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The Roswell incident - a crashed governmental space capsule with children as Guinea pigs -- Knut Holt, 05:17:58 07/15/16 Fri [1]

The Possible Truth About The Roswell Incident

The object that crashed during the Roswell incident was probably an experimental space capsule carrying involuntary humans as Guinea pigs. The capsule was lifted by balloons and possibly by rocket motors around the edge of it nearly into space, and this was done as an early event in the American space program.

There is a historic incident in USA from 1947 that many believe to be an episode of a crashed alien spaceship, while the government holds it was only a wrecked weather balloon, the Roswell incident.

According to the well-known history one or more alien spaceships with crew crashed outside the town Roswell in New Mexico in 1947. There is several versions of the history that point to more than one crash over a period in this area and these versions seem to have been blended together in the history currently told. According to the history some civilians saw the crashed vehicles and dead alien beings inside the ship. They reported it to the authorities, and a military unit came and transported the material away to a nearby base. At the base one also performed autopsies of the alien beings, an event that was witnessed by several persons.

The military at first issued a public report that an alien ship with crew had crashed, but soon thereafter this report was withdrawn, and after several attempts of explaining the incident away, the authorities stuck to a dummy explanation about the crash of a weather balloon. It is obvious that something more complicated and much more interesting than the crash of a weather balloon had occurred. The number of independent witnesses telling detailed accounts, including descriptions of advanced technology, and the original news bulletin from the military clearly show that something quite extraordinary had happened. But the crashed object was probably not an alien spaceship, Here is the most probable explanation:

The things that crashed were one, or several, disk-shaped experimental space capsules, that were used in an early secret part of the American space programs to investigate both technological approaches and the reactions of humans during travel in space. Because the program was secret, the capsule did not have any marks of identification.

In the capsules there were a number of humans used as involuntary Guiana pigs. The people used were children and teenagers taken from mental hospitals or institutions for handicapped kids. The type of humans chosen for the experiment were mostly in good health physically and mentally, except that they were mentally retarded and suffered from some genetic abnormality that resulted in short growth. The government possibly regarded these individuals as the most easy to get hold of, the most easy to control and there were little chance that they could come out with a history the public would believe afterwards. By using short-grown individuals, one also needed a smaller capsule and less material for the experiments.

The capsule were lifted so high up in the sky as possible, to the near edge of space itself with balloons. It is even possible that they were lifted even further with rocket motors around the edge of the capsule. Then the capsules were let fall and descend to ground in parachutes.

During this flight the physical and mental reactions of the individuals were monitored to get experimental data about the human reactions to flight in space, and it was the plan to examine them thoroughly after landing. It is probable that several more such experiments with involuntary children or teens were conducted, that happened to be successful, and that one managed to keep secret.

For the crashed capsule the experiments got wrong so that the capsule got astray and crashed because the parachutes did not work well either. The crashed and partially destroyed capsules with the humans inside were found by some civilians and taken care of by military troops that were not aware of these secret experiments. They thought they had found a crashed alien spaceship with alien crew. The dwarf-like anatomy of the human Guiana pigs added to that confusion. The part of the military that took care of the material at the first place, sent out a public announcement that a crashed spaceship with aliens had been retrieved, and even performed autopsies of the supposed crew.

But after a while the misunderstanding was discovered and the units responsible for the experiments took over. Then they sent out several versions of denial and dummy explanations as part of the cover-up. The dummy explanation they at last settled upon is that of a crashed weather balloon,

Since then a massive mythology around the incident has been built up, a mythology that the government denies, but still helps the cover-up of the real truth. Also those caring for the mythology do not want the truth to be revealed, because they exploit it economically.

Apart from the many witnesses a certain movie depicting the autopsy of one of the beings was made. The filmed autopsy is false. Still the movie supports the explanation give here in a special way. The alien being subjected to autopsy does not resemble an alien as people usually thinks about them, which would be the natural case in such a faked movie. Instead it resembles a human with some kind of dwarf syndrome. This suggests that the people that made the film had got information from somebody that had witnessed such an autopsy and that the person laying on the autopsy table was a human with such a handicap.

It is obvious that one must have done a long series of experiments with space capsules and rockets before the first official space travel took place, and highly probably some of these would have failed in this way and the failure been witnessed.

Also the American space program did not begin from scratch, but was built upon a former German rocket engineering program conducted by the Nazi regime, which makes it probable that experimental space capsules were made ready for test already in 1947, and the capsules used might even have been retrieved from Germany. The scientists participating and leading the American program were also for the most parts German scientists relocated to USA by the Paper Clip ordeal. It seems probable that these scientists would perpetrate their routine of using involuntary human Guiana pigs.

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Knut Holt is an internet based consultant and marketer focusing on the health field. He also has the hobby of investigating mysterious events. At his web-site you can find health advices, training supplements, natural products to enhance sexual pleasure and potency, and natural drugs against common diseases.

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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[> Re: Gary Snapp -- Bethany Johnson, 21:20:31 07/09/13 Tue [1]

That is possible reguarding the Agent Orange and my dad's health issues. I do remember when he came home because of the plane malfunctions he was upset that he wasn't able to go to California. I am glad that he was able to get together with you while he was still with us. My father was a great man, brother, son and a supportive and loving father that is missed every moment of every day.


>I and your dad had several meetings and had a great
>friendship together . I didn't realize that he lived
>in Lafeyette Ind till 3 years befor he past. We
>attempted to go to Calif. reunion but had plane
>problems (landing gear wouldn't retract ) thus we had
>to return to Indy again and tried to get a flight out
>to Calif. No luck though so we went back home . Gary
>and had met here in Marion Ind as well as in lafeyette
>several times. I often think about him as one would a
>brother. Now I wonder I recently have been diagnosed
>with 'Agent Orange' and have had a heart attack and a
>severe stroke , and now renal problems (kidney
>functions). They told me I have Istemic heart disease,
>caused by agent orange at 70-80% . I now often wonder
>if Gary had this causing this to his health, as we do
>now. Most all the handlers are having health issues
>due to the fact we were exposed several time in
>1966-1969. Once they sprayed the whole southend of
>DaNang during TET , and it awakened us all at our
>'Hooch' and were gagging and choking and had burning
>eyes and throats and made some sick. This stuff was in
>the air and on plants and trees almost every place
>that we may have been during our tour . but no one
>knew what it was or what it could or would do to us
>some day. Now we now!. Please send me an Email some
>it's above. Take care and God Bless Jerry

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Looking for Handlers -- Greg Dunlap, 19:53:45 11/07/07 Wed [3]

Looking for anyone that served with the 366th SPS K-9 at Da Nang during the Vietnam war era.

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[> Re: Looking for Handlers -- Osuna, Damian H. (cool), 19:15:24 12/03/10 Fri [1]

>Looking for anyone that served with the 366th SPS K-9
>at Da Nang during the Vietnam war era.

I served at Da Nang in the AF K9. Sept., 1972-Mar. 29, 1973. My dog was Spartacus. When I got on the C130, there were NVA officers takin our pics

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[> [> Re: Looking for Handlers -- Thomas L Brooks Jr. SGt, 20:06:40 01/12/13 Sat [1]

>>Looking for anyone that served with the 366th SPS K-9
>>at Da Nang during the Vietnam war era.
>
>I served at Da Nang in the AF K9. Sept., 1972-Mar. 29,
>1973. My dog was Spartacus. When I got on the C130,
>there were NVA officers takin our pics
I was there then. Dog was Rebel

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[> Re: Looking for Handlers -- George (Woods), 05:52:44 04/15/13 Mon [1]

My brother - Paul R. Woods - was a sergeant when he was assigned to the 366th SPS K-9 unit at Da Nang during the Vietnam War Era. He was stationed there from 12/29/1966 - 12/29/1967. An inquiring mind - myself - is asking.

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Process of a VA Home Loan -- Tommy, 13:40:49 03/13/13 Wed [1]

This is off topic but I just trying to spread the word to all Veterans or Military Personnel that there are services available to help them get approved for a mortgage or short sale.

http://vahomeloancenters.org

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My Contact -- Michael Owen or Mike (Thank God I'm still here), 19:36:16 10/02/09 Fri [5]

In country between April 72 and March 73, haven't had any contact with anyone. Hope the best for everyone!

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[> Re: My Contact -- Osuna, Damian H. (cool), 19:07:57 12/03/10 Fri [1]

>In country between April 72 and March 73, haven't had
>any contact with anyone. Hope the best for everyone!
Hey Owen, I served with you. Dee here. what you up to brother. Welcome home. My home is Roswell, NM. Workin as a contract aircraft mech. Fixin to head out to Chihuahua, Mex. What you up to?

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[> Re: My Contact -- RIck Dunn, 03:14:35 06/09/11 Thu [1]

>In country between April 72 and March 73, haven't had
>any contact with anyone. Hope the best for everyone!
HI MIke Remember me ? Still in Texas ? Thought of you often and together at the Bomb Dump on a cold raining nite with a light all unit for heat

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[> Re: My Contact -- Damian Osuna (sup), 20:12:43 07/03/11 Sun [1]

>In country between April 72 and March 73, haven't had
>any contact with anyone. Hope the best for everyone!

What's up Owen, This is Osuna. served with you at Da Nang. Hope life has been good to you. I'm in San Antonio, TX working for Boeing.
Drop me a line.
Peace
Out

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[> Re: My Contact -- Barney Merrill, 16:08:20 01/25/12 Wed [1]

>In country between April 72 and March 73, haven't had
>any contact with anyone. Hope the best for everyone!

Hey Mike....

I was there from Mar72 to Feb73 when they closed everything down.....sent all our dogs off to Siagon to the SVN K9.

Hope everything been well for you Brother!

E-Mail anytime if you like.....put K9 in the heading as I don't get in to my e-mail as often as I should and I'll spot that heading before any others!

Take Care,

Barney

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[> Re: My Contact -- Thomas L Brooks Jr. SGt (Ok), 20:00:09 01/12/13 Sat [1]

>In country between April 72 and March 73, haven't had
>any contact with anyone. Hope the best for everyone!
I was there at Da Nang from Dec 29th 1971 to Dec 1972 Dog Handler my dog was Rebel.

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Danang, 1968 366TFW, 480TFS. -- Crew Chief Sgt. Richard H. Upchurch, F-4D, CV-759, 16:58:18 10/01/12 Mon [1]

I just want to thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for all of the protection during TET 68 and all through the yrs. anyone was there in the Nam. You guys are the one's who really were in harms way and I am eternally grateful. I know you guys miss you best friends, your dogs, and I hope at least some of you got to bring them home eventually, they were the real hero's along side of you all.

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STATIONED @ DAB 66-67 -- PAUL TALBOTT, 19:21:10 01/11/12 Wed [1]

Stationed @ DAB from Nov 66 to Nov 67. E-4 with the 6924th Security Sqdn. We were often mistaken for Security Police Sqdn! Was there for the big rocket attack of 15 July 67, but missed Tet and the bomb dump explosion. Our ops site and antenna field was on the west side of the runway in the middle of the USMC area. Our barracks were in Camp DaNang, 2 were destroyed in the 15 July 67 rocket attack. Great web site!

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Looking for Pat Handlon -- Warren "Charlie" Weaver (WEAVER), 11:54:35 12/26/11 Mon [1]

I am looking for Patrick Handlon, dog handler at Danang 1967.

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DaNang 1960 and 1961 -- Betty Donnerstag, 21:05:53 12/11/11 Sun [1]

I'm trying to locate anyone that was at DaNang Airfield in 1960 and 1961. My husband Steve Donnerstag was in the Marines and was sent TDY. We can't find any record of this. The VA will only accept a Buddy Letter from someone that was there with him to approve his claim for heart disease, diabetes and hypertension. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Can you identify markings? -- Phil Krug, 13:34:33 10/01/11 Sat [1]

I recently purchased a plastic machete cover. It was dated 1968. It has majic marker on it that says "KILO8" really KIL8 the O has another circle under it to form an 8. Does KILO8 have any significance? This is from someone who has tons of respect and admiration of you guys.

Thanks again

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[> Re: Can you identify markings? -- Greg Dunlap, 11:32:59 10/17/11 Mon [1]

Could have been almost anything. Probably the post or locker it was kept at. Of course it may have some other sinister meaning also


>I recently purchased a plastic machete cover. It was
>dated 1968. It has majic marker on it that says
>"KILO8" really KIL8 the O has another circle under it
>to form an 8. Does KILO8 have any significance? This
>is from someone who has tons of respect and admiration
>of you guys.
>
>Thanks again

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Agent Orange -- Jerry Ross (Spanky), 14:45:06 03/13/11 Sun [1]

Hi Guys .. Have been through the gambit with the VA doctors and specialist (Urologist& Cariology &nurology) and have come to the diagnosis of Istemic heart disease, this is the cause of Heart attack and stroke in 2004 &2005 ,and now kidney problems and was aligned with Agent Orange exposure at possibly 75-80% dissablilty. I've had to all but stop working , doing it part time and things aren't going to well in the finance dept. But hopfully that could change , I sent everything that was required and all from the Dr's' that proved what happened was from this factor. I highly as well as implore you all to get your selves checked and diagnosed if there is any thing present in your systems. I probably put this off to long myself , I have felt like crap for the last 5-7 years and look what it caused.and I don't think it's done yet.I have gone thru all my pictures of "DIRK" - 1168F and wonder if he had any kind of effects from this stuff , God I hope not. Though being as mean as cats&$%@t as I am, it will take alot more than this to slow me down. Take care and GOD BLESS you all and to all our troops overseas. Jer

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[> Re: Agent Orange -- Ken Maddox (ekmaddox@aol.com), 09:33:03 04/11/11 Mon [1]

Jerry,
I know how you feel. I have had stamina and energy problems for years.
In 2004, I was diagnosed as having had several "Silent" heart attacks. (Dr. and I prior to this blame it on Acid reflux). Dec. 2004 I had 5 bypasses, and received an implanted Pace Maker and Defibrillator device. (Had the ICD replaced last Apr. 2011).
I have an appointment with a VA rep. 4/14/2011). A friend of mine informed me that, effective Aug. 2010, Heart disease is now presumed to have been caused by Agent Orange or other herbicide.
I like you have been unable to work for several years, and had trouble with stamina several years before that.
Hope you are now receiving the benefits you have earned.
Yours,
Ken Maddox

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"Doc" Ted M. Richardson, DVM -- Erin West, 21:10:25 03/29/10 Mon [1]

I am looking for information, photos, stories about my father. He served as a veterinarian 1968-69 at Da Nang with the 366th. There are a couple of photos on your site featuring a farewell party for him. Thank you so much for including him on your Wall of Heroes. He has been gone for a number of years now (1983). My sisters would appreciate any information at all.
Thank you so much for your service to your country,
Erin West

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Searching for 366th Comrade -- Malcolm Leath (Smiley Face), 09:00:54 03/20/09 Fri [1]

Looking for buddy named Grover Cleveland. We trained at Cannon AFB and served in 'Nam around DaNang and Monkey
Mtn. Reply to this email address.

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[> Re: Searching for 366th Comrade -- Charles Monroe (DaNang 11/66 to 11/67), 21:41:46 02/18/10 Thu [1]

Just SPS.11/66-11/67
When were you there?

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Things that go bump in the night! -- Jon Hemp (Welcome Home!), 16:49:09 01/17/10 Sun [1]

After forty years, we still find each other in the dead of night! Just recently touched base with Greg Dunlap. I had to tell him just how totally cool your web site was. Somebody has put in a lot of long hours and hard work. The good web sites don't happen by accident. I'm an old 377th K9 Dawg from Tan Son Nhut, 68-69. I felt compelled to Welcome all of you guys home. We'll swap internet web links. May you take your own sweet time!
Jon Hemp n' Sarge 46X4

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Thank You -- Steven G. Luz, 15:41:25 10/20/09 Tue [1]

I'd like to thank everyone for visiting the 366th SPS K-9 web-site. Originally Vance McCrumb had the 366th K-9 site and because of his work load allowed me to begin a new site for our unit. He was gracious enough to supply us with a list of the K-9 handlers from the unit and from that list I was able to locate about 100 handlers from 1965 to 1970. My objective was to have a site with as many photos of the guys as possible and I believe the objective has been met, if not exceeded. Of course, this web-site wouldn't have come to fruition without the extraordinary computer skills of Greg Dunlap. If left to my computer skills, this web-site would have been a blank page. Again, thanks for coming aboard and if you need help locating a brother handler, feel free to contact and I'll see what I can do.

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agent orange claim -- robert bedford (happy), 11:16:04 08/26/09 Wed [1]

hi da nang k-9..handlers..can any one help me with provin to the va i was in da nang 1966 to 1067 with my best friend hilda qe 47...i filed a agent orange claim with va in phoneiz az over a year ago..they want to see my orders that sent over there..sorry ant got no records 45 yrs ago,, any one know where you can get something that will make them happy!

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San Antonio reunion -- Glenn Goodman, 11:55:20 11/15/08 Sat [1]

Thanks to all who attended. I had a great time and saw guys for the first time in 41yrs.

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[> Everyone Dog Handler's are finally getting their day!!!! -- Bethany Johnson (exstatic), 06:01:56 02/13/09 Fri [1]

My dad(Gary "Snapper")was a dog handler in Da-Nang and this would have made him so proud!!!
For Immediate Release
February 4, 2009 Governor Crist is set to make Florida the first state in the Union, to declare March 13 as K9 Veterans Day A nation-wide effort, with roots in Jacksonville Beach, Florida, is working to get the entire country to recognize March 13 as K9 Veterans Day. And Florida will now truly take the lead on this honorable mission, as Governor Crist is set to declare K9 Veterans Day for the entire state. Last year Mayor Peyton made Jacksonville the first city to declare such a thing, and the group is hopeful that Florida will also have its Congress people lead the way for the national recognition, of all the dogs, of all our wars. And because of the current war on terror, such dogs as Customs Dogs, Search and Rescue Dogs, Border Patrol Dogs, Police Dogs, Secret Service Dogs, and many more will be included in the recognition. This then will be a memorial to their service annually, as they too served, bled, and died. Dogs have served with honor throughout the history of our Countrys birth and growth, and have served at many jobs in all of our wars. However, there was never an official K9 Corps until March 13, 1942. Hence the effort to create March 13 as K9 Veterans Day. Doing this honors the dogs for their selfless service, while avoiding any objections one may have if dogs were truly included in the human Veterans Day. To this day dogs are serving daily in Florida, and Coast Guard dogs helped to guard the beaches way back during WW II. And Joe White, who launched the effort, lives in Florida, so he feels it only right that Florida lead the way on this, letting everyone know that the state honors all its Veterans. And thanks to Mayor Peyton, and Governor Crist, Florida is apparently on a mission to get this done. Hopefully other cities and states will follow Floridas lead, and proclaim K9 Veterans Day for their area. Joseph J.
White
www. k9veteransday. org
904-241-6051
K9veteransday@aol.com

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hello -- Osuna, Damian H. (all smiles), 19:36:48 06/19/08 Thu [1]

Hi Guys, just thought i would drop in and say hello. I've been in the aviation industry for about 30 yrs now. (GI Bill). Glad to see this site.
K-9 rules

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Up date on Jimmy (Clem) Gifford -- Al Watts, 05:36:56 05/18/08 Sun [1]

Jimmy call me yesterday and stated that he was at home, and is doing great. He is still sore, but is up walking around a little!

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Thanks for all of your suport -- Jimmy (CLEM) Gifford, 18:25:36 05/17/08 Sat [1]

I just want to say thanks to each and everyone of you. For your calls and suport means a lot. One can work and gain a lot of materal things in life but they fall far short of true friendships, life long friendships. Don't miss your anuell checkups and keep safe.
Jimmy (CLEM) Gifford

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Jimmy (Clem) Gifford -- Al Watts, 15:25:39 05/15/08 Thu [1]

Troops: Just got back from visiting Clem at the VA Hospital, here in Shreveport, LA.! He came through his surgery just fine and is doing well, but he still doesn't know, when he will get released too go home. He said to tell all hello! He is in room 8W16, his cell phone# is 318-447-5447. Give him a call, I know, that he would enjoy hereing from everyone of you dog handlers.

Al Watts
TOP DOG 45 65-66
6252nd APS & 366th SPS K-9

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Reb - AO 14 -- Wayne McGinnis, 11:49:01 02/23/08 Sat [1]

Looking for handlers,prior to Joe Bartlet,before 3/70 for Reb AO14,at Danang,366th security police k-9.

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photos of dogs for war dog exhibit -- Jo-Anne, 17:25:55 01/06/08 Sun [1]

Hi
Anyone interested in submitting the photos of their dogs for a war dog exhibition please contact me at the above email address, or email photos there. I am working on two exhibits to honor the war dogs. I will explain more if emailed. Thank you. warmest wishes to all of you.

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V.A. Mill Bill -- Jimmy (CLEM) Gifford, 18:34:39 12/16/07 Sun [1]

Hi All
A must for all enrolled in the VA system. Check it out. It got me out of real finanical bind when I couldn't get to the VA hospital. Go to ( va mill bill ) with your search engin. Click on ( EMERGENCY CARE IN NONE VA FACILITIES ). Today, I don't leave town without my copy of (VA Pamphlet 80-05-01 P94663. You can get one at your local VA center or hospital. For more VA information go to --http://www.va.gov/
Take Care
Jimmy (CLEM) Gifford

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Happy Veterans Day -- Greg Dunlap, 07:41:28 11/11/07 Sun [1]

To everyone who served, not only at Da Nang, a Happy Veterans Day greetings to each and every one of you.

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Sidney James, Wally Brundage, Clarence DeDecker -- Greg Dunlap, 14:15:18 11/09/07 Fri [1]

Sidney and Wally, you guys read this get ahold of me. Clarence, we both handled the same dog, Blackie 129X, get ahold of me, I want to see any pictures you have of him.

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