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Subject: Re: What is a Garrison Belt?


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Thomas to Stan
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Date Posted: 15:01:48 09/14/17 Thu
In reply to: Stan 's message, "Re: What is a Garrison Belt?" on 14:39:41 09/12/17 Tue

>GARRISON BELTS, SAM BROWNE BELTS, AND THE MEN WHO WEAR
>THEM: An essay in photos and words
>
>Click on the links below to see the images referred to
>in the text.
>
>DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNIFORM BELTS
>
>(1) 1-3/4" wide plain-leather garrison belt
>
>Plain-leather garrison belts have been worn as "pants
>belts" by law enforcement officers and by many actors
>in TV and movie westerns. The main difference is that,
>with law enforcement officers, their garrison belt is
>usually hidden (except for the top edge of the buckle)
>underneath their Sam Browne belt, while with western
>actors, their garrison belt is usually totally visible
>because their gun belt is resting lower down on their
>hips.
>
>https://image.rakuten.co.jp/mavazi/cabinet/acce01/aker0
>01_img001.jpg
>
>(2) 1-3/4" wide basketweave garrison belt
>
>Basketweave garrison belts have been mainly worn as
>"pants belts" by law enforcement officers.
>
>http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primar
>y/863/863001.jpg
>
>(3) 2-1/4" wide basketweave Sam Browne belt
>
>Sam Browne belts have been mainly worn as "duty belts"
>by law enforcement officers to hold their gun holster,
>their baton, and other essential equipment. Nowadays,
>so much equipment is attached to their Sam Browne belt
>that often the only part of it that is still visible
>is the large metal buckle.
>
>https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7462/26382254574_abd6362
>083_b.jpg
>
>
>TV AND MOVIE WESTERN ACTORS WEARING GARRISON BELTS
>
>As a teenage baby boomer, I grew up watching the
>so-called "adult westerns" on TV. The stars in those
>westerns substituted as male role models for my father
>who was absent due to divorce. I looked on those TV
>cowboys as father figures. It didn't escape my notice
>that most of them wore garrison belts. And I would
>envision them taking off their wide leather belt and
>punishing me with it whenever I got out-of-line, just
>like any other responsible dad. At that time, I could
>only imagine what the sting of a well-worn garrison
>belt would feel like when wielded by a strong
>masculine hand.
>
>(4) Clint Eastwood and Eric Fleming in "Rawhide"
>
>If you don't recall Eric Fleming by name, I'm sure
>you'll remember his most memorable lines: "Head 'em
>up! Move 'em out!" If you don't recognize Clint
>Eastwood, you didn't grow up on this planet.
>
>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fe/5d/1c
>/fe5d1ce476ea2cce000f466268dfc4d1.jpg
>
>(5) Clint Walker in "Cheyenne"
>
>http://2lin3i1bbign2l2t392v1pxd.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
>/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ClintWalker2.jpg
>
>(6) Lee Majors in "The Big Valley"
>
>Lee Majors played the character Heath Barkley.
>
>http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/c433697d1183c083f340
>59bba9153356bd61975e.pjpg
>
>(7) Heath Barkley endures the lash.
>
>Those unfamiliar with "The Big Valley" may be
>interested in learning that Heath's manly back felt
>the sting of the whip several times during the course
>of that TV series.
>
>http://content7.flixster.com/photo/11/86/28/11862897_or
>i.jpg
>
>(8) Glenn Ford in "The Fastest Gun Alive"
>
>Some guys wear a garrison belt better than others, and
>I think Glenn Ford looked very manly wearing his.
>
>https://myfavoritewesterns.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/
>the-fastest-gun-alive-6.jpg
>
>
>THREE WAYS WESTERN ACTORS WORE THEIR BELTS
>
>Most male actors in westerns wore 2 belts, a "pants
>belt" and a "gun belt". And there were 3 main ways
>they positioned the buckles of those belts.
>
>METHOD ONE - BOTH BELT BUCKLES WORN IN CENTER
>
>Many actors wore both belts with the buckle in the
>center, and one buckle would be positioned just above
>the other one. However, if both buckles were large
>garrison-type buckles, this might make the actor
>appear "buckle-heavy", as in the photo below.
>
>(9) "Buckle-heavy" cowboy in "The Gunfighter"
>
>The cowboy in the checkered shirt looks especially
>"buckle-heavy".
>
>https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bee5wvc1l7k/hqdefault.jpg
>
>One way to avoid this "fashion blunder" is to offset
>the 2 buckles (from left to right) so that one buckle
>is not directly above the other one. See photo #4
>above of Clint Eastwood and Eric Fleming in "Rawhide"
>for a good example of this. Another way is to have the
>gun belt partially cover the pants belt buckle above
>it.
>
>METHOD TWO - PANTS BELT BUCKLE WORN IN CENTER AND GUN
>BELT BUCKLE WORN TO THE SIDE
>
>Another common way to avoid appearing "buckle-heavy"
>is for the actor to wear his pants belt with the
>buckle in the center and his gun belt with the buckle
>to the side. The gun belt would rest on his hips on a
>diagonal with the gun at the low point (usually on his
>right side) and the buckle of the gun belt would be at
>the high point (usually on his left side). I find this
>method for wearing the 2 belts most attractive and
>quite a turn-on, and examples of it can be found in
>many TV and movie westerns, especially among secondary
>characters.
>
>(10) Randolph Scott in Zane Grey's "The Vanishing
>Pioneer"
>
>Randolph Scott, on the right in the photo below,
>illustrates method two. Unfortunately, as common as
>this method is, I couldn't find a good example of it
>on the Internet where the gun belt buckle was a
>garrison-type buckle.
>
>http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/11/97/59/03/a_duke49.jpg
>
>METHOD THREE - PANTS BELT BUCKLE WORN TO THE SIDE AND
>GUN BELT BUCKLE WORN IN THE CENTER
>
>This method of wearing both belts is much less common.
>The actor wears his pants belt (usually a garrison
>belt) with the buckle to the side (usually on his left
>side) and his gun belt is worn with the buckle in the
>center. The photos below of Peter Brown and Rory
>Calhoun illustrate this method.
>
>For some reason, as a teenager, I found this method to
>be especially arousing. Although it's not very common
>now, the few times I see a guy wearing his belt buckle
>to the side, it still turns me on.
>
>(11) Peter Brown in "Lawman"
>
>Peter Brown played young deputy Johnny McKay. When the
>TV series first began, he wore a heavy winter coat
>which was buttoned up, completely covering his belt.
>When spring arrived, he shed that coat, revealing a
>1-3/4" wide garrison belt with the buckle worn in the
>center. Later on, he started wearing that belt with
>the buckle to the side. And finally, he switched to a
>slightly narrower 1-3/8" wide garrison belt, which he
>wore with the buckle to the side for the rest of the
>series. All this took place during the first season.
>
>http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fSEVzDya1lo/UQS5rnjLajI/AAAAA
>AAAE9w/hFz6YNBN6q4/s1600/PB02c.jpg
>
>(12) Rory Calhoun in "Red Sundown"
>
>Rory Calhoun wore his belt with the buckle to the side
>in practically every movie and TV program he was in.
>It almost seemed to be a trademark of his.
>
>http://www.westernmovies.fr/image/is0/546/4343/m45438.j
>pg
>
>(13) Rory Calhoun in "The Texan"
>
>In the TV series "The Texan", he always wore a 1-3/4"
>wide garrison belt with the buckle to the side.
>Curiously, I noticed that 2 guest actors in that
>series also wore their belt that way.
>
>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/70/6a/9370
>6a8186bcbb0ba448d71756747e2c--rory-calhoun.jpg
>
>
>NON-WESTERN ACTORS IN THE 1960S and 1970S WEARING
>GARRISON BELTS
>
>Garrison belts were especially popular in the 1960s
>and 1970s, as were all wide belts.
>
>(14) Rob Reiner in "All in the Family"
>
>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zIdL9GKzRWc/U0CWAU00hjI/AAAAA
>AAANME/rA0XDFpMSA4/s1600/All+in+the+Family+Mic.png
>
>(15) Ryan O'Neal in "The Big Bounce"
>
>https://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/2/1/lot-of
>-8-vintage-1969-movie-stills-the-big-bounce-b-w-photos-
>8x10-ryan-o-neal-a328022f87b3dc406565e98e623de673.jpg
>
>
>ACTORS WEARING SAM BROWNE BELTS
>
>In the 1960s and 1970s, being "anti-establishment" was
>the "in" thing. As a result, many "cop shows" never
>showed their leading characters in a police uniform.
>And those that did rarely attempted to portray those
>uniforms with any accuracy. One of the few exceptions
>was "Adam-12" with its accurate portrayal of the Los
>Angeles Police Department and its uniforms. And when
>the LAPD switched to buckle-less duty belts, Adam-12
>followed suit too in their 2nd season. I believe the
>change was for safety reasons: to make officers less
>conspicuous targets at night from light reflecting off
>the shiny metal buckles. I lamented that change as I
>thought those large metal Sam Browne belt buckles were
>awesome and made the officer look especially
>commanding (someone I would willingly submit to for
>punishment). Luckily (for me), most other police
>departments in my area have retained the traditional
>metal buckles with their Sam Browne belts.
>
>Have you ever noticed in many cop shows that when 2
>partners are portrayed, one is often "dominant" and
>the other is "submissive". In Adam-12, Officer Pete
>Malloy (Martin Milner) was the "dominant" one and
>Officer Jim Reed (Kent McCord) was the "submissive"
>one. Being largely submissive myself probably explains
>why I was more attracted to Martin Milner's
>authoritarian no-nonsense demeanor, although most
>people seemed to prefer Kent McCord's good looks.
>Since Office Reed had a wife and child, while Officer
>Malloy preferred the bachelor's lifestyle, I could
>still hold out the hope that Officer Malloy might
>actually be gay.
>
>(16) Martin Milner and Kent McCord in "Adam-12"
>
>The photo below was one of the few I could find of
>them wearing the earlier-style Sam Browne belts with
>the large metal buckles. The photo is also notable for
>the "civilian" making a cameo appearance. A few dozen
>lashes with a Sam Browne belt for the first guy to
>correctly identify that civilian.
>
>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cf/15/cf/cf15
>cf59ab6a65de2563be3f5392da40--adam--tv-land.jpg
>
>(17) Ben McKenzie in "Southland"
>
>In a more recent LAPD cop series, McKenzie plays
>Officer Ben Sherman who is the "submissive" partner.
>He looks especially "cuddly" wearing a white t-shirt
>with the bottom half of his uniform including his Sam
>Browne belt. This may not meet departmental standards,
>but it does meet mine.
>
>http://www.lauralikey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/be
>n-mckenzie-southland-set2.jpg
>
>(18) Michael Cudlitz in "Southland"
>
>Cudlitz, who plays Officer John Cooper, is obviously
>the "dominant" partner. Officer Cooper turns out to be
>the one gay cop in the series. He looks quite nice
>after hours in his gay bar attire: a black t-shirt,
>blue jeans, and a 1-3/4" wide black garrison belt.
>Unfortunately, I couldn't find a photo of him dressed
>that way.
>
>In one memorable scene (below), when Cooper encounters
>an especially obnoxious juvenile offender, he
>correctly surmises that what this kid needs is, not
>"understanding", but a good whipping with his belt!
>Now, that's my kind of cop.
>
>https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A5kWE8EKJEQ/TT81nTI0_bI/AAAA
>AAAACGI/9zOAUQTesKk/s1600/southland%2Bthe%2Bwinds%2Bmic
>hael%2Bcudlitz.jpg
>
>(19) Michael Cudlitz and Ben McKenzie together in a
>patrol car in "Southland"
>
>Gay Officer Cooper (behind the steering wheel)
>probably had a hard time keeping his eyes on the road
>when Officer Sherman was his partner.
>
>http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.437773.1314
>552186!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article
>_750/alg-tv-southland-jpg.jpg

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Date Posted: 14:52:08 09/19/17 Tue

I had a problem linking to one of the photos in my "photo essay". It was photo #12 titled "Rory Calhoun in The Red Sundown". I create all my posts using Yahoo's Email, and I test all my photo links in that environment. The link to photo #12 worked okay when I tested it in that environment (as did the other 18 photo links in that essay). But when I finally posted the essay to VoyForums and retested all the photo links, I was dismayed to discover that the link to photo #12 now displayed the wrong photo. The intended photo showed Rory Calhoun wearing a garrison belt with the buckle to the side, but what shows up instead appears to be a French movie poster of The Magnificent Seven. Does anyone know how I can reliably test my photo links before I actually post them on VoyForums?

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Date Posted: 15:53:36 10/29/17 Sun

Stan, thanks for those photos and the info. As a baby boomer myself I remember thinking what a blistering those western actors -- though I wasn't thinking of the actors but the characters they player -- could put on my bare pre-teen or teenaged butt. As much as I enjoyed imagining it I doubt if I would have enjoyed it quite so much. One character (actor) you left out that I imagined being soundly spanked by with his belt was Loren Greene (Ben Cartwright) from Bonanza. He seemed to be a great father figure, and did spank one of their visitors in one episode. My father and mother were both around but neither ever really gave my bare bottom the spanking I craved.

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Stan
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Date Posted: 13:38:26 11/02/17 Thu

Jer, I appreciated your comments. It's reassuring to know that I was not the only baby boomer who fantasized about getting a belt whipping by those oh-so-masculine cowboys portrayed in the adult TV westerns.

As to which Western actors I included in my post, I must confess to being somewhat arbitrary. I didn't intend my post to be all-inclusive, but only to be "representative". I limited myself to those actors I found sexually attractive and who I could envision as a father figure or an authority figure.

I excluded those actors who did not wear a standard garrison belt (since my post was about garrison belts). This included:

(1) James Arness (as Matt Dillon in "Gunsmoke")
(2) Robert Fuller (as Jess Harper in "Laramie" and guest appearances in countless other TV Western series).
(3) Chuck Connors (as Lucas McCain in "The Rifleman"), although I thought he made the ideal Western father figure. I could easily envision him punishing his young son Mark (or me) with his belt, although I don't recall any episode in that series where he actually did so.

I had to exclude some Western actors because I couldn't find a satisfactory photo of them wearing their garrison belt. One example of this was Gene Hackman (in the movie "Unforgiven"). While I don't think of Hackman as particularly attractive, nor do I see him as a father figure, I can't think of any actor who better portrays the archetypal sadist. The only photo I could find of him wearing a garrison belt was too small and poorly exposed. And I could not find a photo of him wielding the bullwhip he used in "Unforgiven".

As to my failure to include Lorne Greene (as Ben Cartwright on "Bonanza), I wasn't particularly attracted to him, for whatever reason, and I had never envisioned him as a parental disciplinarian.

Regarding your allusion to the difference between imagining getting a belt whipping and actually experiencing one, I am fully sympathetic. You might want to check out 2 of my non-fiction posts titled "The Most Painful Whipping I Ever Received" and "Getting the Belt" to see 2 takes on how I've responded to a real belt whipping. They are both located in this forum's archives, which are accessible from the top and bottom of the screen on the right-hand side.

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