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Subject: Re: TO THE DUQUESNE RECRUITING CLASS OF 2012


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Judge Jack mcVay Jr
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Date Posted: Tuesday, February 07, 06:31:12pm
In reply to: Coffee 's message, "TO THE DUQUESNE RECRUITING CLASS OF 2012" on Sunday, February 05, 09:00:11am

Coffee, Haha, somebody besides those of us who played against them knows that Community actually had a decent local football team that included some pretty talented local high school players. We beat them my freshman year but it was a tough game and the Onyshko brothers ended up transferring from that Community team to Duquesne and playing pretty well for us! Thanks as always, Jack. PS the fan is better than any picture of me anyway! haha

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El Duque
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Date Posted: Wednesday, February 08, 10:11:56am

I don't know enough about the players or the programs from which they come to judge where this class stands historically. But on paper, the size of these linemen, the reputation of the QB, and the new receivers (including a good-sized TE) are really impressive. And I'd really like to see out program become one of the best FCS programs in the country.

For Judge Jack, those club teams on which you played were very talented for that level of football, something I attributed to the quality of talent in the Pittsburgh area. But what a transition this program has made, first to DIII, then to 1AA, then to FCS. I have always wondered what the program - and DU - would have been like if the HG Fathers would've had the foresight to keep the program after the War. Would we have been on a par with schools like ND and BC?

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Coffee
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Date Posted: Monday, February 13, 07:06:34pm

ED- Great observation. Duquesne could be a modern Boston College if their program wasn't cut. To be honest with you, the other thing that Duquesne should have done was to work with Mercy Hospital to put together a decent medical school to provide competition with UPMC.

I read that Pittburgh has the highest health care costs in the nation. This would have added another third to the campus and enhansed the university's reputation and recruitability... and maybe given enough room for some seats around the football field and room for more parking.

... not that the move should have been driven by the football program- It just seems odd that Mercy and Duquesne didn't form a Catholic Health are system like Detriot Mercy and other big city jointures.

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Judge Jack McVay Jr
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Date Posted: Monday, February 20, 10:13:12pm

Hey El Duque! I have often wondered "what if" and then realize that I wasn't in the HG Fathers shoes at the time and very well might have made the same decision!My Dad told me that the program had declined some by then but it still had some pretty good individual talent too!Thanks for the love re our teams and the talent level which I agree was pretty good and as you describe, and what I would charecterize as competetive DIII despite the club status.Always enjoy your posts!Thanks, Jack

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Coffee
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Date Posted: Thursday, February 09, 11:13:40pm

Judge Jack- Some day I'd like expand the blog on Duquesne's Football History. Then, see if it can be published as a book. There are enough newspaper articles from the 1920's on until the program was cut in the 50's but not a lot of info during the Club years into D-3. Has anybody written down the history of the team's re-birth?

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Judge Jack McVay Jr
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Date Posted: Monday, February 20, 10:23:07pm

Coffee, how are you my friend? I do agree with you and El Duque and think in hindsight what a bad decision it was to drop football but I wasn't there either! It definitely would be interesting to talk with someone who was there at the time like Dan Rooney who went to Duquesne to play football like his Dad but then it was dropped! I think a book is an excellent idea and would be glad to collaborate but the first two guys to talk to about the rebirth would be Sam Costanzo and Coach McCann! Thanks as always, Jack

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