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Subject: Real ID on Lou Dobbs 4-24-09


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Jackie Juntti
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Date Posted: 07:31:30 04/25/09 Sat



I am no fan of the REAL ID in any way shape or form - want to make that clear to start with.
Before this government (many administrations) refused to enforce immigration laws we didn't have this ID problem. It is all part and parcel of NUMBERING EACH HUMAN BEING like the slaves they consider us to be. A Legal American can prove they are Americans without all this technical garbage but that isn't the goal of these OWO thugs. The underlying reason for not enforcing immigration laws, for keeping the borders open - etc., is to use the Hegelian and Dialectic methods to get us to holler out for **REAL ID** - please number us - please brand us - we are yours, massah government.

This segment from Lou Dobbs last night was very interesting and I hope readers will find the time to read it. Lots was said here that needs to be known by WGEN readers.

Jackie Juntti
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Lou Dobbs 4/24/09

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/24/ldt.01.html

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And the push to kill Real ID I'll be joined by Peter Gadiel, he's president of 9/11 Families for a Secure America. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

DOBBS: The Homeland Security official whose agency was responsible for a controversial report on so-called right-wing extremists, has been replaced. Roger Macklin, a Bush administration holdover, was transferred out of DHS to the office of Director of National Intelligence, according tolished reports. An agency spokesman said the transfer had been in the works and wasn't regted to the report.

The report, among other things, claimed that some of our veterans were prime candidates for recruitment by right-wing extremists. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has been criticized for that DHS report and her recent comments on repealing the Real ID act have led to new calls for her resignation.

Real ID, based on a key recommendation of the 9/11 Commission, calls for new standards for state driver's licenses. Those new standards would make it more difficult for terrorists to obtain valid identity documents, here in the United States.

Joining me now, Peter Gadiel, who's president of 9/11 Families for a Secure America.

Good to have you with us.

Thank you for having me in.

DOBBS: This has been a remarkable week and I would think particularly from your perspective, in which the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security has informed Canadians that 9/11 terrorists crossed their border with us into the United States, one in which she issued -- her agency issued that report, and at the same -- that we just referred to on right-wing extremism, and at the same time rejected Real ID. What is your reaction?

PETER GADIEL, PRES 9/11 FAMILIES FOR A SECURE AMERICA: Well, I think her admission that she doesn't know how the 9/11 terrorists got into the country in itself shows that she's utterly unqualified for the job that she holds. She also didn't know that illegal immigration is a crime.

This is a woman who is totally, unbelievably ignorant and the idea of repealing Real ID amounts to nothing more than saying I want to facilitate another 9/11. There can be no other explanation that this woman does not understand how 9/11 happened, what is necessary to prevent another one or she doesn't care that her politics are so skewed in favor of racist groups like LARASA, and the far-left of the Democratic party, like the ACLU, the soros when MoveOn.org win (ph), that she's incapable of making a rational decision.

DOBBS: I think we should also point out that the right-wing of the Republican Party, which includes the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, amongst others.

GADIEL: Most definitely, yeah. American Manufacturer Association, bankers, you name it, a whole line of industries.

DOBBS: So, where are the American people with -- they have a president who said that there would be amnesty, who has said that it will be part of his principle initiative this year. We have a Department of Homeland Security secretary who rejects the idea of secure documents, that is Real ID, who obviously has displayed just immense ignorance of both the history of this country, particularly where it pertained to the fundamental issue of the security of the country that she's responsible for, now.

GADIEL: I don't know what the answer is. Our government is so corrupt, our Congress is so controlled by lobbyists that I don't know that there's a way out of this mess. I never thought it would be possible for this country to come one a president worse than George W. Bush, but I think we have.

DOBBS: Really.

GADIEL: Yeah, I think we have. I think in the first 100 days, this man is showing, this Obama is showing that he is the captive of the far left-wing of his party, just as George Bush, in his open borders policy, was a captive of the capitalist, large big business wing of his party.

The result is the same policy, in terms of borders, one resulting from pressure from the right, the other from pressures from the left. But the result is the same. -- Americans suffer. We have a country that is -- we have a DHS secretary who does not comprehend the role that drivers licenses played in the 9/11 attacks. And she clearly is part of the administration's attack on Real ID.

Mr. Obama has appointed Hilda Solis, the woman who was an effective agent, yeah, as secretary of labor, who was rabidly in favor of giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. And when you give licenses to illegal aliens you are inevitably giving licenses to the unknown terrorists and violent criminals among them. And it defies logic.

DOBBS: You seen, tonight, at any time, more than at any time since I've talked to you, you seem resigned.

GADIEL: I am resigned, because after seven years of our group lobbying in Washington, and various state capitals, against giving licenses to illegals and the unknown terrorists among them, I -- the forces, the powers on the other side, in terms of lobbying assets from the chamber of commerce, you know, manufacturers, bankers, LARASA, ACLU, the whole works, left and right is so enormous, so overwhelming, that don't think the American people can really counter-act that influence. It's just not possible. We don't have the organized whatever it is that these groups have.

DOBBS: I think we used to call it representation in our nation's capital. Maybe we can find that, let's hope so and I have got to say this, Peter, I hope you're, I very much, powerfully hope you're wrong. Appreciate you being here.

GADIEL: Thank you.

DOBBS: Peter Gadiel.

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