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Subject: Ellen loves Pageants!
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:30:23 11/25/09 Wed Ellen just "crowned" her staffer, Louise Wu, Miss Backstage, complete with crown, sash, septer, serenade and escort! She was in the top ten at Miss CA USA and Ellen has been following it and supporting her with "helpful" advice - LOL! I think she's hooked! Wouldn't it be great if she could be a judge, or better yet, emcee at Miss America?
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So she did make top 10! For anyone that was there, was it deserved? Just curious. (NT) -- No name, 10:38:50 11/25/09 Wed Ellen showed some clips and Louise looked very good. (NT) -- No name, 10:40:17 11/25/09 Wed Louise looked great! Thought she would have made the Top 5, and her OS Question would have probably been one of the better of the 5! Very bright lady! (NT) -- !, 10:41:39 11/25/09 Wed

Subject: 2009 Philadelphia Thanksgiving Parade
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 01:01:51 11/24/09 Tue Kirsten will be performing in the parade? Which other MAO titleholders will be participating in the parade?
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Miss Illinois Erin O'Connor in the Thanksgiving Day Parade. Thursday WGN Chicago at 8:00AM. (NT) -- No name, 01:25:25 11/24/09 Tue Miss NC & Miss SC & OTs will be in the Carolinas' Thanksgiving Day Parade (Charlotte NC), the fourth largest Thanksgiving parade in the United States. (NT) -- No name, 01:30:40 11/24/09 Tue Will Ryann be in the Philly parade? (NT) -- No name, 01:42:04 11/24/09 Tue Usually Miss Philly is not in this parade, but she is in the July 4 one. (NT) -- Anybody know if Ryann will be in? I'll watch if she is., 08:54:22 11/24/09 Tue It would seem that now that Miss America won't be in it, they would certainly want to have Miss Philadelphia in the Philadelphia parade! (NT) -- No name, 14:24:16 11/24/09 Tue Miss America 2008 will be in the parade; but I am such a big Rayann fan, would love to see more of her. (NT) -- No name, 14:25:49 11/24/09 Tue Will Miss NY be in the Macy's Parade? (NT) -- No name, 01:52:40 11/24/09 Tue traditionally Pa, NJ, and DE are in this parade together on one float. (NT) -- No name, 06:21:56 11/24/09 Tue Yes, and I heard that their teens are as well this year. (NT) -- All on the family float with Kirsten., 15:07:31 11/24/09 Tue This year it will be the MAOTeens on the float with some princesses. Not sure about the Misses. (NT) -- LBM, 15:07:46 11/24/09 Tue Hope someone will record Kirsten's performance and save it to YouTube. Looking forward to it. (NT) -- No name, 16:14:04 11/24/09 Tue I remember she did something really cute last year - was it Rockin' around the Christmas Tree? (NT) -- No name, 16:33:08 11/24/09 Tue Miss Michigan will be in "America's Thanksgiving Parade" in Detroit. (NT) -- No name, 16:53:59 11/24/09 Tue Is that nationally televised? (NT) -- No name, 18:44:35 11/24/09 Tue Check your local listings. It did for several years on a minor channel around my area, last year was with Kirsten. Haven't seen it last year, though. Not sure about this year. (NT) -- No name, 18:50:06 11/24/09 Tue Thanks, I will. (NT) -- No name, 19:01:39 11/24/09 Tue Check here http://www.theparade.org/thanks.php at the bottom of the page. The 1st hour will be broadcast in a lot of areas --don't know where Nicole is in the parade. (NT) -- No name, 09:02:28 11/25/09 Wed Thank you, just checked it out. I noticed that the parade company is sponsoring a Parade Princess Program with scholarships, for girls 18-24. Wonder why they wouldn't just contribute to their local community queens? (NT) -- No name, 09:37:43 11/25/09 Wed Part of the reason is that they are looking for someone to represent them and their organization. Note that the winner needs to be involved in communicty service AND know a lot about the parade. I think this is great, though. One more way for young woment to earn money for school! (NT) -- No name, 10:22:44 11/25/09 Wed This is true. I just hope it doesn't mean that they won't be using the local queens anymore, though. (NT) -- No name, 10:37:09 11/25/09 Wed Miss Michigan will also be performing (dance) during the Lions/Packers halftime show. She will be part of the overall dance company, not performing as Miss Michigan. However, the camera always seems to find her. (NT) -- have fun Nicole!, 20:22:54 11/24/09 Tue Wonderful! (NT) -- No name, 21:22:08 11/24/09 Tue Wow, she's got a busy day! (NT) -- No name, 22:40:37 11/24/09 Tue Miss PA OT 2008 Julia Rae will once again be performing this year (NT) -- in the finale, 19:56:04 11/24/09 Tue

Subject: Am I imagining this??
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:05:49 11/24/09 Tue My daughter just traveled to shoot with a "world renowned" photographer and we got her proofs but I'm very upset because all her photos seemed to be focused on her chest area and not her face. I don't want to upset her but neither myself or my husband like this. Has anyone else noticed this?? I just saw a calendar and a website with a lot of his pixs and they all seem to be the same way. Should I say something??
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I don't know whom you could say anything to that could do anything about it. (NT) -- No name, 23:07:18 11/24/09 Tue Trying to decide if we should say something to her first of all! (NT) -- No name, 23:12:37 11/24/09 Tue Well, hasn't she seen the photos herself? I'm not sure I know what you mean about being focused on the chest area. Do you mean the face is blurry and the chest is in focus? I'm confused. (NT) -- No name, 23:14:24 11/24/09 Tue Yes, she has seen them but she was happy with them. They are more suited for Miss USA I think then Miss America. I wish I could give and illustration but that would be bad. (NT) -- No name, 23:35:11 11/24/09 Tue If she is happy with the photos, I would not say anything. (NT) -- No name, 23:45:27 11/24/09 Tue When you look at the the focus of the photo is the chest and not the eyes. It's hard to explain but I get a sick, dirty feeling from them. (NT) -- No name, 23:18:17 11/24/09 Tue No not Fadil, and I don't want to mention or bash the photographer or I would have mentioned it off the bate, What I am trying to accomplish in this post is to be aware of this we didn't take notice until it was our daughter photos. (NT) -- No name, 23:41:28 11/24/09 Tue Thank you (NT) -- No name, 23:44:55 11/24/09 Tue If you got this impression, then judges might. I'd at least mention it to her if you think the photos she's planning to use give off a vibe that she's not wanting to put out there. If she agrees with you, I'd contact the photographer about a re-shoot or at the very least a better job cropping in so that the chest is more 'out' of the picture. (NT) -- good luck! being a mom and a pageant fan is a hard line to walk!, 01:22:14 11/25/09 Wed Sounds like you need an impartial opinion to know what the truth is (NT) -- No name, 01:28:43 11/25/09 Wed I would chalk this up to experience and move on to another photographer. If you're just now looking at his work and noticing that this is a common theme - well, this is something you should have researched before you hired him. It is not fair to go back and ask for a reshoot, when he only did for you and your daughter what he has done for other clients. Obviously, this is his style. (NT) -- No name, 06:23:13 11/25/09 Wed I also have to ask - if he focus/attention seems to be on her chest rather than her face - what was your daughter wearing? I'm a photographer and there's no way I could "highlight" that area of the body unless the client was wearing something low-cut or revealing to begin with. (NT) -- No name, 06:35:21 11/25/09 Wed I also have to ask....why did you wait to look at the photographers work AFTER you got your photos back?? Didn't you see examples beforehand, and tell the photographer what you wanted as the end result? (NT) -- No name, 07:07:11 11/25/09 Wed I agree. I also suspect that the photographer's "world renowned" reputation is what got him hired and not actually reviewing his work. (NT) -- No name, 07:20:26 11/25/09 Wed Since you only have proofs at this time, I would discuss your concerns with your daughter, and go with a different photographer. (NT) -- No name, 07:28:43 11/25/09 Wed and I have not noticed any of the MAO pageant photographers that we are familiar with highlighting the girls boobs rather than her face. (NT) -- No name, 07:30:21 11/25/09 Wed I honestly didn't notice it until she was photographed. She had a gown on, but it's not more revealling then any of the other girls etc My daughter doesn't real have a large chest either. The photos where focused on the chest they did some messy hair stuff, head cropped from the top not focused on the eyes at all. No I didn't notice it we where told this was the "it" photographer to shoot with. (NT) -- No name, 08:17:39 11/25/09 Wed You didn't say how old your daughter is - were you present during the photo shoot? (not that it really matters, but I just wondered). (NT) -- No name, 08:20:30 11/25/09 Wed Wow. This sounds like stylistic stuff. Doesn't sound appropriate for MAO, though. YOur daughter may like them well enough because they are good photographs, but you may want to ask some local EDs for some input before going further with them. (NT) -- No name, 08:30:14 11/25/09 Wed My daughter is 15, yes I was there in and out of the room etc The guy and his wife who did the make up where great, very likable people and all but then we notice the little issue. (NT) -- No name, 08:44:53 11/25/09 Wed Well, perhaps there was no deliberate intent to photograph your daughter inappropiately. It could be this is just his style. I don't know if asking for a reshoot would help, though. You might have to just write off the sitting fee you paid and go with a different photographer. Let us know how you decide to work this out. (NT) -- No name, 09:00:00 11/25/09 Wed Maybe it was more about capturing your daughter at her most flattering angle. Why don't you call the photographer and ASK why he shot her that way instead of asking a bunch of anonymous posters on a message board that can't see the pictures? Usually headshots are cropped down from the proofs, so her chest won't likely even be in the picture - as it's a HEADshot. (NT) -- No name, 10:07:06 11/25/09 Wed

Subject: Miss America 2009 in New Orleans
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:49:04 11/25/09 Wed
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What a wonderful, heartwarming video. (NT) -- No name, 00:50:26 11/25/09 Wed It really is. Thanks for posting. And just a sidenote, look how gorgeous our Miss America looks with hardly any makeup and just a plain pony tail. (NT) -- Truly beautiful, in every way, 09:44:39 11/25/09 Wed

Subject: Here's one...what state winners did not win ANY prelims awards or interview awards this year? Any out there?
Author: Mr. DE 2008 [Edit]	Date Posted: 13:53:26 11/24/09 Tue
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South Carolina (NT) -- No name, 14:21:25 11/24/09 Tue SC won Overall Evening Gown (NT) -- Kelly fan, 16:12:46 11/24/09 Tue LA didn't win any this year. Very surprising win since there hasn't been a non-prelim winning Miss LA since Faith in 2000. (NT) -- No name, 14:27:08 11/24/09 Tue PA did not win any prelims THIS year, but has won talent in the past (NT) -- No name, 15:22:58 11/24/09 Tue Oregon, although she has one talent in previous years. Also, Oregon doesn't give swimsuit or evening gown awards at state. (NT) -- OR Fan, 15:42:47 11/24/09 Tue won - not one, lol (NT) -- No name, 15:43:08 11/24/09 Tue Yep - South Dakota! Imagine that. (NT) -- TyLie, 19:49:58 11/24/09 Tue Our state only does SS and talent prelims. I wonder how many states have evening gown and interview prelim awards as well? (NT) -- No name, 08:14:16 11/25/09 Wed

Subject: Our Beautiful Miss America on Fox
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:31:42 11/24/09 Tue http://video.foxnews.com/11891741/helping-hand
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You should go watch this! She is such a supporter of the program and I love how she speaks so comfortably. The staff love her! I won't be surprised to see her working there soon. (NT) -- No name, 12:04:35 11/24/09 Tue She is just adorable. She makes me proud to say we are part of this organization. (NT) -- Love her!, 14:21:44 11/24/09 Tue outstanding (NT) -- she's a natural, 14:45:46 11/24/09 Tue she could have said that there has been back to back winners! it was just way back when.... (NT) -- No name, 16:21:44 11/24/09 Tue What a great appearance! And I love the video of Katie using power tools!! Goooo Katie!! (NT) -- No name, 17:32:55 11/24/09 Tue (NT) -- No name, 00:50:08 11/25/09 Wed What a wonderful Miss America we have!!! A great woman to promote and represent this organization that changes the lifes of thousands of women each year!! GO KATIE AND MAO!!! (NT) -- :), 01:36:39 11/25/09 Wed We have been so very lucky to have all the formers this century. What a blessing they have been. (NT) -- No name, 01:58:20 11/25/09 Wed

Subject: PH
Author: No name [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:32:51 11/24/09 Tue Just got a email from PH about 25% off rooms if you book 61+ days in advance.

Subject: Don Baker clients/users/fans
Author: Thanks in advance! [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:28:14 11/24/09 Tue Can anyone tell me if his DVD 2 listed on his website has everything on DVD 1 PLUS new material, or if it is new info only? I figured my message board friends might be able to give me a quick answer!

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