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as I wuz TRYIN ta say..... -- Pyrite, 10:28:55 09/21/09 Mon [1]

download an run

http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html

Even EARL likes it.

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Norwester..... download an run -- Pyrite, 10:27:49 09/21/09 Mon [1]


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ERLE -- Earl, 23:07:01 09/20/09 Sun [1]

Good ketch ....... bookt

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strat ??? You awake or do I need to send a cop over ? -- Norwester, 21:55:25 09/20/09 Sun [1]

.
...WHY would my Outlook Express suddenly quit
working for me ? huh-huh-huh ?

Pc. of shit microslop system, I admit, but right
now I can't get or receive emails normally...

HELP!

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ONCE MORE-TRUST THE DOG!---Rack -- ERLE, 20:32:12 09/20/09 Sun [1]

Glad I got out of Rack's house without a sucking chest wound.
His dawg barked at me a plenty.
+++++++++++++++++
Some nice longer term charts on CPI adjusted glod purchasing power and price of average US house in gold.
http://www.investmenttools.com/futures/metals/welcome_to_the_page_about_gold.htm#re_gold

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Then again... takin a look at "professional numismatists", Norwester an Pyrite.... -- Pyrite, 11:09:26 09/20/09 Sun [1]

Mebbe some SLACK shud be given to them choosing to deal with faceless slicksters on da PHONE!

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UH...............................................OH................................. -- Pyrite, 11:06:50 09/20/09 Sun [1]

You GOTTA be wrong on them rare STEAMSHIP relic coins.

They got CERTIFICATES!

Pyrite is pissed now.

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Telemarketing scumbags.....a black eye for all coin dealers... -- Norwester, 10:51:19 09/20/09 Sun [1]

.
...Thurs & Friday last week I viewed over 500K worth of
coins that had been sold to two different ELDERLY buyers
by coin telemarketers...those 'dialing-for-dollars' sleeze-
bags who work "client lists" focusing primarily on elderly
customers who seem to be more suceptable to their slimy
sales pitches.....

The first group I saw was roughly 100K worth of, primarily,
readily-available modern coinage that had been "slabbed"
by the major grading services -- modern commemorative
dollars, halves, and Proof Gold Eagles and Platinum Proofs,
etc. -- ALL of which was certainly salable stuff, but all
of which he had been charged 2 to 3X "reality" for at the
time he was talked into the purchase....This buyer was in
his mid-80's at the time, a widower who had few outside
interests or family nearby and was "easy pickins'" for the
slick-talking salesman....The 100K worth of 'numismatics'
he'd been talked into buying was worth, at best $30K even
with the run-up in Gold prices in recent years...

The second lot was sold to a wealthy gentleman who was/is
suffering from alzheimer's -- the guy doesn't know if he is
on foot or horseback at this point -- a sad situation for a
man in his early 60's....HE was "planted" by two different
sleezeball 'coin companies' in over $400K worth of the same
sort of thing -- overpriced slabbed Proof Eagles and such
along with a healthy dose of extremely overpriced 'discovery'
coins recovered from the shipwreck of the USS Redpublic
steamship, "processed" by the salvage company, slabbed by
one of the grading services and sold for 10-20X real-world
value to unsuspecting buyers who fell for the 'romance' of
the supposedly RARE coinage that had been recovered...Most
of this stuff was sandblasted crap labeled 'shipwreck
effect' by the grading service [NGC] and embarrassment to
any knowledgeable collector and stuff that's virtually
unsalable in the real world markets....really disgusting...
At best, this group MAY be worth $125-$130K of the $400K
the guy paid for it....ugh....However, the working partners
of his company are not about to take this lying down and
will be contacting these sleezeball telemarketers via their
lawyers (and they HAVE the $$$ to fight this thing through,
too...) Most people, when they finally discover they've
been "planted" in a bunch of overgraded/overpriced 'stuff'
just bite the bullet and dump it for huge losses...I hope
these guys make the telemarketers EAT IT and are able to
get some of the man's money back....

It never ceases to amaze me how people will send many
thousands of dollars to these slick-talking phone salesmen
for something they know little or nothing about because it's
been promoted to be such a "great investment" when they'd
never buy a sight-unseen car or house or expensive piece of
jewelry! .....sheesh...

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Rack.... Rack... Rack -- audude -- Rack, 23:07:15 09/19/09 Sat [1]

Ya, I know, its just that I always see the gloom and never the boom. People keep telling me to stop scaring them. I got to get out of this rut. Maybe tomorrow I will try keep 5 .45 rounds in a door frame. I still don't know what happened?
Maybe I'm getting Pyrites bad elbows.

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I...er... um... think I may have ..ah... found the REMINGTON ammo....um...problem -- Pyrite, 21:44:40 09/19/09 Sat [1]

When I got home and cleaned the High Standard, I discovered that someone (probably one of you guys) had deposited several months' worth of fouling on both the face of the bolt and the rear face of the barrel.
Thus creating a confluence of crud that would minutely hold the bolt a ...er.. certain...uh... DISTANCE... from full battery.
I am not pleased by this trick you guys pulled on me.
I think you KNEW that I VERY seldom clean a target pistol and took advantage of that knowledge to screw me up!

Harrumph!

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Rack.... Rack... Rack -- audude, 18:33:29 09/19/09 Sat [1]

You missed the funny part.

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Rack...The way I see things -- audude -- Rack, 17:32:57 09/19/09 Sat [1]

Maybe in Cal but in ND if he's in your home or business or motor home, illegally and by force it is an assumption of law that he is there to do you grave bodily harm and as such has appointed you as Judge, Jury and if you choose the executioner.
Its about time the criminals have to worry!

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Rack...The way I see things -- audude, 17:08:14 09/19/09 Sat [1]

The Dog should have tenderized the Perp.

If the Perp makes it through the window,
Stage the results to make it appear he
came to your place to commit suicide...
With Your gun, and Your Knife.

After the Police leave, shoot the Dog.

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I guess as long as Sondra -- duppy -- Pyrite, 13:13:19 09/19/09 Sat [1]

Why d'ya think she outshot ME at da fest?

She has never bin dumm enuff to shoot big bores.

Ergo, less flinchin. Now ME, who fired his first 44 maggie with a light "target"... hold.... an got the front sight in mah forehead... me, I'm rooned.

She's nuttin but a weak lil WUMMUN. Shootz ya in da tummy dead center wid a twenny two an then blows away da smoke.

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Hey Rack an Earl -- Pyrite -- Rack, 09:08:29 09/19/09 Sat [1]

Are you serious? If so then we better be looking for a cure as I think the time is coming.
The Gov must figure things will be getting bad also as they now have 480,000 troops that they brought home for an emergency.
One friend told me that the Viet Nam era had 700,000 total active duty troops. Must be expecting BIG TROUBLE. They are training for crowd control and law enforcement.

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norwester -- moonshot, 08:13:02 09/19/09 Sat [1]

from 64855

buying gold coins -- ballgame, 17:38:13 09/18/09 Fri
Anyone here do business with any shops in the Seattle area?
How about Portland? Thanks in advance.

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yet Another2 -- ellix, 08:11:24 09/19/09 Sat [1]

Her point was the amount of irritating *anonymous* posts. She says that if you get a handle you can post unlimited garbage-- so give it a try.

Shame about the deletions, I would have liked to assess your azol factor.

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I guess as long as Sondra -- duppy, 00:22:57 09/19/09 Sat [1]

is still packing and willing to use HER .45,

you dint have any worries.

dUp

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guess what? -- another2, 16:42:35 09/18/09 Fri [1]

criticized tamryn on her website.

no foul language, not a word.

had at least 20 posts deleted (so much for her free speech) until finally she has me blocked all together.

good luck tamryn the hypocrite. all her bullsh@t about free speech was just that - until it came to taking it instead of giving it.

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.. -- ., 16:36:49 09/18/09 Fri [1]

.

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Chit, I had die polizei pounding on my door at 3:30 am today... -- strat, 15:49:08 09/18/09 Fri [1]

...I couldn't believe it. Some guy that lives upstairs
bailed on his cab fair and ran into the building, so
this a-hole cop takes it on himself to wake everybody
up in the building. I was furious. It's like, you
know, some of us gotta work and WTF are you doing?

Been contemplating filing an official complaint then
ran into a 'uniform' in the local Starbucks and said
something to him. I asked him what happens if I file
an official complaint and he says 'nothing'. He's
seems pretty cool and said he will say something to
3rd shift.

Makes me pine for Ol' Beattyville where you could get
away with shootin' someone as long as your uncle is
the sheriff.

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Hey Rack an Earl -- Pyrite, 11:54:00 09/18/09 Fri [1]

I fergot to tellya. That day (Saturday?) that I shot both yer 45's.
That nite at da Caboose my elbow was givin me shootin pains.
I guess I can NEVER shoot a 45 again.
Twenny tooze fer da burly Pyrite.

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"shit pants" scaring is not allowed in California -- Pyrite, 11:51:57 09/18/09 Fri [1]

You will get a citation for environmental pollution.
Here, you tell the 911 operator that you were so scared you dropped your latte.
Then you throw a pillow at the intruder.
But ONLY if he is facing you.

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TRUST YOUR DOG -A LESSON -- Rack, 21:19:15 09/17/09 Thu [1]

Last night about 3:00 AM a neighbor awoke because his dog was going nuts. He found a 230 lb 6-2 asshole had cut his window screen and crawled in. The guy got away and the neighbor got stabbed in the chest a few times-he has a chance to live at least. Anyway-when your dog acts up lock and load so you can be prepared to greet assholes. If your in California, just to be safe-be sure to tell the 911 operator you were SO SCARED YOU SHIT YOUR PANTS! Be sure to assemble the evidence for any future court date. Its messy but good insurance that you were telling the truth!
ONCE MORE-TRUST THE DOG!

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More on Gerson -- strat, 17:14:03 09/16/09 Wed [1]

http://www.naturalnews.com/027004_cancer_coffee_health.html

Thanks, moonshot, for motivating me to do some digging. Chit, I got to get back to my slav...er...work. :)

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I think... -- strat, 16:50:36 09/16/09 Wed [1]

...he was 86 when he died.

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Confessions Of A Medical Heretic - strat -- moonshot, 15:37:52 09/16/09 Wed [1]

Haven't read it but it's on my list now, thanks. How long after the therapy did your great uncle live? Most of these patients go on to lead normal, healthy and long lives.

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And Then There's This Fishy Crap -- moonshot, 15:32:45 09/16/09 Wed [1]

from doran on 64855

Gunmen kill 10 patients at Mexico rehab clinic -- doran, 14:13:15 09/16/09 Wed
The government's inability to defeat the cartels is Calderon's biggest challenge and is worrying foreign investors and the United States. More than 13,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence since late 2006.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE58F4G320090916

Pretty convenient:

1) They get to search U.S. citizens leaving the U.S. on the U.S. side "searching for drug money" in the name of the war on drugs

2) Discourage more people from seeking alternative therapies

3) Provide more proof that guns are bad

Nice bang for the buck (no pun intended)

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Oh, forgot... -- strat, 13:39:05 09/16/09 Wed [1]

...my buddy in cardiac is a PA (physician's assistant).
Not a surgeon, although he's probably qualify with the
right paper.

He's helped me quite a bit with my hypochondria (not
sure what it is, but I know it's bad!) :)

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"A Cancer Therapy: Results of Fifty Cases and the Cure of Advanced Cancer" -- strat, 13:36:19 09/16/09 Wed [1]

I got a copy of that book. One of those cases cited is
my great uncle. You ever read "Confessions Of A Medical
Heretic"? It was written by Rob't Mendelsohn, MD. A
prominent physician in IL, he chairman of their medical
licensing board. Supposedly he was poisoned, too, but
I have no way of verifying that.

Now a good buddy of mine has done cardiac surgery for
30+ years and has had a few choice things to say. Such
as, 75% of bypasses are unnecessary. He's got some real
horror stories. But like the rest of us, he has to make
a living.

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Norwalk juicers -- moonshot, 12:15:34 09/16/09 Wed [1]

They're still being manufactured in L.A. I wouldn't buy a new one for $2400 when a used $400 unit will still last multiple generations.

The Welles Press works well except I've read complaints the pressing trays are plastic and may be prone to premature breakage, plus it ain't cheap. There was a predecessor by K&K that was all stainless steel. Somewhere out there is a is a $59 SS frame that you can put a $29 2 ton jack into and use. Some folks just build their own frame in the garage and use a jack in it.

These separate presses are sworn by their users to be superior to Norwalk when used with a Greenstar twin gear juicer. I've had them all and can't argue with the Greenstar with separate press folks as far as nutrient value however, the Norwalk is hands down easier and quicker to clean and operate.

I can dig out the $59 SS frame info if any one wants it.

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Actually, they didn't run him out - strat -- moonshot, 11:59:43 09/16/09 Wed [1]

they poisoned him with arsenic - twice -- He was just finishing up his manuscript "A Cancer Therapy: Results of Fifty Cases and the Cure of Advanced Cancer" when he took ill. He tested himself and detected high amounts of arsenic. While treating himself, his secretary disappeared with the manuscript. After curing himself and rewriting the manuscript he died of arsenic poisoning. I think wikipedia says he died of cancer, lol.

Similar fate happened to Rife. San Diego can be a tough neighborhood if you piss off the PTB.

The medical establishment can't make money actually curing cancer. Especially with organic carrots and apples.

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Tell me about it, moonshot... -- strat, 11:41:12 09/16/09 Wed [1]

...the Nazis ran Gerson out of Germany in the 30's,
then the AMA ran the guy out of the US in '48. Kinda
ironic, ain't it?

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More on juicers... -- strat, 11:39:21 09/16/09 Wed [1]

...this looks like a cheaper version of a Norwalk:

http://store.therawdiet.com/wellespress.html

I'm not sure Norwalks are even made anymore. I'm finding very little on the net.

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Liver - strat -- moonshot, 11:39:06 09/16/09 Wed [1]

Unfortunately, today there aren't any more sources left in the world for untainted liver. The Gerson Institute removed the liver injections from the program.

Gerson Therapy is poo poo'd by the medical establishment and mainstream media as quackery. Gerson has documented case after case of patients entirely cured after being sent home to die after being radiated, chemo'd or cut. The therapy isn't 100% effective for 100% of the patients but still is highly effective on the vast majority.

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Whoops... -- strat, 11:17:10 09/16/09 Wed [1]

I was 22, my father was 57 when he died.

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A couple of more thoughts on Gerson... -- strat, 11:15:08 09/16/09 Wed [1]

...I was very impressed with it as a whole at the
young age (22) that my father died.

You do need a Norwalk juicer. The Champions don't
cut it for whatever reason. The Norwalks run about
$400.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Norwalk-230-Juicer_W0QQitemZ190333955115QQcmdZViewItem

I may have a Gerson book or two around still, but
it would take some digging to find them. And anything
in the books is probably on the net. We had to find
strictly organic produce to do the therapy, and at
one point, we were using Argentinian beef liver as
part of the therapy. Even in 78-79, American beef
had a certain 'taint' to it.

HTH, Karl

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Coffee enemas were used during WWI as a morphine substitute. -- Pyrite, 10:38:10 09/16/09 Wed [1]

I think I had some of that coffee on bivouac in Fort Ord.

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Therapy Costs - strat -- moonshot, 09:03:18 09/16/09 Wed [1]

Admittedly the clinic is expensive however, able bodied patients can practice the therapy at home with relatively low costs.

The pain control has a lot to do with the coffee enemas. I laughed when I first heard of it but didn't laugh after trying it.

The therapy gets the body's own immune system firing on all 8 cylinders. The coffee enemas purge the excess toxin accumulation from the liver. Otherwise the liver will suffer greatly from the overload of toxins being purged from the therapy.

Coffee enemas were used during WWI as a morphine substitute. It acts as a pain killer and induces a relaxed state, opposite effect of taking coffee orally.
http://www.naturalnews.com/026289_coffee_coffee_enemas_coffee_enema.html

warning - Coffee enemas alone should not be administered routinely without good reason as it would begin to deplete the body of nutrients.

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Rack... -- strat, 08:30:05 09/16/09 Wed [1]

...my best to your daughter. I had no idea she was that sick.

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Gerson Therapy? -- strat, 08:28:06 09/16/09 Wed [1]

My father did Gerson Therapy at the Tijuana Clinic
after a botched thoracotomy (left lung removal) back
in '78. It's expensive, something on the order of
10G's a week now. They have a clinic in AZ now, too,
but due to med regs may be geared to cleansing only.
The amazing thing about Gerson's Therapy was the lack
of pain. Even though my father was not cured (the
thoracotomy FU'ed him up), they told him he would not
have the pain normally associated with CA (cancer).
About ten years later, when I was a hospice volunteer,
I remember my old man only having to take aspirin for
pain control as we were shooting as much as 120mg of
morphine into patients in the inpatient unit at hospice.

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Rack - Nutrition Therapy -- moonshot, 23:35:52 09/15/09 Tue [1]

Rack,

It's none of my business but here's a couple videos comparing traditional medicine to alternative therapy. Dying to have known is a follow the money expose and The Gerson Miracle reveals the effectiveness of a simple, low cost nutritional therapy. There are more quack alternative therapies than legitimate however, Gerson is one of those that's legit. This may not be for your daughter's illness but I would take a peek. The vids focus mainly on cancer patients but the list of terminal, "incurable", degenerative, and mystery illnesses that it's effective on is virtually endless. Max Gerson cured Albert Schweitzer and Schweitzer's entire family of different incurable diseases with this method. Albert Schweitzer acknowledged this publicly.

These vids are copyrighted and probably wont remain free online for long.

Dying To Have Known
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7357629140536485998&ei=iQCsStfoMIzYqAOYpeyhAw&q=Dying+To+Have+Known&hl=en#

The Gerson Miracle - 10 parts.
http://media.abovetopsecret.com/media/1173/Gerson_Therapy_part_1_Dissonance/

Another good vid available through Blockbuster or Netflix is The Beautiful Truth

Type II is routinely cured at Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center, Gabriel Cousens, MD - Video - "Raw for 30 days" (Netflix or Blockbuster)

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Moonshot and Audude -- Rack, 21:22:08 09/15/09 Tue [1]

Nothing new on the daughter. Dr.s just run up the bills and she is a few bricks short of a load. She can put it together that she is in deep shit but can't seem to do what is needed to get cured. She did promise to take the C/ silver. We keep
pushing her in the right direction but? She is not a whole lot worse anyway. I can't wait to see the medical bills

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Right after I decided never to eat Chicken again -- audude, 17:35:47 09/15/09 Tue [1]

I noticed The Metals stuff advancing.

Pretty soon I will coat my Honda with Silver Bars,
thus forcing me to park in the garage.

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"Spring Chicken" Pyrite -- Pyrite, 14:02:08 09/15/09 Tue [1]



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Rack -- audude, 13:50:51 09/15/09 Tue [1]

I forgot to ask the question about
your daughters health... is she improving?

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Something to drive in Squillionaires Acres -- duppy, 12:53:40 09/15/09 Tue [1]

http://englishrussia.com/?p=1990

40 lbs. of AU

dUp

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Rack - How's your daughter doing? -- moonshot, 12:11:21 09/15/09 Tue [1]

Prayers that she got through the crisis and is well on the road to recovery.

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Cops to draw blood in ID & TX -- duppy, 11:47:11 09/15/09 Tue [1]

Police say syringes will help stop drunk driving

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jA8G8rKqvhHut_JXHckvi-SemJogD9AMH40O1

dUp

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BWP @ feeling under the weather -- audude, 09:53:19 09/15/09 Tue [1]

I've got RRMS and with one of those "R"s
I feel like a million bucks (+/-) fifty.

Pyrite will Always look like the Proverbial
Spring Chicken. ; )

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Thanks JC & Brian -- audude (Advice I forgot), 09:39:47 09/15/09 Tue [1]

All you Texas Cowboys, a warning take from me.

Don't go to Montana, to spend your money free.

Stay at home in Texas, where the work is year around.

And you'll never get Consumption, from sleeping on the ground.

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Strat...nawwww... -- duppy, 22:04:44 09/14/09 Mon [1]

Flierdude made a surprised visit.

or was that tolly?

dUp

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Was that really Erle... -- strat, 20:44:49 09/14/09 Mon [1]

...in that air-conditioned Goldman-Sachs cap?

ROFL!

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... greetin's 'n salutations ta the Libby rabble ... -- BWP, 19:42:21 09/14/09 Mon [1]

... hey o'dood, great pics ... everyone looks younger than they did last time I was there ... musta had all them pics retouched ... musta cost a fortune ... can't bleev how big Harry got ... hope he don't end up like his ol' man makin' sausages inna Cellars of Pork ... Cobb, they said ya was under the weather ... so how come ya look better than Pyrite? ... I GOT'S TA KNOW! .... Sondra 'n Labrat lookin' mighty fine along wif the rest o' the sweethearts ... Norwester don't look no different either ... wearin' the same feckin' shirt ... and what can ya say 'bout the ERLE/Earl twins 'cept TAKE YER HANDS OFF DUPPY 'N STEP AWAY FROM THE TRACTOR! ... great gang ... miss y'all ...

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hey Dude,, -- cashcobb, 16:45:53 09/14/09 Mon [1]

nice passel of pics-duppy's castle still stands but has almost caused some boat wrecks from people "trying" to stop in those rapids to look at it--also-nobodys gonna believe what that yellow rock Scott is holding really is.......JC

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First In, Last Out -- audude, 15:36:50 09/14/09 Mon [1]

Got home Friday afternoon without
a single bug on my truck, and hopped
into my lumpy bed.

Here's a couple pics of some of the best
people I've ever known.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9607613@N08/sets/72157622243958609/
Some calenders to follow.

That was a terrific vacation and I'd like to
thank John for Hosting and Mike for putting
everything together.

Happy Belated Birthday Sondra

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Be careful, Rack -- Pyrite, 17:27:54 09/13/09 Sun [1]

There is more than a passing chance that a fucking doctor GAVE Sondra her vasculitis with an antibiotic.
http://jpharmtechnol.com/abstracts/volume17/September-October/220.html

Put a gun up his ass and tell him to expect it to go off if he fucks up the antibiotic regimen.

Too many goddam doctors hit shit with antibiotics when they got no fuckin IDEA wot the bug may be.

In Sondra's case, she HAD no fuckin BUG but an auto immune DISEASE.

There's no way to PROVE it, but she had to diagnose her syndrome from a TV show. The doc FOUGHT her request for the test but finally acquiesced and was AMAZED to see that she was RIGHT.

Golly gee, shit, missuz Pyrite, I fucked up maybe.

We QUIT that son of a bitch. He declined fuckin EAR WAX on me and the nurse had to dig it out with a knife.
God damned QUACK!

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not good -- Rack, 13:13:30 09/13/09 Sun [1]

Before I left my daughter came down with a staff infection. The Dr's didn't do a blood culture until after giving her antibiotics so they are really just guessing. Anyway, she has had a reaction to three different anti biotic drugs they gave her. She just came home and is covered totally with a rash that itches but no bumps. Her arms have crusted sores all over them and the leg it started on is still swollen with more sores. Now her face is getting red. To the ER as soon as she showers. say a few prayers

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I'm STILL spacey--Rack -- Pyrite, 11:33:17 09/13/09 Sun [1]

It's those shootin drugs ya took.
Or mebbe exposure ta ERLE. That hat of his had lead contamination.

I'm ready ta go again.
Welll..... not REEEEEELYYYY


She sez thank ya, Rack an Dup.

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Happy Birthday ~~~~~you saint.. -- duppy, 00:56:09 09/13/09 Sun [1]

Many more, eh.



rAcKyashuDdahsAidno.

was that before the shoot?

dUp

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Sondra's 66 today. -- Rack, 00:35:29 09/13/09 Sun [1]

Wish her happy birthday from me.
I hope you shitting me on not being tired. I'm STILL spacey

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mega dump -- tarbo, -- Rack, 18:01:18 09/12/09 Sat [1]

Ross,
They had problems during the Fest with the toilet and shower.
You my be dealing with a plugged main line to the septic tank.
That would force things to backup to the lowest point-the basement. You should Roto router the main line.

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@Tarbo and DeeDee -- Erle, 13:14:13 09/12/09 Sat [1]

I want to thank you again for letting me shoot your rifle, even though I stink.
Those burgers were exceptionally good too.

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mega dump -- tarbo, 11:17:01 09/12/09 Sat [1]

SOMEONE FLEW A A6 INTRUDER INTO COBBERS BASEMENT AND TOOK A MEGEDUMP AND RAN THE FUCKING SHOWER OVER AND CREATED A LOT OF MOLD FOR D D AND I TO CLEAN UP.
WERE ON THE FUCKING HUNT.
TARBO
ALSO MESED UP THE BED

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ERLE -- tarbo, 11:12:21 09/12/09 Sat [1]

The hat
The big holes in that hat are when d d shot it with her 38-55 there the ones with the big lead stains.
tarbo

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You must be old, Rack -- Pyrite, 10:52:03 09/12/09 Sat [1]

We did the backtrip in one day. I wuz OK by yesterday.
We WERE gonna stop in Bend, OR but Bend is about as awful as it gets. ANYWHERE.
So we looks at each other and sez, "FUGGIT, less keep goin."
1037 miles.
Crazy ole coots.
Got home at 1AM
An no BIKERS checked in in the adjoining room.
Grrrr on Bend, Oregon.

Sondra's 66 today.

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Am I the only one -- Rack, 10:05:04 09/12/09 Sat [1]

who is still beat from the fest and driving? I must be getting
old.

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duPPy @ yer heinous assertion of gombit .....LYING -- Pyrite, 18:31:33 09/11/09 Fri [1]



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and will swear to any that ask that it was YOU--Rack -- Pyrite, 18:27:52 09/11/09 Fri [1]

Well, I'd trust YOU to do that, but remember all the other ginks who were there.
They'd want a cut.
Nope. I'll have to ignominiously admit defeat for all time.

snif

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9/11 Commission Counsel: Government Agreed to Lie About 9/11 -- dUp, 18:10:25 09/11/09 Fri [1]

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/april2009/041409_government_agreed.htm

The Gov't would lie to us?

Sheeesh.

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I wuz gonna demand a RESHOOT ! -- Rack, 16:57:30 09/11/09 Fri [1]

For a small sum of silver I will SELL you my rifle target and will swear to any that ask that it was YOU that shot that group.
What do you offer for the braggin right?

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I wuz gonna demand a RESHOOT ! -- Pyrite, 12:23:46 09/11/09 Fri [1]

Then I remembered that HARRY is close enuff to acshully SHOW UP an I'd ........STILL........ lose.

Hey Norwester, kin we have a reshoot by mail?
I'll shoot here an MAIL ya da targit?

Okay?

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MrTurtle...good to see -- duppy, 01:14:49 09/11/09 Fri [1]

yer home....good to see you again.
Twus good fun.
Regards,
dUp

ps Strat....erle threw the shoot in ordah to "win"

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Libby folks -- mudturtle, 23:09:57 09/10/09 Thu [1]

just about got me feeling as though there is a core of folks that get it and will be around to pick up the pieces when it shakes out. There are other venues that will jack up one's attitude out there. I haven't been to an Experimental Aircraft Assn. Fly-in for many years. Those people are the sort that gives a morose feck like me an emotional boost because of their general independence and a will to make things happen on their own.
The attendees at N'w/Cobb thing know the score. For the most part we have few illusions on how bad it can and will get. None there had anything resembling the goldbug stereotype of worshiping #79 and the miserly foilhat hatred of the producer people. All seem to be very willing to dump gold and these defensive positions if the goomint would just GTF out of the way for productive investment in a stable monetary system.
All of the noise from the many levels of goo are in harmony on how they will steal even more than the half that they already take. Why should anyone want to risk a life's savings in a racket like now?
The bias on many people that would invest in new techniques is frozen by fear of their capital being seized by the uncontrollable parasites.

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strat -- ERLE, 20:25:13 09/10/09 Thu [1]

If you want a kringle, get me your surface mail address.

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The hat will be awarded to low man at the shooting competion tommorrow. -- ERLE, 20:23:59 09/10/09 Thu [1]

strat, thanks for the hat. I figured that I had a good chance of winning it so I asked that it be taken down before it was completely shredded. It needs a little stitching to affix the brim, but it got just about the perfect number of shots to give it "character".
I will wear it proudly.
BTW, I was able to do a whole lot better on hitting it than the paper target.

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Snarl, grrrrr, gnash gnash !!!! -- Pyrite, 14:21:36 09/10/09 Thu [1]



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Wanna trade targets?--Rack -- Pyrite, 14:14:51 09/10/09 Thu [1]

SURE! For yer RIFLE one. Damn RINGER!!!!

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How to lose the Libby pistol shoot -- Pyrite, -- Rack, 14:01:42 09/10/09 Thu [1]

Wanna trade targets?

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How to lose the Libby pistol shoot -- Pyrite, 11:49:20 09/10/09 Thu [1]



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"rib detailing"...............sheeeeze........... -- Pyrite, 11:21:36 09/10/09 Thu [1]

That is ...FILEWORK....
"VINE PATTERN" filework to be exact, ya big galoot!



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THANKS to one and all who either contributed both time and... -- Norwester, 21:31:05 09/09/09 Wed [1]

.
...donations or at least a donation for the clean-up of
the Fort and a few new appliances for John's use and
so forth....I especially want to thank the hard-work
crew of duPPY, MadKiwi, AUdude and Scott who arrived
early and worked late to make that upstairs glisten with
a fresh coat of paint and clean carpets and baths....
IT MADE A DIFFERENCE for all of us, not just JC....

An even bigger THANKS to all who were behind MY special
"award" of that custom-engraved SPYDERCO knife, with the
extra rib detailing a la' PieRite -- it's a beauty and
a very nice and appreciated gift...THANK YOU!

Otherwise, I think I'm going to FAST for the next 10 days
to try to overcome the TONS of good eats we gorged-on
over the past 6 days! whew....

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Hey John -- Pyrite, 19:31:42 09/09/09 Wed [1]

did you say you wuz HONGRY?



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My La-Z-Boy -- Pyrite, 19:27:57 09/09/09 Wed [1]

My bed
My TV that don't hang over da desk an nock yer head
My BIIGGG shower
My big toilet
My own garage
My fridge with MY food

Feck da Fest

My LAWN to mow
My car to wash
My guns to clean
My stupid naybers
My shit to unpack

When's da next Fest?


Central fecking Oregon shud be blowed off da map.
Specially that feckin bottleneck dust bowl, BEND!
Took a hour or more just to get thru that shithole.
Heerz a pitcher of da midges we hit in Klamath Falls. 3 service stations to get outta town. They must go thru squeegees by da tousans. I'd guess literally 1500-2000
per windshield mile. Cudn't even see thru em.
The guy at the service station sed they wuz innerdoosed
to compete wid skeeters.
They have.



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Back in the PromisedLand -- dUp, 13:17:14 09/09/09 Wed [1]

Thankfully.

Many thanks to earl, erle, the pyrites,ross/dede, audude and his "little" coinlug, IDT and the the champ, kiwi/labrat, rack, and especially JC an' Muddah Soggy. Ifn I missed anyOne, It is not intentional, I am beat from the road.

Thanks again, it was great fun.

dUp

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Erle is safely aboard the train -- Raco, 02:56:21 09/09/09 Wed [1]

along with the "hat" We drove straight through again and he was able to get a seat and will return a day early to the great surprise of his employee's. He had enough beer for medicinal use
I sure made a fool of myself with my OWN personal .45! If I had any morals I would have shot myself
I'm to bed
BBL

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pooped would be a better guess,, -- cashcobb, 22:40:44 09/08/09 Tue [1]

Audude is th last remaining-he stayed to clean up after th others (may be a life time job)-- the hat didn't survive-we gave the remains to Erle for an indecent burial-I won't haft to worry bout buying any food for a couple years (thats how much was left over)--good time had by all.......JC

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Killing? -- strat, 21:12:41 09/08/09 Tue [1]

...think that's still against the law...$1K gold?
Enjoy it while it lasts.

Hey, the Libby bunch is strangely quiet. Everyone
makin' their way back home safely?

I take it my bro-in-law's GS cap is a tattered rag
by now.

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bite me,,,i'm a goldbug -- Bent Rifle, 09:03:34 09/08/09 Tue [1]

ok,,seen 1k gold again

now,,,,someone,,please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,kill me

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Kapex! -- madkiwi, 11:15:08 09/07/09 Mon [1]

Email me with your email address so I can send you those pricelists.

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Sounds like a great time! -- kapex, 11:01:24 09/07/09 Mon [1]

Enjoy the Bar-B-Que today!

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Man charged over $35,000 beer theft .. -- Delta-au, 03:04:28 09/07/09 Mon [1]

6 Sept 2009 12:21:01 PM
A Libby man has been charged with stealing a Sea Container full of premium Belgian beer worth $35,000, Montana police say. Police allege two men stole a shipping container holding 1,349 cartons of Hoegaarden beer from a storage yard on August 20. "It will be alleged that at 6.05pm two men using a side-loading container trailer, stole a sea container containing 1,349 cartons of Hoegaarden beer," police spokeswoman Susan Usher said.

The incident was captured on security footage and police identified two people of interest, police spokesman Samuel Dinnison said. Detectives and Customs officers executed a search warrant at a house in Libby on Wednesday.

A 57-year-old man wearing a bad-taste Hawaian T-Shirt was charged with stealing the beer and cannabis possession. The man will appear in the Libby Court on Tuesday September 15.

Mr Dinnison said some beer had been recovered but the investigation was continuing. Police were still working to identify the second man on the security footage. He was wearing a new set of bib overalls splattered in what appears to be BBQ sauce.

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My poor brother-in-law... -- strat, 19:56:32 09/06/09 Sun [1]

...if he only knew what became of his favorite golfing cap. Feckin' borkers. :)

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@so far about 40 targets have been killed or seriously injured -- miro, 18:00:08 09/06/09 Sun [1]

darn, I miss you all, you all have a good time.

some day ... maybe ... I'll join you again trying to kill targets and eat meat of targets that were not missed

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nobodys vying for th GS cap-but- -- cashcobb, 14:38:24 09/06/09 Sun [1]

so far about 40 targets have been killed or seriously injured.........JC

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Thanks for the update, dup... -- strat, 17:28:41 09/05/09 Sat [1]

...I needed a laugh.

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Just back from the range -- duppy, 15:28:06 09/05/09 Sat [1]

Under Col. Cobb orders, we used the hat for target practice sightin' in. The funny thing is that I was sure I had hit the logo and at first glance the logo was untouched. Looking at it from the inside, the logo was struck 5 times butt the logo fronted the steel crossbeam on the target stand and the shots never penetrated the patch. Fvckin' vampires. We haven't killed GS yet.

The hat will be awarded to low man at the shooting competion tommorrow.

Regards,

dUp

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Strat GS hat update: -- duppy, 15:19:08 09/05/09 Sat [1]


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Glad that worked out... -- strat, 08:41:49 09/05/09 Sat [1]

...ya oughta wait 'til Erle's nappin' and slide it on his head for a pic. We might be able to blackmail 'im. :)

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Strat...Now that was funny -- audude, 10:53:33 09/04/09 Fri [1]

The Box made the scene.

I'm trying to figure the best person
to place it upon when the Soot-Out starts.

Say Mr. Pyrite, can you please put some
new targets up for us... and wear this nice
White Cap... Yar

Duppy's got Bacon on the Griddle and the
Pancakes are soon to follow.

We got the Fort Dialed in the past couple days'
and it looks like Golf is gonna happen this
afternoon. Sure wish the Young Tom was here...
Miro too. Still can't figure out why the Bent
One (dent) show.

A Real big THANKS to Norwester and Cashcobb for
this.

Life is Good...

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Libby -- ROAN, 16:39:48 09/03/09 Thu [1]

All the best to everyone there. It seems every time there is a fest I am overseas. Enjoy.

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Play safe -- kitkat, 13:57:51 09/02/09 Wed [1]

Here's hoping you all have the best times of your life at the Libby Fest. Take care, especially of your heart. M o d e r a t i o n in all things.

AUwolf - had some of those white large sausages(I forget what they're called) yesterday that they sell at Costco. Happened to notice that it says "gluten free" on the back. Very low in fat too.

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Dup's in the Caboose -- duppy, 21:28:28 09/01/09 Tue [1]

18 Hours from the PromisedLand.

Upgraded to a Edge, so the green fruit will be comfortable.

dUp...off to the Fort.

(feels like my first tweeeeet...aaaaarrrraaagh)

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Libby Fest,, -- cashcobb, 14:24:26 09/01/09 Tue [1]

Audude done made th scene..........JC

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Dup,, -- cashcobb, 18:25:10 08/31/09 Mon [1]

priority mail usps,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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good to hear JC -- duppy, 17:40:02 08/31/09 Mon [1]

wood dat be the little one from the usps, or the big one from ups?

dUp

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package arrvial,, -- cashcobb, 14:33:36 08/31/09 Mon [1]

from th "promised land".............JC

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Ain't gonna make it to the Fest... -- strat, 13:22:09 08/31/09 Mon [1]

...but I sent you guys a lil' somethin' for the
target range. Should be there by Thursday.

A word of warning: y'all don't wanna be standin'
underneath this thing anywhere near Erle.

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ANY LAST MINUTE REQUESTS for MontanaFest ? -- Norwester -- Pyrite, 10:56:31 08/31/09 Mon [1]

All I want is good fellowship, brotherly love, placid surroundings, beautiful scenery, and Rack to bust his trigger finger.

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Bud -- IDT, 10:35:06 08/31/09 Mon [1]

I was driving up near the Canadian border a couple of months ago. Looking down into this broad valley I say huge fields of yellow. So, I dropped into the valley to see what was growing there. Turned out to be a Bud hops growing operation. The hops fields go on for miles. They even have an apartment complex, complete with sports fields for their wetbacks.

This may be stating the obvious, but, there was a big sign at the entrance to the hops operation. It said "We buy rat piss", heh, heh!

Just kidding of course, however, not about the hops fields. Pretty interesting.

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Submariner.....we have ample PROZAC on hand for PieRite... -- Norwester, 09:24:08 08/31/09 Mon [1]

.
...and other "excitable" types....FLOMAX for all us old
farts, and plenty of strong coffee to keep them awake
during the poker games [since Pascal won't be there this
time for VOLUME and HYPE].........

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don' worry, Bruce.....I've laid in some DECENT beer, too! -- Norwester, 09:20:39 08/31/09 Mon [1]

.
..the BUD is for those who actually THINK they like beer...
heh-heh....

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Bud beer? -- IDT, 09:19:23 08/31/09 Mon [1]

Gawd no. Get a couple sixes of something else. Almost anything besides that shit. Suggest, Fat Tire, Heineken, Old Style, or Sam Adams.

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ANY LAST MINUTE REQUESTS for MontanaFest ? -- Norwester -- Submariner, 09:03:52 08/31/09 Mon [1]

Lipitor?

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unObtainable, too.... -- Norwester, 00:59:36 08/31/09 Mon [1]

*

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ANY LAST MINUTE REQUESTS for MontanaFest ? -- Norwester, 00:57:18 08/31/09 Mon [1]

.
...the 'Fest Food is bought....all that pedestrian stuff
we had last time: ribeyes, filets, beer-butt chicken, and
Earl's country ribs....THERE WILL BE BUD BEER there since
some folks have no taste for fine beer and insist on that
stuff....along with some BETTER brews, too...and cokes,
and seben-up, and rootbeer, etc. ....

Sandwich makings and so forth for the Shoot-Out lunch
there at the range.....'burgers and pizza afterwards
back at the Fort....WOT ELSE ?

IF you think of anything, lemme know....unless your handle
is "Pyrite" 'cause whateveritis he comes up with will be
unabtainable, I'm sure.....heh-heh....

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Rack..........the BARBEQUE on Labor Day will include.... -- Norwester, 23:10:43 08/29/09 Sat [1]

.
..."plate-sized" RibEyes, nice Filets, beer-butt chicken,
Earl's famous country-style smoked ribs, tarbo's and
deedee's special-sauced deer and elk cuts, corn on the
cobb(sic), watermelon & cantelope salad, potatoe salad,
beans, and garlic bread.....will THAT fill ya up?

The after-the-shoot-off meal is just a 'warm up' for the
BIG ONE on Labor Day, the following day....

Any more questioning of the procedure COULD result in a
flawed ruling by the SCORING COMMITTEE [me] of your
targets..........YAR!

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we're gonna NEED the hamburger stuff for. -- Rack, 23:06:29 08/29/09 Sat [1]

What happened to the plate sized 4" thick rib eye's?

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Yous party guys Rock! -- Jasper, 18:15:11 08/29/09 Sat [1]


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tarbo..........we're gonna NEED the hamburger stuff for... -- Norwester, 14:32:57 08/29/09 Sat [1]

.
...the "after-the-Shoot-Off" meal at the Fort...it'll
be greatly appreciated, so plan on bringing it over
for that evening [Sunday]....we can do-up the other
meat during the barbeque on Monday.....I've GOT plenty
of BUNS already, and will pick up lettuce,tomatos, cheese,
onions fresh there at Kroegers next week...

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food pre fest -- tarbo, 10:30:02 08/29/09 Sat [1]

Hey Mike
What the fuck am I going to do with the 15 pounds of deer fillet with de de,s famous sauce and 20 pounds of deer and elk hamburger she made for the workers?
just a thought J C and I are going fishing at thompson lake then mc gregor lake than 4 wheelin up to the cabinets and I will take my digital camera.
hope the old fucker can take all this?
Not cobb, ME
tarbo

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YO! Miroslav! Sorry to hear of your present difficulties... -- Norwester, 18:11:26 08/27/09 Thu [1]

.
...your bud, Tomster, can't make it this year, either,
due to a shortage of BUD beer in the Libby area....

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Hi folks, my Libby friends -- Miro, 15:03:58 08/27/09 Thu [1]

Just to let you know, a lot of things changed in my life. I had to cut my trip to the old country short.

My best friend and companion had a death in a family and she needs my support. Thus I still won't make Libby this year.

I wish you all the best and throw a pray for me and my companion. Neither of us are doing well but we will somehow get through it.

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Wolfie...im throwing in the box to Libby -- duppy, 14:11:03 08/27/09 Thu [1]

2 packages of Nude Zeeland Gluton free meals for you. Lamb Massaman and Beef chili w/ beans.....two less meals to worry aboot.

Now make the reservations.....

dUp

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Brass -- Navy, -- Rack -- Rack, 12:06:30 08/27/09 Thu [1]

Thanks a bunch
BTW- check out http://www.sportsmanguide.com for their
50 cal ammo. Sometimes they got some good deals.

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Brass -- Navy, 10:33:02 08/27/09 Thu [1]

Rack....I'll go to the range this week-end and buy a few buckets of brass and see how many rounds I can shake out for you. Headstamps will be mixed.

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Brass -- Navy, -- Rack, 08:47:30 08/27/09 Thu [1]

Navy,
I would like to get 2000 or so. How much you want for it?
Brass only-no aluminum or steel.

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Brass -- Navy, 07:37:41 08/27/09 Thu [1]

Rack,
How much brass are you looking for? I pay $20.00 for a five gallon bucket full of brass from my local range. 85% of the brass is NATO stuff because it's a Marine Corps range at Camp Allen. I shake out alot of .45 brass when I buy it.

They do a good job keeping it separate, steel and aluminum case stuff goes into one barrel, brass in another. They give me the steel stuff for free.

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actually, i found the entire discusion on gluten/medical enlightening -- mercury, 00:59:03 08/27/09 Thu [1]

the PTB have been poisoning (virus, contamination, metals, GMO, etc) our air/water/food supplies, on purpose for quite some time.

we wont realize the true scope of HOW hypoallergenic/chemically sensitive individual rates have skyrocketed, much less the WHY, until we openly and freely COMMUNICATE such with each other.

cleaning up the water supply will actually prove harder than cleaning up the finance system.

might as well start now...

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Once fired .45 brass? -- Rack, 23:16:01 08/26/09 Wed [1]

Does anyone have a source for .45 brass thats "reasonable"?

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BRING OLD WORK CLOTHES -- Rack, 22:23:31 08/26/09 Wed [1]

Work and "good" are the same thing to me. Drives the wife nuts!

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Norwester -- Pyrite, 21:29:03 08/26/09 Wed [1]

what are ....WORK.... cloves?

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MontanaFest info...........coupla things.... -- Norwester, 20:08:52 08/26/09 Wed [1]

.
...IF you're coming early (2nd, 3rd or 4th) to help with
some clean-up, BRING OLD WORK CLOTHES that you don't care
about getting paint or dirt on....

For those arriving early, we're gonna do some dinner meals
there, incl. Rib Eyes the evening of the 3rd, and Earl's
gonna arrive in time to fire up his cooker to do Brats
and maybe some Polski sausages if IDT brings any over for
the evening of the 4th . . . We'll have ham, roast beef,
and turkey and fixins' on hand for sandwiches, too, during
that pre-Fest clean-up time......

Lastly, I may bring along some sundry JEWELRY items IF
any guys are looking for some 'deals' on rings or earrings
or such for Christmas presents, etc. early....

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it should be a couple degrees cooler there......JC -- Pyrite, 18:03:09 08/26/09 Wed [1]

An wreck MY house? Hell too.
Yoo don't git off dat eezy.

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118 the day of th shoot,, -- cashcobb, 17:44:54 08/26/09 Wed [1]

maybe you should stay in sacramento--it should be a couple degrees cooler there......JC

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Hey, folks....why doesn't everyone just GET OFF Wolfie's ass! -- Norwester, 16:26:59 08/26/09 Wed [1]

.
..it's obviously a very PERSONAL and serious situation he's
currently facing and has been fighting/recovering from for
serveral years, now....He's still FAR from "full health" and,
as such, literally has to safeguard himself FROM contact
with foodstuffs that would re-trigger problems in his very
diminished immune system....as I understand it....
.
So, it's FUN to jab and poke, and I've been as guilty as
the next guy, BUT IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON and accept his
serious situation as "not a laughing matter" when it IS,
indeed, literally a life and death proposition for him...
In other words, a little SUPPORT and encouragement and
understanding is a much better expression of concern....

and, YEAH, it appears that Wulfie has overreacted, but
I might well have done the same if I were in the grips of
my body rejecting me and the frustrations accompanying
the treatment regime he's having to follow to get back to
health.....Most of us would just throw in the towel...

O.K. ?

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Rio -- audude, 15:08:19 08/26/09 Wed [1]

There's no need to make things worse

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lame apology -- AeweWuf, 14:32:16 08/26/09 Wed [1]

not nearly as lame as the ongoing gluten jokes.

lets pitch a couple Leukocytoclastic vasculitis cracks!
its all in good fun!
but it's not the same thing?!?

it seems that my point was never made, after all.

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sum jokes (?) -- Pyrite, 14:14:21 08/26/09 Wed [1]

1. I was walking through the cemetery this morning and
saw a guy crouching down behind a tombstone. I
said "morning." He said "no just taking a crap".

2. When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a
new bike. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't
work that way, so I stole a bike and asked him to
forgive me.

3. My girlfriend was in labor with our first child.
She was shouting out "get this out of me? Give
me the drugs." She looked at me and said, "You
did this to me you bastard!" I casually replied,
"If you would care to remember, I wanted to
stick it up your ass but you said, "it'll be too
painful."

4. I went to an extremely attractive female doctor
today for my annual checkup. She told me that
I had to quit masturbating. I asked why and she
told me, "because I am trying to examine you."

5. I was walking down the road today and saw my
Afghani neighbor, Abdul, standing on his fifth
floor apartment balcony shaking a carpet. I shouted
up to him, "What's up Abdul, won't it start?"

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It'll prolly be 118 on shoot day. -- Pyrite, 12:44:37 08/26/09 Wed [1]


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Mr. T.. Young -- audude, 11:38:11 08/26/09 Wed [1]

Are you joining us ?

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Dup @ temps,, -- cashcobb, 10:52:58 08/26/09 Wed [1]

My thermometer has only seen two 95 degree days and one 97 this year--a 100 is rare--have not seen a night low below 50 (yet)--expect a pleasant labor day weekend........JC

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Dup -- audude, 10:28:45 08/26/09 Wed [1]

I'll be there with my Son...
I've gatta couple Kooks lying around
and will bring one with.

No Poker in my Future though.
I'm doing a great job parting with
my dough already.

Wolfie,

That was a lame apology

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Divisible one oz silver bars......HAR! -- Pyrite, 10:13:45 08/26/09 Wed [1]

Nuffin new under da sun.



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Cobbah, looked at the Libby forecast -- duppy, 10:08:31 08/26/09 Wed [1]

40F at night 90-100F during the day?

What's up wid dis?

hard to pack small.

dUp

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Sorry to hear that Wolfie...... -- duppy, 09:36:00 08/26/09 Wed [1]

I was looking forward to visitin wid ya......
dUp

Northwest Territorial Mint is thinking ahead......
no kneed (gluten joke)to cut corners when making change.

http://bullion.nwtmint.com/silver_stagecoach.php?cid=193

Divisible one oz silver bars......HAR!

dUp.....

MudT, rack, Pyrite and his bettah nine tenths,earl, cobbah, NWstah and dUp.....am I missing anyone?

No scramble for seats at the pokah game.

Whose bringin' the kook for a spin?

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I explained everything -- AeweWuf, 03:14:30 08/26/09 Wed [1]

To Soggy over the phone...
he can pass whatever details he wishes
at the fest.
I doubt i'll be attending, unless this
cabin fever takes hold and i make the
run at the last minute.
nothing personal, its just too complicated
to deal with while trying to enjoy the
fest.... is there such thing as a gluten
free hooker?
yarrrrrrrrrrrrr

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no joke -- AeweWuf, 19:06:53 08/25/09 Tue [1]

the issue is, ppl don't get it.
in many minds it's just another diet.
trying to cut thru the chaff and be sure
the message is clear about just how
complicated it is. and the costs of
blowing it, for not being paranoid
enough... its easier to live in a bubble.

as far as my condition a year ago.
dr says i had one foot in the dirt hole.

sorry if i bent noses a bit further than
expected, but i couldn't tell if anything
was sinking in. mz pierite's issues were
my future, celiac testing would be wise
if not done already.

the cure isn't a pill (they're working on it)
the cure is walking a narrow path that
never ends. it takes 7 years to get back
to something close to normal so you
can afford contamination. until then
about any disease you can think of can
easily pop up and bone you good.
its autoimmune self distruction.
the gluten shit is everywhere.
and it is death.

please, tip your servers

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Gold is going to the moon while you guys are at the -- Monoimos, 18:04:41 08/25/09 Tue [1]

Libby Campout.It will come down when you get back.

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2009 -- moonshot -- Pyrite, 13:14:40 08/25/09 Tue [1]

That pitcher EXCITES me. Exotic positions like that are too much for me an da ole lady.

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2009 -- moonshot, 12:58:37 08/25/09 Tue [1]




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By the way...... -- Pyrite, 11:19:33 08/25/09 Tue [1]

Have ya considered swappin the shoot for a CANE TOSS?
Cud be more appropriate.
BRIDGE for poker shud also get some consideration.
Ditto some ...er... attendants.... for something like a picnic near WATER!

Anna AARP meetin shudn't be outta da quextion.

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All I hope -- Pyrite, 11:13:56 08/25/09 Tue [1]

is dat Earl's chickens can be PROVEN to only have had BEER up their butts.

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...it was....after all.....a gluten-free chicken.... heh-heh... -- Norwester, 11:06:36 08/25/09 Tue [1]

*

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sssshhhhh! PieRite....yur not 'spozed to mention that unproven... -- Norwester, 11:05:43 08/25/09 Tue [1]

.
...affair with me an da consenting chicken! sheesh...

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I guess the strained tendons in my wrist don't count.... -- Norwester -- Pyrite, 10:57:24 08/25/09 Tue [1]

Did you get the accompanying palm warts?

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so I guess the strained tendons in my wrist don't count.... -- Norwester, 10:38:32 08/25/09 Tue [1]

.
..for much amongst this group of serious sickies, eh?
sheesh....why, I can't hardly HOLD a deck o' cards in
that hand to deal!

latex gloves? sheesh....wheninhell did ALL of this
massive "gluten" thing HIT you, Wolfie -- or, more
specifically, what INDICATED to you that you had some
sort of major dietetic problem and when ????

You looked plenty healthy to me last time I saw ya...

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can't take a joke -- AeweWuf -- Pyrite, 10:02:12 08/25/09 Tue [1]

Well, there's 2 things you should know by now.

1. I joke with everyone and seldom post serious shit.
2. I would NEVER mess with someone's food to cause them harm.

As far as health goes, the Pyrite pair is dealing with their own and possibly as dire.

Sondra has contracted Leukocytoclastic vasculitis and she's looking forward to the Libby trip even though it could prove to be a complication.

It's auto immune in nature and serious as a heart attack or more so. It can erupt anywhere and last month hit her kidneys and spiked her urine protein parabolically and turned serious in a flash. She takes massive doses of a "starter" chemo drug and it still erupts. It was only discovered and diagnosed a matter of a few months ago but has altered our lives dramatically.

If it "happens" to head for an organ other than the kidney, it can. A heart or brain lesion IS a possibility.

I didn't plan to make it known, but this changed my mind. You're not the only one with problems.

I plan to make the trip as enjoyable as possible and I try to keep HER spirits up with jokes and shit, too.
You can rest assured that my joking was not intended as an insult to your condition.

Which just leaves the hanging "asshole" to be dealt with.

If it was a term of endearment, everything's cool.
If it was serious, a retraction is in order and we'll be good to go.

How's that?

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can't take a joke -- AeweWuf, 03:13:18 08/25/09 Tue [1]

when you find yourself planning wheelchair ramps and looking forward to being blind and without
kidneys... then the amputations, laying in a bed
drooling for loss of brain function... etc.

ICU jokes kinda loose their charm

besides, y'all already knew pierite is an asshole
yaaaarrrrrrr

i'm still not sure how to play poker with a pack
of drunken, gluten swilling pirates without cutting a new
deck every hand... can't use latex gloves.
there are gluten free vacation resorts for this sort of thing

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audude -- Pyrite, 18:14:25 08/24/09 Mon [1]

1. Yes. The room will be dark and I will have a flashlight and the 10/22 with the banana clip.

2. No. The cultural environment is not ready for such sophisticated entertainment.

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It's gettin too close to what I ....HOPE... will be a good FUN time. -- audude, 16:01:14 08/24/09 Mon [1]

That Depends...

1) Can we have the Knife throwing Contest
in your room after a night of drinking ?

2) Are you bringing the Hurdy Gurdy ?

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after a time, you'll get over the sudden loss of appetite.--Earl -- Pyrite, 12:18:08 08/24/09 Mon [1]

but the AMBIANCE can't be beet.

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Will this be on the Libby menu? -- duppy -- Earl, 11:54:38 08/24/09 Mon [1]

Pyrite has a larger display area .......... after a time, you'll get over the sudden loss of appetite.

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Will this be on the Libby menu? -- duppy, 11:31:57 08/24/09 Mon [1]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/6061325/Londoners-offered-chance-to-eat-sushi-off-naked-models.html

Is Sondra available ifn we kant find a London model?

Is this on Wolfies diet plan?

Signed
Curious

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And now back to NORWESTER'S -- Pyrite, 11:16:59 08/24/09 Mon [1]

goofy Hawaiian shirts!

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I've requested and GOT -- Pyrite, 11:14:39 08/24/09 Mon [1]

The "offending" posts removed. I ...mistakenly... thot ALL of us wuz onna same page.
Obviously NOT!
So, the subject kin be changed at any time.

I've noted the response and given it my full attention.
Nuff said about that.

It's gettin too close to what I ....HOPE... will be a good FUN time.

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ima one-handed neck breakah ifn da layah -- duppy, 10:31:07 08/24/09 Mon [1]

dint lay know mo'....i really hate it when the head comes off completely. Iz think Iz learnt da technique from Wolfie....you liztenin Larree?

i hope clean livin' rOle mOdel isz bringin' his vapOrizah.

i kin be food testah fur ya, wOlfie....

dUp

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Wolfie.....calm down....you KNOW PieRite was kiddin'.... -- Norwester, 01:02:49 08/24/09 Mon [1]

.
..and while we're all both sorry to hear that you've
apparently been suffering from whateverinhell it is that
you've been suffering, you should know ALL of us better
than that and know we're supportive...but, hell, if we
can't KID you now and again, well, how's the saying go?
"If ya can't take a joke, pheck ya!" ....

We'll be fully supportive of whatever eating program
you're on if you make it to the 'Fest....

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as if... -- AeweWuf, 00:19:04 08/24/09 Mon [1]

it were remotely funny... asshole

I'll put it this way instead...

anyone caught fuckin with my grub will be beaten about their bloody face and shoulders, if they're lucky.

thats my dr's advise anyway... she's bible thumping
mennonite and wouldn't even think twice about killin' ur ass
over it.

i hope the point has been made.

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We took a vote, PieRite [uh...me'n Earl, that iz] ...... -- Norwester -- Pyrite, 23:05:51 08/23/09 Sun [1]

Rack may pose no hazard. Frum whut I bin readin, he won't be able to CHAMBER the stretched out ballooned things he calls reloads unless he reams the chamber out to 12 gauge.

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finger lickin' -- AeweWuf, 22:55:39 08/23/09 Sun [1]

gratefully, i dont have hypercrapping exposure issues :P
but i'll bring everything i need to be independent and risk
exposure if the environment seems worthy.
when i,rarely, go to a restaurant, i demand clean pans and no
grills and no spices except virgin olive oil, salt, lemon and
butter.
they always fuck it up with some other contaminate anyway.
getting bbq sause on my portion and then wiping it off is
grounds for target practice with a serving fork.
friends that ask me over, after a year of bitching... still
fuck it up. they don't know where gluten hides in the kitchen. tis everywhere. I threw everything in my kitchen
away and started over. the cookware, flatware, plates,
and pots/pans, etc. even the throw rugs and dog food.

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We took a vote, PieRite [uh...me'n Earl, that iz] ...... -- Norwester, 22:53:35 08/23/09 Sun [1]

.
...we've appointed YOU as "range marshall" for the Great
Shoot-Off and, uf coors, yur primary responsibility (in
addition to picking up ALL spent cartridge casings) will
be to verify that the loads being used in the bigger-
caliber pistols [...um....such as Rack's .45] are, INDEED,
safe and usable without peppering the spectators with
shrapnel....You'll DO that, uf coors, by personally
firing-off a quick 3-shot burst from such pistols....

(We will, uf coors, be clustered behind the cars making
lotsa "Oooooohs" and "AaaaaHHHs" in support....
.
....can ah haff yur Walther afterwards?

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An I hope there will be a RESPONSIBLE ADULT -- Pyrite, 22:34:55 08/23/09 Sun [1]

who will remove all guns from Rack before he blows us all up!

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Wolfie....I gather that you WON'T be joining us for finger-lickin' -- Norwester, 22:27:00 08/23/09 Sun [1]

.
...ribs, beer-can chicken, or [gasp!] medium-rare filets
at Libby this year, eh ? Or, we could cuisinart up a
messa elodea and watercrest wid a dash of cod liver oil
for ya in JC's blender ????

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Pyrite, I loaded up some 230gr JHP magnums -- Rack, 21:04:30 08/23/09 Sun [1]

I don't know how but I was able to pack 50gr of W231 into one case after another. That Gold Cup would eat these babies like candy!

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bogart -- AeweWuf, 20:27:14 08/23/09 Sun [1]

such sharing is a source for gluten contamination.
one case study showed how a couple, which were stricly following contamination protocols, dosed
the husband who was contaminated by exposure to wife's
fingers after eating... he'd sit on the outhouse for an
hour as a 'classic celiac' exposure reaction.
(as opposed to 'latent or silent celiac' who has other
symtoms, not excluding hypercrapping.) repeated contamination
can renew brain damage; plaque building, scaring,
and substandard oxygenation (brain perfusion) of the critical
grey matter.
(brain fog)resulting in reduced cognative function and worse.
gata stay clean for six or seven years befor dropping your
guard.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15334770?dopt=Abstract

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AeweWuf............... -- Pyrite, 18:56:17 08/23/09 Sun [1]

Do you bogart yer vaporizer?

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ANOTHER thing you NEVER do wid a High Standard -- Pyrite, 18:34:13 08/23/09 Sun [1]

is use the slide release to release the slide.
It WILL round off the slide corner to the point where the slide release won't even HOLD the slide back.
But then, that's onlee common sense.
I mean WHO in their right mind would go releasin the slide with the slide release?

Now the ROOGER deals wit da issue by havin a slide release that is too fuckin STIFF to push down an release the slide.

WHICH... affer all is sed n dun ackshully TRAINS ya to do it properly in da first place where yer SPOSED to release da slide by pullin the slide back an releasin it.

(even applies to the 1911. I wood snatch my Gold Cup away fum any dam fool hoo looked like he wuz gonna release the slide with the slide release)

Dere's a lotta frickshun on that liddle corner where the slide release fits up in da slide.

Am I clear?

There will be a quiz at Libby an anyone missin da slide release quextion will be docked 12 points.

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shuutin duubees -- AeweWuf, 16:31:48 08/23/09 Sun [1]

ppl doon smok doobies anny mo', use vaporizers


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If I kin remember -- Pyrite, 15:35:13 08/23/09 Sun [1]

I'm gonna bring this, too.



More akkrit than ANY twenny too. We kin shoot in da back yard. See who can pop a doobie outta Aewewuf's mouf.

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The High Standard I used to own was a pain in the ass!--Rack -- Pyrite, 15:31:53 08/23/09 Sun [1]

Ya ..... DO NOT..... "dry fire" a Hi Stannerd.
NO NO NO NO NO
Itza bitch cuz ya can't practice wid it inna house.
It WILL (as you noticed) peen that goddam chamber mouth.
I use snap caps to click it after shootin.
Pain in the ASS.
I ...had... a gizmo set up once with a big red rubber band around da muzzle an over da chamber.
It sorta worked. But the extractor kept cuttin da rubber band.
Da ROOGER is designed to dry fire.

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The High Standard has a very light hammer fall. -- Rack, 15:10:27 08/23/09 Sun [1]

The High Standard I used to own was a pain in the ass! Toward the end I discovered that the firing spring was installed backwards and it had a nasty habit of scumming up and also if you dried fired it, it would pein the chamber in-had to use a jack knife to cut away the excess. You might try oiling it with transmission oil, that seems to wok real well. CLP does also

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Yo, duppy -- Pyrite, 13:52:06 08/23/09 Sun [1]

Whaddya do with them pet baby chicks when they get old and the vet bills start pilin up?
Do ya "put em to sleep" or just keep buyin pills?

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Aaaauuuuuu....3-5 tornados 10 miles north o da Promisedland -- duppy, 12:52:59 08/23/09 Sun [1]

yesterday, seperate front from the Bill.

Currently warm sunny and muggy as i make a new home for my baby chicks.

Regards,

dUp

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hurricane bill@duppy -- AeweWuf, 12:35:47 08/23/09 Sun [1]

hows it going in the prommis land

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My USUAL problems with .22 ammo -- Pyrite, 10:40:57 08/23/09 Sun [1]

was with FEDERALS. Aaaargh. Duds! LOTS of duds.
Apparently Remington has started using tough brass too.
This is the first time I've had problems with failure to fire on Remington.
The High Standard has a very light hammer fall.
The ROOGER has a Stanley ball pein hammer in it.
I think Roogers start the bullet with the hammer fall and then the powder takes over when it finally catches fire.

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psssssssttttt......Misser PieRite...here's a YOUtube critique ... -- Norwester -- Pyrite, 10:37:13 08/23/09 Sun [1]

YAAAAHHHHHahahahahaha. Onee time I saw "leading" like dat wuz when a buddy who lived in NORTH DAKOTA (so ya know heez crazee) and who regularly loaded ammo to...oh... about 40% over "max", cooked up some really spiffy .38 WADCUTTERS!
Pure lead.
He figgered that the wadcutter shape was optimal for STOPPING so the only thing they lacked was VELOCITY.
An he got VELOCITY!
The first 3 shots were FFFUUUUUNNNNN!!!
We shot at a lake about 150 yards away an there wuz splashes awmost before the blast reached yer eerz.
BUT... suddenly he wuz MISSING the abandoned PANEL TRUCK we wuz usin fer a targit.
An I do mean MISSIN da truck. At about 25 yards.
We lookt at da muzzle an it wuz squoze down to prolly 34 caliber or so an that lead wuz FLOWING outta da hole.
He spent a week unleading that gun.

Tarbo's favrit guy, John Robie, also had a gun that we shot .38 wadcutters outta.

Onee problem wuz, us kids dint know it wuz a .41 Colt.

The boolets sorta went wherever they wanted.

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wuzzat "first" gun there, PieRite ? looks like a HiStandard... -- Norwester -- Pyrite, 10:26:32 08/23/09 Sun [1]

I bot that Hi Stannerd in 1976 for silhouette shootin.
Da grips is Herret's an they wuz onnit at da last Libby.

The .22 rifle I will be using is an exotic model that I bot in 1967. They didn't make many of them. But I figgered wot da hell...ya onee live once.
Itza rare match gun called a Ruger 10/22
Few have seen one. I hesitate to travel with it as highwaymen could be alerted and waylay me.

If ya buy NOTZEE stuff, lemme know if ya get one of these.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7685/hitmed2xq.jpg
Evverone hoo sees mine wants ta buy it.
But I spose if ya buy one, yood prolly sell it yerself, ya selfish basserd.

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I bought one of these the other day.....for any Nazi buffs.... -- Norwester, 23:40:44 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
...and/or Military collectibles buffs or knife folks:

http://www.militarycollectiblesinc.com/pictures.php?file=da10075

The one I bought has a fair amount of the nickel-plating
worn off, but the sheath and blade are at least 85-90%
condition and both serial numbers on the blade and the
sheath are matched....no leather belt hanger, however...
Apparently, pristine models of these trade [or are at least
OFFERED ] in the $4-$5K range regularly....I 'spect this
one should still be worth $2500. or so....

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psssssssttttt......Misser PieRite...here's a YOUtube critique ... -- Norwester, 23:30:28 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
...of that fine Remington ammo ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjbsuJhr_zE

....juss like yur toenails....waxy buildup! heh...

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I bought one of these a while back, 'cause they're so damn -- Norwester, 23:18:47 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
...purty and 'classic' lookin' ....wish someone would
make a 10- or 20-round clip for them, however....Haven't
given it a try-out as yet, but have heard nothing but
good reports about them:

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/rimfireR55Classic.php

...yeah, I'll bring it to Libby and we'll find out...

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wuzzat "first" gun there, PieRite ? looks like a HiStandard... -- Norwester, 23:14:19 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
...."match" quality er something ???? purty fancy grips...

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(message continued...) -- Norwester, 23:11:40 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
....expect to HAVE that kind of an encounter nowadays in
an "uptown" classy print shop fulla urban Yuppies, so it
was a pleasant way to start the day....

Oh, and she allowed that she mighta 'accidentally' run an
'extra' 20 or so copies, but wasn't going to charge me
for them.....She did ask, however, "What's the significance
of the 'PYRITE 2012' thing in the center circle"....
heh-heh.....

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gunz -- Pyrite, 23:09:19 08/22/09 Sat [1]

first one. Same as I use ever year.


Rooger



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Stopped at a KINKO'S this morning to get targets printed.... -- Norwester, 23:08:38 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
...the little dollie behind the counter beamed with joy
when I laid the targets down for copying..."OH! I love to
go shooting....we go almost every Monday!"....catching ME
a bit offguard with her reaction -- this from a wisp of a
thing maybe 5'3" and 100 lbs dripping wet!
She dug out her cell phone to show me photos of her and
her girlfriend at a gun range recently and, sure enough,
there she is tightly gripping an AK-47 with 30-round
banana clip while the girlfriend's choice was an AR-15 !!!
heh-heh.....Ya just DON'T

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O.K., PieRite,.......I'm curious as to what these pistols were...... -- Norwester, 22:52:20 08/22/09 Sat [1]

the first one:

"Insert magazine into fine target pistol" ....WHAT make
and model was that ?

and secondly,
"15. Try shit ammo in RUGER pistol
16. Praise crude but reliable RUGER"
......WHAT model/type is the 'crude but reliable RUGER"??

[ I'm axin' 'cause I picked up a .22/45 bull-barrel Ruger
stainless not long back and haven't tried it as yet....

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"best 5 outta 50"????? nope...you ain't usin' the sawed-off -- Norwester, 18:18:56 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
....shotgun......period....

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Sounds like those Remingtons have tough primer caps ? -- Norwester, 18:18:19 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
...that only a Ruger could love ? heh-heh...

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FIVE SHOTS, PieRite.. -- Norwester -- Pyrite, 17:05:42 08/22/09 Sat [1]

Best 5 outta 50?

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Goin Shootin 101 -- Pyrite, 16:18:04 08/22/09 Sat [1]

1. Go to shootin place
2. Set up target
3. Load magazine
4. Insert magazine into fine target pistol
5. Chamber round
6. Aim carefully
7. Listen to shitty little "click"
8. Curse volubly and energetically
9. Eject dud round
10. Take entire box of crapass REMINGTON shit shells and toss downrange
11. Load magazine with decent CCI ammo
12. Shoot until tired
13. Get idea
14. Go downrange and pick up box of shit ammo you were gonna use for a TARGET
15. Try shit ammo in RUGER pistol
16. Praise crude but reliable RUGER
17. Post experience that others may learn

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FIVE SHOTS, PieRite....same as in the past....so.... -- Norwester, 13:25:00 08/22/09 Sat [1]

.
....don' be trying to squeeze-off a quick "double shot"
like you did last time....we're ON to yur tricks!

YAR!

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