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Subject: We could easily be 3-0


Author:
Coffee
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Date Posted: Saturday, September 19, 07:36:37pm

Its funny, but I feel less down after a game where we were outplayed and beat than after two games that we outplayed both Nichols state and Monmouth and gave away the game both times. We have the talent... We had the game plan... We gave away both games.

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[> Subject: Re: We could easily be 3-0


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Dookane
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Date Posted: Saturday, September 19, 07:44:35pm

Agreed. I have this feeling that Duquesne just doesn't believe in its talent. Some teams refuse to lose. We just refused to win. We had the fire at Bucknell but it got snuffed out. This season is not over, but this team really needs to start believing in itself. Duquesne was a better team than both Nichols State and Monmouth. Maybe they can'r focus on the road.

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[> Subject: Re: We could easily be 3-0


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Phoenix Rising
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Date Posted: Sunday, September 20, 10:46:22am

Had a chance to watch the Monmouth game yesterday on Fox Sports Atlantic. First time that I have seen the Dukes in a few years. It looked to me that the Dukes have a lot of talent. They have a lot of speed, and I was impressed that the Dukes were able to hold their own and sometime dominate the line of scrimmage. It's a shame that the Dukes lost this game in which they thoroughly outplayed Monmouth over the last 3 quarters; hard to overcome 4 second half turnovers. It's a long season, and it's the coaching staff's responsibility to bring out the most in this talented group. The record will tell whether they succeed.

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[> Subject: Re: We could easily be 3-0


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Shoey
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Date Posted: Sunday, September 20, 01:26:57pm

Coffee- What was Dixon status for the game???

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[> [> Subject: Re: We could easily be 3-0


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Shoey
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Date Posted: Sunday, September 20, 01:46:12pm

Our QB play the last two games has been less than stellar

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: We could easily be 3-0


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Shaler Tom
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Date Posted: Sunday, September 20, 07:57:12pm

I am as confused about this situation as you are Shoey. I was able to see some of the practices this week and thought Connor looked very good, although Kevin looked good as well.
The games tell a different story. Kevin has been sacked 12 times and has 3 ints in 3 games. Alot of his balls are overthrown or high which tells me he's throwing off his back foot.
I'm not saying that Dixon would have fared any better but he did come off the bench and win the game vs Bucknell and almost did the same thing at NU if we make that field goal.
At least give the opposition something to think about!!!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: We could easily be 3-0


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Shoey
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Date Posted: Sunday, September 20, 09:47:25pm

TS- Thanks, I dont mean to be negative towards Rombach but if we are going to get to another level it is not going to be with a 5th year senior that we have seen the ceiling on his talent. We have two scholarship QB's (Mich St, Weber St.) guys that have alot of elgibility left. In my opinion if you are going to play a 5th year senior he had better be hands down the best QB on your team. If you lose with a 5th year QB and your other two dont get playing time........that is a double whammy to your program.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Perspective and Hope


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Duke from way back
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 07:43:39am

I remember how some last year wanted Dixon out and Rombach in. I realize the tools Dixon possesses and I definitely would like to see what he can do this year, a year older and hopefully wiser. The doctor has released him and he is not going to be 100% ever this year so give him some time now but keep in mind a few things: These last two games should not be on Kevin. Should he have even played against NS after that very serious concussion against Bucknell. Yes, he made some mistakes on Sat but he also made some beautiful throws. His percentage was again around 60% which is exceptional. He orchestrated some nice drives but this team has stalled in the red zone even when Dixon was in. We have a real red zone problem which the coaching staff needs to address. It was not Kevins fault that Dave Williams dropped a sure touchdown pass. He threw that ball 50-60 yards in the air and hit Williams in stride. Also, the two of them hooked up on a pass that David with his incredible athleticism almost turned into a touchdown but which resulted in a fumble and a turnover. Had he scored on those two plays and the Dukes won, we wouldn't be having this discussion. And he has not been given great protection which always ends up in turnovers. The pick six? Come on'--yes he overthrew the ball but---to quote Ken Wisnehut when James Harrison took it back for a score in the Super Bowl---something to the effect--"someone has to bring him down". The way our defense is playing if that kid was brought down when he should have been or when he was first hit, no touchdown, maybe a field goal. Every guy on the offense missed him. Those three plays could have made a huge difference in the outcome. Yes--I too would like to see Dixon (who, by the way, will have his kinks to work out and a rythm to try to establish) but Kevin Rombach is a pretty good I-AA QB. I wish he were little taller and had a little better feet when he gets in trouble but he throws a very catchable ball and has a fifth year senior brings something intangible to the table. Hell , he came back after last year--that should tell you something. No --I am not a family member or friend and quite frankly this Board has only been mildly critical of him but I just thought some perspective needs to be injected into the conversation and that is not say that he played great because he didn't. Let's all look at it objectively. On another note, cudos to the offensive line--isn't it great to have a running game? They are clicking and working together very well---Kuhns Kitna, Downey, Lehue (sp?) and Gill (and others)--now work on your pass protection. I also believe we should try to get the ball to our tight ends to mix it up a little bit--give the QB some shorter options. Our tight ends can catch and are athletic--not just blockers. And the defensive line? Wow to them and the linebackers--I never would have expected this after last year and with the change in coordinators. We might have the best group of starting LB's in the conference led by our All American candidate. Let's hope they can bring it all together and learn how to close the deal. They certainly have that potential. C'mon coaches--bring it out in them!!

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Shoey
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 08:53:31am

Duke from the way back- Mine is not a personal attack on Rombach...........the guys name could be anything. It is an overall look at how to build a program. I personally dont believe you start a 5th year senior if he is not hands down the best QB on your team. We are starting out with fewer scholarships and trying to bulid for the future (I know we are trying to win games now). Realistically our year is next year and having 2 younger QB's sitting the bench while not getting any experience dosent get you there. It's just an opinion and in no way an attack on anyone personally. He is obviously a capable QB but again I just dont think starting a Sr. and leaving your other two on the sidelines helps in the grand (unique) scheme of what is the goal of this program.

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Duke from way back
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 10:59:46am

Shoey----No argument with those points at all. I didn't think you were critical of KR really. Just had some thoughts on the subject.

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Duke from way back
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 11:15:46am

Shoey----did not mean to blur your point which is a good one and probably the right one regarding program building. I dont even think you were very critical of him but I heard some stuff off the board that was unfair and emotionally charged and thought another perspective should be offered. I am not even saying that he played great or that a change should not at least be considered but if a character kid like that takes the blame it sould be done in the proper context and he should also be given credit for the good things he has been able to do both this year and in his career here.

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Marquis
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 09:01:54am

This is a good bit of analysis. Romach, Dixon and Patterson all have the talent. The coaches must bring it out.

I'd start by swithing Loya back to quarterback/passing game coach. He really did a nice job developing Loebig and has a bit more experience... Neil is a great guy, but could do better switching and handling the recievers.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Perspective and Hope


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Shoey
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 01:51:56pm

Always a Duke- Agreed, I dont condone that type of attack either.

Marquis- Agreed I would like to see Dixon and Patterson play. we have seen the best and worst of Connor but he has been injured. Patterson brings a whole new dimension with the run/pass threat.

Coffe- thanks, I just thought something was wrong as Connor played well at Nichols and Bucknell and when he didnt get in at Monmouth I was concerned.

The Loya idea sounds very interesting.

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Shaler Tom
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 08:33:53pm

It is unfair to lay the blame on Kevin. He has done a fair job the past three games. That said, there is an old football adage that says if two players are even, you play the younger guys. Dixon and Patterson are the future at that position. If healthy, they have to play.
However, if Dixon is still hurting, then the staff made the right move.

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[> [> Subject: Re: We could easily be 3-0


Author:
Coffee
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Date Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 08:55:59am

Shoey,

I'm not sure of his official status, but according to Alex' interviews, he is still sore and recovering. I really don't have any inside track that I can rely on without pushing some friendships.

"Always a Duke" is the guy I'd send undercover to get vital information. I hear he is providing assistance to the Secret Service during the G-20 this week.

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