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Date Posted: 13/02/19 6:44pm
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Interesting research polls about strange or intrusive medical and psycological exams or procedures kids and adults are subjected to. You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. The polls already have a lot of interesting testamonials you can read and comment upon.
If the links are not active, you can copy them and use them in the address line of your browser where they will work.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:
http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395
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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:
http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327
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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:
http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976
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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:
http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807
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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias
https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/625773
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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.
Knut Holt
aquila_grande@yahoo.no
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http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm
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THE LATEST RESULTS FORM MY POLLS
Man between 50 and 69yo, two cystoscopies
A male friend had cystoscopy. The exam took place in North America, USA, 50 -59 years old, 60 - 69 years old, Year 2005 and 2011.He had cystoscopy in a health centre.
He got an accurate explanation of what should be done and the reason. Driven there by friend.
PREPARATIONS
Got a hospital gown before going to bed. A doctor came, asked questions and explained. A consent formula was presented and signed. He got lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the urethra. Had a gown around him, but the lower body was naked. He lay on back with streight legs.
HOW THE PROCEDURE WAS DONE
They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They also inspected anus with a scope.
ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM
No special arrangements. Got hormonal therapy or other medication for development disturbances. The reason was problems with urination.
It was useful. It was not any big deal.
COMMENTS
This seemed to be a normal cystoscopy procedure. Inspection through the anus is also common at the same time. Possibly this was an ultrasound exam of the prostate. The hormonal therapy mentioned seems to indicate that the prostate was the problem.
Knut Holt
http://www.mydeltapi.com
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Boy, 13yo, North America, extensive pelvic procedure ordered by boarding school
I am male. It happened in North America, 1980-1989, 13 years old. They said just that I was going to the doctor. I went there alone by myself to a doctors office. I was told to ride my bike there and that it was all arranged.
PREPARATIONS AND ARRANGEMENT
They washed my body before the exam. My stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine. I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam.
I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up, spread and mounted upon two devices. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a tube or wire in through my urethra.
I got a tube or sond in through my anus.I got anesthesia through a tube into my anus that had effect on my whole body.I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening. I was mostly awake during the procedure despite anesthesia given.They put the tube in my butt and flushed me out and then put something in me that made me relax. They put a tube in my penis and I started to pee through it.
EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT
They used electrodes at my chest to record body functions.They used electrodes at my belly to record body functions.They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.
INTERNAL INSPECTIONS
They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube.They took specimens from my bladder with a tube.
I had to give a semen sample and a nurse masturbated me off for it My parents picked me up afterwards. I was erected for a long time after the tests.
They took specimens from my anus with a tube.The doctor explored my anus with a finger.
ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM
I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. I then just lay some time in a bed to recover.I lay naked under a blanket after the exam.
THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED
I attended private boarding school.It was a local boarding school I got sent to and came home on weekends. Hated it and got kicked out for fighting.
COMMENTS
The arrangements afterwards show that they also did someting inside his anus and colon with scopes or other instruments, but he was probably asleep during that part of the ordeal and does not remember it.
In some societies and schools, especially boarding schools, one have very strict standards for what is wanted bahavior and correct bodily functions. It seems like one have a theory that unwanted bahavior is caused by deviations in the genitals, urinary system and lower digestive system. Kids that do not conform to the standards are nearly always sent to intrusive examinations in the intimate area like that described here.
Often one will also make adjustments inside the initimte organs to correct behavior and make bodily functions more regular. The preparations and arrangements afterwards, suggest that they changed someting inside the pelvic are of the boy. But it did not seem to have the wanted effect.
Knut Holt
http://www.abicana.com
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Girl, 12yo, Eastern Europe, thorrough exam when comming to orphanage
I am female. It happened in Eastern Europe, 1990-1999, 12 years old I was being taken to an orphanage because my parents had died and I had no family. This was part of the induction process. I was driven there by authorities. The exam was done at the orphanage.
It happened children in foster care homes or the like. All the new kids brought to the orphanage had this exam.
PREPARATIONS
I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I got laxatives to clean out my stomach at the place where the exam took place. They washed my body before the exam. I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach. My stomach was also cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.
I was totally naked through all the procedures. The staff took my clothes of some time before the anesthesia had made its effect. I had to strip totally naked before the exam.
They placed me upon a simple examination table. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices. I was placed to lay on my stomack with streight legs. I was placed to lay on my stomach with my legs flexed down and spread. I wa placed to lay on my right side.
I got lubricating and numbing cream into my vagina. The anesthesia only took away pain. I was mostly awake during the procedure despite anesthesia given.
The first thing they did was cut my hair short to below chin length, and go over my body checking for hair which they shaved off. They said all children in this orphanage must remain hairless as long as they stay and we would be periodically checked and shaved.
EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT
I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed. They examined my stomach area with an ultrasound device or something similar. They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.
INTERNAL INSPECTIONS
They used a speculum in my vagina. They inspected me through my vagina with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.
My vagina was very thoroughly cleaned including all around my clitoral hood. Two doctors worked on me together doing it all very quickly like it had to be over with soon. They rubbed my vagina a lot and made remarks on how it could get wet.
ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM
I lay naked under a blanket after the exam. They took a urine sample I was brought to the orphanage nude told that we would all be seeing each other unclothed frequently so a new arrival would be nude for a while to get used to it. It was boys and girls of all ages.
THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED
I went to some other type of school. The orphanage had its own school.
COMMENTS
This was a thorrough health check that all children in all parts of the world undergo whan they are internated into some institution, but the particularities, like the intimate check is seldome talked about.
Testing by stimulation of some kind in the intimate zone is also often done to observe reaction in order to assess the development stage and to test for reactions that may be symptoms of sexual abuse. This is also something seldom spoken about.
It is however not usual that new children have to be completely nude among others some time, and also shaved,but similar things occur in some institutions.
But the preparation and cleaning before the exam suggest that more was done than the girl remembered. It is possible that they put her to sleep and performed endoscopic inspections into her bladder and into her anus and colon too, but that the anesthesia hindered her from remembering.. These procedures are quite commonly done on istitutionalized children, but again very seldom talked about.
Knut Holt
http://www.mydeltapi.com
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Girls 11yo,12yo, Russia, extensive exams and testings in Montessory school
Thos os about my doughters 11yo and 12yo in 2015 an later, and things arranged by the Montessori school they attended. Exams were part of attending the school. We parents drove them sometimes to the exam, other times they got there in a bus in group from school, to a special establishment used for these type of exams. Still other times it happened at aspecial medical room in the school apart from the nurse's office.
It seemd sometimes to happen to our children of the age group in our community. At other times to a selected percentage of thechildren in their school of the age group.
Being tested and examined was a condition to going to school
Both my daughters 9 and 12 were examined and experimented on.
PREPARATIONS
They was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. The staff washed their body before the exam. They got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out their stomach. The stomach was also cleaned out by a tube incerted into their anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.
They were totally naked through all the procedures. They placed them upon a simple examination table. They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. They were placed to lay on their back with their legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices. They was placed to lay on their stomach with their legs flexed down and spread.
They got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in their blood. They got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. They got electrodes on their cheast, on their stomach, hip region, legs, head.
They got a tube or wire in through their urethra. They got a tube or sond in through their anus.
Sometimes they did not get any anesthesia. Sometimes they got anesthesia through tubes into their blood vessels. They got lubricating and numbing cream into their vagina. They got ome numbing and lubricating cream injected into their anus.
Sometimes they paralyzed their whole body and They got artificial breathing.
The anesthesia made them relaxed but They were conscious.
EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT
They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on their chest and other body areas.
They examined their upper body, their stomach, hip area, arms and legs with an ultrasound device or something similar.
They took chest x-ray pictures of their stomach, shoulder area, hio area, and their limbs.
They used electrodes to record functions inside their head, their chest and their belly.
They examined their genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at their genitals to record functions in this area.
INTERNAL INSPECTIONS
They ispected the inside of their nose with a scope They inspected the inside of their throut with a scope.
The doctor explored their vagina with a finger.They inspected the inside of their urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from their urethra with a tube. They took specimens from their bladder with a tube. They used a speculum in their vagina. They took specimens from their vagina with a tube. They inspected their vagina with a scope. They inspected them through their vagina with an ultrasound probe.
The doctor explored their anus with a finger.They inspected them through their anus with an ultrasound probe.
They inspected their anus with a speculum. They took specimens from their anus with a tube. They inspected them through their anus high up with a flexible scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope.
They made an opening in their belly button or just under it and inspected the inside of their belly with a scope.
PHYSIOLOGICAL TESTINGS
Made their breasts grow and produce milk. Did something to stomach to make it look like they were 8 months pregnant Woke up thinking in weird dream seeing their stomach open but no surgery scar
ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE ORDEALS
They held them inconscious for some hours They had breathing tube. They had IVs into blood vessels. They had catheter into their bladder. They had a tube going in through their nose or down into their stomach. They lay with their legs in stirrups some time after the exam. It took a few hours before returning to school
THE SCHOOL THEY WENT TO
They went to a Montessori school. Was Montessori type school ages 8-18 excellencent teachers ran by medical research corporations on their property. Kids got free education to be experimented on.
COMMENTS
This is basically a standardized exam procedure used on kids in selelected schools and communities in all parts of the world and coordinated by some international organization, orobably WHO. Researech is often a reason for the procedure. Montessori schools are vety often involved. It is fairly common, but not talked about to the public.
In this case it was extended by some physiological experiments involving simulated pregnancy and milk secretion. I have other accounts of this type of testing from Russia.
Knut Holt
http://www.mydeltapi.com
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Girl 8yo, North America, used as research guinea pig and for sexual abuse
I am a female. I was a school-aged child, 8 Year old, year 2000 or after, in North America. I was examined at home, in a house in the country. Who did the exam? about 50 different men.
OVERVIEW OF THE EXAM
They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They inserted instruments into my urinary opening. They inserted instruments into my vagina. They inserted instruments into my rectal opening.
ARRANGEMENTS
I was sedated but awake.
THE ORDEAL STEP BY STEP
First enema and vaginal douch. Then strapped down on exam table. Then each man examined me. Then each man used my mouth for intercource. At least enema and vaginal douch.
REASON AND JUDGEMENT
What do you think was the reason for this exam? molestation. What is your opinion about thios experience? I was excited during the experience and i get excited remembering it.
URINARY AND GENITAL EXAM
They did not examne my urinary system. They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. They took speciments (pap smears etc) from my vagina with an instrument.
They performed an outer ultrasound exam of my female genitals and lower tummy area. They perfomed an ultrasound exam through my vagina. They also felt my uterus and overies.
RECTAL EXAM
They took some measurements inside my rectum or bowel with a long tube-like instrument.
OTHER MOMENTS AND FOLLOW-UPS
The exam took a very long time. New exams as follow up, mostly with dildos and vibrators.
COMMENTS
By 50 men perfoming these thing in one session, the account is not possible. But I think this ordeal might have repeated itself many times, possible through some years, and then as many as 50 men and women might have examined her, or the same persons repeating it. The anesthesia might have distorted the memory and left an impression of 50 men doing this in one session.
I guess that the girl was used as gunea pig in a kind of governmental project where one researched develoment of body structures in children and tested sexual reactions. The things called dildos might have been medical research instruments. A permanet reaction involving exitement by memorizing the ordeal might then have developed.
The parents probably got money for letting the girl be used, but they might have been forced to let the girl be used too. Using a child this way is of cource abuse, not less serious than ordinary sexual abuse.
But it is possible that the scientists also began using the girl for sexual acts too, so that the allready abusive research activities got combined with sexual abuse in the ordinary sense too. This is not the first account I have seen that points to this happeneing. So the oral intercourse mentioned may still be somethinmgs that really happened. But also this could have been handlings with some scientific instrument in her mouth.
Knut Holt
http://www.mydeltapi.com
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Girl 14yo-15yo - Assesment about and therapy for body attitudes and feelings
I am a female. It occured at 14-16 years old, 8 times each year, 1998-2002, in North America, Canada.
I was examined in a health centre,therapist's office specifically. I took my bike to the ordeals. 2 psychologists, a man and a woman examined me. Also were present other patients mostly older teens.
OVERVIEW OF THE EXAMS
They examined my genitals. They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life. Any other kind of exam. It was a Desensitization therapy to get me used to being seen naked. The first session involved slowly being encouraged to disrobe but from then on it was naked to start.
Many patients were getting therapy in a group, encouraged to look at each other closely and explore.
THE ORDEALS STYEP BY STEP
The first thing they did with me:. had us all undress stark naked. Secondly sat and had long therapeutic discussion of the human body and why it is okay to be nude with others. Them had us look at each other and compare parts. The psychologists also disrobed and illustrated parts on themselves (their whole bodies were shaved). Then encouraged us to shave our pubic hair so our genitals would be more visible for the group. They also discussed our fears about our bodies The exam ended by reminder to stay nude in our homes and encouragement to try undressing in front of friends. They showed us a lot of pictures and videos of a variety of body types different genitals etc . We were each videotaped urinating and the video shown to the group.
REASON AND JUDGEMENT
What do you think was the reason for this exam? My parents wanted me to not care about being seen naked anymore. What is your opinion about thios experience? It's strange because they raised me to be VERY shy about my body until this point.
PELVIC ASSESSMENT
I perhaps do not remember exactly how they examined my urinary system but they did something down there like: gently touched my urethra, palpated my outer female genitals, spread my genital lips to look inside.
They also encouraged me to touch myself and show others how wet and sticky I got, because it's part of the body.
They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an inserted finger.
FURTHER MOMEMENT
A third psychologist came in once to ask us individually how we were feeling about this therapy. We were encouraged to talk about excitement or fetishes involving nudity to illuminate our hangups .The exam took a very long time. each session took 3 hours.
DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP
It took me a long time to not be moritified but it was exciting and I did eventually get comfortable New exams as follow up please specify: This therapy went on 8 times a year for 4 years
COMMENTS
I guess that the parents had concerns about the bodily development of this girl and for possible sexual activities which they might not approve. They then wanted somebody to check her and wanted also to make her willing to be intimately checked by the parents and for this reason consulted the psychologists.
I guess that the whole of this therapy was not exactly what the parents wanted, and that they did not understand what happened in the first place but might have accepted the whole of it because they also got the assurance they wanted. I guess that the parents all the way talked with the psychologists about findings related to their concerns.
This kind of therapy seemed bo be offered around the world from 1970es and up to the early 2000es. Nowadays, however, therapists that offer this kind of therapy run the risk of being busted for sexual abuse if they offer it by own initiative.
But ordeals like this probably still occur as research projects instituted and approved by the government.
It is diificult to know of this therapy was something offered by the government, or something these thearpists had established. It looks however that parts of the ordeal also was twisted in a way that gave the therapists themselves sexual gratification.
Knut Holt
http://www.mydeltapi.com
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