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Date Posted: 12:42:18pm 11/22/05 Tue,
Author: RayS
Subject: Re: Comments on the comments
In reply to: JoeStag 's message, "Re: Comments on the comments" on 11:51:33am 11/22/05 Tue,

The problem is either the players we have recruited were overrated or they have not improved over the years they have played at FU. When Todd came I read about what a great guard he would be for us now in his senior year he is outplayed by a freshman! He and Bell should be our leaders out there.

There is something seriosly wrong when your seniors are not stepping up and providing leadershipby example. The only player to do so in the last 5-6 years was RT and he would not have been given the opportunity if DG hadn't been hurt.

Lack of size is a convenient excuse for the St. Joe's loss but does not account for the loss to St. Francis. If you look at Todd's stats fromboth games they are disturingly similar. one would expect him to have amuch better game against the lower level of competition from an NEC team.

My point is that either our expectations of the young man's abilities were set too high or he has not progressed from his freshman year. If the latter is the case then in 3 years we may be saying the same thing about Jon Han. I certainly don't blame the players for this but in fairness to them if their ability levelhas been overhyped we should not be asking them to compete against the St. Joe's of the world. As someone else pointed out lets play Sacred Heart & teams at that level where at least the games are entertaining & competitive.

I shudder to think at what will happen against Iowa. Again I'm not blaming the players, maybe we need more realistic scheduling.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Comments on the comments -- Running Man, 02:48:26pm 11/22/05 Tue, [1]

Ray, I agree with much of what you have written. This business of scrutinizing a player's H.S. stats and assuming that he will make a contribution on that basis is sheer folly. Reserve judgement until you have seen him play. Disallusionment and disappointment are too often the byproducts of not doing this. Many will disagree with me, but in my opinion TOT is at best an average recruiter. It seems that he has had great difficulty recruiting shooters unlike some of our MAAC brethren who always seem to have a couple of guys who are deadly from the perimeter. From what I see it will take an act of God to transform our guys into any kind of consistent outside threats. We have been waiting on some of our guys for two or three years to develop, but they are the same players now that they were when they arrived (in some cases less proficient). And don't get me started on the frontcourt.

In assessing our current crop of players I would say that most are average MAAC guys and are playing at the level where they belong. Some should actually be at a lower level than the MAAC. Sorry to be blunt, but this is the reality of the situation.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Comments on the comments -- RayS, 05:23:17pm 11/22/05 Tue, [1]

Hey RM good to "talk" to you again. My question is if TOT is only an average recruiter, and as some have said only an average "x's&o's" guy, what is the argument for keeping him around for the next 5-8 years?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Comments on the comments -- Running Man, 09:34:21pm 11/22/05 Tue, [1]

Ray,
Have you run that marathon yet?

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[> [> [> [> Re: Comments on the comments -- Menzies, 04:05:11pm 11/22/05 Tue, [1]

I watched a bit of Iowa-Kentucky last night. The thought going through my head was that Iowa will just continue to get offensive rebounds until they score.....every single possession!!!!!!!

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