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Subject: First Runner-Up Hall of Fame: Charter Members
Author: Wayne [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:18:16 06/01/09 Mon Founder’s Note: I’ve been overwhelmed by the enthusiasm posters have shown for this newly-established Hall of Fame. I’m still scouting locations in Hoopeston, Illinois but, in the meantime, here are the charter members of TFRUHOF: Patron Saint: Alice Emerick, Miss Texas 1937, 1RU to Miss America, Bette Cooper. Without the shame Alice suffered because there were no first runner-up rules in place, there would be no “in case Miss Thing is unable to fulfill her duties, the first runner-up will take her place.” Without those rules, no Hall of Fame! First Runner-Ups Who Got To Take the Crown: 1.Suzette Charles, Miss America 1948, successor to Vanessa Williams, who was detroned; 2. Charlotte Sheffield, Miss USA 1957, successor to Leona Gage, who was disqualified. Group Award: Miss USA’s who were First Runner-up Miss Universe. Each of these contestants has their vociferous fans: Myrna Hansen, Debby Shelton, Amanda Jones, Judie Anderson, Julie Hayek, Christie Fichtner, Carole Gist, Shandi Finnessey. The “I Wasn’t Supposed To Be Here” Award, given to first runner-ups who got to go to the main show after the original winner decided not to go: 1.Luz Marina Zuluaga, Miss Universe 1958 (originally 1 RU to Miss Columbia); 2. Charlene Dallas, 1RU to Miss America 1967 (originally 1 RU to Miss CA); 3. Helen Salas, 4RU to Miss USA 2007 (originally 1RU to Miss Nevada) The Best Top Two Ever (MAO Division): Virginia Cha, Miss Maryland 1989, 1RU to Debbye Turner. The “Wait, she already congratulated me for winning” Award, given to 1RU’s who were congratulated for winning – mistakenly - by the eventual winner: Kathy Baumann, Miss Ohio, 1RU to Pamela Eldred, Miss America 1970; Catherine Lemkau, Miss Iowa, 1RU to Leanza Cornett, Miss America 1993. First Runner-Up to God’s Representatives. These contestants avoided death by becoming first runner-up to God’s chosen ones: Constance Dorn, 1RU to God’s Chatterbox, Terry Meeuwsen; Tana Kay Carli, 1RU to God’s Miracle Cure, Cheryl Prewitt; Cullen Johnson, 1RU to God’s Winged Angel, Heather Whitestone. WTF Award – Audience Reaction Division: Jessica Collins, Miss New York, 1RU to Mindy Duncan, Miss Teen USA 1988; Maya Walker, Miss Colorado, 1RU to Gretchen Carlson, Miss America 1989. WTF Award – Contestant Reaction Division: Sandra Truitt, Miss Illinois, 1RU to Elizabeth Ward, Miss America 1982; Suzette Charles, Miss New Jersey, 1RU to Vanessa Williams, Miss America 1983; Nicole O’Brien, Miss Texas, 1RU to Jillian Parry, Miss Teen USA 1990. Geographic Division: Countries and States who have provided four 1 RU’s but either no win or only one win for their geographic region. This award is given both to the region and to the runner-ups: (1) Louisiana MAO, Four 1RU’s but no winner: Patricia Brandt, Erika Schwarz, Faith Jenkins; Jennifer Dupont; (2) Columbia Universe, Four 1RU’s and only one winner: Paola Turbay, Paula Betancourt, Carolina Gomez, Taliana Vargas; (3) North Carolina MAO, Four 1RU’s and only one winner: Constance Dorn, Susan Lawrence, Michelle Warren, Kelly Bradshaw. The “Can’t Stop the Texas Steamroller” Award, given to those five ladies who were first runner-up to the 1980's Texas Quintet: Brenda Denton (the only New Mexico Sash Factor Victim in pageant history), Halle Berry, Chloe Carbrera, Diana Magana, Jill Sheffert. The “One 1RU, Two Faces” Award to Cullen Johnson, Miss Virginia, 1 RU to Heather Whitestone, Miss America 1995, who after graciously congratulating Heather turned around and whined that MAO’s desire for a handicapped winner was the only reason she was 1RU. The Only 1RU Oscar Winner: Halle Berry, Miss Ohio, 1RU to Miss USA 1986. The Only 1RU To Have Body Parts Renamed for her: Leah Laviano, 1RU to Miss USA 2008, and possessor of the "The Lavianos." Fan Favorites. They are here because they hold a special place in some fans’ hearts. And without the pageant fan, where would pageants – and first runner-ups – be? 1. Claudia Moreno, Miss Venezuela, 1RU to Miss Universe (a); 2. Miriam Quiambao, Miss Philippines, 1RU to Miss Universe, 1999 (b); 3. Lindsey Douglas, Miss Kansas, 1RU to Miss USA 2002; 4. Kelly Anderson, Miss West Virginia, 1RU to Miss USA 1984; 5. Shilah Phillips, Miss Texas, 1RU to Miss America 2007; 6. Jade Smalls, Miss Illinois, 1RU to Miss America 2000; 7. Ronica Riccardello, 1RU to Miss New Jersey MAO 2007. (a) Also winner of “The Sloppy Seconds Award” because she got to go to Universe because of PPP (Pissy Pageant Politics); (b) Also winner of “The Pick Yourself Up” Award, AKA “I’ve fallen and I did get up” Award because she fell during preliminaries but recovered beautifully. In addition she represented all women “who have fallen both on and off the stage.” [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What a creative and wonderful Post Wayne - you have raised the bar for the rest of us...... (NT) -- GMAN, 07:46:00 06/02/09 Tue I agree with GMAN, Wayne. And Meemaw, if this doesn't inspire you to write your (NT) -- MissMerlin, 08:19:34 06/02/09 Tue oops! Not sure what button I hit, but... as I was saying... if this doesn't inspire you to write your Miss USA review, I don't know what will! (NT) -- MissMerlin, 08:20:24 06/02/09 Tue Glad to see my Colombian queens inducted as Charter Members, Wayne. This was a VERY clever, entertaining post! (NT) -- Marylander, 09:25:26 06/02/09 Tue Exceptional post! I wish I could come up with something that creative (NT) -- Andres, 12:56:08 06/02/09 Tue Couldn't have done it without all of your participation and suggestions. For example, I didn't know Miss Universe 1958 wasn't supposed to be there! But now I'm already thinking about next year's class. Question: Is there a "WTF Award Audience Reaction Divison" nominee for Miss Universe or Miss USA, something that's equivalent to Jessica beating Mindy at Teen USA and Maya Walker losing to Gretchen Carlson at Miss America? (NT) -- Wayne, 19:19:02 06/02/09 Tue I meant "Mindy beating Jessica at Teen USA" obviously. (NT) -- Wayne, 19:21:23 06/02/09 Tue Wayne, when you say "audience reaction", does that mean what we as an audience think, or how the audience at the pageant reacted? (NT) -- Andres, 22:40:22 06/02/09 Tue "what we as an audience think" not how the audience on hand reacted. (NT) -- Wayne, 15:42:16 06/03/09 Wed audience reaction for USA,I tjhink there's alot. NM over TX in 85(I'm still furious over that one) (NT) -- Andres, 19:21:36 06/03/09 Wed Georgia MAO also has 4 1st RU's, including 2 in the last 4 years, but only one winner. Anybody know if any other state or country has finished 1st RU twice in the 2000's? (NT) -- georgian, 09:04:48 06/03/09 Wed California has had 3 runner-ups in USA, Venezuela has had 2 in Universe. (NT) -- :), 02:06:26 06/04/09 Thu ahhhh Erika Schwarz the only one Lousianan first runner-up that I think should have taken the crown from Tara Dawn. But you forget my most favorite first runner up of all time Versuka R. from Venezuela (NT) -- IHP, 09:51:43 06/03/09 Wed I nominate Shauna Pender - Florida MAO. She was 1st RU two or three years in a row and was 1st RU to Ericka Dunlap. Once Ericka was crowned Miss America, Shauna finally got her chance at Miss Florida, and she fully embraced it. Tragically, she was severely injured in a car accident on her way to a charity event that left her with injuries requiring months and years of rehab. http://www.shaunapender.org/index.html But, she's a fighter, and she was there to crown Miss Florida 2004, Jenna Edwards! (NT) -- Kristin ♥, 11:35:04 06/04/09 Thu

Subject: New Polling Site For MAO State Pageants: http://voy.com/220361/
Author: FUN for those that like to play that game! [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:23:57 06/04/09 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Whoo-hooo!!!! I've been denied my equal rights in California!our supreme court upheld prop 8. I feel so special.I'd like to thank the justices on the court for not allowing me my pursuit of happiness,and to make sure that I am not equal to straight people. Justices, you must be so proud of yourselves!
Author: Andres [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:25:07 05/26/09 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Oh, Andres I am so sorry. Maybe one day you will be able to marry. I can't believe these people some judges they are. (NT) -- IHP, 13:13:48 05/26/09 Tue Though I understand and agree on the legality of upholding Prop 8. I don't agree with Prop 8 from the beginning...I think Prop 8 in its self was dinscriminatory and shouldn't have been put on the ballot in the first place. (NT) -- Fannie Pack, 13:52:54 05/26/09 Tue Please explain Prop 8 to me as I am an ignorant Swede (NT) -- Elin., 14:10:50 05/26/09 Tue Proposition 8 rewrote the state constittuion of California to say that marriage is only legal between a man and a woman,meaning gays and lesbians cant marry. (NT) -- Andres, 14:25:32 05/26/09 Tue You forgot to mention Andres, that Prop 8 was in reaction to the Cal Supreme Court finding a law banning gay marriage was unconstitutional earlier that year. By passing Prop 8, California changed it's constitution to deprive certain Californians of a constitutional right. (NT) -- Brent, 17:28:22 05/26/09 Tue right! they saw it was unconstitutional,now that approve it. confusing! (NT) -- Andres, 18:13:45 05/26/09 Tue For the record, I condemn Prop 8 but that isn't what the judges were deliberating upon....it was whether voters had the right to amend their constitution...and they do so that is why they upheld Prop 8...just interpreting law as they should (NT) -- Me, 10:15:30 05/30/09 Sat that is correct. their hands were tied, which is how they described it, knowing full well what firestorm it was going to start.Yes, this arguement presented to the court was different than the one before that they struck down. Unfortunately 2010 is going to bring a very ugly battle to California. Both siades,for and against gay marriage are going to come out in full forces. It's not going to be pretty. (NT) -- Andres, 02:29:32 05/31/09 Sun Take heart in knowing that this too one day will pass and you will get the freedom and rights that you deserve and are entitiled to under the consititution! Also remember there is a reason WHY the constitution uses the word IMPEACH six times in the document. Let freedom ring or vote the representatives OUT!! (NT) -- XXXXXXX, 14:48:09 05/26/09 Tue I just emailed the Mods since this post isnt pageant related. Could you imagine hearing Meemaw give them a piece of her mind??ha! (NT) -- Andres, 14:58:37 05/26/09 Tue andres- this was my quote to the press... stay strong. "no matter what happened today, as our youth grows and gets the power to vote, hate props like these will be a thing of the past, I know I am on the right side of history and it is only a matter of time when our great country starts doing the right thing. Years ago woman couldn't vote, blacks and whites weren't free to marry peacefully and like those prejudices this to will one day change. equality will ring true for all. (NT) -- shannaxoxo, 14:57:05 05/26/09 Tue tell them Shanna! watch me end up in jail-I'm attending one of the protests tonight.So if I dont post tomorrow you all will know why-I'll be in the slammer (NT) -- Andres, 15:01:31 05/26/09 Tue This is one of the problems with California in the first place. They have this ridiculous "prop" system which sounds good in theory, but in reality is an invitation to chaos and the tyranny of the majority. We live in a republic not an Athenian Democracy and the system of governance should reflect that. But I am happy that at least the court did not vactate the 1000s of gay marriages that have already been performed. (NT) -- Virginia Hamm, 16:30:48 05/26/09 Tue Wow, I knew I did not like that state last week when I was there. Two earthquakes, expensive and not very good food, pulled a muscle in my back, and now this......I hope I will not be visiting the "Golden State" (huge misnomer) any time soon..... (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 17:27:33 05/26/09 Tue poor,NC! I wish I could have toured you around and taken you to good places to eat. you're right,though,it is an expensive city,you just have to kow where to find the cheap things to eat and see.(rent,however,is another thing. a one bedroom is available in my neighborhodd-wat a deal at $1,825 a month!) Did you manage to have any fun? (NT) -- Andres, 18:18:26 05/26/09 Tue WOW....more than my monthly payment on my15 yr mortgage on my house in NC......we did very little at night as my back was not good.....still having issues this week with it too....a chiropractor visit is in my near future it appears......I do hate that I did not get to see you last week..... (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 18:23:13 05/26/09 Tue thats ok, I understand. I just wish I could have shown you some of the fun and more affordable places to go(this is an expensive state) I just want you to get better. The Kathy Manning fan club needs you! (NT) -- Andres, 20:17:09 05/26/09 Tue Still having back issues one week later....when are you heading to the east coast???? (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 22:16:46 05/29/09 Fri I am trying to secure a business trip,NC. I will let you know if it happens. (NT) -- Andres, 02:33:30 05/31/09 Sun I am dissapointed in the state of California for even having the hate of putting Prop 8 on the ballot last November. I am 110% for marriage for EVERYONE, and I'm straight. Allow everyone to marry, no matter what the combination and then step aside. Stop ruling this nation/the states based on the bible. If you're bothered by same sex marriage...then don't marry someone who is he same sex as you are! (NT) -- John - Lives in WA, 21:00:30 05/26/09 Tue I couldn't agree more! I honestly can't understand the hatred that would motivate a group of people to invest the time and money required to campaign for and pass a ballot measure that bans gay marriage. I've been involved in grassroots campaigns on a completely unrelated issue, and we investigated the possibility of conducting a ballot measure in California. The costs are very prohibitive due to the excessive number of signatures required before it can be placed on the ballot for vote. I mean, really, get an F'n life. Spend your extra money helping starving orphans if you're so F'n loving and charitable. A$$HOLES! (NT) -- BamaMan, 05:50:22 05/27/09 Wed BamaMan, I appreciate your very good point about the $$ and energy put into this battle. There is some serious hatred of gay people out there when groups will spend billions of $$ to deny them the right to choose whom they LOVE. This is really all about LOVE. I get very frustrated because the very people who would point at gays and say "Look, you're promiscuous and not capable of monogamy," are the ones trying to keep us from marrying when we're BEGGING for the chance. Quite a double standard if you ask me. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 06:27:10 05/27/09 Wed Wanna talk money? How about $80 million? Yup, thats right,folks, $80 million is what the combined amount was the for and against sides spent during the prop 8 fiasco. Ridiculous! (NT) -- Andres, 17:18:08 05/27/09 Wed My Thoughts on this matter! (NT) -- LouisianaFan, 13:30:33 05/29/09 Fri Sorry hit enter instead of tab. -- LouisianaFan, 13:45:09 05/29/09 Fri Well said! Eventually. ;) (NT) -- MissMerlin, 14:11:30 05/29/09 Fri great thoughts LA Fan! and welcome back! (NT) -- gaj, 14:15:17 05/29/09 Fri Ah,yes,Louisiana fan, it's called hypocracy.I think He who is without sin cast the first stone is the most forgoten scripture in the Bible,yet one of the most important. (NT) -- Andres, 16:30:30 05/29/09 Fri Very well stated. (NT) -- Aida, 17:41:01 05/29/09 Fri Just 15 minutes ago I received a recorded phone call from Iowa senator Steve King, a Republican. (let me state that I reeeeaaally do not like this man, for many reasons). First I was asked if I was registered to vote in the state of Iowa and then I was asked if I supported the statement that marriage is between one man and one woman. As soon as I said no, the call ended with the announcement at the end that this call was supported by NOM. So I immediately got on Mr. King's website and I sent him, as Meemaw would say. "a strongly worded letter." I don't expect an answer from him but I'm sure he understands my feelings now. What an a$$!! The push is on in Iowa to get our constitution changed. Yet there are many cities here putting together ads to urge gay couples to come to Iowa to get married. I'm sure a fight is on the way here. (NT) -- Husker fan, 18:42:49 05/29/09 Fri Washington State just had the "Everything but marriage" law signed a couple of weeks ago and they are already talking about getting a proposition on one of the next ballots. I'd like to see a measure on the ballot to say "F the 'Everything but Marriage', give them the whole shabang!" (NT) -- John - Lives in WA, 18:48:55 05/29/09 Fri I hope MUO brings back the soundproof booth and ask the Top 5 the same question on "gay marriage". It will exciting to hear what a conservative country like Malaysia and a liberal country like Holland will respond. I just hope they don't get too emotional and claw one another on stage. (NT) -- AB, 10:42:11 05/30/09 Sat No matter which side of the fence you stand on - if one contestant was asked such a loaded question on stage - then they should have all had to. I am incensed each and every time this happens at a pageant where insanely ridiculous questions are asked followed by one that is sure to alienate a percentage of the audience and judges. That is only fair and it is too bad that all this anger was directed at one contestant. P. Hilton did NOTHING to help the cause. If anything - it made people on the fence pick a side and those already on either side dig their heels in to stay. I would hope gays and straights could agree on this. To achieve peace and understanding - attacks can not and should not be thrown, either way. (NT) -- My 2 cents - whatever that is worth these days. : ), 19:03:24 05/30/09 Sat DEAR ANDRE, Here is your official invitation to pack your bags and move to the great state of NH - The Gov just signed a bill into law allowing gay marriage starting on Jan.1st, 2010!!!! (NT) -- Judge Judy, 18:22:18 06/03/09 Wed That makes state #6! CA wont have it back to vote on until 2010. (NT) -- Andres, 19:00:17 06/03/09 Wed I do not understand why anyone would care if gay people want to marry. Granting gays the right to marry will have no effect on straight people. Everyone should live their own life. If you are living a life of purpose and striving to make yourself successful, you don't have time to get into the lives of other. Everybody should mind their own business and stay out of the personal lives of others. (NT) -- Straight white male southerner., 06:46:50 06/04/09 Thu A few things that people do and say it is in the name of their "RELIGION". 1) Deny rights to gays - Christian 2) Shoot an abortionist Doctor- Christian 3) Shoot soilders outside a recruting facility in Little Rock -Muslim. I think John Lennon was on the right track when he said "Imagine- and no religion too." What people do in the name of their God never ceases to amaze me. Why can't we just love one annother...live and let live. I have had my say. (NT) -- XXXXXXX, 07:37:36 06/04/09 Thu

Subject: Channeling your "inner pageant girl"
Author: Andres [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:58:07 06/03/09 Wed If you could be any titleholder,who would it be and why? I'll say Kethy Manning. Not only to have her hair, but to be able to walk out on a stage wearing a "supersuit" like she did at Miss America(looking totally hot)Of course I would want to wear that gorgeous black velvet gown she wore at USA 1987 with the plunging backline. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It depends on what year it is and what I'm feeling like. I could totally be Lacey Lybrand (SC USA 2006) on some days but Dayana Mendoza on others. And sometimes I just feel all Brooke Lee and want to eat everything in the world TWICE. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 20:31:21 06/03/09 Wed Jennifer Hawkins. I would love to do goofy things like have my swimsuit showing through my evening gown and still win, experience something even more humiliating than falling like losing my bloomers on the runway, and sail through my year effortlessly on my way to becoming the most popular Miss Universe in decades. And of course snuggling up to Jake Wall woudn't be bad either. (NT) -- Meemaw, 20:42:04 06/03/09 Wed Fascinating. I watched the pageant on youtube, and I can't see her swimsuit underneath her gown though?? (NT) -- Andres, 22:15:27 06/03/09 Wed Julie Hayek so I'd know I'd have one of the hottest bods. on the beach (click in for proof) and also to wear that gorgeous blue gown which was rented from Cher! (I've always been fascinated with her since she was crowned in Knoxville & it was the first pageant I attended.) -- TNBoy, 21:08:31 06/03/09 Wed TNBoy, is that picture photoshopped? When was it taken? You know I love me some Julie(who should have been Miss U 1983!) (NT) -- Andres, 21:50:01 06/03/09 Wed TNBoy, I only ask that because her body in that picture is INSANE! I mean, look at her--H O T (NT) -- Andres, 22:21:16 06/03/09 Wed I got it straight off her web site. Check it out if you've not been there. www.juliehayek.com (NT) -- TNBoy, 23:25:10 06/03/09 Wed Did Julie REALLY rent her gown from Cher, or is that just your wacky humor? (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 06:32:56 06/04/09 Thu Marjorie Wallace, The first American to be crowned Miss World. She was such a hot party girl who nabbed some of the hottest hunks in the 70's while simultaneously flipping off the Morley’s..... (NT) -- GMAN, 05:08:10 06/04/09 Thu Did Jennifer Hawkins really wear her swimsuit under her gown? (NT) -- The amazing things I learn on this board, 06:20:26 06/04/09 Thu

Subject: Miss Kansas Outstanding Teen 2009
Author: New2MAO [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:50:39 06/03/09 Wed Just got word from Megan Bushell, here is the new Miss Kansas Outstanding Teen for 2009: Chelsea Chilcott More details to come as I hear them... :) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That is Alexandra Miller's favorite Teen! Congratulations, and GO ALEX, YOU'RE NEXT!!! (NT) -- Meemaw, 01:07:05 06/03/09 Wed She looks more like a 12 year old pre-teen. (NT) -- AB, 11:22:05 06/03/09 Wed So true, but with the right make-up, she could look 13. (NT) -- ex-pat, 11:36:58 06/03/09 Wed It's an old picture of her. I heard Alexandra Miller was helping her, true? (NT) -- curious, 13:30:22 06/03/09 Wed Chelsea did the Our Diamond Miss Pageant ,haven't seen her in a while though she is 15 or 16, at that time she was a ventriloquist,don't know what she does now. (NT) -- Tex, 15:05:49 06/03/09 Wed Hi everyone - just poppin' on to give a shout to Merlin for keeping Alex "informed" last night and today (Merlin, we are jealous of your vacation destination...no fair) anyhoo, yes this is Chelsea Chilcott! She is an absolute DOLL. She did her ventriliquist (sp?) act and it was precious. I've really never seen anyone work as hard as Chelsea has these past several weeks and we are so proud and thrilled for her. We've had a great time helping her get ready and we are praying she'll have a good experience at MKOT. P.S. She's 16. We love you Chelsea and we can't wait to cheer you on at nationals :) (NT) -- Bloo, 22:29:30 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: 2009 Miss Tennessee contestants
Author: TNBoy [Edit]	Date Posted: 20:58:04 06/02/09 Tue Vote for your favorite at http://orig.jacksonsun.com/misstn2009/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Is it just me, or is City Lights channeling a little Crystle Stewart in that photo??? She's very pretty. (NT) -- Tumbleweed, 22:06:08 06/02/09 Tue THe thing I love about Miss America is the local title syustem..really. THere are ALWAYS a few titles worthy of comment....Miss Soybean Festival I understand......Please tell me Miss Country Music DOES require a country music talent performance. If so, does that mean Miss Walking Tall has the best stage strut? And, what does that say about Miss City Lights?? (NT) -- Tiki Java, 18:16:38 06/03/09 Wed LOL, Tiki! Actually Miss Country Music is just entitled that because it's held in Nashville. Miss Walking Tall is a title based on the life (and movie) of Tennessee sheriff Buford Pusser whom almost single-handily cleaned up his small town of crime and corruption, but at a personal cost of his family life and nearly his own life. And, I guess Miss City Lights just refers to the tourism in Tennessee: from city lights to country sights. (NT) -- TNBoy, 21:25:53 06/03/09 Wed They need a Miss Radiant Energy representing Oak Ridge! (NT) -- Meemaw, 21:36:11 06/03/09 Wed This is for TN MAO,right? Cordova is cute!(and I spy a possible Miss Hello Anybody Home nominee.....) (NT) -- Andres, 19:03:49 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: Miss Kansas blog
Author: TNBoy [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:01:14 06/02/09 Tue Follow Alex Miller's blog at the following link if you'd like to know what's happening in Pratt! http://alexandra-miller.blogspot.com/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Alex had her interview today! Waiting to hear how that went, but she seemed ready (we were texting current events back and forth last night and this morning). She is sooooooo excited that her "little" won OT!!!!! (NT) -- MissMerlin, 14:07:56 06/03/09 Wed bump for Alex's blog (NT) -- TNBoy, 21:28:16 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: NEW TOPIC - 2009 Pageant Season WTF???? Moment
Author: Hoochiebabe [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:11:57 05/20/09 Wed Meemaw has stated till we have more new topics on the board she will not post a review of Miss USA, and I like many others can not live without hearing her candid, comedic and classic opinions all the time so above is yet another new topic. My WTF moment of the 2009 Pageant season would have to be Miss Iowa and her advancement and eventual placement as 2nd RU at the Miss America Pageant. From the moment she was called to the top 15 my reaction was WTF??? All i could focus on was her bright purple obnoxious eyeshadow and very pronounced jaw and chin that had a Jay Lleno-esgue quality. Take a drink it will be okay, there is always 1 girl that somehow sneaks into the first cut. Then came swimsuit...GULP and another GULP- she was obviously the largest girl of the 15 and the most out of shape which was evident by the obvious jiggle in her wiggle. I was certain that she would quickly exit to the clapper section and yet she advances to the top 12. Excuse me bartender I need a shot and make it a double!!! She emerges in gown in what can only be described as a grey circus tent and to quote Suzanne Sugarbaker she must have bought the fabric from Georgia Tent & Awning. Yards and yards and more yards of 3 different colors of drab grey dull fabric. It gave her no shape and did not slim her already full figure. I have now finished off a double tall crown royal before she is done modeling this depressing frock. Without a doubt the WTF?? dress in what was otherwise a lovely evening gown competition. I thought to myself well even tho she may have miraculously survived swimsuit this is the end of the road. WRONG!! Screw shots and double tall drinks hand the bottle over NOW!! She advances to the top 10 and I will admit the girl can TAP. Yet she was not perfect, she fell out of several of her turns, and the double split at the end was poorly executed and she almost fell out of the shaky ending pose. Talent was by far her strongest area of competition but I did not think it made up for her utterly weak performances in SS and Gown. I really did not think there was anyway she could advance to the top 7 but she did! Bartender take the empty crown bottle that I have depleted and break it over my head...it would be less painful In her On stage Interview she gave a plain uneventful and bland yet competent response to the question on whether college should be free in a purple gown to match her repulsive eyeshadow with a hideous stand up collar with rainbow chandelier earrings. Ok so she can string together a sentence or two but this girl is not among the top 7 girls of the 52. Crown royal no longer is numbing the pain fork over the tequila bottle no lime or salt needed. As I was trying to decide how the rankings would fall all I was confident in was Miss Iowa was a distant 7th as in the Grand Canyon is not that wide. When they announced her as 2nd RU i went to scream WTF i forgot my mouth was full of alcohol that went spewing all over the bar and then I fell off my barstool and what was left of my drink landed on top of me on the floor. Not only had Miss Iowa ruined my entire Miss America viewing experience she made my physically react in a unbecoming way which left me upside down and with damp couture clothing. Anyhow that is my WTF moment of the 2009 pageant season, please all of you share yours it will be a cleansing release for your soul...I know i feel better now FYI the cleaners did save the frock that was drenched in whiskey!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What a very mean-spirited posting. (NT) -- ., 23:36:01 05/20/09 Wed Really? I thougth is was pretty fun.Just remember,alot of reveiws are meant to be toungue-in-cheek if you will. I don't think the poster meant to be mean. (NT) -- Andres, 12:31:35 05/21/09 Thu I can't believe you wasted that much time and effort trashing someone that was in a pageant like 6 months ago. (NT) -- daffodil, 23:48:45 05/20/09 Wed Just a reminder that everyone here is free to post their opinions, and those opinions don't always have to be positive. We have posted many critical comments about delegates from years past, and this is no different. The comments pertain to the pageant performance and are therefore considered acceptable for posting. (NT) -- Meemaw, 00:03:21 05/21/09 Thu My WTF moment came when Miss Oklahoma did not make the top 15 at the Miss America Final after being touted as a probable top 5 before the pageant. (NT) -- She was easily in the top 15 in my humble opinion., 05:42:51 05/21/09 Thu Oh well that's easy to figure out - we voted her the Face of Miss America. THAT'S why she didn't make top 15. (NT) -- MLOP, 07:03:05 05/21/09 Thu I agree we have some sort of jinx on the Face of Miss America winner, but in all fairness we voted Venezuela the Face of Miss Universe and she won the whole thing. All four runners-up in our Face of Miss America Top 5 made the cut, including the winner (OK, AR, IN, GA, TN). The same thing happened the year before - IL, MI, WA, VA, TX. The same thing happened with this year's Face of Miss USA (VT, UT, TN, NC, TX). So while we may have jinxed some of the winners, we still have an 80% success rate that our Top 5 will make the cut and 100% that one of them will be the eventual winner. (NT) -- Meemaw, 10:26:51 05/21/09 Thu I know, we were dead on for Universe. And last year Jackie was Top 10 - but for some reason, our Face of Miss America winner has been jinxed. Heh. I don't know if we jinxed the Face of Miss USA or not since we're 50/50 for that one. (NT) -- MLOP, 11:09:48 05/21/09 Thu If I had only known about the curse - I would not have voted for the gorgeous Kelsey Cartwright. Oh Oklahoma, my favorite! (NT) -- webby - the PacNW gal! Hey it took me years to come to terms with Maya Walker as 1st runner up, 17:30:34 05/21/09 Thu I had the opportunity to meet both Kelsey and Ashlen Batson (Miss AR) at Katie's homecoming back in March, and got to see both of them perform their talents at the show. Both of them are even prettier in person, and really, really funny girls and great speakers. And Kelsey's dance was amazing! So I'm still scratching my head over how Kelsey didn't make T15. Ashlen's talent was . . . um . . . well, did I say she was gorgeous?? It would be great to see her do USA. (NT) -- Hoosier Girl, 09:59:32 05/23/09 Sat Kelsey did not make top bc she cannot interview. OK knew that when they sent her in. (NT) -- fact of the matter, 14:18:17 05/31/09 Sun Then how on earth did she win a pageant powerhouse state like OK? And on her first try?? (NT) -- HG, 20:58:54 05/31/09 Sun We dont know (NT) -- but we did know it was going to be a problem, 09:25:08 06/01/09 Mon I believe the judges favored singers over dancers. Miss Oklahoma and Miss Massachusetts were victims of bad placement and their reality color teams were "anchors" .Either girl (and Miss Iowa) was more entertaining than Miss Vermont, a preliminary talent winner. The Final missed out on two beauties. : ( (NT) -- My WTF. I'm not a judge, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express, 06:40:57 05/29/09 Fri I have to agree with you. While she is clearly a smart, well spoken young woman I simply didn't feel that she measured up to the other finalists in the other phases of competition. This is why I like two panels- you know the top 10/15 all had good interviews and other phases but a new set of eyes weeds out the worst swimsuits, then gowns, then talents then you are left with the cream of the crop. Miss Iowa, who I'm sure is a lovely girl who will go on to do wonderful things, simply lacked the spark of the other girls in the 5 and many left standing. (NT) -- ;-), 08:47:14 05/21/09 Thu honestly, my wtf moment came when hawaii did not make the t15 at usa. (NT) -- tia, 09:07:12 05/21/09 Thu OP- while I think Miss Iowa is undeniably beautiful, I too, thought her styling was slightly off during finals. I would have loved to see her in a jewel toned dress and toned down or more muted makeup. (NT) -- phoebecar, 09:51:32 05/21/09 Thu i wish more girls were closer to her size in swimwear... the eyeshadow and orange self tanner were not an exception of any kind, but clearly miss iowa looked like she had a natural build to her body that would prevent her from being the size of katie stam or kirsten haglund. i would have liked to see more muscle definition, but i applaud her for her efforts and confidence in swimwear. (NT) -- liz lemon, 10:48:42 05/21/09 Thu I have two:Jackie(CA MAO) not making a RU at Miss America, and the girl from Miss Universe(DR?) who wore that gown that was nude material with all that broken looking glass all over it. It was both horrid and bizarre all at the same time. (NT) -- Andres, 12:38:11 05/21/09 Thu I know what you mean about that gown, Andres. It was like a car wreck; you couldn't look away. (NT) -- webby - the PacNW gal!, 22:37:00 05/21/09 Thu I liked Miss Iowa and thought she had the best on stage answer. I bet her interview was great. (NT) -- Sister, 12:38:18 05/21/09 Thu I did see her interview, and it was great. (I bought the DVD.) But her styling was bad there, too. I don't remember specific details (may need to dig it out and watch again), but I remember that she was wearing these chunky, matchy-matchy earrings, necklace, bracelet (and maybe even a ring??) that I found totally distracting. But I loved her tap number! And are we saying she looked chubby in SS? I don't remember thinking that at all. I do remember, though, that she wore gold platform sandals with her SS -- probably to add some height. (NT) -- Hoosier Girl, 13:41:52 05/21/09 Thu I totally agree with what the OP says-plus wish I could write that well-good job! (NT) -- Virginia Hamm, 16:28:52 05/21/09 Thu I had a similar experience of MISS IA advancing at Miss America, and I was equally repulsed by the continued advancement of KY at this year's USA and (don't hate me) MS at Miss USA 2008. Each time I was sure they would be last in the group, they'd be announced as advancing yet one more place. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 18:47:45 05/21/09 Thu Well thank you Virginia Hamm i appreciate the compliment... I know Miss Iowa is a wonderfully intelligent girl or she could not have made it to the Miss America stage but I just didnt see why she did as well as she did even though all the girls who even participate at the local level are very deserving!! (NT) -- Hoochiebabe, 22:00:37 05/21/09 Thu Advancement of TN and KY at MAO. (NT) -- Among many others at MAO this year., 23:44:26 05/21/09 Thu OK I completely agrees with KY but I respectfully disagree with your assessment of TN - I know she may not be Miss Congeniality but when Katie, Ellen and Jackie were the final 3 I really thought TN might pull off the upset of the century and OWN IT... stunning SS, fabulous gown and one of the best talents not to mention a striking face and bedroom eyes plus she exuded confidence and was SEXY and a lil bitchy which I find endearing and entertaining, I thought she shined all night during the final telecast!!! (NT) -- Hoochiebabe, 00:28:21 05/22/09 Fri Hoochiebabe: Miss Tennessee was my pre-pageant pick for Miss America. I still would have her as the winner. I just thought that her SS and talent and overall look were better than Indiana or especially Georgia. There were a few deserving girls I thought should have made 15-definitely Mississippi, Massachusetts, and maybe Connecticut. (NT) -- Virginia Hamm, 07:22:22 05/22/09 Fri I just found TN unattractive in addition to no personality. (NT) -- But I appreciate your opinion. Would not be interesting if we all agreed on everything., 22:15:00 05/26/09 Tue I didn't get Miss Iowa, either. I'm sure she's a perfectly nice girl, but 2nd RU at Miss America??? Miss Oklahoma's omission from the Top 15 at Miss America was certainly the WTF moment of recent memory for me. The judging panel should have been deported to Gitmo for that. (NT) -- BamaMan, 05:49:29 05/26/09 Tue I know many have mixed feelings (some liked her some didn't) but I was shocked Hawaii didn't advance to the top 15 at this year's Miss USA Pageant. (NT) -- KDK, 21:51:07 05/26/09 Tue I agree with the OP, but I also could not figure out how NY kept advancing, her swimsuit was ok, I know she won on her night, but she was the second worst on finals, her talent was God awful, and her evening gown looked like a crow slamed into her chest. It was an interview queen pageant. (NT) -- jmo, 09:11:53 06/02/09 Tue Was NY the singer(she wasn't the one with the frying pan,right?) Hmmm,interesting-I liked NY (NT) -- Andres, 12:58:23 06/02/09 Tue The frying pan was Florida (NT) -- homie, 13:32:23 06/02/09 Tue It's very interesting, because I liked NY more and more as the night wore on (despite the marginal talent). I bet she was dynamite in private interview, although I think her "quirky" personality might get old eventually. I loved the gown and thought her SS was amazing. She earned her placement, especially over the frying pan talent. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 20:35:13 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: Quick Question
Author: BreeZe [Edit]	Date Posted: 18:41:58 06/03/09 Wed Can someone post pictures/ideas/links to what a good outfit would be for rehearsals? (For a state USA pageant) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Since its rehersals, you'll want to wear the shoes you plan on wearing in opening number and such unless you've worn the shoes before and feel more comfortable learning choerography in sneakers or something. When I did state last year, some girls dressed to the nines, some were in sweats, others in jeans. Its completely up to you, but remember you are going to be sitting and moving around, so think smart. (NT) -- MLOP who was a jeans and sneakers girl, 19:22:43 06/03/09 Wed Layer. I'm surprised how hot and cold reharsals spaces can be (NT) -- Andres, 19:39:11 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: Alex Miller, I love you to death!!!! Knock 'em dead!!!!
Author: Amber Atkins [Edit]	Date Posted: 19:18:08 06/03/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Is there a state pageant you have never attended but wish you could go to sometime? I would love to go to Miss Mississippi MAO one year. To be in the place that brought us Kathy Manning and Susan Aiken--gives me the shivers!
Author: Andres [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:45:33 05/31/09 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Given the number and quality of contestants Britt has been able to attract, I really would like to attend Arizona USA! And believe me, I never thought I'd say that - when Connie was in charge, Arizona was the last pageant I would have wanted to attend! (NT) -- Meemaw, 00:51:17 06/01/09 Mon Meemaw, I would be very happy to host you here in Phoenix for Miss Arizona USA 2010 (NT) -- This is Karen Walker!, 21:47:25 06/01/09 Mon especially to go next year and see Utah and Arizona-hot ladies! (NT) -- Andres, 14:34:51 06/03/09 Wed I'd would love to attend the Miss Hawaii MAO Pageant, which is so rich with culture. I used to get the tapes each year and share with my friends. The girls were beautiful and all very sincere. Talent, not so strong, but wardrobe was incredible. And just the location, where its a win win situation. Anyone know when the pageant is this year? It used to be on a Friday. (NT) -- loved Miss Hawaii MAO., 08:36:20 06/01/09 Mon It would be worth it to go to Miss Mississippi MAO just to see the formers in attendance........ (NT) -- NC Pageant Fan, 10:00:03 06/01/09 Mon NC, I couldnt handle that. If I was in the same audience with Ms Manning they'd have to shoot with my a tranqualizer gun (NT) -- Andres, 12:08:24 06/01/09 Mon Over the years, I have been to NC, SC, VA, MD, TX, MI...and found the best to be NC(in the old days) and Texas. Besides Mississippi, Tennessee seems to have the best production numbers and the degree of old fashioned pageantry that I enjoy so that would be my second choice. (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 13:40:35 06/01/09 Mon Tell them how many times you watched that one Miss Tennessee tape, the one where Glady's Knights music was spotlighted. Bet you have worn that tape down to the NUB! Was that Stephanie Culberson's year? Lead singer was snatched by some local ED and was crowned Miss Tennessee the next year. Tennessee has the BEST productions eva! I saw it in real life and even sitting in the furtherest seat in the balconey, thorougly enjoyed myself! (NT) -- NC Pageant Fan's best friend in Maryland, 21:45:34 06/01/09 Mon I am actually on my second copy of this tape...... (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 15:09:23 06/02/09 Tue I KNEW it!! (NT) -- LOL!, 22:49:36 06/02/09 Tue I'd go to the CA USA pageant just to watch the drama (if any). (NT) -- Oliclerk, 10:15:28 06/01/09 Mon oliclerk, I'll be there this year again,giving live updates,just like I did last year (NT) -- Andres, 15:12:32 06/01/09 Mon Yah! Totally can't wait. Thanks so much. When is it? (NT) -- Oliclerk, 22:25:18 06/01/09 Mon Oct 21 I believe. It was a riot last year. Thank goodness I had TNBoy to text and MLOP was posting results as well. I managed to get my laptop hooked up.Pageant chat was open that day so i kept running out of the ballroom to post results as they were happening. The reaction by some folks in chat were priceles,especially when Tami kept advancing. (NT) -- Andres, 13:01:37 06/02/09 Tue I would love to have the time and money to go to everyone of them at some point. Obviously you couldn't go to all in the same year. But compare Mississippi with Montana, New Hampshire with Oklahoma, etc. would be fascinating. Of course my tolerance for cheesy production numbers would have to be raised but, with the right spirit (and perhaps a glass of wine beforehand), it could be fun. (NT) -- Wayne, 10:18:22 06/01/09 Mon I would love to do the same thing Wayne! I'm wondering if I can get some sort of trade-off with my fiance- every summer we go to a different state pageant and a different ballpark? lol. The only state pageant I've been to is MI, so really I would love to see any other ones, so I can sort of compare. If I had to pick one, I'll pick texas, since I'd love to see a pageant with so many contestants (or one of the other big ones, I know it's not the only one), and I'm moving to texas, so I'm determined to see it at some point :) (NT) -- Spartan Girl, 11:13:21 06/01/09 Mon actually,spartan girl, that is a good idea. visit a state or two that you've never seen(promote tourism!) and see a state pageant all at the same time (NT) -- Andres, 12:06:03 06/01/09 Mon Not this year since they are moving to a hotel ballroom, but I've always wanted to go to Texas USA. (NT) -- TNBoy, 11:26:14 06/01/09 Mon I really want to go to Miss Georgia MAO... beautiful girls.. big pageant.. seems like fun (NT) -- =), 12:46:11 06/01/09 Mon I second that! I'd LOVE to see Miss Georgia live. (NT) -- Marylander, 15:08:29 06/01/09 Mon It's going to be a great show this year with Chasity Hardman singing every night. (NT) -- georgian, 09:01:26 06/03/09 Wed I have seen many New England pageants - and loved them. Coming from a small state (NH), I would love to attend a pageant (MAO or USA) in another "snall state". (NT) -- Aida, 18:01:21 06/01/09 Mon Aida, I didn't realize you were from NH, too! (NT) -- Judge Judy, 16:17:40 06/03/09 Wed I attended WYO MAO the year Jennileigh Swatzke won. Only 7 contestants and not much money for production, and yet, a great time. Producers put in 110% effort and the contestants all wanted to win badly, but the 6 who did not were genuinely thrilled for the winner. A couple of the girls told me they knew they would not win but competed because it was an honor to take a chance on representing their state. (NT) -- My all time fav. Frequent lurker., 21:45:16 06/01/09 Mon I want to go to Miss Pageant Central 2010, where Rocky Girl and Miss Merlin would wear low cut minis while slinging cocktails with a shirtless TNBoy in leather chaps complete with a black bow tie serving appetizers, followed by a Miss Meemaw bust your gut buffet and topped off with MLOP's history of dance pre-pageant entertainment...... (NT) -- GMAN, 08:03:42 06/02/09 Tue I just spit coffee on my computer! This is priceless! (NT) -- homie, 09:10:47 06/02/09 Tue oh,my! as long as Rocky and Miss Merlin snap and chew gum while taking drink orders like all good cocktail broads do! (NT) -- Andres, 13:05:57 06/02/09 Tue I would absolutely, positiviely LOVE to attend Miss Hawaii. They always have an entertaining & upbeat show & the culture they incorporate into it. Also would like to one day go to Miss Oklahoma, they always have a top notch show as well! (NT) -- ~JazzyK, 13:13:12 06/02/09 Tue Shoot. Y'all should see my dress for work. I'll try and take/post a photo by the weekend ;) (NT) -- RockyGirl, 14:41:34 06/02/09 Tue Being from a small pageant state, I'd like to go a state with a high number of contestants like TX AL OK maybe even AR (NT) -- Clever Login, 13:23:18 06/02/09 Tue

Subject: WHERE ARE THEY NOW...
Author: SOURCE: http://www.ktla.com/ [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:41:04 06/01/09 Mon Parker, an Emmy-award-winning journalist, joined KTLA in January 2005 from KENS-TV (CBS affiliate) in San Antonio, Texas where she hosted, and helped create the entertainment program "Great Day S.A." Prior to that, Parker served as the main news anchor at KABB (FOX affiliate) in San Antonio. She began her television career as a news reporter at WCSC (CBS affiliate) in Charleston, South Carolina. Before her career in broadcasting, Parker was a ninth grade English Literature teacher. In 1994, while representing the state of South Carolina, Parker won the title of Miss USA 1994. She went on to compete in the Miss Universe Pageant, where she placed among the top six finalists. Parker is also the author of "Catching the Crown: The Source for Pageant Competition." Parker has co-hosted the Hollywood Christmas Parade alongside "Entertainment Tonight" host Mark Steines, and has reported from behind the scenes at the Tournament of Roses Parade. In addition to her KTLA reporting duties, Parker has played a reporter on several popular television shows, including ABC's "Commander in Chief," USA's "Monk" and CBS's "Shark." You can catch Lu on the big screen this year when she appears in the film "Winged Creatures" starring Forrest Whitaker. Parker holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in English from the College of Charleston, where, in 1994, she was named Alumnus of the Year. She also holds a Master of Arts Degree in Education from the Citadel. Parker has also been presented with the Palmetto Award, the highest civilian honor given in the state of South Carolina. She has addressed both the Georgia and South Carolina General Assemblies and has been recognized in the South Carolina Congressional Record twice as an outstanding South Carolinian. In 1996, Parker was selected to carry the Olympic Torch through Georgia as part of the Summer Olympics in Atlanta. In her free time, Parker is an avid golfer and "loves to shoot a shotgun." She took the top overall female award five years in a row at the Louise Mandrell celebrity shoot. She volunteers for many area animal shelters and rescue groups. Lu also participates in the annual Mark Harmon Celebrity Event that raises thousands of dollars for disabled children. Lu's personal website is http://www.luparker.com [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I am very happy for Lu but her win was one of my WTF moments when she beat Pat Southall (another Hall of Fame 1RU) for the USA title - Lu didn't even answer the top 6 question and still went on to win. Of course Pat got the last laugh by marrying Martin Lawrence and is currently married to Emmitt Smith.... (NT) -- GMAN, 07:24:25 06/02/09 Tue Was Lu interested in marrying Martin Lawrence and Emmitt Smith? (NT) -- Last laugh?, 08:01:23 06/02/09 Tue I heard on the radio this morning that Lu is currently dating Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa... (NT) -- Glamazon, 11:16:42 06/02/09 Tue click in for the article about dating-----> -- TNBoy, 11:51:32 06/02/09 Tue Love her! He's a cool Mayor as well (NT) -- Andres, 12:34:26 06/02/09 Tue I thought her mission in life was to become an educator? Whatever happened to that mission? I guess she preferred the glitz and glamour of TV instead of an unrewarding and stressful job as a teacher in a crowded classroom. (NT) -- Secular Slut, 14:19:20 06/02/09 Tue Small correction: she WAS an educator. At the time of Miss USA she had been teaching (as opposed to "I plan on..."). She didn't NOT follow through with her plans, she just changed them when opportunity knocked :) (which to me is much different than the girl who has taken one Intro to Politics class and says she is going to law school...). (NT) -- RockyGirl, 14:32:23 06/02/09 Tue well it is certainly HER decision in how SHE decides to conduct HER life at any given time. Sounds like an accomplished young woman to me (NT) -- no need to judge, 15:26:28 06/02/09 Tue hmmmm,I dont think an anchor person has glitz and glamour of tv.Maybe an "entertainment" reporter like Mary hart, but not a 10 o'clock news anchor (NT) -- Andres, 16:04:47 06/02/09 Tue Read "Among Schoolchildren" by Tracy Kidder, it will explain a lot about Lu's decision to switch careers. The author spent an entire school year observing an average fifth grade class, and his observations were fascinating and depressing. The burnout ratio for teachers is extremely high, I believe the book said most teachers last an average of 4 years. So its not at all surprising that Lu would switch gears when the opportunity presented itself to her. (NT) -- Meemaw, 01:04:44 06/03/09 Wed Average burn out for a special education teacher is even less then that. I have friends who are in their first or second year as a spec ed teacher and the hurdles they face ((violent and/or disruptive students, uncaring parents, disorganized administration, being streched out to two or more schools and idiotic laws that don't even begin to help spec ed students, etc.)) have them already searching for new teaching jobs. And these are girls who talk of nothing but being special ed teachers and worked through four years of school learning everything they can do to their best in this field. Education needs a massive overhaul and it can't come soon enough. (NT) -- MLOP, 07:14:48 06/03/09 Wed I WAS a teacher. I taught in the Middle East where I would keep the kids book overnight if they were naughty in class. That was the worst punishment I could dole out and it worked wonders. In the US I started teaching and could not cope with it and switched jobs after one year. I completely understand home-schooling. We force our babies to sit in a classroom for a year with some people (including teachers) we would not share a bus ride with. I could tell you some tales....... (NT) -- Withheld by request, 07:24:39 06/03/09 Wed I agree 100% and now more than ever are our kids learning just HOW to test, versus an understanding and a knowledge of the material presented to them. It isn't the teachers fault - its often the STATE's fault. We are hoping to do private school for that reason.... I don't think I have it in me to home school, but I want my kids to LEARN and to ENJOY it and not have to worry about scoring too high or too low because here, if your school scores too high, funding is PULLED and if your school scores low, you get more money and resources! I'm not sure where you are located, but the Texas education system is so messed up. We pay a LOT of money in property taxes where we live, so the schools are great, but they're still bound by the state. (NT) -- 2 Cents, 12:58:42 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: Miss Sweden Universe 2009
Author: Elin. [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:56:31 06/02/09 Tue The following delegates are this year's finalists for the title of Miss Sweden Universe 2009. My original favourite didn't make it to the Top 16. My new favourites are Johanna Lundbäck and Renate Cerljen. Final night's on Saturday. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Michaela is hot (NT) -- Andres, 12:39:43 06/02/09 Tue I think Johanna Lundback is GORGEOUS! She reminds me of Victoria Beckham! (NT) -- Drew #2, 01:17:05 06/03/09 Wed I see four standouts: 1) Johanna Lundback (my favorite), 2) Michaela Savic, 3) Renate Cerljin, 4) Linda Myrin. With the right makeup, Frida Hamberg could look a lot like Mona Grudt. (NT) -- Meemaw, 01:37:18 06/03/09 Wed Linda Myrin is the best and she reminds me a lot of Angela Visser. Excellent group of finalists. (NT) -- AB, 06:41:39 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: What would you have said?
Author: Elin. [Edit]	Date Posted: 10:18:32 05/29/09 Fri How would YOU have answered the final question posed to Miss Paraguay 2006 - Lourdes Arevalos "What values would you like to teach your children?" [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Read as much as you can, tell the truth especially to yourself when you don't want to hear it, take care of your body and seek to understand instead of always seeking to be understood. (NT) -- Marylander, 10:25:41 05/29/09 Fri Nothing worthwhile can be achieved without hard work and dedication - that's what my parents taught me, and that's how i live my life. (NT) -- Pumpkin Pie, 10:32:58 05/29/09 Fri Just be smokin' hot and you'll be fine. (Amelia Vega on David Letterman) (NT) -- Oliclerk (at work), 10:39:10 05/29/09 Fri If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. (NT) -- MLOP, 12:07:17 05/29/09 Fri Honesty, respect, hard work, faith, the value of a dollar, compassion.... there are so many. Its a big, but wonderful burden! (NT) -- 2 Cents, 12:34:03 05/29/09 Fri Kill them with kidness....if that doesn't work watch CSI and take notes. (NT) -- John - Lives in WA, 12:34:55 05/29/09 Fri I love you. (NT) -- MLOP, 13:33:22 05/29/09 Fri LOL. Love you toooooo. (NT) -- John - Lives in WA, 16:48:35 05/29/09 Fri I would have said "We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite. And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised. Thank you." (NT) -- TNBoy, 17:22:28 05/29/09 Fri That's fantastic! (NT) -- Lifelong fan, 12:58:06 05/31/09 Sun Wear in 2002. (NT) -- Snowflake, 02:15:43 05/30/09 Sat 200! (NT) -- Mr. AL USA, 09:58:18 05/30/09 Sat Always wear two earrings or people might sink choo are a pirate or somesing. (NT) -- FLORA, 09:19:50 05/31/09 Sun Perfect response. I always wondered if she lost one or something. Also, did Miss Utah have on only one earring this year? We couldn't see her left one, possibly because of the hair. My friend swears she only wore one and was playing Miss Paraguay 2006. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 12:59:35 05/31/09 Sun Wow, I never noticed that she was wearing only one earring! This makes me love her even more! Yay, Lourdes! (NT) -- mjoon, 20:20:30 06/01/09 Mon She did only wear one earring. If you look closely, the other earring is the brooch at the center of her gown. (NT) -- Jojo, 11:50:26 06/01/09 Mon CLICK IN for a better view -- MissMerlin, 15:18:25 06/01/09 Mon That is so odd. (NT) -- Snowflake, 21:49:38 06/01/09 Mon I think she attached her other earring to the middle of her dress =) (NT) -- Drew #2, 01:19:31 06/03/09 Wed

Subject: Sorry, I've never got that dang picture thang down. But the guru board has pictures from the Miss OK prelims tonight.
Author: homie - with thanks to Lindsey Miller Hanson, Miss OK 06 [Edit]	Date Posted: 23:39:10 06/02/09 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Miss Texas Contestants!
Author: proud texan [Edit]	Date Posted: 21:51:54 05/31/09 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Okay, guess which ones are mine! LOL.....get ready 5 in charge of and about 6 others that I have worked with as well. (NT) -- Txpageantguy, 21:55:05 05/31/09 Sun Which 5? (NT) -- thx, 04:46:31 06/01/09 Mon I think this is one of the most competitive years for Miss Texas I've ever seen and I really hope it comes down to Ashley Melnick and Faith Bates. I would be equally happy if either won. Last year I rooted for Faith and this year I'm rooting for Ashley, but both girls are exceptionally beautiful and look like instant favorites to win Miss America. There are so many beautiful girls competing this year, I think the top 3 are Faith Bates, Ashley Melnick and Kathryn Dunn, with Adrianna Nelson, DeNae Couch, Jessica Haas, Cassidy Arend and Brittany Wellsfry also very striking. And TXPG, I am so impressed with what you've done with Taylor, she looks wonderful! By the way, I know it's early but the Pageant Chat room will be open again this year for those of you who want to chat while watching the live webcast! GO ASHLEY AND FAITH!!! (NT) -- Meemaw, 00:39:39 06/01/09 Mon Wow! What a stunning group of women. (NT) -- :), 04:28:33 06/01/09 Mon I count 3 former MAO Texas Teens...it would be neat if one of them could win on their 1st try... (NT) -- MissMe, 07:42:05 06/01/09 Mon I think the top 5 will be Faith Bates, Meghan Miller, Kathryn Dunn, Ashley Melnick, and I can't decide either Brittany Wellsfry, Adrianna Nelson, or Kristen Blair. (NT) -- I think the competition truly comes down to these 7 being the most competitive., 08:10:08 06/01/09 Mon Bless her heart, and I know it's just one photo, I'm sure she's a lovely girl, but in this particular pic, it would appear that Miss Corpus Christi Area is taking the "corpse" part of her title tad too seriously! (NT) -- MissMerlin, 08:27:32 06/01/09 Mon Thanks Meems! But Taylor has done this on her own, pushing herself to lose the weight, tone up, she's got a new drive and focus and has done well. The 5 that I am in charge of are : Austin Area, Amarillo Area, Corpus Christi (Yes Merlin she took it a bit far I agree), Midland Odessa Area (I LOVE LOVE LOVE HER NEW GOWN SHE IS WEARING), and Sherman Denison Area. But my baby is Cassidy Arend (Thanks again Meems for noticing her) and am so proud of how she's done this year. She was first runner up to Megan at Longview and then won Metrocrest. She's going to be in the mix to be in the final ten. It's a very visually beautiful group this year and a competitive year talent wise as well. I'm excited! (NT) -- TXPAGEANTGUY, 09:26:22 06/01/09 Mon Hey TX Pageant Guy - what's the scoopage on Meghan Miller, can she contend???- Loves me a Ventriloquist!! (NT) -- GMAN, channeling Vonda Van Dyke, 19:35:24 06/01/09 Mon Could she contend? Yes...But she is doing the puppet number she did on America's Got Talent, and it's just very "cutesy teen" to me and others. She is very intellegent, and knows how to play pageant very well. She will be strong, but don't see her winning this year or next. Still needs to work on her SS body somewhat and break away from the puppets she is using and go for a "human looking" puppet to make it seem more like a miss talent than a teen talent. Her teen Longview and the Teen Plano both use the traditional puppet and could put Meghans talent in a lesser light with the puppet she is using. (NT) -- TXPAGEANTGUY, 20:22:09 06/01/09 Mon thanks TX - I liked her at MOT and she looks like she has grown up to be a very pretty young woman - Now can you explain The naming of a local called Miss White Settlement???- which only adds to the irony given her platform... (NT) -- GMAN, 19:16:12 06/02/09 Tue it's the name of the town. As you elude the term "white settlement " was just that. A white settlement in what was a native american indian region. Ft Worth has it's roots in protecting settlers in the area. At least thats how our history wrote it. that said I don't think we need to expand on the persecution of native americans on this forum. (NT) -- google it for more info, 19:26:02 06/02/09 Tue Hey TEXPAGEANTGUY, I agree Texas has some outstanding girls this year! I can not wait for Miss Texas to see how it all plays out! You know who I wish would have come back, but she never did...SHEA YARBOROUGH!! That girl was talented and drop dead gorgeous...Total Miss America right there! Also, I wasn't aware that Cassidy Arrend was Miss Metrocrest I don't know why I thought she had won a runner up title. I love her talent, she has a beautiful voice but she comes across to harsh looking at times. She needs to soften her make up and her look. What about Selena Aframs, that poor girl competed in just about every pageant placing as a runner up, have you been working with her? Fill me in! Who do you predict to win? -- ROSEANNE ROSEANADANA, 21:01:11 06/02/09 Tue Hey there RR!!!! Long time no see or hear from! Click in for my comments on what I see playing out. -- TXPAGEANTGUY, 23:01:41 06/02/09 Tue Love Austin and Amarillo Area. Both great girls. Good luck with them Texas Guy!!! (NT) -- BeeBee, 21:13:20 06/02/09 Tue Jessica Haas? Why is she familiar to me- where has she competed? (NT) -- XXXXXXX, 07:37:24 06/02/09 Tue Jessica was Teen Texarkana a few years ago. She's going to school in Tennesee at the moment. You might have seen her do a few prelims to teen Arkansas if I am not mistaken. (NT) -- TXPAGEANTGUY, 09:43:12 06/02/09 Tue

Subject: You DON'T want to miss this!
Author: TAG [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:14:49 06/01/09 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Stevie is way better on video than in photos. She looks very beautiful here. I'm not sure why Arkansans aren't photogenic. (NT) -- BamaMan, 06:40:48 06/02/09 Tue Now BamaMan- how can you say that? Wew have very photogenic girls in Arkansas! (NT) -- XXXXXXX, 07:32:53 06/02/09 Tue Lets hope those who sign up remember they will need passports to travel to the Bahamas....... (NT) -- GMAN, 07:14:23 06/02/09 Tue Isn't it that you just need a passport to get back in the US? No worries... I'll just move to the Bahamas and live in the tropics :) (NT) -- Jen... wishful thinking on a dreary day, 12:12:44 06/02/09 Tue Is it sad that I'm waaaaayy to old to go to the fantasy camp, but I still really wish I could. Anyone need a chaperone?!! (NT) -- Glitter Gal, 17:50:21 06/02/09 Tue Sorry if this has been discussed. Quick question, will the new teen get a new crown too? (NT) -- Crown chaser, 22:45:33 06/02/09 Tue

Subject: What do you think?
Author: tops [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:48:59 06/02/09 Tue www.missosology.info [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I love Costa Rica and think she is VERY beautiful; but, not sure I would place her at the very top. I'm increasingly enamored with Belgium. Dominican Republic and Albania are still my Top 2. I don't get Japan AT ALL and keep hoping she'll say that all gays in Japan should be exiled to a camp on Okinawa or something. (NT) -- BamaMan, 19:38:23 06/02/09 Tue In this montage, Japan looks like a poor man's Kimora Lee Simmons. My problem is with USA's headshot. Did somebody actually look at proofs and select THAT one? She looks awful as well as awfully angry. (NT) -- silver the loser, 19:51:26 06/02/09 Tue Miss Albania wins in a walk. Dominican Republic can show up just in case Albania passes out onstage or wears Satan's Bed Sheets. The rest of these chicks should just hit the buffet, pet a few dolphins, and enjoy their time at the 2009 Miss Universe Conference...er, Pageant. (NT) -- old school fan, 20:39:45 06/02/09 Tue

Subject: Miss USA 2009
Author: whoo [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:42:45 06/02/09 Tue Can someone with the ability please upload the Swimsuit & Evening Gown competitions from Miss USA 2009 onto youtube? I would be very greatful! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Who-hooo! I've found my first nominee of the season for Miss Hello Anybody Home for this year!
Author: Andres [Edit]	Date Posted: 16:24:47 06/01/09 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'd say about half of this years headshots form Miss AR would qualify too (NT) -- Clever Login, 08:56:51 06/02/09 Tue I wonder if we could request the current Miss Hello Anbody Home's picture be put on the bottom of the site next to Miss Pageant Patty? (NT) -- Andres, 13:03:42 06/02/09 Tue

Subject: Pageant Videos

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Date Posted: 11:45:26 06/02/09 Tue

Hey Fellow PC'ers,

I have an extensive collection of national/state pageant videos & haven't collected any new ones in awhile. I am interested in locating some specific state MAO pageants that I am missing from my collection. I have posted on the particular state boards but to no avail so I thought I'd see if any of the PC family could help!

I am looking for the following state pageant vids:

Miss California 98 (winner, Danielle Coney)

Miss Georgia 82 (winner, Bobbie Eakes)
Miss Georgia 97 (winner, Candice Little)
Miss Georgia 98 (winner, April Brinson)
Miss Georgia 99 (winner, Osjha Anderson)

Miss New York 96 (winner, Tammy Harris)
Miss New York 97 (winner, Lisa Esler)
Miss New York 98 (winner, Deanna Herrara)

Miss Oklahoma 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 & 1994 (any of those years)
Miss Oklahoma 96 (winner, Amy Duncan)
Miss Oklahoma 97 (winner, Kelli Masters)
Miss Oklahoma 98 (winner, Julie Payne)

Miss Tennessee 1998 (winner, Heather Heath)
Miss Tennessee 2000 (winner, Beth Hood)

Do any of you have copies of these or know where I can find them? I have national tapes (MAO, USA, Teen USA, Universe) and state (MAO, USA, Teen USA) and would be willing to trade or buy...Please email me at JazzyK116@aol.com if you have info for me!

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Subject: Wear It or Burn It?
Author: Elin. [Edit]	Date Posted: 05:31:46 05/27/09 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don't mind the dress..what I don't like is it's so matchy matchy...black bracelet...black shoes...black bag...then white scarf....baaaah. (NT) -- Fannie Pack, 07:19:28 05/27/09 Wed I agree, wear the dress with different accessories :) (NT) -- Spartan Girl, 14:26:17 05/27/09 Wed I'd love this dress if it were black and almost any other color but white. (NT) -- old school fan, 07:49:39 05/27/09 Wed Shorten it to just above the knees, and I'd wear it...with different shoes. (NT) -- Sister, 08:24:44 05/27/09 Wed I agree with FP - make it interesting with well chosen accessories. (NT) -- webby - the PacNW gal!, 08:42:46 05/27/09 Wed Don't know why but I'm not feelng the top of the dress. Something off about it. It looks like a gift tied with a black ribbon. (NT) -- SCORCH THE TOP and KEEP THE BOTTOM HALF, 09:00:26 05/27/09 Wed I mostly love it, but I think I would love it more without the bracelet and if the woman wearing it were a brunette. I'm picturing it on your beloved Miss UTA USA and thinking WOW! (NT) -- MissMerlin, 10:21:42 05/27/09 Wed I absolutely LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would be in my top 5 favs ever (NT) -- Lion Boy, 14:28:54 05/27/09 Wed hmmmmm.......one in a long time that I would probably choose not to burn! (NT) -- TNBoy, 15:36:51 05/27/09 Wed GASP!!!! I would so wear this! And I would have my handlers slap everybody who dared to look at me. This is beautiful!!! (NT) -- Meemaw, 15:41:36 05/27/09 Wed Love it. (NT) -- Bloo, 16:54:11 05/27/09 Wed I think it's pretty (NT) -- Andres, 16:56:30 05/27/09 Wed Were I judging, at least a nine....really like it too.... (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 17:45:12 05/27/09 Wed Like this dress! (NT) -- ot mom, 11:29:29 05/28/09 Thu Looks ok to me. (NT) -- Tiki Java, 07:08:14 05/29/09 Fri Its like a bad bridesmaid mishap. Shorten it, all black, no flower... then its a maybe. (NT) -- 2 Cents, 12:36:56 05/29/09 Fri Given the choice between wear it or burn it - I would wear it. (NT) -- Aida, 17:51:54 05/29/09 Fri Hate it. Burn. (NT) -- Snowflake, 02:11:18 05/30/09 Sat BTW, nice Bottega Veneta clutch!! That is the shining star of this ensemble! (NT) -- Snowflake, 02:12:24 05/30/09 Sat This dress is fabulous- so classy ! (NT) -- NC GAL, 15:41:55 05/30/09 Sat Is this Natasha Richardson who recently passed away from a skiing accident? (NT) -- tourist, 16:00:17 05/30/09 Sat Not even close (NT) -- NBQueen, 19:01:40 05/30/09 Sat Nope, this is princess Madeleine of Sweden. (NT) -- Elin., 08:43:42 05/31/09 Sun I love this. And I don't mind the shoes at all. Somebody show me an example of the shoes/accessories they would like better with this dress... (NT) -- Belle, 18:36:10 06/01/09 Mon Personally, I would just like to see a little bit of color in one or two of the accessories. I normally think all black and white is classy, but for some reason i'm just not digging the all black accessories. A red or other brightly colored clutch would make all the difference to me :) (NT) -- Spartan Girl, 11:37:36 06/02/09 Tue The dress is GORGEOUS! (NT) -- SNOWMAN, 20:16:31 06/01/09 Mon Wear it. (NT) -- Frequent lurker., 21:28:33 06/01/09 Mon I saw this dress at the BCBG Max Azria boutique in my hometown on Saturday when I was out shopping with a former titleholder. It didn't have much hanger appeal at all so that makes this photo even more intriguing because there were SEVERAL still in the store, which makes me think that a LOT of women have walked by an not given this dress a second look on the rack. (NT) -- Marylander, 09:23:25 06/02/09 Tue

Subject: A Thousand People In The Audience & A List Of Sponsors The Length Of My Arm...There's a Lesson To Be Learned Here Somewhere!
Author: SOURCE: http://mangalorean.com/ [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:08:19 06/01/09 Mon Indian national Miss Amy Vaya beat 15 other contestants of different nationalities to win the May Queen 2009 Crown at the beauty pageant contest organized by the Young Goans Club (YGC) in Manama, Bahrain. More than 1000 people attended the event that was held by the poolside of the Delmon Hotel in Manama on 28th May. Guests were treated to performances of nostalgic oldies by local band 'The Aryan Fame' while local DJ Alfy handled stage and lighting effects in addition to performing lively dance tunes. The 1st runner-up was 22 year old Briton Lucy Wozniack, who moved to Bahrain just two months back after living in Dubai for 16 years. Former stewardess at Emirates, 24 year old Irish/Chinese Gemma Cheung took the third spot. Miss Cheung also picked up the prize for the Best Smile. The YGC May Queen 2009 Miss.Vaya, who is a flight attendant and former student of Sacred Heart School Bahrain also claimed the Best Hairdo and Miss Articulate prizes. She was also voted the crowd favorite, through a SMS poll of the audience conducted by the title sponsors Centrepoint. The contest was judged by a panel of seven judges in three rounds. The first round was in Smart Sport/Traditional Wear and the second round with Formal Wear, with all contestants taking to the elegant set catwalk. The other contestants besides the winners who made it to the final round of Brain and Wit were Dalhia Al Shebli (Jordanian), Yodith Fesha Belete (Ethopian) and Monica Nsima (Nigerian). The panel of judges consisted of Mr. Zafar Ali (Group Marketing Manager of Al Rashid Group), Alison Lillywhite (Sales Officer/Advertising Gulf Daily News), Neomi D'Souza (Regional Manager Royal Caribbean Cruises), Gwen Fernandes (Regular in modeling/print advertising campaigns), Kevin D'Cunha (Choreographer dance/fashion shows), Sheela Pai (Past President of Manama Toastmasters) and Ms. Senora Varella (Regular participant in beauty contests). Prizes for the winners included gold, electronic items, beauty care products, air tickets, surprise gift hampers, shopping vouchers and other items. All entrants received participation gifts. Nicole Solomatenko assisted by Fahad Al Dossari choreographed the beauty pageant. Radio Bahrain DJ Krazy Kevin hosted the event assisted by master of ceremonies and club member G.R. Crasto. The title sponsors of the event were Centrepoint. Platinum sponsors Coca Cola, and Gold sponsors were Media Solutions, Union Press, Bahrain Air and Oman Air. The event was also supported by Devji Aurum, Ahmed Zayani & Sons, Mega Mart, Mobitel, Life Insurance Corporation, Oman Air, Writer Relocation, KLM, Dadabhai Travel, Gulf Computer Services, Awal Plastics, Mirchi, Delmon Hotel, KIMS Bahrain, Selcon, Johnson & Johnson, UAE Exchange, Makeup Forever, Alukkas, Bahrain Finance Company, Georgia Restaurant, Al Futtain & Sons, Home Electronics, etc. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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lmao somebody needs to go to sash school. (NT) -- Oliclerk, 22:23:14 06/01/09 Mon That looks like a very good ugly dress nominee for next year! (NT) -- njgurl, 10:36:17 06/02/09 Tue

Subject: Miss USA 2009
Author: Oliclerk [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:22:21 06/01/09 Mon How many from the front row were called to the t15? Any other odd things you guys noticed? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Kristen Dalton was the only who who was named "the beautiful" when getting called (NT) -- ., 22:54:52 06/01/09 Mon

Subject: QUOTE OF THE DAY...

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Date Posted: 21:45:50 06/01/09 Mon

Eva Longoria Parker on how winning a beauty pageant changed her life:
Pageants are a part of the culture in Texas. In my pageant package, I won a trip to Hollywood to compete in a talent competition. So I went and never came home. I fell in love with Los Angeles where I became an actor. Everything went by very quickly that I didn’t even go home to pack.

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Subject: Amin Dhillon is Miss India Worldwide Canada 2010

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Date Posted: 21:36:44 06/01/09 Mon

Amin Dhillon, a stunning model and marketing professional, has won the title of Miss India Worldwide Canada 2010. Amin was selected by the IFC, producers of the Miss India Worldwide pageant, to represent Canada at the Nineteenth Annual Miss India Worldwide Pageant to be held on Saturday, March 27, 2010, at the International Convention Center in Durban, South Africa. Amin makes history as the first Manitoba woman to win the Title of Miss India Worldwide Canada. Amin beat out thousands of girls across Canada to capture the title of Miss India Worldwide Canada. She will use her newly crowned position to travel across Canada to support various charity causes and educate woman today. The Miss India Worldwide pageant is the only international Indian pageant with over 25 countries participating. Previous winners have achieved success in Bollywood, business and politics. Previously, there have been two former Miss India Worldwide Canada winners to win the Miss India Worldwide crown: Poonam Chibber in 1997 and Melissa Bhagat in 1998. Amin, 24 years old, attended the University of Manitoba at the I.H. Asper School of Business where she obtained a Bachelor (Honours) degree. She has been active in her community by participating in student politics and on various fundraising committees. During her reign as Miss India Worldwide Canada, Amin will be available to support and appear at various charity and cultural events across Canada. Amin is determined to support various national and international charities during her reign and use her position to raise community awareness. Amin will be utilizing a blog on her website to keep fans and supporters up-to-date on all of her activities during her reign. Currently, Amin and the 2010 Miss India Worldwide Canada Committee are seeking sponsorship to assist Amin in preparing for South Africa. Interested parties may obtain more information at the official Amin Dhillon website, HTTP://www.amindhillon.com

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Subject: QFAD
Author: New2MAO [Edit]	Date Posted: 01:11:39 05/31/09 Sun I was wondering if any of you have had experience with Queen for a Day? I'm thinking of starting a chapter, which would be the only one in my state ... and one of the few in the Midwest. Would you reccomend it, or no? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Bump! (NT) -- Bump!, 22:40:22 05/31/09 Sun I don't exactly have personal experience with the organization, but I tried to do the same thing (east coast) -- and had difficulty with someone getting back to me. click in for more...., 23:25:52 05/31/09 Sun I know titleholders who have participated in QFAD events (and they loved it!), but am not familiar with their experiences in starting a chapter. I do know someone who ran the DC chapter for a while but she has since moved and no longer competes so I'm not sure if she's still in touch with them. If you would like me to contact her however, give me a shout. (NT) -- MissMerlin, 08:34:56 06/01/09 Mon Miss Merlin, you actually still know someone who directs a chapter. The Capital Chapter for which I serve as Titleholder Liaison is directed by none other than our beloved Shannon Beam, Miss Greater Richmond 2009. (NT) -- Marylander, 09:32:15 06/01/09 Mon Shannon is currently out of town and I dont know how much access she has to the internet right now. If you friend's request her on facebook I know she will get back to you when she has time. (NT) -- ITK, 17:01:05 06/01/09 Mon I have actually been the Titleholder Liaison for the Capital Chapter since August 2005. Over the years, I've found work with the organization to be incredibly rewarding. Our chapter serves Children's National Medical Center (a CMN member facility) and Georgetown University Medical Center in DC and Inova Fairfax Hospital in Northern Virginia. Jenna Edwards offers very hands-on guidance for new chapter directors and I have been impressed with the whole operation and there are just no words to describe how much the participants and their families appear to appreciate and enjoy the programs. If you have the time to commit to running it, I say go for it! (NT) -- Marylander, 09:27:11 06/01/09 Mon

Subject: First Runner-up Hall of Fame
Author: Wayne [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:10:42 05/30/09 Sat Pity the poor first runner-up. She's one step away from the crown and forever gets to wonder what she might have done to have won the title. Yes, there are some years (Heather Whitestone's in MAO, for example) where everyone else probably should have gone home and come back the next year to have a chance at winning. But in many cases it's a matter of "coulda, woulda, shoulda." So I'm establishing the First Runner-Up Hall of Fame and granting charter membership to a cherished few. You are entitled to nominate your favorite first runner-up but I will let you know if your candidate has been granted membership into this exclusive organization. Fortunately for them, it's not just a matter of personality, i.e. we love them and they should have won. Even beyotches will be able to enter. All except one, one from 2009. (She wouldn't accept the honor anyway.) Charter Members: 1. Alice Emerick, Miss Texas 1937. Most first runner-ups get to hear the words, "If for any reasons Miss Thing cannot fulfill her duties, the first runner-up, etc." Alas, not poor Alice. She stood around waiting for Bette Cooper to show up for the publicity shots. Except Bette never did. And the rules weren't in place. So everyone went home instead of doing the right thing: placing the Miss America crown on Alice's head and allowing her to reign in place of the disgruntled winner. 2. Suzette Charles, MAO 1983. If you're named as first runner-up and then actually get to take over, well, you've got to make the Hall of Fame. Besides, she gave the classic "WTF?" reaction when named first runner-up, the look that says not only "I did NOT plan on coming in second in this thing" but also implies "Kiss my butt" without putting it into words. 3. Charlotte Sheffield, Miss USA 1957. Leona Gage got the headlines but eventually Charlotte got the title but, alas, wasn't allowed to compete in Miss Universe. So, like Suzette, who also assumed the national title, she gets a shot because she got to fulfill (for the most part) every first runner-up's dream. 4. This is a group award: Miss USAs who were first runner-up at Universe. From Myrna Hansen in 1953 to La Shandi in 2004, Miss USA has a long and proud tradition of "almost" becoming Miss Universe. It's a special group and each member of this special sorority has her avid fans, who will go to their grave shouting things like "Julie should have won!" Alas, for fans of this group award, no conspiracy theories have ever been proven! Another nominations? In your response, please be sure to highlight what about your nominee raises her above the crowd of other first runner-ups. The first runner-up is a fact of pageant life. She must do something to stand above the crowd, as opposed to just pissing off the second runner-up who thought SHE should have won or, at the very least, been first runner-up herself. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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OHMIGOD, I forgot another charter member: Catherine Lemkau, Miss Iowa 1992 and first ru to Leanza Cornett, MAO 1993. If you watch the tape, Leanza, fully expecting to be first runner-up, says, "You'll be the best Miss America" and Catherine mouths the words "thank you" (a few years before Brandi, btw). But, in the next moment, Leanza is announced the winner and Miss Iowa graciously hugs the new Miss America moments after publicly (or semi-publicly) acknowledging her superiority. Catherine also represents another larger group: the two-time preliminary winner who was 1st RU at MAO. (NT) -- Wayne, 07:20:13 05/30/09 Sat That IS a great moment, isn't it? I actually tend to think that, while Leanza thought Catherine had won, Leanza also could be very dramatic and knew her way around a pageant stage. Telling your fellow Top 2 placer that she's going to win certainly earns one a big bunch of karma points. I was there that year, and had practiced all day saying "The first runner up is Catherine Anne Lemkau, Miss Iowa," because I just knew she would be top 2 with "my girl," that I was there to support. Alas, "my girl" didn't make Top 5 but my incantation apparently worked and Iowa did indeed get 1st RU. Also, Brandi was mouthing "thank you" way back in 1989 at Miss Teen USA. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 09:00:30 05/30/09 Sat Wayne, I love this topic! If 1st runner ups ever get together and discuss their finishes, one of the big questions would be "Would you rather finish 1st runner up or last?". I've been with quite a few 1st runner ups and believe me, when they're being honest, the answer is always LAST. I know it's hard to imagine anyone not being thrilled about coming so close to winning the title, but after all that preparation and all the hope, 1st runner up is the most disappointing place of all. "What was the one thing I said, did, or wore that didn't win me the crown?" Compare it to the Super Bowl or World Series--can you even remember who lost last year? Such an achievement to be one of the final two teams, yet what a devastating loss. Here's to all the 1st runners up! (NT) -- silver the loser, 07:32:34 05/30/09 Sat Great topic Wayne! I would like to nominate Virginia Cha (1st RU to Debbye Turner). Gorgeous, talented, and classy as hell, I'm not sure I remember a time when the last two standing were BOTH so perfect for the crown. Of course I am biased because not only was she a Miss Maryland, but before that she was Miss Frederick (my old title). She also had the dubious honor of teaching me how to walk in high heels during my preparations for Miss Maryland. (NT) -- MissMerlin, 08:35:10 05/30/09 Sat As you know, Miss Merlin, the act of attempting to teach you to walk in heels would not, by itself, be a reason for Virginia to enter the First Runner-Up Hall of Fame. (I assume her reaction to your attempts has been lost to history.) But, for the moment you describe - the utter perfection of the last two standing, a perfection that is difficult to achieve - I allow Virginia membership in this new Hall of Fame. (I'm trying to figure out where the Museum of the First Runner-Up should be located.) (NT) -- Wayne, 08:46:15 05/30/09 Sat Hoopeston, IN? (NT) -- Meemaw, 11:30:06 05/30/09 Sat As ever you are right, Meemaw, although Hoopeston is in Illinois and not Indiana. But the First Runner-Up Hall of Fame to be located in the same town as the Sweet Corn Festival seems highly appropriate. (NT) -- Wayne, 12:32:22 05/30/09 Sat Thank you, I meant Illinois! And I applaud your decision to honor these also-rans in such a worthy place. (NT) -- Meemaw, 15:03:05 05/30/09 Sat I agree that Turner and Cha are equally perfect for the 1990 crown. I still feel the "pain" each time I watch the MA90 pageant and seeing Cha being JUST the 1st runner up. I am sure I will also feel the same way for Turner had Cha won instead and Turner is the runner up. If only any of them competed in MA89 or MA91 instead, they could have taken the crowns. (NT) -- AB, 09:31:50 05/30/09 Sat I agree Miss Merlin. Either Virginia or Debbye could have been Miss America that year. Both were fantastic! (NT) -- Andres, 20:26:22 05/31/09 Sun I respectfully nominate Miss New York Teen USA 1988, Jessica Collins. What a stunning girl and so lovely in "defeat," even if it was to a girl who should have been clapping in the background. As I've said many times, this result is my single biggest WTF moment in pageantry, and I think Jessica deserves a place in your HOF because I suspect many feel the same as I. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 09:02:58 05/30/09 Sat LOVE this topic Wayne.....some mofe nominees....another instance where congratulations were extended prematurely was in 1969 where Pam Eldred congratulated Kathy Baumann and then ended up winning....Kathy too had mouthed "Thank You." My two Miss NCs who were first ru in a row, Michelle Warren and Kelli Bradshaw. No other state has had that feat in recent history. And finally, the five ladies who were 1st ru to the five Miss USA's in a row from Texas.......Brenda Denton, Halle Berry, Chloe Carbrera, Diana Maganya and Jill Sheffert......the only one of them I think should have won was Brenda.....anyway, my nominees for a great topic....... (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 09:12:33 05/30/09 Sat I am going to make space for another group in the HofF: The state of Louisiana, MAO division. North Carolina has won the title at least one time but Louisiana, on the other hand, has come in as first runner-up four times in recent history and has never won the title of Miss America. (There are endless debates about whether Patricia, Erika, Faith or Jennifer should have won but that's another topic.) For frustration alone, LA is in. Re: Debbie Shelton: she is already in the Hall of Fame as one of the First Runner-up USAs. (The ranking of these first runner-ups is a subject for another thread, though I suspect Debbie would rank high on such a list.) I think Jessica Collins deserves entry into the Hall of Fame just for the sheer obviousness of the fact that she should have won. Other than Mindy's family, was anyone else in the entire universe thinking Mindy was going to win. (NT) -- Wayne, 10:00:40 05/30/09 Sat NC--you and I have the same 1st RU pick:Brenda Denton! (NT) -- Andres, 02:19:39 05/31/09 Sun One of the biggest 1st runner up injustice has got to be Debbye Shelton. No offence to Marisol, but Debbye's beauty, grace, physique and personality clearly surpass Marisol's. Debbye has maintained her beauty all these years and still in competition form. For me, she is one of the most everlasting beauties....... (NT) -- AB, 09:20:16 05/30/09 Sat Maya Walker!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- webby - the PacNW gal!, 09:53:05 05/30/09 Sat Maya Walker - Gretchen Carlson - are ya kidding me? No really, are you serious? What the heck? How did that happen? Maya's face, figure, talent . . . Was it just the violin cause I can see no other reason? Is there a support group out there for those of us who are still stuck in denial or bargaining cause I cannot get to acceptance. How many years ago was this? (NT) -- webby - the PacNW gal!, 09:55:41 05/30/09 Sat I wish I had a tape of Gretchen's year because, while I was bewildered by her win, I wasn't in the "It's got to be Maya!" camp either. (I thought Jenny Jackson, Miss AL, was going to win and if I start a "Fourth Runner-Up Hall of Fame," she will be the first entrant.) But, if I get at least one more impassioned vote for Maya, "the judges' committee" will have to seriously reconsider Maya's nomination. (NT) -- Wayne, 11:32:52 05/30/09 Sat I read a TV Guide article that was published pageant week the next year and the prelim judges were shocked when GC won. They said she had talent, but nothing else. In the article one of the judges said the auditors forgot to add in the int score. (NT) -- The prelim int carried over to the final that year and counted 15%., 00:52:40 05/31/09 Sun (small voice) I LOOOOOOOOOVE(d) Gretchen Carlson!!!!!! Maya Walker was prettier, no argument about that, but Gretchen's talent was just superb, while Maya's was mediocre (actually, the first half was pretty good...the last half was...not.) I'm more outraged about Maya not making the the top 11 at Miss USA 1992 than I am about her not winning Miss America 1989. (NT) -- old school fan, 13:16:46 05/31/09 Sun I nominate Jennifer Dupont, Louisiana's gorgeous triple crown winner. Miss Louisiana Teen USA 1998, Miss Louisiana USA 2000, Miss Louisiana 2004, and FIRST RUNNER UP to MISS AMERICA 2005, Deidre Downs. Beautiful face, amazing swimuit, and all-around nice girl! (NT) -- daffodil, 11:56:38 05/30/09 Sat ps- I saw you nominated the whole state of LA, but I think Jennifer is THE most outstanding of them all and deserves it on her own :) Great post idea, Wayne! (NT) -- daffodil, 12:01:48 05/30/09 Sat I second your nomination, daffodil! Jennifer remains a stunning beauty and has continued to help other contestants read their goals of capturing local and state titles. She was an amazing Miss LA and an extremely gracious 1st RU at Miss America (NT) -- Tumbleweed, 13:38:25 05/31/09 Sun If it pleases and sparkles, I would like to nominate Venezuela's Claudia Moreno into the First Runner-up Hall of Fame. I believe Claudia is the ultimate first runner-up. She wasn't supposed to compete in the Miss Universe pageant, in fact she wasn't going anywhere until it was determined Martina Thorogood would be going to Miss World and the MUO told the MVO to hold another pageant cause we're not taking your sloppy seconds and especially that bitch Norkys Batista. In reality they were taking their sloppy seconds anyway, but that second chance allowed Claudia to represent Venezuela at Miss Universe, where she ran into a brick wall with the voice of God who decreed that the best anyone else could do was finish 1RU, and she did. Despite all the odds being against her, Claudia Moreno achieved the highest placement possible and will forever be a symbol of triumph to first runner-up hopefuls everywhere. Thank you. (NT) -- Meemaw, 14:51:28 05/30/09 Sat I spit out my tea when I saw the South Park "If it pleases and sparkles " quote! Meemaw, you slay me- seriously!!! (NT) -- NC GAL (LOL), 15:38:59 05/30/09 Sat I thought Cathy Lemkau sputtered out finals night. My MAO/USA list is based on my feeling that they were a better contestant then the winner. Kathy Baumann-Miss OH 69 1st RU to Pam Eldred. Beautiful, a nice talent and just an all around great contestant. I think Pam's story (her handicap sister) won her the crown over Cathy and 2nd RU hall of famer Susan Anton. Charlene Dallas-Miss CA. Ditto but much more of a WTF moment when Jayroe won. Judy Heike/Susan Lawrence-Tawny and Rebecca turned out to be fine Miss America's but both were noticeably weak in all categories. Sandra Truitt 1st RU to Elizabeth Ward, not because she deserved to win but had a better WTF moment then Suzette when she got called. Despite looking 20 years older then then other girls and having the ugliest EG of any semifinalist of the 1980's she was still shocked/pissed that she didn't win and like Suzette wasn't nice to the other girls all week. (NT) -- Iola, 19:07:49 05/30/09 Sat An poor Charlene Dallas had also been 1st ru in California that year and took over the title. (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 22:31:02 05/30/09 Sat sigh...Claudia Moreno. One of the my all-time favorite hsir styles I have ever seen at MIss Universe. When she comes down those stairs after being announced as a semi-finalist is when I instantly loved her. When of the best top 2 of any MIss U pageant was that year. (NT) -- Andres, 13:55:24 05/31/09 Sun I would like to nominate Miriam Quiambao, first runner-up in Miss Universe 1999. Originally in her national pageant, Miriam was crowned Binibining Pilipinas World. However, controversy soon erupted when the Binibining Pilipinas-Universe titleholder Janelle Bautista was dethroned due to questionable citizenship. Miriam was then asked to take over the title and be the Philippine representative to the 1999 Miss Universe pageant. Not only did she became 1st runner-up, but Miriam also won the Clairol Herbal Essences Style Award. But most significantly, Miriam still managed to crack the semifinals even after her much-publicized fall during the preliminaries. Despite this incident she collected herself, regained composure, walked graciously, finished her walk, and drew applause from the audience. At the finals, Quiambao referred to the incident during an interview portion. She said "she felt she represented those women who have fallen both on and off the stage". (NT) -- eddie, 21:16:53 05/30/09 Sat Hello, Eddy. You must be a new poster. Nice to see you. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 13:04:12 05/31/09 Sun Serious moment: I started this Hall of Fame because I'd had a bad week. A good friend has been in the hospital since Tuesday and I've spent five days visiting him. But I never imagined y'all would respond as you did. Back to Pageant Reality: I'm wiping away tears as I present the "Pick Yourself Up" Award (and a place in the hall) to Miriam Q. Additional Placements to: Claudia Moreno (recipient of "The Sloppy Seconds" Award - perhaps an annual award in the 1st RU H of F - what contestant wouldn't want to win THIS one?); the "From First RU to First RU" Award (AKA as the "I Wasn't Supposed To Be Here Anway Award") to Charlene Dallas; the "She Fooled Me Too" Award to Kathy Baumann. The "WTF Award" to Sandra Truitt. And two recipients of the "I Was Beaten in Interview" Award to Judy Hieke and Susan Lawrence, yet another NC first runner-up. This means NC, along with LA, will be in the State Division of the Hall of Fame. It's getting crowded; I'm reserving more room in Hoopeston! (NT) -- Wayne, 23:18:33 05/30/09 Sat Wayne, here's hoping your friend gets well soon...will keep them in my prayers....please add another Miss NC to the list....Connie Dorn, 1st ru to Miss 700 club herself.(4 Miss NC 1st ru's at MAO)....and then 2nd ru to Summer Bartholomew in '75......and, how about poor Cullen Johnson....sacrificial 1st ru to Heather Whitestone (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 00:21:10 05/31/09 Sun And, if she promises to wear her leopard-print gown, Jennifer Dupont - of LA First RU Fame - can enter the hall! (NT) -- Wayne, 23:20:20 05/30/09 Sat Yea! Go Jennifer!! (NT) -- TNBoy, 00:37:43 05/31/09 Sun I would like to nominate Brenda Denton,Miss NM USA1985 and 1st RU to Laura Herring. Brenda clearly had that pageant,but couldnt get it because of Mai's win the year before(which also shouldnt have happened). The fabulous Brenda went on to be 2nd RU at MIss World that year,but I am firmly convinced with her look and styling she would have given Deborah Carthy-Deu a run for her money at Universe. (NT) -- Andres, 01:32:30 05/31/09 Sun New subdivision in the Hall of Fame: "First Runner-up To God's Representative." The following women could have been struck down dead if they had dared defeat God's chosen one; they sacrificed a title to keep their lives: Constance Dorn (1RU to Terry Meeuwsen, God's chatterbox); Tana Kay Carli (1RU to God's Miracle Cure); Cullen Johnson (1 RU to God's Winged Angel). And now, since two of NC's MAO First RU's are in the Hall already, I guess we'll now have the "Two In A Row" NC Queens: Michelle Warren and Kelly Bradshaw. Michelle is putting her pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else; she is just "being me." And Kelly is applying make-up for an amazing transformation. So someone let them know they're in. (NT) -- Wayne, 06:13:18 05/31/09 Sun Wayne, you're cracking me up. Your comments about Michelle and Kelly from NC are hilarious. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 13:05:57 05/31/09 Sun If she had won the title Miss USA, she might have never won her Oscar so, as the only Oscar-winning First Runner-up, Halle Berry is in. And, with two nominations now, Brenda Denton, the only New Mexico sash factor victim in pageant history, is in. And, oh, yeah, Maya Walker is in. This nomination isn't just for the fact that she was First Runner-up in the Greatest Head Scratcher of all MAO pageants (and there have been some head scratchers, believe me). But also because, as they were stalling for time while the judges were deciding, host Gary Collins asked the finalists their favorite moment of the week and Maya said, "Lunch." For an impromptu smart-ass answer as well: "Come on, down, Maya!" (NT) -- Wayne, 06:29:23 05/31/09 Sun I have it on good authority that Maya said later that she took one look at Gretchen standing there to her right and thought "I've got this thing won." (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 13:07:32 05/31/09 Sun I would nominate Helen Salas, 1st RU to the dethroned Katie Rees, Miss Nevada USA. I think if Katie represented Nevada, the state would have not made it to the semis or 4th RU. (NT) -- Silver State, 13:13:46 05/31/09 Sun I must nominate Lindsay Douglas of KS. Her 1st runner-up status to Hinton was wrong on so many levels. (NT) -- silver the loser, 13:41:51 05/31/09 Sun My nominee would be Cullen Johnson - who so wonderfully embraced, smiled, and pointed to Heather on her win only to turn around and state matter of factly that MAO clearly wanted a disabled Miss America or how else could she have lost???? (NT) -- GMAN, 16:17:09 05/31/09 Sun G....look at a previous post....we always seem to think alike.... (NT) -- NC pageant fan, 16:38:30 05/31/09 Sun I agree 100% with you,GMAN (NT) -- Andres, 17:57:46 05/31/09 Sun I know of one story - and would like to hear of others - of a first runner-up throwing a hissy fit on stage. PG and I know about one on the Miss Mass MAO stage in 1973. But I'm wondering if there are others. They won't necessarily make the Hall of Fame (unless of course we're talking nuclear reactor meltdown) but still would like to hear about them. (NT) -- Wayne, 17:44:46 05/31/09 Sun Here's an obvious one no one has mention....1st runner-up to Miss Colombia in 1958. The original winner was unable to attend, so they sent their 1st runner-up, Luz Marina Zuluaga, who became Colombia's only (to date) Miss Universe. (NT) -- Tiki Java, 18:22:38 05/31/09 Sun I did not know this bit of history. I wonder what the original winner looked like? Luz, moving from First RU to Miss Universe, is a natural for the Hall of Fame with that inspirational story. (NT) -- Wayne, 20:11:22 05/31/09 Sun Speaking of Colombia, I would like to nominate to the First Runner-Up Hall of Fame the four women from Colombia - Paola Turbay (1992), Paula Betancourt (1993), Carolina Gomez (1994) and Taliana Vargas (2008) - who each placed as first runner-up to Miss Universe. Although 3 of the 4 of them placed behind Miss Universes that I ultimately grew to like, on the night of the pageant; I'd have preferred each of them to the eventual winner. To this day, I'll take Paula Betancourt over Dayanara Torres, of whom I've never been a fan. (NT) -- Marylander, 14:01:06 06/01/09 Mon I would like to nominate Leah Laviano, first runner-up to Crystle Stewart, for bringing us The Lavianos and for making flat-chested women like me jealous. I'd also like to nominate Evelina Papadfsdoifudsaikhdsifu, first runner-up to Denise Quinones in 2001, for attaining the highest-available placement during the Puerto Rican Day Parade, I mean Miss Universe. And finally, I nominate Carolina Gomez, first runner-up to Sushmita Sen, for being genuinely excited for the winner, warming hearts everywhere. (NT) -- NewYorker, 22:23:46 05/31/09 Sun I'll nominate Kelly Anderson, Miss West Virginia USA 1RU to Mai Shanley in 1984. Ugh! (NT) -- Qban, 22:29:02 05/31/09 Sun Mai Shanley got her pageants mixed up-she thought she was running for Mrs America (NT) -- Andres, 23:42:26 05/31/09 Sun Maybe the better question to ask is, "What were the judges smoking?" As far as I know, Mai didn't bribe her way to the title. Was there something in the water? Mai just showed up and did her pageant schtick. It didn't work at Miss America but it did at Miss USA. (NT) -- Wayne, 10:16:15 06/01/09 Mon Here's what I think Wayne--Mai had a great interview.The judges loved her after that and highballed her the rest of the pageant. Though I love a top 10 interview, it should always happen after swimsuit so that a girl doesnt get an overblown ss score just because she had a good interview. (NT) -- Andres, 11:59:28 06/01/09 Mon Shilah Phillips.... If someone had given her a brush back stage she would have won....Her hair was a mess at finals and had she won, we would have had a Miss America crowned in lime green....The superbowl for woman is one of my favorite quotes. (NT) -- dessertdeb, 23:28:10 05/31/09 Sun oh how I wish Shilah would have won that year (NT) -- Andres, 23:41:21 05/31/09 Sun I was in Vegas that year. Shilah Phillips' hair was a mess ALL WEEK! In fact, it arguably looked better on Finals night than it did during prelims. That hair just looked ANGRY...LOL! (NT) -- Marylander, 10:00:16 06/01/09 Mon Shilah ROCKED it in swimsuit! In fact, her presentation was almost "Miss USA/Universeish", but I think Lauren edged her out in interview. I've seen the private interview dvd and Lauren came across a little more polished and professional. (NT) -- TNBoy, 11:37:01 06/01/09 Mon I'd like to nominate Jade Smalls, 1st RU to Heather French. Jade did everything right at that pageant, talented, articulate and passionate. Her platform much like Heather's was one that MAO had never had before, suicide prevention is not an easy subject to talk about but it's something that needs to be addressed. Also I concur about Cullen Johnson, the class and sheer joy she showed when Heather's name was announced as the winner, and she was just so happy to tell Heather that she won! Now that's class! (NT) -- *~~MISS CONGENIALITY~~, 13:15:08 06/01/09 Mon* I'm going to nominate Ronica Licciardello, first runner up to Miss NJ 2007, Amy Polumbo. After several years of trying in NJ and PA Ronica was a shoe-in for Miss NJ on her last year of eligibility. But, alas, Ronica was called first runner up. Only to suffer accusations of being a blackmailer when the whole embarassing internet photos scandal happened just weeks after the pageant. But Ms. Licciardello handled her self with grace and poise throught the whole ordeal. Even when there was aglimmer of hope that she would be moved up a notch and compete at Miss A and then they let Amy keep her crown. (NT) -- paul, 16:31:56 06/01/09 Mon Shilah Phillips - I thought Texas finally had another Miss America, I was shocked she didn't win. (NT) -- KDK, 16:50:41 06/01/09 Mon

Subject: HELP NEEDED - CAN YOU SEND ME A LIST OF QUESTIONS YOU WOULD ASK A TEEN CONTESTANT FOR PRACTICE INTERVIEWS... Computer crash last fall wiped out my 18 years of pageant 'stuff' along with lists of ?'s for practicing. HELP! Need ASAP!
Author: T-K [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:50:01 05/31/09 Sun THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR HELP! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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you can post here or send to me at T-K-@live.com (NT) -- T-K, 14:17:33 05/31/09 Sun 1)What is the best teacher-school or life experience? 2) Should the age of drivers be raised to 18? Why or why not? 3) Where is the one place you would take a visiting foreign exchange student to visit in your state and why? 4) Some studies claim students learn better when the classrooms are not co-ed. What do you think? (NT) -- Andres, 18:03:04 05/31/09 Sun T-K I can email you my list of questions that I use for both Miss and Teen if you would like. It's like 50 pages now. Also, you can join Justin Rudd's group and he email's 5 questions a week to you for practice sessions. Alot of my questions have come from there. Let me know and would be glad to send you what all I have. Good luck! (NT) -- Txpageantguy, 21:58:49 05/31/09 Sun Txpageantguy- Could you also email me that list? I would love to have it to help my daughter. (NT) -- MIPageantMom, 10:09:54 06/01/09 Mon I would be happy to do it for you! (NT) -- TXPAGEANTGUY, 15:21:46 06/01/09 Mon

Subject: Happy Birthday!
Author: TNBoy [Edit]	Date Posted: 22:04:39 05/31/09 Sun June 1: The Day of the Popular Eye June 1 people can usually be found either in the public eye or observing the latest modes and trends of society. Either way they are taken up with seeing or being seen in a social context. This does not mean that June 1 people are overly social beings. They may appear extroverted, in rare cases exhibitionistic, but such an external attitude often masks a personality that is isolated and lonely. Rarely will June 1 people admit to ignorance. They pride themselves on knowing a good deal about a wide cariety of subjects. They have a facility with languages and an aptitude for tasks requiring manual dexterity; those born on this day also know something of people and their needs and wants. Since those born on this day have a feeling for the value of things, they also make excellent shoppers and in general are shrewd at handling money. STRENGTHS: Visually perceptive, Shrewd, Fun. WEAKNESSES: Temperamental, Distracted, Impatient. Happy Birthday, Dayana! The year ahead: TODAY'S BIRTHDAY (JUNE 1) Your relationships will be refreshed this year. Some of you will form a new business with an old friend. A few of you could marry a former schoolmate. There will be an important development in your career in August. Family influences your choice of location in September -- you could visit or move to a new place then. Pisces and Virgo adore you. Your lucky numbers are: 30, 1, 22, 49 and 18. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Happy Birthday Dayana! Happy Birthday to me! I'm 34 today...June 1st is also Children's Day (NT) -- MissMe, 07:45:26 06/01/09 Mon Happy B-day, MissMe! Today is also National Go Barefoot Day, Whit Monday, Birthday - Marilyn Monroe (actress), Anniversary - CNN, Anniversary - Heimlich Maneuver, Admission Day (Kentucky), Admission Day (Tennessee), Independence Day (Samoa), and International Children's Day (China). (NT) -- TNBoy, 11:32:00 06/01/09 Mon Am I a bad person for wondering just exactly what International Children's Day in China means? lol (NT) -- Hawk, 11:52:13 06/01/09 Mon LOL! In China, schools usually hold activities such as camping trips or free movies on Children's Day to allow students to have fun, and children of civil servants might also receive small gifts from the government. Entrance ceremonies of the Young Pioneers of China (similar to Boy Scouts in the West) are usually held on June 1 as well. However on June 1, 2008 the day was made even more memorable, as many people remembered the children who died in the earthquake just a few weeks before. (NT) -- TNBoy, 12:32:49 06/01/09 Mon Well dang...now I feel bad for questioning the authenticity of a day in a country that hasn't had a fond past with female children, but thanks for the history lesson TN boy :) And the earthquake tragedy is so horrible. I've been getting CNN updates about the plane that is missing today in Europe. Unimaginable.. so upsetting. (NT) -- Hawk, 12:36:38 06/01/09 Mon Happy Birthday to the hottest woman on earth. (NT) -- I'm not a judge, But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, 14:29:15 06/01/09 Mon

Subject: Here's the picture from the Trump/Prejean post below (I hope).
Author: NE Queen [Edit]	Date Posted: 07:49:46 06/01/09 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: MISS ALABAMA JUDGES

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Mr. AL USA
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Date Posted: 18:54:27 05/31/09 Sun

Doris Hayes-Clark - Miss Washington 1980 and the first African-American to win a preliminary award and place in the Top Ten at the Miss America Pageant

Vernon DeSear - VP of Marketing and Business Development for the Manatee Healthcare System.

Rick Pruitt - Executive Director of the Miss Arkansas Pageant

Robert Radice - General Manager, Historic Tutwiler Hotel in Birmingham, Alabama

Terri Rinaldi-Evans - Miss Alabama 1960 and Top Ten Finalist in the Miss America Pageant

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Subject: MORE MISS TANZANIA UNIVERSE PICS (please don't delete)
Author: pageant fan [Edit]	Date Posted: 05:34:34 05/31/09 Sun courtesy of mrokim [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The winner is cute, but I love the runner up with the big pink disc earrings! (NT) -- Mr. AL USA, 10:26:04 05/31/09 Sun I agree, I would have chosen either of the runners-up before the winner, but big pink earrings is definitely the most striking. (NT) -- Meemaw, 12:35:13 05/31/09 Sun Ditto...winner is okay, but both of the runners-up are adorable!! (NT) -- Tiki Java, 18:26:10 05/31/09 Sun

Subject: From perezhilton.com
Author: yeesh. [Edit]	Date Posted: 15:00:22 05/31/09 Sun < img src = "http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/92/415x0/92893_miss-california-usa-executive-director-shanna-moakler-donald-trump-miss-california-usa-carrie-prejean-and-miss-california-usa-co-executive-director-keith-lewis-attend-a-press-conference-at-trump-tower-on-may-12-2009-in-new-york-city.jpg" > Very well-placed sources tells PerezHilton.com exclusively that The Donald is planning on throwing out the clauses in Carrie Prejean's contract that forbid her from making any unauthorized appearances and penning a tell-all book, while still holding her title as Miss California!!! This coming after Trump clearly stated on Larry King Live that Prejean would be held to her contract! How is that fair to the other Miss USA state titleholders???? We hear that the organizers for Miss California USA are fuming at the change in Prejean's contract, especially after the beauty queen began publicly endorsing the National Organization of Marriage. And the man responsible for the deal? Prejean's lawyer, Charles Limandri, also known as the General Counsel for NOM. Surprise, surprise! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Aw, man! Why didn't the picture post? (NT) -- I suck, sorry., 15:27:14 05/31/09 Sun This would, of course, not be surprising since The Donald has no scruples, moral or otherwise. He's probably manipulating behind the scenes to make sure USA wins Universe so Carrie Precious can become Miss USA and then the "World Fame Whore Tour" can commence. (NT) -- Wayne, 17:46:47 05/31/09 Sun

Subject: Vote for your favorite Miss Tennessee contestant(s)
Author: one vote per hour.... [Edit]	Date Posted: 09:26:00 05/31/09 Sun http://orig.jacksonsun.com/misstn2009/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Lots of pretty girls to choose from! Brooke Waddell is the obvious favorite (ghastly picture, though!), but I also like Miss Cordova Katie Moynihan, Miss City Lights Kayla Hockett , Miss Collierville Anna Humerickhouse and of course our Miss Pageant Central nominee Miss Nashville Victoria Green. (NT) -- Meemaw, 13:38:12 05/31/09 Sun I really do like the look of Miss City Lights. I'm not a USA girl but she reminds me of Crystle Stewart and Crystle was the first year I followed USA because I was so impressed with her class. (NT) -- Hawk, 17:44:23 05/31/09 Sun

Subject: Why isn't Miss Teen USA's photo at the top of the page
Author: ? [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:00:00 05/31/09 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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If I remember correctly, they don't put up either MAOT or Teen USA since they aren't considered one of the big 3 pageants. Makes sense, and there isn't alot of room on the top of the page without making it cluttered and overkill. Miss USA, Miss America, Miss Universe, & OUR VERY OWN Miss Pageant Central is all that is needed. LOVE ME SOME LILY!!!! (NT) -- Txpageantguy, 12:22:07 05/31/09 Sun That's right, we still allow discussion of both teen pageants, but neither are televised nor are they promoted particularly well by their respective organizations. In fact I have it on good authority Miss TUSA would have been dropped were it not such a big moneymaker for state directors. Personally I blame Katie Blair for causing the MUO to scrap their deal with the Hallmark channel and effectively reglegate the pageant to an afterthought. (NT) -- Meemaw, 12:46:49 05/31/09 Sun

Subject: So I've been watching sports competitons this morning on ESPN. When I got a pleasent surprise, Miss Georgia wa passing out gold medals to the winners of the competition. Great to see her there! Just wanted to share, she looked beautiful!
Author: Glitter Gal [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:01:43 05/31/09 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: The Official MISS TEEN Fantasy Camp
Author: Maureen [Edit]	Date Posted: 11:25:00 05/31/09 Sun This is going to be an incredible experience for those that attend! If you know of anyone that is interested, please have them email me at tag@san.rr.com [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Click in for more details... -- Maureen, 11:25:59 05/31/09 Sun One more page to check out! -- Maureen, 11:26:51 05/31/09 Sun

Subject: Why is Miss Universe's face not all over Madison Ave. I'm buying whatever she is selling.
Author: 20/20 vision [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:20:06 05/31/09 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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