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Date Posted: 07:02:36pm 01/09/06 Mon,
Author: JoeStag
Subject: Re: Fan support
In reply to: DOC 's message, "Re: Fan support" on 06:41:16pm 01/09/06 Mon,

As an update on the 6th Man, the Athletic Consultants Report had made recommendations on how many areas of Athletics should run including Lyons-Lademan 6th Man and things like that. Their recommendations are supposedly being incorporated into the University Stategic Plan which has not been announced yet. It has been a slow progress, from my perspective. The 6th man is just running with left over funds thats helping support Doc's Roundtables, Post Game receptions, and a season kickoff Welcome Back BBQ..... until there is a new direction. Hopefully it will be soon as we will run out of funds at the end of this year.

IMO, Fr. von Arx has spent his first year observing and listening and learning about Fairfield. He is spending the 2nd year planing and stategizing, even things like what to do with Alumni Hall. My feeling, is that in the 3rd year, a big time change will start to be instituted...... or maybe I am hoping that is what will happen.

I think the process and change has been painfully slower than expected, especially after the excitement of the inaugeration of Fr. von Arx. But if he is planning and stategizing for how Fairfield needs to change over the next 20 years, then hopefully its exciting plans and worth the wait.

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[> [> [> Gene Doris should be evaluated... He is dropping the ball -- Antman, 07:35:09pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

JoeStag you are doing a fine job. It was a pleasure to finally meet you Saturday. If anyone else wants to meet me, you know where to find me at the home games.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Gene Doris should be evaluated... He is dropping the ball -- FU73, 10:16:34pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

Drop football, drop hockey, drop AH and drop the 6th Man Club. No one should be surprised at the way the AD works but maybe some day their vision and plan will be revealed?

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[> [> [> [> Re: Gene Doris should be evaluated... He is dropping the ball -- DitchMitch, 10:32:09pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

Let's not forget he also ADDED football, only to drop it 6 years later?

It's been pointed out how athletic departments at schools like Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart are taking significant steps forward. At the very best, Fairfield is stuck in neutral.

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[> [> [> [> The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- JoeStag, 07:12:32am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]

I have to disagree with a lot of the statements above.

- Athletics or Gene Doris did not drop Football or Hockey, it was a University decision, and IMO done hastily, and not communcated well. Doris did not want to drop football. First, he did not have the power to that, and secondly he had no motivations to do that.... He is the one who brought Football to Fairfield. Doris was the Messenger on this.... don't kill the messenger.

- Doris is a full supporter of the 6th Man Club. He did not drop it, it is not dropped. It executes still with a lot of events like any Alumni hoop club in the MAAC. Doris is the one who supported the start of the 6th Man after about 15 years of no fan club. The Members of the Stag 6th Man were removed after their 2 year committment, because of a demand by one strong Alumni that decided that the Stag 6th Man leadership committee needed to be changed. This person was not a member of the 6th Man, and he also recommended other Alumni to not join or monitarily support the Club. Since that time this individual or the university, neither recommended any replacements, nor has any Alumni stepped up to run a Booster club. Thats why I continue to keep th the 6th man functioning. Again, Gene Doris was the Messenger on this.... don't kill the messenger.

- This is not my "opinion" on the 6th man. These are facts as I sat in on these meetings and happenings..... I know what happened. Doris has been a full supporter of the Stag 6th man and still is, and assoc AD Pat Murphy has put in a lot of his time over and above his normal duties to help the 6th Man function and run a lot of events. The University has never fully suppoted the Stag 6th man. Anybody who wants to know more or take a leadership role in the Stag 6th man should contact me at bob_kulikowski@vwr.com

An Athletic department can only be as good as University support. Surely Athletics can do a lot better, and need to do better. But, the University is what drives a lot of decisions.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- FU73, 07:32:47am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]

I think it is frustration on the part of alumni and fans that Fairfield Athletics seems to be stuck and not moving forward while other schools are. It was hard to see football and hockey dropped, Homecoming almost non-existent, the lack of student spirit and AHY not living up to it's potential (712 at last night's women's game). If you say that Gene Doris is not the problem and only the messenger then I agree with you ..."don't kill the messenger". Sorry Gene.

Hopefully, Fr. von Arx will see the importance of Athletics and how it relates to the University, i's alumni and it's reputation.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- JoeStag, 07:49:38am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]

Agree we are not move forward as fast as we would like, or in some areas we are not moving forward at all.... sometimes even backwards. Direction is needed and plan. But an athletic plan cannot be created without a solid and approved University plan.

But I do know that the consultants report is supposed to be incorporated into the University Strategic plan. I know we want some change now, but I get the feeling that Fr. von Arx is working on that...... I hope.

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[> [> [> [> [> The 2 Major Mistakes -- DitchMitch, 08:36:49am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]

Here are, in my mind, the 2 major mistakes made in the Athletic Department in the last 10 years:

1) Starting a Football program: Whoever decided to axe football just 6 years after the program was started is saying the football program should not have been started in the first place. Sure, any student or alum is going to want a football team. But considering how much almost every school with a football team loses, why start one after so many years without a program? I would love to know what Fairfield thought it would gain with football, considering how much it knew the investment would be.
Unfortunately, the money that went to the football program likely could have been used to improve other facets of the athletic department. Perhaps ice hockey could have survived, for example.

2) AHY: The decision to have Fairfield's basketball teams playing at Harbor Yards is proving a major mistake. It's a beautiful arena, but it is not a fit for Fairfield basketball, outside of perhaps a game or two a year. It certainly has not helped recruiting-wise (for either the men or women), the average attendance of I'm guessing about 2500 - 3000 makes the arena cavernous and a poor home court advantage, and most important, the students are not there. The fact that the women would play a stand-alone game there makes me cringe.

I understand why the University has to try and put a positive spin on it, but if you are a Fairfield basketball fan, I'm not sure how you could make a case for AHY coming out as anything more than a net loss for Fairfield basketball.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- Running Man, 09:52:59am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]

I know that there is a tendency among some posters to blame Doris for the condition of the athletic program at F.U., but the blame is misplaced. Every significant decision flows from the head honcho who uses those around him in an advisory capacity. Several years ago I talked with Doris about the state of Cross Country in particular and Fairfield sports in general and he described the situation as I have above. I believe that he would do more if he weren't hamstrung by the university.

Unfortunately Catholic universities live by the principle that the president calls the shots and if you don't like it, then that is your problem. I remember back in the 70s that F.U. conducted a survey among its alumni asking whether the respondents would prefer that the institution remain with a student body all male or become coed. The published results indicated that the alumni decided overwhelmingly that it should remain all male. The next year the school was coed. Obviously the university did not care one iota what the alumni thought. The president and the Board of Trustees ignored the survey results and did what they had intended doing. So it is the president whom we should praise or blame. Expect decisions on important aspects of university life, like athletics,to come from the president's office.

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