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Date Posted: 11:07:20 02/09/10 Tue
I finally had a chance to catch up with my Miss State this morning and get the scoop on Mis America week. It was fun hearing about all the backstage gossip!
I'd been noticing comments here and there on this board that Caressa was not well-liked among the contestants. Of course I took it with a grain of salt, chalking it up to sour grapes- someone out there says that about every winner!
HOWEVER, very similar remarks came from the lips of my Miss State, totally unprovoked! I won't say who she is, but she is not a "drama queen", and I trust her completely. So to hear her confirm this now gives me pause to consider all the other people on here who have been saying the same thing!
She said that Caressa hardly if ever spoke to any of the other contestants, and as far as that hyper-bubbly personality, she only "turned it on" when it counted (as in, when a camera or an MAO exec was around!) The rest of the time, she couldn't be bothered. She didn't even talk to her own roommate while they were alone in their room!
We've heard this before about other girls throughout the years. Every year there seems to be at least one contestant who is notoriously disliked for being an ice queen! However, sometimes the ice queen makes it all the way to 1st RU or Miss America! What do you think? Is it just the way some people handle being super-focused? Or do you think it makes for a disingenuous winner? Should Miss America be nicey-nice and genuine all the time, even if nobody is watching? Or should she save it for when the cameras are rolling?
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- I heard the very same thing from a few miss states, and to be honest, I don't think she has the zing and personality that Katie had. She is not very photogentic and from people who were there and witnessed it, she just turns it on for the cameras. That will get old as this job is a 24/7 job and I bet her business travel partner will have some issues to deal with. Well, it is what it is. (NT) -- No name, 11:11:52 02/09/10 Tue
 (NT) -- Ice Queen!, 11:18:11 02/09/10 Tue
- Heard the same thing! This is truly disappointing. I am sure she will serve the Organization well and "turn it on" when necessary. But man, why can't she just have "it" naturally. Certainly not a Shannon Beam (Miss Personality)... and no I am not from VA... I am from PA (NT) -- No name, 11:33:00 02/09/10 Tue
- I've commented before that there should be a silent judge around so the not so nice girls either don't do well or are forced to be nice but somone pointed out that they don't want a "nice Miss America". (NT) -- No name, 11:33:26 02/09/10 Tue
- She won, get over it. Your beloved Rush loved her and she won, get over it. (NT) -- No name, 11:40:48 02/09/10 Tue
- I don't see what me liking Rush has to do with this, and I'm aware that she won, so thanks for the update, Gibroni. I knew she would win when the top 15 were called out. But her onstage persona and her real life persona clearly are two different things. I personally don't think it should be that way. Granted there really is no way to fool-proof a pageant; it seems like anyone can fool the judges into liking them in 10 minutes. The suggestion someone else made about "secret judges" or observers would be interesting if tested. So often you see the girls let their guard down and show their true colors during the exhausting weeks of rehearsals, etc. If they can't handle two weeks without turning into a b&$%^, how are they going to handle 365 days of it? (NT) -- No name, 11:45:42 02/09/10 Tue
- Even I don't deny that what the judges saw was worthy of the Miss A crown... but what was going on behind the scenes is what we are talking about... I don't regret her winning... just a shame (if) she is not very outgoing or warm (NT) -- No name, 11:59:08 02/09/10 Tue
- I feel the same way. No sour grapes here at all but I'm wondering how she is going to be able to turn it on all the time? Once the flashbulbs have stopped flashing so much and she's in hospitals with sick kids will she be full of compassion? I just hope she represents the organization well. (NT) -- No name, 12:46:47 02/09/10 Tue
- These comments can be said about every Miss America, nothing new here, just people trying to start some shit . .. . (NT) -- No name, 13:36:07 02/09/10 Tue
- I'm the OP and I'm not trying to "start some shit". She won, and nothing we say on this anonymous little corner of the web will change that, nor should it. However, we have a right to discuss whatever we want so long as it's not outright slander or bullying. It's not just me who heard this, and it's not just my state titleholder who is confirming it. This is a legit discussion. Either contribute or scroll on by. (NT) -- No name, 14:34:45 02/09/10 Tue
- Oh yea, totally bashing our new Miss America is completely legitimate!!!!! (NT) -- Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight . . . ., 16:25:20 02/09/10 Tue
- How is it bashing? I have never once written anything half as bad as most of the people on here. I have never called Miss America ugly, fat, or any of the other horrible things people have said about her and her appearance. In fact, since day one I have always said I knew she was the winner as soon as the top 15 were known. Sorry you see it as bashing, but I see it as a conversation. (NT) -- No name, 16:28:13 02/09/10 Tue
- Anyone, anywhere, by any means necessary, can justify any thing as long as it suits their agenda. Your agenda is to suggest that Caressa is not a nice person. (NT) -- No name, 16:31:23 02/09/10 Tue
- You don't know me, so don't presume to speak for me. My agenda was to open a discussion. And I did. As it evolves, I find it more interesting. Now the new question, in my mind, is whether we as pageant people are creating ice queens ourselves. Ever since the advent of the internet, you can draw a clear line between the MAO system of yesteryear and the MAO culture as we know it today. Today, everyone is fair game to get viciously bashed, have rumors made about them, etc. In the old days, nobody would know much about their competition, but these days, the girls read up every little factoid on each other, and rivalries and tension are formed before they even show up to compete. I think it's an interesting (sad, but interesting) subject that we should talk about- is the pageant culture itself ultimately responsible for putting its own contestants constantly on the defense? (NT) -- No name, 16:41:55 02/09/10 Tue
- I happen to know that he did not rank Caressa 1st (NT) -- No name, 12:39:27 02/09/10 Tue
- I personally get super focused when I am in competition mode. I am never unpleaseant or rude to other girls, but I am in my zone. (NT) -- No name, 12:11:17 02/09/10 Tue
- I was told by some (no drama starters by any means) that they didn't think Caressa had any fun at pageant. That she was cold and calculating and actually quite mean. (NT) -- No name, 12:40:56 02/09/10 Tue
- Caressa might have changed her ways within the past year, but what about at Miss VA (when Tara Wheeler won) and Caressa was 1st RU .. Everything you heard out of her family's mouth was negative and then she pulled out the race card and said, "They gave me 1st RU b/c I was black.." (NT) -- Then at this year's pageant her and her "people" were jumping for joy and praising Jesus. (She knows who to be nice too..), 12:47:23 02/09/10 Tue
- Worked with Caressa -- No name, 13:29:13 02/09/10 Tue
- Ok Now I have to say something. I have known Caressa for 4 years. She is generally silent and evasive during the pageant because she is focused on winning which every girl is. She NEVER had her cell taken and she never made a racism comment on the stage in 2008. I know because I was there. Get over it she won and I'm proud to say she is Miss America. (NT) -- Pageant_Bug, 13:34:00 02/09/10 Tue
- I'm a volunteer with the organization, and crowning Caressa has made me question everything. If this is what it all comes down to, crowning who, IMHO is a terrible person, then what's the use? There were so many girls there who truly deserved to win because they were pure of heart and didn't have to turn anything "on" depending on who was looking. But the mean one with without a genuine bone in her body wins. I know the judges had no way of knowing, but what about justice as it relates to life? Why do the bad win and the good stand clapping? (NT) -- No name, 14:00:04 02/09/10 Tue
- I've competed with Caressa on multiple occasions, and she's not just "competitive," she's flat out mean to the other contestants (inside and outside of the pageant). The fact that amazing girls like Hannah and Tara aren't rewarded, and fake one's like Caressa are is a huge let-down for me. (NT) -- No name, 14:01:10 02/09/10 Tue
- I don't know Caressa and have no idea if she is a bitch or not but let's face it. Some people are nice. Some people aren't. Stands to reason that since all Miss Americas are people, some are nice and some are not. (NT) -- Just Sayin', 14:24:39 02/09/10 Tue
- Well I will tell you what my contestant also said to me. No one in the Alpha group was happy when Caressa won because she was and I quote "a bitch". She never talked with the girls and always had attitude with those she thought were her competition. ENough said Miss America is about morals and values and Caressa is a talented girl but she is not beautiful and certainly she is not nice. I must say even my girl said that when the top 5 were waiting for the call they were all shouting NM name or LA, no one wanted Caressa to win. But hey whats done is done and as much as she is our Miss America there is a reality and the girl again is not nice or pretty. I guess in years to come we should just take an american idol contestant that speaks nice, dont matter if she is ugly or has an ugly outfit or and ugly personality or an ugly body. (NT) -- No name, 14:30:33 02/09/10 Tue
- This really is a shame to hear, but I'm sure that Caressa isn't the first "not so nice" Miss America..and she won't be the last. However, its not the end of the world and I don't think its our place to talk negatively about the girl when she already has the crown. I just think its a shame that she couldn't go to Miss America and succeed while also building friendships and being friendly with the other girls there. Too bad. (NT) -- No name, 14:37:54 02/09/10 Tue
- Interestingly, I know that in 2006, when a fellow competitor at Miss Virginia experienced a problem with her Jamye Shaw swimsuit before preliminary competition, Caressa GAVE (loaned...whatever) this fellow competitor her Jamye Shaw suit. Caressa allowed that contestant to wear the suit not only during preliminaries but during the final competition, as well. The fellow competitor was Adrianna Sgarlata who went on to be crowned Miss Virginia that year. (NT) -- If I was experiencing my one shot at Miss America, I don't think I'd be there to audition bridesmaids either. Go, Caressa!, 14:39:24 02/09/10 Tue
- i've competed with Caressa a few times on both local and state level. Is she mean? no. Is she quiet? yes. But if you need honest advice or to borrow something from the "tool kit" she is right there. Caressa is rough around the edges but after sitting through one of her speeches it is understandable. This girls life was rough, but as she shares her story and her drive to inspire people to take life into their own hands no excuses is moving. I was a competitor who made the mistake of trusting everyone and pageant "friends" are the quickest you use your words against you, lie and gossip. If you say nothing it's a little harder to come up with something. and another thought did you ever stop to think people don't buddy up with the ones they fear? Nobody really talked to MiMi either because they were scared out of their minds! (NT) -- No name, 14:40:59 02/09/10 Tue
- no contestants really care about making bffs or having each others best at heart. I'd rather know you have no desire to be fake then waste energy all week dealing with the mind games or meaningless convo. This tread is pointless if she gets the job done lay off. If we did some character flaw research nobody is worthy (NT) -- No name, 14:43:25 02/09/10 Tue
- Not everyone has to act like a Miss Kentucky in order to be Miss America. Obviously Caressa treated this competition like a serious job interview, and she achieved her goal. We have to stop overreacting everytime people don't behave the way we deem is appropriate. (NT) -- No name, 14:48:19 02/09/10 Tue
- Why must discussing Caressa's ability or inability to win over a crowd make us "jealous", or "bitter", or " (NT) -- No name, 14:57:39 02/09/10 Tue
- A former who was considered "contender for the crown" in my state. Click in. -- CLICK IN- a former's experience (Devil's Advocate)., 15:35:13 02/09/10 Tue
- Thanks for your thoughtful, intelligent comments. I can see where you are coming from. However, having been "around", there are some that are threats, and some that you know are not your competition. Of course people will be on the offensive. The problem I have with all of this is that you can be either loved, hated, or respected by your competitors. In the case of Caressa, I don't find her the victim as you do. She wanted to be Miss America ultimately, and now she is. But look at the vote this year--I think the contestants were right on. They had in their mind a 1st runner-up, a top 10, a preliminary winner (who made it back again on their votes) and a top 12. You don't have to burn bridges in pageantry. As far as we know, nobody at Miss America had an axe to grind with Caressa, or likewise. I still think you are who you are at the end of the day, and I know plenty of Miss Americas who were beloved, plenty of state and local contestants, too. (NT) -- No name, 15:53:30 02/09/10 Tue
- Here's the other thing we have to consider though, when you have a bad experience somewhere, you tell EVERYONE you know about it. You are just one person, but the word gets around. Bad news travels much faster than positive. Therefore, you may not have burned bridges, but perhaps one "clique" of girls just didn't like you or your personalities just clashed (it happens!). 5-6 people out of the 53, then they tell their families, their families tell their friends, and so on and so forth. It's hard to tell on an anonymous message board how many people she has upset (or just have it out for her) and how many don't. Or if the people who "heard" this about her all heard it through the grapevine but it originated with the experience of one single person. In the pageant world, everyone knows everyone, so you just never know where these things start and how misconstrued they have become. You have to take this all with a grain of salt. (NT) -- Former again, 16:29:39 02/09/10 Tue
- Who do you think would have made the "better Miss (NT) -- No name, 15:57:02 02/09/10 Tue
- Who do you think would have made the "better Miss America" (NT) -- Your honest opinion, 15:57:30 02/09/10 Tue
- amen contender for the crown. CC's rough exterior due to her past coupled with the BS politics, backstabbing and preconcieved notions it makes a lot of sence. Girls tend to be mean to ones they are threatend by. I heard all week in vegas how much of a b&%_h MiMi was but I knew it was a bunch of scared contestants who weren't trying to be her friend either. (NT) -- No name, 16:00:04 02/09/10 Tue
 You are a sad, sad person to come on here and start this about our new Miss America not even two weeks removed of her crowning. What could you (as a volunteer, I'm assuming) possibly see as a positive to post such nasty remarks at this time? It's not like they're going to "decrown" her because someone's feelings were hurt or because Caressa was not sugary sweet to your miss state. What did you as the OP expect to acccomplish with this post? This is not beneficial to the MAO. (NT) -- Think before you type that little piece of juicy gossip next time. It may really be irrelevent and nonbeneficial., 16:06:54 02/09/10 Tue
- Or it may be both relevant and beneficial. Miss America is supposed to be a role model, not an egotistical "Brats" doll. I hope that the MAO is more careful in the future. (NT) -- No name, 16:19:41 02/09/10 Tue
- She strikes me as someone original poster described. This just confirms it. Too bad Miss Congenialities never won Miss Americas. -- No name, 16:37:15 02/09/10 Tue
- now you get why she isn't pleasant to "pageant people"? they crucified her and called her a crack made delinquent and her family regular Ni%%ers trying to come up. She's involved in this program to educate people on her platform and be a real life inspiration. Not make nice with people who'd use her story against her. Should she hold grudges no, but i'm sure those scars run deep (NT) -- followed since teen, 17:21:57 02/09/10 Tue
- ooooh so that's the "past" she referenced in the post crowning press interview. (NT) -- it's all coming together., 17:27:44 02/09/10 Tue
- i'm surprised she even wanted to compete after being burned like that by pageant people. When your in a competition setting girls want to share and that story is pretty heavy to share especially if she was burned by it before. She probably doesn't start relationships on purpose as protection. But what is strange is i've heard from girls she had a great sence of humar and had a close bond with RI, and Alaska. (NT) -- which is it?, 17:43:17 02/09/10 Tue
- I'm from a neighboring state, and I have heard these things about Caressa for years. I have never met her, however, and will reserve my own judgment until I have. (NT) -- No name, 18:39:02 02/09/10 Tue
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