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Subject: More Titles?

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Date Posted: 13:29:12 02/07/17 Tue
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We have a total of 8 open/sweeper titles. But why do we not have more when locals don't send reps? Thurston, East King County, Moses Lake. If they aren't sending shouldn't we add them to the open? I mean more girls competing would encourage better competition and higher placing at Miss America, in my opinion.

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[> Subject: Re: More Titles?

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Date Posted: 14:11:22 02/07/17 Tue
Author Host/IP: 154.sub-70-199-146.myvzw.com/70.199.146.154

>We have a total of 8 open/sweeper titles. But why do
>we not have more when locals don't send reps?
>Thurston, East King County, Moses Lake. If they aren't
>sending shouldn't we add them to the open? I mean more
>girls competing would encourage better competition and
>higher placing at Miss America, in my opinion.

I was just thinking the same thing!!! I came on here to ask about it. It would make sense to just add the title to sweeper and if the original programs want to back their representative they can. If they still want to put a board together, why not allow them too? You don't want to have areas that aren't being represented.

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[> [> Subject: Re: More Titles?

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MAO Rules for Crowning/Judging
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Date Posted: 19:37:01 02/07/17 Tue
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There are only 6 open/sweeper titles this year, not 8:
1.) Columbia Basin
2.) Eastside
3.) Rainier
4.) Tahoma
5.) Northwest
6.) Liberty

MAO judging rules state you can only give away 1 crown per every 4 competitors. Therefore in order to give away 3 crowns at each, they need to have a minimum of 12 girls competing.

MAO judging rules also state that you cannot crown more than 3 titleholders during a pageant. If you crown more than 3, you will need to have separate judging panels. That is why, a few years ago, when the sweeper pageant crowned 4+ girls, they were divided into 2 groups and each group had a separate judging panel.

Being that the sweeper and open are held on the same day, back to back, I can understand the difficulty of finding/organizing/running 4 panels of judges (2 per show). This would also mean running 2 judging panels for interviews simultaneously, back to back, the day before.
If you have ever run a pageant, you will know the difficulty of finding/organizing/running one panel of judges.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: More Titles?

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Date Posted: 19:53:25 02/07/17 Tue
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There is a total of 8 open titles, you forgot to mention the two that have already happened. Apple Valley and Emerald City.
I don't think they say the titles need to specifically handed out at the open or sweeper, but possibly another local that has enough girls competing. Miss Tri cities has had at least 8 girls the last two years.
I agree that more titles would be a good idea. More chance for scholarships and a better change at placing high at Miss America. Maybe the women running should encourage smaller locals with more young people running them...

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WA Open Rules
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Date Posted: 20:19:04 02/07/17 Tue
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The rule that Washington placed for open titles is that there are two open pageants (not counting sweeper). They may be held as the first pageant of the year and the last pageant of the year.
Tri-Cities is the exception to this because of their primary sponsor.
That is why Yakima moved to August, to be the first local (not counting Tri-Cities) and the Open is held just before the Sweeper pageant.
This year - and I'm not sure why or if it was over looked - the Seattle pageant had the one open title. Not sure if the MWSO is going to change their ruling for open pageants or if there was an exception for Emerald City - or if it was simply over looked.

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Author: Miss WA Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:48:22 02/07/17 Tue Author Host/IP: NoHost/107.77.97.22 They sure seem pretty lax on it this year. Since West Sound was before Yakima this year and with the addition of Emerald City. Maybe they will be changing this rule. I personally think it's a good idea. The more opportunities for the girls, the better! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Thurston and EKC

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Date Posted: 23:09:09 02/07/17 Tue
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>We have a total of 8 open/sweeper titles. But why do
>we not have more when locals don't send reps?
>Thurston, East King County, Moses Lake. If they aren't
>sending shouldn't we add them to the open? I mean more
>girls competing would encourage better competition and
>higher placing at Miss America, in my opinion.

Does anyone know why Thurston and East King County are not sending reps? And why does Kuinn still represent Thurston? I also agree there should be more open titles. Most states have a lot more opens than closed so that the best contestants can be sent. Some places, like county pageants, make sense to stay in their area. But the ones that are not associated with a location could be cool if open. Like West Sound could be for Western WA residents, East Cascades for east, maybe bring back Miss Evergreen from 2013. Just some ideas.
More opens means more opportunities for contestants to compete for Miss WA.

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[> Subject: Re: More Titles? Thurston County

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Date Posted: 18:04:17 02/19/17 Sun
Author Host/IP: 66-87-139-127.pools.spcsdns.net/66.87.139.127

>We have a total of 8 open/sweeper titles. But why do
>we not have more when locals don't send reps?
>Thurston, East King County, Moses Lake. If they aren't
>sending shouldn't we add them to the open? I mean more
>girls competing would encourage better competition and
>higher placing at Miss America, in my opinion.

Miss Thurston County Kuinn Karaffa can as per MAO rules has to either finished her contract Year. ( Which ends at the end of March) or hold the title till the next Miss Thurston Pageant and not compete in Miss Washington or Open/Sweeper. Kuinn's wonderful reign ends in March or if she chooses to she can extend her reign and in turn not compete. And Yes,
there should be more open titles so more young can compete

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