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Subject: Wow! Kathryn Dunn (former TX competitor) is competing in Miss Colorado USA next month! How awesome is THAT???!!!!! OMG
Author: For the win [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:54:54 09/27/16 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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i thought she aged out (NT) -- betty, 22:57:43 09/27/16 Tue She has at least this year to compete, maybe even next year too depending when her birthday is... (NT) -- She said it on one of her Instagram posts recently..., 23:16:06 09/27/16 Tue She has two more years to compete.... but it does feel like forever ago when she first competed and placed top 5 (NT) -- B, 10:12:07 09/28/16 Wed Wow! I really hope this is true. She's been one of my favorite Texas girls. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 05:32:14 09/28/16 Wed Kathryn has been preparing for COLORADO for months now. I suspect she will be very competitive, and a frontrunner for the title. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 09:00:00 09/28/16 Wed THE front runner! Unless Andrea Neu surprises us and returns. Then I won't know what to do. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 10:15:06 09/28/16 Wed Lay down and cry hahaha this is exciting news! I've been a fan of hers, she should be a force in CO (NT) -- CrownedKing, 14:17:09 09/28/16 Wed Good for her! I always thought the MUO was a better fit for her than MAO. I hope she does well. (NT) -- ., 09:16:30 09/28/16 Wed She's simply not slim enough to win. I wish she won back in her "hey" day but she's passed her prime in my opinion (NT) -- Please don't attack me thanks, 10:36:58 09/28/16 Wed Actually I think she looks better now then she used to look! I have only seen her headshots from Texas and they looked way over done ! I think she looks more natural now ! (NT) -- Curious how she will do ! Just because she is older doesn't mean she is passed her prime ! Olivia Jordan was older when she won it all !, 11:10:42 09/28/16 Wed ^ I agree!! ^ (NT) -- :), 11:21:07 09/28/16 Wed Never said she was too old. I said she's passed her prime. She's looked hard for years now and too heavy. (NT) -- Just what I see, 12:55:48 09/28/16 Wed MUO is going in a different direction. I don't think it's important to be lanky skinny but healthy for your body type. (NT) -- times are changing, 12:00:11 09/28/16 Wed Not to mention Kathryn is pretty established in her career, which also seems to be the "type" that the new ownership is looking for (NT) -- N, 14:47:25 09/28/16 Wed I think she has a great chance at winning COLORADO. Colorado is one of the few states where I can't predict a major front runner. Alexis Lazarro & Imane Oubou were the only ones I could think of who'd be competitive (assuming they're competing), but Kathryn Dunn would definitely be my choice FTW. (NT) -- Groove, 12:06:05 09/28/16 Wed My money is on Taylor Kelly she was teen 2015. She is stunning and does makeup with Austin Ryde. She will be very competitive. (NT) -- ditto, 12:47:08 09/28/16 Wed Yay! Welcome to beautiful Colorado, Kathryn. I wish more Texas girls would come and compete in the state. When she was trying to be a DCC, I loved her personality and beauty. (NT) -- Queen of the Rockies, 12:14:12 09/28/16 Wed How long has she lived there? (NT) -- ., 18:26:12 09/28/16 Wed I have no idea who she is and I'm from Texas.. can someone please give me a small background on her? I wanna know who she is (NT) -- When was the last time she competed in Texas?, 22:08:56 09/28/16 Wed She has placed top 5 in Texas MAO and USA, something that has only been accomplished by 2 other women in Texas. She competed and placed top 5 the year Ana Rodriguez won, then dropped to top 15, then was a non-finalist. She hasn't competed in 3 years or so so it will be interesting to see her return to colorado (NT) -- Z, 22:44:33 09/28/16 Wed Kathryn Dunn (NF 14, NF 13, T15 12, 4RU 11, NF TX TUSA 08) (NT) -- BOA, 23:15:11 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: There She Is.....former Miss Universe....
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:16:13 09/27/16 Tue Well for the first time ever in a U.S. presidential debate, a former Miss Universe winner's name was mentioned. And we can thank Hillary Rodham Clinton for that last night. Now everyone is hoping to interview Alicia Machado, the former Miss Venezuela 1995 and Miss Universe 1996. Tonight Anderson Cooper will have the ex "Miss Piggy" (Donald Trump's words, not mine!!) on CNN between 8-9 pm Eastern/(7-8 pm Central time, with a repeat at Midnight/11 pm Central time on CNN. Now they got one more thing to add to Alicia Machado's Wikipedia biography page: <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Machado">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alicia_Machado</a> <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/alicia-machado-miss-piggy-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-miss-universe-1996-presidential-debate-2016-who/">http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/alicia-machado-miss-piggy-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-miss-universe-1996-presidential-debate-2016-who/</a> And check today and Wednesday's episode of syndicated tabloid show "Inside Edition" for an interview and coverage about Alicia, who will now become the break-out star for the Democrats in the 2016 presidential campaign. Who would have guessed??!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/27/trump-doubles-down-on-alicia-machado-says-ex-beauty-queens-weight-gain-was-a-real-problem.html (NT) -- d, 18:19:51 09/27/16 Tue Alicia was one of the most titleholders in MUO history. If not for the weight gain publicity, she'd have never been heard of. She should be grateful for that, as bad as it may sound, because she SUCKED badly... And she wasn't necessarily a nice soul all the time, to put the rotten cherry on top... (NT) -- truth, 23:03:29 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: Just saw post of the newly former state winner talking to the new winner for Miss Michigan USA..... YIKES! Lol! Can someone else.... Pageant patty to the highest. Just from that video was cringe-worthy. And don't say I'm attacking, because I'm NOT from MI and know NOTHING about her, but didn't give a good first impress. Reminded me of Caite Upton, beautiful, but pattied.
Author: .. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:54:33 09/28/16 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What do you mean by pageant patty? (NT) -- Clueless, 22:05:19 09/28/16 Wed The way she spoke seemed very over rehearsed and fake which is a pageant patty? Do you not know what it meant? (NT) -- Like I said, don't know her and not from MI, but watching it for the first time, that's what I got..., 22:56:04 09/28/16 Wed Oh my god I swear I wanted to post what you just said... But I didn't want anyone to get offended or attack either. The way she spoke just seemed very fake and practiced/rehearsed. There was zero sincerity from her voice... I hope it was just her being nervious. (NT) -- PGFAN, 22:41:37 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: Alicia in the news
Author: missuniverse [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:53:40 09/27/16 Tue Alicia Machado is clearly back in the headlines - longtime pageant fans will know just about every fact contained in this article, but just to share with all. What are your own memories of that 1996 pageant? <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/57ea93b3e4b0972364dea482?timestamp=1474994880669">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/57ea93b3e4b0972364dea482?timestamp=1474994880669</a> [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Trump (as usual) make a complete incompetent FOOL out of himself last night when he spoke about Alicia. He was disgusting as usual. (NT) -- DeeDee, 12:14:25 09/27/16 Tue I'll avoid the political side of this (and hope others will resist as well), but it was certainly the first time I have ever heard a Miss Universe mentioned during a presidential debate, LOL. In any case, I remember thinking she was a worthy winner, but I was sorry Ali Landry didn't make the Top 3 that year. I liked the first runner-up (Aruba) but was surprised she went so far. -- MrCoconuts, 13:47:33 09/27/16 Tue Amazing that was 20 years ago! I remember the weight gain storyline quite well as it was featured on various television programs including Entertainment Tonight and Inside Edition. Yes, Alicia gained a significant amount of weight a few months after being crowned, but the entire situation could have been handled quietly, privately and diplomatically. Rather, Trump made it into a circus. Alicia conducted herself as best as she could. Karma. (NT) -- MLB, 16:20:54 09/27/16 Tue Karma might be your new President so prepare yourself just in case. (NT) -- ready for real issues to be discussed, 16:23:24 09/27/16 Tue Trump's women-hating IS a real issue. And it should be to all women. (NT) -- DeeDee, 17:27:18 09/27/16 Tue We need to take into account the fact that Miss USA (or other pageants) kind of, sort of, became a laughing stock (not being taken seriously) in early 1990s. So when Trump took over in 1996, he wanted to revive some interest and increase ratings. Alicia had a MAJOR issue with weight, she looked overweight at times of her reign. I know that was an issue later with Chelsea Cooley AND Zuleyka Rivera, but to a much lesser extent. Machado REALLY gained too much weight to be Miss Universe. We are not talking sexy curves/bootylicous but rather unhealthy diet. Trump and the MUO org. should have asked her to loose weight and she did. It was publicized and gained attention at a time that pageants needed it. Entertainment Tonight covered it extensively. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 18:31:53 09/27/16 Tue A pageant that choses a sexy beautiful woman as its representative then has a problem when she gets fat? Any other entertainment industry would have the same issue. I guess the best thing would have just been to fire her? Is that what you are suggesting? (NT) -- Try to have a coherent thought..., 18:25:13 09/27/16 Tue Yes, that is what most people would suggest as opposed to constantly harassing her, calling her Miss Piggy, and sending press releases about her weight while inviting cameras in to videotape her working out. How humiliating for her and how piggish of Trump Mr. Piggy (NT) -- PF, 18:31:08 09/27/16 Tue But he didn't do that in a press release or in public - it was in private. She is an adult - she should get over it. If you want to hold him accountable for calling her an "eating machine" in public - fine. (NT) -- She could have always quit if she wanted to. A lot of people don't have the choice. She obviously had a choice., 18:51:56 09/27/16 Tue Uh, TODAY he said she gained 55 pounds--which is of course a lie--she gained nowhere near that. AND he said that in public. (NT) -- DeeDee, 18:56:28 09/27/16 Tue Unless there is proof we are just in a battle of opinions right now. (NT) -- I wasn't in the room where it happened..., 19:00:09 09/27/16 Tue There is video footage of him turning the whole thing into a circus by inviting press to watch her exercise. Stop defending the indefensible. You sound ridiculous (NT) -- PF, 19:47:31 09/27/16 Tue I haven't seen the original video story. I can't find it. Can you post a link to the original video from 1996? (NT) -- Then I will answer., 20:04:21 09/27/16 Tue I will answer my own request: I found this story from the Washington Post from 1997 that seems to support that opinion https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1997/05/16/miss-universe-sizing-up-her-reign/4b76f45c-aaa9-4b44-8acf-39f2d4af7598/ Not Trump's best moment. I will add that to my marks against him. (NT) -- But part of me does wonder "at this point? what difference does it make?" - to quote another famous person..., 20:21:25 09/27/16 Tue Just read an article about Machado threatening to kill a judge in Venezuela. They have a picture of her from back then and omg she is enormous. Not just for a beauty queen but for the 1990s. No wonder Trump flipped out! (NT) -- wtf?!, 20:33:43 09/27/16 Tue I can't believe there is any "debate" about this. Are we unable to recognize cruelty, misogyny, and racism? All three are neatly wrapped up in the "Miss Piggy, Miss Housekeeping" comments, and they are part of a larger pattern that continues to this day. This is not about policies or politics, it is about the most basic human qualities. -- MrCoconuts, 20:34:16 09/27/16 Tue Thank you for your summary. I continue to be amazed that people just don't care about how others are treated. "It's his pageant. He can do what he wants." We've heard that over and over. When did common decency and appropriate behavior fly out the window? (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 06:28:25 09/28/16 Wed Strange to see people on this board sticking up for the titleholder whose weight is being talked about. Is it only okay to criticize weight gain anonymously, behind a keyboard? Because that happens on here all the time. -- ., 20:51:47 09/27/16 Tue I'm sure it was the first time a pageant winnerhas been brought up in a Presidential debate, however, the only part of it that saddened me was Clinton referring to "hanging around beauty contests" as a disparaging remark. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 21:02:09 09/27/16 Tue BTW, I'd much rather hang around a "beauty contest" than a "Presidential debate." (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 21:03:19 09/27/16 Tue Trump is not going to win. He does NOT stand a chance. (NT) -- It is hilarious that some think he does, 21:33:17 09/27/16 Tue Thank you! I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed before pretending to be upset about Machado, Clinton was mocking the pageant. How does that get a pass? (NT) -- disgraceful, 08:26:20 09/28/16 Wed Well it's true--he was a beauty pageant "hanger-oner". (NT) -- DeeDee, 16:50:14 09/28/16 Wed Lest we forget: It was a HUGE press issue, and, provided the Top 3 question at Miss USA 1997 the following year. The brilliant Brooke Mahealani Lee's response was heartfelt, timeless, authentic, and definitive, and it won her the Miss USA crown. see youtube - cue to 3:00 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbbkWK7DlWU -- Rico Suave, 21:26:22 09/27/16 Tue As mentioned in the above post, Brooke Lee's MUSA Final Question was about Alicia's weight gain. HOWEVER, Brooke indirectly addressed the same issue to her MU Final Question when she said she would eat everything in the world...twice.."you do not understand." Her statement signified the pressure women must go through to compete and stay in shape. (NT) -- John O., 05:02:30 09/28/16 Wed Where is Sheena Monnin? Is she still paying the $5,000,000 for saying that Miss Universe was rigged? (NT) -- She's another victim of Trump, 17:11:21 09/28/16 Wed If you call that a victim. I call it she got what she deserved fir making inflammatory comments and false statements. (NT) -- Take accountability, 20:37:45 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: Jordan Rector drops from 2017 state pageant
Author: - [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:53:49 09/27/16 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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what state was she running in (NT) -- betty, 17:36:17 09/27/16 Tue New Jersey (NT) -- Kimmie, 18:35:40 09/27/16 Tue New Jersey. She was definitely a favorite on social media. Though personally, I think that while she is very attractive, I do think it is a surprise that she never won New Jersey (At times over 100 girls competing there and a high level competition).. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 18:37:06 09/27/16 Tue Jersey always has a great combination of returns and newbies. My favorites last year were Jessielyn Palumbo, Jordan Rector, Michlle Torres and Vanessa Contreras( I was shocked when neither of them were called for top 5, they were great on stage) and since Jessielyn won it looks like Michelle is my only favorite from last year that's coming back. Can't wait to see this year's girls. (NT) -- Kimmie, 19:47:28 09/27/16 Tue Why??!! (NT) -- South star, 19:41:37 09/27/16 Tue From what I read on social media she's having some health issues, i hope she makes a full recovery so we can see her on the stage next year. Been a fan since Iowa (NT) -- Kimmie, 19:49:47 09/27/16 Tue Jordan is a true class at and has a heart of gold. I messaged her last year before her pageant wishing her well and she took the time to have a conversation with me, even in the midst of competition. Girls, pay attention...... being kind to your fans pays off. This girl has a very bright future in front of her and you can bet I will be cheering her on from the front row. I hope she gets better soon... she has a crown waiting for her! (NT) -- TXMan, 09:39:11 09/28/16 Wed Let me tell you about Jordan. My daughter competed in Miss NJ last year and although I love and support my daughter fully, I had the crown between Jessielyn or Jordan. After the pageant, I went up to her to congratulate her on Top 5. I could tell she was upset at not winning but she handled it with such grace and I won't forget that. She was very kind to us and I remember watching her take photos with anyone who asked. My daughter is not competing again but I had hoped to "adopt" Jordan as they say. I'm very sad at this news but I know when she comes back, it will truly be NJ's loss not to crown her. (NT) -- NJ Mama, 17:27:27 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: W00T!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:04:09 09/28/16 Wed FOUR former Teens & a former Miss SD competing in Miss SD USA! Last edited by author: Wed September 28, 2016 13:04:21 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wow! Going to be a tough year in SD. (NT) -- ., 13:41:49 09/28/16 Wed Alexis Rupp (SD Teen 2013) is STUNNING. Rooting for Tessa Dee as well! (NT) -- CrownedKing, 14:15:20 09/28/16 Wed Judging by the Headshots in Miss, there are some strong newcomers too! How crazy would it be for a newbie to swipe the win? (NT) -- Will be a fun pageant to watch, 15:41:54 09/28/16 Wed Wow. Way. To. Go, South Dakota! For 19, the Miss competition is crazy! I've always loved Kalani and I had her in my Top 15. But dang, this may be the hardest Road To pick so far, IMO. (NT) -- Groove, 18:38:25 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: NEXT ROAD TO USA 2017 CONTESTS ARE NOW OPEN FOR .....FLORIDA TEEN, NORTH CAROLINA AND SOUTH DAKOTA !
Author: Qban [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:25:52 09/28/16 Wed PLEASE VISIT WWW.VOY.COM/213733/ TO ENTER OR CLICK ON "ROAD TO" GRAPHIC AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: MISS ITALY 1ST RUNNER UP BODY SHAMING
Author: d [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:43:25 09/27/16 Tue <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/miss-italy-runner-up-responds-after-being-brutally-body-shamed-105011005.html">https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/miss-italy-runner-up-responds-after-being-brutally-body-shamed-105011005.html</a> [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She does not look like a US size 14. Sizes are different there (NT) -- PM, 22:08:22 09/27/16 Tue She's huge! (NT) -- Dolly S.Dimples, 01:57:21 09/28/16 Wed Women are vicious! (NT) -- Sad she had this happen to her., 15:42:54 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: Louisiana commentary also up
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:04:59 09/28/16 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What about TN...? (NT) -- It's on the 8th too., 15:04:51 09/28/16 Wed She can't do a rundown until the contestants are up. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 15:27:04 09/28/16 Wed LOUISIANA is going to be very competitive this year. So many strong new contestants, I dont think any of the veterans are safe. As of right now, I have 22 making the Top 15, and 8 contestants who I think have a shot at winning the title. Exciting! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:18:20 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: Ok anyone want to eludicate on the update I saw flash across my newsfeed but cannot find on fb about FL Genesis and all that jazz? TIA. Don't want a drama ridden bash fest. Just a concise rundown of what occurred. Thank you.
Author: Curious and can't find an explanation. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:00:05 09/25/16 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think she posted something on instagram how she will be competing next year. (NT) -- ., 19:49:07 09/25/16 Sun I read a badly translated post from Genesis's Facebook page & it sounds like she has come to a settlement with Grant Gavitt after 10 hours of arbitration talks. (NT) -- Anon, 19:58:13 09/25/16 Sun After all of this crap, I am florred she is going to compete again next year. I hope the judges google her name and she is left standing. No state director needs that drama for a year. (NT) -- ., 07:50:48 09/26/16 Mon So, after all this nonsense, she (surprise, surprise!) took the money and now she is posting about how "God is just" and "I deserved this much money" and "the crown lost its luster for me now" and other similar crap. Please! We all know what you truly were after, Genesis. The only ones that benefited from this were the lawyers, as usual. -- $$$$. That is all she wanted. I hope nobody takes her in in any other pageant, period., 07:54:53 09/26/16 Mon I am not a fan of Genesis, but I am happy she was payed. Let's face it, all the dethronement drama was a real disgrace. It is not 100% certain she used her own make-up people and I do not find it serious enough to dethrone someone. I find it strange contestants cannot have their own make-up artist at Miss state pageant. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 14:31:56 09/26/16 Mon Hawt I think sometimes it has a lot to do with limited space and having too many people backstage and plus you don't know who these people yes most a reputable but in the event that they don't it opens the door for drama plus there is a limited time to get ready it helps put other girls on an even playing field in my opinion. also just because he didn't have "proof" doesn't mean it wasn't true. I think the org just wanted this to go away ASAP. Maybe it was a condition for grant to keep the franchise. Who knows. But I Agree this made pageants look bad. (NT) -- South star, 14:42:26 09/26/16 Mon There will be another lawsuit if she doesn't win. With people like her, it just does not stop. She should remove the Miss Florida USA pictures and description from all her bios now right? Or is she that delusional (NT) -- Kanye, 08:12:29 09/26/16 Mon Im going to go with delusional. (NT) -- ., 08:24:54 09/26/16 Mon Let's move on and celebrate our New Miss Florida USA! She needs everyone's support. Again like the poster said no bashing. It's over now. (NT) -- GladItsOver, 08:35:53 09/26/16 Mon Wait they gave her money?! Unbelievable! If she takes the money she should be ineligible to compete again. I'd find that a conflict of interest in my opinion. Glad it's over but she honestly needs to be done with pageantry (NT) -- South star, 08:43:06 09/26/16 Mon So now how doe's one apologizes to the Gravitt's. They have been run through a ringer. (NT) -- wondering down south, 12:53:25 09/26/16 Mon Apologize for what? You don't offer a payoff unless you are guilty of something. Gravitt did not have necessary proof or a line of girls ready to testify or he would have had the case dismissed and not had to pay a dime (NT) -- Professor Obvious, 15:40:14 09/26/16 Mon Actually thats not true. What it does down to is the willingness to spend a ton of money to win a case or not. It could have cost him tens of thousands to fight this case, and win, to what avail? He would be out way more than it would cost for the settlement even if he had a slam dunk win. The courts can award him damages and she would have to pay his legal fees, then she declares bankruptcy and he is still out all that money and no further ahead. A settlement makes it go away plain and simple. No one admits fault and its just over and ppl can move on. (NT) -- Christi, 18:59:13 09/26/16 Mon This is the sanest thing that has ever been written on here (NT) -- ., 19:43:15 09/26/16 Mon While in some cases I would agree with this logic, however a judge did not feel there was enough evidence to dismiss this case which tells me that Gravitt did NOT have the clear cut proof he claimed to have, if he did, the judge would have dismissed immediately! (NT) -- Seems obvious, 20:09:16 09/26/16 Mon It goes to the mediation process before it gets to the point where a judge decides if it is a case, thousands of dollars are spent on legal fees before the point of mediation. Most suits are settled in mediation, why spend more on legal fees to get to the point where a judge may dismiss, when you can pay less to make it just go away? (NT) -- Christi, 20:17:25 09/26/16 Mon And another sane comment. (NT) -- Bazinga, 12:36:39 09/28/16 Wed

Subject: Is there any updates on the date for the nevada pageant?
Author: - [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:14:14 09/26/16 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Results: 4th RU- Julian Nicole 3rd RU- Susan Romanish 2nd RU- Amanda Jenkins 1st RU- Kimberly Andres Winner- Lauren York (NT) -- Results of Miss Nevada USA 2017, 17:36:16 09/26/16 Mon Miss Nevada USA/Miss Nevada Teen USA will be held on November 13, 2016. (NT) -- , 18:37:27 09/26/16 Mon* posted image Stefanie Joseph for Nevada! (NT) -- SweetDarling, 21:21:02 09/26/16 Mon Arielle is competing too! image hosting site and also, Jade Kelsall's first runner-up, Dashenka Giraldo is coming back too! (NT) -- SweetDarling, 21:22:45 09/26/16 Mon Both of those girls are gorg! From these pics, I would go with Stefanie Joseph. Nevada always has a great line up though. I'll wait for the whole roster to decide. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 14:55:34 09/27/16 Tue She looks like a very beautiful former man (NT) -- masculine is the new black, 16:24:55 09/27/16 Tue WOAAH, my jaw dropped, she is gorgeous (NT) -- CalFan, 00:56:44 09/28/16 Wed Those 2 girls are gorgeous but miss nevada usa 2017 is between lauren york and kimberly andres! (NT) -- Those two will be the final 2, 22:42:11 09/26/16 Mon a big no for stefanie joseph (NT) -- betty, 08:51:08 09/27/16 Tue she looks like Helen Salas (NT) -- Nothing wrong with that in my book, 12:34:49 09/27/16 Tue

Subject: MASSACHUSETTS - NEW JERSEY; if you could have any girl represent these states, who would they be (assuming she hasn't had a baby, aged out, or gotten married)?
Author: Groove [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:53:14 09/23/16 Fri Here are my selections! MASSACHUSETTS, Amanda Soucy MICHIGAN, Sarah Gerberding MINNESOTA, Lindsay Becker MISSISSIPPI, Jayce Henry MISSOURI, Alex Spry Missouri was very difficult for me, because I LOVE Bayleigh Dayton and I'd be stoked if either two won this weekend. MONTANA, Brooke Bezanis (already crowned) NEBRASKA, Taida Pajazetovic NEVADA, Mariah Armknecht NEW HAMPSHIRE, Elyssa Spenard I'm not sure what Elyssa's chances are of winning in NH, due to her shocking exclusion from the Top 10 last year. Rumors were that the directors didn't agree with some modeling choices she made. IDK. I 'd still like her to win, cuz she'd never leave my Top 15. NEW JERSEY, Alex Lakhman Tell me your thoughts and who YOU'D like to see win these coveted titles (in the perfect world)! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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1st Runners Up for each state: MA- Kimberly Howe...MI- Alysa Madej...MN- Wynona Schewe...MS- Carly Hadaway...MO- Bayleigh Dayton...NE- Lauren Brown...NV- Lauren York (a big favorite here!)...NH- Alissa Latham...NJ- Jordan Rector (NT) -- Groove, 17:05:38 09/23/16 Fri Minnesota, Lyndsay Becker (NT) -- Bazinga, 17:28:20 09/23/16 Fri She's dress shopping for MN USA so I guess she's doing it! (NT) -- ;), 12:34:23 09/25/16 Sun Even if she competes, Lindsay falls completely flat on stage. (NT) -- ., 08:08:10 09/27/16 Tue I, of course want Lindsay for Minnesota! :) (NT) -- USBModStacey, 18:52:20 09/23/16 Fri I had a feeling you'd like this ;) Do you know if she's competing this year? How many years does she have left? (NT) -- Groove, 11:38:28 09/24/16 Sat :) I am not 100% sure she is competing this year, but she had BETTER! :) she is 26 now and turns 27 next August, so I think she still has 2 years left? I am so confused with the new age requirements :) LOL (NT) -- USBModStacey, 12:14:09 09/24/16 Sat Perhaps you can put a little bug in her ear to do so? Perhaps? IJS, if Lindsey won, she'd probably NEVER leave my prediction for Miss USA. (NT) -- Groove, 20:31:22 09/24/16 Sat the bug was placed even after Miss International last year... :) (NT) -- USBModStacey, 16:48:28 09/25/16 Sun Will Vanessa Vonbehren compete this year (MN) due to the age bump? (NT) -- always liked her, 18:17:14 09/25/16 Sun This dress is just bad. (NT) -- Just bad, 20:09:40 09/27/16 Tue Whoa! Where'd you find that Nevada hottie? (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 22:40:25 09/23/16 Fri IIRC, Mariah competed in Nevada two years ago & made Top 10. She has some pretty risque & hot photos out there, so it looks as though she may be modeling FT & doing quite well. She was my Road To pick the year she competed. (NT) -- Groove, 11:52:48 09/25/16 Sun New Jersey- Michelle Torres and Michigan- Kelly Kirstein -- Sparkle, 23:46:57 09/23/16 Fri Nevada- 100% its between lauren york and kimberly Andres this year! (NT) -- Noone else has a chance, 15:20:56 09/24/16 Sat Mississippi is going be tough this year I believe most all the top 5 is returning. I know for sure April Mayfield, Jayce Henry, Olivia Haskins are back but not 100% sure about Chandler Short. They seem too be a lot of new girls and returning girls that are great so I believe it is going too be a good for Miss Mississippi USA. If we want our first Miss USA than crown Jayce Henry or April Mayfield I believe their the ones too bet and they could be the last two standing. (NT) -- MNA, 16:53:13 09/24/16 Sat Jayce is my #1 pick; do you know anything about Carly Hadaway competing this year? (NT) -- Groove, 20:32:45 09/24/16 Sat I'm not completely sure if she is competing. (NT) -- MNA, 07:36:28 09/25/16 Sun I agree with your Jayce comment; she'd never leave my Top 5 (perhaps winner) for Miss USA if she won. (NT) -- Groove, 11:55:18 09/25/16 Sun Jayce is short, doesn't look like her professional photos, and does not have a good walkin away away (NT) -- Will always place but won't win, 14:51:28 09/26/16 Mon Is Miss Michigan, Sarah Gerberding all natural? Her face is seriously a work of art. Those lips would make Kylie Jenner jealous. Was she born this way or did she do something to her lips? -- I also need to mention I don't mean to bash her. I'm a new fan, but I am curious., 02:51:04 09/25/16 Sun She is exotic but has been enhanced. Only slightly. (NT) -- Black pony, 15:12:17 09/26/16 Mon Her and Michelle Torres from NJ look very similar to me, like you said very exotic but I believe Michelle is all natural (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 19:39:30 09/26/16 Mon Since Sarah has competed in Teen, I've recalled her to have full lips. IDK, maybe she has had lip injections, but she's always had fuller lips to me, IMO. (NT) -- Groove nsi, 22:45:57 09/26/16 Mon In New Jersey i'm hoping it comes down to Jordan Rector or Amanda Pierce (either one could win USA) , Love Amanda Soucy and Elise Spanard! (NT) -- PGMomma, 11:06:18 09/25/16 Sun Any word if Spenard is competing? (NT) -- tristategurl, 13:25:33 09/27/16 Tue So sad to see but I just saw on social media that Jordan Rector has decided not to compete this year due to health reasons. (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 14:07:29 09/27/16 Tue her recent photos on instagram (that arent throwbacks to last year's pageant) It also looks like she has put on weight; just isn't as in-shape as she was. Doesn't look ready -- observer, 15:02:46 09/27/16 Tue Hopefully we will see her back on the stage next year, she's improved so much over the years. (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 16:05:47 09/27/16 Tue She definitely plans on returning next year! (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 16:36:35 09/27/16 Tue She was one of the girls in my top 5 for NJ this year. I'll have to wait for the roster to come out to see what other girl I like. (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 17:40:28 09/27/16 Tue she's gained significant weight. I'm sure it's a side effect of her health issues, so I'm glad she hasn't further sacrificed her health just to drop pounds fast for a pageant. I hope she gets better! -- ., 20:56:17 09/27/16 Tue

Subject: LEADERBOARDS - ROAD TO MISS USA 2017 & ROAD TO MISS TEEN USA 2017 CONTESTS 9-27-16...full scoreboard can be seen at www.voy.com/213733/

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ROAD TO MISS USA 2017

19 PTS
Crowned King-FL,IL,MI,MO, MT,RI,WY

15 PTS
Henry-FL,IL,MI,RI,WY

12 PTS
SXOXO-FL,MI,MO,MT,RI,WY

11 PTS
Athalia-MI,MO,MT,RI,WY
Crissy&Chexmex-FL,MO,MT,RI,WY
Scarlett O'Hara-FL,MO,MT,RI,WY
SexyDrew82-FL,MO,MT,RI,WY

10 PTS
BeenThereDoneThat-FL,MI,MO,RI
ETB_CA-FL,IL,MI,MO
PGMomma-FL,MI,MT,WY

ROAD TO MISS TEEN USA 2017

7 PTS
Jaime-MT,WI,WY
Paco-MT,WI,WY
XUXA-MT,WI,WY

6 PTS
AnnieA-MT,WY
NovR-MT,WY
PGMomma-MT,WY
ScarlettO'Hara-IL,MT,WI,WY
SexyDrew82-IL,MT,WI,WY
Vech-MT,WY

5 PTS
CrownedKing-IL,MT,WY
Jessica-IL,MT,WY
PFIndy-MT,WI,WY
Papiro-MT,WI,WY

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Subject: What is one thing production wise you wish your state did differently? In my state,(MD) top15 is called in gown. I wish they called in opening number outfits instead so the gown could be the big reveal.
Author: Red Pepper [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:50:19 09/24/16 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think Hawaii actualle already does a great job at putting together a pretty great and entertaining pageant. My only suggestion maybe would maybe get a little more creative with staging and adding a little something to the competition walk patterns to make it a little more exciting. (NT) -- HiJake, 19:59:16 09/24/16 Sat In SC (and maybe other RPM states) they have a very cheesy guy who sings and plays piano during gown. Every year it's just so ridiculous. (NT) -- Gadsden, 10:01:27 09/26/16 Mon I think he sang one year during gown, and they had a new host last year... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:04:37 09/26/16 Mon TN I feel does a good job. The set is basic, but if that keeps the entry fee down Im ok with it (NT) -- fan, 10:27:05 09/26/16 Mon NJ does the same thing, calling the top 15 in gown, I agree if they called them out in opening number outfits it would run a lot soother (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 11:25:09 09/26/16 Mon MD and NJ are run by the same people. I would like the 15 to be called in opening number dresses too, but I believe they do it that way so they can get going with the parade of evening gowns and have everyone out on stage (and happy) in the beginning. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 13:55:06 09/26/16 Mon What about two gowns? Can you get away with that? Because I would want two... (NT) -- Just wondering, 18:12:37 09/26/16 Mon I guess that makes sense then, and I guess a girl could do two dresses, depending on how fast she could change lol (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 19:35:01 09/26/16 Mon There's not enough time to switch into another gown. The parade of gowns ends with us all on the risers to learn to made the semis and then the top 15 (or whatever number) line up immediately backstage after they're dismissed to compete. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 19:38:51 09/26/16 Mon Oh well there goes that idea, makes sense now why we haven't seen it done before (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 19:44:25 09/26/16 Mon I love your handle btw! So cute! (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 14:56:52 09/27/16 Tue Thanks :-) (NT) -- Sashesandlashes, 16:35:59 09/27/16 Tue There's just so many ideas I have! haha I think it would be awesome if fellow contestants were able to submit questions for their states top 5 on stage questions. I would love to see more questions that show heart and humility like "What is the best compliment you've ever received" This gives the judges/audience an opportunity to see what a contestant values Vs. how well the can "float" along with hot topic/politically geared questions. (NT) -- S.B., 20:33:52 09/26/16 Mon Randy's state pageants. Boring backdrop and none of the girls remain on stage at the end (NT) -- :), 20:51:33 09/26/16 Mon Yeah it sucks they don't have the rest of the contestants on stage for the crowning (NT) -- oz-usb, 20:56:41 09/26/16 Mon

Subject: Are there any for sure favorites in your state that are returning?
Author: Please, only the CONFIRMED ones [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:57:39 09/21/16 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Devin Boyd is competing in LA as River City USA (NT) -- This is her last year, 09:58:52 09/21/16 Wed What is holding her back? I get the same feeling from Coble in NC. Both still amazing, competing but should've won long ago? But why hasn't Devin won yet, and if it weren't for the age bump she wouldn't be back. (NT) -- CROWN THIS BEAUTY FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!, 20:16:32 09/21/16 Wed Last year's results were just plain weird. She and the rest of the girls left as the top 10 should have been in the top five. She was incredible. (NT) -- oz-usb, 10:28:04 09/23/16 Fri not my state, but I'm dying for Tessa Dee to win South Dakota! She's a regulation hottie! Naturally super sexy. Really pulling for her!! :) (NT) -- SD all the way!, 13:24:04 09/21/16 Wed Jayce Henry and April Mayfield in Mississippi and it will be tough between those two in my opinion. (NT) -- MNA, 14:36:37 09/21/16 Wed Ohio -- annec, 17:52:30 09/21/16 Wed Okay for some reason only "Ohio" went lol. But basically all the runner ups from last year. From their social media, it looks like they all are 😍 (NT) -- annec, 17:55:33 09/21/16 Wed I would go for India Simone for Ohio! She would contrast with a couple of past reps and her alternative vibe would be a great addition at Miss USA. Not too crazy about any runner-ups from last year. If not India, then how about Alex-Taylor Deitz. ;) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 18:40:19 09/21/16 Wed See I love Taylor Diazmercado!! I think she is absolutely gorgeous and has a great shot at winning. Will India be returning this year? (NT) -- annec, 20:39:06 09/21/16 Wed Taylor Diazmercado & Courtney Rea would be my picks. I'm hoping Angela Judy (Audra Mari's twin, I swear) returns but I don't want her to win just yet. She has several more years of eligibility ;) (NT) -- Groove, 08:50:01 09/22/16 Thu I'm not sure if she's a favorite, but I'm excited that Lena Coco Hunter is returning to CA this year. (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 20:58:22 09/21/16 Wed As you know, I also adore Lena CoCo Hunter. Have you checked her instagram recently? It is FAB! And I noticed an interesting thing. For the 2010 pageant, she was Miss West Hollywood and now 7 years later she won her local title, Miss Hollywood! ;) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 10:10:57 09/22/16 Thu I have looked at her IG and she looks amazing. I hope that break helped her. CA is going to be tough this year. (NT) -- MadeYaLook (NSI), 14:19:22 09/22/16 Thu If she doesn't win, she needs to compete in Alaska, since she is from there originally. (NT) -- MadeYaLook (NSI), 14:21:11 09/22/16 Thu Shut up! She is?? I had no idea & yes, I agree, she should move. Alaska would finally have a placement after 27 years with Coco. (NT) -- Groove (NSI), 17:13:46 09/22/16 Thu She needs to have changed her attitude. She's been known to stomp off stage and when she doesn't break finals. Saw it first hand. Also her stage presentation is over the top. She was also on a reality show on E which showcases her bad attitude. (NT) -- Intheknow, 10:22:34 09/23/16 Fri How many identities does this girl have? Every time she competes she has a new name. Maybe it's to cover up her backstage behavior which I have also seen and concur it is not good behavior. There were at least two times - one time when she only made top 20 and one time when she didn't place at all - that she threw tantrums backstage, which the chaperones notice and undoubtedly inform pageant officials (which is probably why she will never win). She doesn't handle losing very well and at one point tried to blackmail a former Miss CA USA and get her dethroned. So based on what I have seen and heard of this girl, she shouldn't be Miss CA USA or even Miss USA. (NT) -- CC, 05:33:00 09/24/16 Sat Though I wonder if by Alaska Native she implies that she is of Native American (Alaskan) origin or if she is born/raised in Alaska or both. I think it might be the former since on her instagram she wore many Native American costumes and stated she would like to be the first Native Miss USA. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 11:48:17 09/23/16 Fri I was at that pageant,she looked fantastic! She was miss photogenic that year (NT) -- fan, 01:28:16 09/23/16 Fri TN MAO is usually easier to predict than USA. I personally loved my rep from last year but usually its a you-never-know situation (NT) -- fan, 10:11:49 09/22/16 Thu I would like to see Sarah G in Mi, Courtney R in Oh,Destiny D in IN (NT) -- And Cobel. I think there are tons of beautiful short girls but the get lost in the USA stage 99 percent of the time Kiibo, 18:07:00 09/22/16 Thu TONS IN OKLAHOMA!!!!!!! (NT) -- o-k-l-a, 19:13:55 09/22/16 Thu "TONS" as in who? Mariah Davis? I'm hoping for her... (NT) -- Groove, 20:35:03 09/22/16 Thu She is not competing this year, not that I have been informed of! (NT) -- ok, 19:19:41 09/23/16 Fri SOUTH CAROLINA: 1RU Megan Gordon, 2RU Caitlin Russell, T10 Morgan Brown and T15 Emily Sapier are all confirmed to be returning. New to USA but strong contenders are Elee Diamaduros (NF when she competed in SC MAO but I saw her in a local and USA is a much better fit for her) and Callie Martin (2014 4RU in SC MAO on her first try, stunning and crazy fit) (NT) -- Gadsden, 21:06:12 09/22/16 Thu I seriously can't wait for the South Carolina pageant! It's going to be soooooo good! (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 10:15:30 09/23/16 Fri Keyla Childs is competing in SC again too! (NT) -- oz-usb, 10:25:51 09/23/16 Fri CA- Chelsea Gilligan (NT) -- Former teen, 09:56:50 09/23/16 Fri In NJ I loved Amanda Pierce, Michelle Torres and Jordan Rector (thought last year was her clear shot at the title) and I cant wait to see Chelsea Boone in Maryland (NT) -- Sparkle, 23:56:42 09/23/16 Fri Brittany Payne (Miss Earth USA) is competing in CA this year. (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 11:53:08 09/24/16 Sat I was at Miss Earth US this year when she gave up her title and she is so gosh darn lovable and charming! California is super competitive but she's probably going to end up being my pick. And she's even more beautiful in person. And really tall. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 13:21:17 09/24/16 Sat I like her.. but she seems like a MAO girl to me. (NT) -- MadeYaLook (NSI), 09:22:33 09/25/16 Sun Don't forget she was a runner-up to Natasha in 2015 :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 17:55:41 09/25/16 Sun I know Brooke Johnson- 1st runner up Miss AK USA 2014 is coming back this year, I'm excited to see what she's going to bring to the stage. I follow her on IG, she looks totally ready (NT) -- Benna1, 14:10:34 09/27/16 Tue

Subject: Weekend wrapup
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:31:04 09/27/16 Tue If you want to think about something other than the debates... well we've had a pretty awesome pageant weekend and profiles for all four new titleholders and the two results recaps are up! � Bayleigh Dayton Miss MO USA http://pageantupdate.info/miss-missouri-usa-2017-profile.html � Krista Ferguson Miss MI USA http://pageantupdate.info/miss-michigan-usa-2017-profile.html � Sophia Dominguez-Heithoff Miss MO Teen USA http://pageantupdate.info/miss-missouri-teen-usa-2017-profile.html � Kenzie Weingartz Miss MI Teen USA http://pageantupdate.info/miss-michigan-teen-usa-2017-profile.html Last edited by author: Tue September 27, 2016 06:38:39 Edited 2 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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not sure that she is the first african american winner from MO...I believe in the 90's/2000 there was an African American winner (NT) -- d, 07:19:04 09/27/16 Tue Are you thinking about KS maybe? http://missmissouriusa.com/halloffame.html (NT) -- oz-usb, 08:35:07 09/27/16 Tue She is the first African American Miss Winner, but Marissa Whitley was Vanbro's first AA winner, and Missouri's first national winner. Personally I think her national Teen win was fixed because of what happened to Larissa. (NT) -- Happy for Bayleigh., 12:52:34 09/27/16 Tue

Subject: Hi can anyone please send some sample photos of what the ladies are wearing at the state USA pageants? I know recently bandage dresses have been popular for interview, but also now there are even jumpsuits appearing. Any suggestions to the trends? This is my friend's second time in a state pageant...and trends keep changing it seems esp. since the change of owners with USA. Thank you so much! Links help too!
Author: GirlintheGoldenDress [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:33:51 09/26/16 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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oh and I meant pictures for interview at usa states...just to clarify...thank you! (NT) -- GirlintheGoldenDress, 22:37:36 09/26/16 Mon Here's a link to what some girls wore at Miss USA 2016: http://www.pageantupdate.info/interview-gallery-16.html I would suggest staying away from bandage dresses-they've been done and probably won't make the most memorable impression. In the end, of course, its more about the whole package than just one outfit, but I think we all agree every little bit helps. Good luck to your friend! (NT) -- DigiBeauty, 05:55:01 09/27/16 Tue Correction- these are outfits from state pageants leading to MUSA 2016 (NT) -- DigiBeauty, 05:59:29 09/27/16 Tue

Subject: MU 2016 in Vegas??
Author: Ooops [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:03:40 09/19/16 Mon The latest news is that Miss Universe 2016 will NOT be in the Philippines as reported. Apparently the Tourism Director (Teo) is spreading news and doing plans like crazy, without authorization of IMG Universe LP and the contract has not even been signed. Latest rumors say that the pageant might take place at the T-Mobile arena in Las Vegas come January, and then 2017 (as expected) will be held in the Philippines in October-November. Apparently the MUO has decided that Philippines will not be ready on time to conduct a proper pageant, aside from getting all the money they need to pay. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Being THE leading nation in the world has its privileges, meaning, its citizens are far more illuminated which translates into this (even in a pageant board filled with passionate pageant fans) there exist a majority who sounds reasonable, objective and well informed. It�s a compliment really. If you understood Spanish, French or a bit of Tagalog you would be surprised what irrational assessments people say in other boards as for example stating, as a fact, that the MUO2016 will be held in Manila when neither IMG/MUO or FoxTV has made the official announcement yet. (NT) -- LaRealit� D�HierCeLaRealit�D'Aujourd'hui, 08:56:24 09/20/16 Tue So "illuminated" and "reasonable" that Miss Universe 2016 will take place in 2017! (NT) -- LOL, 23:39:50 09/26/16 Mon omg this is all made up...the philippines is set to host, period. (NT) -- Paula, 18:43:25 09/19/16 Mon Well maybe it makes sense- there were rumors of terrorism threats as well and maybe more time to sort this out makes sense. Vegas is FINE. (NT) -- me3, 11:32:38 09/20/16 Tue If it's in Vegas, I am in there! Philippines would've been a really cool show though. But I'm all in favor of USA and Universe staying in Vegas for a few years until we can get a consistent schedule going. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 14:26:37 09/20/16 Tue If the pageant is in the Philippines, the pageant would air at 8:00 AM in the Philippines so it could be show live at 8:00PM in the eastern part of the USA. (NT) -- WilliamNYC, 18:32:05 09/21/16 Wed Same thing happened when they competed in Bangkok I think (NT) -- fan, 00:54:30 09/22/16 Thu I just want it to air live across all time zones in the US. I cannot stand that it airs on the east coast and social media is talking about the winner before it even starts on the west coast pst. With social media this and all reality shows need to air at the same time. (NT) -- -, 15:52:32 09/24/16 Sat What would best, I think, is if it is live on East Coast but also streamed live at the same time. Then anyone who wants to watch live can do so, and folks who want to see it at a "normal" time like 9 pm can have that as well. It seems to me that it shouldn't matter to the network as long as people are seeing the ads one way or another. -- MrCoconuts, 20:39:13 09/24/16 Sat IN MOSCOW .IT WAS 800PM AND WAS SHOWN IN THE USA I THINK DELAYED... (NT) -- NEW ENGLAND BEUATY, 21:30:45 09/23/16 Fri

Subject: MISSOURI RESULTS
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:31:20 09/25/16 Sun MISS MISSOURI USA 2017 SEMI-FINALISTS #missmissouriusa #missmissouriteenusa #pageantupdate Sara Allen � ComoMaikieta Brantley � West St Peters Montanna Neisen � Katy Trail Libby Martin � Moniteau County Lindsay Tiefenbrunn � Meramec Jacqueline Griffith � Highlandville Sydney Benson � Greater St Charles Kristen Mcdowell � Lake St Louis Ashley Hassell � Desoto Alexandria Spry � Wildwood Ashley Thakur � The Lou * MISS MISSOURI TEEN USA 2017 SEMI-FINALISTS #missmissouriusa #missmissouriteenusa #pageantupdate Molly Delano � Kansas City Brianna Bianco � Dixon Ashleigh Bedwell � Southeast Missouri Kendra Shelton � Greene County Morgan Donnohue � Appleton City Tinara Lynch � Sunrise Beach Amanda Isom � Vantage Credit Union Isabella Rouse � Kennett Emily Schneider � St Charles Jacqueline Janorschke � St Joseph Bailey Julian � Christian County Last edited by author:** Sun September 25, 2016 21:33:07 Edited 5 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Holy Sht the feed is so bad... I mean we are paying 18 bucks and it's a nightmare. (NT) -- nightmare., 19:49:12 09/25/16 Sun* QUICK! based on what we've watched, who is top 5 and who is taking the title? (NT) -- PAGEANTLUV, 20:08:30 09/25/16 Sun FYI I have to head off for an appointment, will miss Miss gown & top five announcements, but since it's running long I will hopefully be back for crowning! My Teen top five: I am LOVING Sophia Dominguez-Heithoff and Chloe Bartlett in Teen, predict they & the three returning RUs will be top five. Emily Schneider would be my wildcard. Miss is between Sam Bowers, Miriah Ludkte, Tori Kruse, Bayleigh Dayton. (NT) -- oz-usb, 20:25:32 09/25/16 Sun Well I picked the Teen top two lol (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:37:20 09/25/16 Sun Teen Top 5: Truman, Meramec, City of Fountains, Springfield, Parkville, (NT) -- MO, 20:51:02 09/25/16 Sun Miss Top 5: South KC, Spirit of Stl, Osage Beach, Kansas City, St Peters (NT) -- MO, 20:55:20 09/25/16 Sun City of Stl**** (NT) -- MO, 20:56:08 09/25/16 Sun Congrats to Bayleigh & Sophia! I only caught the Miss SS comp and would have gone for Tori or Sam based on that (& knowing how strong Sam is in interview), but she's still a strong pick. And Sophia is going to be a force to be reckoned with at Teen USA, came out of nowhere & owned that stage all night! (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:37:08 09/25/16 Sun Since you are adding MAO to your updates now, Sophia competed at Miss Missouri Outstanding Teen this summer (NT) -- mopageantgirl, 23:00:09 09/25/16 Sun I'm putting up a page of former MAO/MAOT titleholders who compete, not state contestants. But I did actually note that in the facebook group, in fact not only did she compete she was actually a non-finalist (& prelim gown winner)... and now she's Miss MO Teen USA! (NT) -- oz-usb, 23:07:17 09/25/16 Sun LOVE the Miss winner's dress!!! Where did she likely get it? (NT) -- Who do you think is the designer?, 23:17:45 09/25/16 Sun Both of those teens are beautiful (NT) -- fan, 23:37:04 09/25/16 Sun At first glance I thought the miss was the teen winner and teen the miss winner. I had to go back and look at the crowns. Both are beautiful girls! (NT) -- congrats ladies :), 07:48:46 09/26/16 Mon Can someone tell me how Britney Janssen performed? I thought she was beautiful; she gave me an old Hollywood vibe. I'm surprised she didn't make the cut at all. I had her in my Top 5. (NT) -- Groove, 08:06:28 09/26/16 Mon I like the TEEN very much. And I will reserve judgement on the MISS until I see more photos. Based off of these pics I'm a little underwhelmed, but see potential. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 09:59:06 09/26/16 Mon Are those sarongs or plain white shirts the Miss are carrying? I know they have used both in the past. (NT) -- inquiring minds, 12:19:46 09/26/16 Mon New Miss Missouri USA looks very MissAmerica. Nothing sexy or wow about her. (NT) -- JOJO, 14:04:34 09/26/16 Mon Bayleigh Dayton is the first African-American to win Missouri USA. There are now 7 states that haven't had an African-American delegate at Miss USA: Mississippi, Arkansas, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming. (NT) -- Basketball Fan, 23:38:20 09/26/16 Mon The teen is really pretty. The miss has potential but I don't expect much from vanbros. Tx and IL remain my favorites. (NT) -- South star, 14:44:10 09/26/16 Mon

Subject: So why doesn't anyone ever talk about the United States organization or the girls who compete.... It seems quite legit and I have considered entering in my state but is it worth it?
Author: Curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:13:47 09/23/16 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm sure there's some forum, possibly voy, where you can specifically discuss this organization. Have you googled it yet? (NT) -- Groove, 16:56:07 09/23/16 Fri I have looked! There is absolutely none.. I was just curious why it wasn't talked on here. Miss America gets talked shot and I would consider miss United States far more relavent than miss America.. A lot of contestants after state competiton end up competing in United States! (NT) -- Curious, 20:40:59 09/23/16 Fri There's usually a lot of talk about it when the national pageant is going on. (NT) -- DMVPageantGirl, 22:38:48 09/23/16 Fri Miss United States could have been a respectable, good preliminary for Miss World (they completely blew it, both Julia and Miss Utd St. Org) and now Wilmer ended up with a third rated pageant with questionable results/not all states represented. But the truth is it simply cannot be compared with Miss America or Miss USA. Miss America's fees to enter are ridiculously low, they are on TV and they have a huge tradition and following (check guru, the most active message board on voy). Miss United States has enormous fees and is clearly for profit (without the prestige of Miss USA, also for profit) and I mean, 8 categories, 8 winners, WTF? I would say, it is good as preparation for Miss USA or Miss America, but the goal should always be these two (or Teen USA/MAOT is someone is younger). (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 11:02:13 09/24/16 Sat I can't keep up with that pageant. United States pageant was run by 2 guys in the early 2000's. They sold state pageants without having the rights to do so and scammed people out of a lot of money. One has since passed away. Then a former state or national titleholder took it over who lived in SC. And the national winners came from that state shockingly. I think it took a few years before anyone including the nbational director at the time realized she had zero rights to the name. And then it was taken over by a multi level pageant system. I am still unclear on if this is the same paegant that ran Mrs United States. I belive this is the system that had MUO state directors appointing or running the state Mrs pageants for that system. Sometimes a pagenat history is just so confusing it loses all credibility. As this pageant has. I am the first to admist how excited I was for the national world system. And now its a mess. (NT) -- stick to muo and international. Those are the only 2 that are consistant, 08:26:47 09/24/16 Sat Wow thank you all for the info!! I wanted to do it last year but was hesitant.. I will say I'm not sure how expensive miss America is but United States is actually twice as cheap as USA.. At least for my state. And you are able to win local titles to have your State pageant half paid off! Unfortunately my state only picks tall girls for winners so it's discouraging to compete. (NT) -- Curious, 13:14:04 09/24/16 Sat I wouldn't put too much stock in what happened to the pageant in the early 2000's but it is back on the rise and living up to expectations. They recently partnered with Southwest Airlines and have assisted NFL New Orleans Saints punter Thomas Morstead in his project Team Comeback Kids with making sure children in Louisiana have school supplies to return to school. This organization is one pageant that actually gives back and isn't just about profit like most of the others. The entry fees are much less than most and they are consistent. They don't allow contestants to enter for free while charging others thousands of dollars like unethical systems. I would actually look to see Miss United States on tv soon. The pageant is great and the whole pageant experience is fun and well ran. (NT) -- US is on the rise!, 17:37:38 09/26/16 Mon I just looked it up myself, Miss United States is gorgeous. Looks like they are doing great things. -- BellaBow, 21:50:29 09/26/16 Mon

Subject: MICHIGAN RESULTS
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:07:14 09/25/16 Sun Full results in one place :) Sorry I couldn't do this earlier... busy day. And I'm utterly kicking myself because I picked both girls... then fell asleep early before I played the Road To :'( I literally can't with people who don't think Krista is worthy winner lol. CONGRATULATIONS TO KRISTA FERGUSON, MISS MICHIGAN USA! 1RU Laura Esqueda � Heart Of Michigan 2RU Alyse Madej � Garden City 3RU Samantha Skowronek � Lake State 4RU Brittany Horgan � Grand Rapids SEMI-FINALISTS KT Maviglia � Monroe Sarah Gerberding � Boyne City Chelsea Jenkins � Pure Michigan Ariees Spangler � Swartz Creek Kelly Kirstein � Madison Heights Sierra Bognear � Livonia Nora Hussein � Eastern Michigan Mari Doan � Ferndale Treshon Jenkins � Oakland County Marinela Margegaj � Clinton Twp CONGENIALITY - Lindsey Oprisiu � Canton PHOTOGENIC - Krista Ferguson � Northshore Bay CONGRATULATIONS TO KENZIE WEINGARTZ, MISS MICHIGAN TEEN USA 2017! 1RU Alma Cooper � Great Lakes 2RU Alexis Lubecki � Heart Of Michigan 3RU Aria Hutchinson � Downtown Plymouth 4RU Haley Brach � Anchor Bay SEMI-FINALISTS Keri Martin � Livonia Kai Movrich � Upper Peninsula Audrey Dunlap � Brighton Alexis Fagan-Williams � Pure Michigan Kassidy Myers � West Bloomfield Suzana Smakaj � Sterling Heights Rocke� Jones � Mid-Michigan Alyssa Wojcik � Clinton Twp Ina Dervishi � Plymouth Julia Duffrin � Jackson County CONGENIALITY - Promise Bingham � Royal Oak Twp PHOTOGENIC - Haley Brach � Anchor Bay Edwin's photos are up: Last edited by author: Sun September 25, 2016 00:46:58 Edited 3 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wow the Teen! she is looks like a Miss Teen USA already (NT) -- I love Krista too, she was my pick, 04:28:48 09/25/16 Sun The Teen looks like a great choice and she is tall! She reminds me of Catherine Laurion. The Miss has a great body and is a good choice, but overall I find the class of 2017 significantly below average. I do not think I see Miss USA or even top 5 finish in ANY of the delegates that were crowned up to now. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 12:06:05 09/25/16 Sun I think at this point every year I dont think there is a top 5 finish for the girls chosen already. Granted I think they are all pretty but sort of agree with you. I am the most disappointed in MI's results. Sarah easily was probably the face of the pageant and along the caliber of beauty we use to see on the Miss USA stage. I mean Krista isnt the worst choice. I just didnt see it coming. Krista reminds me of Liz Cardillo. I have high hopes about the rest of the year. I love TX IL and RI so far. Not sure if any will place but we shall see! (NT) -- South star, 13:17:46 09/25/16 Sun I meant I do not see any of current titleholders being in the top 5 at Miss USA. I agree with you about Sarah Gerberding. She has a gorgeous face and is generally well prepared. Also, Kelly Kirstein ending up her pageant career not even making top 5 once is a bit questionable. I believe these two would have been excellent choices. As for Krista, if the emphasis was on great body/fitness, her win is completely deserved. She is a good choice, but I think there better all around girls that competed. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 13:25:39 09/25/16 Sun Wait is Kelly done competing too? That's a bummer if she is. Michigan based up on two really great beauties Sarah and Kelly. I can't wait to see what they do with Krista though. I feel as though she will be one to watch as far as transformations go. (NT) -- South star, 13:31:40 09/25/16 Sun Kelly is 27. She actually benefited from the extra year extension. Even without top 5 at Michigan, she went to Miss Supranational (top 20). Sarah G. hopefully has not aged out, though I am unsure of her age. She competed at Teen in 2010. I believe she has two years left (just a guess). (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 13:41:58 09/25/16 Sun that sucks! Well glad she got a go at it. I think Sarah said she was done competing agree that she has at least two years left now. Maybe she will change her mind (NT) -- South star, 14:16:40 09/25/16 Sun You can tell Krista was well-liked by her peers. I love photos where the other contestants look so happy for the winner. I'm not sure yet about either queen, but I can't wait to see more! (NT) -- Groove, 12:04:39 09/25/16 Sun The miss just isn't my cup of tea. Not fan of her beauty. I love the first runner up, hopefully she returns next year! (NT) -- gAgA_x, 12:29:26 09/25/16 Sun So interesting how opinions differ. The first runner up would not have even made top 15 in my eyes. (NT) -- In the eye of the beholder, 12:58:34 09/25/16 Sun Laura Esqueda is really hot and beautiful, just google her modeling photos. Krista...her face just has always looked odd in my eyes. She has square face with long nose and long middle section of face. The distance between her eyes and mouth is too long. And then she has small thin eyes that don't fit the rest of her facial features. Just my opinion but the face is off. (NT) -- gAgA_x, 13:56:32 09/25/16 Sun I did google her. She is FAR from a model. Bedroom selfies are not modeling. I just do not find her attractive. At all. But I will not pick her apart like you chose to do with Krista. (NT) -- winner winner chicken dinner., 14:33:55 09/25/16 Sun Laura Esqueda confuses me... 4RU in 2015, then misses the cut entirely last year, then 1RU this year???!!! (NT) -- oz-usb, 19:40:43 09/25/16 Sun The Miss is okay but not the bombshell blonde that we saw so many of last year (NT) -- At USA I love Sarah I just don't get it but the teen is a great choice kibo, 18:30:56 09/25/16 Sun That teen is beautiful! Im liking the miss too (NT) -- fan, 18:32:33 09/25/16 Sun YES to both. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 09:59:46 09/26/16 Mon So pretty !!! (NT) -- Great winner, 14:50:00 09/26/16 Mon Hang on here I've just realised Liz Johnson, 2 x runner-up missed the cut??!! Anyone have an insight (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:11:11 09/26/16 Mon

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