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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- JoeStag, 04:57:52pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
Good analysis on +/- factors.
4 years ago, fans were able to email questions to the Selection Committee Chairman as part of an online chat session. I asked why Fairfield was not selected, even though they had a winning record against 2-3 teams from the Ivy that were selected. Her response was something like. "there were other factors besides head to head competition that went into the decision, but Fairfield was in consideration"
The MAAC is a decent Soccer league..... both Loyola and Marist have good reputations. Women's hoops got an At-large bid a few years ago, and MAAC Women's hoops is not as strong as MAAC Men's Soccer.
So there is hope.
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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- Stagophile, 05:09:31pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
This Website essentially provides SOS for soccer...
http://www.soccerratings.com/
MAAC is ranked 22nd out of 23 D1 leagues.
Fairfield is ranked 86th
NC State is ranked 18th
Dartmouth is ranked 39th
Yale is ranked 50th
Lafayette is ranked 62th
FDU is ranked 67th
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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- RiderRaver, 05:01:21pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
The MAAC only recently received an auto bid to the NCAAs when they expanded the tourney field. The years when Rider won back to back titles in the late 90s and were nationally ranked, they had to play a Play-In Game.
MAAC champ always receives a terrible seeding in the Tourney, therefore, FF stands no chance at an at-large.
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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- foxfan, 06:51:29pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
Rider -- your logic is a little flawed in the play-in argument. The play-in's are decided prior to the season -- not like the MBB 64-65 game which is based on the worst 2 teams that get in as an auto bid... so when rider won back-to-back -- regardless of how good they were -- if they won the MAAC auto bid they HAD to be in the play-in by NCAA's rules...
Not to mention that the MAAC has had better success in the last years... i don;t know if it means fairfield is in - but they are 20th in the nation with some good wins, a great win streak that was snapped in the title game.
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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- RiderRaver, 06:59:55pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
I guess my post wasn't clear enough...I said the same you you did. My point was that the MAAC did not receive an auto bid prior to the NCAA expanding the tournament field and since the auto bid, the seeds for the tournament champ have been horrible.
It is obvious that MAAC Soccer gets no respect on a national level. There is no way the Stags get an auto bid for the season they had. It was a nice season but you had to beat Marist on your home field to get to post-season.
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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- foxfan, 07:12:21pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
first off -- FOX is from marist not the Stags... and you said that even when rider was ranked they had to play in the play-in game -- which doesnt exist now and cant be a comparision... i think the Stags are 50-50 -- depending on if the other leagues had big upsets... if all the big league favorites won -- then fairfield can get in -- if there was a rash of upsets in the big leagues their chances drop quickly.
also you have to remember marist took uconn to OT last uyear -- which the committee will remember...
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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- RiderRaver, 07:16:00pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
I don't know what you don't understand...the PIG was a requirement for the MAAC in the late 90s. Had nothing to do with Rider's team....it just shows you that the MAAC is not regarded as a good soccer league.
The Stags stand NO CHANCE of an at-large soccer bid, they are not even on the bubble. They played a weak schedule have little to no quality wins and lost the championship game on their home field. No chance whatsoever.
Congrats to Marist, they'll be playing a powerhouse in the first round and will lose by 3-4 goals.
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Re: What about an At-Large Bid ????? -- Running Man, 07:19:47pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
I was under the impression that there were only 32 teams in the NCAA field. Can someone verify this or provide an update on the size of the field allowed now. If only thirty-two teams, then it will be difficult for us to make the tourney, despite our #20 national ranking.
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There are 32 teams in tournament. -- RiderRaver, 07:32:29pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
The NCAA site has FF ranked 24th, after today's home loss to Marist, FF is no longer ranked in the Top 25. FF stands no chance of an at-large berth.
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Re: There are 32 teams in tournament. -- Bob, 09:56:55pm 11/13/05 Sun, [1]
That is NOT correct. There are 48 teams in tourney
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Shooter has it correct. -- RiderRaver, 05:36:41am 11/14/05 Mon, [1]
Forgot about the first round byes.
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Re: Shooter has it correct. -- Stagophile, 09:25:10am 11/14/05 Mon, [1]
Yes, he does have it correct! "There's no need for anybody to be a jerk about it..."
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