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Date Posted: 22:02:48 04/19/08 Sat
Author: mkim Love Sick gives you more DJE than you thought...let me tell ya!!
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I may hate myself in the morning, but.....

HOLY CRAP!!!! THAT MAN IS FINE!!!

West Coaster...dont miss this!

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[> About an hour and 15 minutes worth, how's that ladies. We havent seen this much DJE on TV since 2005!! Not all at once, anyway. -- mkim, 23:31:09 04/19/08 Sat [1]

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[> I agree, mkim. If I had someone like Rick, I think I'd be addicted, too, and I don't think I'd care one bit! -- Lee, 23:34:03 04/19/08 Sat [1]

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[> [> I have to say, I'm surprised we got to see...ahem, that much of him, though it was tastefully done...its like ...somebody saw my wish list! LOL!!! -- mkim Dang! those people have been reading my little mind, 23:47:49 04/19/08 Sat [1]

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[> Awwwww! I totally forgot about it! DRAT!!!!! -- bummed out sj, 23:42:13 04/19/08 Sat [1]

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[> [> Surely they'll repeat it over this week sometime, sj! -- mkim You might not like Rick....but you wont be able to keep from looking. Whoo Hoo!!, 23:49:36 04/19/08 Sat [1]

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[> I have to wait til it gets sent to me but I am thinking this will be a throw back to the old "Melrose Place" Terry or Nick del Gado. Lots of skin and boxers??? -- can j, 00:16:09 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> But....BETTER!!!! -- mkim What is it about the way this guy takes off a shirt????, 00:26:33 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> -- Hope, 00:44:16 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> -- Hope, 00:46:36 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> Thank you Hope! I was gone but set the recorder-- and it didn't record!!!! dad blame it, frickafracka@*^%$ -- manette, 01:43:28 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> OH! What we could have seen with Harm and Mac! Damn it! Anyone else think it's odd they are both CB's costars? What a weird coincidence. -- Theresa, 03:04:41 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> I do Theresa, and something else that was kinda weird, all through this movie we had commercials with showing CB on Army wives, they even had her picture pop up during the movie. See? They still have a huge following, even on separate shows. LOL -- mkim Another thing, and i'm sure it was just me, but everytime SP said the word 'harm' I'd think...."Harm!" you know, the REEL one., 13:53:18 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> For more screen caps from Love Sick Click Here -- Hope, 00:47:37 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> Thank you so much HOPE!! You're my HERO too. I've not seen this movie yet, but I hope someone nice will send it to me soon, Can't wait to watch.. -- Maya, 06:37:08 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> I was just looking at our new page ten clips and thought it must have taken forever to film those few seconds of steamy sex scene. - If you look at the sheets, they're always in a different position and it doesn't seem like the natural progression of movement but the strategic rearranging of a set crew - lol- That must be a really (sorry have to say this) Hard job. LOL -- chris k, 10:46:22 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> yeah chris k, it was a dirty job...but someone had to do it! LOL! -- mkim, 13:55:24 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> And isn't it great that the job got done to the end. -- jenks, 16:57:36 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> big wide grin -- mkim, 17:08:55 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> Thanks so much Hope for the great screen caps as usual. David sure was sexy and more buffed than ever IMHO. -- Bernadette, 11:56:35 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> Hope....I'll say it again! You are my hero!!!! -- mkim THANK YOU!!!!, 00:48:31 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> Darn! I totally forgot to set my recorder, and was out tonight. I just checked TV Guide and it says no showings in the next 2 weeks. What's up with that? I thought Lifetime repeated everything. -- Ann, 01:20:26 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> Love ya Hope. Since I will probably never get to see the movie, I'll have to watch vicariously through the screen caps. -- Katiegirl (the downside to living at the a*#e end of the world), 01:33:19 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> Wow the screencaps are awesome, I hope us Brits gte to see it. -- Caroluk, 04:08:46 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> Can you imagine the "girl talk" on the set of Army Wives. LOL...OH what Harm and Mac could have been. What season 10 or FWFS could have been. D** DPB -- Diana, 08:41:46 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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I'm fanning myself here. -- Buckiles, 09:10:52 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> face it - the Harm Mac shipper in me is wishing I could take the last minutes of HandF in Harm's apartment and then add those few minutes of Love Sick, Edit out the blonde hair - and loop it forever to the song 100 years . LOL> -- chris k, 10:38:22 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> Don't think it can't be done chris k. LOL! -- Theresa, 13:16:10 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> that's okay I just close my eyes and dream!! LOL- -- chris k, 13:23:05 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> I was blocking out Sally with my hand and just imagining Mac there instead (okay, sometimes it was me!). -- Irishrainy, 16:17:02 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> I tried to watch it, but I was incredibly bored. I started flipping channels and forgot it was on after that. I know shock of all shock. HAE being in it wasnt even enough to sit through the ignorant storyline. My opinion only i'm sure. LOL -- Trish...if the lead actress didny deliver her lines so badly it might have been interesting., 11:22:59 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> I was at a gathering at a friend's house for dinner with a few Texas Tarts - we glanced at it from time to time during dinner and afterwards, then, when it was over CAZ turned on the tivo and fast forwarded to the HAE parts- boy was it a thril to see him again - when I didn't watch the plot, just saw his scenes, it was like watching my Harm in season 13 LOL!!!- I just kept pretending it was Mac - lol- I can't help it - I'll be a Harm Mac shipper to the grave. LOL -- chris k, 12:24:50 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> I'm right there with your chris k. The weirdest thing was when they would have a pop up for Army Wives and their was MAE in the little popup when HAE was on screen. Very weird. -- Hope, 13:19:59 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> LOL- I know - we all said the same thing !!! I can't imagine what it would have been like had MAE done the role instead- I think it would have been an insane shock to the system !!! LOl- -- chris k, 13:25:13 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> I did the same thing. I tried watching but it was silly and boring. I just watched the HAE parts and he looks incredible for 47. Wow! I'm wondering why he consented to be in this movie. -- judi, 13:25:44 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> Hi, judi, it's me, The few of you here have answered my concerns about HAE being cast in this role and this movie. I think it was an admirable endeavor of the author to write this book and get help for her addiction, but did our hero have to play the role of the 'schnook'?! I've ever only seen him as Harm, in fact, he IS Harm, to me, so hearing all the feedback about this role is bumming me out. Of course, I didn't and won't see the movie as I'm in the UK -- maybe I'll see it when I'm stateside this summer if they repeat it. inside -- mj, 14:45:33 04/20/08 Sun [1]

It's all too weird for me that the role he played here exploited his sexuality. It seems twisted. Oh well! Any of the screencaps they show and any comments about him with the female lead in this role, I will also think of him in a good way with Mac in these scenes. And they are raving about his performance on the for DJEfans website, so it's not all negative. At least his next impending role is as an astrophysicist who saves the world. I probably won't see that either on it's first run, but it'll be nice hearing about him in a role suited to his physicality and 'sympatico' disposition. I've often thought he would make a good Indiana Jones type.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I don't like to see him exploited either, mj. I'm surprised he actually accepted this role. He did another one many years ago called The Shrink is In and it was a horrible movie and he was definitely exploited. That's not to say I don't like seeing him without his shirt but this wasn't the right place for it, IMO. But darn, he looks incredible. LOLOL -- judi who loves looking at him but..., 16:27:01 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> I just wish Lifetime would do a movie and let DAE and MAE star as characters in a torrid love affair so we could all watch it on mute! -- Erk, 15:46:58 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> LOL! I'm the same way. Maybe we can pretend that Mac dyed her hair blonde. OK. I got it. Harm and Mac have a small child now, who was experimenting, and as a result of an unfortunate accident involving peroxide or something, Mac had to dye her hair. LOL -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 14:44:41 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> WoW Hope! Thanks for the great screen caps! This movie was filmed in a town close to Vancouver, that I go through many many times. But alas, we don't get to SEE it! Now is that right? Is that fair? Is that just? I say NOOOOOOOOOO. This puts to rest all our theories about why we never got to see "more" of Harm. (Inside for more serious comments.) -- Cece, 13:31:35 04/20/08 Sun [1]

A little birdie told me the plot lines, and I'm in two minds if I want to see it or not. I am not being sour grapes....truly I'm not. But the subject matter is something I just can't take anymore.

There's one pic in the screen caps with a little kid in it, and the DJE character is looking sexy-eyed across the table. The idea that someone can have an affair, knowing they are hurting their families, particularly their children, is literally nausea inducing.

I don't believe there is such a thing as "sex addiction", and nor do respectable psychologists. Give me a frickin' break. To me, it's just an excuse for feeling horney all the time (and we've all been through that surely.) Put it this way, if there were no good looking men available to the "sex-addicted" wife, would she just have to climb into bed with any old scrofulous, flee bitten, moss-toothed, dirty toenailed neighbour? I doubt it. Whereas a true addict wouldn't care where she got her fix.

I think that DJE must have taken this role because he was doing a friend a favour.

HOWEVER, I would probably give it a look (being as these pics are totally irrisistable). I shall ask the mighty RDOL, oh she who must be worshipped, to burn me a DJE....er DVD. LOL.

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[> [> I had my misgivings about this movie too. But, I really do think this movie has something to say, though i dont think 2 hours is enough to do it. I wish there had been another hour, so that we could see more of the 'journey' to wellness, so that I could understand her addiction. The author posted her thoughts on the commentary after the movie on the DJEfan site. I think it was courageous of her to share this problem with the world & open herself up to ridicule. I certainly wouldnt have the guts to do it. I think I know where youre coming from Cece, but I think the movie was well intentioned. -- mkim, 14:07:54 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> Inside as this a bit on the personal side.... -- Trish, 14:17:47 04/20/08 Sun [1]

As a survivor of sexual assault, I can't imagine that act would make me WANT sex more. (Even with DJE) LOL
I'm not discounting any of the authors experiences, but I can not fathom how being molested at a young age could turn any woman into a sexual addict.A drug addict or an alcoholic maybe. Sure you are looking for that love you feel you didnt get from your father and maybe the acceptance, but sex? *I* am only going on MY personal experience. I wasnt a child at the time either, so maybe that is where the distinction lies.

My problem was in the actress herself. I love her in Army Wives. I just could NOT buy her in this role.
I caught the part where she was telling the psychologist why she acted the way she did (the part about her father) and I didnt believe her. There was no emotion, it was all so clinical. IMO the actress didnt fit the part and it just didnt hold my attention as being true to life.

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[> [> [> I don't want to comment about someone's experiences with sexual abuse. I won't be going over to the ForDJE board. (Inside) -- Cece, 14:40:30 04/20/08 Sun [1]

I do listen to psychologists, and I am aware of sexual abuse cases. I'm very sympathetic to the victims, until they make victims out of other people. That's where my sympathy stops. FULL STOP.

There are millions of people who have suffered from abuse, without using it as an excuse to further victimize. I have ZERO tolerance for people who cheat on their spouses, or have affairs with other people's spouses.

If she is looking for a "father figure", why look at someone else's father? There are plenty of men who are happy to service you, if you are desperate.

This tell all and movie are cheap ways of exploiting an ugly experience. The actor and actress are beautiful people, and that, in itself, glorifies the action. As we all love to joke here, who wouldn't want to have an affair with a man this good looking?

If you are going to do a movie that sends a message, don't airbrush and soft-focus. Make the people ordinary (like the Brits did in movies such as Alphie, or Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, or A Taste of Honey,)and show the sleazy side to such affairs. Because that's what they are: sleazy, sickening, and soul-destroying. I'm disappointed in DJE.

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[> [> [> [> Maybe that is what bothered me. All the actors were beautiful people and made it seem like a GOOD thing. -- Trish, 14:43:39 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> Indeed, sexual addiction (or whatever it is -- looking for love in all the wrong places addiction, maybe?!) seemed glamorous with such beautiful people depicting it. And, like I said, in my post above -- considering the theme of the movie and considering that HAE has such a powerful , sexual screen presence, it just seemed twisted to cast him in this role! How differently we would have thought of her behaviour if, say, the guy who play Vukovic was cast in this role! -- mj, 15:08:48 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> ACK! The thought of that character still turns my stomach. -- mkim, 16:23:51 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Sorry, mkim LOL, I couldn't resist naming Vukovic -- but you get my point exactly. I mean HAE played a character who we should not be attracted to here -- he was sleazy in this role -- right? inside -- mj (who didn't see the movie), 18:01:39 04/20/08 Sun [1]

but, it seems like everyone is having a hard time 'feeling' that because a)HAE and Harm is the guy we all love b) HAE hasn't been in anything since, well, for ages and everyone was so happy just to see him again, 3)he just doesn't have that sleazy thing going on in him, no matter what he plays. I mean, I've not seen him in anything else but JAG and screencaps and some on line footage of some of his other roles, and he just never seems sleazy! Maybe if I would've seen him in that Melrose Place role, I'd think differently. Hero Harm leaves a pretty indelible impression! The guy that played Vukovic does sleazy real well -even without trying!!! LOL

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> He was definitely NOT a good guy in this movie, not one characteristic I saw could be seen as sympathetic. Did I LOVE seeing this guy on TV? YES!! Would I want to see him in a continuing role on a Tv series as this character. Absolutely NOT!! I'd protest!! LOL! -- mkim I dont think I'll ever get over Harm the hero..I never intend to try.(smile), 23:23:10 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I loved seeing DJE ( WOW!). He did a great job, I didn't dislike him nor did I think that he was wonderful. I wouldn't want him to play this type of part all the time and I don't think that he would either JMO, but I chose to look at him as someone who was addicted and chose to ignore his addiction.(inside) -- Dani R, 15:30:12 04/21/08 Mon [1]

The part definitely showed us DJE's acting ability. Fortunately, the other roles that we have heard that he has played and, in the case of the miniseries, will play sounds like he is the good guy we know and love. I guess this gives TPTB a chance to see that he can do well in parts besides the lawyer or the military man or the cop and visually he looks incredible so way to go DJE.

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[> [> [> [> I watched the movie in awe... -- Erk, 15:42:05 04/20/08 Sun [1]

Sadly, in today's world, there are so many grown-ups that are so egocentric they cannot see how their actions impact others. This is in no way justification, but the movie really did show you how it works for some. The scene where the female lead is sitting at a table discussing her affair with her friend. (Her friend did seem midly put-off by the girl's actions, but only enough to hint at it.) The lead made a comment along the lines that no one would get hurt...

Now (hoping I am not going too personal) I would like to say that the movie does hold a lot of truth. (Though, I do not believe in sex addiction either, I believe it is more of a lack of self-control or maybe even morals.) My marriage ended when my ex's behavior became very similar to that of the main character. In his very self-centered view, though, he didn't think of me or our children--it was about him and his needs. Nearly 4 years later, he is still like this--still searching for what he calls love. The more he gets, the more he needs, and the more hollow he feels inside when it is over. And when he feels hollow, well, he knows one way to make that feeling go away--by trying to find another woman to fill that void. It is a viscous cycle, and I do believe that couseling is required to help remedy it, but I think it is more an issue of self-worth than anything else. My ex and the main character have many similarities, the main one being that they both rely on others to make them feel. They have never learned to be happy with themselves, so they are waiting for someone to come along and give them that feeling.

As DJE's character said in the beginning of the movie, "chasing the thrill of the first encounter." I think that statement holds true for most 'love/sex addicts', because the beginning of most relationships are blissful, and so, they are chasing the bliss...

With all of that said, hoping it wasn't too much, I did not like the movie. I try to understand my ex's actions, because we are tied together by two amazing boys, but I will never condone these actions. I find it thoroughly disgusting to know that someone could act with such desregard to those that they love. However, I have learned that we all have different interpretations love. This character, and my ex, were both 'taught' (though, not in the same circumstances) by people that were suppose to love them, that it is acceptable to act selfishly with the people you love. So, even though I don't agree with the behavior, I can understand how after being 'taught' that by someone that loved you, you inturn could act that way towards someone you love. Children learn by example, and I just pray that God helps me set a better one for my children.

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[> [> [> [> [> interesting comment - thank you for sharing. I never gave it any thought but I can see where like any addiction someone could use sex the same as others use drinking or gambling - We can attribute any of it to lack of self control or we can call it a disease. I'm a strong willed person so I consider it lack of self control- but regardless - the truth is that with any Vice- the thrill always comes before loved ones - that's true of gamblers who lose their homes, alcoholics who embarrass their families and sex addicts who sleep their spouse's friends. -- chris k - the movie certainly made it's point and DJE played his part very well- he was totally believable., 12:53:52 04/21/08 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> Just want to make it clear. I'm not defending the behavior. However, since reading accounts from the author of this story, I have a different view of the main character in the movie. In general, women who are almost predetorial when it comes to another womans husband arent necessarily my cup of tea.(To put it nicely) But I thought the point was, that Sue didnt want to be that person anymore. -- mkim, 16:12:53 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> I think that the point should have been about Sue getting better. Unfortunately, the movie seemed to be more about her 'fall' than her 'rise'. I really wish that the movie would have focused more on her recovery process and how she has been doing since then. (Though, I did not mind the scenes with a half-naked DJE...) -- Erk, 16:27:08 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> Inside.... -- Trish, 16:30:19 04/20/08 Sun [1]

I have been a member of a forum for sexual assault/child sexual assault survivors for a couple of years. I have NEVER heard any of these people women and men EVER talk about it causing them to become sexual addicts. There are 100's registered to the forum.There is one person who is in her 80' who never got married and never had sex EVER after the abuse stopped.
Like I said, I'm not discounting what the author is alledging is/was her problem. I dont have a problem with someone saying they are addicted to sex because they have a craving and are horny all the time etc. I do,however, have a problem with someone blaming said addiction on child sexual abuse.

So since I didnt watch the entire movie I cant speculate on it to that extent I guess. To me though (only my opinion) she was using the abuse as an excuse for her VERY bad behavior in hurting others.

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[> [> [> What bothers me is they took an adulterer and turned her into a victim. By labeling herself with a sexual addiction, it's giving her an excuse to cheat on her husband. If she is that horny, find a good BOB! Cec knows a really good BOB Shop. LOL -- judi, 16:33:30 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> It's funny, I didnt see her as a victim, I saw her as someone who literally destroyed her life. I think abuse can manifest itself alot of ways, I think she definitely had a choice as to the way she reacted to that abuse, no doubt. -- mkim, 16:57:45 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> On the lighter side: You know, I found myself thinking when her husband was gripping about the house not being clean, Dang! Hire a housecleaner then your post mentioned a BOB shop. So then, a new philosophy...Hire a maid, find a good BOB! -- mkim, 17:01:32 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> From what i've read it is a shame they didnt spend as much time on her healing process as they did on the sexual deviant part. -- Trish..who cant see DJE as being sexy at all in this movie. He looked good for his age though., 17:18:26 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> I'm not sure I can verbalize my thoughts on the movie. I'm willing to believe in sex addiction as a mental state, and I liked seeing the hunk we know as DJE, but I have other problems with the movie...inside 'cause I'm going to be over... -- fananicfan, 15:35:12 04/20/08 Sun [1]

I did check out the DJE site and some of the author's answers to me contridict the movie I saw. For instance she said she was exclusive to Rick for a year, but it didn't look that way in the movie. Given her husband's attitude toward her at the anniversary party alone, I could see where she might want to loose herself for an hour or two a week in the arms of another, given her mistaken sense of 'sex=love' a young child might get from sexual abuse by her father at such a young age, but the French mumble mouth guy seemed to be while she was 'involved' with Rick. When she met the wife of French guy's wife, she went to a bar to get her fix. At least I think we're suppose to believe that she picked up that guy though it was hard to believe given the more detailed encounters we'd seen prior to this.

I have to acknowledge that the story dragged or got confusing in a couple of places and my mind would roam to the thought, like others have mentioned here, what a much hotter scene it would have been if it were H/M having a little weekend get away or afternoon delight instead.

I also agree with someone who wondered why DJE took the role. At least in recent projects, he hasn't taken such a blantantly sexual role. I think he did a good job with the character, and I certainly didn't mind the eye candy, but I wouldn't rank it among his better work.

The Man Who Lost Himself being one of those movies I could watch again and again. I never found myself thinking of JAG while I was while that movie was on. Love sick was not one of those movies.

I think those who thought it was the movie premise itself could be right, too. If given a little more time, a third hour or a two part story, to give us a better scope of the progression of her addiction, it may have been better, or perhaps a recounting of the book using flashbacks to tell the story may have worked better. I don't know, but it lacked something.

To sum it up I had my thought as the credits started to role at the end: DJE is a fine looking specimen of a man.

And the movie left me feeling that the story wasn't complete. We got to see the sex, but where is she now in life. ie: did she and her husband divorce, go to therapy, etc?

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[> [> Those were my thoughts exactly, at the end of the movie, fananicfan. -- mkim, 16:26:48 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> Well, ladies, I've read all the comments and I'll throw in my own. To begin with, Sue did have a divorce and Rick lost his family, too. Sue Silverman answered a number of your questions at the DJE Board and quite well, IMVHO. I liked that DJE took the role. This was not stupid as TSII.. He played a character with an addiction also and Rick has not changed. Some of you are condemning SS for her addiction. No, not all abused women go this route, but SHE did, (inside) -- jenks, 17:16:15 04/20/08 Sun [1]

so who are we to judge her. DJE has to branch out and obviously it won't be with CB at this time. This is something WE have to accept. What I think is interesting is that CB did a Sci-fi, which DJE is going to do. She did Still Small Voices, he did this movie and CB is now in a series. Might this be the route DJE is trying to take? I'm glad to see him act, since it's been mighty dry since JAG. I think we need to give him credit for any role he plays and stop taking the topic apart. Now throw the bananas at me LOL, but I just had to voice my opinion.

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[> [> [> I'm not condeming her. I just dont feel that child abuse Shutting up now. I dont know the lady so I'm not going to speak on it anymore. -- Trish...do we excuse pedophiles for molesting just because they were molested too?, 17:24:18 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> I didn't mean to sound critical of his choice. I'm just curious about it....inside I never can talk in under 600 letters. -- fananicfan, 17:58:01 04/20/08 Sun [1]

I heard an actress in an interview once say that the script she read was one thing, but after the changes to the script during production her character was different. She said she wouldn't have done the role if she'd have known that her character was going to be shown to be like that.

I wonder if something like that happened to him or maybe he read the script and said, this is the role where I can show Hollywood age is just a number and I'm still hot.

He can pick any project he wants to do. I watched this one and I'm sure if its available in my area, I'll watch the next one.

I wasn't trying to be judgemental or say he could only act with CB or anything. I'm just curious as to why he chose this part.

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[> [> [> [> This may make it clearer. DJE usually picks roles that are three dimensional and require him to use a range of emotions. This character did not do that and that's the reason why I wonder about his choice. -- fananicfan, 18:12:03 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> Not agreeing or disagreeing with comments made about the movie, but isn't it important to his career that DJE vary the types of roles he plays so he does not become sterotyped? We all loved Harm and Jimmy, but now DJE has to move on with his career and some of the characters he plays may not be the type of person we like, but as long as he protrays the character well, he's been successful. Just my opinion. -- ED, 18:23:13 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> I agree with you, which I will post my opinion later. I was glad to see DJE in something like this. He usually does the same type of roles and this was an usual one for him, one that I am glad he took. -- HarmMacLove, 22:40:45 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> I wasn't trying to say he shouldn't have taken the role. I just wonder why he did. I'll give myself one last time to get my thoughts out there clearly....inside -- fananicfan, 01:18:20 04/21/08 Mon [1]

He usually takes on more family friendly roles or at least roles that are more multi layered. Not saying he shouldn't balance his career or do whatever he just plain feels like doing. I don't think any less of him for taking the part, but if I had the chance to interview him someday I'd pose the question to him, "Why did you take the role of Rick in Love Sick," out of my own personal curiousity.

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[> [> [> JMO, but DJE probably saw the role as a challenge. He is great in the Harm and the Jimmy style role, both wonderful three dimensional emotional characters, h/e this part was more one dimensional with a display of unhealthy emotions. In lots of ways that is the more difficult role to play. I love to see him in the family friendly roles, but he flexed his acting muscles a little bit (and his real muscles alot thank goodness). It was interesting to see. Looking forward to his next part which sounds like a return to the three dimensional good guy. Can't wait! -- Dani R, 16:46:52 04/21/08 Mon [1]

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[> [> I can't imagine that playing in a C grade movie on a flakey channel is going to do DJE's career any good at all. He was in a 10 yr series, and surely he doesn't need the money. I wish he'd get serious with his acting, and look for quality work. This is going to push him down, imo. -- Cece, 18:57:04 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> I haven't seen all of the movie- but I've seen parts, read the comments, read part of the book and so I have a bit of a feel for the story and the characters. And I just have to say that I've known so many 'nice' people who acted exactly this way to their own detriment-- not to mention those around them. One woman I know even reminds me physically of S Pressman-- an attractive woman who was attracted to attractive men and that's who she acted out with. -- INSIDE -- manette, 17:35:32 04/20/08 Sun [1]

And the way they looked didn't glamourize anything. Believe me--when you are watching this happen those people don't seem so good looking anymore. Because when someone's life is out of control they are unattractive, unglamourous, selfish, and self destructive.

It seems to me that the story is about getting help-- not about making excuses for behavior. Yes, she was a victim of child abuse--but I don't think she considers that to be an excuse for the things she did or the people she hurt--But without coming to terms with what happened to her as a child-- and all the way up until she left home for college-- with her mother's knowlege, btw, she was never going to get a handle on her life. You don't go from being a child with no control to a grown-up with control just because you turn 18 and leave home.

She was a woman looking to fill a void in all the wrong ways, and obviously she went about it in a way that society condemns-- committing adultery. I am just like everyone else-- I have no sympathy for adulterers. The wives she hurt have every right to hate her guts. If she'd cheated with my husband I'd hate her and my husband, too. But I don't think she was asking for my sympathy in telling the story for this movie.

And I don't really think it had anything to do with being horny, either. It was an emotional void, not a physical one, and of course that's why no matter how many men she slept with the feeling of emptiness wasn't going to go away. It wasn't about sex, so it couldn't be solved with sex.

The bottom line is that she got help--after hurting lots of people along the way, and I got the feeling that she takes responsibility for that. Maybe when I see the whole thing I'll feel differently, but I'm not the only one who has shared an opinion without seeing the whole thing so that doesn't seem to be a prerequisite for jumping into the discussion.

Anyway-- I am going to go against the tide and say that I don't see it as being exploitive of DJE of SP, and I'm not disappointed by their choice of roles. DJE is a very sexy man-- But I didn't find him sexy in this because of how well he played the part--- like a great looking guy who suddenly becomes sleazy when you peel back the corner of his brain. I think he did a wonderful job in the clips I've seen, and I hope I get a chance to see the whole thing sometime.

And of course I'm also capable of looking at the pictures out of context and seeing shirtless CLOSETOHARM and saying Holy Cow--look at that man! Thanks again, Hope!

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[> [> Very well stated, manette. I agree with your take on the whole situation. -- Lee, 21:23:39 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> Okay, manette's reasoning always makes me feel like a rabid hothead shooting from the lip. First, the concept of the story. I won't comment further until I've seen it. Second, the quality of the filming, acting, story arc, I got from other people who did see it and weren't impressed. So again, I'll wait till I see it myself. As for good looking people looking sexy in such situations, they SO don't to me. But my personal distate is hardly evidential proof on which to base a judgement. -- Cece...who is getting too good at waiving goodbye...lol, 21:29:09 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> LOL....my Captcha letters just now were Y DUH! -- Cece..I guess that told ME!, 21:30:14 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> [> I also agree with Manette’s take. I saw the movie and found it very interesting. I haven’t read the book but I read some excerpts and Sue Silverman’s comments on the For DJE Fans board. More inside…. -- SeaBeth, 22:34:54 04/20/08 Sun [1]

She said that one of things she hoped people get out of her story is seeing that there is help out there, that people don’t have to stay mired in their addiction. She also said that it wasn’t about the sex; she just used that, like drugs, to numb the pain she was feeling. It was more about having power and being in control.

I agree with others that it would have been good to see more of the up side, the getting better part in order to give you a look at the whole picture, not just part of it. I think it is just very difficult to fit everything you would like to in a movie like this.

I am also not worried about this hurting DJE’s career. If this was the only thing he had done in a while, then maybe. But since JAG he’s done The Man Who Lost Himself, Close to Home, an episode of Medium, Love Sick, The Guard, and 2 movies to boot, not to mention the new mini-series. I think for this business he is doing quite well.

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[> [> I only saw bits and pieces. From what I saw I thought the movie turned out much better than what I expected & clearly since DJE has just been given the lead in a 4 hr 13million $ mini series- it hasn't hurt his career. The truth is- it's probably helped his career because the whole point of acting is to be able to portray ANYTHING & WELL. He's done that. He's played good guys, heroic guys, suffering guys (TMWLH) & now a sleazy hunk -& yes that man looked so good. He needs people to see him as something other than a lawyer in a business suit or uniform - this did that. -- chris k -Not to mention he probably enjoyed the challenge of playing a different type of character - certianly a new layer of onion to peel., 00:01:00 04/21/08 Mon [1]

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[> [> manette, you make a very good point that you saw the 'sleaziness' through his good looks and sexiness and THAT means he did his job, as an actor, very well. That makes me feel a bit better about being first bummed out about him taking such an 'uncharactertistic-for-him' role. inside -- mj, 04:04:41 04/21/08 Mon [1]

As an actor, he must break out of his own box in order to grow professionally and practice his craft. I think the fact that he was so successful for 10 years in a series (quite a coup for any actor) gives him the freedom -- both financially and artistically -- to take risks. So, even though, I was initially disappointed, hey, who the heck am I? A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do? And if the role called for a tall, dark, and handsome, desirable guy -- who better to cast than him? Just because his fanbase isn't used to seeing him as a 'sleaze' doesn't mean he's uncapable of playing one. Again, I say, the fact that you clearly saw him as a sleaze tells me his acting was right on! Wish I was able to see the movie -- with my track record, I'll probably see it in 2020.

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[> [> [> I just 'watched' the clips that the fordjefans website offered and I must say, he was actually cast quite well for the part he portrayed and he did a great job That is, despite his looks and sex appeal and body and physicality --- he was 'ewwwww' -- creepy!. inside -- mj, 10:34:54 04/21/08 Mon [1]

He portrayed the proverbial 'bad boy' that we all are drawn to during our adolescence or stages of immaturity. The point of this story (sadly a true one) is that it IS immature and debilitating to stay 'locked' in the trap of still being drawn to that which is dangerous, debilitating, wrong, unbalanced, selfish, self-destructive, perhaps even demonic, no matter why, actually. Because of Sue S's child abuse, she had a trauma that set her off quite easily into that need and world, but, really, it could happen to anyone who, for some reason, is weak or unhappy or looking for 'love'. It's rather pathetic and boring, actually, as one gets older and supposedly 'wiser' to still want a life like that. Indeed, he really made the part that much more 'real'. If another type of actor had played the role (say, a Woody Allen type), we wouldn't have taken her 'addiction', her 'problem' and her downward spiral as seriously. Rick had to be devastatingly handsome, sexy, alluring, mysterious, dangerous, brooding, heartless, sleazy, and creepy. HAE was a good choice for the physical part and he played the (un)emotion very very well. Good on him!

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[> [> [> [> the frightening thing was at the end of the movie they had some information - it claimed ONE in FOUR girls would be molested by the age of 18. - Not good odds. -- chris k, 12:49:24 04/21/08 Mon [1]

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[> Inside.... -- Trish, 17:46:41 04/20/08 Sun [1]

Maybe if i had read the book I would have felt differently. Often the book reads different then how something plays out on screen. I shouldnt have jumped into the discussion since I didnt watch the whole movie. I was commenting on what my perceptions of the premise of the movie were.
Besides my opinions are probably a little scewed anyway.
I hope the people who were hurt by "Sues" behavior also made money from her sad story.

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[> Thanks for the brilliant screen caps Hope. David lookd better than ever. Hope ot's not long before it crosses the pond,? -- Michelle UK, 18:31:27 04/20/08 Sun [1]

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[> Inside... -- HarmMacLove, 23:04:29 04/20/08 Sun [1]

I'm going to give my opinions now that I have watched the whole thing and as I am typing, watching/listening to it again.

First, I just want to say I liked the movie. It wasn't the best movie I have watched but I liked it. It went against my morals (adultery, lying, etc.) but I had to give it a chance, if only because DJE was in it.

Second, many of you think DJE should not have taken this role, which is your right, but I don't agree. I think he should have taken this role. He never plays this kind of role and he probably won't ever again but whether or not you liked it, it's done.

Third. I don't agree with adultery, but I have seen it happen so many times. I may have a different outlook on it then some people. I lived in a small town, still live in a small town, where it seemed like everyone was doing it. Of course everyone wasn't but when it happened everyone knew. Many teachers and people of authority did it so I was/am just used to it happening so this part of the movie I just brushed off. I am not married so I wouldn't know how I would feel if this was my husband, but I don't think I would tolerate it at all, there is no excuse for breaking up a family or a marriage. The way I see it is if you are even considering it, shouldn't that tell you something? Like maybe things aren't as they should be.

I don't know if I believe in sexual addictions or not. I guess it could be possible. I mean wouldn't this be the same as a pornography addiction? It could be the lack of self control but whatever it is, one should seek help if that's the case.

I have known some people who have been abused sexually who when they get older act out sexually. It depends on the person and how they handle it. Some don't do anything after something like that happens. I don't excuse what she did, even if she was sexually abused by her father, but that is how she handled it.

I think the movie could have shown her recovery more but it did some. She went to the clinic and talked to the therapist before she went.

She realized in the beginning of the movie that she had a problem but I don't think she was ready to change.

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[> mkim, what a great discussion and I'm still laughing about how you opened up this whole line of comments -- 'I may hate myself in the morning' -- LOL -- but, seriously, having this all brought out was good, especially for those of us unable to see the actual performance in context of the movie. The clips and this discussion really gave me a much 'truer' perspective of HAE's role and portrayal. It was GREAT! (even though the character was dastardly) -- mj(who pictured you fanning yourself after his scenes!!! and the end of movie!!!), 17:17:13 04/21/08 Mon [1]

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[> [> Glad you enjoyed the discussion and our dear Hope made it that much better by contributing the pictures. The very sight of DJE always seems to bring us out of ourselves...in or out of uniform. LOL!! -- mkim Always love reading your contributions,mj., 18:55:47 04/21/08 Mon [1]

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