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Subject: ? Hating Myself


Author:
steffy
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Date Posted: 05:19:31 08/14/03 Thu

I have never been diagnosed with depression or anything like it. i don't know anything about depression, really. All I know is that ever since I was in an abusive relationship, I have hated myself ever since. Not just my outside, but everything about me. I struggle with anorexia everyday because I dont' deserve to eat. Food is better spent on something or someone, but I am a waste of time. I trust few people, I try to shy away from getting close to people because I don't want to get hurt, because I don't want to disapoint them or waste thier time. because I don't deserve to have them in my life. Most of the guys I try to talk to are married, because married guys are safer than single guys. I have one man in my life who' creeps past my barriers without me realizing it. And I know that everntually he will leave because he makes me happy and I don't deserve happiness. He will stop wanting me because I'm a horrible person, and am not worthy of his love, no matter how much I want to beleive it's not true. I want to beleive there is good in me, that I can and deserve to eb happy and loved, but I can't. it's like I'm brainwashed. I don't understand why i feel all these things, I just know I do..it's not a thought to me, it's fact. How do I change and heal what I don't understand?
Subject: :~( depression


Author:
keylai
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Date Posted: 22:46:10 07/17/03 Thu

hi my name is keylai. i think i am depressed because i always feel really bad about myself. the only reason i have friends is because i have known people so long taht it would be rude to outcast me. a guy who i liked alot liked me to, until he saw me. then he had alot of negative comments to tell me.i am so ugly.im 5'11 inches and for a girl taths huge i almost weigh 190 lbs..i hate myself so much. i feel like i am being burried deeper and deeper into a hole of bad thoughts and the want for it all to end.sometimes i pray to god that he will just take me because i feel like i am a screw up and i wont ever do anything good in life.i think i need to go to counseling. the problem is my mother is a counselor and if i try to tell her how i she will just say i am a normal teen. then that it turn makes me feel even more insignificant.i feel like she doesnt listen to me at all because she sees other kids who are depressed and thinks that how i feel is nothing in comparison to them.ijust dont know where to turn now. i thought i could tell my mom and she would et me help but taht failed.i dotn want to tell any of my "frinds" because i dont want to be any different then i am already.
[> Subject: Re: depression


Author:
sunny
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Date Posted: 07:18:24 08/03/03 Sun

Hi! I know exactly how you feel. It's like a feeling of isolation and fear and you feel like you're at the bottom of a bottomless pit, if that's even possible. But the thing is you can overcome depression. I did. I have to be honest and say that my brief meeting with depression wasn't that severe, but the feeling of isolation was still there and still overwhelming. The first step to recovery is to say that you want to recover. You have to say that to yourself over and over again. And the second step is to say to yourself if you don't like the way you are now, change it. Just take one day at a time.
Subject: Invitation to Join My FREE Mental Wellness Newsletter


Author:
Stephen Gilman MD
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Date Posted: 21:44:35 07/29/03 Tue

Hi,

I'm Stephen Gilman, M.D., Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at NYU School of Medicine.

I want to extend an invitation to all forum members to subscribe to my FREE bi-monthly Mental Wellness and Peak Performance Newsletter.

I'll send you articles about depression, anxiety, OCD, substance abuse, and more.

Sign-Up by visiting my site http://www.drgilman.com

Or send me an email to: drgilman@getresponse.com
Subject: ? please help


Author:
dawn
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Date Posted: 20:55:47 07/25/03 Fri

my boyfriend is in jail and the dr./nurse had put him on effexor(sp) and he had the shakes and extreme mood swings when he dont' take it. Two days ago they stuck him on depakote which is a anti-convoltion med. now he is haveing even worse shakes,his vision is blurred,dizziness,nausea and headaches. They also have him on some kind of anti-depressent which is recommend NOT to take with the depakote he had tryed to stop the effexor but he went through some serious withdrawls which caused him to be soooooooo depressed he wouldn't speak and when he did you would think he was high as a kite and so pised at you. would someone please email me with the info on the depakote and if he should or should not be taking it. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Subject: :~( MARIJUANA & DEPRESSION: What comes first??


Author:
JJ
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Date Posted: 10:37:53 06/29/03 Sun

So everybody's writing to say quit the pot - that's all well & good . . . I think most of us are aware of that. But the question is how? It really is a double-edged sword. You smoke because you're depressed, and you're depressed because you smoke. Whichever came first doesn't matter but they clearly go hand-in-hand. Been doing it for about 10 years (more heavily as the years go by) and it's obviously pure escapism, but not having come across anything better on offer . . . it's just so easy to say, rather than do . . .
Subject: :~( I have no friends...litteraly


Author:
Lindsay
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Date Posted: 21:44:59 06/20/03 Fri

Hi, I don't have a problem with pot and im not really ever in any trouble in sdchool or anything...of course that is just the proble. I am never in school. I broke my foot very badly and i had two major surgeries. After the first one i wasnt that bad...i had 2 friends come over and they talked to me for awhile. But then after about a week out of school, it happened. They all forgot. THese are people that had previously called me everyday, sometimes twice a day. They all stopped caring. I am now alone, i never sleep, im not hungry(i have lost 30 pounds, and i really couldnt have afforded to lose 10.)i cry constantly and can never seem to understand what people are saying. I havnt walked in five months. I feel as though i will never walk again. I know it is not true but i cant get it out of my head...there is this hallow pain in my chest that feels as though it is scoopin out my heart, yet the pain is heavy. I really dont want to feel this way and i never used to be this way...seriously, i was the cheerleader, straight A student with tons of friends, but now i have none. When i ask people for help when i am carrying things when i do go to school (not for 62 days this year) they refuse...peopl tell me that they hate me after not talking to me for five months and i dont understand their horriffic cruelty...could someone please talk to me i need a friend...
:( lindsay :(
Subject: THANKS FOR GETTIN ME THINKIN


Author:
JAMES RICHARDSON
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Date Posted: 06:21:01 06/09/03 Mon

DAM U HIT THAT NAIL ON THE HEAD. IM A HEAVY POT SMOKER AND DEPRESSED AS ALL HELL. THANKS FOR WRITING THAT,AND GETTING ME THINKIN THAT POT COULD BE THE PROBLEM. I NEVER THOUGHT IT COULD BE POT BUT I NEED TO TRY SOMETHING. THANK YOU U REALLY HELPED.E-MAIL ME ANY TIME.
Subject: >:-( help me


Author:
mark
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Date Posted: 16:08:50 06/02/03 Mon

help me kick the marijuanna 513-315-7777 513-791-1515
[> Subject: Re: help me please


Author:
matt
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Date Posted: 19:46:43 06/06/03 Fri

i need help dealing with the vomiting if any one can help please please e-mail me at sxemttfrmoc@aol.com
Subject: B-) Re: maijuanna does not cause depression it helps from being depressed!!


Author:
marryjane former pot smoker
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Date Posted: 11:54:26 05/30/03 Fri

>i hav smoked pot for 4 years now and it dosen't make
>me depressed the only time i am depressed is when i am
>out of pot so therefore pot dosen't make you depressed.
i have smoked it for 6 years and its what keeps me from feeling depressed!!everyone should at least smoke once a day!!
[> Subject: Re: maijuanna does not cause depression it helps from being depressed!!


Author:
Chad
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Date Posted: 23:07:51 06/01/03 Sun

>>i hav smoked pot for 4 years now and it dosen't make
>>me depressed the only time i am depressed is when i am
>>out of pot so therefore pot dosen't make you
>depressed.
>i have smoked it for 6 years and its what keeps me
>from feeling depressed!!everyone should at least smoke
>once a day!!

I have read all the replies to your question. I was a pot smoker for over 20 years. Smoked daily when I was young and less as I got older because I had more responsibilities in life. Now I’m a law enforcement officer and I still have life long friends that smoke pot daily. I still get high on rare occasions…when it won’t interfere with my work or my home life. When it comes to pot, I have seen it all. It effects us all differently. Because it caused one person to be depressed and another to contemplate suicide…it doesn’t mean it will affect you the same way. I know several people that smoke because of depression. It my rob them of their motivation and turn them into couch potatoes, but they say its better than the side effects of the antidepressants. The truth is that we all have problems in life, don’t blame your problems on the weed. Not to many advocates to smoking every day in the replies…must all be to stoned to log.
Subject: (!) IT DROPS YOUR SEXUALITY, WHY DO IT?


Author:
NIKKI :*
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Date Posted: 19:46:46 05/29/03 Thu

are you sure you really wanna risk all of your life ,taking the brain cells outty your brain?
well someone i really like smokes pot and im like "i like you hecka and you sexuallity (testasterone) will lower so much why you really wanna do that?",he's like "cuz it makes me feel better". WHATEVER$#^:(
Subject: RE:


Author:
A
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Date Posted: 20:54:11 05/28/03 Wed

Hi. I thought I could help you a little bit. I'm in the same situation as you (I smoke i guess about an eight a day to my head). I found this article linking marijuana and depression...but I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna try to get prescribed an anti-depressant. Good Luck...
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/Healthology/HS_marijuana_depression021122.html
Subject: deperession and dope


Author:
sarah
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Date Posted: 11:36:22 05/24/03 Sat

I have been smoking pot now on and off for nearly 8 years i started very young and through my teenage years smoked nearly every day, now in my 20's i have noticed myself smoking it even more, i have recentl begun a relationship with someone who doesn't smoke pot and i find when i do i seem to ditance myself form him and get enormous paranoia which he finds very hard to understand and then i get depressed and start beating myself up over the smallest things, i recentl came back from a visit to poland and found that i didnt smoke anything while i was away and felt wonderful then i came bcak to england and saw friends who smoke it and i fell back into the same routine, i am at presemt trying to get my life together and to a teaching course and start to drive but it is very hard not to smoke dope when i have people round as i really want to quit as i just seem to get down to often and i have so much good stuff in my life i dont want to screw it up, also my new partner has gone travelling abroad and i just seem to be getting in with people who smoke dope especially when hey come to see me and i dont know waht to do, have made one decision though, i dont think i am going to let people smoke dope in the house when they come round because it is just to hard for me.
Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
former king dope
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Date Posted: 20:34:15 05/23/03 Fri

Yeah, whoever you are, you're a moron. And one other thing, learn to type idiot.
Subject: (!) Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
lovpotion
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Date Posted: 23:40:23 05/20/03 Tue

pot relieves severe suicidal pain. depression is caused by liars when interacting with judgementaless girl scouts without a clue as to the evil of selfishness, criticism, financial thieves, and narrow minded biggets. Personally, I'm giving up. Too tired defending and unable to cope with the rat race. Got ripped off. Hired and attorney. got ripped off. Hired another, and he informes me the agency arbitrating a major mess works for the the securities industry. From solid citizen to bag lady. How many times have you seen the crow fly? Credit card fraud, computer fraud, jealous ex's wives filing bogus lawsuits. No wonder I'm not insane.
Ever been molested? Ever been beaten up and not believed when reporting it to the cops? Ever have a lover light himself on fire? Or another blow his brains?
Why is pot used to relieve pain of cancer patients?
because it works?
where's the cereal line, because soon there won't bee left even a tooth. What did I do to anyone? Not get too close and take too much shit. Nun said hate people, any wonder?
What causes depression? Look for the answer at those in worship. ...ba..baba BA....look up, two lines above.
Subject: maijuanna


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 08:58:06 05/13/03 Tue

Hello!!! have you ever heard of someone smoking pot and beating their wife, robbing a bank, murdering someone...NO!
How about alcohol!! If the government were so concerned about your health it would pull it off the shelves in an instant. Same goes for cigarettes. Too much tax revenues to be had. The government is making token gestures to quell the public by taking such a harsh stand on pot. Go after the heroin and crack heads. Leave the pot smokers alone.Should someone who posesses pot do hard time...NO!
Alcohol does more harm...kills the liver...brings out aggressive behavior in some.Get a freaking life!!!!!!!
Subject: depression


Author:
Leeann
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Date Posted: 07:44:13 05/13/03 Tue

cense i have been diagnosed with depression i have thought about trying any kinda drug you can think of and i have tried killing myself cause i figured if i wasn't here then it would be the easy way out.my friends talk me out of it every time i just wanted you to know it's not worth you hurting yourself.your put here for a reason.
Subject: smoking pot


Author:
matty
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Date Posted: 11:25:10 05/11/03 Sun

i ma 21 and i live here in vancouver bc. as most if not all know the vancity is the best for the greatest herb in the world. i have graduated high school and i am in college. i work right in down town van as a brick layer/builder for i build the very high rise buildings you see here.i have been through tough spots in my life but hey who hasnt. i was in alot of trouble in my school years gangs,drugs,beatings. i lost friends along the way and that is life, all i been through has made me stronger and wiser. i smoke weed everyday all day, i am a total fry head but i got my shit together see. i work all day most days 10 hour days so i am not lazy. i have my own place and i am not depressed about anything. who the hell ever said weed will make you depressed, sure i want it when i dont have it, but i want ice cream too when i dont have it. get real if you want yourself to become an addict or let yourself develop a problem then it is your fault. think about it life can only work if priorities and order is achieved. hell i have a blast, ripped all the time, but i am succesfull and i am building the world. i have done every drug, cocaine,dust,crack,shrooms,acid,jib,meth, just a few, and i am not addicted to one of them. sure i had my splurging time but i am not in any trouble. you have to have a good time but as always too much of a good thing is bad. relax and get your shit together find out what is important in life and do it. if you want to stop smoking weed or doing harder drugs for your self benefit, get a hobby and hell if you dont have a job get a job.hobbies are great for passing time and keeping your mind occupied. trust me get a hobby and make it one you enjoy you never know what can come out of it, you maybe building skyscrapers in one of the countries largest cities.
Subject: *!* Neglected


Author:
Melanie
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Date Posted: 11:42:42 05/07/03 Wed

I hate my self.. i am smart do good in school very extra curricular but i hate my self.

1.all my friends think i am a bitch and never shut up
2. I told my father how i am taking algebra (a 9th grade class) a year early. and he doesn't care
3. I told my father how i might be able to join jazz band a year early and he doesnt care.
4. my grades have slipped.
5. i cry for no reason.
6. my sister is a spoiled brat and she gets her way.. she trys to bake my trumpet and does any one care no. she jumps on me and i get in trouble for hitting her.. she messes up my room and i get in trouble for it being messey
help plz
Subject: *!* Neglected


Author:
Melanie
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Date Posted: 11:41:21 05/07/03 Wed

I hate my self.. i am smart do good in school very extra curricular but i hate my self.

1.all my friends think i am a bitch and never shut up
2. I told my father how i am taking algebra (a 9th grade class) a year early. and he doesn't care
3. I told my father how i might be able to join jazz band a year early and he doesnt care.
4. my grades have slipped.
5. i cry for no reason.
help plz
Subject: >;-) Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Roshi
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Date Posted: 13:00:36 05/06/03 Tue

>>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>>Have a Nice Day,
>>Sincerely,
>>roy
>
>To roy
This is probably only true if you smoke more than
>occasionally. For example if you smoke 3 or 4 joints
>a day your over indulging. 1 joint a day won't hurt maAaAaAannnnnnn you no what i rekon that the other guy is right. When your done feeling stoned you feel perfectly normal. For all them minors who are just gettn into it and are kinda young it may effect there development me ima minor but im well advanced and im only started this can affekt minors hoo cant handle the shit,,, they will turned out with shit for brains or may just be in constant fatigued state but FUCK ,,,,,them hoo can handle it earn there right to smoke it!! i say to the guy who was with me for opinions go you, i hope you have every success since you know how to have a good time, as for all them other stuck up wieners you need to have a break that kit kat break should be taken over and replaced with marijuanna have a break have some marijuanna :-)

all dem ppl who agree wif me may contakt me NO H8ERS !!
Subject: deppression since the weed


Author:
amanda
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Date Posted: 14:35:13 05/01/03 Thu

I've been smokein weed for about ten years and i've had deppression for eight years. when i look back on my life before smokein weed, i was so full of energy, outgoing and very strong minded i suppose you could say i had everything going for me. All that part of my life seems a very distant memory. enxiety, panic, self harm, feeling so low i could die, not wanting to be around people especially straight people cos straight people just are'nt on the same level,(sad in it?)through depression and smokein one joint after another i built up a wall all around me. I've put the blame on everything that has gone wrong in my life and have only just realised that the weed is mostly to blame. Monday i'm going to have another go at givin up and for real this time. everyone who no's me lough at me when i tell them i'm givin it up, they say i would'nt be amanda iff i gave it up. i'm so bored of being screwed up in my head, i just want to be normal again. to who ever said cannabis was not addictive BULLSHIT!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
me
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Date Posted: 13:59:44 05/01/03 Thu

>How do you feel after it wears off? Kinda shitty,
>right?

u feel tired...u dont feel shitty...so basically stonerz smoke eat smoke eat smoke eat then go 2 bed wen they are real tired after it wearz off so yah
Subject: *!* Panic attacks constantly!


Author:
Tyler DeStefano
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Date Posted: 18:11:41 04/29/03 Tue

I need help... I am losing my sanity cause I cant keep a grip on reality. Why am I walking along. (Straight) When suddenly I feel as if I am dreaming.. I'm not in the world! I start to panic then I fight it and it gets worse! Suddenly I cant breath. I have pains in my chest and I am scared. I ask myself questions like "why am i on this earth?" or "how can my body worked together to produce a living person with a soul?" or "Am I really here?!?" Please help me before I cant take the anxiety and parania! I am only 14 years old!
Subject: ? CAN YOU USE POT AND TAKE EFFEXOR SAFELY???


Author:
m.j. beam
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Date Posted: 15:49:00 04/26/03 Sat

I now take effexor as I thought I was using too much pot.( I have depression so now I take Effexor.)
Can ANYONE tell me what to expect if I smoke & CONTINUE TO TAKE EFFEXOR??? I also need to know what side effects I should expect IF I decide to stop taking effexor? I hate being on scripts!!
Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
VITA
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Date Posted: 09:25:07 04/24/03 Thu

>>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>>Have a Nice Day,
>>Sincerely,
>>roy
>WHAT GIVES DEPRESSION IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO PERSECUTE
>INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO LIVES POSITIVE
>AND HAPPY LIVES. GET OFF THE BULLSHIT AND GET FUCKIN
>REAL
I AM WITH THE SECOND PERSON! I AM WHAT THEY CALL A "FUNCIONAL POTHEAD" AND I AM NOT A DEPRESSED PERSON. I AM ALWAYS HAPPY!! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: Potheads on this board sound like losers


Author:
Julie
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Date Posted: 20:24:40 04/19/03 Sat

I've read all the messages on this board and the ones that are the stupidest are from the potheads!!!

I'm pothead and now I know I have to quit!!!
Subject: re: marijuana & depression. What comes first?


Author:
Andrew Boase
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Date Posted: 12:40:34 04/19/03 Sat

I know how you feel. I smoke every day and have done for the past 6 years or so. it has infiltrated every single part of my life and I am only now realizing that pot is the reason for most of my problems. Money problems, social problems and of course depression. Pot is a drug like any other drug. It is just as addictive too. With me it was easier to justify my habit because I would just tell myself it's harmless I can't get hooked. It's a great misconception that pot is the less addictive and harmful drug out there. I've donr almost every drug I could get my hands on, so I know this is not true. A drug is a drug, period. Depression goes hand in hand with drug addiction. You are not in control of your own thoughts and actions once you've become addicted, that alone is depressing. My words of wisdom are as follows: You wrote your problems down on this web page. This means you've identified that you have a problem. You are where I am right now. Talk to people about it. Don't bottle up your feelings about the subject. Remember, Pot is one of the easier drugs to quit. I know because I've quit many drug habits and tried to quit pot a few times. Change your lifestyle, it's the best way.
Subject: The best site on the web


Author:
Sarah
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Date Posted: 23:18:53 04/17/03 Thu

This site changed my life - the sections on Depression and Abuse are great -

www.thisisawar.com
Subject: pot


Author:
randy
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Date Posted: 13:17:40 04/15/03 Tue

hello every1 when i was young i smoked pot i thought that it really made me feel good but later in life i started 2 get panic attacks anxiety attacks and what it all come down 2 was smoking pot when i was young 4 several years so wake up people "HELLO" when ur depressed and down think about what u had and have done with ur life on the emotional and mental level 4 me it was pot peace"c'ya
Subject: pot


Author:
randy
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Date Posted: 13:16:13 04/15/03 Tue

hello every1 when i was young i smoked pot i thought that it really made me feel good but later in life i started 2 get panic attacks anxiety attacks and what it all come down 2 was smoking pot when i was young 4 several years so wake up people "HELLO" when ur depressed and down think about what u had and have done with ur life on the emotional and mental level 4 me it was pot peace"c'ya
Subject: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
roy
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Date Posted: 13:13:45 11/16/01 Fri

Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your brain. HELLO!!!
It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
Have a Nice Day,
Sincerely,
roy
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Aggro
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Date Posted: 11:20:32 12/02/01 Sun

Does the same thing happen with alcohol? Because every so often, after not drinking for at least a couple of months, I'll start drinking again and feel great, like I'm on top of the world and I can do anything; that feeling will last maybe a couple of weeks tops, then the mood starts to slide and I start feeling tired & about that time I stop enjoying the taste of the booze as much so, for those reasons, I start drinking less and less and usually it ends with me quitting voluntarily after maybe a month because I get to the point, which I'm at right now, where I can hardly stand the taste of it any longer and then I find that it's only making me feel sluggish and sick instead of happy, which of course was the original intended purpose, so then I quit again & I go a couple more months without drinking then towards the end of that I get real depressed/angry all over again, to the point where either I feel like just beating the crap out of somebody or I'm just wishing I'd die tomorrow so I won't have to deal with this stupid world anymore, so then I decide that's nowhere & so I drink again, feel great again...and the cycle just continues on & on like that(I've only been on that particular cycle since about June this year; I used to go longer periods of time without the booze, but I guess life's just getting harder and harder for me as I get older and wiser, and I know the "high" from alcohol, like other drugs, doesn't last, yet I feel I've got no choice but to keep the cycle going because otherwise I fear I might just go insane and not care anymore and I'm afraid what might happen to me karmic-wise if I go down that route...the only problem is the sobriety periods seem to be getting shorter and shorter, and so I fear I can forsee a time when I can't go a day without it, yet I won't be getting the "high" anymore because I'll be drinking it too often, and the thought of that really sucks, if I do say so.

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy
[> [> Subject: Nevermind, I had to quit anyway(I think I might have liver disease).


Author:
Aggro
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Date Posted: 11:03:50 12/27/01 Thu

>Does the same thing happen with alcohol? Because
>every so often, after not drinking for at least a
>couple of months, I'll start drinking again and feel
>great, like I'm on top of the world and I can do
>anything; that feeling will last maybe a couple of
>weeks tops, then the mood starts to slide and I start
>feeling tired & about that time I stop enjoying the
>taste of the booze as much so, for those reasons, I
>start drinking less and less and usually it ends with
>me quitting voluntarily after maybe a month because I
>get to the point, which I'm at right now, where I can
>hardly stand the taste of it any longer and then I
>find that it's only making me feel sluggish and sick
>instead of happy, which of course was the original
>intended purpose, so then I quit again & I go a couple
>more months without drinking then towards the end of
>that I get real depressed/angry all over again, to the
>point where either I feel like just beating the crap
>out of somebody or I'm just wishing I'd die tomorrow
>so I won't have to deal with this stupid world
>anymore, so then I decide that's nowhere & so I drink
>again, feel great again...and the cycle just continues
>on & on like that(I've only been on that particular
>cycle since about June this year; I used to go longer
>periods of time without the booze, but I guess life's
>just getting harder and harder for me as I get older
>and wiser, and I know the "high" from alcohol, like
>other drugs, doesn't last, yet I feel I've got no
>choice but to keep the cycle going because otherwise I
>fear I might just go insane and not care anymore and
>I'm afraid what might happen to me karmic-wise if I go
>down that route...the only problem is the sobriety
>periods seem to be getting shorter and shorter, and so
>I fear I can forsee a time when I can't go a day
>without it, yet I won't be getting the "high" anymore
>because I'll be drinking it too often, and the thought
>of that really sucks, if I do say so.
>
> >Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>>Have a Nice Day,
>>Sincerely,
>>roy
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Nevermind, I had to quit anyway(I think I might have liver disease).


Author:
Dr. High
[Edit]

Date Posted: 12:12:52 01/13/03 Mon

Firs of all neither of them use up the good feeling chemicals (otherwise known as hormones), the active ingredients in them, THC and Ethyl Alcohol, bond with certain receptors in the immune system and trick the immune system into thinking you feel differently ussually in a good way, so you do not have to worry about "Using up the good chemicals in your brain".

>>Does the same thing happen with alcohol? Because
>>every so often, after not drinking for at least a
>>couple of months, I'll start drinking again and feel
>>great, like I'm on top of the world and I can do
>>anything; that feeling will last maybe a couple of
>>weeks tops, then the mood starts to slide and I start
>>feeling tired & about that time I stop enjoying the
>>taste of the booze as much so, for those reasons, I
>>start drinking less and less and usually it ends with
>>me quitting voluntarily after maybe a month because I
>>get to the point, which I'm at right now, where I can
>>hardly stand the taste of it any longer and then I
>>find that it's only making me feel sluggish and sick
>>instead of happy, which of course was the original
>>intended purpose, so then I quit again & I go a couple
>>more months without drinking then towards the end of
>>that I get real depressed/angry all over again, to the
>>point where either I feel like just beating the crap
>>out of somebody or I'm just wishing I'd die tomorrow
>>so I won't have to deal with this stupid world
>>anymore, so then I decide that's nowhere & so I drink
>>again, feel great again...and the cycle just continues
>>on & on like that(I've only been on that particular
>>cycle since about June this year; I used to go longer
>>periods of time without the booze, but I guess life's
>>just getting harder and harder for me as I get older
>>and wiser, and I know the "high" from alcohol, like
>>other drugs, doesn't last, yet I feel I've got no
>>choice but to keep the cycle going because otherwise I
>>fear I might just go insane and not care anymore and
>>I'm afraid what might happen to me karmic-wise if I go
>>down that route...the only problem is the sobriety
>>periods seem to be getting shorter and shorter, and so
>>I fear I can forsee a time when I can't go a day
>>without it, yet I won't be getting the "high" anymore
>>because I'll be drinking it too often, and the thought
>>of that really sucks, if I do say so.
>>
>> >Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression
>because
>>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>>>Have a Nice Day,
>>>Sincerely,
>>>roy
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Mr. Denys
[Edit]

Date Posted: 22:22:48 11/23/02 Sat

Alcohol is a completely different story because marijuanna is an "upper" (anti-depressant), whereas alcohol is a "downer" (depresant). No, marijuanna does not directly cause depression, by the way. (depression can be a bi-product though, like by withdrawal)
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Sara
[Edit]

Date Posted: 10:00:16 01/04/02 Fri

Hello!! yes it is veyr bad for u i don't think you should do it. it can kill you and can hurt you.This drug does not make your life better it makes it bad. if u do, do it then think to yourself why am i doing this it is bad for me unstend of doing it for real just think about what it can and will do to you, and don't fallow your friends they may be nice but if they r doing drugs and then trying to get you to do drugs then they r not real friend!! hello!!
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
POT HEAD
[Edit]

Date Posted: 19:22:19 01/12/02 Sat

SUCK MY DICK YOU FUCKING POT HATING FUCKS!!!!!!!
[> [> Subject: :-) Re: Marijuanna Dosen't cause depression it is just all in you're heads


Author:
hottie
[Edit]

Date Posted: 02:43:48 11/12/02 Tue

i hav smoked pot for 4 years now and it dosen't make me depressed the only time i am depressed is when i am out of pot so therefore pot dosen't make you depressed.
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
former pot smoker
[Edit]

Date Posted: 15:16:39 02/01/03 Sat

> SUCK MY DICK YOU FUCKING POT HATING FUCKS!!!!!!!I'm a wife of a dope smoker and he is on the phone right now talking about killing himself and letting me raise the two baby girls we have. He has been out of dope for two days. Last week he took his stereo to the pawn shop for dope money. Maybe you can talk to him for me and tell him that pot isn't a problem?
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
me
[Edit]

Date Posted: 09:19:14 02/26/03 Wed

> SUCK MY DICK YOU FUCKING POT HATING FUCKS!!!!!!!

You are another good example of why people percieve marijuna smokers as "pot-heads". It is not the marijuana people protest, it is the effects that it has on people, (who act like you do when confronted with the topic of pot). Quit making it difficult for the rest of us!!!
[> [> Subject: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
eminem
[Edit]

Date Posted: 10:29:12 02/26/03 Wed

why are you asking me ask a doctor if it is or not. let him have some while your at it.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Amy
[Edit]

Date Posted: 09:42:38 04/14/03 Mon

I am 15 years old and have been smoking marijuanna for 2 years every day in school and out. before i smoked it i was bubbly and very out going now i suffer with paranoia and i am only happy when im stonned off my face my parents dont know that i still smoke it and are worried that im going mad. my teachers,parents and friends are always saying that im becoming a schizophrenic and it is what i feel like sometimes i have really bad behavoiur problems now and depression is part of my every day life. i know i am young and most people are probably gonna rip it out of me for this e mail but if i wish i never started smoking but now unfortunatly cannot stop it so its just a viscous circle my msg is DONT START in the first place Amy Lee
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
X
[Edit]

Date Posted: 12:41:36 02/28/03 Fri

I love Pot, its brilliant, but it makes me feel depressed after a while and suicidal. We are not 'Pot Hating Fucks', but for certain people these kind of drugs produce bad effects. If you can handle it thats fine and good for you, but from your message it sounds like you can't darling, you sound like you are having withdrawal and need some more pot to chill out. Other than that you must just be a complete cunt.

Either way, I am sure no one here really gives a fuck about a seriously unintelligent moron like you anyway.

Suck my fishy pussy and enjoy you sad fuck. X X X


> SUCK MY DICK YOU FUCKING POT HATING FUCKS!!!!!!!
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
smart cookies
[Edit]

Date Posted: 07:33:02 01/16/02 Wed

uh... HELLO!!!!!
you people obviosly aren't recreational pot users so i'll try to dumb it down for you and the unenlightened. am i to believe that;
1-alcohol is o.k, pot is bad
2-i run a risk of overdosing on pot?
3-smoking pot will turn me into a violent criminal?
4-one day pot smoking will lead to chasing the dragon in the streets of pakistan, sucking dick for opium?

are you fucking idiots for real?

here's an excercise for you; write out what you want to say about the greens, then go back thru what you've written, and exchange the following words, trade "marijuana", or any of it's descriptives to "alcohol", trade "smoking" to "drinking", and change your name to dumbass!
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
lee
[Edit]

Date Posted: 13:27:05 03/06/02 Wed

pot may cause depression,but so does alcohol.yet alcohol is leagal and pot isnt.alcohol is man made,pot comes from nature.who do you trust?and who has right to decide wich is legal,the same politicians and shit that are for the most part drunks,theifs,scandalists,lying scum bags who decide what they want you to know and how to live your life.These same political AND GOVERNMENT ASS HOLES have put us americans in great danger with many mid-east countries.no wonder our country is under attack.if the us government is so wonderfull,why did it take the terorrist attacks to decide that us government needs to get involved in afghanistan.that country has been in term oil for a long time before september 11.why havent we help straighten that out?answer is clear,NO OIL.THE US GOVERNMENT AND HALF-ASS, GREEDY SELF CONCEARNS ARE GONNA GET US ALL KILLED.i know i strayed from the original subject how ever i beleive pot does cuase someone who is already depressed to get more depressed(probably depressed from drinking).P.S. TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT,NEXT TIME YOU WANNA CUASE SHIT IN ANOTHER COUNTRY,PLEASE DONT SAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CONDEM,BUT SAY THE U.S. GOVMENT CONDEMS. A PROUD AMERICAN THAT DOESNT WANT TO BE HATED BECAUSE OF A FEW IDDIOTS.
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
ex-stoner
[Edit]

Date Posted: 10:44:38 03/25/02 Mon

alright, i used to smoke weed on a regular basis for about three years. i noticed that it wasn't affecting my marks in school, or my performance at my place of work.
however, one area of my life that it was affecting was my social skills. i noticed that i had gone from the class clown type of guy, to a withdrawn, shy, turtle who never poked his head up from his shell. i felt like nobody understood me, and i felt very depressed. i also became very paranoid of people (even when i wasn't high). when all of this time i thought that, that little ziplock dime-bag of weed was my only true friend. little did i know that it was the weed that was making me feel like shit.
i quit smoking-up about 3 months ago and my brain is finally starting to return to normal. i feel happy again, and when i laugh, it feels real, not forced, or phoney.
and that's my story
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
sane person
[Edit]

Date Posted: 16:54:49 03/25/02 Mon

Good for you. Please don't do weed. It makes people assholes, and that's not a good thing. Now, are we in agreement? Good, I hope so.


>alright, i used to smoke weed on a regular basis for
>about three years. i noticed that it wasn't affecting
>my marks in school, or my performance at my place of
>work.
>however, one area of my life that it was affecting was
>my social skills. i noticed that i had gone from the
>class clown type of guy, to a withdrawn, shy, turtle
>who never poked his head up from his shell. i felt
>like nobody understood me, and i felt very depressed.
>i also became very paranoid of people (even when i
>wasn't high). when all of this time i thought that,
>that little ziplock dime-bag of weed was my only true
>friend. little did i know that it was the weed that
>was making me feel like shit.
> i quit smoking-up about 3 months ago and my brain is
>finally starting to return to normal. i feel happy
>again, and when i laugh, it feels real, not forced, or
>phoney.
>and that's my story
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
messed_up
[Edit]

Date Posted: 04:09:49 08/22/02 Thu

Yeah, well I allowed my marijuana smoking to ruin my relationship, I developed a paranoia where I placed far too much importance on certain trivial issues, as a result I got angry and did violent things I never wanted to do, it just happened.
Now I have anxiety disorder, cant eat, cant sleep, worry about meaningless crap and contemplate suicide as an escape from all the pain of a life failed at my own stupid hands.

Nothing wrong with pot ? Well, for me there is something very wrong, but for those who wish to smoke, go right ahead,
I am not preaching drug reform, just pointing out what was for me, once I saw it, a compelling reason to stop.

Yes I enjoyed smoking pot, but didnt enjoy spending every dollar I could access on drugs.

Thankyou.
[> [> [> [> Subject: B-) Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Doper
[Edit]

Date Posted: 21:21:03 09/02/02 Mon

Does pot cause depression? Well.... yes and no to answer the question as most are answered. You have to realize that we as humans use various tools or methods to stimulate those "feel-good" chemicals in our brains. Weather it be, cigarettes, whiskey, or weed. However there is a thin line that can be crossed. Putting in a long eight hour day at work and coming home, throwing some steaks on the grill then relaxing to your favorite album and a nice joint is a very cool way to enjoy the use of marijuanna. However the other side of the coin would be the person who has a lot on thier mind and has to spark up a doobie every time reality tires to push it's way back. Because pot as everyone knows is a pretty good cure-all when it comes to problems and worries. However just because you are obsessing over your problems anymore doesn't mean they are gone. This very fact builds a cycle that feeds upon itself to a point where, YES MARIJUANNA CAN BECOME A PROBLEM. Another possibility is that certain people can have addictive personalities. If you think about it people can and DO get addicted to just about any pleasureful act. eg. Drugs, Food, Sex etc. Ever heard of an alcoholic? These people can't do these things in moderation. They have to burn through thier weed just as fast as their lungs can take it in. So I basically feel that pot is just what it is. It can either be abused or enjoyed. But I'll tell you this, it is far more enjoyable in moderation.

~ T

Email any thoughts on this subject I'd like to hear them.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
jaeden
[Edit]

Date Posted: 18:49:56 09/21/02 Sat

only if your stupid. some of us are a bit more adult about it
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: DOES Marijuanna cause Depression???


Author:
Marielle
[Edit]

Date Posted: 22:25:30 11/25/02 Mon

I know what ur saying its all very true but i have a question for you
do you even know what depression is?
if so
what is it?
cause you built up a site can marijuana cause depression but no mentioning why does it cause depression,
cause i've just been through one and still it's hard to be fully happy cause I'm not yet and i love being high so I'd really like to hear about what u have to say!thanks
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
stoney
[Edit]

Date Posted: 08:35:04 11/12/02 Tue

Don't be a psuuy dude!!!! Just b/c you don't have any social skills, doesn't mean that you need to quit smoking herb. Since you've taken some time off, start up again and you'll feel great.
[> [> Subject: :~( Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
cloey
[Edit]

Date Posted: 20:38:41 04/02/02 Tue

true if ur already feeling like shit then smokin pot will make u feel waaaaaaay worse. that`s tha case fer me. last year around this time i wuz feeling reaaaaaaly extra shitty tht`s when i discovered my new best friend : mary jane. i spent way too much tim with her and three months later the docs say i have depression, get put on a whole load of antipdepressants, anti-psychotics (those asssholes) had to go to the hospital and everything... pot didnt cause all this though..it just brought out shit...today i am still smoking pot even though i am still depressed i dunno what`s wrong wit me i think i`m posessed
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
john
[Edit]

Date Posted: 19:40:49 08/15/02 Thu

same thing...
just many more years of smoking
and far fewer understanding the depression.
i go for spells without, but always go back to the smoking.
what the fuck? you like to smoke pot... is that really such a bad thing?


>true if ur already feeling like shit then smokin pot
>will make u feel waaaaaaay worse. that`s tha case fer
>me. last year around this time i wuz feeling
>reaaaaaaly extra shitty tht`s when i discovered my new
>best friend : mary jane. i spent way too much tim with
>her and three months later the docs say i have
>depression, get put on a whole load of
>antipdepressants, anti-psychotics (those asssholes)
>had to go to the hospital and everything... pot didnt
>cause all this though..it just brought out
>shit...today i am still smoking pot even though i am
>still depressed i dunno what`s wrong wit me i think
>i`m posessed
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Lily
[Edit]

Date Posted: 15:46:55 09/06/02 Fri

the government isn't they. The government IS "THE PEOPLE". The government is run by us. Maybe you should take Poly Sci over dumb ass!
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Rich
[Edit]

Date Posted: 00:04:25 10/07/02 Mon

>the government isn't they. The government IS "THE
>PEOPLE". The government is run by us. Maybe you should
>take Poly Sci over dumb ass!

Listen here dumb ass. I'm not the person who originally wrote that remark about the government but, I will say this, If you think you control the government you are dead wrong the government is controlled by 10% of the people that have 90% of its wealth. Therefore what is good for them is good for the country. As long as they continue to make their pockets fatter, they will do what they do. Recently the PA cigarette tax was raise to fill a gap in the budget. That gap was made by the government's or what you like to call "The People's" money for their new raises. Even though they are supposed to make be for the citizens, they raised taxes to make sure they filled their pockets more and make the citizens have less. Also I don't know the exact words but in The Declaration of Independence it states the citizens will not be singled out to pay a tax but I guess that don't apply if you smoke cigarettes.
Also for everyone else, Weed does not cause depression. The user causes themselves to have depression. If you try to hide your problems by smoking a stimulant to escape, the problems continue to build until you are no longer able to take it. That is the cause of your depression. Face your problems head on instead of trying to hide from them and you will not be depressed. Weed is a stimulant just like coffee, soda, alcohol, and all real drugs. The mind is a powerful thing. What you think is what causes you to do things. If you think you can not handle something then you will not be able to handle it mentally. Until you convince yourself that you can then do it your fucked.
Weed is not a drug. Calling weed a drug is like calling a banana a drug. Its a natural plant that grows in dirt and feeds off sunlight and water. It is in no way, shape, or form chemical modified, unlike alcohol, cocaine, acid, heroine, or any prescription drugs. Marijuana is ripped out of thet ground dried and smoke or eaten. It isn't sent to a lab to be modified or left out until it becomes infested with bacteria.
So with that said get high and deal with your problems high, but do not try to hide behind weed when a problem develops. That is the cause of your problems if you think you are depressed from smoking weed. And another thing I smoked weed for years I don't anymore because I am on probation because of what one asshole likes to call, "The People," control your minds and make you think I am a bad guy for getting high when weed has been used by every man ever considered great in American History.(Ex. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein, Benjamin Franklin, and for the religion buffs Jesus Christ)
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Ryan
[Edit]

Date Posted: 16:25:01 11/16/02 Sat

"weed has been used by every man ever
considered great in American History.(Ex. George
Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein,
Benjamin Franklin, and for the religion buffs Jesus
Christ)"

Where did you get this info? I might be able to use it for a speech I am writing for a class right now. And Jesus ... who knows, maybe there is some scripture you could twist around but I know that there isnt solid evidence on that one buddy.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
rachel foley
[Edit]

Date Posted: 11:43:50 02/05/03 Wed

>>the government isn't they. The government IS "THE
>>PEOPLE". The government is run by us. Maybe you should
>>take Poly Sci over dumb ass!
>
>Listen here dumb ass. I'm not the person who
>originally wrote that remark about the government but,
>I will say this, If you think you control the
>government you are dead wrong the government is
>controlled by 10% of the people that have 90% of its
>wealth. Therefore what is good for them is good for
>the country. As long as they continue to make their
>pockets fatter, they will do what they do. Recently
>the PA cigarette tax was raise to fill a gap in the
>budget. That gap was made by the government's or what
>you like to call "The People's" money for their new
>raises. Even though they are supposed to make be for
>the citizens, they raised taxes to make sure they
>filled their pockets more and make the citizens have
>less. Also I don't know the exact words but in The
>Declaration of Independence it states the citizens
>will not be singled out to pay a tax but I guess that
>don't apply if you smoke cigarettes.
> Also for everyone else, Weed does not cause
>depression. The user causes themselves to have
>depression. If you try to hide your problems by
>smoking a stimulant to escape, the problems continue
>to build until you are no longer able to take it.
>That is the cause of your depression. Face your
>problems head on instead of trying to hide from them
>and you will not be depressed. Weed is a stimulant
>just like coffee, soda, alcohol, and all real drugs.
>The mind is a powerful thing. What you think is what
>causes you to do things. If you think you can not
>handle something then you will not be able to handle
>it mentally. Until you convince yourself that you can
>then do it your fucked.
> Weed is not a drug. Calling weed a drug is
>like calling a banana a drug. Its a natural plant
>that grows in dirt and feeds off sunlight and water.
>It is in no way, shape, or form chemical modified,
>unlike alcohol, cocaine, acid, heroine, or any
>prescription drugs. Marijuana is ripped out of thet
>ground dried and smoke or eaten. It isn't sent to a
>lab to be modified or left out until it becomes
>infested with bacteria.
> So with that said get high and deal with your
>problems high, but do not try to hide behind weed when
>a problem develops. That is the cause of your
>problems if you think you are depressed from smoking
>weed. And another thing I smoked weed for years I
>don't anymore because I am on probation because of
>what one asshole likes to call, "The People," control
>your minds and make you think I am a bad guy for
>getting high when weed has been used by every man ever
>considered great in American History.(Ex. George
>Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein,
>Benjamin Franklin, and for the religion buffs Jesus
>Christ)
[> [> Subject: [Info] Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Reminder
[Edit]

Date Posted: 22:21:42 12/05/02 Thu

> pot may cause depression,but so does alcohol.yet
>alcohol is leagal and pot isnt.alcohol is man made,pot
>comes from nature.who do you trust?and who has right
>to decide wich is legal,the same politicians and shit
>that are for the most part
>drunks,theifs,scandalists,lying scum bags who decide
>what they want you to know and how to live your
>life.These same political AND GOVERNMENT ASS HOLES
>have put us americans in great danger with many
>mid-east countries.no wonder our country is under
>attack.if the us government is so wonderfull,why did
>it take the terorrist attacks to decide that us
>government needs to get involved in afghanistan.that
>country has been in term oil for a long time before
>september 11.why havent we help straighten that
>out?answer is clear,NO OIL.THE US GOVERNMENT AND
>HALF-ASS, GREEDY SELF CONCEARNS ARE GONNA GET US ALL
>KILLED.i know i strayed from the original subject how
>ever i beleive pot does cuase someone who is already
>depressed to get more depressed(probably depressed
>from drinking).P.S. TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT,NEXT TIME
>YOU WANNA CUASE SHIT IN ANOTHER COUNTRY,PLEASE DONT
>SAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CONDEM,BUT SAY THE U.S.
>GOVMENT CONDEMS. A PROUD AMERICAN THAT DOESNT WANT TO
>BE HATED BECAUSE OF A FEW IDDIOTS.

Pot also has been prone to causing cancer. 5 cig = 1 joint.
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
who am i
[Edit]

Date Posted: 20:58:04 04/03/02 Wed

smoking dope does cause depression i have been through it.yes the smoke is good but its not it will fuck u up and u wont ecven no
[> Subject: >:-( Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
kkilam
[Edit]

Date Posted: 02:38:45 08/16/02 Fri

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy
WHAT GIVES DEPRESSION IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO PERSECUTE INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO LIVES POSITIVE AND HAPPY LIVES. GET OFF THE BULLSHIT AND GET FUCKIN REAL
[> [> Subject: >:-( Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
dumb
[Edit]

Date Posted: 18:10:53 01/15/03 Wed

hell no it doesnt you stuped bitches im on it now and i feel grrreeeeaaaatt
.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Bleh
[Edit]

Date Posted: 22:22:17 03/13/03 Thu

How do you feel after it wears off? Kinda shitty, right?
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Budget Reform
[Edit]

Date Posted: 09:36:44 10/02/02 Wed

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy




Well I very much agree with Doper. Much like alcohol, anti-depressents, sleeping pills, coffe, chocolate, I could go on forever pot can become addictive. It depends on the person. What pisses me off is all these people sitting there saying marijuanna shouldn't be legal, it's bad for you. But are those same people saying booze should be legal. Alcohol has proven over and over that it kills people and destroys peoples lives. But yet these alcoholics can go into a fucking bar at six in the morning and sit there drinking until 1 or 3 in the morning and then drive home where they will undoubtley kill an innocent person or persons. But there are no government officials enforcing laws on the booze.

I read in theese responses someone thinks they have liver disease, are you a drunk, because that is how you get liver disease.

I also read about someone becoming crazy and violent, be honest how much crack are you smoking along with that pot?

Our country sits here in a defecit of billions. We spend 6 billion dollars a year burning down pot fields, instead of spending 6 billion dollars cracking down on meth labs or getting killers off the streets. Do you realize how much revenue marijuanna would bring if people got their heads out of their asses. So all you complaining shouldn't be legal don't you think we'd better get every pain pill off the shelves? Because the give you the same effect and also can become very addictive and deadly. Take to many and you are dead. Do you also realize that the government are taking away farmers loans, you know the ones who grow the corn you eat at dinner, or that big fat steak your gnawing on, they are taking away their money and reposing farms, and putting it towards what. What the fuck will you eat in five years.

You can use marijuanna for many things in everyday life. Heard of hemp? We could make paper, clothes, ropes, all kinds of things. Because if you look around we are cutting down trees left and right to put up these rich apartments and condos and bullshit businesses we don't need anymore of. Before long we won't have any trees to cut down to make the trillion pieces of paper we use a day. Then what would we do.

I think people should have all the facts before they try to start stupid debates. As I sit here smoking a cigarette I think, why the fuck is that legal??? There's a goddamn warning label on the side of the pack that tells me I will get cancer from smoking them. And guess what, you want to talk about addiction. I can't go three hours before I get all antsy. And yet that is okay. God I'm tired of all the stupidity!!!

And yet when I run out of weed(which what I smoke is maybe equilavant to 1 joint a week) I can go weeks, months without it. If I really wanted too I could probally go forever without it.

You want to know why the government don't honestly legalize pot? It would take away from their pockets. It would take away alot of the other drug addictions. The crack, the heroin, the cocaine,the meth. They are making big money off of these addictions. People would use pot to come off the other drugs, and before you call me a fool for suggesting such a thing, know that is what they do in those hospital for cracheads, they give them a drug intravenously to help them sleep for days and days while they come off the effects of quiting. And then they give them pill or something of that nature to keep them calm. Much like prozac. Which is a legal way to alter your moods. That is why there are still meth labs down the streets from you, but the pot fields are burning. It all has to do with the almighty buck. Isn't the government great!!!

While children starve from their own country, the government is spending billions on the war against dope, and millions on trying to make third world countries our allies.

Wake up America, Pots not the problem, the government is!!!
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
lilone
[Edit]

Date Posted: 16:32:59 11/06/02 Wed

You know dumbass some people well all people should stop drinkng and doing drugs. Not only would the earth be better but we would get rid of alot of unwanted things in this world ex: if you are under the influence of drugs or alcholol that leads to sex which causes unwanted babies. In my opinion it all should be taken out..
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
RYAN
[Edit]

Date Posted: 16:45:10 11/16/02 Sat

you're a fucking dumbass. That isnt the point of this message board. This message board is intended to discuss whether Marijuana causes depression, not to tell people what they should and should not do. Do you like being told what is right and wrong? I sure as hell dont.

BE OPEN-MINDED, DONT TAKE IN ALL THE BULLSHIT THAT YOU HEAR
[> [> Subject: >;-) Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
LJ
[Edit]

Date Posted: 21:16:35 11/13/02 Wed

>>in response to the person who agreed with Doper:
I totally agree with you!!:) BUT!!! please don't take me wrong here, but maybe you should proof read before sending messages out:) When referring to the government, you need to address that as singular, it is one government:) 'that is what the government IS doing'
and, you should use more commas, and there are three different spellings of the word 'to':
to, too, and two
going to get---I have too much stuff----I was gone two days
also, a lot....is not spelled 'alot'
I don't mean to get on your case, but when writing about marijuanna in a positive way, we should try to use as perfect grammar as we can:)
Have you read the book 'The Emperor Wears no Clothes?'
It is on the net, the whole book:) if you haven't read it, it is a must read:)
What can we as citizens do?? I would love to be able to grow my own hemp for clothes, paper, oil, etc..
what can I do??
Just wondering, what IS the proper spelling for Marijuanna?
I have seen it with an 'h' instead of the 'j', with one 'n'
and also without the 'a' at the end:) Just a question:)

If people smoke weed thru the water pipe:) all the bad stuff is filtered out, something about being water soluble and water insoluble. I don't know, that's just what I've read:)

I can say that as far as my own experince with smoking, drinking, partying, smoking pot, eating hallucinogens and so forth, that I 'made' myself be addicted to drinking and cigarette smoking, and the same with weed:) it isn't the drug itself that is dangerous or harmful, but what the person does with it:) I guess. Everything in moderation:) I know people that will buy the first crappy bag of weed they see, and others that will hold out till the 'good stuff' arrives:)
Just like the person who is addicted to food, something happend to them, emotionally, psychologically or whatever, that puts them into a kind of cycle that they feel powerless to stop, so they just keep eating:)
I am almost thirty years old, and I smoke more weed now per day than I ever did, BUT, that is just because I am living in Belgium and am a housewife:) The stoner's dream life:)
and the only 'bad' side effect I see is a bit of weight gain, but I can control that. It's these people who get addicted easily that get into problems. Some people are just stronger than others, and some just can't handle things. Beer isn't for everyone, neither is vodka, nor weed or tobacco. That doesn't mean all should be forbidden, then all we'll have is sex and chocolate:)
but it should be available for those who wish to smoke it, eat it, whatever!!:):)
**I have heard of more abusive alcoholics, than I have of abusive weed smokers, it just doesn't exist, unless that person is naturally unhappy and full of rage:)
OK, that's enough:) I love weed, and i wish the world would see in weed what I see:) Although, I do not NEED the weed, when the THC is in my body, I don't get easily upset, it also helps with sleeping and is the best thing for PMS:)!!!
**LEGALIZE IT!!! DON'T CRITISIZE IT!!!!:):)
LJ:)
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
justin
[Edit]

Date Posted: 16:48:10 12/29/02 Sun

HELL YEA NIGGA BL00D !!!! you know it ! FUCK THE GOVERMENT !!
[> [> Subject: :-) Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Bubble head
[Edit]

Date Posted: 08:29:55 01/31/03 Fri

>>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>>Have a Nice Day,
>>Sincerely,
>>royASS
>
>
>
>Well I very much agree with Doper. Much like alcohol,
>anti-depressents, sleeping pills, coffe, chocolate, I
>could go on forever pot can become addictive. It
>depends on the person. What pisses me off is all these
>people sitting there saying marijuanna shouldn't be
>legal, it's bad for you. But are those same people
>saying booze should be legal. Alcohol has proven over
>and over that it kills people and destroys peoples
>lives. But yet these alcoholics can go into a fucking
>bar at six in the morning and sit there drinking until
>1 or 3 in the morning and then drive home where they
>will undoubtley kill an innocent person or persons.
>But there are no government officials enforcing laws
>on the booze.
>
>I read in theese responses someone thinks they have
>liver disease, are you a drunk, because that is how
>you get liver disease.
>
>I also read about someone becoming crazy and violent,
>be honest how much crack are you smoking along with
>that pot?
>
>Our country sits here in a defecit of billions. We
>spend 6 billion dollars a year burning down pot
>fields, instead of spending 6 billion dollars cracking
>down on meth labs or getting killers off the streets.
>Do you realize how much revenue marijuanna would bring
>if people got their heads out of their asses. So all
>you complaining shouldn't be legal don't you think
>we'd better get every pain pill off the shelves?
>Because the give you the same effect and also can
>become very addictive and deadly. Take to many and you
>are dead. Do you also realize that the government are
>taking away farmers loans, you know the ones who grow
>the corn you eat at dinner, or that big fat steak your
>gnawing on, they are taking away their money and
>reposing farms, and putting it towards what. What the
>fuck will you eat in five years.
>
>You can use marijuanna for many things in everyday
>life. Heard of hemp? We could make paper, clothes,
>ropes, all kinds of things. Because if you look around
>we are cutting down trees left and right to put up
>these rich apartments and condos and bullshit
>businesses we don't need anymore of. Before long we
>won't have any trees to cut down to make the trillion
>pieces of paper we use a day. Then what would we do.
>
>I think people should have all the facts before they
>try to start stupid debates. As I sit here smoking a
>cigarette I think, why the fuck is that legal???
>There's a goddamn warning label on the side of the
>pack that tells me I will get cancer from smoking
>them. And guess what, you want to talk about
>addiction. I can't go three hours before I get all
>antsy. And yet that is okay. God I'm tired of all the
>stupidity!!!
>
>And yet when I run out of weed(which what I smoke is
>maybe equilavant to 1 joint a week) I can go weeks,
>months without it. If I really wanted too I could
>probally go forever without it.
>
>You want to know why the government don't honestly
>legalize pot? It would take away from their pockets.
>It would take away alot of the other drug addictions.
>The crack, the heroin, the cocaine,the meth. They are
>making big money off of these addictions. People would
>use pot to come off the other drugs, and before you
>call me a fool for suggesting such a thing, know that
>is what they do in those hospital for cracheads, they
>give them a drug intravenously to help them sleep for
>days and days while they come off the effects of
>quiting. And then they give them pill or something of
>that nature to keep them calm. Much like prozac. Which
>is a legal way to alter your moods. That is why there
>are still meth labs down the streets from you, but the
>pot fields are burning. It all has to do with the
>almighty buck. Isn't the government great!!!
>
>While children starve from their own country, the
>government is spending billions on the war against
>dope, and millions on trying to make third world
>countries our allies.
>
>Wake up America, Pots not the problem, the government
>is!!!
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
resin
[Edit]

Date Posted: 20:45:19 02/18/03 Tue

Amen Brother.

I think the argument between alcohol and pot is nicely sumed up by this song by The Streets...

It's a dialogue featuring two people....can you pick the ignorant alcoholic?

"The Irony Of It All"

Hello, Hello. My names Terry and I'm a law abider
There's nothing I like more than getting fired up on beer
And when the weekends here I to exercise my right to get paralytic and fight
Good bloke fairly
But I get well leery when geezers look at me funny
Bounce 'em round like bunnies
I'm likely to cause mischief
Good clean grief you must believe and I ain't no thief.
Law abiding and all, all legal.
And who cares about my liver when it feels good
Wwhat you need is some real manhood.
Rasher Rasher Barney and Kasha putting peoples backs up.
Public disorder, I'll give you public disorder.
I down eight pints and run all over the place
Spit in the face of an officer
See if that bothers you cause I never broke a law in my life
Someday I'm gonna settle down with a wife
Come on lads lets have another fight

Eh hello. My names Tim and I'm a criminal,
In the eyes of society I need to be in jail
For the choice of herbs I inhale.
This ain't no wholesale operation
Just a few eighths and some Playstations my's vocation
I pose a threat to the nation
And down the station the police hold no patients
Let's talk space and time
I like to get deep sometimes and think about Einstein
And Carl Young And old Kung Fu movies I like to see
Pass the hydrator please
Yeah I'm floating on thin air.
Going to Amsterdam in the New Year - top gear there
Cause I taker pride in my hobby
Home made bongs using my engineering degree
Dear Leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons.

Like I was saying to him.
I told him: "Top with me and you won't leave."
So I smacked him in the head and downed another Carling
Bada Bada Bing for the lad's night.
Mad fight, his face's a sad sight.
Vodka and Snake Bite.
Going on like a right geez, he's a twat,
Shouldn't have looked at me like that.
Anyway I'm an upstanding citizen
If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.
Can't stand crime either them hooligans on heroin.
Drugs and criminals those thugs on the penny coloured will be the downfall of society
I've got all the anger pent up inside of me.

You know I don't see why I should be the criminal
How can something with no recorded fatalities be illegal
And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol
I just completed Gran Tourismo on the hardest setting
We pose no threat on my settee
Ooh the pizza's here will someone let him in please
"We didn't order chicken, Not a problem we'll pick it out
I doubt they meant to mess us about
After all we're all adults not louts."
As I was saying, we're friendly peaceful people
We're not the ones out there causing trouble.
We just sit in this hazy bubble with our quarters
Discussing how beautiful Gail Porter is.
MTV, BBC 2, Channel 4 is on until six in the morning.
Then at six in the morning the sun dawns and it's my bedtime.

Causing trouble, your stinking rabble
Boys saying I'm the lad who's spoiling it
You're on drugs it really bugs me when people try and tell me I'm a thug
Just for getting drunk
I like getting drunk
Cause I'm an upstanding citizen
If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.

Now Terry you're repeating yourself
But that's okay drunk people can't help that.
A chemical reaction inside your brain causes you to forget what you're saying.

What. I know exactly what I'm saying
I'm perfectly sane
You stinking student lameo
Go get a job and stop robbing us of our taxes.

Err, well actually according to research
Government funding for further education pales in insignificance
When compared to how much they spend on repairing
Leery drunk people at the weekend
In casualty wards all over the land.

Why you cheeky little swine come here
I'm gonna batter you. Come here.





>>>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>>>Have a Nice Day,
>>>Sincerely,
>>>royASS
>>
>>
>>
>>Well I very much agree with Doper. Much like alcohol,
>>anti-depressents, sleeping pills, coffe, chocolate, I
>>could go on forever pot can become addictive. It
>>depends on the person. What pisses me off is all these
>>people sitting there saying marijuanna shouldn't be
>>legal, it's bad for you. But are those same people
>>saying booze should be legal. Alcohol has proven over
>>and over that it kills people and destroys peoples
>>lives. But yet these alcoholics can go into a fucking
>>bar at six in the morning and sit there drinking until
>>1 or 3 in the morning and then drive home where they
>>will undoubtley kill an innocent person or persons.
>>But there are no government officials enforcing laws
>>on the booze.
>>
>>I read in theese responses someone thinks they have
>>liver disease, are you a drunk, because that is how
>>you get liver disease.
>>
>>I also read about someone becoming crazy and violent,
>>be honest how much crack are you smoking along with
>>that pot?
>>
>>Our country sits here in a defecit of billions. We
>>spend 6 billion dollars a year burning down pot
>>fields, instead of spending 6 billion dollars cracking
>>down on meth labs or getting killers off the streets.
>>Do you realize how much revenue marijuanna would bring
>>if people got their heads out of their asses. So all
>>you complaining shouldn't be legal don't you think
>>we'd better get every pain pill off the shelves?
>>Because the give you the same effect and also can
>>become very addictive and deadly. Take to many and you
>>are dead. Do you also realize that the government are
>>taking away farmers loans, you know the ones who grow
>>the corn you eat at dinner, or that big fat steak your
>>gnawing on, they are taking away their money and
>>reposing farms, and putting it towards what. What the
>>fuck will you eat in five years.
>>
>>You can use marijuanna for many things in everyday
>>life. Heard of hemp? We could make paper, clothes,
>>ropes, all kinds of things. Because if you look around
>>we are cutting down trees left and right to put up
>>these rich apartments and condos and bullshit
>>businesses we don't need anymore of. Before long we
>>won't have any trees to cut down to make the trillion
>>pieces of paper we use a day. Then what would we do.
>>
>>I think people should have all the facts before they
>>try to start stupid debates. As I sit here smoking a
>>cigarette I think, why the fuck is that legal???
>>There's a goddamn warning label on the side of the
>>pack that tells me I will get cancer from smoking
>>them. And guess what, you want to talk about
>>addiction. I can't go three hours before I get all
>>antsy. And yet that is okay. God I'm tired of all the
>>stupidity!!!
>>
>>And yet when I run out of weed(which what I smoke is
>>maybe equilavant to 1 joint a week) I can go weeks,
>>months without it. If I really wanted too I could
>>probally go forever without it.
>>
>>You want to know why the government don't honestly
>>legalize pot? It would take away from their pockets.
>>It would take away alot of the other drug addictions.
>>The crack, the heroin, the cocaine,the meth. They are
>>making big money off of these addictions. People would
>>use pot to come off the other drugs, and before you
>>call me a fool for suggesting such a thing, know that
>>is what they do in those hospital for cracheads, they
>>give them a drug intravenously to help them sleep for
>>days and days while they come off the effects of
>>quiting. And then they give them pill or something of
>>that nature to keep them calm. Much like prozac. Which
>>is a legal way to alter your moods. That is why there
>>are still meth labs down the streets from you, but the
>>pot fields are burning. It all has to do with the
>>almighty buck. Isn't the government great!!!
>>
>>While children starve from their own country, the
>>government is spending billions on the war against
>>dope, and millions on trying to make third world
>>countries our allies.
>>
>>Wake up America, Pots not the problem, the government
>>is!!!
[> [> [> [> Subject: my last post...ever


Author:
aggrophile
[Edit]

Date Posted: 05:33:41 02/23/03 Sun

Interesting. I tried to drink Euro beer once, had to spit it out(tastes like there's lead in it or something; not too good for the brain, I'd think). Myself? Been sober 3 months & counting, right on to infinity. No "God saved me", no psych, no pills, meetings or anything like that...just my own free will. Addiction is addiction. We don't need to continue this, do we? I posted a message here a couple weeks back to someone who was at a crossraods, and I did the best to explain to her that all is well. Sorry you had to post the same tired old pot=good, alcohol bad, because I was really giving it you the benefit of the doubt, thinking "hey, if people see me come on here talking intelligently about cleaning up my life & how I did it all on my own, how I learned from it & how I took the time to care to learn about the science of alcohol's destruction on the body" then I guess I figured this asinine smear contest against me would end. I mean, what is the point? I have nothing left to defend. I'm not coming on here singing songs about "yay! alcohol rules!", so then why are you posting rediculous, stereotypical shit? Would it help if I said I want them to legalize your precious pot? Ok..."Hey maaaan, leeguliez it, duuuude! Prezedint Bu$H iz a pu$$ie! Kkkonspiricy! Giv peece a chaaaance, nmaan! Cuumbayahhhhhh...".





>Amen Brother.
>
>I think the argument between alcohol and pot is nicely
>sumed up by this song by The Streets...
>
>It's a dialogue featuring two people....can you pick
>the ignorant alcoholic?
>
>"The Irony Of It All"
>
>Hello, Hello. My names Terry and I'm a law abider
>There's nothing I like more than getting fired up on
>beer
>And when the weekends here I to exercise my right to
>get paralytic and fight
>Good bloke fairly
>But I get well leery when geezers look at me funny
>Bounce 'em round like bunnies
>I'm likely to cause mischief
>Good clean grief you must believe and I ain't no thief.
>Law abiding and all, all legal.
>And who cares about my liver when it feels good
>Wwhat you need is some real manhood.
>Rasher Rasher Barney and Kasha putting peoples backs
>up.
>Public disorder, I'll give you public disorder.
>I down eight pints and run all over the place
>Spit in the face of an officer
>See if that bothers you cause I never broke a law in
>my life
>Someday I'm gonna settle down with a wife
>Come on lads lets have another fight
>
>Eh hello. My names Tim and I'm a criminal,
>In the eyes of society I need to be in jail
>For the choice of herbs I inhale.
>This ain't no wholesale operation
>Just a few eighths and some Playstations my's vocation
>I pose a threat to the nation
>And down the station the police hold no patients
>Let's talk space and time
>I like to get deep sometimes and think about Einstein
>And Carl Young And old Kung Fu movies I like to see
>Pass the hydrator please
>Yeah I'm floating on thin air.
>Going to Amsterdam in the New Year - top gear there
>Cause I taker pride in my hobby
>Home made bongs using my engineering degree
>Dear Leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons.
>
>Like I was saying to him.
>I told him: "Top with me and you won't leave."
>So I smacked him in the head and downed another Carling
>Bada Bada Bing for the lad's night.
>Mad fight, his face's a sad sight.
>Vodka and Snake Bite.
>Going on like a right geez, he's a twat,
>Shouldn't have looked at me like that.
>Anyway I'm an upstanding citizen
>If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.
>Can't stand crime either them hooligans on heroin.
>Drugs and criminals those thugs on the penny coloured
>will be the downfall of society
>I've got all the anger pent up inside of me.
>
>You know I don't see why I should be the criminal
>How can something with no recorded fatalities be
>illegal
>And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol
>I just completed Gran Tourismo on the hardest setting
>We pose no threat on my settee
>Ooh the pizza's here will someone let him in please
>"We didn't order chicken, Not a problem we'll pick it
>out
>I doubt they meant to mess us about
>After all we're all adults not louts."
>As I was saying, we're friendly peaceful people
>We're not the ones out there causing trouble.
>We just sit in this hazy bubble with our quarters
>Discussing how beautiful Gail Porter is.
>MTV, BBC 2, Channel 4 is on until six in the morning.
>Then at six in the morning the sun dawns and it's my
>bedtime.
>
>Causing trouble, your stinking rabble
>Boys saying I'm the lad who's spoiling it
>You're on drugs it really bugs me when people try and
>tell me I'm a thug
>Just for getting drunk
>I like getting drunk
>Cause I'm an upstanding citizen
>If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.
>
>Now Terry you're repeating yourself
>But that's okay drunk people can't help that.
>A chemical reaction inside your brain causes you to
>forget what you're saying.
>
>What. I know exactly what I'm saying
>I'm perfectly sane
>You stinking student lameo
>Go get a job and stop robbing us of our taxes.
>
>Err, well actually according to research
>Government funding for further education pales in
>insignificance
>When compared to how much they spend on repairing
>Leery drunk people at the weekend
>In casualty wards all over the land.
>
>Why you cheeky little swine come here
>I'm gonna batter you. Come here.
>
>
>
>
>
>>>>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression
>because
>>>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go
>to
>>>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>>>marijuanna because this helps him help you.
>HELLO!!!!
>>>>Have a Nice Day,
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>royASS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Well I very much agree with Doper. Much like alcohol,
>>>anti-depressents, sleeping pills, coffe, chocolate, I
>>>could go on forever pot can become addictive. It
>>>depends on the person. What pisses me off is all
>these
>>>people sitting there saying marijuanna shouldn't be
>>>legal, it's bad for you. But are those same people
>>>saying booze should be legal. Alcohol has proven over
>>>and over that it kills people and destroys peoples
>>>lives. But yet these alcoholics can go into a fucking
>>>bar at six in the morning and sit there drinking
>until
>>>1 or 3 in the morning and then drive home where they
>>>will undoubtley kill an innocent person or persons.
>>>But there are no government officials enforcing laws
>>>on the booze.
>>>
>>>I read in theese responses someone thinks they have
>>>liver disease, are you a drunk, because that is how
>>>you get liver disease.
>>>
>>>I also read about someone becoming crazy and violent,
>>>be honest how much crack are you smoking along with
>>>that pot?
>>>
>>>Our country sits here in a defecit of billions. We
>>>spend 6 billion dollars a year burning down pot
>>>fields, instead of spending 6 billion dollars
>cracking
>>>down on meth labs or getting killers off the streets.
>>>Do you realize how much revenue marijuanna would
>bring
>>>if people got their heads out of their asses. So all
>>>you complaining shouldn't be legal don't you think
>>>we'd better get every pain pill off the shelves?
>>>Because the give you the same effect and also can
>>>become very addictive and deadly. Take to many and
>you
>>>are dead. Do you also realize that the government are
>>>taking away farmers loans, you know the ones who grow
>>>the corn you eat at dinner, or that big fat steak
>your
>>>gnawing on, they are taking away their money and
>>>reposing farms, and putting it towards what. What the
>>>fuck will you eat in five years.
>>>
>>>You can use marijuanna for many things in everyday
>>>life. Heard of hemp? We could make paper, clothes,
>>>ropes, all kinds of things. Because if you look
>around
>>>we are cutting down trees left and right to put up
>>>these rich apartments and condos and bullshit
>>>businesses we don't need anymore of. Before long we
>>>won't have any trees to cut down to make the trillion
>>>pieces of paper we use a day. Then what would we do.
>>>
>>>I think people should have all the facts before they
>>>try to start stupid debates. As I sit here smoking a
>>>cigarette I think, why the fuck is that legal???
>>>There's a goddamn warning label on the side of the
>>>pack that tells me I will get cancer from smoking
>>>them. And guess what, you want to talk about
>>>addiction. I can't go three hours before I get all
>>>antsy. And yet that is okay. God I'm tired of all the
>>>stupidity!!!
>>>
>>>And yet when I run out of weed(which what I smoke is
>>>maybe equilavant to 1 joint a week) I can go weeks,
>>>months without it. If I really wanted too I could
>>>probally go forever without it.
>>>
>>>You want to know why the government don't honestly
>>>legalize pot? It would take away from their pockets.
>>>It would take away alot of the other drug addictions.
>>>The crack, the heroin, the cocaine,the meth. They are
>>>making big money off of these addictions. People
>would
>>>use pot to come off the other drugs, and before you
>>>call me a fool for suggesting such a thing, know that
>>>is what they do in those hospital for cracheads, they
>>>give them a drug intravenously to help them sleep for
>>>days and days while they come off the effects of
>>>quiting. And then they give them pill or something of
>>>that nature to keep them calm. Much like prozac.
>Which
>>>is a legal way to alter your moods. That is why there
>>>are still meth labs down the streets from you, but
>the
>>>pot fields are burning. It all has to do with the
>>>almighty buck. Isn't the government great!!!
>>>
>>>While children starve from their own country, the
>>>government is spending billions on the war against
>>>dope, and millions on trying to make third world
>>>countries our allies.
>>>
>>>Wake up America, Pots not the problem, the government
>>>is!!!
[> [> Subject: going off antidepresents


Author:
chris
[Edit]

Date Posted: 02:32:48 02/27/03 Thu

ive been taking anti depressents for about a year
and ive stoped taking them
and im getting bad stomach pains and dizzyniss is this some kind of withdrawl symptom or somthing ?
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Brent
[Edit]

Date Posted: 09:57:20 03/03/03 Mon

>>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>>brain. HELLO!!!
>>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>>Have a Nice Day,
>>Sincerely,
>>roy
>
>
>
>
>Well I very much agree with Doper. Much like alcohol,
>anti-depressents, sleeping pills, coffe, chocolate, I
>could go on forever pot can become addictive. It
>depends on the person. What pisses me off is all these
>people sitting there saying marijuanna shouldn't be
>legal, it's bad for you. But are those same people
>saying booze should be legal. Alcohol has proven over
>and over that it kills people and destroys peoples
>lives. But yet these alcoholics can go into a fucking
>bar at six in the morning and sit there drinking until
>1 or 3 in the morning and then drive home where they
>will undoubtley kill an innocent person or persons.
>But there are no government officials enforcing laws
>on the booze.
>
>I read in theese responses someone thinks they have
>liver disease, are you a drunk, because that is how
>you get liver disease.
>
>I also read about someone becoming crazy and violent,
>be honest how much crack are you smoking along with
>that pot?
>
>Our country sits here in a defecit of billions. We
>spend 6 billion dollars a year burning down pot
>fields, instead of spending 6 billion dollars cracking
>down on meth labs or getting killers off the streets.
>Do you realize how much revenue marijuanna would bring
>if people got their heads out of their asses. So all
>you complaining shouldn't be legal don't you think
>we'd better get every pain pill off the shelves?
>Because the give you the same effect and also can
>become very addictive and deadly. Take to many and you
>are dead. Do you also realize that the government are
>taking away farmers loans, you know the ones who grow
>the corn you eat at dinner, or that big fat steak your
>gnawing on, they are taking away their money and
>reposing farms, and putting it towards what. What the
>fuck will you eat in five years.
>
>You can use marijuanna for many things in everyday
>life. Heard of hemp? We could make paper, clothes,
>ropes, all kinds of things. Because if you look around
>we are cutting down trees left and right to put up
>these rich apartments and condos and bullshit
>businesses we don't need anymore of. Before long we
>won't have any trees to cut down to make the trillion
>pieces of paper we use a day. Then what would we do.
>
>I think people should have all the facts before they
>try to start stupid debates. As I sit here smoking a
>cigarette I think, why the fuck is that legal???
>There's a goddamn warning label on the side of the
>pack that tells me I will get cancer from smoking
>them. And guess what, you want to talk about
>addiction. I can't go three hours before I get all
>antsy. And yet that is okay. God I'm tired of all the
>stupidity!!!
>
>And yet when I run out of weed(which what I smoke is
>maybe equilavant to 1 joint a week) I can go weeks,
>months without it. If I really wanted too I could
>probally go forever without it.
>
>You want to know why the government don't honestly
>legalize pot? It would take away from their pockets.
>It would take away alot of the other drug addictions.
>The crack, the heroin, the cocaine,the meth. They are
>making big money off of these addictions. People would
>use pot to come off the other drugs, and before you
>call me a fool for suggesting such a thing, know that
>is what they do in those hospital for cracheads, they
>give them a drug intravenously to help them sleep for
>days and days while they come off the effects of
>quiting. And then they give them pill or something of
>that nature to keep them calm. Much like prozac. Which
>is a legal way to alter your moods. That is why there
>are still meth labs down the streets from you, but the
>pot fields are burning. It all has to do with the
>almighty buck. Isn't the government great!!!
>
>While children starve from their own country, the
>government is spending billions on the war against
>dope, and millions on trying to make third world
>countries our allies.
>
>Wake up America, Pots not the problem, the government
>is!!!
You are one fucked up pot head. Obviously you have smoked to much grass. Now stop bitching about it on a fucking website and get off your ass and do somting. You fucking whiny baby.
[> Subject: B-) Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
dede
[Edit]

Date Posted: 10:42:20 10/24/02 Thu

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy

well hello all you people may say that it causes depression and all that shit but you can't say that it does not eas your mind hello ass holes
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Chronic
[Edit]

Date Posted: 00:40:13 11/02/02 Sat

You say it uses up all your feel good chemicals? this must be a myth while I agree it does make things more enjoyable and lifes problems a little less stressful (not oblivious) It can't use them up, doesn't you body produce them? the feel good chemicals. Does prozac and other anti-depressants such as that stimulate these chemicals? do you also think those use them up? If I was depressed I think I would rather smoke a natural substance such as marijuanna to feel better. rather than a man made chemical that may or may not be affecting your spleen kidneys liver or cardilarvascular system. If you don't like it don't smoke it that's your choice, but please don't try to make decisions for me, or impose your properganda based opinion on me or others who Know fact from fiction. Don't believe everything the government tells you, for example in the late fifties gov't sponserd tv ads depicted that weed would drive you insane and could even lead to murder please.... Hello wake up sheep....Make your own mind up not mine.
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
stupid people piss me off
[Edit]

Date Posted: 21:15:41 11/02/02 Sat

first off....I'd like to know what it is with all u people saying "HELLO!!" all the time, what the fuck is that? Second, I'd just like to say to the fuck talking about a ziplock bag that EVERY true marijuanna user knows better than to use a ziplock bag, I mean shit, u call urself a stoner? u should b ashamed, and about tav (aka. Marijuanna) causing depression? It's not tav it's the drugs used along with it u stupid bastards, I personally LOVE to smoke, I've been a pretty heavy smoker for quite a while now and I LOVE it, my girlfriend (who doesn't smoke) and I r VERY happy and not ONE of my friends have EVER pressured me to do ANYTHING, I smoke because I like to, I started because I wanted to, all u fuck ups claim it causes depression and 2/3rds of u havn't even touched it b 4, how would u know? Seriously, fuckin rediculous, reading this shit has really pissed me off, and I do believe someone compared it to alchol, made alot of very good points, lets add to them shall we? I saw someone puke/piss blood because they fucked up thier liver/stomach so badly, have u ever seen weed do that? Can't you also fuck up your throat from alcohol as well as tav? Doesn't alcohol kill just as many if not more brain cells than alcohol? Case in point. I mean shit, think about it, compare it to alcohol and it doesn't look that bad, especially when u consider most alcoholicz smoke ciggs ne way. Now if u want to compare ciggs to weed, sure, weed has 50% more tar in it but ciggs have all those added poisons which would b why u get cancer from ciggs so much quicker than weed, I mean shit, people that simply smoke cigars (which has much cleaner tobaco than ciggs) don't get cancer as often, that being said I'd like to blame that cancer primarily on the extra poisons within ciggs and I don't want to see anymore blame for cancer on weed. Now that I've properly educated you I don't want to see ne more falsified statements against mary jane. Now go get stoned!
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Mr. Denys
[Edit]

Date Posted: 23:22:14 11/23/02 Sat

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy

I don't know where you people are from, but that "HELLO!!!" thing is pretty screwed up. What does it mean??? And that "uses up all the feel good chemicals in your brain" is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Your brain does not have a quota of "feel good" chemicals. Those chemicals are what the brain creates when you're enjoying yourself. That's why enjoying yourself feels good. Marijuanna is an anti-depressant, which means it provokes your brain to produce "feel good" chemicals. It doesn't "use them up", it creates them! ...Not that I want to encourage drug use; There are thousands of natural highs that don't fry your brain; But get your facts straight, don't make them up.
[> Subject: *!* Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Relx2000
[Edit]

Date Posted: 03:39:16 12/15/02 Sun

After reading this tread I think that most of you have your brains up in the ass. You want to know why??? Here is why... Pot DOES NOT cause depression!!! It just makes all your feeling bag/good whatever much stronger/brighter when you high. When you are not high, it seems that you are in depression because you do not feel that way anymore but you really want to. That is why you just want to suck on that joint and everything is going be alright. No it won’t! You will constantly crave for that good good good feeling. The only way out is to find something that excites you. Someone I know quit smoking pot and took a hobby of keeping aquarium. That was 6 years ago. Today he owns 3 exotic fish stores in N.CA. Another guy made his priority to fuck every girl he ever wanted to fuck. To get to that point he had to quit smoking pot, started exercise, and find a good job. Guess what? He is made it... And guess what... This guy is me :)

I smoked pot for 8 years everyday...several times a day And I will tell you (to males only) If you are a heavy smoker and in relationship you probably already noticed that you do not want to have sex as often as you used to. You CAN you just do not want to....guess what... its going to get worse...stop now and find something to do that you really like... this is the only way to replace that craving.

Do not get me wrong. I'm not a pot hater, even as I type this I recall those times and I get this feeling....mmmmm..I want a joint...

Good luck to you all. Be careful.

D




>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy
[> Subject: >:) Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
earthmatrix.org
[Edit]

Date Posted: 16:37:53 01/27/03 Mon

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy

This is probably only true if you smoke more than occasionally. For example if you smoke 3 or 4 joints a day your over indulging. 1 joint a day won't hurt.
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
paul
[Edit]

Date Posted: 19:22:06 01/29/03 Wed

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy
I think it should be as legal as buying beer. H E L L O ! !
smoke a joint you're relaxed...smoke a joint AND drink a beer would be peaceful...maybe we all need to do that in todays world...with the war crud going on. HELLO! who know's? may cause world peace!! chill out...don't be depressed! smoke a doobie!!!! tell that to the iraq people who are trying to kill us! they may just take a toke and forget all the BS going on!! ha!!!
hope for peace!!!!!!
paul
[> Subject: *!* marijuanna


Author:
mary tovar
[Edit]

Date Posted: 07:42:42 02/05/03 Wed

theres nothing wrong with weed. ive done it before and it does not have the side effects that they say it does. but people do say its different for everybody.id rather smoke weed then to take care of my kids. i hate my kids. im going to start selling cocane to people to earn money so i can by nice cloths so when i go out.

sincerily Mary Tovar
[> Subject: *!* marijuanna


Author:
mary tovar
[Edit]

Date Posted: 07:46:00 02/05/03 Wed

theres nothing wrong with weed. ive done it before and it does not have the side effects that they say it does. but people do say its different for everybody.id rather smoke weed then to take care of my kids. i hate my kids. im going to start selling cocane to people to earn money so i can by nice cloths so when i go out.

sincerily Mary Tovar

p.s. i live in ammarillo texas. id rather have dick than to take care of my kids.
[> Subject: ? Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
adam
[Edit]

Date Posted: 18:56:45 02/05/03 Wed

roy is a fag who rapes little boys assholes. he is a stupid black ass nigger.i hope you kill yourself you moron fat head and you smell like hot carbage
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
?Kalli
[Edit]

Date Posted: 13:22:24 03/02/03 Sun

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy
I have been suffering with depression for many years up to 200 mg of zoloft and 2 mg of clonopin a day. I have used marijuana pretty much everyday for the last two years. I have no doubt that it has made my mind foggy and more panicked and more depressed. I always feel guilty for smoking because myparents hate it and i know it is not right for me i am better than that but i still succomb to my bodys or my minds desire for smoking it. I am going to be quitting tommorow and i would like ot tell you that my life will be great and i will have all the things i ever wanted and my depression would cease and i could lead a normal everyday american dream but i can't because i know there will be times when i am going to really want it but those are the times when i call on my faith that bad times get better. Life is all about time, you ever notice that the good times in your life seem to just fly right by and the bad ones seem to loom under you for so much longer. I have faith in god and i know he has plans for me adn they are not this. WISH ME THE BEST OF LUCK ON MY JOURNEY TO FIND WHO I AM REALLY MEANT TO BE IN THIS WORLD, I WISH ALL OF YOU ALL GOOD LUCK WITH ALL YOUR LIVES ALSO. ALWAYS BELIEVE THERE IS A BETTER DAY AHEAD, MAYBE TOMMOROW MAYBE A MONTH FROM NOW BUT IT IS THERE.PLEASE EVERYONE WHO MAY READ THIS PRAY FOR ME OR SEND ME YOUR BLESSINGS I NEED THEM.
[> Subject: listen here all you butt fuckers


Author:
Mr. Nugs
[Edit]

Date Posted: 11:29:52 03/04/03 Tue

your all a bunch of fucking pussies, you think people actually look on this site!?!? smoking weed isnt a big deal, your wasting your time on something that isnt even legal...fuckin wastes of life...
[> Subject: smoke weed everyday


Author:
jeremy
[Edit]

Date Posted: 21:45:16 03/04/03 Tue

weed doesn't cause depression, weed makes u relax and chill, it doesn't cause depression it causes u to panic

jer.c
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
sara
[Edit]

Date Posted: 13:04:33 03/19/03 Wed

hello, i'm doing a project on marijuannna if any of you dont mind or know about marijuanna please email me or let me inter view you please i need it by april 11 2003 thank you Zucchinininny@yahoo.com
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
joe
[Edit]

Date Posted: 13:09:17 03/31/03 Mon

>MARIJANNA RULES
[> Subject: Re: I am NOT depressed!!!!!!


Author:
Amy
[Edit]

Date Posted: 19:27:40 04/01/03 Tue

>Yes, smoking marijuanna will cause depression because
>it uses up all the "feel good" chemicals in your
>brain. HELLO!!!
>It's best to stop using Marijuanna and when you go to
>the doctor it's a good idea to tell him about your
>marijuanna because this helps him help you. HELLO!!!!
>Have a Nice Day,
>Sincerely,
>roy
[> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
john acohol
[Edit]

Date Posted: 12:07:16 04/09/03 Wed

Smokin weed does not cause depression cause i used to smoke weed everyday and i felt good as hell. I used to drink, smoke, and fuck hoes and get head all day. So whoever started this site about weed causes Depression, suck my fuckin dick cause it doesn't. IT GIVES YOU WINGS(ENERGY).
[> [> Subject: Re: Marijuanna Does cause Depression


Author:
Weed Man
[Edit]

Date Posted: 12:12:24 04/09/03 Wed

Marijuanna is not a gateway drug. Its a happy drug. Makes me laugh, makes me horny. It also makes me energetic. So fat pussies and big cocks rule cause the the flame ass green that all of us people smoke. You should try stupid ass bitch.
[> Subject: TIME TO GATHER IN A CIRCLE!


Author:
carly
[Edit]

Date Posted: 23:20:42 04/14/03 Mon

MARY-JANE IS WHO IM DREAMIN OF THE ONE I ADORE AND THE ONE I LOVE THE BEATIFUL LADY SHES SO SO SWEET MY FOREVERLASTING LOVE THAT I ALWAYS WANNA MEET........NOW MY FRIENDS SAY THAT SHE GOTS A GOOD VIBE AND EVERYTIME THEY SEE HER SHE GETS THEM HIGH SHE SO SO SLY SHE MY FLY BABY THE ONE AND ONLY MARY THAT DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!!!!
Subject: Stigma = Stifled Research


Author:
Tom
[Edit]

Date Posted: 02:32:42 04/14/03 Mon

It's extremely disappointing to scour the internet for information regarding the relationship between antidepressant medication and marijuana only to find a hodge-podge of contradicting testimonies, speculation, and outright BS. I spent a couple hours reading through this entire message board, as well as a comprehensive google search, and I've only become more confused. If only there was no stigma attached to marijuana, then there would be answers to my questions...
Subject: Researching*!*


Author:
Mo Chi Cha
[Edit]

Date Posted: 13:22:11 04/13/03 Sun

*!*Im doing a project on marijuanna. I would like for you people who poast messages on here and who know what your talking about to email me and tell me what you know on this subject. I would love if you did.*!*

Thankyou.

sincerely,
a person who would like to make the right choices.
Subject: ? stoned


Author:
fat fredy
[Edit]

Date Posted: 01:41:36 04/08/03 Tue

Everything in moderation is ok, start over doing it and things start going wrong. But sometimes when i´ve had a bad day its hard toö keep things at a moderate level and i hate the damage its doing to my lungs. Would love to give up but not for ever. Is there any truth in this article i read in the Daily Mail?

Cannabis ages lungs
By Mark Capper, Metro
7 April 2003
Cannabis users in their 20s and 30s have lungs like those of 60-yearolds who have smoked cigarettes their whole lives.

The discovery has led to fears of a chronic lung disease epidemic among young adults who are smoking more of the drug - in more powerful doses - than ever before.

Poisons expert Prof John Henry established the link after treating patients with collapsed lungs.

They were suffering from a type of emphysema you would not, in a million years, expect to see in someone in their 20s or 30s - even if they were a cigarette smoker,' he said. 'You would not expect to see lungs like these until a smoker was about 60.

'When I questioned them, they all admitted to having smoked cannabis for about eight to ten years. It was very disturbing.'

He added: 'Particularly worrying is that one or two said they smoked only a couple of times a week.'

Because healthy people can also suffer collapsed lungs for no obvious medical reason, Prof Henry thinks hundreds of cannabis-induced cases are being overlooked.

In a speech last night to the Royal Society of Medicine, he warned of the dangers of greater tolerance.

'It could lead to thousands of young adults being damaged for life before they are middle-aged,' said Prof Henry, based at St Mary's Hospital in Paddington, West London.

'People ought to be warned. With cannabis you can damage your lungs in about 25 per cent of the time it takes if you use tobacco.'

Anybody know?
[> Subject: Re: stoned


Author:
aggrophile
[Edit]

Date Posted: 16:24:38 04/08/03 Tue

>Everything in moderation is ok, start over doing it
>and things start going wrong. But sometimes when i´ve
>had a bad day its hard toö keep things at a moderate
>level and i hate the damage its doing to my lungs.
>Would love to give up but not for ever. Is there any
>truth in this article i read in the Daily Mail?
>
>Cannabis ages lungs
>By Mark Capper, Metro
>7 April 2003
>Cannabis users in their 20s and 30s have lungs like
>those of 60-yearolds who have smoked cigarettes their
>whole lives.
>
>The discovery has led to fears of a chronic lung
>disease epidemic among young adults who are smoking
>more of the drug - in more powerful doses - than ever
>before.
>
>Poisons expert Prof John Henry established the link
>after treating patients with collapsed lungs.
>
>They were suffering from a type of emphysema you would
>not, in a million years, expect to see in someone in
>their 20s or 30s - even if they were a cigarette
>smoker,' he said. 'You would not expect to see lungs
>like these until a smoker was about 60.
>
>'When I questioned them, they all admitted to having
>smoked cannabis for about eight to ten years. It was
>very disturbing.'
>
>He added: 'Particularly worrying is that one or two
>said they smoked only a couple of times a week.'
>
>Because healthy people can also suffer collapsed lungs
>for no obvious medical reason, Prof Henry thinks
>hundreds of cannabis-induced cases are being
>overlooked.
>
>In a speech last night to the Royal Society of
>Medicine, he warned of the dangers of greater
>tolerance.
>
>'It could lead to thousands of young adults being
>damaged for life before they are middle-aged,' said
>Prof Henry, based at St Mary's Hospital in Paddington,
>West London.
>
>'People ought to be warned. With cannabis you can
>damage your lungs in about 25 per cent of the time it
>takes if you use tobacco.'
>
>Anybody know?

And they say it has noooooooooooo side effects...just wait until it's legalized, watch--the Truth.com ads that you're seeing now against cigs(tageting teens, homeless, etc.) will be shoved SO far up their liberal asses that all of a sudden you'll see old hippies denouncing "the bud" who were just smoking it 2 minutes ago. The hypocracy of politics...
Subject: ? stoned


Author:
fat fredy
[Edit]

Date Posted: 01:45:35 04/08/03 Tue

Everything in moderation is ok, start over doing it and things start going wrong. But sometimes when i´ve had a bad day its hard toö keep things at a moderate level and i hate the damage its doing to my lungs. Would love to give up but not for ever. Is there any truth in this article i read in the Daily Mail?

Cannabis ages lungs
By Mark Capper, Metro
7 April 2003
Cannabis users in their 20s and 30s have lungs like those of 60-yearolds who have smoked cigarettes their whole lives.

The discovery has led to fears of a chronic lung disease epidemic among young adults who are smoking more of the drug - in more powerful doses - than ever before.

Poisons expert Prof John Henry established the link after treating patients with collapsed lungs.

They were suffering from a type of emphysema you would not, in a million years, expect to see in someone in their 20s or 30s - even if they were a cigarette smoker,' he said. 'You would not expect to see lungs like these until a smoker was about 60.

'When I questioned them, they all admitted to having smoked cannabis for about eight to ten years. It was very disturbing.'

He added: 'Particularly worrying is that one or two said they smoked only a couple of times a week.'

Because healthy people can also suffer collapsed lungs for no obvious medical reason, Prof Henry thinks hundreds of cannabis-induced cases are being overlooked.

In a speech last night to the Royal Society of Medicine, he warned of the dangers of greater tolerance.

'It could lead to thousands of young adults being damaged for life before they are middle-aged,' said Prof Henry, based at St Mary's Hospital in Paddington, West London.

'People ought to be warned. With cannabis you can damage your lungs in about 25 per cent of the time it takes if you use tobacco.'

Anybody know?
[> Subject: Re: stoned again


Author:
stoned
[Edit]

Date Posted: 01:50:40 04/08/03 Tue

>Everything in moderation is ok, start over doing it
>and things start going wrong. But sometimes when i´ve
>had a bad day its hard too keep things at a moderate
>level and i hate the damage its doing to my lungs.
>Would love to give up but not for ever (The odd day/week/month off). Is there any
>truth in this article i read in the Daily Mail?
>
>Cannabis ages lungs
>By Mark Capper, Metro
>7 April 2003
>Cannabis users in their 20s and 30s have lungs like
>those of 60-yearolds who have smoked cigarettes their
>whole lives.
>
>The discovery has led to fears of a chronic lung
>disease epidemic among young adults who are smoking
>more of the drug - in more powerful doses - than ever
>before.
>
>Poisons expert Prof John Henry established the link
>after treating patients with collapsed lungs.
>
>They were suffering from a type of emphysema you would
>not, in a million years, expect to see in someone in
>their 20s or 30s - even if they were a cigarette
>smoker,' he said. 'You would not expect to see lungs
>like these until a smoker was about 60.
>
>'When I questioned them, they all admitted to having
>smoked cannabis for about eight to ten years. It was
>very disturbing.'
>
>He added: 'Particularly worrying is that one or two
>said they smoked only a couple of times a week.'
>
>Because healthy people can also suffer collapsed lungs
>for no obvious medical reason, Prof Henry thinks
>hundreds of cannabis-induced cases are being
>overlooked.
>
>In a speech last night to the Royal Society of
>Medicine, he warned of the dangers of greater
>tolerance.
>
>'It could lead to thousands of young adults being
>damaged for life before they are middle-aged,' said
>Prof Henry, based at St Mary's Hospital in Paddington,
>West London.
>
>'People ought to be warned. With cannabis you can
>damage your lungs in about 25 per cent of the time it
>takes if you use tobacco.'
>
>Anybody know?
Subject: ? new to this site


Author:
MJ
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Date Posted: 20:46:11 04/04/03 Fri

Well, It's about 11 at night and for about a week I have been going crazy. I have been smoking pot every night for about 7 years. It started socially and then became a habbit. I am in a new relationship with a wonderful man who believe it or not doesn't smoke pot. Well when we first started dating, he would get us a bag here and there, but now that he has moved in with me, he has realized how addicted I am to it, and thinks I should quit. Well I have wanted to quit for about a year, but didn't have the strength to. Well ofcourse for about a week we have been fighting and it sucks. I have gone from being happy about it, to angry about it. I also know that I need to quit because within the past 2 years I have been getting panic attacks. Which I have done research and yes it can bring this on. I really want to stick to this but it is hard. I am tryng to look at the positive side. Like maybe I will loose the 30 pounds that I have gained from pigging out every night. But at night I get bored and frankly cigs taste like shit. I know I am rambling but what I want to know is how do you deal with the friends that you have had for years, that still do smoke pot. I am depressed about that. And I am to chicken shit to tell them I have quit for good. I am scared to be around them because I know if they roll one up, I will smoke it. And I hope that the craving will go away soon. I am sorry I am rambling. This is the first time that I have ever posted a message board. It's so sad that I don't know what to do if I am not smoking pot, does anyone know when the enjoyment of real life will come ba
[> Subject: Re: new to this site


Author:
THE MOD
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Date Posted: 18:24:39 04/06/03 Sun

>This is
>the first time that I have ever posted a message
>board.

And you smoke(smoked?) pot and you just happened to come to THIS webite? Right. Who/what is the person/website that refers all you pot smokers here anyway? This is a website for general depression, there's no mention of "marijuanna" anywhere in the desciption of this board. Just curious.
Subject: New online forum


Author:
Alex Gibson
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Date Posted: 04:16:30 04/01/03 Tue

Hello,

I would like to welcome everyone to a new online forum. Membership is free. Articles are provided. There is also a Online counselling service.

http://www.onlinecounsellingnsw.com

Alex Gibson
Subject: yeah, and it makes you have babies too


Author:
Marco
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Date Posted: 01:04:25 03/19/03 Wed

hello??? marijuanna has helped my depression by making me more social and giving me positive energy.
im so sick of the put downs!
my wife isnt plopping out kids and i never owned a firearm so all you anti pot assholes put down you beer, guns and bullshit and open your minds!!!
LEGALIZE!!!
[> Subject: Re: yeah, and it makes you have babies too


Author:
aggrophile
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Date Posted: 21:54:16 03/25/03 Tue

>hello??? marijuanna has helped my depression by making
>me more social and giving me positive energy.
>im so sick of the put downs!
>my wife isnt plopping out kids and i never owned a
>firearm so all you anti pot assholes put down you
>beer, guns and bullshit and open your minds!!!
>LEGALIZE!!!

I never owned a gun, quit drinking last year(on my own, no interventions), never been on welfare; I'm college educated, well-read, living in a nice house(in Minnesota--NOT a trailer park in Alabama), I don't belong to a Southern Baptist(or any) church nor do I attend church, I'm not a white supremacist, I'm plenty open-minded and I'm not an asshole(you are).
Subject: re:marijuana does cause depression.


Author:
Davina Vitalis
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Date Posted: 07:56:10 03/24/03 Mon

I am kinda replying to the Hottie chick. she says that pot doesnt make you depressed, but she is depressed when she is out of pot. She just sounded like an addict to me because that is how an alchoholic sounds. if they are out of alcohol then they get depressed and go and try to find some more. but she needs to think about what she is saying before she says anything because pot can cause depression and anyone who says different is wrong. and I have smoked pot for 4 going on 5 years myself. so I know what I am talking about.
Subject: 15 YEAR EX-WEED SMOKER


Author:
Ex weed smoker
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Date Posted: 19:17:21 03/19/03 Wed

I'm 32 years old, smoked weed for 15 years, started to cut down on it 3 months ago because i was moving abroad and knew i wouldn't be able to get any. I've been without for 1 week now.Last month i was on half a joint a day, month before 1 joint a day, month before 2 joints a day. Believe me, if you think weed isn't bad for you, try cutting down and giving it up. The nightmares and depression and fits of anger and sadness i've been through for the last 3 months have been unreal. I couldn't get a grip on life, right now my brain is up and down, but i'm starting to accept the fact that the weed changed the way my brain thought for all these years. It will take a few months probably to get right again, but i was one of those people who used to say "its not addictive" "its a peace drug man" it sure was a peace drug when i was high, but when i quit, it was anything but. There is no way i could have given up if i hadnt moved to another country (which i have done 3 months ago) and now i cant get it. Otherwise i would still be smoking it and pretending everything was ok (when it isn't)i do have a better memory now, and i feel more together, but im still in the stages of up and down depression. Try cutting down slowly if you stop. I will never smoke it again man (and it used to be my life at one time)
think about it..
ex weed veteran
[> Subject: Re: 15 YEAR EX-WEED SMOKER


Author:
Smokey
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Date Posted: 11:41:28 03/23/03 Sun

>I'm 32 years old, smoked weed for 15 years, started to
>cut down on it 3 months ago because i was moving
>abroad and knew i wouldn't be able to get any. I've
>been without for 1 week now.Last month i was on half a
>joint a day, month before 1 joint a day, month before
>2 joints a day. Believe me, if you think weed isn't
>bad for you, try cutting down and giving it up. The
>nightmares and depression and fits of anger and
>sadness i've been through for the last 3 months have
>been unreal. I couldn't get a grip on life, right now
>my brain is up and down, but i'm starting to accept
>the fact that the weed changed the way my brain
>thought for all these years. It will take a few months
>probably to get right again, but i was one of those
>people who used to say "its not addictive" "its a
>peace drug man" it sure was a peace drug when i was
>high, but when i quit, it was anything but. There is
>no way i could have given up if i hadnt moved to
>another country (which i have done 3 months ago) and
>now i cant get it. Otherwise i would still be smoking
>it and pretending everything was ok (when it isn't)i
>do have a better memory now, and i feel more together,
>but im still in the stages of up and down depression.
>Try cutting down slowly if you stop. I will never
>smoke it again man (and it used to be my life at one
>time)
>think about it..
>ex weed veteran


I just read the ex week veteran's message. I am almost 25 and have been smoking daily for 8 years, and trying to quit weed since I graduated college 3 years ago. I have been experiencing the same nightmares and depression you mentioned. I recently lost the girl of my dreams due to an angry fit over the phone. I don't know what to do to restore my sanity. I hope it gets better.
Subject: am i depressed


Author:
diane
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Date Posted: 17:16:44 03/19/03 Wed

Well..for the past couple months i havent been living my normal life. I havent been happy and gave up the sport i most enjoyed. I dont have any good friends they seemed to have all back stabbed me. At school and everywhere else i put on a "show" to make everyone believe that i am a happy person, but on the inside im sad and on my own time i cry, a lot. My mom is suggesting that i see a doctor. These feeling have been goin on for months. If anyone has ever felt this way please give me some advice.
Subject: this is way out of hand


Author:
Marco
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Date Posted: 01:27:46 03/19/03 Wed

first of all.. i've never owned a gun, my wife isnt pregnant, i dont carelessly babble at a drive thru window and run over children on bikes, i dont know some guy who knows some guy who knows some dude who killed people in third world countries!

im a pot smoker.. i am proud.. And marijuanna CURED my depression when "legal" multi-billion dollar drugs could not!

LEGALIZE and dont be a propaganda puppet!
Subject: *!* Important News on Aging


Author:
Dr. Don Johnson
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Date Posted: 02:27:34 03/15/03 Sat

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Subject: You all need spelling lessons, you morons!


Author:
Nurse XOX
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Date Posted: 14:28:19 03/02/03 Sun

Marijuana (yes, that's the way to spell it!) Has been shown to be cancer causing and can also cause birth defects and/or low birth weight babies when smoked during pregnancy. Don't believe me? Well, the most respected medical journal in the world - the lancet - will tell you. Just visit their web site. In fact, smoking pot has been shown to have more toxic effects on the lungs that does smoking tobacco.

Pot can turn you into a person that isolates (withdraw from others) and generally makes you lethargic and unmotivated. It also slows down your reaction time and numbs all of your feeling. And let's not forget to mention the dampening effect it has on your memory! So, yes it does depress your brain and body. And no one is sure that any of this "brain damage" is revresible even after the drug has cleared your system. Not to mention the effect it has on your pocket book.

Have you ever been through withdrawal or looked after anyone experiencing withdrawal. I have. It is hellish.

I am not anti-pot, or a hypocrit just realistic. I think that all of it should be make illegal - alcohol, tobacco and pot. They are all desctructive and/or lead to destruction. That's my opinion and I don't expect you to agree with or. Frankly I don't give a shit if you don't. Just grow up and keep you your profanities to yourself.
[> Subject: Re: You all need spelling lessons, you morons!


Author:
Xs
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Date Posted: 14:32:20 03/02/03 Sun

>Marijuana (yes, that's the way to spell it!) has been
>shown to be cancer causing and can also cause birth
>defects and/or low birth weight babies when smoked
>during pregnancy. Don't believe me? Well, the most
>respected medical journal in the world - The Lancet -
>will tell you. Just visit their web site. In fact,
>smoking pot has been shown to have more toxic effects
>on the lungs that does smoking tobacco.
>
>Pot can turn you into a person that isolates (withdraw
>from others) and generally makes you lethargic and
>unmotivated. It also slows down your reaction time and
>numbs all of your feeling. And let's not forget to
>mention the dampening effect it has on your memory!
>So, yes it does depress your brain and body. And no
>one is sure that any of this "brain damage" is
>reversible even after the drug has cleared your
>system (and this can take months, since THC is fat and not water soluble). Not to mention the effect it has on your
>pocket book.
>
>Have you ever been through withdrawal or looked after
>anyone experiencing withdrawal. I have experiencced both. It is hellish.
>
>I am not anti-pot, or a hypocrit just realistic. I
>think that all of it should be make illegal - alcohol,
>tobacco and pot. They are all desctructive and/or
>lead to destruction. That's my opinion and I don't
>expect you to agree with it. Frankly I don't give a
>@#%$ if you don't. Just grow up and keep you your
>profanities to yourself.
[> [> Subject: Re: You all need spelling lessons, you morons!


Author:
ReV_ThC
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Date Posted: 02:00:55 03/03/03 Mon

>>Marijuana (yes, that's the way to spell it!) has been
>>shown to be cancer causing and can also cause birth
>>defects and/or low birth weight babies when smoked
>>during pregnancy. Don't believe me? Well, the most
>>respected medical journal in the world - The Lancet -
>>will tell you. Just visit their web site. In fact,
>>smoking pot has been shown to have more toxic effects
>>on the lungs that does smoking tobacco.
>>
>>Pot can turn you into a person that isolates (withdraw
>>from others) and generally makes you lethargic and
>>unmotivated. It also slows down your reaction time and
>>numbs all of your feeling. And let's not forget to
>>mention the dampening effect it has on your memory!
>>So, yes it does depress your brain and body. And no
>>one is sure that any of this "brain damage" is
>>reversible even after the drug has cleared your
>>system (and this can take months, since THC is fat
>and not water soluble). Not to mention the effect it
>has on your
>>pocket book.
>>
>>Have you ever been through withdrawal or looked after
>>anyone experiencing withdrawal. I have experiencced
>both. It is hellish.
>>
>>I am not anti-pot, or a hypocrit just realistic. I
>>think that all of it should be make illegal - alcohol,
>>tobacco and pot. They are all desctructive and/or
>>lead to destruction. That's my opinion and I don't
>>expect you to agree with it. Frankly I don't give a
>>@#%$ if you don't. Just grow up and keep you your
>>profanities to yourself.
Shut the fuck up i have smoked it since i was 10 now im 27 i graduated with a 3.0 av. so don't tell me that weed is bad it is all good believe me if GOD would've never made it our lives would be FUCT!!!
Subject: :~( Why all the profanity


Author:
Joe
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Date Posted: 21:24:33 08/15/02 Thu

I don`t understand why the profanity; either you are trying to get attention, or you where drop on your head.
What make`s this country great is freedom of choice.
If it wasn`t for politics, marijunna would be legalize.
Cigaretts are bad ,Coffee,Alcohol are worst.
That is satistically speaking.
As far as people abusing the system for rehab,thats ok,
that`s why is there.
So you yourself should take avantage of the system, because at this point you are mentally disturb.
[> Subject: Re: Why all the profanity


Author:
BLAH
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Date Posted: 01:07:26 08/16/02 Fri

>I don`t understand why the profanity; either you are
>trying to get attention, or you where drop on your
>head.

>So you yourself should take avantage of the system,
>because at this point you are mentally disturb.

And you can't spell. Fuck off.
[> [> Subject: Re: Why all the profanity


Author:
d
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Date Posted: 12:50:13 02/28/03 Fri

Hey dumbTwat

You obviously have no command of the English language either.

Its 'or you were dropped on your head' and 'mentally disturbed'

Maybe you should try a few swear words and you might make more sense, you dumb fucking cunt!!!

XX

>>I don`t understand why the profanity; either you are
>>trying to get attention, or you where drop on your
>>head.
>
>>So you yourself should take avantage of the system,
>>because at this point you are mentally disturb.
>
>And you can't spell. Fuck off.
[> Subject: Re: Why all the profanity


Author:
)(&%*&%$ROI
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Date Posted: 02:03:12 08/16/02 Fri

>I don`t understand why the profanity; either you are
>trying to get attention, or you where drop on your
>head.
>What make`s this country great is freedom of choice.
>If it wasn`t for politics, marijunna would be legalize.
>Cigaretts are bad ,Coffee,Alcohol are worst.
>That is satistically speaking.
>As far as people abusing the system for rehab,thats ok,
>that`s why is there.
>So you yourself should take avantage of the system,
>because at this point you are mentally disturb.

I bet the majority of you potsuckers drink also(I went to college and saw it firsthand, so don't give me lip), and even if you don't, then why can't you just go and advocate pot legalization without having to demonize alchohol and alchohol users, because that's just you showing everyone that you're a pea-brained fucking hypocrate(oh silly me, that's just what all you teenybopping yuppie-spawn asswipes are...). You preach "open-mindedness" and all that bullshit, then you say "alchohol should be banned" and other ignorant shit. Take a fuckin' cue from yourself for once, otherwise FUCK OFF and leave me alone!
Subject: ROY's thing bout mary jane


Author:
YOUR BITCH
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Date Posted: 09:41:04 02/19/03 Wed

ROY YOU ARE FUCKING GAY MJ IS COOL STUPID LOSER GO FUCK A GIRL
Subject: Married and Cheating


Author:
Kelleigh
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Date Posted: 07:54:38 02/18/03 Tue

I am 31 years old and have been married for 9 years. I have a wonderful 5 year old daughter with my husband. I started a new job a year and a half ago. A couple of months after I got hired this guy got hired also. At first we just talked and laughed a little about things. I thought nothing of him. Then a couple of months went by and I felt stronger and stronger. Obviously he felt the same. We were both having some marital trouble. I still love my husband, but he doesn't think he loves his wife anymore. I had to take him home from work one night because we worked over and noone else lives the way we were going and the next thing I new he leaned over and kissed me and started fondling me. I let him for some reason. I was nervous and shaky and he kept saying it was okay and he was sorry. I took him home. The next day when I seen him that was all I thought about. I started wanting to do it again. I wanted more. A couple of nights later...we met again. We both attacked each other like we lusted forever! He tells me he loves me..as do I. It has been going on for almost a year. It has slowed down the past couple of months because we are on different shifts at work. I meet him whenever we get the chance. We went from October to February not doing it at all. But when I seen him he told me he wanted me and I even had phone sex a couple of times. He tells me I am the one he should have married and why did I meet him 10 yrs too late. He has a son and doesn't want to take a chance on losing him and everything else because of his crazy wife. She cusses him for no reason. She is on disability and spends her check and his money like crazy. He owes a ton of bills because of her. He told me if he had no children he would have left to be with me already. I want him but I don't want to hurt my husband like that and definately not my daughter. I am so confused. All I know is that when I am with him he listens to me, cares for me, loves me, makes me laugh terribly and makes me feel like more like a woman than anyone has ever made me feel. The sex is wonderful. He can make me get off 3 times! My husband doesn't even try for one...he just cares about himself. HELP!
Subject: *!* MARIJUANA can it be combined with EFFEXOR?


Author:
Joe Cooper
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Date Posted: 13:48:22 02/14/03 Fri

Hey everyone who reads this post.
I have recently seen my doctor to tell her about the sever heart rate lapses i have been experienced due to anxiety. she prescribed me Effexor. howeveri know for a fact what is causing the anxiety and increased heart rate = I smoke to much pot. it has been roughly 3 weeks since i sparked a joint and now and then i crave to do it. but on the good side my heart rate is lowered and my anxiety has dropped. does anyone have any experiences with mixing marijuanan and Effexor, i am on a dose of 75 mg's daily. if you could write back that would be greatly appreciated.
Subject: Marijuanna causes depression


Author:
BirdyFly
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Date Posted: 09:09:29 02/11/03 Tue

Marijuanna must cause depression because why else do i feel so glum and somber? if i Quit it won't last long. How could i tell my doctor? Help!
Subject: same old same old


Author:
Jem
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Date Posted: 14:51:09 01/08/02 Tue

Do you ever fell like wherever you go there is an enormous, heavy weighted out to get you dark cloud looming over your head and no matter how hard you try to escape it still manages to catch you to make you fall and consume your very being to torment you in shear pain and the only person that can see it is you . Everyone around you is totally oblivious to it, to only leave you to conclude that you are the only one who can see it and therefore when you try tell people about it they just think that you have gone completely off the rails. Because when it rains, it rains hard and painful drop that are more like bullets made out of peircing ice rather then gentle dew drops.
Until one day the cloud becomes so oppressive that you have nothing to do except stand there and take it and watch it freeze you and break you. Thats kind of how I feel fight now, if anyone else does, I would really appreciate if they would let me know!
[> Subject: Re: same old same old


Author:
aggrophile
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Date Posted: 15:51:03 02/10/03 Mon

>Do you ever fell like wherever you go there is an
>enormous, heavy weighted out to get you dark cloud
>looming over your head and no matter how hard you try
>to escape it still manages to catch you to make you
>fall and consume your very being to torment you in
>shear pain and the only person that can see it is you
>. Everyone around you is totally oblivious to it, to
>only leave you to conclude that you are the only one
>who can see it and therefore when you try tell people
>about it they just think that you have gone completely
>off the rails. Because when it rains, it rains hard
>and painful drop that are more like bullets made out
>of peircing ice rather then gentle dew drops.
>Until one day the cloud becomes so oppressive that you
>have nothing to do except stand there and take it and
>watch it freeze you and break you. Thats kind of how
>I feel fight now, if anyone else does, I would really
>appreciate if they would let me know!

That "broken" feeling, you may have already realized, if played right, can feel like a welcome calm...that feeling when there's nothing more to lose and so nothing else matters. I felt I reached that "breaking point" in April of last year(2002) when I got off propecia, a drug I'd taken for 4 years to try and prevent hair loss(a vanity, I know, plus it messed me up emotionally). Suddenly a very stark reality had hit me & it felt scarier than anything. Once there, nothing stayed the same. Drinking wasn't 1/10th as fun(although that's good since I consumed less & did it much less frequently, and now I've been off 2 1/2 months and since then I realized I can still enjoy my music, for instance, just as much as when "buzzed", but just not as often(which is also good, since that's just a time-waster anyways).
I also researched mental health drugs, finding nothing, but I learned that vitamin B6 can actually make you feel good(something with aftering the tryptophan(dopamine?) in your nervous system before it enters your brain, or something like that, I'm not certain). Also I decided to study medical journals on the effects of alcohol(I did this all from home) and learned that alcohol kills off B6 in the body, depleting your immune system, which is why it ruins your liver, kidneys, increases one's cancer likelihood times 4, kills your pancreas, T-cells, kills testosterone(which destroys muscle mass for guys), and in extreme cases, causes osteoporosis and strokes, and then death of course. I looked at all that and finally realized all the drinking was working 100% against what I was trying to accomplish for myself, and the last thing I was about to do was become a helpless charity case for Big Brother(federal govt.), relinquishing control and losing out on all the freedom and autonomy which I sadly taken for granted when I was in a confused emotional state with propecia & alcohol. I find my strength within and occasionally thru alternative music(Beck's "Lost Cause" is basically who I am right now: depressed, but in a calm way). If anything, maybe just a long drive every couple months is all that's needed.
Subject: (!) Depression and Smoking Marijuanna


Author:
Sandra
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Date Posted: 07:02:10 02/08/03 Sat

I have suffered from depression since my early 20s and I never had smoked marijuanna up until about 3 years ago. Depression runs in my family. Anyway - I started smoking weed when I was 35 years old. I also suffer from migraine headaches etc., linked to the depression. I have read every book out there on depression and saw a lot of doctors and it is apparently a chemical imbalance. I took a lot of different medications - all the popular ones, prozac, zoloft, paxil, a few others I cannot remember - they would work for a while - but the side effects were atrocious - I would lose a lot of weight, shake, have trouble sleeping, sexual problems etc. - then I took Wellbutrin and that helped that - but anyway - I heard on the news that a lot of these meds are now found to be linked to breast cancer and can increase breast cancer by up to 50% - so I stopped taking them - and I only smoke weed now. Which was a difficult choice for me because I am a rather conservative Christian and I don't like to use the marijuanna because of all the moral implications. BUT, BUT, - I can now function! No more headaches. None - once in a while I will still get a migraine. I smoke everyday. I have a small boy and that is what bothers me the most. He has no idea I smoke - I don't do it when he is in the house. I do not believe it is a drug young people should be doing. I think it should only be for adults who have control of or can control their habits, but as someone said in one of the other messages - better NOT to try it if you DO NOT NEED it. I stayed away from drugs my whole life - until my husband got some to try for relief of my headaches. I often want to quit because it is expensive and I hate to spend $$s on it - but I would not be able to work without it. I have gone from taking way too many painkillers for my head, sleeping all day from the side effects of painkillers, anti-depressants, etc. - to getting up early, going and having my smoke - and functioning well. DEPRESSION is one of the toughest illnesses there is out there to treat - Good luck everyone - ultimately I would like to quit and develop myself more from the inside out and maybe that is the answer to all our depressions. I am going to add a short list of books that will help those with depression: "The Feeling Good Handbook", by Dr. Burns, "Life Journal" by Cheryl Richardson - this book is a workbook for your life - sometimes we are depressed because we just don't like our lives or there is something missing. Often it is a spiritual void - the Bible can always be a good help there - (if you find it hard to understand - just say a prayer for guidance - it always worked for me)- If you have $$ problems "Your Money or Your Life" is a good book too by: Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin (great for simplifying your life) - "Notes on How to Live in the World and Still Be Happy" by Hugh Prather, great book! The "Artists Way" as well is great. Be Pro-Active!
Subject: :~( when depression takes you over


Author:
Maria H. Rivas
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Date Posted: 16:44:19 11/03/02 Sun

I mwas always shy and quiet and took emotional abuse from my family. Then from my son then from my new husband. When I started fighting back they didn't know what i was talking about. Called me crazy and it added to my depdression thinking that they all couldn't be wrong. But they were. I took the abuse for so long without fihting back that they didn'y even know thaat they had abused me and dissmiss my feelings and pay no attention to me. I am so angry. I am so alone because they all walked away from me when I rebeled. I feel like a bad person. I feel it must be me making me even more depressed. I know I should go out and not stay home alone feeling bad. But I put it off and next thing you know it's too late. I work hard to support myself. After years of supporting my son alone. And feel like even though they abused me and still do I had a family and husband. But they make me crazy. When depression makes me want to be alone and it's a quieet feeling not crazy. But still apart from everything and everyone. I have recently separated frrrom my husband. Finally got the nerve to do this. But can't find joy. I feel empty and wonder what is my purpose. So may people left me. When I rebeled nobdy liked it or me anymore and they all left me instead of changing there ways towards me. I feel like crying all the time and don't know why. I want to be happy again. Just to get the desire to go somewhere and be around people.
But how. It's so hard. Maria
[> Subject: Re: when depression takes you over


Author:
CCK
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Date Posted: 17:57:15 02/03/03 Mon

I have been through something very similar, I know it's hard when you're taking emotional abuse for years from the people you most love and trust, you can't help but to start believing the cruel things they say about you it tears down you strength, you feel weak for staying and taking it or you feel guilty leaving. It's so hard. Know this, it's says so much about you that you removed yourself finally from this terrible situation, you've done so many positive things, you're on you own and supporting yourself, remind yourself how far you've come and don't go back. Try taking small steps, like pick one night a week to take a class in something you're interested in where you'll meet some new more positive people, like a yoga class or a book club or maybe a church group or learn something new it will help you rebuild your self esteem, you deserve to be treated well and with respect promise yourself you'll never let anyone treat you badly again. See your family on the condition they control themselves and if they can't distance yourself and realize that once they see you can live your life without them moving on making new friends... maybe they'll begin to look at themselves and make some progress on their own.
Take care of yourself, just make a small step all the time but all the time forward. There are good people out there who'll help. Hang in there.
Subject: *!* I need help


Author:
Kate
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Date Posted: 12:15:15 01/17/03 Fri

I have a problem with my rommate. She is depressed and has been diagnosed with ADD and manic Depressive. She was taking medication for quit awhile and doing very well. Now she does not take it. She has stoped eating and I can tell that she is very malnurished. Her skin as a tint of green and she is very pale. She also is losing quite a bit of her hair. She sleeps from 4am to 12pm. She work about 55 hours a week and gets so tense. How do I convince her that she is going to die if she doesn't get any help? You can e-mail me at Katieones@hotmail.com. Kate
[> Subject: Re: I need help


Author:
james
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Date Posted: 15:31:04 01/26/03 Sun

The same thing had happened to a friend of mine (although it did not get so bad that she lost her hair). Call her parents, if they are around, not to make them worry but to have them talk to her about getting help. Call her doctor maybe...she might need to go back on the medication.

The medication can cause problems of its own, however.

Either way, its not your responsability to help her, its her own...however it is your choice as a friend to help her as much as you want/can.

Good luck with everything, really...
Subject: marijuanna


Author:
mary J
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Date Posted: 12:41:16 01/22/03 Wed

marijuanna isn't as bad as everybody states it to be. Its calming and relaxing. Unlike beer, you can maintain your self and not start acting different. I don't think it causes depression!! Thats "your" own problem, if your depressed!
Subject: Rebuttle


Author:
does it really matter
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Date Posted: 14:16:50 10/21/02 Mon

I don't know you and you don't know me, but who the hell do you are judging those who do smoke bud? For your information marijuana may be a depressent, but it does not make you that way.Peple are depressed all the time for all sorts of reasons, but to pass judgement on someone who is depressed makes you petty and small. For your information I smoke weed everyday, I also hold a full time job, pay my rent and bills every month, and manage to go to school. So weed does not make you any which way. If people are lazy thats who they are, don't blame pot because thats just making excuses for the people to be lazy. So next time you want to attack lazy trailer trash thats just fine, but attack the people not their recreational activities.Not you or anyone else can call me a lazy stoner, a stoner maybe, but I handle my business just fine.So who has the right to tell me it's wrong? It's my life, noone elses, I make a decsion I live with it. So you can Kiss my Irish ASS!!!!

pot head forever
[> Subject: Re: Rebuttle


Author:
x head
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Date Posted: 10:48:38 01/22/03 Wed

> I don't know you and you don't know me, but who the
>hell do you are judging those who do smoke bud? For
>your information marijuana may be a depressent, but it
>does not make you that way.Peple are depressed all the
>time for all sorts of reasons, but to pass judgement
>on someone who is depressed makes you petty and small.
>For your information I smoke weed everyday, I also
>hold a full time job, pay my rent and bills every
>month, and manage to go to school. So weed does not
>make you any which way. If people are lazy thats who
>they are, don't blame pot because thats just making
>excuses for the people to be lazy. So next time you
>want to attack lazy trailer trash thats just fine, but
>attack the people not their recreational
>activities.Not you or anyone else can call me a lazy
>stoner, a stoner maybe, but I handle my business just
>fine.So who has the right to tell me it's wrong? It's
>my life, noone elses, I make a decsion I live with it.
>So you can Kiss my Irish ASS!!!!
>
> pot head forever
Quit sokeing for a month or so then tell me you are not depressed. You are to high to know. What are your sources for your conclusion?
Subject: MARRIED AND CHEATING


Author:
lonely and confused
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Date Posted: 15:44:22 09/17/02 Tue

well heres my story, im married at 22, with a little girl. im confused right now because ive been cheating on my husband the whole time weve been married but it was because once we got married he decided to go out and be with his brothers out late. So i got tired of that i went out on my own, so when i would go out i would kiss other guys, but not sleep with them, ever. So anyways, then i met this guy from greece on the chat room, i wasnt that interested in him because i didnt trust people on chat, but we got to know each other more and then he came to california and we met and i fell in love with him. But now i dont know what to do, because my parents are butting in calling me names, saying that im ruining my daughters life and so forth. My husband is now wanting to change for me and for our family but i really want a new life and start all over, because i hate other people butting in. Anyways, my question is if i am doing wrong by wanting to change my life and start all over and live far away from my family as possible, and if i am ruining my daughters life. I need an answer im desperate and confused.
[> Subject: Re: MARRIED AND CHEATING


Author:
married and happy
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Date Posted: 23:55:05 10/24/02 Thu

Remember you made a commitment when you said your vows at your wedding. I think too many people are too ready to just divorce. Then bring poor inocent children into the picture. and one more thing.....these other people aren't butting in....they are your family now...so deal with it >:-(
There's absolutly nothing to be confused about.
By the way why didn't you get to know his family too.
And don't believe that this guy from greece is some really nice person. YOU REALLY NEVER KNOW THESE DAYS.
You will be ruining your daughters life and yours if you break up a family. :~(
Go get some marriage counsiling....some thing any thing


>well heres my story, im married at 22, with a little
>girl. im confused right now because ive been cheating
>on my husband the whole time weve been married but it
>was because once we got married he decided to go out
>and be with his brothers out late. So i got tired of
>that i went out on my own, so when i would go out i
>would kiss other guys, but not sleep with them, ever.
>So anyways, then i met this guy from greece on the
>chat room, i wasnt that interested in him because i
>didnt trust people on chat, but we got to know each
>other more and then he came to california and we met
>and i fell in love with him. But now i dont know what
>to do, because my parents are butting in calling me
>names, saying that im ruining my daughters life and so
>forth. My husband is now wanting to change for me and
>for our family but i really want a new life and start
>all over, because i hate other people butting in.
>Anyways, my question is if i am doing wrong by wanting
>to change my life and start all over and live far away
>from my family as possible, and if i am ruining my
>daughters life. I need an answer im desperate and
>confused.
[> Subject: Re: MARRIED AND CHEATING


Author:
Sarah JOnes
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Date Posted: 16:47:56 10/25/02 Fri

>Dont go to a head doctor none of them in the United States to talk about dont let them see it on the web for gods sake pscyhopaths, HrS sherriffs and cops get an attitude with you like its a crime or something. Dont post it here. If he went out follow him your husband maybe he is going to see a girl with his buddies maybe not. These men a lot of them dont respect anyones family unit or wife, police especially I mean nobody sexually. They shouldnt have approached you a mom with a child at all. Ilegal to do this. some guy to decide to end someone elses marriage and force himself on a married women with kids. Dont go there to any head doctor over this.

This includes counselling centers anyoen i the phone book social workers, include the police corrections jails and prisons mess you up all a lure for somthing else rape ya
[> Subject: Re: MARRIED AND CHEATING


Author:
Sarah JOnes
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Date Posted: 16:48:57 10/25/02 Fri

>Dont go to a head doctor none of them in the United States to talk about dont let them see it on the web for gods sake pscyhopaths, HrS sherriffs and cops get an attitude with you like its a crime or something. Dont post it here. If he went out follow him your husband maybe he is going to see a girl with his buddies maybe not. These men a lot of them dont respect anyones family unit or wife, police especially I mean nobody sexually. They shouldnt have approached you a mom with a child at all. Ilegal to do this. some guy to decide to end someone elses marriage and force himself on a married women with kids. Dont go there to any head doctor over this. I wouldnt talk to my relatives either they should be helpingyou finish college. Church is good.

This includes counselling centers anyoen i the phone book social workers, include the police corrections jails and prisons mess you up all a lure for somthing else rape ya
[> Subject: >:-( Re: MARRIED AND CHEATING


Author:
mary
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Date Posted: 11:08:21 11/20/02 Wed

This is my story i was with my husband for 4 years we recently separated because he had a drinking promblem. barely i found out he was cheating on me for 2 months with a sluth from a bar. I was raged because i felt stupid because i didn't see the signs. But i know one thing i will never go back with him. just the thought of him kissing me or touching me makes me feel disgusted. The problem is i have two kids with him and i don't know what to do and handle the situation as a real woman. I need tips in to manage my anger towards him.
[> Subject: Re: MARRIED AND CHEATING


Author:
jim
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Date Posted: 20:20:31 11/27/02 Wed

>Ten years from now you will regret messing up the most precious thing in your life - your children - over a selfish, immature desire that will likely go bad wrong
[> Subject: >:-( Re: MARRIED AND CHEATING


Author:
darrellmoore
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Date Posted: 07:29:16 01/14/03 Tue

You need to think how your daughter is going to feel when she is pulled so far away from her father. How dare you be so selfish that you would risk keeping her so far away from her father. What kind of person is it that goes out and "Kisses other guys all the time" while they are married to another man. If you want this so bad than give full custody to him and you deal with the long distance relationship with your daughter!
Subject: :~( Just need an listening ear...


Author:
Agnes
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Date Posted: 09:09:19 01/04/03 Sat

Hi all, just feel like need a chat. I am 27 y.o. just got married for 3 months to a very good and responsible man in the world. We love each other much and things are just fine. However I recently met an expatriate guy working in my country here, he's a friend of my husband. Also a very good man. I think I am very drawn by him, I like him so much that I feel like going to the teens time that I'd dream of dating with him. I reaslised this is wrong and I know very well that I will stop and never take my marriage for granted, I want to remain a faithful Christian. But this secret is very hard to keep, I can't talk to anyone...I just feel sad, why me? Why must I meet all these good men... I know I must not let the feeling grows but I am suffering... Thanks for listening.
Subject: potheads


Author:
pear
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Date Posted: 08:21:06 11/23/02 Sat

dumb ass pot heads like you know nothing of the real world and what goes on there if it were for fools like you there would be no free world........you probably would have left hitler to do his dirty work because you were too f...... stupid and stoned, go smoke another one genius and tell us how you see things .........rock and roll jerk off
Subject: Real advice.


Author:
Zarathrustra
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Date Posted: 20:24:27 11/12/02 Tue

Friends.
If you smoke more than thrice a week, STOP NOW.
If you drink more than twice a week, Stop NOW.
If you do any other drugs more than a few times a year, STOP NOW!!!
In combination, drugs distill the heroic from the quasi-heroic... drugs rescue the man from epicinity... drugs prepare for the trancendence of humanity in the quasi-Quasi-man... if this is not clear to you, have not partaken of proper drugs.
Subject: Dear pot heads:


Author:
u think i'm scared?
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Date Posted: 20:22:32 11/10/02 Sun

Whenever I glance at this site every so often and witness for myself just how arrogant, insulting, vulgar, rude, bottom-dwelling, repulsive and just plain STUPID the vast(and I mean VAST) majority of you are, the more I'm overjoyed by the fact that pot is, and always will be, illegal in America. Decades of hard labor is what each and every one of you nonfactors deserve.
Subject: I can't believe this...


Author:
glad to be me
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Date Posted: 19:36:55 11/10/02 Sun

Is this a depression board or not? I see some of you have some serious questions and concerns and that's all fine and good, but alot of you are just being complete and utter STUPID assholes. I've been holding my silence all year, seeing all the dopers here bitching about being "persecuted" by other posters(um, WHO exactly? Oh silly me, you can have opinions but NOT US!) and claiming that marijuana has NO side effects, and that the reason for that is it's "all natural", not "man-made" like "that EVIL alcohol"? Please. I suppose then, extending your logic, that eating poison mushrooms is A-ok as well, since those also come naturally(am I making it any clearly now? Are you seeing just how FLAWED your thinking is, you preschooler-acting jerks?). Just because God puts things here doesn't mean we shouldn't try and discern whether certain things are good or not by using our own intelligence(do you have any?); and as far as all this "man vs. nature" shit, we are NOT seperate from nature. I repeat, we are NOT seperate from nature! Everything on this earth(including us and the way we do things)is natural, just like the computers(also made from earth materials) that all you holier-than-thou, granola bar chomping dolts shit your pants at each day trying to excuse yourselves from your own IMMENSE personal shortcomings(as seen by your nearly incomprehensable and UN-relevent pissing and moaning). Yes, alcohol will kill you in immoderation, but so will pot or pills, whether "man made" or not. So where do you people get off thinking pot should be legalized and alcohol banned, then? Lastly, and this is just a small observation, not saying this is telling in any way;), but most drinkers I've met in my lifetime(longer then alot of you)are a HELL of alot more polite, laid back, courteous, sensitive, intelligent, understanding, humble, respectful AND open-minded than just about EVERY goddamned one of you. Most of you can't even spell enough to even attempt an intelligable sentence, and even then it's always "fuck this!" or "shit that!" or "FUK you! this" or "Phukin' doctorz that!"... Why any of you brain dead apes think you deserve MY simpathy or unyeilding support for your ignorance is BEYOND me. Goodbye, idiots.
Subject: .......


Author:
fuck u
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Date Posted: 16:46:05 11/03/02 Sun

wut tha fuck is ur bitch ass problem!! soming pot or w/e tha fuck u wanna do with it doesn't make u depressed if it does get baked all da tyme!! so fuck yall kiss my as all u mo fuckas!!
Subject: >;-) hello


Author:
amber
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Date Posted: 13:17:59 10/31/02 Thu

hello an dit will not kill u if u smoke marijuanna it will fuck u up but teh only time it will kill is only if u smoke alot and i mean alot and alot of it trust me on dis one but ya it only makes u stupid an dit will kill u if u smoke alot of it but ya anyways i would know i smoke marijuanna
later ppl
Subject: ? 76 year old mother needs quadruple bypass surgery


Author:
carol
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Date Posted: 11:12:20 08/25/02 Sun

I wonder if anyone can help me my 76 year old mother has recently been told that she needs quadruple bypass surgery - we are very concerned as to how she will be after the operation mentally because as I see it the heart/lung machine causes a lot of mental difficiences and the surgeon at the Lahey Clinic in Burlington, Massachusetts has explained to us that she probably is not a candidate for off pump technique as she has had long standing high blood pressure and her heart probably has become thick and less pliable due to the high blood pressure. Other than having problems with her legs from reduced circulation she is in general good health. If there is anyone out there that has a mother or grandmother that has had a quadruple bypass I would like to hear how they feel after the operation. THanks. eramoca@aol.com
[> Subject: Re: 76 year old mother needs quadruple bypass surgery


Author:
Len Fisher
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Date Posted: 10:05:27 10/31/02 Thu

>My mother as well has had suggested to her that quadruple bypass is possibility at 82 years of age. Have you had any further feedback as to pros and cons of such a surgery.
Thanks,
Len onder if anyone can help me my 76 year old mother
>has recently been told that she needs quadruple bypass
>surgery - we are very concerned as to how she will be
>after the operation mentally because as I see it the
>heart/lung machine causes a lot of mental difficiences
>and the surgeon at the Lahey Clinic in Burlington,
>Massachusetts has explained to us that she probably is
>not a candidate for off pump technique as she has had
>long standing high blood pressure and her heart
>probably has become thick and less pliable due to the
>high blood pressure. Other than having problems with
>her legs from reduced circulation she is in general
>good health. If there is anyone out there that has a
>mother or grandmother that has had a quadruple bypass
>I would like to hear how they feel after the
>operation. THanks. eramoca@aol.com
Subject: Pot fucks you up


Author:
Chelsea
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Date Posted: 19:28:07 08/12/02 Mon

I smoke pot everyday and I used to enjoy it. I have realized that smoking pot can totally ruin your life. Most people think that it can't kill you or leave consequences, but it can. If you smoke pot you should get help while you can.
[> Subject: ? Re: Pot fucks you up


Author:
moff
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Date Posted: 16:35:39 10/29/02 Tue

>I smoke pot everyday and I used to enjoy it. I have
>realized that smoking pot can totally ruin your life.
>Most people think that it can't kill you or leave
>consequences, but it can. If you smoke pot you should
>get help while you can.
Subject: >;-) suicidal by nature?


Author:
lil
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Date Posted: 09:35:59 10/08/02 Tue

i was depressed eversince i was able to think reflectively. at the age of something like 12-13years i started to get obsessive with suicide-thoughts,and i know that i will die someday of my own hands; i dont mean to threaten anybody,im NOT typing this in some pathetic mood.im quite rational about the whole stuff. i just wondered if there's anybody out there who feels that depression and suicide is actually part of his inner self,and not caused by anything coming from the outside.i never suffered loss,im good in school,i have a good relationship with my parents,ihad several boyfriends,i look ok-well,there's just NOTHING that would be likely to lead me to such thoughts.
again:im not craving attention,im not threatening to kill myself, and im definitely not seeking moral advice or comments on how selfish i am or this kind of stuff.
i just want to know if there's anybody out there who feels like me.
bye
[> Subject: Re: suicidal by nature?


Author:
B
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Date Posted: 16:56:54 10/11/02 Fri

>Lil- I know just how you feel. Your not taking any meds are you? The nastiness of depression is that you begin to believe that how you are feeling is who you are. THIS IS ONE OF THE EVIL THINGS DEPRESSION DOES. It robs you of your true identity and makes you believe how you feel is wo you are. Get into a docter, be honest with them, and get on an antidepressant. My AD simpy helps me feel "normal", whatever that is. It eliminates the incredible lows and lets you feel your "real" feelings, good bad and ugly. but it is NOT NORMAL to always feel down. Only those with untreated depression feel that way all the time. I am successful, with great friends and family, but that does not mean anything. It is a chemical imbalance in your brain. Just like some people have to take insulin every day for their diabetes, depression is no different. The proper medication can help you a great deal. Suicide is not, and never will be a natural human emotion or action. Right now you are powereless over those feelings without help. Just like millions of others who are treating this illness with medicine. Good Luck.

i was depressed eversince i was able to think
>reflectively. at the age of something like 12-13years
>i started to get obsessive with suicide-thoughts,and i
>know that i will die someday of my own hands; i dont
>mean to threaten anybody,im NOT typing this in some
>pathetic mood.im quite rational about the whole stuff.
>i just wondered if there's anybody out there who
>feels that depression and suicide is actually part of
>his inner self,and not caused by anything coming from
>the outside.i never suffered loss,im good in school,i
>have a good relationship with my parents,ihad several
>boyfriends,i look ok-well,there's just NOTHING that
>would be likely to lead me to such thoughts.
>again:im not craving attention,im not threatening to
>kill myself, and im definitely not seeking moral
>advice or comments on how selfish i am or this kind of
>stuff.
>i just want to know if there's anybody out there who
>feels like me.
>bye
[> Subject: Re: suicidal by nature?


Author:
Kat
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Date Posted: 21:42:15 10/15/02 Tue

>i was depressed eversince i was able to think
>reflectively. at the age of something like 12-13years
>i started to get obsessive with suicide-thoughts,and i
>know that i will die someday of my own hands; i dont
>mean to threaten anybody,im NOT typing this in some
>pathetic mood.im quite rational about the whole stuff.
>i just wondered if there's anybody out there who
>feels that depression and suicide is actually part of
>his inner self,and not caused by anything coming from
>the outside.i never suffered loss,im good in school,i
>have a good relationship with my parents,ihad several
>boyfriends,i look ok-well,there's just NOTHING that
>would be likely to lead me to such thoughts.
>again:im not craving attention,im not threatening to
>kill myself, and im definitely not seeking moral
>advice or comments on how selfish i am or this kind of
>stuff.
>i just want to know if there's anybody out there who
>feels like me.
>bye
I think about suicide a lot, but not as much as I used to. Lately, I just think, all the trouble and fuss we make over everything, all the rules and the waste, it's all so rediculous. I wonder why we bother to keep getting up and repeating it everyday. When I think about suicide though, I just get angry because a big part of me says it's not okay to do and I would regret it as soon as I left my body and gained "all knowledge". Well, I think everybody thinks about suicide. Sometimes it helps to get away for a few days.
[> Subject: *!* Re: suicidal by nature?


Author:
pinky
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Date Posted: 19:43:31 10/28/02 Mon

>i think you peopl whine to muchSMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK 42024204204204204024020402422420240240240220420240 shut up and take out the bong bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!depressed eversince i was able to think
>reflectively. at the age of something like 12-13years
>i started to get obsessive with suicide-thoughts,and i
>know that i will die someday of my own hands; i dont
>mean to threaten anybody,im NOT typing this in some
>pathetic mood.im quite rational about the whole stuff.
>i just wondered if there's anybody out there who
>feels that depression and suicide is actually part of
>his inner self,and not caused by anything coming from
>the outside.i never suffered loss,im good in school,i
>have a good relationship with my parents,ihad several
>boyfriends,i look ok-well,there's just NOTHING that
>would be likely to lead me to such thoughts.
>again:im not craving attention,im not threatening to
>kill myself, and im definitely not seeking moral
>advice or comments on how selfish i am or this kind of
>stuff.
>i just want to know if there's anybody out there who
>feels like me.
>bye
Subject: up and down depression


Author:
Priscilla Bright
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Date Posted: 18:13:05 10/25/02 Fri

If you are up and down in your depression, and you are attracted to marijuana, you are probably mildly bipolar (manic-depressive illness, in the old jargon). We now recognize a range of manic depresion; many people have manic depressive illness but at a mild level, and it interferes with their functioning at a pretty significant level, altho not as badly as major bipolar illness.

At any rate, you need to tell the dr. that you are up and down, indicate any relatives that have had the same thing (if you can think of them-this is an inherited diesase) and tell how marijuana halps with this; it is common for people to try to control bipolar disorder with marijuana, even tho they do not know this is what they are doing. Something like Neurontin (a mood stabilizer)is quite mild and will control mood fluctuation with minimum side effects, and change your life; if you have mild bipolar disorder, and are on antidepressants, it will cause you a lot of distress, thus, actually making you smoke more. Antidepressants can make bipolar disorder worse when not accompanied by mood stabilizers.

If you are smoking all the time, it is because you are trying your hardest to control the difficult side effects of bipolar disorder, not because you are without will power. I wish you luck. Priscilla
Subject: Pot and Depression


Author:
B
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Date Posted: 16:38:36 10/11/02 Fri

I've been reading and reviewing all the messages on Pot and depression. Many are heartbreaking, and I've learned something from each. I'm 30, and have smoked pot off and on since college. I quit drinking 8 years ago and have never gone back, not once, due to my violent nature when I drank. I have struggled with severe depression since I was a teenager, battling suicidal thoughts on and off, but have managed to maintain relationships and stable employ for the most part. I have been taking Paxil and have found it to be effective for the most part, and my sex drive has stayed consistent. The Paxil has taken away the GIGANTIC highs and lows I used to experience and the suicidal thoughts with it. I love pot bc I never get irritated angry or upset when I smoke. It helps me unwind and gives me something to look forward to. But it kills my ambition, my drive to do ANYTHING above what is necessary in my personal life. I have an addictive personality by nature, and my marijuana use has exploded in the past year, as I have much more free time and often spend it smoking. I stopped a week ago and 2 days later I was irritable, with headaches, unable to sleep, loss of focus and concentration (more so than when I smoke), etc. Is this normal? I just put an order in for a bag bc I can't stand the way I feel today. My cigarette smoking is up to almost 1 pack a day to offset the loss of marijuana this past week, which is the most I've ever smoked. Am I crazy to believe that my Paxil/Pot combo actually helped treat my depression?? Do I have to make a choice between lethargy and feelings of frustration and anxiety (which the Paxil has not completely treated)? I feel there certainly are SOME benefits to that combo, based on the fact that during this period of heavy pot use the last 12 months I'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER in my personal life. But I just can't even out my consumption. 2 joints one day, 12 the next, but every day if it’s in the house. Is this just a combination of my personality and the addictiveness of any drug? I have smoked cigarettes for 10 years, but never like this. I saw the Eli Lilly commercial on TV recently regarding Bi-Polar disorder. Those of you with extreme depression should visit lilly.com and take the mood disorder profile survey. I have yet to speak to my physician about my score, but according to the survey I am bi-polar with flying colors. Who would have thunk it? I was half hoping they would say that marijuana is great for treating this problem, but somehow I doubt it. So, I guess where I am at is 1. Never been happier 2. Never smoked more (4 days a week at least)3. Not getting as much done as I used to 4. When I stop I feel like shit. Are these the trade offs we have to deal with?

I feel guilty about my use, more from a social perspective than anything-the stigma of being a pothead. I drive my buddies to the bars when we go out and they get smashed, but in societies mind I'm a stoner bc I relax with a couple of joints rather than beers. If I could drink safely I would, but I can't so I smoke. And if the 15 year old Steve that posted a while back is reading this, hang in there Brother. You have people that love you, and help is available. Talk to your school counselor or an adult you trust about your smoking and especially your feelings. BE HONEST with them. You may have a chemical imbalance that can be treated with medicine. You don't have to feel this way. Sorry to be so long winded but that's my two cents.
[> Subject: ? Re: Pot and Depression


Author:
Kat
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Date Posted: 21:34:26 10/15/02 Tue

>I've been reading and reviewing all the messages on
>Pot and depression. Many are heartbreaking, and I've
>learned something from each. I'm 30, and have smoked
>pot off and on since college. I quit drinking 8 years
>ago and have never gone back, not once, due to my
>violent nature when I drank. I have struggled with
>severe depression since I was a teenager, battling
>suicidal thoughts on and off, but have managed to
>maintain relationships and stable employ for the most
>part. I have been taking Paxil and have found it to
>be effective for the most part, and my sex drive has
>stayed consistent. The Paxil has taken away the
>GIGANTIC highs and lows I used to experience and the
>suicidal thoughts with it. I love pot bc I never get
>irritated angry or upset when I smoke. It helps me
>unwind and gives me something to look forward to. But
>it kills my ambition, my drive to do ANYTHING above
>what is necessary in my personal life. I have an
>addictive personality by nature, and my marijuana use
>has exploded in the past year, as I have much more
>free time and often spend it smoking. I stopped a
>week ago and 2 days later I was irritable, with
>headaches, unable to sleep, loss of focus and
>concentration (more so than when I smoke), etc. Is
>this normal? I just put an order in for a bag bc I
>can't stand the way I feel today. My cigarette
>smoking is up to almost 1 pack a day to offset the
>loss of marijuana this past week, which is the most
>I've ever smoked. Am I crazy to believe that my
>Paxil/Pot combo actually helped treat my depression??
>Do I have to make a choice between lethargy and
>feelings of frustration and anxiety (which the Paxil
>has not completely treated)? I feel there certainly
>are SOME benefits to that combo, based on the fact
>that during this period of heavy pot use the last 12
>months I'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER in my personal life.
>But I just can't even out my consumption. 2 joints one
>day, 12 the next, but every day if it’s in the house.
>Is this just a combination of my personality and the
>addictiveness of any drug? I have smoked cigarettes
>for 10 years, but never like this. I saw the Eli
>Lilly commercial on TV recently regarding Bi-Polar
>disorder. Those of you with extreme depression should
>visit lilly.com and take the mood disorder profile
>survey. I have yet to speak to my physician about my
>score, but according to the survey I am bi-polar with
>flying colors. Who would have thunk it? I was half
>hoping they would say that marijuana is great for
>treating this problem, but somehow I doubt it. So, I
>guess where I am at is 1. Never been happier 2. Never
>smoked more (4 days a week at least)3. Not getting as
>much done as I used to 4. When I stop I feel like
>shit. Are these the trade offs we have to deal with?
>
>I feel guilty about my use, more from a social
>perspective than anything-the stigma of being a
>pothead. I drive my buddies to the bars when we go
>out and they get smashed, but in societies mind I'm a
>stoner bc I relax with a couple of joints rather than
>beers. If I could drink safely I would, but I can't
>so I smoke. And if the 15 year old Steve that posted a
>while back is reading this, hang in there Brother.
>You have people that love you, and help is available.
>Talk to your school counselor or an adult you trust
>about your smoking and especially your feelings. BE
>HONEST with them. You may have a chemical imbalance
>that can be treated with medicine. You don't have to
>feel this way. Sorry to be so long winded but that's
>my two cents.
I've been smoking pot for about 20 years, but real heavy for about five years off and on. Yeah, when you stop, you feel like shit, but it goes away. I went through rehab cuz I got addicted to vicodan too. If you really apply yourself, "work a program", drink a LOT of water, take potassium supplements, exercise, get outdoors daily, and start filling your time up with things you didn't get done while your were stoned, eventually, you get over it. I just seem to be one of those who can do real well, but then all the sudden everything changes and I relapse and each time is worse than the last. I can say it in hindsight, if you can find a way to live without self-medicating, do it NOW. Get support. And get spiritual. I just don't like feeling trapped in this addiction. Are there others trapped like me, in a long term marriage with a spouse who wants to stay with drugs? Does anyone else desparately want help but can't because of money and/or your spouse? Wow, didn't know I had so much to say.
Subject: >:-( marijuana: good and bad, definitely.


Author:
Susan
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Date Posted: 14:04:12 10/06/02 Sun

One of the differences I see among pot smokers and alcohol
drinkers is this: pot smokers won't SHUT UP about weed.
My daughter ALWAYS , during every discussion, ends up talking about her dealers, their private lives and how they suck, jail, cops, how "controlled and smart" she is, blah blah blah. The people I know who drink socially rarely bring it up. They actually are not OBSESSED WITH drinking! They can be interesting to talk to! If they order a drink, they do not have to talk non-stop the next day and the day after that about who sold it to them, what it was like, who drove the car home, ad-nauseum.
SEE THE DIFFERENCE?? HELL OOOOO
Subject: Is your employer abusive? Let the world know!


Author:
KarlMarx
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Date Posted: 21:28:30 08/19/02 Mon

Here's a new forum for posting information about abusive employers. Not only can you get a load off your shoulders, but you just might save someone from making the same mistake you did. Never work for a jerk!

Working in the USA
Subject: DR. William Luther Pierce IS DEAD GOD DAM WHAT BLESSING


Author:
Sput Nick
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Date Posted: 14:22:56 08/11/02 Sun

Dr WM Pierce Is Dead He Died Wealthy Hate Mongering Is A Great Busness To Be In He Sead
To Me in the 70,s He Sead He Was Going To Do Evin Beater Than Oral Roberts. Wel Hel He Did But What About The Administrative Board He Left With Some Of The MoneyS. DONT GEAT RIPPED OFF DONT JOIN THE NATIONAL ALLIENCE OR BUY VANGUARD BOOKS
Subject: Uh...hello? Is anyone out there???


Author:
Nici
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Date Posted: 07:38:44 04/05/01 Thu

Is anyone actually looking at or reading this board? If so, could you please just right a short little message so that I know I'm not the only one here? Thanks!
[> Subject: Re: Uh...hello? Is anyone out there???


Author:
DRUNK AN BORD
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Date Posted: 19:39:33 01/12/02 Sat

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[> Subject: >;-) Re: Uh...hello? Is anyone out there???


Author:
jack
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Date Posted: 17:29:29 06/06/02 Thu

>Is anyone actually looking at or reading this board?
>If so, could you please just right a short little
>message so that I know I'm not the only one here?
>Thanks!
im here baby
[> [> Subject: Re: Uh...hello? Is anyone out there???


Author:
ranae blake
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Date Posted: 00:15:54 08/11/02 Sun

>>Is anyone actually looking at or reading this board?
>>If so, could you please just right a short little
>>message so that I know I'm not the only one here?
>>Thanks!
>im here baby
I am here also now icnowledge that I replyed thanks bye bye
[> Subject: Re: Uh...hello? Is anyone out there???


Author:
ranae blake
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Date Posted: 00:12:54 08/11/02 Sun

>Is anyone actually looking at or reading this board?
>If so, could you please just right a short little
>message so that I know I'm not the only one here?
>Thanks!

Hello Yes I am hear waiting for your reply thanks!!!hear is your few short words...Reply
[> Subject: Re: Uh...hello? Is anyone out there???


Author:
ranae blake
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Date Posted: 00:13:58 08/11/02 Sun

>Is anyone actually looking at or reading this board?
>If so, could you please just right a short little
>message so that I know I'm not the only one here?
>Thanks!
yes i am hear!!!
Subject: Hmmn


Author:
Jabajaw
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Date Posted: 22:28:26 01/19/02 Sat

You guys don't sound very much depressed at all. Y'all express yourselves very clearly. I go through days and don't know how the fuck I feel. I don't know what music I like and if I do, I listen to it for twice, love it then after the 3 time I can't stand it. None of my feelings are concrete. It all started 4 years ago when I stopped smoking weed. I felt like I was on top of my game. I was about to go back to school(Sophomore year), I had a sexy girlfriend, plenty of friends and so I figured i would eliminate pot,concentrate on my girlfriend and school right, that would be the mature thing to do right? Wrong..my ass has been depressed ever since. I've gone over that era in my life wondering what the hell did i do wrong that cause me to lose the willpower, charisma, deep feeling, sensitivity, humor, zest for life I once had and lost in a day but have come to no avail. I've tryed everything from prozac, serzone, wellbutrin, zoloft, st. johns wort, kava kava, excercise, vitamin B and other joints and each has had their placebo affect that would wear off in a matter of days. I feel like I've lost everything I've worked so hard for. I believe theirs an answer out there but I'm getting really fed up by not finding it. Every day seems urgent and my whole mission seems to be in finding the cure and reason for my depression. And believe me I come up with a different reason everyday only to find out that new realization hasn't done shit for me and it's back to the drawing board. Now I'm contemplating going on Paxil(something I've haven't tried). If that helps, I might add marijuana to that(even though I've been pretty much clean for 4 years since it didn't help my symptoms. Just constant coming up with a new idea that might work keeps me going and it's almost exiting to have the notion that it might work only to be disappointed again and come up with another futile answer the next hour. Anyway thanks for listening
[> Subject: Hmmmm


Author:
Doug Richardson
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Date Posted: 09:11:29 02/07/02 Thu

My advice 2 you is to get some consueling you fucken freak
[> Subject: >;-) Re: Hmmn


Author:
ranae blake
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Date Posted: 23:57:50 08/10/02 Sat

>You guys don't sound very much depressed at all. Y'all
>express yourselves very clearly. I go through days and
>don't know how the fuck I feel. I don't know what
>music I like and if I do, I listen to it for twice,
>love it then after the 3 time I can't stand it. None
>of my feelings are concrete. It all started 4 years
>ago when I stopped smoking weed. I felt like I was on
>top of my game. I was about to go back to
>school(Sophomore year), I had a sexy girlfriend,
>plenty of friends and so I figured i would eliminate
>pot,concentrate on my girlfriend and school right,
>that would be the mature thing to do right? Wrong..my
>ass has been depressed ever since. I've gone over that
>era in my life wondering what the hell did i do wrong
>that cause me to lose the willpower, charisma, deep
>feeling, sensitivity, humor, zest for life I once had
>and lost in a day but have come to no avail. I've
>tryed everything from prozac, serzone, wellbutrin,
>zoloft, st. johns wort, kava kava, excercise, vitamin
>B and other joints and each has had their placebo
>affect that would wear off in a matter of days. I feel
>like I've lost everything I've worked so hard for. I
>believe theirs an answer out there but I'm getting
>really fed up by not finding it. Every day seems
>urgent and my whole mission seems to be in finding the
>cure and reason for my depression. And believe me I
>come up with a different reason everyday only to find
>out that new realization hasn't done shit for me and
>it's back to the drawing board. Now I'm contemplating
>going on Paxil(something I've haven't tried). If that
>helps, I might add marijuana to that(even though I've
>been pretty much clean for 4 years since it didn't
>help my symptoms. Just constant coming up with a new
>idea that might work keeps me going and it's almost
>exiting to have the notion that it might work only to
>be disappointed again and come up with another futile
>answer the next hour. Anyway thanks for listening
I listened hard I can read through your lines I have been there also Prozac does work for me. I am female there is a female hormone in prozac that is why it workes for me.
I hear you when you say you listen to music and you like the song maby once then you could give a shit less. I have been there sometimes i feel myself slipping back down in to deep.. But now that I know what to expect i can catch myself If I dont get cought up in it know what I mean. Hopifully paxil will work for you I hear it does from other people who use it but once you find that thing that is going to grasp you and pull you out of your depression. You will find your self to be a new man.. God bless you
Subject: I need a gun


Author:
steve
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Date Posted: 00:53:07 08/05/02 Mon

Help me. I can't live anymore.
[> Subject: Re: I need a gun


Author:
Angela
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Date Posted: 21:13:34 08/06/02 Tue

>Help me. I can't live anymore.
Dear Steve,
Please talk to someone...Be good to yourself..sometimes things get hard for us...and sometimes it feels like forever....I'm sorry you're hurting....please find someone around you to open up to...call a friend, a family member, or maybe someone at a crisis center...they have people on the phone 24 hours a day--and you can call for free---I am thinking about you and pray you feel better....
Warm WIshes, Angela
Subject: ? Marijuanna use while Pregnant


Author:
Michelle
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Date Posted: 19:02:13 07/28/02 Sun

Hello,

I am trying to find information online about marijuanna use while pregnant. My sister used while she was pregnant with her daughter , she was born healthy THANK GOD, but now I am trying to figure out if her crying and being fussy all the time could be caused by the marijuanna use. I know it can have a long term effect, but I am unsure of what the signs would be.

Please Help A Concerned Auntie
Subject: Lonely and wandering


Author:
Kiki
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Date Posted: 13:42:54 07/26/02 Fri

It all started going downhill some months ago. Then the end of school hit. My boyfriend went back to his home 600 miles away, and my friends resumed their lives. I moved after graduation, and I know no one in my town. Got a job, met some people. No new friends. At first I was fine without seeing them less than weekly, but it's gotten worse. My other grandmother died. I go to work, go the library, and come home to watch TV or read. Less than a month from now I will return to school, and I hope that things will be better. Maybe I won't be so lonely.

I found this chat through Google...I won't be back. Still, I hope that I have given a different, non-drug perspective on things.
Subject: :~( My friend


Author:
No name please
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Date Posted: 05:26:11 04/25/02 Thu

I found out a few days ago m friend has been depresse for 2 years. She hasnt told her mom or dad and only told her friends. I kind of suspected it because she doesnt eat and always wears black. Help me make her feel better
Subject: Gee, I expected to find a support group for dealing with depression.


Author:
Not staying here
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Date Posted: 20:13:11 04/13/02 Sat

instead I found a group full of right-wing accusations against anyone not just like them. I can get that in the conservative-owned "liberal" media (as if).

It's scary how these fundamentalist nuts want to take over America, just like the Taliban. I'm leaving now, thanks.

Moderator: you might want to actually "moderate" this forum.
[> Subject: Re: Gee, I expected to find a support group for dealing with depression.


Author:
aggro
[Edit]

Date Posted: 13:13:47 04/16/02 Tue

You potheads are really starting to scare me. First of all, you want to shout "fundementalist" over something so fucking PETTY as my preference of alcohol over pot? When I came to this site last year I was down and was looking for help and what do I get? Post after post after fucking post of you shits tearing into my drinking(and yes I'm still drinking and quite proud to be...SUE ME), and no I don't belong to any "brotherhood" or militia(as I know most drinkers, like people in general, aren't). We are everyday people, but you wouldn't get that impression if you believe all the propaganda from the few pot-smoking loudmouths who are ALL OVER the internet.

I came here because I was depressed. Unless I'm crazy, I don't believe I ever requested ONCE to be dragged into this quasi-political "discussion", did I? No I didn't, and if you really wanted offer me serious advice and do so with some taste, fine. Until then, this forum is the the epitome of pond scum and you people don't deserve my simpathy or anyone else's until that day comes and you decide to respect others...until then, GO FUCK YOURSELF!

>instead I found a group full of right-wing accusations
>against anyone not just like them. I can get that in
>the conservative-owned "liberal" media (as if).
>
>It's scary how these fundamentalist nuts want to take
>over America, just like the Taliban. I'm leaving now,
>thanks.
>
>Moderator: you might want to actually "moderate" this
>forum.
Subject: wow man ?????


Author:
i must be insane
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Date Posted: 19:48:08 04/12/02 Fri

FUCKING GUY I HAVE BEEN SMOKING POT FOR 13 YEARS I'VE KILLED NO ONE AND NEVER SUCKED COCK OF THOUGHT ABOUT SUCKING COCK SO I THINK THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD SMOKE SOME POT OR DO WHAT I THINK YOU'VE BEEN AFRAID OF YOUR HOLE LIFE AND SUCK SOME DICK
Subject: To all the pot-loving, H.S. dropout dickheads(you know who you are):


Author:
FUCK YOU
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Date Posted: 02:19:50 03/22/02 Fri

You sit there in your shit-eating haze spouting sass about alcohol and our government...tell me, WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? People come here because they are DEPRESSED, not because they want to depress OTHERS with their filthy, lewd, piss-and-moan, bitch-and-whine leftist belly-aching SHIT. Bring it to your CONGRESSMAN(that is when you're old enough to vote in about 10 fucking years(your mental age, but I digress), otherwise SHUT THE FUCK UP! You're so smart then why do you consume a substance(pot) that depresses you MORE, HUH? HELLOoO?!?!?!?!?!?

And Nikki, if you're still here, did you forget what this board was all about or did you just get stoned with all your rube Michigan middle-school friends that you're babysitting here(your kids?)?

Matter of time before I write Admin and tell them what I think about this wonderful little website of yours, so go on ahead and prove to me that you're actually LEARNING something(besides Women's Studies(hehe)) at that one-room schoolhouse over there in the glacier-infested shithole UP Michigan that you call a college and post or have one of your 6'2" plaid-wearing, stoned, lesbo sorority wacks sober up for 2 fucking seconds and post something intelligent and, more-importantly, SINCERE(since this IS a DEPRESSION board for DEPRESSED, TEEEEEEEEEN(whoohoo!) people, right?), comprende? Capish? Good, now you and all your wonderful freinds can go piss in the yellow snow, make yourself a lemon-colored snowcone and then EAT it, or else do whatever it is all you 300-lb facially-haired squaw hags in upper Michigan do, or just DELETE this whole godfarsaken S.O.B. of a board before I have the Admin do it...so which do you prefer?

Lastly, I'm certain Ted Nugent is proud to be over on the OTHER(better) half of Michigan, AWAY from all you sniveling pinko turds! I wipe my ass with your fucking "opinions". Fucking DIPSHITS.

God Bless AMERICA(because we give and give and give and give our tax dollars so that all the brain dead, mouth-breathing, hermaphrodite trailer trash like yourselves can learn to type on the 1983 Apple II computer provided by your asbetos-ridden pubic school.

Buhbye!!!
Subject: Whose the idiot


Author:
joan
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Date Posted: 04:07:13 02/06/02 Wed

Is it so important spelling anyway your grammer is incorrect.One doesn't say "gonna" If is that what bothers you hen see a shrink!
[> Subject: Re: Whose the idiot


Author:
Mark West
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Date Posted: 09:08:28 02/07/02 Thu

Go to hell you freak you dont know what your talking about
Subject: :~( need a boost


Author:
Esther
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Date Posted: 04:02:27 02/06/02 Wed

marriage unsuccessful,no companionship no love,so lonely not aweek goes by without tears.Feel empty so empty so unhappy nothing helps though I try to keep busy right now after an operation but nothing helps nothing.Hate where I live.I can see no way out all is grey sometimes I try to see a silver lining but it disappearsso quickly I live in a grey atmosphere of hostility misudnerstanding and above all loneliness
Subject: marijuanna does cause depression


Author:
krisztina
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Date Posted: 10:56:02 02/04/02 Mon


IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET, MAKE SURE IT'S SPELLED CORRECTLY, OTHERWISE YOU LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT...
ANYWAYS, WEED ROCKS!!!!!!!!
Subject: final message


Author:
Aggro
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Date Posted: 12:54:49 01/18/02 Fri

I think I see a definate pattern forming here.

First it's the pothead, then the several other posters who also claim to be potheads, then the anti-alcohol poster, then the ALL CAPS poster with the attitude, then the claims of superior intelligence by the "HELLO?" guy, then the "I live in a great big house, have a wonderful wife 2 kids blahblahblah" guy and I have to wonder if I've been followed because I've seen this exact same stuff time and time and time and time again.

Well just so you know, whoever you are, I'm not dependant on alcohol(at least I haven't been for the last 4 years now) and I was never a chronic drinker. In fact, I've quit numerous times(with sobriety periods usually spanning many many months) and since December 18th of last year I haven't touched a single drink and in fact have decided to quit for good for fear of my physical health.

I don't live in a trailer(never did), I don't screw my sister or my cousin OR my mother, I'm not toothless, I don't have a dog, I don't listen to country music, I'm not a "Jerry Springer case", I'm not stupid(or poor) and I'm not queer either, and if you flamers can think of something else, well then it's nothing I haven't been told before by your ilk and so I can tell you that I'm not that either.

My name, "Aggro", in Webster's Dictionary means basically a loner, which is what I am, and it's a conscious choice I've made for the last 6 years of my young adulthood as a coping mechanism for my depressed state manifested by the likes of people like that friendly person on this board who has apparently made it his/her New Year's resolution to wage some sort of holy war with me. Well I hope you're feeling very proud of yourself, Mr. Good Citizen, for picking on a depressed person.

As far as owning nice houses and a bunch of cars and whatever else you care to talk about, whether or not that's true in anyone's case here is totally irrelevant to me and it doesn't make me feel any worse about myself, if that is indeed your goal, because I happen to have everything I need thank you.

I only found this board, like everyone else(I think), at a time when I was down and looking for some answers. Well I'm "over that" now, my life is back on track but what I really don't understand is all this anomosity towards me; what, just because I chose to have a few drinks in my life? I think your anger is misguided and you really shouldn't be pointing it at people like me; in fact I'd really quite prefer to be left alone by your type, thank you very much(it's like they say, if you don't have anything good to say, then don't say it).

And one final thing to the other person or persons here who have chosen to continually insult me: if you choose to continue this thing which you and you alone have instigated against me, then how about having the courtesy of at least posting your name and your home address so that maybe I can find out who your are, what your deal is, and then maybe we can come to an understanding and truce "mano-a-mano", if you will; if not, [insert your choice expletive]. Sound good?

Bye.
Subject: ASS HOLES


Author:
Ass hole
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Date Posted: 19:27:39 01/12/02 Sat

EVERY BOD ON THIS WEBSITE NEEDS TO GET A FUCKING LIFE AND WORRY ABOUT THEIR OWN PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF TELLING OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO THINK YOU DICK IN THE ASS MOTHERFUCKERS:)
Subject: fed up, exhausted, and bored of life


Author:
Indigo
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Date Posted: 14:27:55 01/08/02 Tue

I am actually feeling very lost and annoyed with everyone around me. It seems that every time I try to do something to get myself out of a mess that I have put myself in, i only seemed destined to fail. I seem to have run out of all options, I no one to talk to, I have no faith in anti depressants and I am just wodering if anything will ever go right or one day I may actually wake up and this will have been a stupid nightmare. I would do anything for some advice on how to over come this sense of feeling totally on a my own.
Subject: Depression from Pot?


Author:
Jim Cunningham
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Date Posted: 08:25:25 01/01/02 Tue



UUUMMMMMM....liver disease? HHHEEELLLLLOOOOOO!!
MAYBE the BOOZE
[> Subject: Re: Depression from Pot?


Author:
Aggro
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Date Posted: 11:03:45 01/02/02 Wed

DUHHHHHH...pot smoking can put TAR RESIDUE in your lungs(AND brain)...Hello!!!!!!!![see how stupid that looks?]

Don't go comparing your vice with mine and playing your stupid little game, not here. If you want to flame people why not try someplace else, where people aren't DEPRESSED(like me), OK?

You're the PROBLEM, not the solution, in case you hadn't noticed.
>
> UUUMMMMMM....liver disease? HHHEEELLLLLOOOOOO!!
> MAYBE the BOOZE
[> Subject: Re: Depression from Pot?


Author:
Aggro
[Edit]

Date Posted: 12:05:38 01/02/02 Wed

You say you're not here to put anyone down but then, lo and behold, here you are putting me down 13 minutes later.

Hey, I CHOSE to drink KNOWING the implications, just as I chose to quit a couple weeks back when I started feeling a chest pain in my lower-right side(I don't need a doctor to tell me where my liver is), and SCREW doctors, meds, health care & that bullshit because, in case you hadn't noticed, God doesn't WANT people like me here! I mean, isn't it obvious??? I'm 28 and I'll take my fate like a man, the way God intended. Hell, a modern couple slaving 80 hrs/wk at a computer just to raise ONE kid? FUCK THAT SHIT, something's goddamn wrong with the world today and our so-called "values"! "American Dream" my ass! People are STUPID today!

HELL, I'll sell my shit & go live in a shack with my Holy bible & starve to death & to HELL with all you plastic, phony, liberal, psychobab, mealy-mouthed, prancing fuckheads! You hippies fucked it up for my generation, brainwashing my peers, but guess what? Proud as you are now with the fake, serf-serving and rigged world you people created(and now control), at least we won't have to feed you sorry, gluttonous PIGS as you age and become worthless on all your stupid medication because we won't be able to AFFORD to(l.o.l!). You and others like you are mere fodder for a soulless, corporate existance which only values $$$ and vain, pointless activities(movies, football, etc), just like everyone else, and if you people actually knew how unimportant and SILLY your world and all your so-called "values" truly are to me, then obviously you'd re-eveluate all your childish quips to me and all the foolish pride you people embody.

But hey, you picked on someone "beneath" you, even a depressed person! Well congratulations, I'm so happy for you. You've shown your "tolerance" and "open-mindedness" to everyone, haven't you, Mr Do-Good Potsmoker?


>
> UUUMMMMMM....liver disease? HHHEEELLLLLOOOOOO!!
> MAYBE the BOOZE
Subject: Sexy Metals Sunglasses?


Author:
Joan
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Date Posted: 11:52:23 01/02/02 Wed

Hi! Grab one free??

~Joan
Happy Holiday!

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>
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>
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Subject: Marijuanna Depression??


Author:
Jim Cunningham
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Date Posted: 08:12:50 01/01/02 Tue

I'm not here to put you or anyone else down. I've been a 2 joint a day smoker for 30yrs now. I went through a depression last year(very deep). My doctor(for 5yrs.and still have him)knew from the start I'm a pot smoker that many yrs.gave me(paxil)and used it for maybe 2months and I've been fine.Everyone is different. My depression was from my job.Maybe take a look at what's going on in your life (now and before)could be the key.Talk to your Doctor.
Good Luck,
Jim Cunningham
Subject: Hey anyone have problems?


Author:
(laughing)
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Date Posted: 13:28:58 06/18/01 Mon

Hey are you having trouble? Feeling down? Is your mom dying of cancer? See if this yooper peenhead gives a rat's ass(LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!)...............
[> Subject: Re: Hey anyone have problems?


Author:
Ohhhhhhhh ohh...
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Date Posted: 01:07:23 06/19/01 Tue

...how can you mend, this broken maaaaa-aaaaaaannnnn...how can a loser, ever win??? Please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp me mend, my brooooooooooken heart, and let me live...again!!!
[> [> Subject: Re: Hey anyone have problems?


Author:
Kelly Gainor
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Date Posted: 00:56:42 09/22/01 Sat

>...how can you mend, this broken
>maaaaa-aaaaaaannnnn...how can a loser, ever win???
>Please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp me mend, my brooooooooooken
>heart, and let me live...again!!I am living thru the exact situation. Read the Ten Commandments of Living With a Loser.This should help you out to learn his thinking.
Subject: Yeah I'm depressed


Author:
Blah
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Date Posted: 17:30:32 07/04/01 Wed

I can't find any Fritos. OR bean dip. Help!
[> Subject: Re: Yeah I'm depressed


Author:
Strohmon73
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Date Posted: 23:50:59 07/14/01 Sat

>I can't find any Fritos. OR bean dip. Help!

Eh no problem broah! Jus go pas' tha drink on ol' US2 'til ya git tu da #8(ender road)...Union76 staightahead(don' even stop, fuk there's no1 there!), they got all tha schits ya need, AN Strohs/Schoals/SlimJim/WayneNewtin kesette taypes, yew naimit!!!
Subject: postopertive depression after bypass surgery on elderly


Author:
SERollins
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Date Posted: 13:11:27 05/06/01 Sun

My 78 year old mother had quad bypass and aortic vavle replacement in early January. She is a different person now. She won't read the paper, eates very little, won't drive, barely leaves the house, is almost always ill with something. We beg her to take an antidepresent and she adamantly refuses. She doesn't beleive it will help and is sick of taking so many pills already. We had pleaded, cried, and don't know how to get her the help she needs. He doctor and other family members have also admitted that she needs help, but she refuses to take medication or talk to a therapist.
[> Subject: Re: postopertive depression after bypass surgery on elderly


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 09:04:15 05/18/01 Fri

>My 78 year old mother had quad bypass and aortic vavle
>replacement in early January. She is a different
>person now. She won't read the paper, eates very
>little, won't drive, barely leaves the house, is
>almost always ill with something. We beg her to take
>an antidepresent and she adamantly refuses. She
>doesn't beleive it will help and is sick of taking so
>many pills already. We had pleaded, cried, and don't
>know how to get her the help she needs. He doctor and
>other family members have also admitted that she needs
>help, but she refuses to take medication or talk to a
>therapist.

She could definately use some counseling, but if she refuses then unfortunately there's nothing you or anyone else can do unless you feel some sort of forceful intervention would be the answer (although forcing anything on a 78-year-old woman who just had that kind of surgery and I'm guessing is probably in a very weak condition physically and neurologically is probably not advisable, although I don't know her exact situation and I'm certainly no doctor). If it's an emotional problem then maybe she could use a preacher if she doesn't have one or maybe she just needs someone to listen to her, you know, to be with her. All in all the choice is up to her, and if she doesn't want to be helped, maybe you should respect her wishes or perhaps if the operation did something specifically to her brain or something then I'd definately take her to a doctor immediately, but like I said I don't know...hope that helps. Take care.
[> Subject: Re: postopertive depression after bypass surgery on elderly


Author:
Nicole Rutkowski
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Date Posted: 06:52:03 06/28/01 Thu

> My 79yr old grandmother just had triple bypass surgery. After the surgery she was still recovering o she would be cheery but not fully herself. After a couple weeks my grandmother started forgetting things and saying things that did not make sense. She would also cry alot, lost alot of weight, will not get up even to go to the bathroom, and cannot sleep. My grandfather took her to their cardiologist and he gave her paxil and zanex. After that she got worse. We tried to tell my grandmother that she should see a doctor more suited to diagnos her condition rather than a cariologist for her mental state. You see my cousin works for this cariologist and is butting in giving my grandmother samples of paxil and zanex and she is only a receptionist. My grandfather put my grandmother in the hospital for psychiatric evaluation and they had her doing everything for herself, had her in group sessions, and everyone my father, aunt, mother etc. would visit her everyday at the scheduled times. At first my grandmother did not like it in the hospital and would tell my father and grandfather that she personally blamed them and would hate them forever. After a week my grandfather convinced the doctor, who diagnosed my grandmother with demensia, that my grandmother had improved and the doctor released her. Now they sit in a dark room literally staring at the walls. They walk once a day but my granmother will still not eat. I would like to know what foods she should focus on eating. She is a diabetic. And I would also like to know what kind of treatment she should be getting and what kind of rehabilitation she needs. Thanks Nicole
Subject: *sigh*


Author:
Nici
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Date Posted: 10:17:32 04/16/01 Mon

Well, I see this room is getting a lot of use... Apparently I am the only one with problems around here. Lucky everyone else. Oh well, bye.
[> Subject: Re: *sigh*


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 09:26:26 05/18/01 Fri

>Well, I see this room is getting a lot of use...
>Apparently I am the only one with problems around
>here. Lucky everyone else. Oh well, bye.

Unfortunately very few people seem to visit these boards but perhaps if you told us what your problems are then maybe someone might be able to help, or just find another board with heavier traffic...maybe I'm being overly redundant but I'm only trying to help; I'm just in a helping mood lately I guess. Good luck!
Subject: Help me


Author:
Rinoa
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Date Posted: 18:02:41 03/25/01 Sun

I think my bf's depressed and he's slipping deeper in what do i do?
[> Subject: :~( Re: Help me


Author:
Nici
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Date Posted: 09:26:02 03/27/01 Tue

Alol that you can do is let him know that you are there for him. It's best ot read up on depression, to understand it better. If he doesn't want to admit that he has depression, you need to be respectful, but still look into it if you think that is what he has. Many people, including my self, formerly, view depression as an excuse, as something that doesn't exist. But it does, and it is a serious problem...I don't know if this message will help you or not, but feel free to e-mail me !
[> Subject: Re: Help me


Author:
Katherine Taylor
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Date Posted: 16:58:11 05/14/01 Mon

>I think my bf's depressed and he's slipping deeper in
>what do i do?
Subject: weed


Author:
Dan
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Date Posted: 16:39:42 04/13/05 Wed

i agree wit u cathy all the way but cat who said weed made her gain 15 pounds u know maybe stop pointing the blame at weed and take responsibily and realize maybe its ur own fault
Subject: WEED


Author:
DAN
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Date Posted: 16:30:02 04/13/05 Wed

YES i am depressed u kno y bcuz weed is illgeal that is how it depresses me cuz alchol is worst yet legal
beer kills weed doesnt u only get killed over weed bcuz its illgeal and cigs are worst than weed for u
Subject: Marijuanna


Author:
dan
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Date Posted: 16:17:45 04/13/05 Wed

ok marijuanna all drugs cause depression wit the dopamine withdrawl and shit but CAN cause depression not always look at me ive always been depressed and all ppl usually are and ur DARE officers use this to scare u while ull blame ur depression on weed when its really ur own fault i wanna c the percent of ppl are depressed from weed and not somethin else i want a real statistic and not some crap like 1 out of 3 ppl who smoke die cuz wtf is wit these statistics u learn in class
Subject: I see...


Author:
Steve (former Voy poster as of today)
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Date Posted: 12:01:56 03/28/01 Wed

This is the forum for depressed teenage Backstreet Boys fans, hell with everyone else, right? We don't have kewl problems like U do obviously. Well it doesn't matter, like I need to speak with a bunch of vapid kids anyway (I assumed there were some older, like, adults here as well, Imean, you SAID adults R welcome...just wondering, I've been on several of these Voy boards now and are any Voy forum posters older than 15? Hell is the freaking Voy OWNER of driving age for that matter? Now I truly understand how boards like this attain their prestiged occupation on the InternetTrash.com website.
[> Subject: Re: I see...


Author:
Nici
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Date Posted: 14:24:42 03/28/01 Wed

>OK, #1, I am NOT a Basckstreet buys fan...They suck!
#2, I didnt say that no one has problems except teens, I just said that this page was aimed at them...Many teenagers do not feel that they have anywhere to go or anyone to talk to, and that is the purpose of this board #3, Adults are welcome, but as you may have noticed there have not been a lot of users on this board as of yet, and people like you don't help that out any. #4 I am 18 years old, so YES, I AM of driving age #5, people like you are the reason that site even exists...
And I would like to conclude by simply sayng GO SIT ON IT!!!
[> [> Subject: Good enough...


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 19:30:51 03/28/01 Wed

That's cool. At least I know now where I stand. I've wasted enough time on these depression boards spilling my heart out seeing if anyone at all (perhaps a counselor, a preacher, whoever) gives 2 shits about my situation, but to no avail, apparently. Ah well (actually it was more of a game I've been playing these last few weeks to see if I'd be ignored and as it turns out I was right--no one gives a flying f--- about me). But hey, you gave me a response and an explanation and that's exactly what I was looking for. I could ask you to further elaborate on what you meant by "people like me", but at least you said something and said it with conviction and I can respect that. I guess I'm just tired of being ignored; it's more about the redemption for the wasted minutes posting on these empty boards than about any outcry of mine for attention because I sure as hell don't need it at this stage in my life and if I do then I'm a complete f-cking wuss.
[> [> [> Subject: Re: Good enough...


Author:
Nici
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Date Posted: 18:52:22 03/29/01 Thu

OK....I feel that I must apologize for the things I wrote yesterday....Not neccessarily for saying them, but for the way they were said. I'm sorry, I should have been a little more considerate and a litlle less blunt.
I am not a counselor, or a preacher, but I know what is like to not feel cared about, or to just be afraid t tell the people close to you about your situation for fear of the pity that you will be showered in. I believe that everyone deserves a chance to have their problems heard. The closest I have to any training is the Mediation courses I have been taking for the past 2 years.
For what it's worth, you are not a f-cking wuss for wanting a little attention. No matter what age you are, everyone deserves a little bit of attention. Everyone needs to know they are cared about.
OK, I seriously meant everything I just said, but I just got a little too touchy-feely for myself. Well, ok then.

>That's cool. At least I know now where I stand. I've
>wasted enough time on these depression boards spilling
>my heart out seeing if anyone at all (perhaps a
>counselor, a preacher, whoever) gives 2 shits about my
>situation, but to no avail, apparently. Ah well
>(actually it was more of a game I've been playing
>these last few weeks to see if I'd be ignored and as
>it turns out I was right--no one gives a flying f---
>about me). But hey, you gave me a response and an
>explanation and that's exactly what I was looking for.
> I could ask you to further elaborate on what you
>meant by "people like me", but at least you said
>something and said it with conviction and I can
>respect that. I guess I'm just tired of being
>ignored; it's more about the redemption for the wasted
>minutes posting on these empty boards than about any
>outcry of mine for attention because I sure as hell
>don't need it at this stage in my life and if I do
>then I'm a complete f-cking wuss.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Thanks. [no message]


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 07:21:19 03/30/01 Fri

Subject: Welcome All!


Author:
Nici
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Date Posted: 18:27:55 03/05/01 Mon

I thought this board might help some of us with our problems...I can only hope that it will help with mine...

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