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Date Posted: 13:06:40 05/17/09 Sun
Author: mkross loves ya Ravey! ya better check in from time to time!
Subject: OMG!!!! All I can say is that many many many people will miss you!!!!!! You better still come by and check in with your homegirls at LAwoman's board!!!!
In reply to: Ravenbeauty 's message, "A thank you and a heartfelt goodbye to all my readers." on 17:44:03 05/15/09 Fri

I still do even though I haven't watched ABC soaps for a while now, as in several years. I've become a Y & R convert. But I still chats about other stuff and other things on tv.

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[> Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- Ann, 13:20:43 05/17/09 Sun [1]

I was very saddened to read this today, but even more saddened by what I think I am seeing at Soapcentral. I hope I'm wrong or just seeing things. It seems like every time someone starts an appreciation thread over there for all the years of hard work you've given us, it disappears. You've donated to that site for years. You've done this column for us for years. Aren't we allowed to even thank you over there? You are a class act Ravenbeauty. You are telling us to continue to support that site and have nothing but kind words for them, but it doesn't seem like the feeling is mutual now that you have resigned. How disappointing. :(

I will miss you more than you know! My daughter and I read your column with our breakfast every Saturday. I had a feeling this day would come. Can't say I blame you even though things will never really be he same with you gone. Take care of you and know that you are loved and will be missed. Truly missed.

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[> [> Re: Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- Cosign!, 14:13:39 05/17/09 Sun [1]

I left a pretty intense message regarding this very thing earlier, but I guess Raven felt it was too strong or something so it never went out. I'll try and tone it down so hopefully it will make it out here.

With all the years that Raven has given that site, the least they can do is allow us to thank her over there! They should be the ones to start a thread themselves and show they have a little class. Not interested in even going there anymore now. Sorry but its how I feel.

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[> [> [> Re: Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- pastal, 15:49:44 05/17/09 Sun [1]

As soon as I found out and read Raven's post here, I went to SOC and couldn't believe there was nothing there.

Raven, you will be so missed. I couldn't wait to get to the computer on Saturday mornings to see if you had posted. On the Saturday's that you did, it made my day.

But like Gord said, when it's no longer fun, and it is more of a chore than pleasure, then hang up your hat and walk away proud.

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[> [> [> Re: Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- flex22v, 01:23:22 05/18/09 Mon [1]

I know they always delete off topic or random posts but a thank you would have been just like a birthday thread -- why not have one priortized at the top of each abc board... or why not have the mods for the ABC boards type up a thank you along with this post and lock it so no one can comment if they want to avoid drama... at least it would still be acknowledging and respecting someone who honestly was the reason many even visited the site regularly in the first place.

and what's up with that Hirsch person's statement being stickied and prioritized as the top post on the AMC board? What exactly is that insinuating? Was that supposed to be a warning about posting spoilers? Was that insinuating that someone at SOC is being accused and Dan was being threatened as the owner of the site? Why post that on the SOC board unless one of us is being accused of being some thieving insider?

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[> [> [> [> That has nothing to do with it. -- KC, 02:27:02 05/18/09 Mon [1]

Raven hasn't posted Lynda Hirsch scoops in ages. Not only that, but Raven was the one who scooped the whole Adam/Stuart thing weeks ago before LH's recaps were even written or released! Totally different situations. She was talking about someone who is obviously stealing these from her place of employment or in the same building in order to gain access to them before Lynda even posts them! That's not Raven! She was talking about that person posting her recaps a week early on all these message boards (not Raven).

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[> [> [> [> LH posted that at SOC because another poster (not Raven) had gotten a hold of her recaps a week early and posted them on the board and that thread was removed. Guess you missed that. -- Nope, 02:31:26 05/18/09 Mon [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: LH posted that at SOC because another poster (not Raven) had gotten a hold of her recaps a week early and posted them on the board and that thread was removed. Guess you missed that. -- flex22v, 10:52:51 05/18/09 Mon [1]

Oh no KC, I think my post must have come across completely wrong if you think that is what I was getting at. I know Raven has her own sources. I'm mostly on the GH board and honestly never even heard of LH until I saw the sticky on the AMC board when I was checking to find any new Raven posts.

What I was meaning to say is that the stickied post sounds accusatory against someone at SOC and since most of us see Raven as THE scoop source for SOC, the stickied post - and then the subsequent apparent attempt to not allow us to send Raven off in style send out (to me) a bad impression. I hope that is clearer.

I am in no way trying to say anything about Raven - I wouldn't go to someone's site and slam them :) I was only trying to express that what is currently there and what is happening now could be completely misconstrued by some to seem that the statement is accusing her which I find unfair and wrong. Anyway -- things get lost in translation online so I apologize if my comment caused anyone to take offense.

Whenever I read anything online I often think of one of my favorite lyrics...
"And I feel like I'm naked in front of the crowd
Cause these words are my diary, screaming out loud
And I know that you'll use them, however you want to..."

I guess I need to work harder to think of that lyric when I type too since I tend to come across so very different than I intended :)

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[> [> Re: Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- marceline, 06:35:58 05/18/09 Mon [1]

I agree that SoapCentral's response to this situation has been seriously lacking. I'd actually call it unprofessional.

Raven has been a major driver of traffic to that site for years. Many people came to their boards every weekend only for Raven's scoops. As a webmaster part of me wonders if they're trying to keep up the illusion that Raven is still there so that traffic doesn't drop off too drastically.

They owe her better.

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[> [> Re: Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- California Soap-Watcher, 08:40:56 05/18/09 Mon [1]

I have come to this site to post my good-byes to Raven, because any posts related to her decision to quit are not being allowed on the SOC site. I have notices two posts begin about the subject that were almost immediately deleted. When asked, I was told that it was not related to any AMC topic and that it would only lead to speculation and unfounded gossip, so they are not allowing it. I await the day that all the negativity ends and fans are allowed to post fun topics without being shouted down by those that don't like what they have to say. Good-bye, Raven. You will be missed. Peace out.

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[> [> Re: Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- bobbymartin46, 07:52:20 05/22/09 Fri [1]

I tried to alert the SOC AMC message board readers on Monday of your decision to terminate your spoiler/casting speculation column at VoyForums, but it was removed by the Message Board Moderator(Message Board Censor???) within 10 minutes of its posting. Apparently your departure is off-topic to AMC discussion. For all your years of contrubutions to SOC, I would have believed they would have allowed you a proper farewell. Kind of reminds me of how AMC treated Julia Barr when she left. Just pretended she never existed. On a more positive note. Thank-you for all your years contributing to SOC. I looked forward to your column every week. You will be sorely missed.

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[> [> Re: Disappointed with SOC and saddened by your resignation. -- Patsy Sweeney (Sad), 13:34:25 06/08/09 Mon [1]

The subject of my thread, which I posted on SOC read "Am I blind?" I wrote "I can't find my friend! Someone please tell me where is Raven? Thanks to anyone who will answer and let me know."
It was posted for a few minutes but you couldn't open it to read. I then searched the SOC for her name, but she did not come up. A sick feeling came over me and I was so sad, but I found you Raven, as all your fans will!
Raven you are an amazing positive person! Really, you are just a lovely soul! You were a real life heroin for the soaps. You always were so warm and welcoming to "pull up a chair" and enjoy your cleverness and dish. You are a clear champion of respect and fairness! SOC's major loss.
I only went to SOC to eagerly read what my friend Raven had to say. A proper sendoff from SOC, acknowledging Raven Beauty for her talents and tireless contributions is simply essential. Someone with any business sense at SOC should remedy the ungrateful oversight, immediately; or it will surely play out dreadfully for the website.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, dear Raven! Good luck!Keep us posted cause we care! Patsy

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