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] Date Posted: 20:22:20 04/17/10 Sat [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
| [> Subject: No she didn't and believe me, we were shocked. Not to take away from the winner but I just don't get the Kansas winner at all. There were other things I didn't get like fitness award and evening gown. I guess that's pageantry, but from the audience there was a clear winner in Kansas and it was not the girl wearing the crown. OK gals had solid competition and it was hard to pick the winner. Good pageant, odd outcome that's for sure. | |
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Author: Midwest Mrs. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:10:34 04/19/10 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: unless you were in the interviews there is never a "clear" winner... I did FAB on stage one year but bombed my interview and everyone was shocked I didn't win/score higher... and frankly I didn't tell them either... (but I did support the winner!) | |
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Author: it's 50% interview!!! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:29:16 04/19/10 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Ummm Cydney did win interview or at least she got the award. I was an OK contestant and lets put it this way, most all of us were shocked too. Not to say Samantha wasn't cute, but she was certainly not the clear choice. There were some surprises on both sides of the contest, but none bigger than who won Kansas that's for sure. But it doesn't matter what we think as contestants or the audience. All that mattered was those 5 judges. | |
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Author: OK gal [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 17:53:30 04/19/10 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: I feel bad that she didn't win, but I competed with her and know that a loss will only make her focus and prepare more. I wouldn't be surprised when she comes back, if she does she'll win and be one to watch at nationals. | |
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Author: Sweetheart and big fan. Love ya!! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:01:03 04/19/10 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: I didn't know she won interview, sorry had not seen the results and awards yet... but with the mention system the person who wins interview doesn't always win the pageant, I've seen someone with interview and EG or SS and still not win the pageant, the awards are usually taken from from the first round, not the semi finals, someone can easily win all judges to get in a semi final but no judges to make top 5... | |
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Author: that's one of the down sides to the mention system [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:27:49 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Love love love Cydney. Good job ladies and congrats to the winners. | |
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Author: Mrs. CA [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:24:16 04/19/10 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Hello. I'm a future Mrs. contestant and I went to the OK/KS pageant to see what it's all about. I was surprised by KS choice, but I was also a bit surprised by OK choice as well. That scares me a bit. My friends and family all picked the same person to win in KS and then she didn't. We were a bit divided on OK. However, I guess what I don't get is that when someone is a stand out and they don't win, how is that possible? That's what concerns me. And from the posts on this board a lot of other people felt the same way. I guess I don't get how a contestant seems to be everyone's pick but they don't win? | |
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Author: Wondering what to make of this for my experience?? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:39:10 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Dear What to Make of this... while a number of people may have been divided keep in mind that the outcome came down to the judges. Perhaps they were divided... it could have been that they agreed with the half that thought the winner should have won. As a future Mrs. contestant, look at the experience. If you liked what the Director provided to the contestants as a whole... you need to jump on board. | |
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Author: It's a wonderful experience! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 07:08:15 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Thanks for the response. Here's the thing that I don't understand about pageantry in general and that makes me a bit nervous. It's a beauty pageant right? Well then we expect the one who is beautiful to win. I don't know how to make this sound right so it's probably going to come out all wrong and I mean no disrespect, but the KS winner wasn't the most beautiful. I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But when I watch pageants on TV you can generally tell who will win, and at least from what we observed in KS that didn't happen. Sooooo in trying to prepare myself I guess I feel if I've done everything right then it might not be enough. Yes the pageant was amazing and I do like the production so I am excited about that. | |
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Author: Still working on this in my head. Thanks for the feedback though. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 07:45:00 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: There are always head-scratchers, but in Mrs. America, what I have found, is that the most beautiful contestant does not win. At least not on the national level. That's not to mean the national winners weren't beautiful, but some of the most gorgeous contestants each year are up there clapping because the judges don't connect with them, or they're not approachable. They want a well-rounded, fit, pretty woman. But sometimes the most gorgeous women in the bunch doesn't have "it." Still there are always ones that we'll never understand, but we have to get over it and support them. | |
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Author: Congrats to Mrs. Kansas [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:32:29 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: I know exactly what you are talking about in terms of several pageants I have seen. KS and OK are not the ones I have seen, but I have noticed what you are talking about. After talking with a few of the gals who are the 1st runner-ups and such, it has become clear that sometimes the top contestant can lose it in the final ranking and the next in line suddenly gets the title. Time and again it has been a case where 3 judges rank one person #1 and the other gal may get a couple of the #1 votes from the other judges. So you would assume the contestant with the (3) #1 votes would win. Well, they can be tanked by even just one judge. Give her a #4 spot and you can find the 2nd place person will rise to the top. And so it feels a bit of a gamble. | |
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Author: Is there a way to change that? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:25:02 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: I know exactly what you are talking about in terms of several pageants I have seen. KS and OK are not the ones I have seen, but I have noticed what you are talking about. After talking with a few of the gals who are the 1st runner-ups and such, it has become clear that sometimes the top contestant can lose it in the final ranking and the next in line suddenly gets the title. Time and again it has been a case where 3 judges rank one person #1 and the other gal may get a couple of the #1 votes from the other judges. So you would assume the contestant with the (3) #1 votes would win. Well, they can be tanked by even just one judge. Give her a #4 spot and you can find the 2nd place person will rise to the top. And so it feels a bit of a gamble. | |
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Author: agree [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:53:59 05/01/10 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: I'm not sure how the America judging works. But if it's the case that a woman could be number one the whole way till the end and then loose on a final judge vote that seems very very unfair. Perhaps I need to reconsider doing America. Am I understanding what you said correctly? That some could win interview, swim suit, evening gown and then loose the pageant???? How is that possible or fair? | |
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Author: Now I'm really confused. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:08:56 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Is that how all Mrs. pageants work? Because I was also approached by the Mrs. United States director in my state and I was leaning torward America because I think it's a better and more reputable pageant, but the judging sounds screwy to me. | |
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Author: ???? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:11:07 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: the important thing to know when you enter any pageant, is exactly how it is scored, I like the mention system, and think it is very fair, and allows the most well rounded contestant to rise to the top. Each scoring system has it's drawbacks. but it is important to know how you are scores so that you can make the most out of your scores. | |
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Author: ... [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:42:14 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Ladies, why would you ever make a decision to enter a particular pageant based on what someone has written on a voy board. You need to do your own research of each system, call the directors, ask them about the scoring system and then make an educated decision on what is best for you. | |
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Author: Director [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:59:12 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Thanks again everyone. I was just using the Voy as another way to gather research. I know most of you ladies on here have been there and done that so I do use this as a good source of information. I actually just contacted Cydney on facebook and she was very helpful and humble in explaining to me some of my concerns. Also, the scoring thing now makes a bit more sense to me. I guess what I learned is that it will or won't happen when it's time for it to happen. I think I'm putting too much pressure on myself and I haven't even competed yet. I'm just worried about spending a lot of money, doing well, and then left wondering what happened. | |
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Author: thank you for all your comments. it does help. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:33:43 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: if you are a future Mrs Contestant that will be competing under Tracy Crist, you will not be disappointed! she is fabulous to work with and the ladies I have met in this system are amazing, and I've met several of the ladies from all of her states! and you are more than welcome to contact me on FB if you have any more reservations... | |
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Author: Sally Mesa [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:46:58 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Sally-are you coming back to Texas America this year? | |
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Author: just wondering. I saw you at TX US last year. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:05:08 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: according to her FB she is | |
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Author: friend [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:00:10 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Re: Hopefully I can help clear up the scoring questions. United States has judges give you a numerical number for each thing you are scored on, then the scores are added up to get the highest score/queen. America uses mentions, not numerical scoring. Therefore, you can get the most mentions to get to the top 5, but there is where the numbers come in. Judges are told to "rank" the top 5 by comparing you to each other. | |
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Author: Hope that helps. [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:14:18 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: my state US pageant used the mention system last year... each pageant is different you have to ask each director | |
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Author: unknown [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 10:48:54 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> Subject: Both America and U.S. use the mention system, just like the Miss USA pageant. The finalk ballot is based on each judge's personal opinion of what they saw from interviews leading up to on stage question. So, yes a lady that was leading in all categories until the final balloting can end up not winning. I also can tell you that the America system is not about pageant patties. You will rarely see a pageant patty win Mrs. America. Marmel wants the girl next door who is attractive and approachable. | |
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Author: .... [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:18:54 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: US at nationals does NOT use the mention system. And the state US pageants aren't supposed to be using it. | |
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Author: hmmm [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:36:50 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: My state uses mention in their U.S. pageant. | |
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Author: I thought that was the norm? [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 04:10:13 04/21/10 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I just gave up my state US title, and when I competed & this year, the pageant used numerical scores. Also, my state America pageant uses numerical scores with interview being 50% of the total. | |
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Author: I guess each state is different [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:50:16 05/01/10 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: Well if that's true that's not KS that's for sure. I found her to be awkward and shy. Either way, why are we still going on about this? It's over it's not going to change. So KS is a clapper at America big deal KS usually is. Hopefully Tracy will have better luck with TX than KS or OK. | |
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Author: Move on [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 11:33:13 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: All I can say is wow. Thank you to everyone who supported me in my quest for Mrs. Kansas. However, I must ask that those who question the outcome please refrain from bringing those concerns on this board. I can tell you that my experience at the Mrs. Kansas America pageant was AMAZING. Tracy and her staff did a professional job and I would recommend this pageant and any that Tracy runs to anyone considering doing a Mrs. pageant. Please remember that while some may not understand or like the outcome, there is a young woman who needs our support as she makes her way to Mrs. America. For the posters above, I am simply one state contestant in one state. If I am meant to be Mrs. Kansas America then it will happen in it's own time. I'm glad to have so many supporters, but please do not base a decision to enter a pageant based on the outcome of one. The judges selected the best contestant on that evening and Samantha will do Kansas proud. | |
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Author: Cydney. Go gettem Kansas!!! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 20:06:53 04/20/10 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> [> Subject: spoken like a true queen, your day WILL come and you will wear that crown beautifully | |
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Author: beautifully said [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 14:36:59 04/21/10 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: can someone post a pic of the winner? | |
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Author: curious [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:12:10 04/21/10 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| [> Subject: Cyd, that statement is why YOU are a true Queen and an amazing woman! This is the type of support I love to see. This is what should be happening between ALL women, but especially the Mrs. and Ms. contestants. I know it's difficult when we don't win, but we could all be so much better if we just supported each other! | |
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Author: Way to Cyd! - A fellow Mrs. US state '09!! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:29:11 04/26/10 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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