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Subject: Re: Very confused


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Teresa (going through it too)
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Date Posted: 23:53:45 05/10/08 Sat
In reply to: Jen 's message, "Very confused" on 07:10:14 02/12/08 Tue

>I am very confused on my situation right now. My
>husband and I have been married a little over 6 yrs
>together, we have have known each other 8 years. We
>met on the internet with both of us getting out of
>previous marriages. I lived in California and he
>lived in Florida, in time I got pregnant with my
>daughter and moved to Florida to join him and within
>that time we had gotten married. When I first met him
>he was wonderful, caring, loving, and I thought that
>he was just the most charming man I ever knew!! I
>began to realize in the first year that he didn't like
>me having "men" friends. all my life I have had "men"
>friends, I get along with them, and I enjoy there
>company. He made me cut ties with a friend of mine I
>had for 15 yrs, because he thought that "him and I had
>too much of an emotional connection". I was kind of
>confused at the time, but didn't really think anything
>of it. I started to go behind his back, and talk to
>this man, because he was one of my friends. well when
>he found out, it was like world war 3, and all my
>fault, and I "cheated" on him, so he says, by talking
>to him. I, according to him, ruined our trust in our
>marriage, and that anything beyond that would be my
>fault. Again, I got scared that if I continued to
>talk to this man, that it would be a constant fight
>between my husband and I. It killed me to give up a
>friendship for my husband, but I thought that if I
>respected him enough I should do it to make him happy.
> I now question that, now in retrospect.
>
>After one more child, and a few more years of marriage
>we began to have a bit more problems with our
>marriage. He had an"online" relationship with
>someone, and planned on meeting her, he said he
>didn't, she said they did, but I don't believe him,
>but I forgave him, and moved on. As time went on,
>when things went wrong it was always my fault, "well
>you screwed up the bills" "well why are you going to
>the store and buying stupid stuff" "well why are you
>talking to people who are so nonsupporting" "you need
>to let go of your friends, and stop looking in the
>past and look in the future". He wouldn't let me talk
>about anything of his past, because he didn't want me
>to have him think of me as a bad person. I tried to
>explain to him that my past is important and I hold my
>past experiences dearly because this is how it got to
>be where I am today.
>
>Well the last few years, he decided to go to paramedic
>school, on top of playing in a volunteer fire dept
>that he adored. I gave up just about every night of
>the week for him to do something that made him happy.
>I was lonely, I was unhappy and I was miserable. I
>thought that he would never be there for me to babysit
>because his life is so busy and I wanted to make him
>happy. I ended up having an emotional affair with one
>of his friends, and he found out just recently.
>
>When that happened I realized I hadn't been happy for
>a long time, I was sick and tired of being blamed for
>everything, sick and tired of feeling trapped, and
>sick and tired of feeling lonely and guilty for
>everything. I went to a personal counselor, and he
>has been a great help. he has helped me realize that
>my husband is an emotional abuser, and controlling. I
>never even considered this about him, until recently.
>I have began to stand up to my husband, and make him
>accountable for his own actions. I remind him that
>not everything is my fault, and he needs to look in
>the mirror at times. He goes through these cycles of
>"poor me" "this is your fault" goes around hitting
>things and then becomes apologetic and says he'll
>change. In the times he claims he will change I
>believe him, but as itme goes on I realize it is not
>true. It has only been a month since I started
>standing up to him. Everyone including my my
>counselor and friends say I need to leave him because
>emotional abusers have a hard time changing. Leaving
>would be the hardest thing in my life, I have no job,
>I have three kids, and live 2500 miles away from any
>support. My mother is coming out here for 2 weeks and
>staying in a condo, if I decide to leave she is here
>to help me. I battle my feelings EVERYDAY, I don't
>know what the right answer, I can't handle the
>emotional roller coaster, and it effects my children.
>My husband told my daughter he hated me a few days
>after the affair, and now she is scared to death he
>hates me. He cries like a baby so everyone hears him
>and my 5 yr old wants me to hold her while he does it.
> That is not fair to her, she doesn't deserve it.
>When I threaten to leave he always tells me that this
>is my fault the marriage is ending, and that I have
>nothing, and I'm just going to run back into my
>family's arms. It is hard to not breakdown in front
>of him, but I stand my guard. He hates it, he says
>I'm an emotional wall that is nto breaking and he's
>tired of it. He claims that I did the cheating and he
>is paying the price, this is my fault that he is in
>pain and i "owe" him something. I begin to think I
>"owe" him something, I don't know what I "owe" him but
>I begin to believe it. I show him these thigns on
>emotional abuse and he freaks out, he doesn't want to
>believe it and gets angry when i look things up or
>talks about it.
>
>So HERE is my question, does this sound like a typical
>emotional abuser? I know he is, but I really need
>more evidence to myself to prove that "yes this is
>UNHEALTHY". I live in fear that he is going to try to
>put a restraining order on me. He has already turned
>the internet off, turned my cell phone off and turned
>my house phone off numerous times to "intimidate" me.
>I told him to go ahead and do it, and it just gives me
>more reason to leave. He says my counselor doesn't
>know him and he wants to go talk to my counselor
>himself to show him that I am at fault for his pain,
>and anger.
>
>I think he thinks something is wrong with him, but I
>do not believe he thinks he is an abuser, I think he
>thinks he just needs anger management and than that
>will cure him. He got put on zoloft, and goes to
>personal counseling, but I know he is just telling
>them all the stuff I do, and nothing more.
>
>I am at a crossroads right now, and I am looking for
>advice or reassurance for anyone out there who is
>going through the same sort of thing! Thanks for
>reading my BIG LONG story!! Venting feels good!



Hi Jen,

I can sooo relate to you. I am currently separated from my spouse of 12 years. He left me and our four children to "punish" me and prove a point. He thought I would come crawling back when he left but that didn't happen so he started to use his charm and empty promises to try and get me to say yes please come back. He had been verbally abusive for 8 years-constantly telling me how dumb I am and that I am nothing without him and I would be on the streets if it weren't for him.

When he left us he quit paying for our house so we lost that and my family got a place for me and the kids to live. But, I still struggle with not falling for his lies and empty promises. He is so charming and convincing when he wants to be but goes right back to the abusive behavior when he gets what he wants....and sometimes when he doesn't in order to scare me into giving him what he wants. Sometimes it seems like it would be easier just to take him back because financially it is such a struggle with four kids. I am not college educated and have been a homemaker for most of our 12 year marriage. But I can tell you this-no matter how scary it is with the financial struggles, it is very peaceful when he is not around her fighting with me.

I am on this site hoping to find a way to build myself up in order to not take him back. I hope the same to you and best wishes with your journey. If your mom can actually help you, then please consider it while you have it.

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