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Date Posted: 05:39:09 04/04/06 Tue
Author: samina ali
Subject: Re: OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS AND THEIR NEW NATIONAL IDENTITY CARDS - URDU V/S ENGLISH
In reply to: abduljabbar 's message, "Re: OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS AND THEIR NEW NATIONAL IDENTITY CARDS - URDU V/S ENGLISH" on 11:08:53 09/08/05 Thu

>>
>>OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS AND THEIR NEW
>>IDENTITY CARD – URDU V/s ENGLISH !!!
>>By Javed - 02 January 2004
>>
>>A public spirited citizen Samee-Ul-Hassan Karachi
>>(DAWN 29.12.2003) entitled “CNICs – a bottomless pit”
>>has stated how national waste the National
>>Registration Act of 1973 had been and keeping economic
>>and other conditions of Pakistan this scheme in 1973
>>should not have been started. He rightly quotes how
>>illegal Afghani had been all along obtaining NICs and
>>passports. He further quotes how countries like India
>>never introduced NICs scheme. Only two months back in
>>UK British Foeign Affairs has raised objection to any
>>proposal for any national identity card. Samee says
>>how much money has been spent on computerisation etc
>>for new Computerised NICs. 18 December in some Lahore
>>urdu newspaper I read a column wherein columnist from
>>that class who always praise every government move
>>while praising NADRA extraordinarily inter alia
>>alleged that thousands have got these Computerised
>>NICs illegally. Samee also says in 1980 he addressed
>>the Ministry of Interior raising his fears scheme
>>would not be useful. The scheme though in my view
>>good but it was started with ill designs. Where
>>national identity cards are issued the first and the
>>main steps then taken is creation of a central data
>>which in our case in 1970s was not done. Somewhere in
>>1990s I myself drew the attention of Ministry of
>>Interior directly and also through Federal Ombudsman
>>showing importance of keeping centralised data and
>>creatng simultaneously record of finger print data but
>>no body appreciated me. Mr. Samee I am sure must be
>>knowing creation of poorman’s bank, microwave bank,
>>clean wather authroity, super cards etc in fact
>>always are to create new seats for certain people and
>>not for real purpose as is told to the nation. For
>>example had it been real intent to help finance
>>domestic type business and young people then instead
>>creating new banks, new samll business complex etc
>>more strength would had been given to already existing
>>wonderful First Women Bank which did a real marvelous
>>work in this field.
>>
>>The government introduced a new separate national
>>identity card for Overseas Pakistanis (OPs) on a high
>>fee of US$ 25 per three year per each family member.
>>Almost each and every circle connected with Overseas
>>Pakistanis (OPs) concern over it. For example
>>Ministry of Foreign Affairs in writing logged its
>>protest with Ministry of Interior in as much as that
>>Joint Secretary from Foreign Affairs went personally
>>to the Ministry of the Interior to lodge this protest.
>>This was introduced without consulting Pakistani
>>Embassies and OPs circles like Pakistani Associations
>>abroad etc. Only recently on 12.10.2003 a news item
>>appeared that UK Ministry of Foreign Affairs has
>>strongly opposed and resented to the idea of any
>>national identity cards for its nationals.
>>
>>When NADRA raised the idea of issuing Pakistan Origin
>>Card (POC) for Pakistanis who have attained foreign
>>nationality a very senior journalist titled his column
>>“POC – a technique to earn money”. The rulers in the
>>1997 Overseas Pakistanis Convention held in Islamabad
>>pronounced Overseas Pakistanis (OPs) whether holding
>>having Pakistani or foreign nationality all are our
>>brothers and Pakistan is their home open all times. If
>>this is correct then why should a Pakistani need a POC
>>on payment to enter into his own home?
>>
>>The main reason for introducing this new National
>>Identity Card for Overseas Pakistanis (NICOP) given
>>was that present National Identity Card in Pakistan
>>was in Urdu which foreign authorities where OPs work
>>cannot read. This is an argument which has no logic
>>or sense. Foreign identity cards are never required
>>to be produced by any government department in
>>Pakistan. Likewise Pakistani national identity card
>>has never ever been required abroad by foreign
>>departments abroad. The only document universally
>>recognised for establishing one’s identity is his
>>national passport. I have worked for about 18 years
>>abroad. The country where I had been working has a
>>similar Identity card system as that in Pakistan.
>>During all these years neither in Pakistan any
>>department/bank asked me for producing my foreign ID
>>Card nor in my country of employment any Department,
>>my employer there or a Bank (even Pakistani bank
>>there) ever asked me to produce my Pakistani National
>>Identity Card. They always asked to produce local ID
>>Card. Pakistani ID Card was however required only in
>>Pakistan Embassies at time of issuance or renewal of
>>Passports, attestations work in our Embassies we all
>>know staff invariably know Urdu.
>>
>>Those who think POC for Pakistanis holding foreign
>>nationality and separate NICOP for Pakistani nationals
>>working abroad are just revenue generating brilliant
>>ideas perhaps have some weight in their thinking if we
>>see that according to a report published on 26/6/2003
>>now NADRA was planning to replace the traditional
>>identity card with a new multi purpose card with
>>bio-metric technology. Of course a new income.
>>
>>The main salient reason given introducing separate
>>card for Pakistanis working abroad was that foreign
>>countries Administrations cannot read Urdu hence need
>>for an English language card which foreign
>>Administrations could read. How weak and empty this
>>reason is can be judged from only one example that the
>>Punjab Ombudsman of the same Government to which NADRA
>>belongs addresses Overseas Pakistani complainants by
>>writing foreign complainant’s address on the envelope
>>in Urdu. Pakistani complainants from abroad write
>>their foreign addresses in English so that on return
>>host country postal administration could read it. But
>>the Punjab Ombudsman while replying translates this
>>English address into Urdu so foreign postal
>>administration should know to read Urdu. This negates
>>NADRA’s logic.

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