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Subject: What is a Garrison Belt?


Author:
Stan
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Date Posted: 14:27:28 09/12/17 Tue

Because garrison belts are frequently mentioned in posts dealing with corporal punishment, I thought I'd try to shed some light on what they're all about.

However, a picture's worth a thousand words. So, for those readers who are totally unfamiliar with garrison belts, I recommend you go to Google Images, do searches on "garrison belt", "basketweave belt", and "Sam Browne belt" and view the photos displayed there before reading the rest of this post.

First, a few general comments: Garrison belts are usually categorized as uniform belts or work belts. Though most commonly associated with police officers and security guards, they are also worn in various government and private service jobs, such as postal employees and repairmen. In World War II, they were part of the standard US Army dress uniform. And ironically, during the rebellious 1960s, just about anyone wore a garrison belt as a "casual belt".

Now, I'll attempt to explain the term "garrison belt" by breaking it down into minute details:

(1) Belt Width - I believe that when most people refer to a garrison belt, they have in mind a belt that is 1-3/4" wide. Actually, many manufacturers of garrison belts use the same term when referring to similar belts of a different width such as 1-1/2".

(2) Belt Color - Most people think of garrison belts as being only black in color, but they have also come in various shades of brown. Brown garrison belts were more common in the past than they are now. I have a theory why brown garrison belts have declined in popularity. County sheriffs, especially in southwestern desert states, most frequently wear tan-colored uniforms. And they used to wear brown leather accessories (including belts) with those uniforms. I suspect that the popularity of the TV program "Chips" (California Highway Patrol) demonstrated that tan uniforms can look at least as attractive with black leather accessories as with brown. Perhaps, brown leather accessories (just like brown shoes) were subsequently considered to be unfashionable, motivating many sheriff departments to switch from brown leather to black leather for their uniforms.

(3) Belt Finish - I imagine most people think of garrison belts as having a plain leather finish, but they are also made with a "basketweave" finish, which is most commonly associated with law enforcement. A basketweave finish is a raised design stamped into the leather giving the appearance of a weave. Much less common than either are garrison belts made with a glossy (patent-leather) finish. The only time I ever saw anyone wear a garrison belt with a glossy finish as part of their uniform were MPs when I was in the US Army.

(4) Belt Buckle - To quote a post by a Ron S. dated February 5, 2006 on the website www.xdtalk.com, he hits the nail squarely on the head when he states, referring to garrison belts, "The thing that is distinctive is the buckle". The only inaccuracy in the post, and it's minor, is when he says "the buckle is square." Garrison belt buckles (for 1-3/4" wide belts) are 2-1/4" high and 2" wide, which, in my geometry book, makes them technically "rectangles". Admittedly, they give the impression of being square. He goes on to describe the unique way the belt attaches to the buckle which I paraphrase as follows: The inner end of the belt is attached to the vertical crossbar in the middle of the buckle, while the outer end of the belt passes under one side of the buckle, over the vertical crossbar, and then under the other side.

One additional comment about buckles: Garrison belt buckles are generally silver-colored these days. When brown garrison belts were more common, the buckles for them were usually gold-colored.

(5) Creased Edges - One thing I've seen on all belts I call garrison belts, but which I've rarely seen mentioned, is the existence of creased edges, that is, 2 shallow grooves running the full length of the belt. Those grooves are parallel to the top and bottom edges of the belt and are located about 1/8" from either the top or the bottom edge. These creased edges add to the distinctive appearance of a garrison belt. I don't consider a belt that lacks these creased edges to be a true garrison belt.

(6) Belt Keeper - Garrison belts are almost always sold with a leather belt keeper even though, because of the buckle's unique design, the outer end of the belt would probably remain flat even without the keeper.

(7) Variable Details - Although garrison belts are fairly standard in design, there are a few details which might vary:

(a) The outer tip of the belt may be either tapered to a point midway between the top and bottom edges, or it may be rounded forming a half-circle. The rounded tip seems to be an older style.

(b) The holes in the leather for the buckle's prong may be either circular or elliptical. Elliptical holes seem to be an older style.

(c) In the past, the inside surface of garrison belts (the part not visible when worn) was always tan in color. But, more recently, I've noticed that the leather of many garrison belts seems to be dyed black all the way through. This process is referred to as "drum dyed". So now, the inside surface is often black.

(8) Primary Use - To hold up one's pants. This may seem obvious, but I bring it up because there seems to be some confusion between the terms "garrison belt" and "Sam Browne belt". Ignoring historical derivations, I believe the most common current usage for both terms is as follows:

A garrison belt is basically a pants belt. That is, it is threaded through the belt loops of one's pants, whereas a Sam Browne belt is what most people loosely refer to as a holster belt, a gun belt, or perhaps, more accurately, a utility belt. The Sam Browne belt is not threaded through belt loops but rests on the officer's hips. A police officer's gun holster, baton, handcuffs, and numerous other accessories are all attached to his Sam Browne belt.

Sam Browne belts are generally 2-1/4" wide and may have either a plain leather or basketweave finish. The buckle is rectangular and is about 2-7/8" high and 1-7/8" wide. The buckle has 2 prongs, rather than one. And the buckle doesn't function like most belt buckles. Most belt buckles are attached to the inner end of the belt. Not so with a Sam Browne belt where the buckle may be attached, via the prongs, to any pair of holes in the belt. This allows the belt to be adjusted for different waist sizes. There are 2 curved metal hooks on the inner end of the belt which catch onto the vertical crossbar in the middle of the buckle. The officer's Sam Browne belt is attached to his pants (garrison) belt by means of leather keepers which wrap around both belts, and the ends of the keepers snap together. Since a lot of weight is hanging from the Sam Browne belt, and the Sam Browne belt is attached to the officer's pants belt, it is important that the pants belt be sturdy too. That is why garrison belts are wide and made of fairly stiff leather.

(9) Secondary Use - To be used when one's pants are down as a disciplinary instrument. I have read countless testimonies by people on the Internet that their dad's garrison belt was an effective spanking instrument. However, that needs to be qualified. When a garrison belt is relatively new, it is generally quite stiff and does not make the best spanking instrument. It is only after the belt has become well-worn and flexible that it makes an effective (and memorable) "educational aid".

For additional information about garrison belts and my own preferences regarding them, see my post titled "Shopping For A Garrison Belt".

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[> Subject: Re: What is a Garrison Belt?


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Stan
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Date Posted: 14:39:41 09/12/17 Tue

GARRISON BELTS, SAM BROWNE BELTS, AND THE MEN WHO WEAR THEM: An essay in photos and words

Click on the links below to see the images referred to in the text.

DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNIFORM BELTS

(1) 1-3/4" wide plain-leather garrison belt

Plain-leather garrison belts have been worn as "pants belts" by law enforcement officers and by many actors in TV and movie westerns. The main difference is that, with law enforcement officers, their garrison belt is usually hidden (except for the top edge of the buckle) underneath their Sam Browne belt, while with western actors, their garrison belt is usually totally visible because their gun belt is resting lower down on their hips.

https://image.rakuten.co.jp/mavazi/cabinet/acce01/aker001_img001.jpg

(2) 1-3/4" wide basketweave garrison belt

Basketweave garrison belts have been mainly worn as "pants belts" by law enforcement officers.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/863/863001.jpg

(3) 2-1/4" wide basketweave Sam Browne belt

Sam Browne belts have been mainly worn as "duty belts" by law enforcement officers to hold their gun holster, their baton, and other essential equipment. Nowadays, so much equipment is attached to their Sam Browne belt that often the only part of it that is still visible is the large metal buckle.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7462/26382254574_abd6362083_b.jpg


TV AND MOVIE WESTERN ACTORS WEARING GARRISON BELTS

As a teenage baby boomer, I grew up watching the so-called "adult westerns" on TV. The stars in those westerns substituted as male role models for my father who was absent due to divorce. I looked on those TV cowboys as father figures. It didn't escape my notice that most of them wore garrison belts. And I would envision them taking off their wide leather belt and punishing me with it whenever I got out-of-line, just like any other responsible dad. At that time, I could only imagine what the sting of a well-worn garrison belt would feel like when wielded by a strong masculine hand.

(4) Clint Eastwood and Eric Fleming in "Rawhide"

If you don't recall Eric Fleming by name, I'm sure you'll remember his most memorable lines: "Head 'em up! Move 'em out!" If you don't recognize Clint Eastwood, you didn't grow up on this planet.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fe/5d/1c/fe5d1ce476ea2cce000f466268dfc4d1.jpg

(5) Clint Walker in "Cheyenne"

http://2lin3i1bbign2l2t392v1pxd.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ClintWalker2.jpg

(6) Lee Majors in "The Big Valley"

Lee Majors played the character Heath Barkley.

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/c433697d1183c083f34059bba9153356bd61975e.pjpg

(7) Heath Barkley endures the lash.

Those unfamiliar with "The Big Valley" may be interested in learning that Heath's manly back felt the sting of the whip several times during the course of that TV series.

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/11/86/28/11862897_ori.jpg

(8) Glenn Ford in "The Fastest Gun Alive"

Some guys wear a garrison belt better than others, and I think Glenn Ford looked very manly wearing his.

https://myfavoritewesterns.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-fastest-gun-alive-6.jpg


THREE WAYS WESTERN ACTORS WORE THEIR BELTS

Most male actors in westerns wore 2 belts, a "pants belt" and a "gun belt". And there were 3 main ways they positioned the buckles of those belts.

METHOD ONE - BOTH BELT BUCKLES WORN IN CENTER

Many actors wore both belts with the buckle in the center, and one buckle would be positioned just above the other one. However, if both buckles were large garrison-type buckles, this might make the actor appear "buckle-heavy", as in the photo below.

(9) "Buckle-heavy" cowboy in "The Gunfighter"

The cowboy in the checkered shirt looks especially "buckle-heavy".

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bee5wvc1l7k/hqdefault.jpg

One way to avoid this "fashion blunder" is to offset the 2 buckles (from left to right) so that one buckle is not directly above the other one. See photo #4 above of Clint Eastwood and Eric Fleming in "Rawhide" for a good example of this. Another way is to have the gun belt partially cover the pants belt buckle above it.

METHOD TWO - PANTS BELT BUCKLE WORN IN CENTER AND GUN BELT BUCKLE WORN TO THE SIDE

Another common way to avoid appearing "buckle-heavy" is for the actor to wear his pants belt with the buckle in the center and his gun belt with the buckle to the side. The gun belt would rest on his hips on a diagonal with the gun at the low point (usually on his right side) and the buckle of the gun belt would be at the high point (usually on his left side). I find this method for wearing the 2 belts most attractive and quite a turn-on, and examples of it can be found in many TV and movie westerns, especially among secondary characters.

(10) Randolph Scott in Zane Grey's "The Vanishing Pioneer"

Randolph Scott, on the right in the photo below, illustrates method two. Unfortunately, as common as this method is, I couldn't find a good example of it on the Internet where the gun belt buckle was a garrison-type buckle.

http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/11/97/59/03/a_duke49.jpg

METHOD THREE - PANTS BELT BUCKLE WORN TO THE SIDE AND GUN BELT BUCKLE WORN IN THE CENTER

This method of wearing both belts is much less common. The actor wears his pants belt (usually a garrison belt) with the buckle to the side (usually on his left side) and his gun belt is worn with the buckle in the center. The photos below of Peter Brown and Rory Calhoun illustrate this method.

For some reason, as a teenager, I found this method to be especially arousing. Although it's not very common now, the few times I see a guy wearing his belt buckle to the side, it still turns me on.

(11) Peter Brown in "Lawman"

Peter Brown played young deputy Johnny McKay. When the TV series first began, he wore a heavy winter coat which was buttoned up, completely covering his belt. When spring arrived, he shed that coat, revealing a 1-3/4" wide garrison belt with the buckle worn in the center. Later on, he started wearing that belt with the buckle to the side. And finally, he switched to a slightly narrower 1-3/8" wide garrison belt, which he wore with the buckle to the side for the rest of the series. All this took place during the first season.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fSEVzDya1lo/UQS5rnjLajI/AAAAAAAAE9w/hFz6YNBN6q4/s1600/PB02c.jpg

(12) Rory Calhoun in "Red Sundown"

Rory Calhoun wore his belt with the buckle to the side in practically every movie and TV program he was in. It almost seemed to be a trademark of his.

http://www.westernmovies.fr/image/is0/546/4343/m45438.jpg

(13) Rory Calhoun in "The Texan"

In the TV series "The Texan", he always wore a 1-3/4" wide garrison belt with the buckle to the side. Curiously, I noticed that 2 guest actors in that series also wore their belt that way.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/70/6a/93706a8186bcbb0ba448d71756747e2c--rory-calhoun.jpg


NON-WESTERN ACTORS IN THE 1960S and 1970S WEARING GARRISON BELTS

Garrison belts were especially popular in the 1960s and 1970s, as were all wide belts.

(14) Rob Reiner in "All in the Family"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zIdL9GKzRWc/U0CWAU00hjI/AAAAAAAANME/rA0XDFpMSA4/s1600/All+in+the+Family+Mic.png

(15) Ryan O'Neal in "The Big Bounce"

https://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/2/1/lot-of-8-vintage-1969-movie-stills-the-big-bounce-b-w-photos-8x10-ryan-o-neal-a328022f87b3dc406565e98e623de673.jpg


ACTORS WEARING SAM BROWNE BELTS

In the 1960s and 1970s, being "anti-establishment" was the "in" thing. As a result, many "cop shows" never showed their leading characters in a police uniform. And those that did rarely attempted to portray those uniforms with any accuracy. One of the few exceptions was "Adam-12" with its accurate portrayal of the Los Angeles Police Department and its uniforms. And when the LAPD switched to buckle-less duty belts, Adam-12 followed suit too in their 2nd season. I believe the change was for safety reasons: to make officers less conspicuous targets at night from light reflecting off the shiny metal buckles. I lamented that change as I thought those large metal Sam Browne belt buckles were awesome and made the officer look especially commanding (someone I would willingly submit to for punishment). Luckily (for me), most other police departments in my area have retained the traditional metal buckles with their Sam Browne belts.

Have you ever noticed in many cop shows that when 2 partners are portrayed, one is often "dominant" and the other is "submissive". In Adam-12, Officer Pete Malloy (Martin Milner) was the "dominant" one and Officer Jim Reed (Kent McCord) was the "submissive" one. Being largely submissive myself probably explains why I was more attracted to Martin Milner's authoritarian no-nonsense demeanor, although most people seemed to prefer Kent McCord's good looks. Since Office Reed had a wife and child, while Officer Malloy preferred the bachelor's lifestyle, I could still hold out the hope that Officer Malloy might actually be gay.

(16) Martin Milner and Kent McCord in "Adam-12"

The photo below was one of the few I could find of them wearing the earlier-style Sam Browne belts with the large metal buckles. The photo is also notable for the "civilian" making a cameo appearance. A few dozen lashes with a Sam Browne belt for the first guy to correctly identify that civilian.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cf/15/cf/cf15cf59ab6a65de2563be3f5392da40--adam--tv-land.jpg

(17) Ben McKenzie in "Southland"

In a more recent LAPD cop series, McKenzie plays Officer Ben Sherman who is the "submissive" partner. He looks especially "cuddly" wearing a white t-shirt with the bottom half of his uniform including his Sam Browne belt. This may not meet departmental standards, but it does meet mine.

http://www.lauralikey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ben-mckenzie-southland-set2.jpg

(18) Michael Cudlitz in "Southland"

Cudlitz, who plays Officer John Cooper, is obviously the "dominant" partner. Officer Cooper turns out to be the one gay cop in the series. He looks quite nice after hours in his gay bar attire: a black t-shirt, blue jeans, and a 1-3/4" wide black garrison belt. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a photo of him dressed that way.

In one memorable scene (below), when Cooper encounters an especially obnoxious juvenile offender, he correctly surmises that what this kid needs is, not "understanding", but a good whipping with his belt! Now, that's my kind of cop.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A5kWE8EKJEQ/TT81nTI0_bI/AAAAAAAACGI/9zOAUQTesKk/s1600/southland%2Bthe%2Bwinds%2Bmichael%2Bcudlitz.jpg

(19) Michael Cudlitz and Ben McKenzie together in a patrol car in "Southland"

Gay Officer Cooper (behind the steering wheel) probably had a hard time keeping his eyes on the road when Officer Sherman was his partner.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.437773.1314552186!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/alg-tv-southland-jpg.jpg

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[> [> Subject: Re: What is a Garrison Belt?


Author:
Thomas to Stan
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Date Posted: 15:01:48 09/14/17 Thu

>GARRISON BELTS, SAM BROWNE BELTS, AND THE MEN WHO WEAR
>THEM: An essay in photos and words
>
>Click on the links below to see the images referred to
>in the text.
>
>DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNIFORM BELTS
>
>(1) 1-3/4" wide plain-leather garrison belt
>
>Plain-leather garrison belts have been worn as "pants
>belts" by law enforcement officers and by many actors
>in TV and movie westerns. The main difference is that,
>with law enforcement officers, their garrison belt is
>usually hidden (except for the top edge of the buckle)
>underneath their Sam Browne belt, while with western
>actors, their garrison belt is usually totally visible
>because their gun belt is resting lower down on their
>hips.
>
>https://image.rakuten.co.jp/mavazi/cabinet/acce01/aker0
>01_img001.jpg
>
>(2) 1-3/4" wide basketweave garrison belt
>
>Basketweave garrison belts have been mainly worn as
>"pants belts" by law enforcement officers.
>
>http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primar
>y/863/863001.jpg
>
>(3) 2-1/4" wide basketweave Sam Browne belt
>
>Sam Browne belts have been mainly worn as "duty belts"
>by law enforcement officers to hold their gun holster,
>their baton, and other essential equipment. Nowadays,
>so much equipment is attached to their Sam Browne belt
>that often the only part of it that is still visible
>is the large metal buckle.
>
>https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7462/26382254574_abd6362
>083_b.jpg
>
>
>TV AND MOVIE WESTERN ACTORS WEARING GARRISON BELTS
>
>As a teenage baby boomer, I grew up watching the
>so-called "adult westerns" on TV. The stars in those
>westerns substituted as male role models for my father
>who was absent due to divorce. I looked on those TV
>cowboys as father figures. It didn't escape my notice
>that most of them wore garrison belts. And I would
>envision them taking off their wide leather belt and
>punishing me with it whenever I got out-of-line, just
>like any other responsible dad. At that time, I could
>only imagine what the sting of a well-worn garrison
>belt would feel like when wielded by a strong
>masculine hand.
>
>(4) Clint Eastwood and Eric Fleming in "Rawhide"
>
>If you don't recall Eric Fleming by name, I'm sure
>you'll remember his most memorable lines: "Head 'em
>up! Move 'em out!" If you don't recognize Clint
>Eastwood, you didn't grow up on this planet.
>
>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fe/5d/1c
>/fe5d1ce476ea2cce000f466268dfc4d1.jpg
>
>(5) Clint Walker in "Cheyenne"
>
>http://2lin3i1bbign2l2t392v1pxd.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
>/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ClintWalker2.jpg
>
>(6) Lee Majors in "The Big Valley"
>
>Lee Majors played the character Heath Barkley.
>
>http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/c433697d1183c083f340
>59bba9153356bd61975e.pjpg
>
>(7) Heath Barkley endures the lash.
>
>Those unfamiliar with "The Big Valley" may be
>interested in learning that Heath's manly back felt
>the sting of the whip several times during the course
>of that TV series.
>
>http://content7.flixster.com/photo/11/86/28/11862897_or
>i.jpg
>
>(8) Glenn Ford in "The Fastest Gun Alive"
>
>Some guys wear a garrison belt better than others, and
>I think Glenn Ford looked very manly wearing his.
>
>https://myfavoritewesterns.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/
>the-fastest-gun-alive-6.jpg
>
>
>THREE WAYS WESTERN ACTORS WORE THEIR BELTS
>
>Most male actors in westerns wore 2 belts, a "pants
>belt" and a "gun belt". And there were 3 main ways
>they positioned the buckles of those belts.
>
>METHOD ONE - BOTH BELT BUCKLES WORN IN CENTER
>
>Many actors wore both belts with the buckle in the
>center, and one buckle would be positioned just above
>the other one. However, if both buckles were large
>garrison-type buckles, this might make the actor
>appear "buckle-heavy", as in the photo below.
>
>(9) "Buckle-heavy" cowboy in "The Gunfighter"
>
>The cowboy in the checkered shirt looks especially
>"buckle-heavy".
>
>https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bee5wvc1l7k/hqdefault.jpg
>
>One way to avoid this "fashion blunder" is to offset
>the 2 buckles (from left to right) so that one buckle
>is not directly above the other one. See photo #4
>above of Clint Eastwood and Eric Fleming in "Rawhide"
>for a good example of this. Another way is to have the
>gun belt partially cover the pants belt buckle above
>it.
>
>METHOD TWO - PANTS BELT BUCKLE WORN IN CENTER AND GUN
>BELT BUCKLE WORN TO THE SIDE
>
>Another common way to avoid appearing "buckle-heavy"
>is for the actor to wear his pants belt with the
>buckle in the center and his gun belt with the buckle
>to the side. The gun belt would rest on his hips on a
>diagonal with the gun at the low point (usually on his
>right side) and the buckle of the gun belt would be at
>the high point (usually on his left side). I find this
>method for wearing the 2 belts most attractive and
>quite a turn-on, and examples of it can be found in
>many TV and movie westerns, especially among secondary
>characters.
>
>(10) Randolph Scott in Zane Grey's "The Vanishing
>Pioneer"
>
>Randolph Scott, on the right in the photo below,
>illustrates method two. Unfortunately, as common as
>this method is, I couldn't find a good example of it
>on the Internet where the gun belt buckle was a
>garrison-type buckle.
>
>http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/11/97/59/03/a_duke49.jpg
>
>METHOD THREE - PANTS BELT BUCKLE WORN TO THE SIDE AND
>GUN BELT BUCKLE WORN IN THE CENTER
>
>This method of wearing both belts is much less common.
>The actor wears his pants belt (usually a garrison
>belt) with the buckle to the side (usually on his left
>side) and his gun belt is worn with the buckle in the
>center. The photos below of Peter Brown and Rory
>Calhoun illustrate this method.
>
>For some reason, as a teenager, I found this method to
>be especially arousing. Although it's not very common
>now, the few times I see a guy wearing his belt buckle
>to the side, it still turns me on.
>
>(11) Peter Brown in "Lawman"
>
>Peter Brown played young deputy Johnny McKay. When the
>TV series first began, he wore a heavy winter coat
>which was buttoned up, completely covering his belt.
>When spring arrived, he shed that coat, revealing a
>1-3/4" wide garrison belt with the buckle worn in the
>center. Later on, he started wearing that belt with
>the buckle to the side. And finally, he switched to a
>slightly narrower 1-3/8" wide garrison belt, which he
>wore with the buckle to the side for the rest of the
>series. All this took place during the first season.
>
>http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fSEVzDya1lo/UQS5rnjLajI/AAAAA
>AAAE9w/hFz6YNBN6q4/s1600/PB02c.jpg
>
>(12) Rory Calhoun in "Red Sundown"
>
>Rory Calhoun wore his belt with the buckle to the side
>in practically every movie and TV program he was in.
>It almost seemed to be a trademark of his.
>
>http://www.westernmovies.fr/image/is0/546/4343/m45438.j
>pg
>
>(13) Rory Calhoun in "The Texan"
>
>In the TV series "The Texan", he always wore a 1-3/4"
>wide garrison belt with the buckle to the side.
>Curiously, I noticed that 2 guest actors in that
>series also wore their belt that way.
>
>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/70/6a/9370
>6a8186bcbb0ba448d71756747e2c--rory-calhoun.jpg
>
>
>NON-WESTERN ACTORS IN THE 1960S and 1970S WEARING
>GARRISON BELTS
>
>Garrison belts were especially popular in the 1960s
>and 1970s, as were all wide belts.
>
>(14) Rob Reiner in "All in the Family"
>
>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zIdL9GKzRWc/U0CWAU00hjI/AAAAA
>AAANME/rA0XDFpMSA4/s1600/All+in+the+Family+Mic.png
>
>(15) Ryan O'Neal in "The Big Bounce"
>
>https://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/2/1/lot-of
>-8-vintage-1969-movie-stills-the-big-bounce-b-w-photos-
>8x10-ryan-o-neal-a328022f87b3dc406565e98e623de673.jpg
>
>
>ACTORS WEARING SAM BROWNE BELTS
>
>In the 1960s and 1970s, being "anti-establishment" was
>the "in" thing. As a result, many "cop shows" never
>showed their leading characters in a police uniform.
>And those that did rarely attempted to portray those
>uniforms with any accuracy. One of the few exceptions
>was "Adam-12" with its accurate portrayal of the Los
>Angeles Police Department and its uniforms. And when
>the LAPD switched to buckle-less duty belts, Adam-12
>followed suit too in their 2nd season. I believe the
>change was for safety reasons: to make officers less
>conspicuous targets at night from light reflecting off
>the shiny metal buckles. I lamented that change as I
>thought those large metal Sam Browne belt buckles were
>awesome and made the officer look especially
>commanding (someone I would willingly submit to for
>punishment). Luckily (for me), most other police
>departments in my area have retained the traditional
>metal buckles with their Sam Browne belts.
>
>Have you ever noticed in many cop shows that when 2
>partners are portrayed, one is often "dominant" and
>the other is "submissive". In Adam-12, Officer Pete
>Malloy (Martin Milner) was the "dominant" one and
>Officer Jim Reed (Kent McCord) was the "submissive"
>one. Being largely submissive myself probably explains
>why I was more attracted to Martin Milner's
>authoritarian no-nonsense demeanor, although most
>people seemed to prefer Kent McCord's good looks.
>Since Office Reed had a wife and child, while Officer
>Malloy preferred the bachelor's lifestyle, I could
>still hold out the hope that Officer Malloy might
>actually be gay.
>
>(16) Martin Milner and Kent McCord in "Adam-12"
>
>The photo below was one of the few I could find of
>them wearing the earlier-style Sam Browne belts with
>the large metal buckles. The photo is also notable for
>the "civilian" making a cameo appearance. A few dozen
>lashes with a Sam Browne belt for the first guy to
>correctly identify that civilian.
>
>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cf/15/cf/cf15
>cf59ab6a65de2563be3f5392da40--adam--tv-land.jpg
>
>(17) Ben McKenzie in "Southland"
>
>In a more recent LAPD cop series, McKenzie plays
>Officer Ben Sherman who is the "submissive" partner.
>He looks especially "cuddly" wearing a white t-shirt
>with the bottom half of his uniform including his Sam
>Browne belt. This may not meet departmental standards,
>but it does meet mine.
>
>http://www.lauralikey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/be
>n-mckenzie-southland-set2.jpg
>
>(18) Michael Cudlitz in "Southland"
>
>Cudlitz, who plays Officer John Cooper, is obviously
>the "dominant" partner. Officer Cooper turns out to be
>the one gay cop in the series. He looks quite nice
>after hours in his gay bar attire: a black t-shirt,
>blue jeans, and a 1-3/4" wide black garrison belt.
>Unfortunately, I couldn't find a photo of him dressed
>that way.
>
>In one memorable scene (below), when Cooper encounters
>an especially obnoxious juvenile offender, he
>correctly surmises that what this kid needs is, not
>"understanding", but a good whipping with his belt!
>Now, that's my kind of cop.
>
>https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A5kWE8EKJEQ/TT81nTI0_bI/AAAA
>AAAACGI/9zOAUQTesKk/s1600/southland%2Bthe%2Bwinds%2Bmic
>hael%2Bcudlitz.jpg
>
>(19) Michael Cudlitz and Ben McKenzie together in a
>patrol car in "Southland"
>
>Gay Officer Cooper (behind the steering wheel)
>probably had a hard time keeping his eyes on the road
>when Officer Sherman was his partner.
>
>http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.437773.1314
>552186!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article
>_750/alg-tv-southland-jpg.jpg

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Date Posted: 14:52:08 09/19/17 Tue

I had a problem linking to one of the photos in my "photo essay". It was photo #12 titled "Rory Calhoun in The Red Sundown". I create all my posts using Yahoo's Email, and I test all my photo links in that environment. The link to photo #12 worked okay when I tested it in that environment (as did the other 18 photo links in that essay). But when I finally posted the essay to VoyForums and retested all the photo links, I was dismayed to discover that the link to photo #12 now displayed the wrong photo. The intended photo showed Rory Calhoun wearing a garrison belt with the buckle to the side, but what shows up instead appears to be a French movie poster of The Magnificent Seven. Does anyone know how I can reliably test my photo links before I actually post them on VoyForums?

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Date Posted: 15:53:36 10/29/17 Sun

Stan, thanks for those photos and the info. As a baby boomer myself I remember thinking what a blistering those western actors -- though I wasn't thinking of the actors but the characters they player -- could put on my bare pre-teen or teenaged butt. As much as I enjoyed imagining it I doubt if I would have enjoyed it quite so much. One character (actor) you left out that I imagined being soundly spanked by with his belt was Loren Greene (Ben Cartwright) from Bonanza. He seemed to be a great father figure, and did spank one of their visitors in one episode. My father and mother were both around but neither ever really gave my bare bottom the spanking I craved.

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Date Posted: 13:38:26 11/02/17 Thu

Jer, I appreciated your comments. It's reassuring to know that I was not the only baby boomer who fantasized about getting a belt whipping by those oh-so-masculine cowboys portrayed in the adult TV westerns.

As to which Western actors I included in my post, I must confess to being somewhat arbitrary. I didn't intend my post to be all-inclusive, but only to be "representative". I limited myself to those actors I found sexually attractive and who I could envision as a father figure or an authority figure.

I excluded those actors who did not wear a standard garrison belt (since my post was about garrison belts). This included:

(1) James Arness (as Matt Dillon in "Gunsmoke")
(2) Robert Fuller (as Jess Harper in "Laramie" and guest appearances in countless other TV Western series).
(3) Chuck Connors (as Lucas McCain in "The Rifleman"), although I thought he made the ideal Western father figure. I could easily envision him punishing his young son Mark (or me) with his belt, although I don't recall any episode in that series where he actually did so.

I had to exclude some Western actors because I couldn't find a satisfactory photo of them wearing their garrison belt. One example of this was Gene Hackman (in the movie "Unforgiven"). While I don't think of Hackman as particularly attractive, nor do I see him as a father figure, I can't think of any actor who better portrays the archetypal sadist. The only photo I could find of him wearing a garrison belt was too small and poorly exposed. And I could not find a photo of him wielding the bullwhip he used in "Unforgiven".

As to my failure to include Lorne Greene (as Ben Cartwright on "Bonanza), I wasn't particularly attracted to him, for whatever reason, and I had never envisioned him as a parental disciplinarian.

Regarding your allusion to the difference between imagining getting a belt whipping and actually experiencing one, I am fully sympathetic. You might want to check out 2 of my non-fiction posts titled "The Most Painful Whipping I Ever Received" and "Getting the Belt" to see 2 takes on how I've responded to a real belt whipping. They are both located in this forum's archives, which are accessible from the top and bottom of the screen on the right-hand side.

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