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Subject: Azerbaijan 2014
Author: HawtPlusSeksi [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:19:32 07/20/14 Sun Javidan Gurbanova. I do not think she was featured before and I think she's got a great shot at semi-finals and beyond! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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If she comes to Universe looking like the bottom picture, then I say she has a great shot at making the cut. (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 04:53:44 07/20/14 Sun Rob, my friend I agree, she can place (NT) -- Jaime, 14:29:32 07/20/14 Sun She is lovely, but a website named "Big.Az" is not doing anyone any favors, LOL. -- Doot, 10:22:27 07/20/14 Sun Getting excited for new Miss Universe pageant. (NT) -- WilliamNYC, 12:56:31 07/20/14 Sun Just wish they would announce a date and location. It is almost August and still nothing. Come on MUO people have to plan flights, taking time off work, etc. (NT) -- Addison, 18:10:09 07/20/14 Sun In the past, we used to know dates and locations a good year in advance. I don't understand why it's so hard now. They know they have to have the pageant, so it's not like it's being sprung on them at the last minute. And if it's an NBC decision, it's one night, usually Sunday. I don't see why that's so hard to come up with. (NT) -- JennNYC, 18:45:29 07/20/14 Sun It's a good question. My guess is that they wait so they can try to maximize potential for profits and advertisers. If they decide a year in advance, some better opportunity might come along. I'm not saying this is necessarily a good strategy (in fact, I think they often end up settling for something less than ideal), but I'm willing to bet that's what's behind it. -- Doot, 19:46:04 07/20/14 Sun Not being difficult, but I don't understand what this means exactly? I would imagine most advertisers/sponsors would want their affiliation tagged to an event for as much time as possible. Longer time = longer period to milk their involvement. Maybe I'm just not understanding. (NT) -- I suspect MUO has potential hosts and potential dates, but for some reason or another NBC won't finalize a date pending how the rest of its lineup shapes up., 16:36:56 07/21/14 Mon My understanding is that it has a lot to do with NBC setting the air dates and how much the host venue is willing to pay. You pay "the big bucks", you choose your date, you pay chump change, you get what NBC gives you. And "chump change" has been the fee the past several years. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 16:42:45 07/21/14 Mon Don’t expect Sunday night, as NBC airs Sunday Night Football September to December. (NT) -- MLB, 16:59:26 07/21/14 Mon This makes sense. I always wondered why some years the pageant is on a Wednesday (Miss U 2012) and then others on a Saturday (Miss U 2013). I still don't quite get Doot's logic with the sponsors' and them having less time to promote their affiliation. (NT) -- Insider tips for sure!, 17:30:36 07/21/14 Mon I guess what I meant was that NBC or MUO might want to wait because if they settle on a location a year in advance, say, Cleveland, Ohio, they might find out 6 months later that a Japanese company wants to sponsor the whole pageant and buy a ton of advertising if they'll hold the pageant in Tokyo. Oops, sorry, we're committed to Cleveland. I don't know the actual kinds of negotiations that go on, but I'm sure there are lot of people trying to maximize benefits to NBC/MUO by choosing exactly the right moment to commit to a location. -- Doot, 22:12:41 07/21/14 Mon Given its track record as of late, I think MUO would rather secure a host earlier rather. They seem to be scouting about a year in advance but end up having hosts back out for some reason or another. (NT) -- Me thinks they are asking for too much $$$$., 10:21:02 07/23/14 Wed totally with you.... (NT) -- ctbeauty, 12:02:08 07/23/14 Wed She really is a beautiful girl! I could see it going either way... She could come styled to perfection, poised and confident... Or she could be a mess and fade into the sea of contestants. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:23:32 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: Molly in AZERBAIJAN
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:23:20 07/22/14 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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http://peru.com/mujeres/belleza-y-moda/jimena-espinosa-miss-peru-se-prepara-miss-universo-noticia-264254 According to this, if true, Baku Azerbaijan will host MU 2014. Can anyone verify this? (NT) -- me3, 20:03:48 07/22/14 Tue Molly will be visiting Colombia in August. As for Azerbaijan hosting Miss Universe, I would wait until Miss Universe org. makes official announcement. (NT) -- WilliamNYC, 20:15:43 07/22/14 Tue Strange she has not visited Venezuela AT ALL. Sad commentary on how disconnected pageants really are from the real word. (NT) -- Biggest pageant powerhouse in the world but their own Miss Universe can't even visit home., 23:36:27 07/22/14 Tue She did go to Venezuela around Christmas time to he with her family but it wasn't an official visit. I think the last thing MUO wants is a riot at her homecoming, there's only so much they can do to protect her. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 11:18:22 07/23/14 Wed Just so queenly and regal. so poised whether standing up or sitting down. -- g, 08:10:11 07/23/14 Wed Regal is the perfect word for Gabriela. She reminds me of a modern day Eva Peron.... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:21:24 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: Miss Teen USA gowns!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:31:18 07/22/14 Tue I can't remember another year where we had gown photos for all the titleholders before Miss Teen USA! Who would you like to see where their state gowns? Who do you think has X-factor? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Florida and Washington! (NT) -- are the standouts, 00:19:36 07/23/14 Wed Definitely Washington and Alabama - Very Elegant !! (NT) -- PageantEyes, 00:30:44 07/23/14 Wed VA (NT) -- Phyllis, 11:07:53 07/23/14 Wed One thing the girls should take into account is that no teen with a dress that has a slit has won the pageant since at least the 90s maybe even before that. Apparently a slit must read too Miss and I'm sure that is something the judges are told to avoid. (NT) -- USAFan191, 11:19:28 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: In pageant news, Amanda Longacre has filed her lawsuit against BOTH MAO & the state org, Miss DE (MAO). She is seeking $500K in damages for herself & $2.5 mil for other contestants that also competed & were too old, per MAO rules.
Author: Anon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:50:49 07/16/14 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I never understood why the age cutoff in MAO is considerably young. I mean the girls that compete look so old anyway so it hardly even matters, plus they want the girls competing to present themselves as mature women and 20 something girls CAN be mature but the majority of the time not really. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 00:07:21 07/17/14 Thu I know right!!! It blew my mind when I found out that girls at Miss America were under 25. Especially in the early 2000's...they all looked like soccer moms. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:37:43 07/17/14 Thu Miss America cut off used to be much older, but it was reduced to 24 because, as it's a scholarship pageant & that is their focus, they wanted the young women to be of college age. (NT) -- Tiki Java (not signed in), 17:12:39 07/17/14 Thu That's such crap that MAO would do that. So a 26 year old girl that got into vet school, medical school etc aren't worthy of one because they're too old? I wish they would see that education doesn't necessarily end after girls get their bachelors when they're 21. That's something that should seriously change. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 19:29:47 07/17/14 Thu That is still a crappy reason because so many people continue their education after age 24. What about graduate school, law school, medical school, mbas? I started grad school at age 26. (NT) -- Serena van der Woodsen, 11:12:42 07/21/14 Mon I'm not surprised this is happening. Good for her. Unlike Sheena Monin or however you spell her name, this girl has substance to her claim. There's fault on both sides, but the DE Org is ultimately to blame (I think). Punitive damages might be capped in her state....don't actually know, so don't let these figures freak you out, because they always go after the jugular in the first round. Things will temper out and it'll likely settle out of court somewhere down the line. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 00:07:32 07/17/14 Thu I agree that the DE MAO Organization shouldn't have signed off, but ultimately you should know the rules of something you choose to compete in. She admitted in an interview yesterday that the date cut off was in a document she signed, just no one said anything to her. If she was a basketball player, she would need to know things like lane violations/three second rule. Just because a ref doesn't call a lane violation every time doesn't mean the rule doesn't exist. She needs to know the rules. (NT) -- FlawLESS, 09:03:51 07/17/14 Thu If I get pulled over for going 50 in a 25 mile-per-hour zone I can't say I didn't see a sign posted. I still get the points and the fine. A) she's misguided, and B) $500k? That's a joke. Put a price tag on being Miss Delaware. What, maybe $20k? (NT) -- ..,., 09:47:36 07/17/14 Thu I'm sorry... I dont see any validity to this. She was too old. She should have read the rules. Delaware caught it too late, but I dont think they are at fault for following the rules that she signed off on. This is a case of personal accountability and the blame game. Everybody looking for a buck... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 09:56:24 07/17/14 Thu I agree. She didn't read the eligibility requirements and is now crying foul ? Ridiculous ! (NT) -- kc, 12:00:37 07/17/14 Thu She's getting nowhere with this suit. (NT) -- DeeDee, 13:06:41 07/17/14 Thu She might have an e-mail from a Miss Delaware official stating expressly that she was within the age confines and that would be her ticket to victory. The Miss Delaware organization should settle and not allow any more publicity for THEIR error. (NT) -- Twinx, 13:29:29 07/17/14 Thu Would your opinion change if she was actively recruited by the local? I get the feeling they wanted her and were hoping her age would get by. (NT) -- just wondering, 15:06:50 07/17/14 Thu No. I dont like bogus lawsuits. This mentatlity that everyone gets a trophy is playing out too often. She feels slighted. Get over it!!! She didnt meet the eligibilty requirements. Regarless of who's fault it is, rules are the rules. Lawsuits do not need to be filed as a result. Waste of everyone's time and money, including a burdened judicial system. She should be sued for being a dummy and not reading the requirements, something that is stressed in this system. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:15:42 07/17/14 Thu Amen!! I completely agree. The MAO age limit is very well known. She signed contract to compete and in that contract stated the age requirements. To blame MAO is absurd. This sets a terrible example for all girls competing in a pageant. Its pathetic. (NT) -- she's trying to take advantage, 15:28:38 07/17/14 Thu MAO should fight this full force! Just like Trump fought Sheena. Otherwise, the door could open to anyone who wants to cry about something to file a lawsuit. When Sheena went crying, Trump sued her. smart move. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:35:59 07/17/14 Thu I couldn't possibly disagree more. This girl was RECRUITED, advised that she could win, cleared for her age, and spent all this money on an evening gown, coaching, etc because they told her she was eligible. It's not that they didn't "catch the error." They told her her age was within the range and she was fine. So she competed and now they go back on their word? Screw that. At the very least, she should get the money she put into it (NT) -- Former, 18:57:55 07/18/14 Fri even if they told her she compete, she should be smart enough to read her contract!!! everyone should read a contract from cover to cover to understand what they are signing up for. She signed that contract, if she didn't read thats her fault. legally, she lied on a sign contract and competed when she should not have. the rest is all hear say. you can say the pageant said here i'll give you the crown regardless of your age but thats all he said she said. she signed a legal document. end of discussion. (NT) -- Judge Judy, 19:52:46 07/18/14 Fri She DID read the contract. Try reading the posts before you respond. No one is saying she wasn't aware of the age restriction. It's exactly the opposite. SHE'S the one who brought it to the attention of TPTB (NT) -- Former, 23:18:37 07/18/14 Fri I'm completely onboard with you Former. That's outrageous she was recruited, spent the cash, all her time invested. The recruiters knew all along. Why do I know? Because it happened in my state! Ugh. I was recruiting a young lady, and figured out she was too old. Then, lo and behold when I went to the pageant, there she was up on stage. I thought maybe I had miscalculated, but I went back to my emails, and I hadn't. I'm wondering if some (in scholarship pageants) ask if they can enter without winning. My last statement has nothing to do with my experience of recruiting and her aging out. I'd be so upset if someone recruited and told one of my girls it was a "go" for them to compete, work all year and win, then told, "oh you are too old to have won....oops, my bad." Ugh (NT) -- 123, 15:32:08 07/19/14 Sat A pageant is a contest. There are state laws that govern a contest. MDSO didn't even know there a problem until after they sent the paperwork to MAO. Remember, it was MAO that caught the error. I highly doubt that the MDSO would have mailed the paperwork to MAO if they knew it was a problem. My point is the MDSO wasn't even aware of what the contract included. (NT) -- Lady June, 14:08:41 07/17/14 Thu If anyone happens to find a link to the complaint, I'd like to read it. I can't glean from the news coverage what her legal theory is here. And the fact that she's pursuing this as a class action is just, well, baffling. I feel a Rule 12 motion coming her way soon. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 14:50:45 07/17/14 Thu They should have allowed her to keep her title and scholarships and let the first runner up compete at Miss America. She won her state title outright, so she should have been able to keep it - it wasn't like she is 31, there was a gray area and the org didn't catch it. But really, she doesn't want the title back she wants the money. She's not going to go put on the crown now and face EVERYONE asking her "are you the girl who is too old?" at every appearance. She wants the money and justice - and the org should have seen that, let her keep the crown and sent the 1st RU to compete. (NT) -- ., 15:11:17 07/17/14 Thu ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! If you let her keep money and prizes you open the door for many more of these after-the-fact issues popping up, with these girls playing stupid. Rules are rules. She should have read the eligibility requirements and save herself alot of grief. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:18:09 07/17/14 Thu Per the posting on the GURU board about this, she actually does want the title back. She is suing for the money, to have the title re-instated, and to be able to compete at Miss America because even though she knew the age requirements per the contract, she claims she as well as other contestants were ACTIVELY recruited and were told they would be fine despite their ages. (NT) -- NFL, 16:16:39 07/17/14 Thu This actually greatly upsets me. I hate the philosophy that rules do not apply to everyone. I hope MAO sues her. She is a disgrace to pageantry. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 16:23:47 07/17/14 Thu Point is, much like Sheena, she can't go on what will be considered hearsay. She'll need actual proof-something in writing or a recording. I think this $2.5 million is ridiculous, especially since no other defendants are named. I don't think this will be another Rebekah Revels/Misty Clymer situation, however, were 2 girls from DE go to MAO while the court sorts out who is going to represent the state. Even if she has proof, I don't think she'll get the title back. Even if she did, as someone else already said, she won't have a prayer of going anywhere at Miss America. (NT) -- JennNYC (not logged in), 18:14:31 07/18/14 Fri I read somewhere that she got to keep her scholarship money, but not the title and the right to compete. I think that's very fair. She earned that money the night that she won, but they shouldn't move forward with letting her compete now that the error was caught (despite whose fault it may or may not be). It will set a very messy precedent for MAO if they let this girl go to Miss America, and I doubt that is something they want. But by the time she goes through all the legal steps, I'm sure Miss America will be over anyway. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 16:49:15 07/17/14 Thu Even if somehow she could get back the title, she has to sign a contract to compete at Miss America. That contract also has the age stipulation (not 25 before December 31, 2014). She couldn't sign it without lying.] (NT) -- puff, 18:00:36 07/17/14 Thu And that is precisely why she should not be allowed to compete at Miss America. She is too old to WIN Miss America. So let the girl who would have won compete at Miss A and let the girl who was crowned keep the title for the year and scholarship money - because the judges did select her to be the titleholder. (NT) -- ., 11:29:28 07/22/14 Tue Unless she can specifically prove that the Miss DE Org knew of her age and still told her she was allowed to compete, then I don't see this lawsuit going anywhere. I'm sure the anger and disappointment is still simmering, and it probably doesn't help if she was being egged on by someone to file a lawsuit (or hounded by the Gloria Allred of the pageant world to do so). It was a mistake and it was corrected. It should have been noticed sooner, but she should have been aware she wouldn't meet the age requirements. If she can prove that the org knew she wouldn't and gave her the green light, great. But if not, I see this being dismissed. And what's this $2.5 million about? For all the girls that couldn't meet the age requirement in the first place? I agree that the MAO has a weird restriction-24 seems too young-but there has to be a cut off somewhere. She should enjoy her scholarship money that they let her keep and move on. (NT) -- JennNYC (not logged in), 17:04:23 07/17/14 Thu Suppose she did win the case. Then she got to compete at Miss America this September. She probably wouldn't place anyways. The judges will probably know all about this and probably won't let her win anyways due to the controversy. She is better off to just end this once and for all and go on with the rest of her life. (NT) -- Anika, 17:18:48 07/17/14 Thu My understanding is that she was told by the local field recuiter that her age would not be a problem. Both parties were aware of her just missing the age restrictions. I think she was also needed in that local to meet the required number of contestants to award two titles. This is what I have heard, but I do not know. If these facts are true, I believe both the local & Delaware state org. DO have some liability here. Even if SHE is aware of the restrictions and is told by both stae & local it is "OK", they share in the blame here and can not just say "Well, you signed a contract." We'll see how this plays out. (NT) -- Tiki Java (not signed in), 17:18:56 07/17/14 Thu Although, I don't understand what all this about other contestants is.....? (NT) -- Tiki Java (not signed in), 17:22:53 07/17/14 Thu From what I read in the article about the suit's filing, there is an allegation that other girls who should not habe been eligible due to age were allowed to compete at Miss Delaware (MAO). (NT) -- Anon, 18:03:10 07/18/14 Fri Hold up! $500k + $2.5M? She's trippin'! What damage? I mean they already offered to give her the scholarship that she won ( or not won). I think that is more than fair. This is quite excessive, IYAM. I hope she gets nothing. (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 18:59:08 07/17/14 Thu She seriously needs to take some lessons from Elizabeth Fechtel's example of how to deal with a crappy situation with dignity. Except unlike Elizabeth, Amanda was partly responsible for getting herself into this mess. So she should be even more humble. Unfortunately she refuses to accept a skerrick of personal responsibility. (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:36:31 07/17/14 Thu Totally different situation, Oz. Supposedly, she knew she was too old, but was told by Miss DE people that she was fine. If what she says i s true, then basically, she was accepted despite the fact that she told them her true age and was straightforward about it. She then invested money and time in pursuing a title they told her she could win and collecting donations for CMN. I don't blame her one bit for suing (NT) -- Former, 19:07:06 07/18/14 Fri An aside here: thank you, Oz, for teaching me a new word-well, one I'd never heard before. "Skerrick". (NT) -- Salso., 00:39:45 07/20/14 Sun Age eligibility is very different in MAO from MUO. MUO only requires you meet the age requirement for the pageant, which explains why the reigning TUSA is 20. MAO requires you meet the age eligibility for the calendar year. What makes this interesting is that Amanda is eligible to compete at Miss America but since she ages out a month or so after the pageant; she cannot fulfill her year of service as Miss Delaware. The field director at the state level is responsible for ensuring ALL contestants meet eligibility requirements, before and after the pageant, which clearly did not happen with Amanda. Also, $$ is only earned by competing and placement at the local and state pageant so that is why she is being allowed to keep the scholarship money. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 09:52:29 07/18/14 Fri (NT) -- HoosierGirl, 11:16:18 07/18/14 Fri Both MAO and MUO are based upon age as of a specific date. This would be the same in all pageants. MUO is age as of Feb 1st and MAO is age as of Dec 31st. MUO age date is before their national pageants so you can age up a year before the pageant and MAO age date is after their pageant so you can age up during the year of reign. (NT) -- , 12:18:22 07/21/14 Mon* She signed a contract containing the above clause. It was notorized and sent to the Miss America office. So, essentially, she lied. I guess she can argue that she can't read - or didn't read - but she signed it. Now - was she recruited? Probaby. Did the Miss DE folks also screw up by missing the fact that she would be 25 before the end of the year? Yes. And I'm guessing that's why they agreed to go ahead and give her her scholarship. But beyond that, I find this lawsuit ridiculous. (NT) -- HoosierGirl, 11:19:35 07/18/14 Fri It was a review of Amanda's paperwork as a contestant for Miss America by the MAO national office that caught the rule issue with Amanda's age. (NT) -- Anon, 18:09:25 07/18/14 Fri Hoosier Girl, how do you figure she lied? If she filled out the form with the correct dates (which I understand she did), how was she lying? They made an error in accepting the applicant as being eligible, but I don't understand how you can say she lied. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:36:31 07/18/14 Fri I think where the interpretation comes from is the phrase "I understand that to be eligible to compete...etc" then the contract goes on to state the age parameters. She signed the contract stating that she understood that this is how age eligibility was calculated, yet she knew she was, if fact, ineligible. Surely she knew her own age well enough to know if she would be 25 by Dec 31, 2014. (NT) -- SouthernMissMom, 18:59:17 07/18/14 Fri Precisely, SMM. Thanks. (NT) -- HoosierGirl, 23:39:13 07/18/14 Fri She was told she was legible and questioned her directors. MAO really doesn't have much $$ to throw around, but at the very least they need to pull the local and state franchise from the Ed's (NT) -- Bonna, 01:21:38 07/19/14 Sat My issue is one of personal responsibility. She's nearly 25 years old, so it's time she learned it. She says she was recruited and told that her age was OK, which I believe is possible. And it's possible - and entirely likely - that MAO will pull the franchise of the current Miss DE org for this embarrassing error. But Amanda signed a contract in which she said she understood that, in order to be eligible, she must be no older than 24 on 12/31/2014. When asked about that on the Today Show, she just kept saying, "I didn't know." Well - you put your signature on a binding legal document that said you DID know. I'm so tired of people shirking their own personal responsibility when it comes to making mistakes. I don't know if she didn't read the contract or if she was told that it wasn't important. But she signed it. She has been given the winner's scholarship (which - BTW - was what she ORIGINALLY said was what she wanted.) I just don't see why she thinks she deserves anything more. (NT) -- HoosierGirl, 10:34:59 07/19/14 Sat THIS. (NT) -- oz-usb, 15:14:02 07/19/14 Sat And what if they told her "Don't worry about it. This is an old contract . The date of the pageant has changed but they just haven't changed the contract yet. Just sign this one for now."? (NT) -- Happens all the time., 20:09:11 07/20/14 Sun I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot barge pole. I'd ask them to reprint it with the terms they were stating and only then I would sign it. You don't sign something you know to be inaccurate. That would be a major red flag. (NT) -- oz-usb, 23:20:25 07/20/14 Sun Good for you Oz. But a lot of girls that young don't think that way. They are trusting the "expert" in the area. (NT) -- The organization shares in the blame., 23:46:21 07/20/14 Sun Then they're silly. WOuld you sign an apartment rental with the wrong dates simply because the agent said "oh it's actually going to be such and such"? No! I'd cross it out and write in the right ones. If there's one saving grace from this whole sorry saga, I'm hoping it's that she never signs a contract again without it being accurate. (NT) -- oz-usb, 00:11:02 07/21/14 Mon I'm sorry, but I agree with Oz. There is no discrimination based on age when dealing with legal documents. If you are 18 or older, if you sign something it is gold (unless signing under duress, which she did not). This girl needs to accept responsibility and move on... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:52:10 07/21/14 Mon This is what bugs me about this whole situation. She had to sign the contract and submit a copy of her birth certificate. Plus she had to sign the state contract with the same age sitpulations as her local. She saw the age requirements at least twice and I'm sorry but if you have to send a copy of your birth certificate you know someone is going to look. I do believe she could have been mislead the first time but you don't sign the same thing twice without knowing that those are indeed the requirements. It's a slap in the face to every young woman who has aged out gracefully. She should say thanks for letting me keep the scholarship and let it go. (NT) -- amed, 21:37:43 07/20/14 Sun Exactly! But she says the age limit thingy? It was buried in the contract. She actually said that. It was probably on page 2. (NT) -- ..,., 21:51:35 07/20/14 Sun She signed a legal document-the responsibility lies on her shoulders (NT) -- taylor, 22:25:38 07/20/14 Sun Which was ratified by the local and state board and one that she questioned and was reassured about. Sorry dear the local and state boards play a huge part in bearing the responsibility (NT) -- Babsj, 00:09:34 07/21/14 Mon Nope. I dont care if God was hovering over her and told her it was okay to sign. Responsibility lies in her corner if she is the one signing the document, especially one declaring that she understands the rules and guidelines in place. Regardless of what she was "told" behind closed doors, she signed this document which in my mind places all responsibility on her shoulders. I expect more from contestants when they read and sign paperwork, especially in the MAO system... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:39:50 07/21/14 Mon Have you ever bought a house? If so, did you read every single word in the contract, or did you rely on your closing attorney that everything was correct and legal? Most people rely on the professional. I know I did. That's why I hired an attorney, because I didn't understand all the legal wording. To her these directors were professionals at what they do. She never once lied about her age. IF the local directors assured her there was no issue with the written contract (that it was an older copy of the contract, to be updated), that too could be considered a verbal contract. Her being allowed to compete not once, but twice, could be considered acceptance and validation of that verbal agreement. (NT) -- Tired of organizations taking advantage of the girls., 11:13:20 07/21/14 Mon Two things. Oral contracts are superseded by written contracts. So whatever she was told orally was negated by what she agreed to by signing a written contract. Also, she cannot claim that she relied on a professional's advice and instruction on the contract because local and state directors in MAO are VOLUNTEERS not legal experts. If she had concerns about the age clause in the contract, she should have asked an attorney to look it over. Also it should be significant that she was misled, intentionally or not, by volunteers, not paid employees if the organization. It is much harder to hold volunteers to oversight and accountability than it is for paid employees. (NT) -- Midwester, 11:59:39 07/21/14 Mon Bingo. As an adult, regardless of age, if you sign a written contract the legal advise you consider does not matter. You signed it, not your lawyer. When signing such contracts you are stating that you understand it fully and will abide by any terms associated with it. I'm sorry, but I thought every educated adult knew this. Its not rocket science! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 12:39:14 07/21/14 Mon And what I remember from my business law class is that there are always loopholes. Circumstances can and do effect the outcome of court cases regarding contracts. Contracts, contrary to your opinion, are not iron clad. (NT) -- from an educated adult :), 18:20:35 07/21/14 Mon There are not "always loopholes." Generally speaking, you're bound to what you sign. There are some narrowly-defined defenses, but in most instances, you're going to be stuck with the agreement you signed. It's kind of funny that she's suing, given that, on paper, she's the one who lied. Even if it's true that someone duped her into competing even though she knew she was too old, she's basically saying, "Hey, they told me my fraud was okay! That's why I lied!" Pretty ballsy. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 21:34:27 07/21/14 Mon Yes, because young college age kids have the $500 per hour fees to pay an attorney to look over a pageant agreement. Give me a break. (NT) -- unrealistic, 19:26:17 07/21/14 Mon Title Ten of the Delaware Code does provide some "volunteer" shield protection for civil liability resulting from ordinary negligence. Those same shield laws, however, do not provide the same protection for gross negligence or recklessness. If the volunteers intentionally misled this woman, then they should be sued. At least to cover the cost of her competing. (NT) -- Accountability on ALL sides needs to take place., 16:30:11 07/22/14 Tue If she has emails that confirm that she was eligible then she has a case. I can't believe anyone would defend a state organization that had royally fucked up. NV and DE need their franchises pulled. If she went by an outdated contract she was presented with that indicated she was legible the state organization is screwed. Also sending two Miss Nevada OT'a sets a precedent of allowing Miss DE to move fforward. (NT) -- Babsj, 01:55:13 07/22/14 Tue The MAO really just can't catch a break. Came out this morning that there are now TWO Miss Nevada Teens going to compete at Miss America's Outstanding Teen. The girls leave next week and no word yet on why two girls are suddenly going. Nevada was the state that crowned sisters as their Miss and Teen back in June (NT) -- Former, 06:48:39 07/21/14 Mon Read on Guru board that after auditing, the winner was downgraded to 1RU. The Miss NV (MAO) org is sending both girls to prevent a lawsuit from the family of the 1st girl crowned. That could have been more uncomfortable for the Miss winner who is the sister of the Teen. (NT) -- Anon, 08:28:03 07/21/14 Mon OMG and here folks we have a perfect example of everyone gets a trophy! The girl that won turns out she did not really win, so lets allow her to go to Nationals anyways to not hurt her preshush feelings. No. She did not win. This is Miss Americas Outstanding Teen for god sakes. I can't beleive the girl that did not really win is still going. How can she really stand on that stage and compete? (NT) -- jmo, 10:11:53 07/21/14 Mon Agree... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:41:29 07/21/14 Mon Appears to be more of a case of covering their butts until the issue is resolved, especially since it's so close to competition (a la Miss NCs Clymer/Revels in 2002). (NT) -- puff, 12:53:11 07/21/14 Mon Uh, I think you need to learn more about the story before posting this sort of thing. The girl they now claim won wasn't even in top 5. If she wasn't in top 5, then how do they know she would have won? In top 5, ALL scores are thrown out and the judges simply rank. So if this girl wasn't in top 5, how can a reasonable person deduce that she won? (NT) -- Former, 23:08:47 07/22/14 Tue I think she won most of the big awards. I wonder if after the pageant the judges got together and thought something was way off I.e. Taking the girl with the highest scores out of the top 5. If there was tampering with the scoring, it's going to get very messy. (NT) -- Babsj, 01:22:24 07/23/14 Wed But the rules state that in top 5 all scores are thrown out and the judges rank the girls. There have been pageants (Miss Alaska this year) where the 1st RU has won all the awards and clearly would have had the highest score, but she still lost because all scores are thrown out in top 5. No one will ever know who the true winner would have been had the real top 5 been ranked (NT) -- Former, 06:48:02 07/23/14 Wed That's so messy! Why is it so hard to verify the results?! This should not be happening multiple times within one pageant season! MAO should invest in some sort of training or something. (NT) -- Athalia, 11:02:47 07/21/14 Mon Or it's not really happening and they are changing the results to their liking. (NT) -- Hope not., 11:15:57 07/21/14 Mon For those keeping score, that's 4 states where this happened in MAO this year: DE & FL in Miss, CO & NV in Teen. (NT) -- Anon, 18:44:30 07/21/14 Mon You would think in this era it would be a lot easier to verify the scores than it was before. How closely do they check them to make sure they have the correct results? I do feel sorry for the girls involved, including Amanda. She was robbed out of a chance to go to Miss America, and whether that's her fault or the orgs (I'm thinking both), it still stinks for her. Same with the other girls who either missed that crowning moment, or thought they were heading to the big stage and found out they weren't. This year, for however briefly they won, may have been their only shot at actually winning. I'm still confused on the NV controversy-I understand that a tabulation error left a girl out of the top 5 completely, and now she's heading to MAOT along with the other rep. But how do they know that she would have won the actual crown? I kind of feel like that cheats the other girls who made the top 5 and were RUP. I don't follow MAOT, so it might be something simple I'm missing. (NT) -- JennNYC, 18:57:09 07/22/14 Tue No, Jenn, you'r enot missing anything. That's exactly right. That's why I don't blame the girl they originally crowned at all. How does anyone know who WOULD HAVE won had the girl in question been included in top 5? (NT) -- Former, 23:10:32 07/22/14 Tue I'm only speculating but I imagine there may have been a big wtf moment among some the judges. This may b an issue with vote tampering. (NT) -- Babsj, 01:30:19 07/23/14 Wed Easy solution, SEND one girl this year, another girl next year without organizing a pageant next year! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 17:03:15 07/22/14 Tue Knowing how MUO loves scandal, I suspect we will have a similar issue heading into Miss USA 2015. Don't underestimate the PR machine they have working (although its not clear if their brains are actually working). (NT) -- Would be great if a robbed 1st RU gets to compete alongside the "wrongly" crowned girl., 11:53:19 07/21/14 Mon Does anyone know where Sheena Monnin is now after the ruling that she owed muo $5 mil? Is she back in school/paying off the debt, ext? (NT) -- AH, 12:13:44 07/21/14 Mon I wondered about that too? What was the best solution in her case, declaring bankruptcy? (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 21:42:19 07/21/14 Mon I know a lot of people on the board dislike her, but I feel bad for a pageant girl having to file bankruptcy over an argument with Donald (I know it's more than that, but it got kinda personal). (NT) -- Phyllis Darnell, 12:30:09 07/22/14 Tue Remember about 11 or 12 years ago when there were two Miss South Carolinas? One had her title taken away but sued (or threatened to sue) so both went to nationals? My daughter and her cousin dressed up as the two Miss SC for Halloween that year and it was hysterical although not everyone "got it" when they were trick-or-treating. They had gowns, crowns, rose bouquets and faux fur stoles as it was cold! (NT) -- This isn't the first time for MAO duo contestants, 20:02:13 07/22/14 Tue It was Miss NC and only one girl competed. Both went to rehearsals, but the courts settled it before prelims began so only one girl competed (NT) -- Former, 23:12:04 07/22/14 Tue I agree with those who say that Amanda Longacre may have a case against the Miss Delaware Organization if she can prove they recruited her and told her to overlook the age requirement on the contract. But I don't see how she has a case against the MAO, unless she can demonstrate the national office was aware of what happened in DE and didn't stop it before Longacre won the state pageant. That seems like a stretch, though. (NT) -- BamaMan, 06:50:32 07/23/14 Wed Now that corruption was proven in Nevada in the MAO Teen pageant, their solution was to send to two contestant to the Teen pageant. Wonder if this will help support Amanda case. (NT) -- Lady June, 08:25:46 07/23/14 Wed How was corruption proven in NV? (NT) -- SMM, 11:00:29 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: Have the interview videos been posted yet for the teens?
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Subject: A Suggestion to the Moderators
Author: Suggestion [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:46:57 07/23/14 Wed Just a suggestion to the moderators. Many posters have a problem with Iceman. This is due to his gay comments and Russia comments. Perhaps, in order to allow peace and members to return, Iceman can change his name and others will not know it is him. I talked to several people who left the board and they feel the same way. There are hard feelings and perhaps this could resolve the issue. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It would help if he would dial down the self-righteous and condescending. His posting tone has gotten progressively cattier and downright hostile depending on the topic. Getting to be as bad as Vegas, may she rest in former poster peace. (NT) -- Just saying., 10:09:51 07/23/14 Wed Dear Poster - Thank you for your feedback. Your IP address has been tracked for the past week after YOU continously single out and attack Iceman. You should know as all of your comments have been removed. We store those messages in our archives. Ultimately YOU are more of a detriment to this board by making personal attacks on a poster...which will not be tolerated. Consider this your official warning. Reading over comments in our archives there are no derogatory comments made by Iceman on gays (he's pro-gay) or Russia (that's his heritage and cannot change that!). He is a valued poster on USB and his insight on pageantry is and continues to be his focus.If you have any other feedback, please contact us personally via email by clicking on the Mod Squad contact button at top of the board. (NT) -- Qban, 10:12:51 07/23/14 Wed Ha... Thanks Qban! Truthfully I think this all stems to the Louisiana America board. They are in a frenzy because I got asked to judge a local MAO prelim (Miss Shreveport). Their meaningless words are very transparent. Thanks again, you moderators do a great job... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:16:25 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: Nia at The Bank
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:05:26 07/22/14 Tue Nia Sanchez - Nia Sanchez hosts the official Miss USA Lady's Night Out party at The Bank - Las Vegas, Nevada, United States [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Beautiful. I'd like to see her experiment a little more with her hair, though. Perhaps up, sideswept, 1920s glam waves, etc (NT) -- DAPHNE, 00:32:20 07/23/14 Wed Yes!! I'd also love to see her in some sexy, messy bed head! (NT) -- Maybe even as a blonde?, 10:01:04 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: 10 Things you didnt know about Miss USA
Author: MissUSAFan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:14:56 07/17/14 Thu I find her to be so personable and relatable. Sure, her voice is a little different then the past Miss USAs but you can't help but like her! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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http://youtu.be/XIDRi5BbojQ (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 15:16:17 07/17/14 Thu Ok so I love that picture of her that's there on the still image. I love Nia, but this wasn't the most engaging interview for me. Can't wait to see her out on some fabulous red carpet events! (NT) -- BreeZe, 15:20:26 07/17/14 Thu And BTW I don't blame Nia- I just think that TPTB could have done a slightly better quality video (some better lighting? ) (NT) -- BreeZe, 16:24:59 07/17/14 Thu She's adorable; very personable and likeable. However, I think the slight nasal quality to her voice may be either allergies or she may have a slight deviated septum. (NT) -- delilah, 15:54:35 07/17/14 Thu She's very pretty and wholesome looking. Any girl that's a sexy glamazon should really give competing a second thought-this is the kind of girl MUO wants. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 19:33:19 07/17/14 Thu Coffee is the juice of the gods baby! Get! She looks incredible. Also, if she wants to go to the Philippines, all she has to do is attend the country pageant as a special guest. I'm sure Madame would be pleased as punch and foot the bill (Or MUO but rumour has it they're cheap like that). (NT) -- eloise, 21:33:47 07/17/14 Thu Who knew? (NT) -- lol, 16:11:09 07/19/14 Sat I was disappointed when she won miss USA- I prefered North Datoka. But I admit, I get a good vibe from her in this video and I am beginning to warm up to her. (NT) -- TarHeel, 11:46:50 07/22/14 Tue Nia is adorable! Honestly, she would have made the PERFECT Miss Teen USA. Her voice always sounds so nervous and shaky. It's partly the way she speaks, but I wasn't surprised when she said she was super shy as a kid -- can absolutely tell from these videos she's a shy one! MUO, SHANNA, WHOEVER IS READING THIS... PLEASE WORK WITH HER ON BEING MORE AUTHORITATIVE WHEN SHE SPEAKS FOR MISS UNIVERSE! (NT) -- MAC, 23:17:07 07/22/14 Tue Nia worked as a Disney princess in both CA and Tokyo, she interacted and made conversations with all kinds of people ALL day.. she's not a shy girl by any means.. it's her voice.. we were starting vocal coaching but ran out of time… it's part of who her she is and it just doesn't bother me…Nia knows when to be sweet and cute and she knows when to be a siren… (NT) -- Sxoxo, 00:01:56 07/23/14 Wed I think it's incredibly mean to criticise anyone based on their voice. It's part of who they are and why should they have to change that? Does it make her any more beautiful or engaging? Of course not! (NT) -- oz-usb, 00:09:08 07/23/14 Wed I think she would've made a great Teen USA! I don't mind her voice. I think it's endearing. And when it counted (during her question), she didn't sound any more nervous or shaky than any of the other girls. With all the practice she's had being a princess at Disney, I hope she gets lots of opportunities to meet little girls her year. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 09:04:11 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: AHHH! WHO'S EXCITED FOR THE KICK OFF OF MISS TEXAS USA 2015??
Author: SexyDrew82 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:26:00 07/18/14 Fri I am, I am!!! I know we are fresh off the win of Ashleigh Lollie, Miss Florida USA 2015 (I might add, is stunning and has all the raw goods to do an exceptional job at USA in 2015)...but it excites me to know that Miss Texas USA is also just around the corner.....which for me, kinda kicks off pageant season 2015 in the sense that shortly after Texas concludes, Puerto Rico, Mexico and Venezuela also crown their queens. Nonetheless, I have a "wish list" of Miss Texas USA delegates (although not confirmed) that I can see totally winning the Texas USA title! So here are 16 girls, that I hope to see do well. Some of these ladies are 100% confirmed and some, I won't be sure until the official delegate list comes out: ROW 1: Jordan SCHULTZ, Tahnae TARKENTON, Yliana GUERRA, Victoria SINCLAIR ROW 2: Peyton SAVERANCE, Kenda CARROLL, Ligia DE URIARTE, Brianna WEBB ROW 3: Siria BOJORQUEZ, Alexandra AHMADI, Kathryn DUNN, Caitlyn RASMUSSEN ROW 4: Thamer FAVOR, Andrea FOX, Lauren KENNEWELL, Lauren ADKINS Anyone of these women can win the Texas title and be a good rep for the state. There are obviously always going to be some heavy hitters, but until all delegates are announced, these are the ladies that I can see doing extremely well. The front runner of the title at this point (and well deserved, might I add) is Jordan Schultz. After being named 1st runner up three times, I admire her determination for not giving up. I sincerely hope that she will eventually make it to the USA stage one day. She is a prime example of consistency for having achieved a Top 5 finish (2nd place no doubt) at two competitive states, and for that reason the crown is hers to lose. However, it won’t be a walk in the park as the competition (as far as I know who is confirmed to participate) is extremely strong. Texas is always filled with such gorgeous women and seriously, anyone who catches the eye of the organization and makes a strong impression, should do very well. Tahnae, Yliana, Peyton, and Kathryn have all basked in Top 5 glory and they definitely are ones to look out for. The remaining (with the exception of Bojorquez, Adkins and Kennewell) have made the Top 15, one time or another. I must comment on the setbacks, Kathryn has gone through, going from Top 5 to not placing, two years in a row. I’m confident that if she returns to Texas USA this year and had done her homework, for whatever she thought may have hindered her in the past, then I can most definitely see her redeeming herself completely. Kathryn is one of the most beautiful Texans I have ever seen, and I’m really rooting for her! So I hope that she can break this weirdness of not making the cut, because she truly deserves to be there. Not sure when the official delegates are announced, but as you can already tell, I’m SUPER EXCITED! So who are your favorites??????? Last edited by author: Fri July 18, 2014 19:30:35 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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do we know that these ladies are participating in miss Tx I know Dunn is a miss local for mao. (NT) -- catalina, 19:43:53 07/18/14 Fri Hey Catalina, not all of these women are 100% confirmed...but I do know that some are. As for Dunn, she's in my "wishful thinking" list as I know that she just competed at Miss Texas. But I've added her because I hope to see her do well at Texas again! (NT) -- Sexydrew82 (not signed in), 21:19:47 07/18/14 Fri Dunn aged out of MAO this year. And she can compete as an at large contestant at USA next month if there aren't any more TxUSA locals. The way Texas America works is that the contracts are ended as of midnight following crowning. The girls have no contractual obligation to the franchises after that point. (NT) -- :), 14:38:21 07/20/14 Sun Based JUST off of these headshots alone, Jordan Shultz is my winner. This is an absolutely stunning photo, and she reminds me of someone that would be Miss Alabama, whatever that means. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 20:12:22 07/18/14 Fri Caitlynn annouced at Miss Austin that she's not competing this year. :-( Dunn can still compete if she wants to as MAO releases the girls from their contract at midnight of the night of Texas MAO finals. I really am pulling for Jordan Schultz this year. No doubt she'd made the cut at USA and we need it based off this past year. (NT) -- xoxo-blondie, 21:28:24 07/18/14 Fri YLIANA GUERRA. She was the most stunning girl in the USA system that did not win the title. She would be a big favorite in my book right now... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 23:25:51 07/18/14 Fri When is the pageant? (NT) -- Scootaloo, 23:38:32 07/18/14 Fri I don't think I'll ever get the hype with Jordan Schultz. The only photo where I "see" it is the top 5 photo from TN when Ashley Durham won. But she may prove me wrong and win me over. I'm on Team Tahnae all the way! I forgot just how good she looked last year. Hoping she doesn't join the unfortunate club of girls that should have won, but never did in TX. I'm disappointed Caitlyn isn't returning; she was another top 5 pick for me. Love Yliana, Alejandra,and Alexandra Ahmadi and hope all of them are returning. There were other girls last year who missed the cut that really caught my eye. Maybe we'll get a Kandace Krueger outcome this year. (NT) -- JennNYC, 23:50:12 07/18/14 Fri JennNYC, I have a question about Kandace Krueger. On Wikipedia, it says she never placed at Texas until the night she won. Is that true? Because I have asked other people about that and they say, "No she had placed before" I was hoping you could give me some clarity. (NT) -- Candace Cougar, 17:53:29 07/21/14 Mon She competed four times before her 2001 win and never placed in the semi-finals. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 18:07:57 07/21/14 Mon That is amazing determination! Thank you for the clarification. (NT) -- Candace Cougar, 19:40:03 07/21/14 Mon totally agree with Ice, i cannot stop staring at Yliana, if she is styled impeccably this year, its hers to lose. I do love me some Jordan, and she does deserve the title, i think Yliana is just what Texas needs to be uber competitive next year at USA. She would be an immediate front runner. (NT) -- Texas Freak, 01:03:29 07/19/14 Sat I would respectfully disagree about the front runner, I believe Yliana would be IT, but Siria Bojorquez should put up a fight and Alejandra (4th runner-up from last year) IF she gets her styling right. At this point, I see these 3 Latinas on top. Jordan Schultz is a great competitor as well, but I am not see I see a beauty there. Unfortunately Peyton will not compete this year, as she recently got married. It is a shame because she had at least 1 year left and her styling is the best! Happy for her marriage though. :) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 01:04:00 07/19/14 Sat Peyton hasn't gotten married yet. Can't speak about her competing again, I just know that her wedding is still pretty far off. (NT) -- Xoxo_blondie, 13:32:44 07/20/14 Sun I would love to see everyone of these girls on the MIss USA stage competing together. Which is why I would love to see state pageants go altogether and pick the best of the best in the USA, not in every state. (NT) -- jmo, 08:18:46 07/19/14 Sat Oh no, why must they always have sooo much makeup on?!!? (NT) -- I know it's still early, but apparently FLORIDA & TEXAS are already Out-of-Contention for 2015!, 10:29:08 07/19/14 Sat Don't count Texas out yet, if they crown Jordan, Alexandria Ahmdai or Alekandra Gonzalez then Texas is a top contender, Flroida well with Kathy from RHWoNJ look-alike may be outm but Texas still has a shot! (NT) -- JS, 11:30:36 07/19/14 Sat Is the photogenic winner last year competing? she looked more teen but made a memorable impression on a lot of people (NT) -- Texas, 13:00:30 07/19/14 Sat From these photos Siria and Alexandra are my favs. (NT) -- djm, 13:36:42 07/19/14 Sat Alexandra Ahmadi is a great looking girl, but somehow does not score that well in this pageant, she missed the cut altogether once or twice as well. A LOT of potential, but I have a feeling TX USA is probably a bit too old school for her modelesque approach. Hope to be proven wrong! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 02:47:17 07/20/14 Sun I don't think Alexandra has ever made the semifinals at Texas. And it isn't so much that its too old school, as it is that she has a very international look and it works for the runway - but not for a beauty queen so much. Very interesting features when smiling. (NT) -- ., 22:30:47 07/20/14 Sun She did, top 15 last year. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 01:17:12 07/21/14 Mon As of right now, kathryn isn't competing this year. I'm rooting for Jordan Shultz, but think ylianna will be hard to beat! (NT) -- V, 01:35:57 07/20/14 Sun Hoping Erin Kay returns if she did not age out. And I forget her name, but the girl who was I believe Miss Southwest Texas two years ago is returning. She made the top 16 that year. (NT) -- SanFranGuy (not logged in), 02:50:41 07/20/14 Sun Erin Kay would also be one of my top picks. I also forgot to add Thamer Favor and Kenda Carroll to my wish list of girls that I hope to see return and potentially win. Does anyone know when the photos will be posted? (NT) -- JennNYC, 03:37:17 07/20/14 Sun Did Thamer Favor compete after her semi-finalist result when Ana Rodriguez won? I cannot remember if she did or not, but I am glad she is BACK, I could see a Top 5 finish for her. :) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 03:52:24 07/20/14 Sun She did compete, but did not make the cut. Hard to say why she missed it other than to say styling. (NT) -- SanFranGuy (not logged in), 04:56:02 07/22/14 Tue Miss Southwest Texas 2012 was Barbara Falcon 3rd Runner Up (NT) -- TxPageantFan, 21:28:20 07/20/14 Sun I loved Barbara Falcon! I know she tried for Mexico Universe after competing in TX, but I always hoped she would return to the TX USA stage if that didn't work out. (NT) -- JennNYC, 02:25:57 07/21/14 Mon I was thinking of someone else Jenn. But back to Erin Kay, I thought last year she would have made top 5. She had argualbly the best physique in that group of gorgeous women, and I think swim suit is her bread and butter. Her styling last year was better than the previous year. (NT) -- SanFranGuy (not logged in), 02:31:02 07/21/14 Mon I am thinking of someone else. Maybe it was Southest Texas, but I think was called last that year in the line up or close to it. (NT) -- SanFranGuy (not logged in), 02:28:18 07/21/14 Mon Great group of girls,but my eyes went straight to Alexandra Ahmadi (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 05:00:08 07/20/14 Sun I am not sure that Thamer can compete. Last I knew, she worked for Tootsies in a Houston and they are a sponsor. I would think that would be considered a conflict. (NT) -- ..., 11:33:16 07/20/14 Sun Does anyone know if Caley Rae from Miss CO Teen 2011 is competing? (NT) -- FCTU, 11:03:24 07/21/14 Mon Caley Rae competed at Dallas so it is possible (NT) -- ., 00:58:29 07/22/14 Tue I definitely on board with Tahnae, saw her out recently in Dallas and she looks competition ready already and even more gorgeous, if that is possible (NT) -- Team Tahnae, all the way this year, 11:36:26 07/21/14 Mon If I am not mistaken, this is the last year for Tahnae (or is next year left as well?). I hope she could pull off a win but with Ylania, Siria, Alexandra A., Alejandra G. in the mix, I think it will be very tough. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 21:44:41 07/21/14 Mon I looked at the results from oz's page-she started competing at TX USA in 2008. So if she was 18 then, she would be 24 or 25 now. So she should have two years left. As much as I want her to win, TX has been getting unpredictable and there's a new tide of girls moving in and moving up. So who knows what will happen. I don't think anyone will have it in the bag. We could get a complete newbie that's never even competed before taking the whole thing. (NT) -- JennNYC, 23:45:54 07/22/14 Tue I thought of the girl I couldn't remember, and I am embarrassed because she is a honey - Ashlea Guitierrez. Beautiful girl, and I am sure if she competes, she will make the cut! (NT) -- SanFranGuy (not logged in), 04:50:29 07/22/14 Tue This is a stunning group of ladies! But my eye goes straight to Siria BOJORQUEZ! She looks like a va-va-voom version of Kailyn Perez. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 08:59:37 07/22/14 Tue My eyes go straight to Siria Bojorquze and Alexandra Ahmadi. I'm pulling for a Schultz win though. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 12:50:05 07/22/14 Tue My eyes went straight to Bojorquze in this set of photos- but like all pageants it will come down to what they all look like on stage (NT) -- Mack_P (NSI), 13:47:21 07/22/14 Tue TAHNAE TARKENTON peaked years ago. Plus, she has done absolutely nothing to change her styling over the years. It's like the SAME girl from the past 12 years shows up the next year with a gown that's just as WTF as the previous year. Not to mention the hair remains the same. It's called growing from year to year and she doesn't and it's obvious. I understand girls have they're own sense of style and individuality, but one should step back and come to the conclusion that "their way" is obviously not working and they need to listen to the advice that others have been giving her for years that had gone ignored. If she doesn't change her look and styling, she might as well stay home because she won't be winning. Like I said.....she peaked. -- Brutally Honest, 18:03:10 07/22/14 Tue I think saying tahnae peaked years ago is harsh. her styling could be updated and improved i think we have all agreed on that. but i think credit should be given where it is due. the girl has stayed at the top of the pack for EIGHT years. she has become one of Texas's sweetheart and the pageant would and one day will not be the same without her. she has maintained for almost 10 years in front of us a gorgeous body and gorgeous face. those who have met her love her and she is smart as can be, THAT to me is what a Miss Texas is.. her beauty and STRENGTH to put up with comments like this ^ will put her on top no matter where she ends up in life. (NT) -- TXFanTahnaeFan, 23:53:59 07/22/14 Tue I feel like this same comment has been made several times by this poster. I'm curious to which piece of advice she didn't take from you for you to be so hateful. She has not been a prelim winner so she doesn't really have to take any direction from anyone in particular. I am sure she has used state sponsors in the past and whose to say they gave her the best advice then as she did go unplaced a few years. I think she has definitely had a transformation the last two years and is still finding her style as a young woman and not as the 18yo she started as. I applaud anyone who goes after a dream with that much tenacity. (NT) -- TX, 00:58:16 07/23/14 Wed I have never given her advice, nor am I a sponsor or anything within the Texas USA system. I am only an AVID fan who has plenty of friends within the system. I have watched her compete in person since she was 1st runner up at teen. Say what you will about me, I don't particularly care one way or the other. It's just my opinion and apparently the opinion of several years worth if judges panels on both the state and local level. She is CLEARLY doing something wrong since she can't seem to win a local or crack the top 5 at state since lord knows when. Perhaps she needs a new approach is all I'm saying, her approach isn't working. Also, this is the first time I've EVER commented about Tahnae on this board. Don't believe me ask moderators to check IP address. Clearly I'm not off base in my opinion if other posters have said the same thing. -- Brutally honest, 02:14:17 07/23/14 Wed I absolutely love KDunn and would love nothing more than to see her win a state title. Unfortunately I watched her competing at Miss TX MAO (webstream) and she just wasn't in shape, and wore a gown that highlighted that. If she does decide to compete at TX USA this year I honestly don't think she has enough time to get in shape and I'd be surprised if she makes the cut. Kills me because she's gorgeous & one of the sweetest girls around but you've really got to be the full package to place in TX. (NT) -- Going anon for this., 00:18:23 07/23/14 Wed I hope to see Ashley Gutierrez compete this year..... (NT) -- TxPageantFan, 01:31:04 07/23/14 Wed My three favorite semifinalists last year were Kenda Carroll, Alexandra Gonzalez, and Yliana Guerra. Alexandra didn't garner a lot of attention, in spite of being the 4RU, but I think she has a soft, feminine beauty that is hard to overlook. (NT) -- BamaMan, 06:46:32 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: MOCK MISS TEEN USA 2014 : THE 67 MOCK JUDGES
Author: USBMockSquad [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:53:58 07/20/14 Sun 2014 MOCK MISS TEEN USA JUDGES AnnieA -- Arik -- Athalia Cammie -- cardiofitnessgal -- catalina -- Charming -- Cocoon DairyQueen -- dixiedarling -- djm -- Duration and Convexity eloise -- ETB_CA Freud GoldenBoy -- Groove Harley -- HasBeenQueenie -- hbq -- HiJake ICEMAN -- Ihp Jaime -- JennNYC -- JudgeWanda kyboi Leonard (Optimus Prime) -- lexis_PA -- Lifelong Fan MiddleSister -- Miss Angie -- Miss Nadia -- Miss Understood -- Miss-y -- MissUSAFan -- MoNkayMaN -- MSgal NEQueen -- NovR -- NWPageantFan Onixana -- Oz PGMomma -- PinkOfHearts Qban raffyob -- rebel79 -- Red Lipstick -- RickyD S.xoxo -- Salso -- Samuel -- SanFranGuy -- savh_2014 -- sucker4silvergowns -- Suebee Tonal -- tony_usb -- Txday -- TxpageantFan Val Ewing -- vech -- version 2.O Westtnmommy -- wvbuckeye yrralh 10 Mock siblings of 2013 Mock Top 15 who submitted messages for last year's Round 3 video have registered for 2014. Their votes for Round 1 will be doubled. Mock Top 15 siblings 2013 Charming djm Duration and Convexity Groove Hasbeenqueenie hbq NEQueen NWPageantFan Txday vech Due to the timeline of Miss Teen USA 2014, there will not be any surprise twists like in Mock Miss USA. As in the previous years, Round 1 deadline will be a day or 2 before the delegates arrival in Bahamas. Round 1 ballot link will be emailed to mock judges by Tuesday, July 22, 2014. If you have registered and did not see your handle listed above' you can reply to this thread to let me know or better yet email Onixana @ mockteenusa@gmail.com. Thank you everyone. Onixana Last edited by author: Mon July 21, 2014 20:52:03 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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updated : now with 67 judges (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 20:53:10 07/21/14 Mon SEE I AM ON THIS LIST AND I THINK YOU FORGOT SXOXO (NT) -- CATALINA, 22:17:18 07/21/14 Mon Apparently, there is another list posted similar to this one. Look at the author : not a registered handle. This is the official list of judges. Thank you everyone. - Onixana. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:02:22 07/22/14 Tue Mock Judges : Mock Miss Teen USA 2014 has begun ! Check your emails for Round 1 ballot link. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:14:34 07/23/14 Wed

Subject: Pageant Coaching
Author: Newbie [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:53:40 07/10/14 Thu With so many great coaches... who would you suggest working with? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don't beleive there are "so many great ones" not at all. I do think there are quite a few to chose from. I strongly suggest pageant ready. I love their track record. You want to win? Go to them. And most improtant.. listen to them and their advice. Their track record against other coaches is all there in black & white. (NT) -- jmo, 15:18:43 07/10/14 Thu Do not use pageant ready. If they see a competitor against one of their girls they will try and bring her down. I should know from first hand experience. They are the worst. (NT) -- PageantReadyNope, 20:43:56 07/15/14 Tue You don't need a coach...you've got us. Hehe. ;-) (NT) -- HiJake, 20:56:26 07/15/14 Tue What state are you in? (NT) -- Westtnmommy, 22:25:02 07/15/14 Tue Go with Susie & Shandi !!!! A bit expensive but I think they will come down on fees. (NT) -- Pageant FAN, 08:00:23 07/16/14 Wed New Jersey- Willing to travel where ever. (NT) -- Thank you!, 13:28:13 07/18/14 Fri BeBeautyMarked.. Owned by Tiffany Andrade (2nd RU at Miss USA) and Michelle Leonardo (Top 10 at Miss USA) www.bebeautymarked.com (NT) -- BeBeautyMarked, 17:59:18 07/20/14 Sun BBM is located in NJ/NY and Boston (NT) -- BBM, 18:02:28 07/20/14 Sun Shandi won because she had extensive cosmetic surgery and Susie won only because it was held in San Antonio and the pageant was Latin-themed for the most part and she was a Latina. They don't have any particular "skills" they can teach. They won Miss USA because of those reasons I mentioned and they're not teachable. (NT) -- Just the truth, sorry, 22:26:17 07/18/14 Fri Um no, nice try though. Shandi won, because she was on all night. had an outstanding interview (when it actually mattered), and had personality. Susie however, I do agree with your assessment on that. (NT) -- IHP, 22:36:47 07/18/14 Fri Agree. Shandi was (and still is) untouchable, in my opinion. She was the standout before she even got there. (NT) -- Y'all are haters!, 11:27:04 07/20/14 Sun Sorry, you're wrong. She may have been "on" like you say but it was all those surgeries she had that made her win. She didn't make the cut at Miss America and didn't win previous pageants until her massive transformation. You're wrong, nice try though! (NT) -- You're wrong, nice try!, 17:32:42 07/20/14 Sun I had forgotten she didn't place at Miss America. You'd think she would've at least made the semi-finals, given her speaking ability. And she played the piano, which usually does well there. Whatever. Shandi's so 10 years ago. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 17:38:03 07/20/14 Sun I READ THAT dONNA aXUM ( SP) DID NOT WANT sHANDI TO PLACE. SHE WAS HEAD JUDGE AND APPARENTLY SHE GAVE sHANDI VERY LOW SCORES INSURING SHE WOULD NOT PLACE. (NT) -- catalina, 18:50:42 07/20/14 Sun Yeah I remember that. Someone overheard Donna say that she didn't want no blonde barbie doll winning miss america. Most of the girls who made the top 20 and even the winner who had the most horrid talent I ever heard on stage won. A lot of the beautys including shandi were cut out of the equation, and I think another blonde bombshell from Mississippi was left out of that top 20. A lot of people had shandi pegged to win, and she even won EG. She was low balled. (NT) -- IHP, 12:22:09 07/21/14 Mon This is true. The directors of Kentucky overheard Donna Axum saying this. But I'm glad Shandi didn't win! Cause she then became Miss USA! (NT) -- And whoever said she had 'work' done between the two pageants is an idiot. They were within a few months of each other., 14:19:23 07/21/14 Mon There were 2 years between MAO and MUSA. (NT) -- ., 14:50:27 07/21/14 Mon Well, she was Miss Missouri for awhile after competing at Miss America and had the rest of the year to represent her state. Then only had a couple months before she competed at Miss Missouri USA. So technically, she only had about 3 months of 'down time.' (NT) -- Get your facts before you start gossiping., 15:23:37 07/21/14 Mon THAT MADE ME DISLIKE DONNA . EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A FAIR SHOT (NT) -- CATALINA, 22:28:36 07/21/14 Mon I, too, recall reading on the message boards that Shandi's year at Miss America was not going to be for the blonde barbie doll type but rather for the dark brunette. As it turns out, that's the way it played out. Erika Harold, Scarlotte, the tremendous Casey Preslar, etc. etc. Miss Kentucky that year was Barbie Blonde Mary Catherine Correll who was omitted along with Shandi. Mary Catherine's mother is June Wallace, who made top 12 at Miss USA 1975 and received NFT at Miss America representing Wyoming in Dorothy's year. Sidebar: Miss Wallace reports that Miss Ohio 1976 was very ticked when she didn't win her talent preliminary on the piano losing out to Misses NY & TX. Backstage, in a fit of rage/anger she took her forearm and flung all of her makeup, combs, brushes, accessories, etc. off her makeup table & onto the floor. (NT) -- Balty, 14:04:52 07/22/14 Tue I find all oif this fascinating, but is there any support to these allegations? I am sure the Shandi rumors are somewhat true, but even though she played piano, it does not necessarily mean she had tons of talent there, and I am not saying she didn't. Every year there are a lot of beautiful girls left out of the semis. It makes me wonder what MAO looks for. But before throwing Donna under a bus and running over her, which she may deserve, I would love to know if these statements have any validity. (NT) -- SanFranGuy (not logged in), 19:16:21 07/22/14 Tue If you need any interview help, check out my website www.pageant-smart.com ! Happy to help. (NT) -- Qban, 17:26:05 07/18/14 Fri I know girls who have worked with Qban and I have heard nothing but great things about him and his team of pageant professionals. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 07:18:14 07/19/14 Sat I am in Central New York and looking for stage/posing coaching. Advice on who to work with? (NT) -- --, 17:33:34 07/18/14 Fri Shandi & Susie are doing a seminar in Florida in August. I saw it on the Florida webcast (NT) -- www.Pageantology.com and I am sure you will find it. that's who i would spend my money on, 17:50:17 07/18/14 Fri Looks like Susie and Shandi found the board again to promote themselves. (NT) -- jmo, 08:12:11 07/19/14 Sat Interesting article in the New York Times this weekend about Bill Alberson, pageant coach of the last two Miss Americas and Miss USA 2012, Nana. (NT) -- Freud, 23:54:20 07/20/14 Sun Alverson (NT) -- Freud, 23:57:08 07/20/14 Sun Freud, great article! Super interesting NYT interest piece. Thank you for sharing. (NT) -- Snowflake, 07:22:18 07/21/14 Mon I wouldnt let Bill Alverson anywhere near my daughter. Ive seen his behavior at pageants. (NT) -- No Thanks, 12:16:11 07/21/14 Mon OSMEL! (NT) -- Alyssa's Pinoy Fan, 08:00:44 07/21/14 Mon There aren't 'so many great coaches.' Most of them are terrible! And I think it's funny when a guy is a coach. What does he know about competing in beauty pageants? (NT) -- Bad teachers, 14:22:28 07/21/14 Mon hmmmm.... Unless you are a guy coach and your girls win! Stupid comment... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:19:19 07/21/14 Mon Probably the same knowledge as Geno Auriemma, the head women's basketball coach at UCONN, who just won his NINTH NCAA basketball title. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 15:52:38 07/21/14 Mon Or try telling that to a woman in the 60's or 70's who wanted to break into the man's business world... Business is just for men, right? I think this poster was just trying to stir the pot. Surely no one has true beliefs that are this antiquated and outdated?? (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:55:31 07/21/14 Mon I am not so sure Iceman. I have interviewed some girls for MAO and was astonished by some of their views..... (NT) -- ureka smoke, 16:10:43 07/21/14 Mon i like when formers become coaches. After all, they were there and should know how to win. Like, Anastagia's business, Pageant Success is really taking off. I love her ambition. (NT) -- bahamas, 23:57:13 07/21/14 Mon I love PR Coaches! they sponsor my state and all my titleholders love them and feel really good after their sessions! Infact Qban even worked with Nia on the question she ended getting on stage which was awesome…. I also love Georgina Vaughne, she has faun Dream TEam for NV girls but does all kinds of fun stuff at the winning wand for different states! (NT) -- Sxoxo, 00:16:24 07/22/14 Tue I saw QBan worked with her. I have always said go with the coaches that produce the winners and PR does that. I can not imagine only having 1 shot at Miss USA and using it on a coach that does not have that track record. (NT) -- jmo, 11:08:43 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: Sarah Hollins should be back in Nebraska
Author: allthatjazz [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:50:26 07/22/14 Tue saw her at a NAM pageant this weekend and she said she was coming back. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That would be good news! Most of my favorites in NE have either already won or stopped competing/aged out. I like Jane Rabe, and have rooted for her for years. If she's still eligible she'd be one of my front runners as well. I would also love to see Sarah Summers return. She was one of my front runners for Miss Teen USA back in 2012. (NT) -- JennNYC, 18:53:12 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: Miss USA 2014 says she has never voted in Nevada or anywhere else???
Author: Concerned Republican [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:01:34 07/18/14 Fri What kind of citizen who both represents Nevada and the USA does NOT vote? It's time to revisit contest rules and insure we have Americans who support both their state and country compete in contests that go by such name designations! Donald Trump, this is not only embarrassing, but it is shameful, I am sad to say. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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My initial thought is, she's Miss USA, not an elected official. Get over it. Secondly, some people don't vote for a variety of reasons. Who are you to judge? (NT) -- Suebee, 15:10:35 07/18/14 Fri There are many people who do not vote. She is a beauty queen, not a political representative. I personally think that if you don't not favor either candidate, why would you vote in their favor? If I didnt stand for one of them I surely wouldn't cast my vote for one of them. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 17:02:05 07/18/14 Fri I wonder what the Rock The Vote organization thinks about this as a partner org of MUO. (NT) -- Anon, 17:54:47 07/18/14 Fri In which election should she have voted? In 2012, she spent 7 months working at Hong Kong Disney. Most people don't vote in local elections. Where would she have had the opportunity? Many young people, especially those who are apolitical, don't vote in elections. (NT) -- delilah, 18:13:54 07/18/14 Fri It's a sad commentary that MANY (most?) people don't vote. You can always register as a permanent absentee voter (as I do) and you will get your ballots in the mail WAY before the election & mail them in from anywhere. While it's typical I'm sure, I think Miss USA (and EVERYONE) OUGHT to be a voter. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:46:34 07/18/14 Fri I have always voted. However, I can understand if an individual chooses not to vote out of carefully thought out principle. There are certain branches of the Mennonite church for example that do not believe in getting involved in the operation of government and some members view voting as compromising that principle. While I do not agree, I can respect a clearly articulated rationale behind a decision not to participate in the voting process. Apathy on the other hand is a little harder to swallow. (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 19:01:13 07/18/14 Fri Tiki, I'm only pointing out the reality. Many young people don't vote, especially not during non-presidential-year elections. And how many of them would even consider obtaining an absentee ballot? I worked outside the country for major parts of 3 years when I was younger. It never even occurred to me to vote via absentee ballot. (NT) -- delilah, 22:12:22 07/18/14 Fri I completely agree! People should vote and I am a little appalled that Miss USA doesn't and, apparently, openly admits it. (NT) -- [><], 00:08:05 07/19/14 Sat My DD was 18 when she spent 2008 and part of 2009 in HK, yet she still managed to vote via absentee ballot. All you gotta do is care enough to make the effort. That being said, since MUSA isn't a political post I don't think its some big scandal that she doesn't vote -- tho it is a bit disappointing. (NT) -- SouthernMissMom, 19:05:09 07/18/14 Fri Nia's 289th hair was pointing due north this Am and I personally am appalled and horrified her hair was out of place in this manner… seriously…I know Audra would have every hair in place… shame Nia. Shame on you. this sht is getting old. for real. (NT) -- Sxoxo, 19:11:54 07/18/14 Fri* I totally agree and find myself getting on the board less and less. So negative, catty and bitter... (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 19:23:18 07/18/14 Fri Couldn't agree more. People finding every petty reason to knock her, it's just so lame. I could care less if she voted, who she voted for, etc. that is Nias business that has nothing to do with the title whatsoever. I personally love Nia as Miss USA. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 20:07:46 07/18/14 Fri I hope Nia wins Miss Universe just to piss off her haters. Not that she doesn't deserve it but a little "eat crow" would be nice. So sick of Nia being brought up for the ridiculous reasons. (NT) -- Ugh, 20:13:25 07/18/14 Fri Just wait until a photo is posted of her without a smile. She'll get savaged, like Nana was for almost a year. I love the Miss USA pageant, but I always feel sorry for the winner because of this "fan" board. (NT) -- ..,., 22:18:26 07/18/14 Fri Let me start out by saying that I love Nia (and you Shanna!).... however It's inarguably worthy of discussion when a representative of our country (in whatever capacity) openly admits to having never voted before. The instance where someone equated voting to teeth flossing is evidence enough we could use some more informed opinions circulating on the topic. I don't think there's any need to get defensive seeing Nia's mindset is probably representative of the mindset of a lot of our country (and this message board obviously), but merely dismissing anyone discussing it is a "hater" or "nitpicking" is failing to see the bigger picture. (NT) -- LA Liz, 22:40:56 07/18/14 Fri I was the person who made the connection to flossing, and the point I was trying to make is that it is ultimately NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. We may wish she voted in every election (I certainly do) and I also wish she were an atheist lesbian with a degree in French literature, because all those things are very important to me too. But I can't necessarily expect them to be reflected in someone who won her title based on swimsuit, evening gown, and a 30-second question. -- Doot, 09:50:23 07/19/14 Sat SHE HAS LIVED OUT OF THE USA A LOT. GETTING A absentee balot perminatly is difficult i would think and as for all the paperwork they sent the post office does not deliver to a foreign country ( but I might be wrong) (NT) -- catalina, 19:47:56 07/18/14 Fri Catalina, its actually not at all difficult to get absentee ballots sent to you. It takes just a few mites to fill out the request form. Yes, the US will send yours to you in a foreign country in plenty of time (with many weeks to spare) for a voter to fill out the ballot and mail it back in time for the vote to count. I'm not slamming Nia for not taking the time to do this, but I do want anyone reading this thread to know its super easy to do if you do want to have a vote. (NT) -- SouthernMissMom, 11:54:48 07/19/14 Sat typo: minutes, not mites haha (NT) -- SouthernMissMom, 11:58:05 07/19/14 Sat my friend lived in Paris for a year and did not get all the supplements that inform people about the propositions. (NT) -- Catalina, 22:53:47 07/19/14 Sat Nia has NOT lived outside of the country "a lot" as you say. Seven months in Hong Kong is not a lot. (NT) -- Flowergirl, 17:29:00 07/20/14 Sun Last time I checked this is a beauty pageant not an election?! Correct me if I am wrong -- Confused, 19:50:47 07/18/14 Fri add to the fact over the past three days she's made awesome appearances, met pubic officials, hit up awesome charities, handles herself with class, with a ton of fun pics to check out and we are talking about her voting… shoots self in face (NT) -- Sxoxo, 20:22:47 07/18/14 Fri* I can't believe that some of you are defending her for NOT voting! It might be a beauty pageant, but freedom is also beautiful and she should want to be an active participant in it. My immediate reaction is, she might have met the officials, but does she even know who they are?! Clearly, she's not participating in choosing them, and the excuse that a lot of people don't vote just isn't good enough. They should vote also. (NT) -- [><], 00:13:15 07/19/14 Sat Unfortunately, part of "freedom" is the freedom to do things we're not crazy about, like not voting. -- Doot, 09:53:33 07/19/14 Sat I'm not sure that was what the founding fathers had in mind! (NT) -- [><], 22:55:57 07/19/14 Sat I have to join to chorus of people saying WTF. I think voting is important, but are we also going to require that Miss USA flosses her teeth twice a day and check to make sure she recycles aluminum cans? -- Doot, 21:02:23 07/18/14 Fri Ohhh...Bad girl, bad girl!!! Nia's punishment for tonight for not voting and not combing her 289th hair properly: write on a chalkboard 1,000 times the phrase "Mr. Trump's hair is beautiful, healthy, trendy and coveted all over the universe!!!" (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 22:13:23 07/18/14 Fri Personally, I think it's her right to choose not to vote however, had she said this on stage at Miss USA, I think she would've lost for sure and the judges wouldn't have liked that. (NT) -- W, 22:20:03 07/18/14 Fri Catty (NT) -- SparkyP, 23:16:34 07/18/14 Fri I hate to say it...but Nia is giving me the "beautiful fool" vibe. Doesn't know the capital of her own state & volunteers the fact that she doesn't vote. Yikes. I know this isn't Miss America, but...damn. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 00:33:53 07/19/14 Sat I just think it's bad for ANY US citizen with the ability to not exercise that right. (NT) -- DAPHNE, 09:37:31 07/19/14 Sat Really? I really dislike catty people in general and have little or no tolerance for it. (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 15:49:44 07/19/14 Sat I hear ya, Catherine. But you gotta admit, being Miss USA and then voluntarily admitting that you don't vote even though you've of age for several years IS a faux pas, no matte how you slice it. She's still Miss USA and that's something many will never be....but damn girl, use your HEAD! Either don't vote and be discreet and don't volunteer such stupid information OR vote! Either way, use her head, Nia! (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 22:42:47 07/19/14 Sat Personally, I rather admire her honesty. (NT) -- nice change, 23:39:23 07/20/14 Sun Frankly, I don't agree with you and have noticed your regular negative posts about Nia. Go have a cocktail, get a facial and/or buy a pretty dress! (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 00:03:27 07/22/14 Tue You need to think of this in context. It's doubtful she blurted out "I don't vote!" No, it's more likely someone asked her which state is she registered to vote and she replied she's not registered. You may not agree, but she's honest. Maybe you can dial down the judgement of others a bit. (NT) -- ..,., 09:21:31 07/22/14 Tue Not knowing the capital of her own state is just plain stupid and how did she even graduate high school? This is even more unbelievable than not voting. Little wonder MUO is a joke by crowning dumb girls who also cheat their way by state-hopping and then lying about it (NT) -- Beautiful but not much up there, 16:44:19 07/19/14 Sat I'm only a year younger than Nia and I've never voted in the elections, either. Why? Because I prefer direct democracy (everyone voting on an issue in a referendum), as opposed to voting for someone who is supposed to make decisions in my interest for me, yet is only really looking after their own interest. Also, nobody is obliged to vote. Yes, they have a right to vote, but need not exercise it if they don't want to. So, before you attack Nia, asky her why she has never voted. She might have a really good reason. (NT) -- My two cents, 10:32:16 07/19/14 Sat And people who don't vote do not have the right to complain about what the government does. (NT) -- If you don't vote your opinion on government issues is moot and worthless., 12:13:58 07/19/14 Sat Nobody's opinion is moot and worthless. Also, people always have a right to complain, especially if they feel that the government is not working for their interest, regardless of whether they voted or not and for whom. (NT) -- Everybody's rights are equal, 16:42:36 07/19/14 Sat Why be a citizen of this country if you don't vote? It's one of the very few rights we actually have with very little restriction. Kids these days..... (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 18:45:30 07/19/14 Sat Your reason for not voting is extremely childish. If you're ever asked this at a pageant or anywhere where you'd like to give a mature answer, I'd urge you to learn to frame your apathy much better (NT) -- Former, 10:18:59 07/20/14 Sun Some people just don't vote or care to. #next (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 14:15:47 07/19/14 Sat Who gives a flying fuck? Is it a requirement to be Miss USA to have voted? If you don't like it, blame MUO and Donald Trump - I am sick of all of these people constantly harassing Nia... I have NEVER seen it this bad, with ANY delegate... My GOD, poor Nia and Shanna! (NT) -- This is TERRIBLE behavior!!!! I can't believe this., 14:22:31 07/19/14 Sat This is the most extreme reaction I've seen on either side.. (NT) -- just saying, 15:35:35 07/19/14 Sat Seriously? You've never seen it this bad for any delegate? Are you new? Nana was ripped apart endlessly because she didn't smile enough for the "fans" here. Alyssa was harassed over and over and over about her weight. (NT) -- ..,., 21:40:44 07/20/14 Sun Where did this information even come from? I can't find a source other than this post. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 14:23:26 07/19/14 Sat Everyone, Nia out preformed Audra by a mile. That's why she won. Audra was a nervous wreck and Nia shone. I'm sorry guys. (NT) -- Get over it., 15:38:46 07/19/14 Sat SERIOUSLY! Did you have nothing else to do today other than stir up the issue of a young beauty pageant queen's non opportunity to get to be involved & vote in political elections when there are far more important issues in the world like hundreds dying in a plane being shot down and wars being fought this very minute! For real? Seriously? This is what you chose to stir up a controversy about. How pitiful you are. (NT) -- OKCrown -- not ashamed to identify myself, 15:55:48 07/19/14 Sat Wow Shanna you're so classy and articulate and full of grace. No wonder why everybody bows before Miss USA 1995. Pure class. PLEASE! (NT) -- JD, 18:43:55 07/19/14 Sat Didn't you have to vote for or against Prop 8 in a voting booth? If someone is such a big advocate of something so important, wouldn't you vote for it. (NT) -- rmt just curious, 22:15:29 07/21/14 Mon Ya know looking into her voting history is a bit single white femaleish. Time to move on guys. I can't help but wonder how many biter posters here are formers that competed this past year. Who else could possibly be so fired up over this girl winning? The general public? nope. State directors? Nope. Its getting creepy. (NT) -- jmo, 23:13:42 07/19/14 Sat "Concerned Republican" - sorry, but you have WAY bigger things to be concerned about than this, but like a true Republican you are choosing to get your panties in a wad over yet another distraction. (NT) -- djm, 08:49:38 07/20/14 Sun Interesting fact: former business partners Keith and Shanna both have National titleholders at the same time (NT) -- taylor, 17:19:24 07/20/14 Sun What National titleholder does Keith have? He hasn't been in charge of California for a couple of years now. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:04:13 07/20/14 Sun wasn't he in charge when Cassidy won Teen USA?He was her state Director (NT) -- taylor, 19:13:23 07/20/14 Sun I'm pretty sure he was gone by the time Teen USA actually rolled around. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 16:37:38 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: I Know this is a Miss USA Board...but
Author: Questions [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:05:00 07/21/14 Mon With MAO having over a million dollar lawsuit and the rumor of sending 2 MAOT from 1 state (Nevada) do you think we will see the end of the organization. If the rumor is true, EVERY state may get requests to send 2 teens this year...which may end badly. I'm curious to know what everyone thinks because if MAO goes down the drain for this, MUO will receive a massive amount of applicants in the coming years. Also, which other pageant organization may increase in popularity if MAO fails to handle these situations in an "ideal" way? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don't think MAO is going anywhere any time soon. This isn't the best for them PR wise at the moment, but there are still tons of girls who dream of being Miss America who will continue to apply. MUO has had more than its fair share of bad press over the years, but girls still sign up because they have that dream of becoming Miss USA and Miss Universe. It would take a lot more than a handful of scoring errors to get rid of Miss America. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 10:39:09 07/21/14 Mon This should help Amanda's case to represent Delaware at Miss America. Let there be two Miss Delaware's at Miss America this year. (NT) -- Anno, 11:41:57 07/21/14 Mon well... they did have 2 Miss North Carolina's show up one year. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 16:04:07 07/21/14 Mon WHEN WEre there 2 miss carolinas? What is the deal with the 2 MAOT (NT) -- catalina, 22:21:42 07/21/14 Mon The year Rebekah Revels was "dethroned"..the decision wasn't out yet or she was challenging it...can't remember. Anyway, both she & her 1st runner-up went to Atlantic City as "Miss North Carolina" as the legal decision was literally being decided with in days. I think before prelims Rebekkah was out..but they did BOTH participate in some rehersals. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 23:03:47 07/21/14 Mon She was challenging it in court, so the judge said the org had to allow both reps at the pageant until a decision was made. She was there at the start, and I remember seeing her giving interviews and for rehearsals, but you are right, she was gone before prelims began. This whole thing involving the NVMAOT makes no sense with the second rep competing. She didn't even make the top 5 so how do they even know she would have won? (NT) -- JennNYC, 23:14:55 07/21/14 Mon The issue in Nevada is the teen in question won talent and based on scoring percentages, there is no way she should NOT have made top 5. That is when people starting questioning the results. Revels later dropped her suit after she was appointed U.S rep to Miss World. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 06:57:12 07/22/14 Tue I REMEMBER NOW (NT) -- CATALINA, 23:55:04 07/21/14 Mon At first glance, that'd be a viable argument, but the two situations are differentiated in the sense that the two teens probably (I don't know right now) were and are still 100% eligible to compete, whereas the only one of the Delware misses who is eligible is the 1st RU. The originally miss DE winner was never eligible from the start. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 16:20:36 07/21/14 Mon If anything, MAO will really clamp down on policies and procedures and rules and regulations in the approaching year. I think MAO will revoke any franchise license of any local/state program that does not follow proper procedures. In addition, I think the auditors will now have to go through strict standards training and perhaps be “MAO certified” before ever serving as an auditor. (NT) -- MLB, 13:22:30 07/21/14 Mon This won't be the end of MAO or MAOT. Things happen, but things like this aren't that common enough to hurt the org. I don't think Amanda's lawsuit will go anywhere, unless she has proof of what she was told. If in some way she had the title re-instated or the MAO was forced to allow her to represent DE, I don't see it going well for her there. (NT) -- JennNYC, 14:59:38 07/21/14 Mon What exactly happened? I'm having trouble finding any information on what went on. Seems like stories have been removed. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 15:55:26 07/21/14 Mon In a very interesting turn of events, the website is down, any talk of it on Guru is immedietly deleted, all tweets by Miss Nevada have been deleted. Basically Tiki (more inside) -- jmo, 16:30:31 07/21/14 Mon Very interesting. Thank you for that. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 16:44:03 07/21/14 Mon I have to say I am kinda leaning towards someone made this all up today and none of it is true. The website down is a possible coincidence. But to not have any info anywhere makes me think someone just wanted to stir things up. I love me some good pageant drama but Im not sold there really is any here. (NT) -- jmo, 16:55:45 07/21/14 Mon The reigning Miss Nevada (the sister of the girl originally crowned teen) tweeted about it more than once. Someone on the MAO board said those tweets were deleted, but I didn't check. But I did see them with my own eyes. Unless she's trying to stir up trouble (which I doubt), it's true. Plus, friends of the girl who has just been crowned also tweeted about it and posted about it on Instagram. I think we haven't heard anything because they're trying to sort it out and come up with a way to spin it. Some things are unspinnable (NT) -- Former, 06:12:23 07/22/14 Tue The rumor is that the pageant was fixed by the ED to have both sisters win the Miss NV and NVOT titles. The judges top five and the ED's top five (which was announced at the pageant and the winner was chosen from) were different. (NT) -- MissMay, 18:08:44 07/21/14 Mon The pageant was NOT fixed - it was a simple tabulating error - This is the first year for the director and mistakes were made. Once they realized there may be an error, they went back to correct it. The reason for 2 reps is simply because the family of the original teen winner threatened to sue. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 07:09:47 07/22/14 Tue Well, I was hoping someone just made this all up and looks more and more like this is true. As for your comment that is was not fixed, im not buying that for a second. Turns out this pageant has been getting looked into for weeks now. They also dont fire an entire board for a tabulation error. (NT) -- jmo, 11:12:54 07/22/14 Tue http://www.voy.com/223730/ (NT) -- This board isn't deleting anything, but it doesn't have nearly as much traffic as Guru. Guru deletes a lot. When the Miss FL story broke, it was deleted on Guru as well, 18:12:18 07/21/14 Mon It's easy to forget every system has it's "annus horribilis". In 06-07 MUO had to deal with Tara going into rehab, Miss NV USA getting dethroned and Miss NJ USA resigning because she was pregnant - all within a couple of weeks. Then a few months later Miss DC Teen USA resigned as well. The following year Cristina Silva was crowned Miss CA USA then had it pulled because the results were added wrong. I don't recall either having any discernible impact on numbers, they were already declining at that point. (NT) -- oz-usb, 07:49:23 07/22/14 Tue If the Sheena scandal didn't hurt the MUO numbers, nothing will. I remember when that broke, people said that numbers would decline dramatically all across the board. IIRC, some states actually saw a jump. Same when Miss Teen USA went off the air and moved to the Bahamas-people said that the pageant was going to be discontinued and the numbers at the state level would decrease in the meantime. Hasn't happened. This lawsuit really is the state and girls error, and the whole thing with NV I'd need to see more on, but it's something completely minor in reality. (NT) -- JennNYC, 14:58:07 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: Gorgeous!!!
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:59:48 07/22/14 Tue Last edited by author: Tue July 22, 2014 13:06:38 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Cuuuute! If there's ever a sequel to "Enchanted" then Nia should be cast! Precious here but then she can turn around and be sexy too (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 13:10:01 07/22/14 Tue She reminds me of Olivia in that she leaves nothing to chance in every photo- hair, makeup, wardrobe, body, everything is always on point. And her body is better than Olivia's so I foresee a very good placement for her at Universe (NT) -- Mack_P (NSI), 13:43:22 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: MISS TEEN USA 2014
Author: SexyDrew82 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:29:44 07/21/14 Mon In a little less than 2 weeks a new MISS TEEN USA will crowned for 2014.....I'm very excited! I'm sad to see the gorgeous, Cassidy Wolf go, but I'm very excited for who she will crown as her successor. The 2014 Teen class is gorgeous and I would be extremely happy with any of them winning the crown. Nonetheless, here's a little collage I created of all the Teens' current headshots on the MUO website! Enjoy! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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WA, Arkansas, OK, PA, Alabama, Florida - (NT) -- Are My Top 6 - Gorgeous Girls!!, 18:12:33 07/21/14 Mon California (2-peat), Pennsylvania, Mississippi, DC, AZ. With Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado dark horses. (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 18:21:08 07/21/14 Mon Lovin PA, MS, VA, WVA, MN (NT) -- My Faves, 19:43:13 07/21/14 Mon Fabulous collage Drew, loving my CA girl Bianca - I could definitely see a back to back win for my state, she's has been a contender since she was crowned, go Bianca! (NT) -- JayBay, 20:44:49 07/21/14 Mon Teen usa -- Lia, 21:05:25 07/21/14 Mon AL and WA are my favorites to win it all! (NT) -- PA, CA and MS are my runner-ups, 21:31:44 07/21/14 Mon In this collage my eyes went straight to DC. I also have never-ending love for PA, MD, and MS. I also really like Washington and Minnesota. So many great teens. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 10:03:03 07/22/14 Tue I love PA, CA, WV, DC and MA (NT) -- ., 11:45:01 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: More from the homecoming
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:12:12 07/21/14 Mon More on my facebook page! https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10154378497060384.1073742151.435124740383&type=1 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm appreciating that we have a Miss USA who can look great when glamed up and look great when more casual/natural! She looks great either way...:) (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 01:11:06 07/21/14 Mon I know this is super weird to say but holy smokes, she has great teeth!! :) (NT) -- AH, 12:20:30 07/21/14 Mon I love that picture of her on the left! Such a cute candid moment (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 13:50:02 07/21/14 Mon oh my gosh i need those heels in my life!!! nia looks great (NT) -- BreeZe, 14:01:38 07/21/14 Mon How can you look at the photo on the left and not think she's a threat to win Miss Universe? She's stunning! So glad she was patient all those years and tried again to get to Miss USA. (NT) -- ..,., 09:46:55 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: Miss Universe Poland 2014
Author: me3 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:18:17 07/19/14 Sat Apparently Miss Poland has been postponed until early December. That winner will go to Miss Universe 2015. a such the organization appointed a contestant for Miss Universe 2014. She is the 2nd runner up from 2011, Marcela Chmielowska. Beautiful woman. Now, does anyone know where Miss Universe 2014 will be? The latest rumor is that Paula Shugart and Gabriella were photographed together in Baku, Azerbaijan ,just this week. Could it be true? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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(NT) -- me3, 17:31:26 07/19/14 Sat Is she the one on the right? What a great royal court but I would loved to see the one on the left or the winner going to Miss Universe. Does the actual winner go to Miss World? (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 04:57:27 07/20/14 Sun The winner Rozalia Mancewicz went to MU in 2011. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 05:02:03 07/20/14 Sun you're wrong, the Winner : Marcelina Zawadska top 16 in Miss Universe 2012 (NT) -- fix, 06:53:39 07/21/14 Mon NO, check the sash, the year is 2011! Marcelina Zawadzka won Miss Poland in 2012, Rozalia won in 2011. They look very similar though! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 01:12:07 07/22/14 Tue lol, its so obvious she is Marcelina, go check the Miss Poland contestant batch that year, the link :http://www.pudelek.pl/artykul/36879/kandydatki_na_miss_polonia_2011_wybieramy/ (NT) -- fix, get the fact stright, 07:56:32 07/22/14 Tue Where did you get the information about Baku? I think it would be a fab host! They also have a new arena! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 18:24:34 07/19/14 Sat There is a photo of those 2 ....could not post it for some reason....was on a facebook page and apparently may well be true. (NT) -- me3, 18:26:59 07/19/14 Sat I like the idea of Baku, AZERBAIJAN as yjis year's location for they hosted a highly successful EUROVISION Song Contest two years ago! MUO will get the government's full support & backing plus the fact that the country is actually gay-friendly despite the country being a Muslim nation. (NT) -- Euro fan, 19:58:38 07/19/14 Sat They were on a 5 country trip, but I wouldn't be surprised if Azerbaijan is chosen because Emin Agalarov's family is originally from there and he performs there regularly. The Agalarovs are builders, similar to Donald Trump, and very wealthy. Emin's ex-wife is the daughter of the president of Azerbaijan and the families maintain friendly relations (allegedly). The country is oil rich and promotes its resort-like environs. As you'll all remember, Olivia was featured in one of Emin's videos and I believe she's the Face of Crocus City Mall in Moscow, also owned by the Agalarov family. (NT) -- delilah, 00:08:44 07/20/14 Sun No to Miss Poland. Yes to the possibility of Baku. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:34:26 07/20/14 Sun (NT) -- me3, 09:09:20 07/20/14 Sun With the new Miss Azerbaijan. (NT) -- me3, 09:13:28 07/20/14 Sun Morep hotos and an article about Gabriela's visit to Baku---including photos of her in front of their new ultramedern convention center. Could it be true? http://axsam.az/site/?name=xeber&news_id=16991 (NT) -- me3, 11:19:14 07/20/14 Sun (NT) -- me3, 11:20:44 07/20/14 Sun Paula's looking unkempt. Even her watch doesn't fit. (NT) -- ..,., 09:38:27 07/22/14 Tue

Subject: UPDATED: MOCK MISS TEEN USA 2014 : THE MOCK JUDGES
Author: USBModSquad [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:13:57 07/21/14 Mon 2014 MOCK MISS TEEN USA JUDGES AnnieA -- Arik -- Athalia Cammie -- cardiofitnessgal -- Charming -- Cocoon DairyQueen -- dixiedarling -- djm -- Duration and Convexity eloise -- ETB_CA Freud GoldenBoy -- Groove Harley -- HasBeenQueenie -- hbq -- HiJake ICEMAN -- Ihp Jaime -- JennNYC -- JudgeWanda kyboi Leonard (Optimus Prime) -- lexis_PA -- Lifelong Fan MiddleSister -- Miss Angie -- Miss Nadia -- Miss-y -- MissUSAFan -- MSgal NEQueen -- NovR -- NWPageantFan Onixana -- Oz PGMomma -- PinkOfHearts Qban raffyob -- rebel79 -- Red Lipstick -- RickyD Salso -- Samuel -- savh_2014 -- sucker4silvergowns -- Suebee Tonal -- tony_usb -- Txday -- TxpageantFan Val Ewing -- vech -- version 2.O Westtnmommy -- wvbuckeye yrralh Zyzzlezaphryxazuchatoxias 7878910 10 Mock siblings of 2013 Mock Top 15 who submitted messages for last year's Round 3 video have registered for 2014. Their votes for Round 1 will be doubled. Mock Top 15 siblings 2013 Charming djm Duration and Convexity Groove Hasbeenqueenie hbq NEQueen NWPageantFan Txday vech Due to the timeline of Miss Teen USA 2014, there will not be any surprise twists like in Mock Miss USA. As in the previous years, Round 1 deadline will be a day or 2 before the delegates arrival in Bahamas. Round 1 ballot link will be emailed to mock judges by Tuesday, July 22, 2014. If you have registered and did not see your handle listed above' you can reply to this thread to let me know or better yet email Onixana @ mockteenusa@gmail.com. Thank you everyone. Onixana [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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SanFran, where are you?!? I thought you registered? :/ (NT) -- Groove (NSI), 21:43:01 07/21/14 Mon hey you forgot me (NT) -- catalina, 22:14:32 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: FL USA
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:14:51 07/15/14 Tue Last edited by author: Tue July 15, 2014 10:17:08 Edited 2 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Beautiful... But I still just want her to push her hair back. It is overwhelming, and she is too pretty for that. Brush it back!! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:36:10 07/15/14 Tue She should layer it a bit in front so that it doesn't look like a curtain. I would also suggest highlights and lowlights. (NT) -- delilah, 18:01:41 07/15/14 Tue I'm sorry but she remninds me sooooooo much of Kathy from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. The first runner up was 10 times prettier, taller and had a lot more presence. (NT) -- JJ, 11:03:02 07/15/14 Tue She reminded me of Kathy too, particularly in these photos... But please listen to me when I tell you how beautiful she really is in person. The pics I've seen of her from this event simply do not do her justice. Once she gets styling right, she has a great face. Just give it a little time... :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:07:34 07/15/14 Tue OMG - It's Kathy from RHONJ -- BTW - I love Rosy (NT) -- Love Rosy, 19:50:13 07/15/14 Tue She does look kind of Housewives of NJ. But I think thats easily fixable. For starters, I think she absolutely needs to lighten her hair a bit, the dark brown/black is a huge factor in making her look RHoNJ. Also, her eyebrows need a little more fullness, and a little more shape. I think along with some simple styling changes (makeup change), she could be a huge contender. I actually really kind of like her, and can see past the issues to see why she would be a good fit. As someone mentioned, if MUO is going for the girl next door/sexy vibe like they have the past few years, this girl kind of has it. And, considering Miss USA is almost a year away, we all know she will probably rise to the top of everyones list by then. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:27:52 07/15/14 Tue I find her profile to be absolutely gorgeous! (NT) -- FutureMiss, 12:29:57 07/15/14 Tue I really like her! I see a lot of potential! (NT) -- Athalia, 12:42:33 07/15/14 Tue I think she is beautiful but I want to brush her hair. It needs some help. (NT) -- jmo, 15:31:31 07/15/14 Tue Her eyes remind me of Melissa McConnell, Miss LA USA 2004 (NT) -- DAPHNE, 15:57:17 07/15/14 Tue Her smile reminds me of Shawnae Jebbia. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 16:03:07 07/15/14 Tue There are A LOT of comparisons...and they all fit. Lol. (NT) -- HiJake, 16:05:36 07/15/14 Tue Shawnae! That's it! I've seen the resemblance to every titleholder that's been mentioned, but there was still someone that she reminded me of and I couldn't figure it out. (NT) -- JennNYC, 19:43:01 07/15/14 Tue She looks nothing like Shawnae Jebbia. (NT) -- Huh?, 12:24:05 07/19/14 Sat And she reminds me of a Bratz doll... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 12:53:46 07/19/14 Sat I dont like her AT ALL. Her eyes are creepy. (NT) -- Cal, 19:44:42 07/15/14 Tue I LOVE her! I get a Marissa Powell vibe from her (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 20:00:53 07/15/14 Tue I think she looks more like Teresa from RHONJ. I knew she reminded me of someone. Not a beauty queen IMO though (NT) -- PM, 20:35:20 07/15/14 Tue Sooo 70's with Marissa Powell vibes! Florida got it wrong for 2015! (NT) -- Hopefully, a better choice in 2016!, 10:43:17 07/19/14 Sat Same problem as Marissa Powell--attractive overall but wall-eyed. (NT) -- DeeDee, 13:45:56 07/19/14 Sat Okay, I agree that there haven't been amazing shots of her as Miss FL yet, but I just scrolled through her Instagram, and I'm a believer now. She's beautiful! And I think she might be as obsessed with her dog as I am with mine, so we cool...we cool. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 14:44:11 07/19/14 Sat Her side profile is great! But, looking at her head-on, ugh. Can she compete at USA with only her side profile? (NT) -- My Milkshake Brings, 18:56:42 07/20/14 Sun At least change the part in her hair. She is so beautiful and was the right pick to win (NT) -- taylor, 19:10:36 07/20/14 Sun I would love to see her in a side part with sexy Veronica Lake waves (NT) -- DAPHNE, 19:17:44 07/20/14 Sun Thanks Southerngirl..I just scrolled through her instagram pictures too. She is so beautiful. Takes amazing candids. Super thrilled with her win!!!! (NT) -- Crissy, 21:21:48 07/20/14 Sun I do not see a state titleholder here. She will be a clapper next year. The 1st ru was the best girl in my opinion. (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 18:29:42 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: Nia looks great at haze!
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:23:00 07/19/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don't bash girls but I gotta say she doesn't excite me AT ALL! I haven't seen a picture that blew me away yet! Not saying shes not pretty or nice or intelligent just nothing about her excites me. That make sense??? (NT) -- Andrew-TX, 12:15:53 07/19/14 Sat She looks great in black! She should consider it for Miss Universe. (NT) -- Athalia, 12:58:37 07/19/14 Sat She's sort of average looking. She's gone downhill since she won. (NT) -- DeeDee, 13:00:58 07/19/14 Sat I don't get it, of course she's beautiful, and very photogenic. Why, year after year, do you hags come out of the woodwork with nothing positive to say? (NT) -- ..,., 13:10:40 07/19/14 Sat I love Nia, but I don't have a problem with the negative opinions. I think it's important to hear everything (especially on a discussion board). Actually, nothing posted in this tread so far is particularly harsh or rude, except your own use of the word "hags." -- Doot, 13:20:14 07/19/14 Sat I hope you weren't refering to me as a "hag". All I was saying is I don't get that "it" girl thing when I see her pics. Yes she is beautiful and I'm sure poised and intelligent. She's MISS USA for goodness sake! I just don't really "feel" anything when I see her pics. I root for MISS USA every year during MISS UNIVERSE hoping and praying for a win and if she pulls it off great. But I don't think it will happen. I do think that if she hadn't moved to Nevada she would have a tough time continuing to compete in California. (NT) -- Andrew-TX, 20:01:20 07/19/14 Sat Did she get to vote whether or not she should be at a glitzy night club? As a national titleholder she should've been photographed in a church holding and reading the holy bible! (NT) -- Banalities, 18:44:25 07/19/14 Sat Um.. what? NO! lol Miss USA in a church for her homecoming? She Miss USA, she has to represent all cultures in the USA. I'm an American and I'm not a Christian. I like to keep church out of pageantry as much as possible, just like how I like separation of state and church. It doesn't belong there. (NT) -- If you want cookie cutter girls follow Miss America., 09:23:36 07/21/14 Mon SORRY SHES JUST BORING LOOKING, WILL BE LUCKY TO MAKE IT IN TOP 20 AT UNIVERSE. (NT) -- MY OPINION, 23:27:00 07/20/14 Sun Your "opinion" is wrong. :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:35:28 07/21/14 Mon That was rude! (NT) -- [><], 18:28:17 07/21/14 Mon The woman cannot take a bad picture! Very photogenic!! (NT) -- Freud, 23:58:22 07/20/14 Sun Lovely! I have no horse in the USA race but I do like her photos! (NT) -- Snowflake nsi, 07:19:53 07/21/14 Mon is this her homecoming? how fun! I bet it was a great party (NT) -- taylor, 10:20:17 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: Run down of all the systems and their differences?
Author: Thank you! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:14:49 07/19/14 Sat Hi there! Could someone please help me get a handle on all of the different systems in the US and their derivatives and everything else? Obviously Miss USA, which goes to Miss Universe: Miss America Miss United States now goes to Miss World? Miss International The "other" Miss International Miss SupraNatural? Miss Earth? What are the "big" ones? I'm a fairly new competitor and just aged out of MAO, and I'm not sure where to go from here, plus I think it'd be helpful for a lot of people to get all of the different systems in one place. Thanks everyone! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Miss USA - True Beauty Pageant! Beauty matters. Miss America - Talent competition and beauty doesnt matter. Miss International - head scratcher. Cant define it. Girls who do nothing in USA system do well here. Miss United States- have a track record o crowning average girls and most beautiful dont make the cut. Seems to have an affinity for girls from the Carolinas especially South Carolina. Hmmmmmm! Supranational and Earth are nothing brands in the USA. Dont know anyone who has done them or anything about them. (NT) -- Jmo, 04:38:04 07/21/14 Mon Miss America is more of an Interview competition that has a talent portion....to call it a "talent competition" is a joke considering the "talents" are often horrid. (NT) -- NFL, 16:21:53 07/21/14 Mon I'd like to hear more about High School America too. They have winners that have gone on to be state USA titkeholders and I know this year, the judging panel was heavy with USA reps including Kristin Dalton, her husband, and other formers. (NT) -- Thanks, 06:40:27 07/21/14 Mon High School and Collegiate America crown pretty girls who can speak and have a brain. Miss Minnesota USA 2014 and Miss California Teen USA 2014 are former National titleholders so that tells you what they look for. Its a system with a lot of potential but are weak at the state directorship level and many girls go "at-large" to a state they dont live in. They have no residency requirements. (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 18:26:25 07/21/14 Mon While each system may have their own definition of the ideal queen, the true difference is Miss America awards a higher percentage for interview than the other systems. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 09:25:44 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: Miss Hawaii Teen USA Send-Off BBQ
Author: Tiki-Java [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:59:45 07/21/14 Mon This afternoon, we gathered at Hokua for a send-off BBQ for Mariah Gosling of Waikiki, as she prepares to depart for the Miss Teen USA Pageant in The Bahamas. We know she'll represent the Aloha State well! Myself, Mariah, & Miss HI USA director Alicia Jones Kathryn Teruya, former Miss Hawaii Teen USA & Miss Teen USA semi-finalist was there to wish Mariah well. Thanks to Hawaii Island Photography! Last edited by author: Mon July 21, 2014 05:10:12 Edited 5 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Everything/everyone in Hawaii always looks so...enveloping. Tiki, can we all come hang out with you? (NT) -- GoldenBoy, 16:17:35 07/21/14 Mon But of course! (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 17:09:52 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: Miss Delaware Teen
Author: Lia [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:59:45 07/21/14 Mon Who about delaware's picks this year? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Miss Delaware Teen -- Nadia, 14:04:30 07/21/14 Mon I think she will make the semifinal. (NT) -- a fan, 14:55:49 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: Miss Universe Austria
Author: me3 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:21:53 07/21/14 Mon According to the Miss Universe official page, Miss Universe Austria is Nadine Stroitz, the runner-up. This photo with that caption is located under a group of photos of Gabriela's visit to Austria to judge the contest. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Finally, a picture of Molly with a beauty queen that looks older than her. I'm gonna say that she's a no. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 09:00:39 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: Which Contestant Relates To This Song?
Author: Ashthon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:09:01 07/20/14 Sun We have done this twice before, and thought it was fun. So I thought I'd bring this up again. I went to I-tunes and picked some of the most popular songs at the present time. Going by the title of the song only, and not the meaning, which former or present contestant or winner does each song relate to you? 1. "Dark Horse" by Katy Perry 2. "Girl In A Country Song" by Maddie & Tae 3. "She Looks So Perfect" by 5 Seconds of Summer 4 " She Twerkin" by Ca$h Out 5. "Break Free" by Ariana Grande feat. Zedd 6. "Let It Go" by Idina Menzel 7. "My Eyes" by Blake Shelton 8. " Everything I Didn't Say" by 5 Seconds of Summer 9. " Story of My Life" by One Direction 10. "Boom Clap" by Charli XCX [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Some of these are tough. 1. Dark Horse - 2. Girl In A Country Song - Erin Brady for being in the country music video. 3. She Looks So Perfect - Larissa Meek, my favorite pageant contestant to date. 4. She Twerkin - Rima Fakih and her pole dancing. 5. Break Free - Whoever Miss Delaware USA 2015 is, so she can break free and finally place. 6. Let It Go - No one recently comes to mind, but I would say Sheena Monnin and her controversies. 7. My Eyes - Serene Aandahl, I remember when her teen pic was posted how I was drawn to how beautiful her eyes were. 8. Everything I Didn't Say - Marissa Powell, she was my Miss USA 2013 until..well, I think everyone gets the point. 9. Story Of My Life - Valerie Gatto and her story about how she got she was conceived. 10. Boom Clap - When Shannon McAnally was left clapping last year I felt like throwing my TV out the window and that could made a boom sound, lol. (NT) -- PF-Indy, 00:58:50 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: Miss Universe 2014 top 15 !
Author: Cerritos Boy! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:42:30 07/21/14 Mon Ukraine, Philippines, USA, S. Africa ,Venezuela, Colombia, Australia, Mexico, Puerto Rico and Poland! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I love Panama and hope she makes the cut! (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 00:49:47 07/21/14 Mon

Subject: GABRIELA in Azerbaijan. Austria, Germany, Slovakia and Czech Republic
Author: g [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:24:25 07/19/14 Sat http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/10499275_1452499835025074_691896527_n.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs1xgQRIAAAedpR.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/29f2e12.png https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bswk-GpCMAAyiIo.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsgS_JtIQAAt-Yx.jpg:large https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10434031_10152631234749047_8758040569556966613_n.jpg [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Good for her. Obviously, being a Miss Universe from the USA must be bad for business because Olivia didn't get to travel like this. (NT) -- delilah, 23:55:39 07/19/14 Sat Yup. Doesn't matter if any future Miss USA is the best girl in the world and gorgeous to boot she will not be Miss Universe for a very, very long time. It's not in MUO's best interest and it's not to hard to see why. Latinas tend to travel the most so it's no surprise they keep crowning them. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 00:05:41 07/20/14 Sun Gabriela is traveling on a Swiss passport? Her grandfather is Swiss right? Cool, she does not have to worry about a visa. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 01:02:05 07/20/14 Sun Apparently she was given a lot of crap after she posted the picture of her swiss passport by Venezuelans. She then posted saying that because of that swiss passport she can travel a lot more but she was raised and has lived in Venezuela her whole life and that's where her heart lies. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 21:38:42 07/20/14 Sun I think you guys are right. She has visited almost twice the # of countries Olivia visited in half the time... (NT) -- There is something about Molly and being a Latina, 02:11:36 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: MISS TEEN USA PREDICTIONS BASED ON HEADSHOTS
Author: westtnmommy [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:51:32 07/16/14 Wed TOP 20: ALABAMA ARIZONA ARKANSAS CALIFORNIA COLORADO CONNETICUT FLORIDA GEORGIA ILLINOIS KENTUCKY MICHIGAN MISSISSIPPI MONTANA NEVADA OHIO PENNSYLVANIA SOUTH CAROLINA TEXAS UTAH VIRGINIA WEST VIRGINA TOP 15- CO, MS, OH, SC, VA, WV, UT, TX, GA, MT, PA, CA, NV, KY, FL TOP 10- CA, PA, FL, KY, NV, MT, GA, UT, TX, WV TOP 5- 4TH RUNNER UP- FLORIDA 3RD RUNNER UP- KENTUCKY 2ND RUNNER UP- NEVADA 1ST RUNNER UP- CALIFORNIA MISS TEEN USA- PENNSYLVANIA [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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LOUISIANA will definitely, 100%, make the cut! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:54:13 07/16/14 Wed I like Louisiana but I want to see more of her. (NT) -- Westtnmommy, 16:31:22 07/16/14 Wed ICEMAN I just went to Louisiana's webpage and looked at her other professional pictures and she is absolutely gorgeous. Can we have a Top 21? She's beautiful, I like some of her other headshots better then her official Teen USA headshot and thats why I passed her up! (NT) -- Westtnmommy, 16:37:07 07/16/14 Wed Her beauty is not even why I have her in. She is a wonderful person. I know that sounds cliche'... But she is a theater girl, very animated, can talk to a wall, actually has a genuine platform regarding reading.... She's just a true gem. Her interview will be one of the best out of the 51. Then you get her on stage and she will rock both swimsuit and gown! I haveLouisiana in my top 5, and not just because she is my home state... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 09:59:16 07/17/14 Thu Can someone post some of their other pics besides their headshots we know they are going to be good (NT) -- Phyllis, 09:34:54 07/17/14 Thu Oz had a great album on her fb page, it was them in their crowns, which many of them looked very different in. I actually based my top 15 picks off of those pictures (and a little bit of FB stalking :]) because I knew that the head shots were very different. For example. NY is the cutest little thing in her headshot, and while still a pretty girl, looks much different in "real life". (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:48:58 07/17/14 Thu You are right about NY. I do not think she will make it into finals this year. (NT) -- PM, 16:12:26 07/17/14 Thu Great Idea. WASHINGTON for example has great pictures posted in the Miss Washington Teen USA facebook page. (NT) -- She looks great in many of those pictures. I was very impressed with her looks in those photos., 13:09:02 07/17/14 Thu I hope PA quits this trend she has been on lately with filling in THICK brows with pencil (NT) -- It looks a mess, 15:28:52 07/18/14 Fri California and PA...last two....LOVE it!! (NT) -- ETB-CA, 19:38:10 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: More FL pics from their flickr
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:09:14 07/13/14 Sun Top five L to R Lacey Morgan (3RU), Kailyn Perez (1RU), Ashleigh Lollie, Jessica Voight (2RU), Heather Martin (4RU) - from this angle Ashleigh reminds me of Erza Haliti Miss ID USA 2011 Miss FL USA 2015 Ashleigh Lollie with former titleholders, L to R, Anastagia Pierre (09), Shannon Ford (02), Brittany Oldehoff (14), Michelle Aguirre (13), Lissette Garcia (11) & Megan Clementi (10) Last edited by author: Sun July 13, 2014 02:11:18 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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In reality, I think this was a weak top 5. I'm glad Ashleigh won, but Heather Martin is a real stand out here. Ashleigh sure looks like a cross between a lot of titleholders! It's like with every new pic she reminds me of someone else. I remember in the intro vids posted a few weeks ago, she was giving me vibes of Richelle Orr. I see Ezra here, and in the other photos I totally saw the cross between Julianna and Jesica. No wonder she won photogenic! (NT) -- JennNYC, 02:18:29 07/13/14 Sun Here she looks like Erza Haliti. She has a very Eastern European look (or she must be). Don't love her hair or gown but I think she's very pretty and can do very well with some styling tweaks (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 02:53:10 07/13/14 Sun She's a very attractive girl, but she looks old in these photos. Disappointed in this T5. They should at least have made it a contest. Some of the prettier girls were left out. (NT) -- delilah, 03:09:18 07/13/14 Sun Other than the first RU the rest are average at best. I mean seriously unattractive choices. I have a feeling they were going for brainy. I too thought last years winner was tragically butch looking but she had some sex appeal. Maybe it is the pics. That tall girl though on the left, she's high potential. Universe style. -- Blah, 13:53:52 07/13/14 Sun You thought Brittany Oldehoff was butch looking?? (NT) -- Groove, 16:11:33 07/13/14 Sun Surprise top 5, but then I didn't watch the pageant. Glad Kailyn was up there! Ashleigh was a standout in prelim pics, so I am happy for her! (NT) -- Athalia, 04:27:20 07/13/14 Sun The top 5 was a surprise for many who watched it too ;) (NT) -- oz-usb, 04:29:19 07/13/14 Sun Can anyone tell me the name of the designer of Heather Martin's gown? I absolutely need to order this for my clients next competition. (NT) -- 123, 08:42:54 07/13/14 Sun Agree - gorg dress & I predict we will see it mutliple times during the upcoming pageant season... (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 09:41:53 07/13/14 Sun Shannon, Michelle and Lissette must have bought their dresses at Berta y Pepe, on Calle Ocho... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 09:49:17 07/13/14 Sun OMG the second girl from the left is stunning. She is tall and gorgeous. Didn't watch the pageant so I don't know how she looks in swimsuit or how she answered, but she looks like a Miss Universe contestant. The winner reminds me of a younger Theresa form RHW of New Jersey. (NT) -- JJ, 15:34:36 07/13/14 Sun Out of all the formers in this photo, I gotta give it to Anastagia. They all look great, but she STILL looks amazing. (NT) -- Groove, 16:04:14 07/13/14 Sun I think she could have benefitted by waiting a few years, she looked a lot more glamorous in later years (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 17:24:45 07/13/14 Sun I agree. It's like she peaked 5 years later! You can't blame her for starting early in the Miss division, but I think had she competed in 2012, 2013, or 2014 she could have been a contender. (NT) -- It could also be because now she is married and has found someone to bring out that extra sparkle in her. Love her., 12:02:29 07/14/14 Mon OK I will ask, what happenned to Michelle? Maybe it's a bad angle? (NT) -- chexmex, 16:08:06 07/13/14 Sun I thought the same thing, too. I don't think it's the angle; I think it (NT) -- Groove, 16:12:35 07/13/14 Sun ...it's weight gain; same with Lissette from what I can tell. (NT) -- Groove, 16:13:42 07/13/14 Sun Don't get me wrong, Michelle is still gorgeous but it makes me think how much these girls train to be in competion mode. They are athletes in their own regard. (NT) -- chexmex, 16:18:15 07/13/14 Sun I don't know if that can really be said uniformly. A lot of these girls' weight fluctuations scare me. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 20:35:26 07/13/14 Sun I think they all look amazing. Very few can keep their pageant body. All look healthy and fit and isn't that what we want our young girls to see. -- fan, 09:48:26 07/14/14 Mon Pic from this Miss Florida USA 15 weekend. Michelle is healthy and beautiful as is Lissette. Both are still in great shape(pic posted above was just a weird angle). So time to chillax people and step down from the ledge. (NT) -- Qban, 12:38:32 07/14/14 Mon Whew, someone's clothes are too tight in this pic. (NT) -- My Milkshake Brings, 19:10:12 07/20/14 Sun I've seen many recent photos of Michelle in a bikini on her Instagram site - trust - she is still in great shape and looks FANTASTIC. Even so, in the photo above she and Brittany are the stand-outs IMO. (NT) -- djm (not signed in), 12:46:45 07/14/14 Mon She looks like Kathy from the RHONJ in the bottom photo. (NT) -- Phyllis Darnell, 12:56:15 07/14/14 Mon Hmmm, I think my comments were taken out of context. I said that they ALL still look great (but Anastagia looked amazing, considering she last competed in 2009). I simply noticed that Michelle and Lissette didn't look as "cut" as they were when they competed. I've never been fond of skinny, muscular girls, and I've made note of that in several posts. I much prefer the way the aforementioned Florida formers look now. (NT) -- Groove, 13:03:08 07/14/14 Mon It's cool, later you responded to chexmex that it was probably weight gain (which is expected and normal) but just wanted to quell any rumors or misperceptions. She is STILL dabomb.com and in great shape. No one should be expected to be in competition mode for 365 days and not to mention she gave her crown up 2 years ago. (NT) -- Qban, 13:15:20 07/14/14 Mon Bottom line, they ARE athletes. Pageants just push a womans body to be perfect. I get spoiled with expecting them to be perfect all the time. Should have kept my comment to myself. Love this sport so much. (NT) -- chexmex, 14:03:43 07/14/14 Mon I thought ALL of the past Florida titleholders in attendance looked fantastic! I dont see what all the fuss is about... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 09:51:01 07/15/14 Tue Was beauty even a thought in this pageant? (NT) -- Surely there were 5 other girls that looked better than this., 21:57:57 07/14/14 Mon YOU DIDN'T watch the pageant!!! Beauty was totally thought out, and Brittany looked amazing. You two should get a room. (NT) -- chexmex, 23:28:35 07/14/14 Mon Yes I did. At least 10 others had these 5 beat by a mile. (NT) -- Get your eyes examined., 13:27:36 07/15/14 Tue Yeah, not feeling this new miss at all and what's up with Brittany. Is she having work done on her face or something. She looks totally different than when she was first crowned. (NT) -- NoPonytailsPlease, 22:40:13 07/14/14 Mon I think this is just an overall bad picture of all of them. The new Miss doesn't look nearly as beautiful as she is, Michelle looks strangely larger, which we know she is not, even Anastagia doesn't look her best in this picture. So I think it might just be a bad angle/lighting in general, because no one looks good. As far as work on Brittanys face, I don't know. I think her face might just be a little fuller from gaining a little weight after MUSA. And by gaining a little weight I am NOT saying she is fat (before any of the BOlde fans jump on me) it is just natural to gain a little bit of weight after being on such a strict diet and work out regimen for MUSA. You start eating normally, even healthy still, and it just naturally happens. She still looks great, I think this is just a bad picture for everyone. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:35:22 07/15/14 Tue Yuck. Sorry, but where was Brie in this mess? (NT) -- Twinx, 09:28:46 07/15/14 Tue They got it so wrong in this pageant. How can they let go of a beauty like the 1st. RU like that? She has Miss USA and Miss Universe written all over. The winner; well no comment. (NT) -- JS, 12:43:39 07/15/14 Tue As much as you all wanted Kailyn to win, she did not. How rude for all the backlash Ashliegh has recieved. She won fair and square. Grant the Miss Florida GM was hurt badly physically after the pageant. He may have permanent physical damage to his ears just because the girl they wanted to win lost. This is getting ugly quick, I hope it resolves itself. (NT) -- chexmex, 13:28:53 07/15/14 Tue Was there booing in the audience? My feed kept going in and out at pertinent times and I missed the crowning. I saw it later on youtube, but by then any booing (if it happened) could be filtered out. (NT) -- delilah, 22:44:35 07/15/14 Tue Grant was HURT? This is the first time I ever hear of a pageant director in the USA system being hurt. Who hurt him or should I say, whose fans? (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 01:50:40 07/16/14 Wed He was leaving the Weston Diplomat hotel and a truck with huge horns blew them as he was going by. The sound level was so high it blew his eardrums and he was bleeding. He might have partial hearing loss, but nothing has been confirmed. Who knows who did it but it appears to be malicious. Hopefull he will recover soon and find the culfprits. (NT) -- unfortunate, 10:00:19 07/16/14 Wed I know we have 11 months until Miss USA but if Miss USA were tomorrow this girl would NOT stand a chance, sorry. The whole point in state pageants is to crown someone who is Miss USA ready and she clearly is not. Im just scratching my head on this one. (NT) -- Westtnmommy, 22:39:41 07/15/14 Tue Well Miss USA IS NOT tomorrow so that is not even an issue. This girl is raw beauty and am thrilled with her win!!! Ashleigh girl CONGRATS!!! Have an amazing year beautiful girl!!! (NT) -- Crissy, 23:28:06 07/15/14 Tue I understand the argument about girls being crowned that are USA ready-but would understand more if USA was in fact tomorrow, or at the very least in 2 months (kind of like some of the girls crowned for Miss America in the summer). If every girls was crowned USA ready, odds are they won't stay USA ready,especially when the pageant is 11 months from their crowning date. There's a lot of time for improvement, and I don't think Ashleigh needs a lot of that. I like her hair down, but would like to see what it looks like up (or, if she's going to wear it down, see it styled differently than just hanging straight). (NT) -- JennNYC, 15:15:08 07/16/14 Wed IIts really not even an issue! Ashleigh will be more than ready, especially 11 months from now! Personally I thought her biggest issue was modeling. It wasnt bad, just looked a little amateur-ish. Easy fix with a little practice. And her hair. Once someone gets her to pull it back and out of her face, she will be superb. Without knowing the rest of the field just yet, I'd say she's a pretty solid early pick for the top 10, maybe top 5. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 16:01:00 07/16/14 Wed If Miss USA were tomorrow Ashleigh would without a doubt be the winner because she is the only state that has been crowned! (NT) -- Jeannie, 11:14:16 07/16/14 Wed I dont know maybe its me but I just really like to see girls that when they are crowned at state you say man that girl c ould definately be a Top 5 finisher. I know its not realistic at all but its just my preference. I just dont see it with her. Now watch her prove me wrong and alot of others and win the whole thing but I just personally prefer the 1st runner up instead. (NT) -- westtnmommy, 15:30:31 07/16/14 Wed

Subject: SIGH.... one of these days....
Author: USBModStacey [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:33:55 07/20/14 Sun Someone is going to buy me these Mickey Mouse gloves when I direct my show! LOL I am SUCH A FAN of these gloves.... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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give this guy the Miss USA crown, then he'll have the Mickey ears to complete the look! (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 16:31:08 07/20/14 Sun you can buy them at the disney online store disneyears I think (NT) -- catalina, 18:46:28 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Good news from Portugal!
Author: HawtPlusSeksi [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:31:53 07/20/14 Sun There is a new franchise that took over 3 of the Grand Slam pageants including UNIVERSE + 2 smaller pageants. The original Miss Portugal was discontinued in 2002, in 2011 a delegate was appointed to represent PT and she made the top 10 at Universe, but this will be the first pageant per se since 2002! https://www.facebook.com/missrepublicaportuguesa?fref=ts [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That's great news! I always love when countries that used to compete return to Miss Universe. Bring back Luxembourg, Malta, Bermuda, Suriname, Greenland, Senegal, Bulgaria,Cook Islands, Northern Marianas, Iceland, Kenya, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Latvia, Gibraltar, and Bonaire (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 05:03:26 07/20/14 Sun AAhh I miss Iceland! (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 11:12:35 07/20/14 Sun Actually in 2011, the representative was not appointed. They held a small Miss Universe Portugal Pageant. I remember seeing the pictures. (NT) -- Sao Paulo, 15:26:21 07/20/14 Sun I would love to see more island nations from the Caribbean and Pacific represented (Fiji, Tahiti, Samoa, Bermuda, Grenada, Cook Islands, Martinique), as well as more African countries represented. I'd also love to see the return of Papua New Guinea. (NT) -- JennNYC, 17:44:52 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Questions...HELP!
Author: NNPNick [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:53:29 07/20/14 Sun Hey Everyone...been a long time since I have posted but I frequent the board still. I have a question and a comment I hope people can help me with. 1: Has anyone seen "After Shock" on E! about Tara? I missed it and it hasn't been replayed. I cannot find it online either. 2: Is anyone else as excited as me that Erin Brady is hosting MTUSA this year?!?! I think she is going to do fabulous. Last edited by author: Sun July 20, 2014 15:54:29 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I saw it, it was really good. Donald Trump said it was no secret they didn't want to keep Tara as Miss USA at the time. Tara also admitted it was Katie Blair who threw her under the bus, running to MUO about her.Sober for 7 years! (NT) -- taylor, 16:18:32 07/20/14 Sun Tara "confronted" Katie on Pageant Place re: turning her in. They made it seem all intense in previews but Tara actually hugged and thanked Katie for what she did, saying something along the lines of it was one of the best things to have happened to her. (NT) -- RockyGirl, 17:19:34 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Game of Crowns
Author: pageantrella [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:54:15 07/13/14 Sun What are your thoughts? I am horrified. I am mesmerized. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Watching the replay now. (NT) -- Anon, 00:44:22 07/14/14 Mon And we wonder why people outside of pageantry have such a bad impression of it! They behave like a disgrace! Childish behavior! Mean girls! Bishes!!! Hate this so much! They should all be ashamed. (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 03:15:41 07/14/14 Mon This show is the best trainwreck ever. I have friends not involved in pageants in any way and they sat their and laughed their asses off at them/the show. And then we realized how uncomfotable it all was. A bunch of married women chasing crowns. It just came across as ridiculous to the outsiders and was interesting to hear their opinions on mrs pageants and the ones competing in them on the show. (NT) -- jmo, 13:36:18 07/14/14 Mon The problem is most people don't realize these trolls are not like most of the pageant world. (NT) -- A, 14:54:54 07/20/14 Sun Haha! It's entertaining! I much rather watch these ladies act up versus people looking for love or paying people to find someone for them to love. Lol. I really like Lori Ann. (NT) -- HiJake, 19:15:54 07/14/14 Mon Why are they all from CT or RI? I've yet to watch and doubt I will but read through their bios on Bravo.com. Admittedly not fully understanding the draw of Mrs pageants as a Mrs myself, the interesting psychological case study is what drives women who are overachievers, career professionals, wives, mothers, children's book authors, etc to also seek validation in the pageant circuit. I often hear of friendships formed and camaraderie but isn't being all of those other things enough? Then go expose yourself and your families to the cheapest and most degrading form of entertainment- reality tv shows. Someone explain this to me. (NT) -- Snowflake, 22:21:09 07/14/14 Mon Here's my hypothesis on why the show is being shot here in Southern New England (CT/RI/MA). Lynne Diamante is the CEO of OPTX RI who is a MUO sponsor. She attended both Miss USA & Miss Universe 2012 pageants in Vegas. Andy Cohen cohosted both pageants. Sometime during or after the pageants, Lynne sold Andy & the executives on Bravo about this new show following Mrs. pageant contestants just like Toddlers & Tiaras covers childrens' pageants. (NT) -- Anon, 23:35:59 07/15/14 Tue Very interesting. And I suppose selecting only regional cast members makes sense so they can keep the budget low. No need to pay for expensive travel or overnights. Recently read an exposé about how poorly reality personalities and production staff are treated. We view junk on TV and vote to see more of it by watching. (NT) -- Snowflake, 23:41:16 07/15/14 Tue Also, it's easier to shoot multiple cast members at each other's homes if they live relatively close to each other. You couldn't shoot this in Texas where El Paso & Houston (for example) are hours away from each other. (NT) -- Anon, 01:23:54 07/16/14 Wed Are you surprised????? Bravo's Game of Throwns -- Ear-Biting Rampage at Show Premier. http://www.tmz.com/2014/07/13/game-of-crowns-bravo-show-fight-red-carpet-premiere-party-fight-ear-bitten-photos/ (NT) -- pageantrella, 03:46:37 07/15/14 Tue Isn't the accused ear biter a COP??? (NT) -- ., 19:51:36 07/15/14 Tue Yes. (NT) -- pageantrella, 01:32:07 07/16/14 Wed This show is pathetic. It's so obvious these women are trying to overly dramatic for tv and it's sad. They are just projecting superficial and shallow to the world. How are these grown women acting like and think for even one second it makes them look good. They all look like fools. Talk about zero credibility. And thank you cast for continuing the stereotype that real pageant competitiors are trying to break. Pathetic. (NT) -- So disgusted., 11:59:24 07/15/14 Tue Is it what was "Crown Chasers" before? I watched that. Trainwreck. Kinda liked it. (NT) -- FlawLESS, 08:44:09 07/16/14 Wed There is no connection between Crown Chasers & GOC, AFAIK. (NT) -- Anon, 22:46:35 07/16/14 Wed What's AFAIK? (NT) -- FlawLESS, 09:07:21 07/17/14 Thu As Far As I Know :) (NT) -- RockyGirl, 09:32:44 07/17/14 Thu Dude, I am so not cool. I feel old right now. :) (NT) -- FlawLESS, 09:39:40 07/17/14 Thu I also didn't know this acronym (and apparently should:-) Hi, Rocky! Call me! (NT) -- Snowflake, 06:04:42 07/18/14 Fri i owe you, like, a 3hour call and 5000 emails! (NT) -- RockyGirl, 10:49:25 07/18/14 Fri Back in the USA in 6 days, RG! Been composing an email to you for about 3 months. It's isn't long but we've been a bit pulled hither and thither. (NT) -- Snowflake, 07:12:23 07/19/14 Sat The ratings for the premier episode are supposedly worse that Eat Drink Love that Bravo cancelled after only 3 weeks. (NT) -- Anon, 01:50:16 07/17/14 Thu This show is awful and I am about to stop admitting I am involved in the pageant world if shows like this are on. These psychos represent about 0.0000009% of the pageant worls but the public will think we are all that way. Makes me sick. (NT) -- pageant fan, 03:30:49 07/20/14 Sun Horrible show-the women's behavior is embarrassing (NT) -- taylor, 17:08:18 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Venezuela is gone FAT (Well, pageant fat that is)
Author: Zero-Defect [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:21:47 07/11/14 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Oh my gosh I've seen some pictures and I'm surprised Osmel didn't lock her up in room with a treadmill (because that seems like the kinda thing he would do). I think she's beautiful regardless of the extra weight and it actually suits her very well but I think she'll turn it around in time for the pageant. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 10:22:59 07/11/14 Fri i'm just like "so what?" to this. venezuela, with 7 miss universes, 6 miss worlds, 6 miss internationals, and 2 miss earths. they're allowed to fail too. and with a venezuelan as the current miss universe, i don't think a back-to-back win will happen again. -- g, 10:56:21 07/11/14 Fri I hope this isn't bloating from an eating disorder :( You never know with Venezuela, the pressure is insane. (NT) -- Athalia, 12:40:07 07/11/14 Fri I know I may be the only one, but I do not find this years delegate attractive what so ever. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 16:35:15 07/11/14 Fri I dunno, her facial features just pop. Even in these shots, she's got a pageant-perfect face complete with megawatt smile and sparkle in her eyes. She always looks this way. (NT) -- Judges will have a very hard time NOT noticing her., 16:49:30 07/11/14 Fri The girl was crowned in October of last year. This year's pageant will probably not happen until after then. She probably figured she might as well lay off the dieting for a while and enjoy herself some homemade arepas and vino. Her team will whip her into shape as the home stretch for Miss Universe approaches - they can work wonders with their eyes closed. Even her 1st ru and the rep going to International gained similar weight. (NT) -- Can't expect her to be in competition shape for a whole year or more. Not sustainable., 16:42:04 07/11/14 Fri This is probably a bad pic because there is no way in HECK Osmel will send THIS girl to Miss Universe. I think she is gorgeous and looks great but Osmel will dethrone her and send the next girl for that weight gain. I kinda feel sorry for her. (NT) -- Bmyvalentine, 18:35:19 07/11/14 Fri I do smell something odd with this. Philippine Girl is also admittedly bulking. MUO must have sent memo that they dont want stick thin girls this year. She's in bulking phase obviously, lets wait her cutting phase. (NT) -- KiwiGuy, 20:15:10 07/11/14 Fri lol as if Osmel would ever let a Miss Venezuela disappear into fat air. I believe they're just letting it all out of her system and will begin the furious transformation and training beginning of August. I trust Osmel. (NT) -- eloise, 00:56:30 07/12/14 Sat I've been seeing the sweatshirt photo circling on Misso for months now...if you can definitively tell me when it was taken I would be shocked. Do some research before you post something as sensitive as this topic...she is looking perfectly fit in recent appearances (NT) -- LA Liz, 01:14:18 07/12/14 Sat Sadly, I'm not into "pageant research"... I'm not a crazy ass pageant fan who visits tens of thousands of forums.I particularly stay away from virus-infected Missososo-so-crap! So when I saw it, it was new to me. (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 02:44:18 07/12/14 Sat I mean no you're not held to journalistic standards but of course on a message board when you post something as conclusive as "Venezuela has gone fat" there's always the possibility someone will attempt to set the record straight. I guess that's just bc I'm a crazy ass pageant fan though (NT) -- LA Liz, 04:21:48 07/12/14 Sat SO why don't you post a recent pic of her to set the record straight? (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 05:10:41 07/12/14 Sat She looks fine in her Instagram pictures. I do remember seeing this sweatshirt pic months ago when misso first blew up about her supposed weight gain. Here's another pic of her in that red dress at the same event, and she doesn't look big at all. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 12:41:16 07/13/14 Sun Truth be told, I think someone's monkeying with pics and videos of her to make it seem like she's heavy. There was a video posted on misso with the aspect ratio changed, so that she did look wide. In the original video, she looked great. She's got a round face, so yeah, in some pics without lots of skin showing, she could look chubby, I guess. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 12:43:38 07/13/14 Sun With the slightly rounder face she channels Oxana, me thinks. -- JKF, 05:26:24 07/12/14 Sat Christina Aguilera before the weight loss. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:42:14 07/12/14 Sat I think this girl is absolutely beautiful. She looks stunning either way. The foundation of beauty is there, and it's so easy for her to start an exercise regimen and lose the weight by the time MU rolls around. Actors do it all the time. The bottom line is that she's a beauty - heavier AND thinner. Alicia Machado went through the same thing, and it seems to be something that happens now and then. People gain weight - big deal. With a reigning Miss Universe from Venezuela, I don't think he's super concerned about winning the title again. 2008, 2009, 2013. That's three Miss Universe wins in six years. If this girl won, it would merely be icing on the cake. (NT) -- Rogue, 08:53:39 07/12/14 Sat Her facial features are really extra ordinary. Whether they are natural or have been achieved surgically is another topic. Her face is almost perfect. Very beautiful gal. (NT) -- Sifiso, 12:25:48 07/12/14 Sat Whatever. She's still got an amazing womanly body. AND her face is beautiful no matter her weight. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 14:09:22 07/12/14 Sat Are you posting this to prop your South African gurl? hahaha (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 15:56:28 07/12/14 Sat This post should be labeled 'wishful thinking' - we all know that she will arrive at MU ready to compete as VZ usually does. (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 17:51:55 07/12/14 Sat ^^^ This ^^^ (NT) -- 30+ yrs of history says so, 19:06:54 07/12/14 Sat I don't remember when it has happened before in Venezuela. There are a few cases like Mariangel Ruiz who put in a few extra kilos but Migbelis has gone far more than any other B4. Even Alicia Machado was responsible enough to mantain the weight until she was crown MU. She was very irresponsable after she got what she wanted but only after that.. I remember in her first interview as MU she was asked what she was going to do now that she was MU and she said "Eat" and she di so. But not I am not 100% sure Migbelis is gonna be fit only because she is MV. This is not what typically venezuelans do: Gain weight and lose it when is close to the competition (NT) -- Realistic venezuelan, 08:41:12 07/16/14 Wed True, but it doesn't help that she was crowned almost a year before her Miss Universe competition. It's very hard to keep a competition-ready diet and exercise regimen for that long. Your body develops a tolerance to routines and fights against you. Also, the fact that Molly Isler won probably doesn't help either. Migeblis understands that the odds are WAY against her pulling a back to back. Such a shame because when she won, Molly Isler's victory a month later was not that clear. (NT) -- Fate works in mysterrious ways sometimes., 13:06:03 07/16/14 Wed The last thing MUO needs is another Alicia Machado! Migbelis is history! (NT) -- NO more a threat nor a challenge to PHILIPPINES, SOUTH AFRICA and USA!, 20:06:11 07/19/14 Sat I must agree with you. Venezuela does not need that either. It took 12 years to clean up the bad impression Alicia left. It was not only the fact that she got fat. She was also kind of difficult and was often making inappropriate comments about the MUO. Remember clearly one she made in Colombia when she said she could not wait to pass the crown as she was already fed up. Somehow Migbelis reminds me a lot Alicia and not I personally would not mind if we pass this year. We have had 3 good representatives lately. They were not only good contestants but good MU. It does not matter if people like them or not. They assumed the job as it was. They knew exactly what they were getting into when they got into competition (NT) -- Realistic venezuelan, 08:02:17 07/20/14 Sun I can’t stand girls like Alicia Machado or Oxana Fedorova that seem to think that everything ends when they are crowned MU. So, yes I was very happy with Migbelis when she was crowned but she has either shown not much responsibility or a metabolism problem. For me it means she is not fit for what the job request. BTW she is still heavier despite those photos in instagram. The real Migbelis is the one we see hosting locals pageants in Venezuela like these ones. The rest could be old/touched pics. She is still heavier than the one that was crowned MV (NT) -- Realistic venezuelan, 08:05:05 07/20/14 Sun This happened to Taliana Vargas and she came to Vietnam perfectly fit. (NT) -- HCF, 11:38:29 07/13/14 Sun Great example. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:32:13 07/20/14 Sun This is VENEZUELA we are talking about. No matter how this lady looks now she WILL arrive at MU fit, fierce and ready to compete. I still see her making the top 5. (NT) -- Kev, 02:32:14 07/15/14 Tue Even though she is "fat" I still think she is stunning. Her face is beautiful, and I have no doubt that she will show up at Miss Universe and automatically walk into the top 5. Its Venezuela! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 12:38:26 07/16/14 Wed She gives me a very current Miss Universe 1996 Alicia Machado vibe to her. That could be a good thing or a bad thing because Alicia was absolutely beautiful but I remember Trump not liking it when she gained alot of weight after she was crowned. (NT) -- westtnmommy, 15:24:43 07/16/14 Wed News site La Nacion ( http://www.nacion.com/ocio/farandula/Ponen-dieta-Miss-Venezuela_0_1421657937.html ) shows an interview with Migbelis, where she mentions that she spent two months in Atlanta, GA, in order to improve her English and her body was "destroyed" because food in the USA is very different and has different hormones... she also says that Osmel threatened to send another girl to MU. I love, and laugh, when foreigners say that food in America is filled with "fattening hormones" in order to explain their changes in shape... lol... Stunning Miss Venezuela should stop the bs and start the oldest, and most efficacious, diet in history: "Close your mouth and eat healthy"...lol (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 12:00:07 07/17/14 Thu She is beautiful, "fat" or not... I fully expect her to be very competitive at Miss Universe. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 12:22:50 07/17/14 Thu I agree...I would say she has the most beautiful face of MU 2014 so far... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 12:40:19 07/17/14 Thu She went to Atlanta to learn to speak English better??? LOL. (NT) -- My Milkshake Brings, 15:22:50 07/20/14 Sun She doesn't look fat on her Instagram pics from July. http://instagram.com/milynette (NT) -- FlawLESS, 14:50:42 07/17/14 Thu I've done some Googling and I think that sweatshirt pic is old. She is 19 now and that pic looks like it came before she competed at Miss V. Search Google images and you will see tons of pics including ones of her when she was a little girl. She has always had some plumpness in her cheeks but she was always adorable. I think the OP was mistaken with the date of the pic. (NT) -- Bmyvalentine (not logged in), 10:48:33 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: I know that we already have the Mr. USB picture shown above... But I wanted to give a sincere thank you and "shout out" to Benizo for graciously taking the time to volunteer his services for this annual photo opportunity. Its great to have this Mr. USB reunion, and even better that Benizo is there to guide us in our official photos. He is one of a kind, and fantastic to work with. Thanks again Benizo, my Mr. USB brothers, and our national director, Britt Harrison. Cant wait to do it again next year!
Author: ICEMAN [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:23:02 07/08/14 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Stacey, please ensure that for next year's group shots, our darlings dudes are in tux and SWIMWEAR!!! (NT) -- Wishful thinking, 18:11:05 07/08/14 Tue ha ha! I am not sure I will be able to pull that one off with them :) (NT) -- USBModStacey, 13:02:05 07/09/14 Wed We always have a blast with Benizo! And it was GREAT to have Britt finally with us this time! :) (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 04:05:35 07/09/14 Wed Britt has the best howdy doodies. HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWT!!!!!! (NT) -- BamaMan, 08:05:33 07/09/14 Wed LOL, thanks Bama, I was wondering when you were going to comment. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 13:01:05 07/09/14 Wed They are indeed great photos. Really love how Iceman stands out. (Blush). (NT) -- Twinx, 09:35:54 07/09/14 Wed This was so much fun! Thank you Benizo for working with us! And thank you to Stacey and my USB Brothers for working with my theme, we look HOT! One Direction ain't got nothing on us! :-P Miss y'all! (NT) -- JayBay, 09:42:04 07/09/14 Wed Guys, can someone kindly clarify who Britt Harrison is???? (NT) -- Still in the dark, 10:50:24 07/19/14 Sat I run the Mr. USB contest, so in essence, I am their Director. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 16:31:59 07/19/14 Sat So Britt and ModStacey are the same person. (NT) -- I had thought that they were two different persons. Thanks for clarifying!, 19:47:50 07/19/14 Sat Whats the name or nick of Mr. USB 2013? I think he is very handsome He he (NT) -- Realistic venezuelan- just curious, 07:12:44 07/20/14 Sun It's so nice to see all these gay guys wearing sashes and having a great time at the Mr USB. I love to see their bios when they compete for the title. It is fun to see men of all ages and sizes compete. Keep it up (NT) -- Fan, 12:01:25 07/20/14 Sun LOL! Such delicious shade you've thrown; especially considering that Iceman is straight. The sun was blazing, but you brought the relaxing shade. Loved it! (NT) -- My Milkshake Brings, 12:35:14 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Is it just me or do they look like sisters? http://youtu.be/iS1g8G_njx8
Author: Marlene [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:42:05 07/20/14 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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LOL, If you're not reading my mind, I was referring to Nia. (NT) -- Marlene, 11:45:39 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: OMG, Seriously bitches?
Author: wtf [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:10:47 07/20/14 Sun I am so fucking tired of helping people on this board. I would rather scrub the warts off a witch then continue this BALDERDASH. Why? Why am I always the one who has to set the facts straight. I wish you people who grow up and give these people mature advice instead of acting like a high school click giggling and goofing off. I have decided I this shit needs to end. I am tired of helping you people. In the future, other posters will have to do it. I AM DONE! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Bye Felicia. (NT) -- Andrew-TX, 08:33:22 07/20/14 Sun Bye! (NT) -- djm, 08:44:38 07/20/14 Sun It's a message board....it is not that serious. (NT) -- T, 08:52:25 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Double message, sorry!
Author: HawtPlusSeksi [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:21:21 07/20/14 Sun Last edited by author: Sun July 20, 2014 03:22:28 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Mock Miss Teen USA 2014 judge registration deadline is July 20, 2014 .
Author: USBMockSquad [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:09:22 07/06/14 Sun Loading... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Whoo-hoo! Sign me up! (NT) -- SanFranGuy, 19:29:49 07/06/14 Sun I am in as always (NT) -- Vech, 23:47:38 07/06/14 Sun All mock judges who registered today Sunday, July 6, 2014, prior to 11:00 PM CT, your judge confirmation emails have been sent. If you did not get one, please email Onixana @ mockteenusa@gmail.com or just respond to this thread. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:07:04 07/07/14 Mon To those who registered today, Monday, July 7, 2014 prior to 1130PM CT, email confirmations were sent. Thank you. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:41:48 07/08/14 Tue All judges who have registered, email confirmations have been sent. Thank you. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:30:42 07/15/14 Tue I registered and I have not received my email confirmation (NT) -- Jaime, 01:43:24 07/15/14 Tue Hello Jaime. I sent your email confirmation on July 7 2014 at 1120pm ct. Check your spam folder as I had one other judge informed me that it was sent to his spam folder. I (NT) -- Onixana, 21:38:47 07/15/14 Tue i might have erased by accident, can you send it to me again please, thank you kindly (NT) -- Jaime, 03:00:13 07/16/14 Wed Sent. Thanks. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:22:38 07/17/14 Thu thank you, I got it (NT) -- Jaime, 06:28:37 07/17/14 Thu Hola! I also reg'd ystrd. (NT) -- eloise, 14:42:02 07/16/14 Wed Eloise, I did not receive your registration unless you used a different handle. Email me @ mockteenusa.com or use above registration form. Thanks, Onixana. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:25:16 07/17/14 Thu i used the same name on the thing above. Anyway, sent you an email. xo (NT) -- eloise, 21:09:48 07/17/14 Thu You are registered (NT) -- Onixana, 03:23:15 07/18/14 Fri To all judges who registered, confirmed mock judges should have received their registration email. Respond to this thread if you have not receive yours or email Onixana @ mockteenusa@gmail.com. Thanks. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 00:28:07 07/17/14 Thu Did you receive mine? Not sure I received a confirmation email... (NT) -- Qban, 22:33:24 07/17/14 Thu Your confirmation was sent July 14. You are registered. (NT) -- Onixana, 03:26:51 07/18/14 Fri Deadline is tomorrow Sunday at noon CT (NT) -- Onixana, 20:23:47 07/19/14 Sat Please sign me up! Thank you! (NT) -- Groove, 23:55:30 07/19/14 Sat you are registered. Your confirmation email was sent to the email you used last year that starts with jk.... let me know if there are any issues. (NT) -- USBMockSquad, 01:17:08 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Paula Shugart's statement to ABC
Author: SweetDarling [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:35:45 06/16/14 Mon STATEMENT FROM THE MISS UNIVERSE ORGANIZATION Nia Sanchez was issued a Nevada driver’s license in January of 2013, a full year before she competed at the Miss Nevada USA pageant. The Miss Universe Organization has no reason to question her residency and we are thrilled to welcome her to the organization and look forward to working with her in the coming year. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Just to clarify, this was an official statement made by ABC. (NT) -- SweetDarling, 22:41:29 06/16/14 Mon Unfortunately, this won't be case closed for some people. (NT) -- JennNYC, 22:43:54 06/16/14 Mon Agreed. Unfortunately there are really two sides to this ... there's the black/white case of whether Nia met the residency rules which is a yes. Then there's the ethical issues surrounding the rule itself which if you ask me is another case entirely and is a lot more in the grey zone and relates to many competitors, not just Nia, and really has nothing to do with the girls themselves but whether the rule is strict enough or whether there should be changes made to make it more clear cut. Different issue entirely and it's unfortunate Nia's win got sucked into the vortex of that discussion. (NT) -- oz-usb, 23:04:18 06/16/14 Mon Jeepers this was poorly written. My brain feels slightly scrambled. Hoping you can somewhat understand where I'm coming from! haha. Basically Issue 1: Whether Nia met residency rules = YES Issue 2 Whether the residency rule is framed correctly = QUESTIONABLE (NT) -- oz-usb, 23:08:52 06/16/14 Mon I totally get it :) Really, you hit the nail on the head. People shouldn't be upset at Nia. They should be upset with the rules if they don't like the 6 month residency requirement. Personally, I don't think that's unreasonable. But Nia didn't break the rules. She won fair and square. I agree it's sad that Nia's win is getting dragged into it. But hey, there's always something people find to whine about after the pageant, so this isn't surprising. (NT) -- JennNYC, 23:52:18 06/16/14 Mon It's MUO's pageant system, and MUO gets to set the residency requirements. They're satisfied that Nia met those requirements, so case closed. It's obvious to me that MUO doesn't want stringent state residency requirements. They seem to want to maintain some traditional sense of state representation while also making it fairly easy for new girls in a state to compete. We have to remember that their goal is to have the most beautiful and personable woman become Miss USA and not to have the most legitimate representation of all 50 states and the District of Columbia possible. LAWWWWD, some people actin' like these girls is runnin' for U.S. Congressional seats or sumthin'. They ain't. They're runnin' for a freakin' crown and sash. (NT) -- BamaMan, 06:30:27 06/17/14 Tue 2 other long threads on this issue were removed due to thread size. (NT) -- Qban, 10:27:45 06/17/14 Tue Rima defends Paula against state jumping -- happyboy4u, 23:52:04 06/17/14 Tue Don't you need like 3 or 4 proofs of residency ? She has 1 (NT) -- It is what it is...she doesn't need to lie bout it tho, 03:12:36 06/18/14 Wed . (NT) -- JennNYC, 03:32:31 06/18/14 Wed MUO only announced one form of residency, I am sure there are multiple forms of residency... car registration, bills, magazine subscriptions, license, etc. I don't get what she is "lying" about... She has extended family in Nevada and even lived there in a shelter for some time... She got her license in Nevada in 2012... How much more proof do people need? Why is Nia being picked on when this has been going on since forever? (NT) -- SweetDarling, 11:03:40 06/18/14 Wed Rima defending Nia? Now that I I have to see. She couldn't defend herself when she was MISS USA LOL (NT) -- TexasQueen, 06:40:40 06/18/14 Wed This is MUO's idea of helping? Really? WTF????!!! Miss USA 2010 says lay off Nia Sanchez, carpetbagging issues are Shanna Moakler’s fault http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/06/18/miss-usa-2010-says-lay-off-nia-sanchez-carpetbagging-issues-are-shanna-moaklers/ (NT) -- TexasQueen, 10:46:23 06/18/14 Wed TexasQueen, I feel so sorry for you. You are such a victim of this board. Please too not apologize, we all know how it goes. One moment you just need to express something and the next the quality of it just stigmatizes your ego. I suggest you have an individual session with Shanna so you can cry, scream, and throw up if you need too. Honey, please absorb your thoughts well. You may not become the most memorable poster, but at least you have your choices and dignity. I do not blame you, it is not your fault. I blame this board for manipulating everyone as to what is the supposedly "correct" way of expressing. (NT) -- CC, 01:05:58 07/20/14 Sun

Subject: Please help me.
Author: Garlica [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:28:57 07/19/14 Sat So which fag on this board would like to molest and kill my son? I vote Travis Stanton since he lives in Minnesota, but I don't mind travelers. Just make sure you are very private about it. I do not want to know who actually does it, but I FUCKING WANT IT DONE! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Team USA is complete!
Author: HCF [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:19:23 07/13/14 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I see all of them making semi-finals in their respective pageants except for World... I hope she has a killer talent, has an amazing Beauty with a purpose project, or superb athleticism. (NT) -- HCF, 21:21:35 07/13/14 Sun If I know Julia Morley well, Elizabeth will definitely be a top 6 at Miss World, and even get the award Queen of Americas... Mrs. Morley loves to show her appreciation for countries that do things the way she expects. (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 21:43:51 07/13/14 Sun I also think so. Personally I do not think she'd deserve to be in the top 15, at least at first glance comparing to other delegates. But because Miss United States will likely become a money maker, they will likely put her in. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:04:40 07/14/14 Mon I am sorry, but I don't think a multi divisional pageant should be the host of the USA representative for Miss World it just cheapens it especially when the selection process is shady at miss US there are already people claiming that they enter for free while others have to pay (NT) -- ., 19:47:15 07/14/14 Mon This is exactly right! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 03:30:00 07/15/14 Tue The caliber of each of these pageant systems is so different from each other....makes it really really strange to see these girls lined up. apples and oranges. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 22:26:29 07/13/14 Sun Having the Miss United States Pageant feeding into Miss World really changes the game though. I would expect to see more heavy hitters in the system now. I'm psyched!! (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 08:56:23 07/14/14 Mon Oh she did that! I am GLAD! Even if she may never win CO USA. I think she is 24 now so she will have one year left (or two at max). (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:01:18 07/14/14 Mon Is Andrea the first to win 2 national titles in different systems? (NT) -- ureka smoke, 13:24:26 07/14/14 Mon She's the first to win two national U.S. titles for major international pageants! Excited for her. Also, I do believe this is the FIRST time we've actually had PAGEANTS that select the U.S. rep for all the grandslam major pageants! Hope it continues! (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 16:06:56 07/14/14 Mon Tiki, I saw Andrea Neu complete in Tokyo in Dec at Miss Int and she represented the US well. No doubt that experience will propel her into a more focused state while prepping for another Grand Slam. Her family were very supportive and kind people. It was such a pleasure to meet Andrea and I am so pleased for her recent win. Two US Grand Slam titles! Exciting. (NT) -- Snowflake, 22:00:18 07/14/14 Mon Sorry but what is Andrea's parantage? She looks Asian-ish in picture but the pic of her with her parents post crowning indicates otherwise (NT) -- Banalities, 18:22:27 07/14/14 Mon She clearly has some Native American origin and the last name is German. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 02:20:04 07/15/14 Tue I like USA and Earth - I am not so much into the other two. (NT) -- djm (not signed in), 02:28:14 07/15/14 Tue Miss International and Universe are beautiful. (NT) -- mack_P (NSI), 08:54:08 07/15/14 Tue I wish each of this year’s delegates much success at their respective programs. Equally important is that we don’t forget about them when their pageant rolls around. It is very easy to forget the International, Supranational and Earth pageants because all of these programs, along with Universe and World, not to mention the many state USA titles all happen in the last quarter of the year. It can be difficult to keep track when they are all bunched together, sometimes just a week apart. Hence, why I wish Miss USA and Universe were conducted in the first five months of the year. (NT) -- MLB, 12:59:16 07/15/14 Tue Could someone please explain the differences between International, world, and earth for me? Where is the US candidate pulled from for each of these? (NT) -- Thank you!, 15:11:34 07/15/14 Tue Also what about the OTHER Miss International? And then Inter/Supra National? (NT) -- So much to keep track of!, 16:50:52 07/15/14 Tue There is Miss US International where the winner is sent to represent the US at Miss International (the actual international pageant...there's another miss international that's only in America). At Miss US International the person who places second is crowned Miss US Supranational and represent the US at the Miss Supranational pageant. This is the first year that they have done this. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 13:20:00 07/16/14 Wed Andrea also becomes the first American woman to compete in more than one Grand Slam pageant, I checked it yesterday just in case but no woman that competed in Miss World also competed at Miss International, etc... Andrea will be the first one at two Grand Slam pageants. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 15:33:03 07/16/14 Wed team USA is complete -- pageant fancy, 11:51:28 07/17/14 Thu Team USA is complete -- pageant fancy, 12:16:28 07/17/14 Thu That's not true. Karen Brucene Smith competed in Miss World 1971 and won Miss International in 1974. (NT) -- pageant fancy, 13:54:20 07/17/14 Thu But the question is, did she WIN a Miss World-USA and Miss International-USA (Or America Beauty) pageant? I'm not sure how she qualified for either. There have been a few Americans that competed at more than one international pageant, but did they win their title to compete (As Andrea has just done) or was it through an appointment? (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 04:29:34 07/18/14 Fri According to this interview (http://archive.today/T4kNL), she won Miss World USA but was appointed to compete at Miss International. (NT) -- puff, 12:58:31 07/18/14 Fri Wow, that's an interesting article! Thanks. So, I guess Andrea's record still holds as the only woman to WIN 2 U.S. national pageants to any grandslam pageants thus far. Unless we can find others. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:53:43 07/18/14 Fri Yes, Andrea is the first one who won two GS national pageants, although the OP is right about the lady from the 70s, I missed her when I was doing World/Intl comparison lists, she was the only American woman before Andrea to compete in two Grand Slam pageants. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 01:32:39 07/19/14 Sat HCF, why do you deliberately exclude Miss SUpranational USA and Miss GRAND USA from TEAM USA?!!? (NT) -- Of the 5 beautiful reps, Miss SUPRANATIONAL USA has the best chance of winning an international crown for the good ol'USA!, 10:36:22 07/19/14 Sat Because neither pageants are really "Grand Slam" but all the best to Allyn though!! She's gonna kick some butt in Poland! (NT) -- HCF, 10:59:26 07/19/14 Sat Supra is not, but it is quickly gaining in popularity, which is why I chose that franchise. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 16:30:53 07/19/14 Sat I reckon that both SUPRA and GRAND pageants will very soon surpass both the Miss INTERNATIONAL & Miss EARTH pageants in prestige, popularity & ranking sooner than you think! (NT) -- Dixie Dude, 19:42:23 07/19/14 Sat What about the "other" international that is just in the US? What is the deal with that system? (NT) -- --, 21:46:19 07/19/14 Sat

Subject: Front page of the Sunday Times
Author: Zero-Defect [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:54:11 07/08/14 Tue Are we looking at the new Miss Universe? This past weekend, Rolene Strauss attended the 117th Annual Durban July Handicap. This year's theme was 1920s-inspired This got me thinking, perhaps Miss Universe should have a "ball night" with different themes every year. I think it would be awesome to see the girls kitted out in their own interpretation of different themes, be it "Samba" or "African Goddess" or "Tropical Queen" or "Hollywood Glamour of the 1960s" or "Asian Infusions" depending obviously where the pageant is held... Whatcha think? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'v e been singing her praises since months before she was crowned, and this pic just solidifies all of my thoughts. WOW! This girl is stunning. By far my favorite to win Miss Universe at this point. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:24:22 07/08/14 Tue I felt the same way about Melinda. I was convinced she was the next Miss Universe when her name appeared as one of the contestants for Miss South Africa. I have learnt to now take a "chill pill" and not get overexcited as I always tend to jinx things. (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 04:03:03 07/09/14 Wed No!! You should get excited. Melinda was stunning, and this girl is just as good! Get very excited!!! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:03:55 07/09/14 Wed Nope. Way overhyped! This gurl is lovely and indeed I have many of my neighbors' daughters looking similar. :XD (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 10:28:24 07/08/14 Tue Damn! Where do you live?? (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:46:43 07/08/14 Tue Rolene, in the middle, could compete with this exact look and I would be thrilled to crown her as Miss Universe. Smashing! Melinda Bam looks great herself. But my goodness, Rolene is the real deal! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:56:08 07/08/14 Tue I hope Rolene has a chance to compete at Universe. It's my understanding as long as both Miss World and Uni. are 6 weeks apart, she can compete in both, otherwise I'd say she's a Miss World. Very pretty and she is great with all her social media stuff. Miss S.A. is a very friendly fan website. (NT) -- Smile Pretty, 00:57:35 07/09/14 Wed While I'm posting pics, I have a few more of Rolene I'd like to share... Not overhyping her, just spreading my love for her, which I think is valid. She is a definite top 5 in my opinion. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:57:07 07/08/14 Tue (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:59:07 07/08/14 Tue (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:59:59 07/08/14 Tue (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:00:40 07/08/14 Tue I think she is absolutely gorgeous and I would be elated if she won. (NT) -- MJ1978, 21:31:40 07/19/14 Sat South Africa may just have chosen their second Miss Universe. She's simply breathtaking. She's definitely my favorite right now. (NT) -- TRTW, 11:08:53 07/08/14 Tue I love her! Definitely up there! (NT) -- Athalia, 13:18:30 07/08/14 Tue Bam Bam who? This girl is perfection! Definitely the one to watch this year (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 13:50:33 07/08/14 Tue Rolene is often compared in my country to the ever stunning & elegant Margaret Gardiner - AFRICA's first Miss UNIVERSE winner in 1978 and the pride of ALL South Africans! (NT) -- Afrikaner fan, 17:35:36 07/08/14 Tue Oh my gosh. She is breathtaking. Pleaseeeee crown this girl. (NT) -- dixiedarling, 22:50:25 07/08/14 Tue Looks too much like our reigning Miss Universe from Venezuela. NEXT! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 02:32:40 07/09/14 Wed I forgot about the possibility that MW and MU can be held pretty much at the same time. In that case Rolene will likely go to World and Zipho to Universe. MU org does not care that much if a winner or a runner-up is sent as long as the franchising fees are payed, MW on the other hand only wants winners, so I think Rolene would be sent there and Zipho to MU. I actually prefer Zipho since her look and vibe is more MU suited, Rolene could fit in in BOTH pageants and score well. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 02:46:48 07/09/14 Wed According to Rolene's wikipedia page, the only way she can attend BOTH pageant is Miss Universe is held no later than 9 October. Because last year's Miss SA complained of exhaustion, the owners of Miss SA set a new rule that states they need a minimum break period of 6 weeks between the pageants to rest etc. The way I see it, there is NO WAY Miss Universe will be held in time. In that case, Rolene will get to decide which pageant she prefers. I am leaning towards Miss Universe. I still think Sun International should give up their franchise holding on Miss World and let another organisation choose a candidate. Miss World is BORING (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 03:59:45 07/09/14 Wed Really? I think Rolene is going to Miss World then :( Because doesn't Miss World only want winners? In that case, Rolene wouldn't get to pick which pageant she wants to do (NT) -- Athalia, 09:18:21 07/09/14 Wed Right now I think Rolene will run away with the Miss Universe crown, with Venezuela on her heels in search of a second back-to-back win for Osmel Land. Of course, we haven't seen too many photos of the beautiful Miss Venezuela, so who knows what she looks like by now. (NT) -- BamaMan, 08:07:40 07/09/14 Wed As much as i love Melinda Bam she was a stella delegate for my country, but she lacked the flawless physical beauty required for a Miss Universe titleholder, she had the glamour and sex appeal thou Rolene has it all beauty, brains and she will have a killer body come Miss Universe, i think its her crown to loose at the moment what i also noticed was prior to Rolene's crowning Osmel changed Migbelis look and she was sporting a darker brunette mane and her look has now been changed to blonde again, Migbellis was my favourite to win before Rolene's crowning MUO will be silly to let this godess and intelligent woman slip through their fingers she has it all and would be an asset to their organization she certainly has been amazing as Miss South Africa (NT) -- Pageantbitch, 15:31:55 07/09/14 Wed Ja, it would be great to see Rolene as the worthy flatmate of Nia & Cassidy. (NT) -- Pretoria boer, 16:36:39 07/09/14 Wed Please visit Rolene's official website by CLICKING here! -- Afrikaner fan, 20:21:06 07/19/14 Sat

Subject: Mr. World 2014 is .... Denmark!
Author: * [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:24:30 06/16/14 Mon 1st RU Nigeria 2nd RU Mexico http://youtu.be/3XqNDEGotUk [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Hahaha, this competition is like something from a gay nightclub. See the opening here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H-T43Bt4b8 And Rafa Delfin was UNABLE to send in a US representative again, I bet that Ivan guy from 2008 is still Mr USA. :D (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 02:44:21 06/16/14 Mon Nope, about Mr World. You can see the opening here: (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 04:04:00 06/16/14 Mon Well, although the guys are certainly hot, I don't think it's like a gay nighclub at all because two-thirds of these guys have no rhythm. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 04:17:25 06/16/14 Mon LOL. Good point. I felt like I was watching a bunch of excited elementary school kids doing a stage show (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 15:29:02 06/16/14 Mon Well one of the contestants is a North Carolina native who was in the US military for 5 years and was stationed in Iraq. (NT) -- So one could say there's American presence., 08:16:43 06/16/14 Mon It's a shame he did not make the Top 10 as he was definitely good looking. Unless of course he did not care about it as much and figured he'd purposely sabotage his chances. (NT) -- Just wondering, 10:57:31 06/16/14 Mon he is very gay. every time he open his mouth nothing but passive words came out!..I bet he was another popular Filipino in the Barracks! He looks like a mean cocksucker! (NT) -- Suck it like the GAYSASIA you are!, 16:33:57 06/27/14 Fri luv this thread (NT) -- popular front page topic, 20:34:46 07/10/14 Thu You don't know absolutely anything. Stop assuming about me. (NT) -- Rafa Delfin, 13:46:20 06/18/14 Wed I know the USA is NOT represented yet again! Isn't that obvious! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 21:44:32 06/19/14 Thu And what makes you assume I still have the U.S. franchise? I gave it up in 2010. Did you know that MWO begged me to send a US rep this year a month before the pageant because the current franchisee failed to send their rep? I said no to MWO because they're disorganized and unprofessional. (NT) -- Rafa Delfin, 14:03:12 06/20/14 Fri Ok, thanks for explaining. Indeed, the organization (based on what we know) does not look that professional. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 20:41:34 06/20/14 Fri Oh my ... Mad props to the guys who walked up to their mark like humans instead of ambling up like hopped up club kids with disco fever. This pageant needs an overhaul. (NT) -- MoNkayMaN, 12:32:17 06/16/14 Mon I absolutely agree with that. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 15:14:12 06/16/14 Mon I wouldn't watch more than 2 minutes of the horrid introductions. They're all jumping like monkeys and high-fiving each other. I think Lu Sierra needs to intervene, or at least get them sedated. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 15:16:19 06/16/14 Mon I would love to see Lu's influence on this event. Make them look a little more masculine and not quite so rave-ish. ha... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:29:05 06/16/14 Mon I could watch this gif over and over again for hours. It's hilarious (NT) -- K, 06:09:37 06/19/14 Thu i love how happy they are. (NT) -- eloise, 16:59:08 06/16/14 Mon #cringeworthy (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 19:32:56 06/16/14 Mon This causes me physical pain :P (NT) -- oz-usb, 09:07:55 06/17/14 Tue LOL!!! This is like a really bad audition for something like Thunder From Down Under...oof (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 16:21:07 06/17/14 Tue He's like a Korean Peter Pan! (NT) -- cute, but not sexy. at least not here., 16:44:48 06/20/14 Fri lmao I forgot abt this. It's cute but it's just so no don't do that! (NT) -- eloise, 18:13:46 06/20/14 Fri Very cute... KOREA scores points with me if I was judging. ;-) (NT) -- and i'm in NEVADA, 20:33:33 06/20/14 Fri Behaving the way I see most of the people on this board behaving in public. (NT) -- ., 09:25:01 06/27/14 Fri Gosh, I would love to own the waxing concession at this pageant. Where on earth is the body hair?? To me, a man without a trace of hair on his chest, legs, etc., seems as bizarre as a Miss USA contestant with hair in those places. -- Doot, 19:21:17 06/16/14 Mon Where is Scott Grossman when you need him? This was utterly embarrassing - I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Actually, I was laughing so hard and so much that I ended up crying. Although I have not seen the entire program, it felt as if the organizers hastily put together this program and told the guys to make up the choreography as you go along. I know the program is not poor that you couldn’t provide white or black tees for the opening. (NT) -- MLB, 20:09:46 06/16/14 Mon This whole Mr World opening made me think of Miss Teen USA 2007 where the girls were gyrating like animals in what it seemed like a LAST MINUTE put on production. ;) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 08:55:19 06/17/14 Tue FORGET Scott, he's not only a flaming queen but a damn racist, too! (NT) -- Nubian sistah, 03:38:38 06/21/14 Sat It looked like Venezuela's plastic surgery obsession doesn't stop with the women! (NT) -- HiJake, 20:20:52 06/16/14 Mon Who are the plastic ones? (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 17:18:46 06/17/14 Tue From the video, Venezuela's nose looked kinda funky, but I think that was just horrible makeup. Lol. (NT) -- HiJake, 18:07:09 06/20/14 Fri And it appears that the Phillippines obsession with beauty pageants isn't limited to female pageants (although their rep was super handsome). (NT) -- djm, 10:34:21 06/19/14 Thu From a previous post: this pageant needs an overhaul? How does this even exist? I felt embarrassed for almost EVERY SINGLE gay/straight man on here (perhaps except for Bahamas, Lebanon & Curacao; all of whom weren't too over-the-top). (NT) -- Groove, 21:04:48 06/17/14 Tue Although the opening is strange, it's actually quite a classy competition. And the winner is really a lovely guy. -- Tiki-Java, 15:08:10 06/18/14 Wed Why does Mr. Denmark sound Australian? Did he country hop? Will Rima Rakih go after his national director too? (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 17:23:22 06/18/14 Wed DROOL (NT) -- BreeZe, 17:25:14 06/18/14 Wed He was born in Denmark, but spent his formative years in Australia when his parents were relocated to Sydney for work. (NT) -- He and his mother returned to Denmark after his parents divorced while his father stayed on., 18:51:54 06/18/14 Wed He is lovely but I am not sure the facial beauty is there to win Mr World but he has a lovely personality and a great body. The 1st runner-up is also not that great and needs dental work. :D (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 20:51:35 06/18/14 Wed Absolutely agree! He'said definitely the least attractive of all the Mr WORLD winners to date. (NT) -- Rafa D., 02:43:48 06/19/14 Thu Sorry, but he is miles ahead of that goofball before him. He seems like a lovely gent, but classic photoshopped butterface. (NT) -- This kid's a cutie and watta bod!, 11:58:27 06/19/14 Thu LOL @ "We don't love each other but we're heading in that direction." (NT) -- lexis-PA, 10:41:36 06/19/14 Thu His interview skills are great, has a great body and looks ok, so I guess...it's ok (NT) -- Philly Fan, 18:59:30 06/30/14 Mon Let's get real here --- if these men were hopping around like this in your living room none of y'all queens would be complaining! (NT) -- Real talk, 10:14:08 06/19/14 Thu I do have men hopping around like this in my living room and let me tell you I've had to replace every piece of china and crystal in the house. -- Doot, 15:08:05 06/20/14 Fri Denmark has been the best mister world winner since Juan Garcia of Spain in 2006. His introduction video was one of the first ones uploaded to YT and when i saw it i knew he would make it far. He is very cute, fantastic body and seems very sweet and genuine. The last two mister world winners are complete WTFs. Denmark definitely deserved to win. -- Franny, 12:14:32 06/19/14 Thu Denmark was the smallest, he's too skinny and fragile looking. not to mention he was white as wonder bread. Nice guy but some of the other guys where more manly and muscular. Whatever this pageant sucks is a waste of time they don't know what they want. (NT) -- ballerina girl, 16:29:48 06/27/14 Fri What EXACTLY does a Mister World do?? I can't be the only one that thinks this is kind of ridiculous.. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 13:11:24 06/19/14 Thu LOL! That's funny. Though, in fairness, many people may wonder what does Miss World really do. (NT) -- Oatmeal, 19:15:25 06/19/14 Thu I mean that's fair too. Only I actually see Miss World at events. I never even knew a Mister World existed until someone so kindly posted this video. I mean I've never once seen an appearance from a Mister World. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 21:43:09 06/19/14 Thu So I just snooped around YouTube trying to figure out if I was truly interested in this pageant, or just amused by it all. I came to the conclusion that it was neither. It is so cheesy and weird I just can't wrap my head around it. Having said that - this is the first pageant I've seen in like FOREVER where I actually think the contestant from the Philippines was actually robbed. He is GORGEOUS - and WAY better looking than the guy who won.Regardless, I still think the opening introductions is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. I would be mortified to be on that stage. (NT) -- djm, 13:44:24 06/19/14 Thu For me - there was NOTHING hotter than a guy in his jeans and nothing else. Until -- watching those intros. I am forever scarred. Please, please help me forget. If they could have just stood there and waived, I would have been so happy. (NT) -- pageantrella, 01:39:59 06/20/14 Fri Hahahaha! (NT) -- :), 14:04:39 06/20/14 Fri Good thing my partner is a psychiatrist. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 15:25:49 06/20/14 Fri I may need a consult Silver -- haha (NT) -- pageantrella, 22:24:46 06/20/14 Fri My boyfriend is a competitive bodybuilder and he must wax his body & legs according to competition rules. I just love his smooth & slick muscular body as one can feel every definition of his physique. (NT) -- What I like about Mr WORLD is that the waxed hunks are allowed to keep their facial hair which makes them so suave & debonair. It's not allowed in bodybuilding competitions., 03:35:18 06/21/14 Sat This pageant is way too gay. My friends would never watch it (by the way... they are all girls). (NT) -- Cal, 12:02:24 06/21/14 Sat The winner reminds me of The Bachelor Juan Pablo (NT) -- Has Been, 12:10:34 06/21/14 Sat Several commenters have remarked this pageant is "too gay," but what would you do make it more "straight"? Have the guys sitting around in sweatshirts drinking beer and seeing who can belch the loudest? I'm partially joking but also partially serious. Is it possible to have a male pageant that does not seem "gay"? I mean, at some point you're gonna have these guys showing off their bodies, right? Does that make it "gay"? -- Doot, 13:35:00 06/21/14 Sat What gets me also, is that I wonder if the people saying it's "so gay" have actually SEEN a Mr. World contest...not just the opening contestant introduction? Yes, the past two contests have used this same campy introduction, but the REST OF THE COMPETITION is quite classy, elegant AND masculine...these guys participate is some very hardcore military training games as part of the contest. People make sweeping judgements based on alittle information and that's never a good thing. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:42:37 06/21/14 Sat No, no I've talked to some contestants. They said that there were a lot of gays delegates. They have also said that the production always want to capture them as sensitive, sexy and many times they want weird posed and girly ways. Women would never watch this crap. This was made to the gay community. (NT) -- Cal, 02:18:49 06/22/14 Sun Yes, there are a lot of gay delegates in male pageants, as exemple for Canada Darren Storsley who competed in both Manhunt Intl. and Mr. World was certainly out way before he competed. I wonder how he got along with delegates from more conservative countries? Also, our own sucker4sg also competed for Canada in a gland slam pageant (and I am almost 100% he was out at that time). There are also delegates who seem gay but are actually straight, Canada's Frankie Cena (and host of this year's MW) is straight even if most people perceive him to be gay. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 02:48:23 06/24/14 Tue I..umm...I just...no words. (NT) -- Secret Queen, 01:49:33 06/24/14 Tue Both Mr WORLD and MANHUNT contests showcse GAYs in positive spotlight with great media coverage & lucrative sponsorships from airlines as well as fabulous military & tourism support from host nations. From this year onwards Mr WORLD will be held annually. (NT) -- Very HAPPY & PROUD Gay pageant fan, 04:19:14 06/29/14 Sun ARE our Mr USB winners & the runners-up gay as well?!!? (NT) -- Secretly wishing they all are!, 12:32:41 06/30/14 Mon Not all of us are. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 15:03:57 06/30/14 Mon This bona fide international male pageant has been growing in stature & from strength to strength over the years and from this year on the competition will now be an annual event on our calendar. (NT) -- HAS next year's host been already decided?!!?, 00:39:52 07/07/14 Mon USBModStacey, how about sponsoring & sending Mr USB as the American candidate to Mr WORLD?...He should easily win the Social Media award every year and give male pageantry a whole new level of diversity of sorts. (NT) -- ARE my suggestion & idea farfetched?!!?, 10:46:05 07/07/14 Mon (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 13:30:53 07/07/14 Mon You must be 17-26 years old inclusive within the year. (Under 27 on Mr. World Finals). Have we ever sashed anyone under 27? (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 13:36:13 07/07/14 Mon Hahaha..the thought of any of us competing at Mr. World is pretty laughable! :) I'd have to carried out on stretcher 35 seconds into any of that military challenge. And my video? hah "They be some serious biatches up in here!" And, furthermore, I would not be gyrating down the runway! However, I would try to come up with some interesting evening wear..:) (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:17:26 07/07/14 Mon I refuse to give up wine to get abs. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 22:56:44 07/07/14 Mon Lol!! That made my day (NT) -- thanks for the giggle, 11:51:29 07/08/14 Tue Oh Tiki, your participation in Mr WORLD would have given the contest an extra buzz with your colorful & flamboyant wardrobe and designer label outfits! (NT) -- And no doubt you'd surely give Julia Morley & the stiff upper lipped English hosts some jaw-dropping moments!, 18:47:19 07/08/14 Tue It's already more than a month and this thread is still on the front page of this forum! WoW! WoW! Wow! (NT) -- Very very much a HOT, relevant & popular thread!, 20:12:54 07/19/14 Sat Most of the good looking guys were left standing. Top 2 are awful. (NT) -- How is this judged?, 21:03:14 07/19/14 Sat

Subject: Looks like 3 formers are involved in this project called Bound By Ad. http://www.actorsreporter.com/2014/actors-day-in-la/actors-day-in-la-bound-by-ad-a-new-kind-of-tv-series/?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_campaign=hootsuite
Author: Anon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:25:29 07/17/14 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I loooooove Myverick Garcia!!!! (NT) -- HiJake, 08:35:12 07/17/14 Thu 4 formers- Garcia, Courtney turner, Elle Evans/Lindsay Gale Evans, & (NT) -- Hilary Cruz, 20:21:01 07/19/14 Sat

Subject: Pageants in the NY Times!
Author: Doot [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:53:12 07/19/14 Sat This weekend's New York Times has an article about a pageant coach, Bill Alverson. He coached Miss Ohio in the last Miss USA pageant. Lots of interesting tidbits. www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/magazine/the-pageant-king-of-alabama.html [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Interview with Jordan Schultz now up!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:31:31 07/17/14 Thu This week's interview - by special request of more than one Pageant Update fan - is with Jordan Schultz, three time first runner-up in Tennessee & Texas! In her interview she explains the move to Texas - which was actually a move home - gives one of the best answers to "what would you wish for" I've ever read and describes her mindset going into the Miss Texas USA 2015 competition Good luck to Jordan - channel your inner Crystle Stewart and you could find yourself as Miss USA! http://pageantupdate.info/interviews/jordanschultz.htm Last edited by author: Fri July 18, 2014 19:15:20 Edited 2 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I really like Jordan! I hope she can pull off a win, but with Texas one never knows. Excited to see what happens! (NT) -- Athalia, 04:32:05 07/18/14 Fri This doesn't happen to me that often...completely enamored with a gown. Anyone know anything about the gown in top right picture--looks strapless, plunge, sheer bottom? I need to find a really amazing event and that dress. swoon Anyone want to take me to Met Gala? Please?!?!?! (NT) -- FlawLESS, 09:40:55 07/18/14 Fri* Wow, that gown Googled really easily. Nevermind! It is by Alexis Lantz, loaned to Miss OK USA 2014. http://www.thepageantguy.com/top-10-pageant-gowns-of-2013/ (NT) -- FlawLESS, 09:46:34 07/18/14 Fri I love her styling the year she was 1st runner up to Ali Nugent. I like the lighter hair on her and that dress is one of my favorites! I watched the pageant online that year and I saw that gown and thought WOW and with all the amazing gowns in Texas, it's hard to always pick one out of the crowd, but that was a complete standout. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 10:24:15 07/18/14 Fri I'm with you, FutureMiss. Love the hair that year. Regardless, this is one well dressed, nicely put together contestant. (NT) -- FlawLESS, 10:38:10 07/18/14 Fri Wow, I could not imagine being 1st runner up three times in a row. While that is an incredible accomplishment, I couldn't imagine how it would feel to be THISSSSSS close to going to Miss USA that many times. I hope for her sake that she wins TX this year. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:20:15 07/18/14 Fri I hope she wins instead of pulling a "Brie Gabrielle". (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 13:44:47 07/18/14 Fri Brie still has a year or two. I'd still put money on her making her way onto the Miss USA stage - she's quite the competitor. (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 11:10:08 07/19/14 Sat Oz, I'm not getting the interview link. Instead, I'm getting the update page. Where do I go from there? (NT) -- delilah, 17:38:04 07/18/14 Fri I also can't access the interview (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 19:06:53 07/18/14 Fri Oh dear someone should have said earlier! I've fixed it :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 19:16:24 07/18/14 Fri Unbelievable body and her gown selection (particularly the past 2 years) is spot on. JS was my selection last year but there's 5 or 6 latin girls that should be back and are soooo strong. This will be interesting! (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 19:33:18 07/18/14 Fri She will be Miss USA, she'll win at the right time like Crystle did (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 21:30:10 07/18/14 Fri Very good interview. She's very articulate with a great sense of humor. (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 02:05:42 07/19/14 Sat What a sweetheart. She deserves to win Miss Texas this year although I wouldn't mind if both Alexandra Ahmadi? and the 4th RU from last year Alexandra ? won. They're all beautiful, tall and smart. Good luck to all Texas ladies. Hope they get it right in Texas unlike Florida. (NT) -- JJ, 11:22:13 07/19/14 Sat

Subject: Panama 2014
Author: anni [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:27:03 06/13/14 Fri Yomatzy Hazlewood (22 yrs) from Panama City has just been crowned Miss Panama Universe 2014. Yomatzy will now represent Panama at Miss Universe 2014. I think she's absolutely stunning and definitely one of my favorites so far. Methinks she's the best from Panama since Carolina Dementiev who was inexplicably left clapping in 2008. Hopefully Yomatzy will make the cut this year. Best of luck to Panama! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She is beautiful and is giving me a Leila Lopes vibe, at least to me. I think she is going to do well at Miss Universe this year in my opinion. (NT) -- facts-therealone, 13:54:46 06/13/14 Fri I don't love that dress, but she's beautiful, especially in profile. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 14:20:36 06/13/14 Fri Not feeling her here... But I do see potential. Pretty girl. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 14:23:59 06/13/14 Fri I like her and I see potential. Just tone down the makeup to soften her face. Central America has two good reps with Panama and El Salvador (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 18:12:33 06/13/14 Fri I do not like her nearly as much as the runner -up. Oh well... (NT) -- me3, 18:55:40 06/13/14 Fri The runner-up is absolutely gorgeous. At least she is going to Miss World. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 19:48:55 06/13/14 Fri Where can we see a pic of the 1st runner up? Was looking for photos or video but couldn't find anythinh (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 20:11:26 06/13/14 Fri Very Pretty. (NT) -- WilliamNYC, 21:15:20 06/13/14 Fri Indeed, Panama, Gabon & France - the 3 ladies of color who will rock Miss UNIVERSE 2014! (NT) -- Danish fan, 20:58:13 06/14/14 Sat If my memory is correct, Yomatzy Hazlewood is the 2nd Black Miss Panama Universe. The 1st Black Miss Panama Universe I recall was Gloria Karamanites in 1980, who placed in the top 12 at MU that year, becoming the 1st Black delegate from Latin America to place at MU. (NT) -- I know Belize 1979 placed in the top 12 but despite being in Central America, Belize is not really considered part of Latin America as they were a British colony and English is the official language., 00:15:26 06/15/14 Sun Tanisha Drummond, their rep in 1998 is also black. (NT) -- ., 00:20:59 06/15/14 Sun I don't really care for her, but she has potential. (NT) -- JennNYC, 00:17:50 06/15/14 Sun Black is BEAUTIFUL! (NT) -- She's in my TOP-10 list, 23:40:07 07/06/14 Sun With a distinct Anglo surname like Hazelwood, I wonder if her father was an American GI who was stationed in Panama.??? (NT) -- One also wonders if Miss Yomatzy speaks English and if she pronounces her surname the Spanish way i.e. ....Aaaselwould (the H is silent in Spanish), 16:35:07 07/08/14 Tue By far the BEST Black beauty for Miss UNIVERSO 2014! (NT) -- Amigo Latino, 10:54:07 07/19/14 Sat

Subject: Nia's homecoming!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:08:34 07/17/14 Thu More photos of Nia's homecoming on my FB page... click here :) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I have a question for everyone. I know everyone gave Erin Brady a hard time for her styling last year, how are we feeling about Nia? So far, I love her outfits. When she's not al glammed up she looks a bit young, but I still love her none the less. Just curious what everyone thinks! (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 00:16:05 07/18/14 Fri with all due respect, I dont like Nia, in my humble opinion, I will always be TEAM AUDRA, but to each their own (NT) -- Jaime, 03:25:36 07/18/14 Fri Are we going to have to hear about Audra for the rest of the year (and beyond)? (NT) -- Phyllis Darnell, 16:48:08 07/18/14 Fri I don't see why not. Many here still want Morgan as Miss USA over Rima, four years later. (NT) -- Not Signed In., 18:27:46 07/18/14 Fri Audra's more beautiful, imo and Nia did cheat by going to compete in NV and she took the NV title from a bon fide NV girl. So Audra is the real Miss USA 2014. No disrespect to Nia though but I think she could've won CA USA on her own merit and think she's much more beautiful than this year's Miss CA USA. (NT) -- Walter, 22:16:23 07/18/14 Fri ^ LOL I can't. (NT) -- Phyllis Darnell, 00:47:50 07/19/14 Sat She really looks like a Miss TEEN USA...so fresh looking (NT) -- Pete of PDB, 03:38:34 07/18/14 Fri They are all looking alike to me. She young and pretty looking and seems sweet. (NT) -- Yep, 06:36:55 07/18/14 Fri Like I said before, she's cute, pretty and very wholesome. There's not an ounce of sex on a stick on her. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 08:43:39 07/18/14 Fri Other than the hideous flag dress, I think she looks fine, but it is a bit boring. My issue with Erin a lot of the time had less to do with clothing and more to do with hair & makeup - in that area Nia is doing good. (NT) -- djm, 08:48:28 07/18/14 Fri I think she's adorable and there's a wholesome sensuality about her, especially when she won NV in that red gown. But the hairstyle is starting to get old for me. I'd also like to see some highlights in her hair to warm it up. (NT) -- delilah, 15:04:21 07/18/14 Fri I think a Miss USA should be fresh faced and cute in candids like this...hospitals etc… natural beauty showcased and be sex on a stick in glam shots which I have proven Nia can clearly do….she obviously is a force on stage as well… (NT) -- Sxoxo, 15:32:12 07/18/14 Fri I agree. I don't want or expect Miss USA to always be va-va-voomy. Leave that to Miss Universe. (Just kidding... I don't want her to always be a sexpot either.) -- Doot, 21:04:55 07/18/14 Fri So pretty...this girl has GREAT hair btw (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 19:26:13 07/18/14 Fri sigh. simple and sweet. we have definitely have a "cute" Miss USA. no threat and nothing fierce. yayyyy. (NT) -- Not Signed In., 22:04:35 07/18/14 Fri Very much like Olivia ... and look what happened there :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 23:51:05 07/18/14 Fri

Subject: Miss USA All Stars Contest
Author: Ashthon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:44:40 07/18/14 Fri It has been 10 days since the last post was posted. Anyone know what happened to Zero Defect and why the contest is no longer being played? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Teen Time: MONTANA
Author: eloise [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:08:31 07/12/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Click in for more: -- eloise, 19:12:38 07/12/14 Sat Not good Be a teen -- Judge Wanda, 13:04:06 07/14/14 Mon I have to agree; these photos are too risque to me for a Teen contestant. With that said, she's a VERY pretty girl and I hope she competes for Miss one day. Montana could have their first placement in decades with this girl. (NT) -- Groove, 19:14:13 07/14/14 Mon These are for her modeling portfolio, as she has big plans after USA. Would you still think of these as too risqué if she wasnt as well endowed? Sometimes I think that's a problem with the teens. (NT) -- 123, 18:39:02 07/15/14 Tue Thank you fr posting these E, I wish we all were more interested in teen. They are so cute! I love this girl. (NT) -- 123, 07:58:23 07/14/14 Mon I agree. They are so adorable! (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 08:42:35 07/14/14 Mon ♥ (NT) -- eloise, 21:02:31 07/17/14 Thu I agree she's womanly but at least it doesn't look put-on. She's naturally voluptuous which makes her almost accidentally sexy versus trying to be sexy. imo obv. (NT) -- eloise, 22:13:25 07/15/14 Tue I agree that, unfortunately, larger lollies make a teen look older. However, I think Madison is beautiful and have my fingers and toes crossed for her at Miss Teen USA!!! (Happy Birthday, Madison!) (NT) -- RockyGirl, 20:12:55 07/17/14 Thu Do you know her RG? (NT) -- ., 18:55:59 07/18/14 Fri

Subject: All the Miss Universe Latinas in the top 15/16: 2003 - 2013
Author: eloise [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:46:28 07/15/14 Tue Not in the mood? Here are some otters banging on a keyboard. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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oopsie. 2000 - 2013 (NT) -- eloise, 21:47:37 07/15/14 Tue One my favorites in all this is Nicaragua 2007, Xiomara Blandino. She was a surprise to me that night, but I'm happy she made the Top 10. She had a great vibe about her. -- Doot, 15:17:41 07/16/14 Wed I love her too. She was so thrilled to be called. I also love the Paraguayan stunners. And Ecuador last year stole my ♥. (NT) -- eloise, 18:06:21 07/16/14 Wed Europeans edge them out slightly, in terms of semi-finalists, but it's the Latinas who can go the distance. (NT) -- HiJake, 18:35:14 07/16/14 Wed that was fun! those latinas always bring it! cant wait to see how this year plays out!! (NT) -- Texas Freak, 19:02:12 07/16/14 Wed mu latinas -- Tim, 19:50:01 07/16/14 Wed No one beats Ly Jonaitis in my book. It's between her Yanina Gonzalez in the top 2. (NT) -- NYpageantfan, 21:27:25 07/16/14 Wed I agree! Their back to back should have been LY(07) and Dayana(08)…. 2009 was Ada's crown (DR) (NT) -- :), 17:09:31 07/17/14 Thu This compilation reminds me how overscored Puerto Ricans are at MUO. Don't know why. And that otter plays like the entertainer at a bar mitzvah I once attended. (NT) -- ..,., 10:06:05 07/17/14 Thu I love otters. I fantasize about having one. That little guy in the vid needs a baby grand. He's all I'm music! (NT) -- eloise, 21:12:47 07/17/14 Thu Does it also remind you how many contestants from Venezuela who are totally undeserving of even placing on the top 50 end up with a crown on their heads? And read before posting, as you seem to be generalizing to "Puerto Ricans" and not to the contestants themselves. It's not called overscored, it's called "they come prepared with great bodies and awesome gown and stage presence". Thank You (NT) -- The same old BS, 09:23:16 07/18/14 Fri I love this. Thanks eloise! A few points of interest... 1) My two favorites in this compilation are Amelia Vega (2003) and Dayana Mendoza (2007). 2) I still love the Christmas theme from 2012. 3) Jeannie Mai has to go. 4) Dominican Republic should have beat Venezuela in 2009, although I like Stefania today... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:28:22 07/17/14 Thu Your wish to number 3 is about to come true. Jeannie is one of the 5 women co-hosts of “The Real” a new talk show which is set to premiere Sept. 15. Following the same format as the “The View” and “The Talk” the show will feature 5 women (who really do not have name recognition) doing their shtick on air. Needless to say, Jeannie will be preoccupied with her new show and will probably not be providing commentary to future pageants. Although I personally like Jeannie and her commentary, sadly, I do not foresee this show going beyond its first season. If her show is cancelled, we might once again see her next year. LOL (NT) -- MLB, 13:59:35 07/18/14 Fri When one closely analyzes this video and the statistics since 2000, the real dominant Latin countries (who have placed a minimum 6 times) are really Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Brazil and Colombia. All of the other Latin countries have had sporadic success in the past 14 contests and a few - El Salvador, Honduras and Uruguay are still awaiting for its country to be called. I would appreciate more consistent participation from some countries and perhaps more success from lesser known pageant countries, including Argentina and Chile, who have each made it once, but didn’t get past the first round of competition. (NT) -- MLB, 17:17:38 07/17/14 Thu On a side note, CHILE placed 5 times from 85 to 90 with one Miss Universe. Loved Ecaudor's placement last year!!!!!!!! (NT) -- chexmex, 19:42:04 07/17/14 Thu Some notes: I love most of them so I'll just list the ones who didn't click with me. Rosalva Luna, Rosa Maria Ojeda, Maria Matos, Cynthia Oliveria. Liked all of the VZ girls. Love the Paraguays. Ecuador 13 was amzg. My true sweethearts from this comp are Mariana Vicente and Gabriela Markus. I just super love those two so much. (NT) -- eloise, 21:25:32 07/17/14 Thu Love to see here stunning Gislaine (Brazil 2003), and Claudia Moreno and Ly Jonaitis, my favorite Venezuelan queens! At the same time. it is so sad that two Venezuelan girls are no longer among us... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 21:44:11 07/17/14 Thu

Subject: Dim the lights, cue the music... MISS USA: All Stars >>> THE TOP 15
Author: Zero-Defect [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:42:34 07/07/14 Mon Ladies and gentlemen... After strenuous number crunching, the time has come to announce YOUR results. Five groups of four ladies and after this, 20 become 15!!! ( GROUP ONE RESULTS Come on down, Lauren Lundeen, Olivia Culpo, Stacie Juris and Brittany Booker! ** Olivia Culpo and Brittany Booker- SAFE!!! (Top Dogs) The bottom two contestants are: Lauren Lundeen and Stacie Juris. LAUREN LUNDEEN- ELIMINATED!! ** STACIE JURIS- UNDERDOG- Advances! GROUP TWO RESULTS In group 2 we have: Brittany Oldehoff, Erin Brady, Brittany Guidry and Kristen Danyal. ** Erin Brady and Brittany Guidry- SAFE!!! (Top Dogs) The bottom two contestants are: Brittany Oldehoff and Kristen Danyal. KRISTEN DANYAL- ELIMINATED!! ** Brittany Oldehoff- UNDERDOG- Advances! GROUP THREE RESULTS Will Taylor Burton, Marissa Powell, Nia Sanchez and Haley O'Brien please step forward... ** Nia Sanchez and Marissa Powell- SAFE!!! (Top Dogs) The bottom two contestants are: Taylor Burton and Haley O'Brien TAYLOR BURTON- ELIMINATED!! ** HALEY O'BRIEN- UNDERDOG- Advances! GROUP FOUR RESULTS It's time for group four with... Chelsea Welch, Jade Kelsall, Angelia Layton and Audra Mari... We can now reveal that... ** Jade Kelsall and Audra Mari- SAFE!!! (Top Dogs) The bottom two contestants are: Chelsea Welch and Angelia Layton CHELSEA WELCH- ELIMINATED!! ** ANGELIA LAYTON- UNDERDOG- Advances! GROUP FIVE RESULTS Would our final group of girls please step forward... Tiana Griggs, Cassandra Kunze, Mary Margaret McCord and Jazz Wilkins. ** Jazz Wilkins and Mary Margaret McCord- SAFE!!! (Top Dogs) The bottom two contestants are: Tiana Griggs and Cassandra Kunze... TIANA GRIGGS- ELIMINATED!! ** CASANDRA KUNZE- UNDERDOG- Advances! YOUR TOP 15: HIGHER RANKING GIRLS: 1. Olivia Culpo, Rhode Island 2. Brittany Booker, Texas 3. Erin Brady, Connecticut 4. Brittany Guidry, Louisiana 5. Nia Sanchez, Nevada 6. Marissa Powell, Utah 7. Audra Mari, North Dakota 8. Jade Kelsall, Nevada 2 9. Mary Margaret McCord, Alabama 10. Jazz Wilkins, Georgia UNDERDOGS: 11. Stacie Juris, Illinois 12. Brittany Oldehoff, Florida 13. Haley O'Brien, Minnesota 14. Angelia Layton, Utah 2 15. Cassandra Kunze, California Voting resumes tomorrow as each of the underdog contestants take on two of the higher ranking girls in order to survive the Top 10 cut. Stay tuned, and as always, thanks for voting :-) Coming up: Signing out Zero Defect Last edited by author:** Tue July 08, 2014 04:59:32 Edited 2 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Click in to see the percentages of the results obtained during the Top 20 voting round... -- Zero-Defect, 09:00:15 07/07/14 Mon Special thanks to Oz for supplying the images... Miss USA: All Star voting resumes shortly as we narrow the Top 15 to a Top 10 (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 05:01:30 07/08/14 Tue I just realized that Cassandra looks alot like Katie Blair in this picture. (NT) -- xoxo_blondie, 16:28:26 07/08/14 Tue so can we say that the most robbed contestant in the past 3 years has been Angela Lay ton? (NT) -- I think so..., 00:07:30 07/09/14 Wed Good results, except I would have definitely kept Tiana! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:13:04 07/09/14 Wed What happenned to this? (NT) -- curious, 05:57:03 07/18/14 Fri I was just about to ask the same thing. Why did this stop? (NT) -- Gayle, 09:34:06 07/18/14 Fri I was just wondering this last night!! (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:21:02 07/18/14 Fri

Subject: Miss Teen USA 2014
Author: BeautyPageantFan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:11:23 07/15/14 Tue Miss Teen USA is a few short weeks away and soon we will be saying goodbye to the lovely Cassidy Wolf and hello to a new titleholder. Lets say the results will be in the format that was in Miss USA this year. Top 20, then Top 10, then Top 6, lets pretend it's the announcement of the semifinalists of Miss Teen USA 2014, here are the girls that have been revealed so far. 1st up... Utah Joining Her Is... West Virginia We're Calling... New York You Wished It, You Got It... Wyoming We are now 1/5 of the way there, also moving on is... Colorado You're about to get the chance of a lifetime... Georgia Also Moving Forward Is... Connecticut You Wished It, You Got It... Oklahoma Let's Invite... Kansas Half Way There With... Alabama Yes, It's You... South Carolina 9 More Spaces Left, Lets Say Aloha To... Hawaii In The Bahamas, 13 is a lucky number for... Illinois It's Your Time To Shine... Pennsylvania And YOU have the power to choose the last 6 semifinalists that complete the Top 20, Which 7 Girls That Haven't Been Called Yet Would You Choose. And From Those 20 what would be your Top 10? Top 6? Runner Ups and Winner? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Without a doubt... LOUISIANA will be included!! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 16:18:43 07/15/14 Tue Bring it on Virginia (NT) -- PN, 16:29:05 07/15/14 Tue I really hope they do a top 20 (NT) -- Phyllis, 16:32:28 07/15/14 Tue WASHINGTON for sure! (NT) -- And watch out because she will nail down the final interview questions . . ., 16:59:32 07/15/14 Tue Colorado should be there, this 5'10'' Asian American also has great crossover potential for Miss USA! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 17:09:35 07/15/14 Tue 100% agree Colorado should and will be in there and my dark horse to take the crown (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 02:11:26 07/16/14 Wed Nevada, District of Columbia, Michigan, Mississippi, Virginia, and Washington (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 17:11:04 07/15/14 Tue Add Mississippi and Nevada to that list. (NT) -- delilah, 00:26:34 07/16/14 Wed Florida should be included (NT) -- ., 01:30:10 07/16/14 Wed First, remove Georgia! Add, Minnesota, California, Mississippi, Nevada and DC! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 02:08:54 07/16/14 Wed Iowa, Mississippi, Maine, Indiana, California, Massachusetts, Washington (NT) -- JennNYC, 15:18:50 07/16/14 Wed Finally someone else who likes Indiana. I look at her and see teen all over, she's precious! (NT) -- mack_P (NSI), 16:52:14 07/16/14 Wed Washington, Texas (NT) -- KMB, 00:53:00 07/17/14 Thu Can't believe you left out Washington and Florida! (NT) -- These two candidates will be serious contenders. TripleX, 06:34:57 07/17/14 Thu Remaining 7: Arkansas, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi & Washington (NT) -- Groove, 10:22:07 07/17/14 Thu Kentucky, Washington, Arkansas, Oklahoma (NT) -- These girls are serious contenders in my book, 19:25:46 07/17/14 Thu

Subject: The Perfect Face Cosmetics
Author: . [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:16:08 07/14/14 Mon Does anyone have any feedback on how this line of makeup works for them? I know SO many contestants and winners use it. I am specifically looking for any feedback on the Picture Perfect foundation. Can this be for daily wear? Do you need/use a separate concealer with it? I wish there were reviews posted on their site. Thanks for any feedback. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This line is amazing, I use it almost everyday. The foundation is great and if used correctly and in small amounts like Danielle suggests it will last you forever! Highly suggest it to everyone in or outside the pageant world. (NT) -- CarefulObserver;), 18:31:28 07/14/14 Mon Their products are terribly expensive. I suggest finding a buddy who's got what you're looking for who'll let you try it out before spending so much money. If that's not in the cards, then hopefully you will have heard enough good reviews to just go buy it. ....Emperor's new clothes (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 18:40:54 07/14/14 Mon I've never heard of this brand (I'm on an off these boards all the time). Can anyone else provide more reviews? -- Thank you, 19:19:14 07/14/14 Mon I purchased The Perfect Face products after watching a YouTube video that Teresa Scanlan posted using them. I love the picture perfect foundation and their setting powder! The foundation, when applied with a brush, gives great full coverage for stage. When applied with a lightly dampened sponge, you get what I would consider more of a daily look. I have sensitive skin and it does not break me out. I also found their office team to be very helpful in getting me color matched. I purchased the sample size foundation before taking the plunge and ordering the full size. -- I highly recommend!, 19:41:14 07/14/14 Mon And I meant to include--I don't use concealer with it. I find that I can layer over problem areas if needed. -- Hope this helps., 19:44:56 07/14/14 Mon Thank you! I have pretty light skin (when not spray tanned for stage) and I guess I will try to order some samples. I was told Y5 (their lightest shade) would work for me, but in pics, it looks so dark! (NT) -- ., 19:51:04 07/14/14 Mon Take on of their one day courses! They are the best of the best and products so superior to that MAC crap out there! (NT) -- Experienced both, 03:39:13 07/15/14 Tue MAC foundation and Blush made me break out horribly and it took 6 months for the scars to go away! A friend suggested the Perfect Face so I ordered the DVD and bought some of their products and love them. Worth every penny. Now taking their course in person next month. They are awesome. (NT) -- Pag Girl, 02:23:02 07/16/14 Wed Plus if you are a "perfect face" user and would happen to go to USA or Teen USA- you'll be extra taken care of! (NT) -- Seems a little unfair but she'll only work with her clients backstage, 18:27:29 07/17/14 Thu -- Sxoxo, 19:04:21 07/17/14 Thu ugh my message didn't work, I use perfect face and it's awesome! You can also try my Mineral foundation it's a liquid that dries to a powder if your light use "linen" also my concealers are to DIE for and I am not just saying that! (NT) -- Sxoxo, 19:05:34 07/17/14 Thu

Subject: Fare thee well Brittany!!!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:32:23 07/12/14 Sat Congratulations to Brittany for a great year as Miss FL USA! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Awww...this is so cute oz-usb, let's face it though this girl would have won MU and it would have been deserved for once! no doubt about it. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 06:06:03 07/12/14 Sat Absolutely. Brittany joins Larissa Meek as the ones who would have won Miss Universe. They are for me two of the most beautiful Miss USA contestants ever. Perhaps in an alternate universe ... (NT) -- Buster, 03:50:10 07/13/14 Sun Brittany will probably remain one of my favorite state titleholders ever! Stunning girl! (NT) -- Athalia, 14:11:04 07/12/14 Sat Brittany was born to be Miss Universe. Being a native of the Sunshine State and from the same city like Brittany makes me SO Happy she represented the entire state so beautifully. LOVE all my homestate winners, and just hope this year's winner is a beauty too:) (NT) -- chexmex, 14:35:58 07/12/14 Sat She is such a pretty girl. All the best for a rock star Miss Florida USA! (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 14:58:45 07/12/14 Sat There's a bunch of preliminary photos up at the FL USA Flicker site, for anyone who's interested. (NT) -- delilah, 15:38:22 07/12/14 Sat I wasn't sold on Brittany when she was first crowned, but she won me over as the year went on and ended up staying cemented in my top 5. I really thought, as the RUP were being announced, that she might actually win the whole thing. FL is overdue, but I won't be surprised if they end up snagging the title in the very near future. (NT) -- JennNYC, 17:38:14 07/12/14 Sat She's on her way to Argentina this morning. She just booked the Avon campaign. She's also the celebrity model for next weeks Mercedes Benz Swim Week in Miami. This girl stay winning! (NT) -- TeamFloridaUSA, 07:30:35 07/13/14 Sun She's amazing... (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 09:46:27 07/13/14 Sun Her body and face say "Miss Universe ready"!!! I hope she stays in Argentina and gets a way of representing that country at MU...lol (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 09:56:30 07/13/14 Sun That would be amazing but I don't think she speaks Spanish. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 16:07:49 07/15/14 Tue There's still Miss World and Miss Earth for her!! (NT) -- HCF, 11:28:39 07/13/14 Sun Interesting how Florida starts with an F, she got fourth runner up, in the year 2014. (NT) -- GE, 18:13:26 07/13/14 Sun It's probably just me, but she looks so different to me from her crowning to her appearance at MUSA. Her face just seems like, I don't know, she's had some works done? She looks stunning in that blue gown and looks like her mother in the silver... (NT) -- NoPonytailsPlease, 14:58:08 07/16/14 Wed Yeah, just you. (NT) -- chexmex, 17:15:18 07/16/14 Wed love you both but I think the TAN aged her!! She looked better pasty white against the blue, than tan with silver, IMO (NT) -- Bostonian, 17:55:00 07/16/14 Wed Yep! It's the tan. Which is weird because I get a beachy vibe from her, so it's strange that a tan wouldn't suit her. Lol. (NT) -- HiJake, 18:17:18 07/16/14 Wed I'm sorry, can we stop using the word "pasty" in reference to pale skin? Her skin looks like porcelain there, certainly not pasty. Pasty is too pejorative, at least for Brittany's lovely skin. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 19:09:37 07/16/14 Wed It;s not just you. I preferred her state look to her USA look. Remember how shocked everyone was with her first candids from Vegas? I had her in my final 2 going into Vegas. But I think it was the tan and the darker hair color that made her look tired. I was actually surprised she made it as far as she did. (NT) -- Marlene, 01:24:33 07/17/14 Thu I will concede one point. The styling for most Miss Florida's is sabotage. I firmly agree that there is a Florida F--K up crew in place prior and during the national pageant. Hair, make-up seem to be off with Brittany this year and her fake tan aged her. I still love my Florida girls but the F Up crew needs to be exposed. Go Ashliegh! (NT) -- chexmex, 11:03:24 07/17/14 Thu I agree with you. Brittany looks better now than at Nationals - naturally pretty, personable, great walk, etc. But from the neck up at USA, her styling was off. Her makeup was melting in the lights, her eyes did not pop and her lips were almost colorless. She also needed some highlights and lowlights in her hair. The brown color did nothing to enhance her pretty face. (NT) -- delilah, 15:44:42 07/17/14 Thu

Subject: I am so pleased that I was ble to travel to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida to attend the Miss Florida USA pageant. I went to both nights of competition, and obviously have formulated my own opinions. I will write them (below), and post a few pics with friends from the weekend.
Author: ICEMAN [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:31:35 07/15/14 Tue LEFT - After prelims, with Shandi and Susie. RIGHT - Right before finals started, sitting with LOUISIANA USA 2nd runner-up and swimsuit winner, Madeline Langlinais My entourage for the evening. Joy Blanchard (former Louisiana Junior Miss winner), me, Madeline Langlinais, Elizabeth Langlinais - ASHLEIGH LOLLIE - MISS FLORIDA USA - I think Ashleigh is receiving some pretty unfair attention on this site. I didn't have her picked to win, but I knew she would be in the top 5, and her face is undeniable. The photos I've seen since her crowning in no way do her justice. The girl is stunningly beautiful, and gives off a Marissa Powell vibe. Having said that, I was actually hoping she would get a runner-up nod and come back next year to win. I don't think she was ready. Aside from her beautiful face, I thought she had lots of issues with presentation and styling. Her walking, modeling, posing, etc... left a lot to be desired. Her hair was a total mess, and I found her gown, although sexy in her "lollie" area, was just average. But even with all of these issues, she still found a way to connect with the judges and take the title. I personally had Ashleigh ranked 2nd runner up. But I think everything is a pretty easy fix, and I definitely think we'll see this beauty in the top 10 at Miss USA. - KAILYN PEREZ - 1st runner-up - Kailyn was my obvious pick to win it all. I found her to be the most complete, in terms of the pageant selection process. She was tall, beautiful, fit, and clearly had the most poise and speaking ability in the on-stage question. I actually found her to be top 5 ready for Miss USA. My few issues with her were her presentation (she looked a little nervous, mainly in prelims), and her gown (I think she could have done better). But these were both minor. Kailyn not winning the title was a HUGE upset, she was a mile in front in my opinion. She should be the big favorite going into next year. JESSICA VOIGHT - 2nd runner-up - Solid. There was very little room to take points off of this girl. I picked her to win the swimsuit award. She looked great. And I loved her Fernando Wong gown. She was very consistent, and totally deserving of this top 5 placement. I had her 1st runner up behind Kailyn Perez. LACEY MORGAN - 3rd runner-up - Lacey was the only girl I didn't see making the top 5. I understood how she made the top 16 cut, but I thought 5 was a pretty big stretch. She didn't do anything wrong, I just thought there were others who competed much stronger than she did. But a very good result for her. HEATHER MARTIN - 4th runner-up - Heather should be watched very closely in the future. She could definitely win this title one day. Looked great in swimsuit, and that evening gown was SEXYYYYY! I had her 3rd runner-up, and the evening gown award winner. Other comments: - Brittany Lugo was robbed of a top 5 spot! That girl is gorgeous, and could win this title moving forward. I thought she was rock solid in swimsuit, beautiful in gown (although she could do better), but left me a little disappointed in question. A one sentence answer that had no substance or thought behind it. Still should have advanced. - Linette DeLosSantos - Beautiful gown, competed better than I expected. Didn't like her all that much after onstage question. But I now understand how she was top 5 last year. - Brie Gabrielle - I've never understood all of the hype surrounding Brie. But now I do. After prelims I had her in the top 5. Then she spoke in onstage question. It was a little painful. Despite the obvious issues she has in this category, I still had her advancing to top 5, based mainly on swimsuit. But I wasn't shocked that she was excluded. Her gown was pretty bad too. Sorry, it just looked a little predictable, and I have an aversion to blondes in yellow. - Caitlin Harrison should have definitely been included in the top 15. She was the only exclusion from top 15 that I didn't understand. - BRITTANY OLDEHOFF - Cant she just do it two years in a row! I wasn't ready to watch her give up her title. She was one of my very favorite titleholders of the year. She looked sensational all weekend in Florida. Apparently she lightened her hair, and it really looked great. I told her this, and I think I would have liked it better at Miss USA lighter like it was this past weekend. Brittany will be successful down the stretch. I think this title was a stepping stone for her. In fact, the next day (Sunday) she flew to Argentina to model in an Avon campaign. Beautiful on the inside and out, sad to see her go.... - Shandi and Susie were EXCELLENT hosts for the two night event. They have such great personalities, and were a pleasure to meet. - I left Florida wondering why, out of 70 contestants, I only truly liked 4 evening gowns. Overall, Florida seems behind the times in regards to gown selection. Not a lot of trend setting going on. Very predictable, and mostly very boring evening gowns. - My final comment... An interesting point of reference... Florida actually crowned what it seems as though Miss USA has been going for the last few years. Following Olivia Culpo, Erin Brady, and now Nia Sanchez, I think Ashleigh Lollie falls right in line with this equation. The pretty face, nice body. Might not have the best stage presentation, but connects with the audience and judges really well. So in reality, if the trend at Miss USA continues next year, Ashleigh Lollie is very much so what they are looking for. But if anyone reads my comments regularly, you know I love the glamazons. I cant wait for them to reclaim the Miss USA title. I thought Kailyn Perez could have started this trend on the state level as the first crowned state titleholder of the year... Last edited by author: Tue July 15, 2014 11:06:01 Edited 4 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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And if you missed it... My side awards were PHOTOGENIC- Ashleigh Lollie; SWIMSUIT - Jessica Voight; EVENING GOWN - TIE - Heather Martin and Linnette DeLosSantos (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:09:51 07/15/14 Tue What did you think of Rachel Stacy? From the pics I saw, I was SHOCKED to see her left out. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 12:33:54 07/15/14 Tue Thanks for this, its always interesting to read opinions of people who were there. Hoping Kailyn comes back next year! (NT) -- Athalia, 12:47:11 07/15/14 Tue ICEMAN were there any girls from prelim night that you thought should have made the top 16 on finals night (NT) -- ?, 13:52:38 07/15/14 Tue Two contestants come to mind immediately. I though Caitlin Harrison and Elise Lobb were pretty much definite picks for the Top 16. And to a lesser extent, I would have maybe had Rachel Stacy and Leeza (Coral Gables) included as well. But wasnt totally surprised with those two exclusions. But definitely Caitlin and Elise. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:45:55 07/15/14 Tue LOL at "lollie" area. I love you iceman. (NT) -- jmo, 15:27:26 07/15/14 Tue Are lollies the new lavianos???? Love you ICEMAN! (NT) -- BreeZe, 16:28:57 07/15/14 Tue Madeline Lagelinais looks HOT, she should be the next Miss LA USA. I am surprised you are not surprised at that top 5, I think all the girls in there have LOVELY PERSONALITIES but I believe it could have been much stronger. As far as Lollie goes, I think top 15/20 is likely but a shutout is also possible. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 17:39:21 07/15/14 Tue Hope Madeline comes back for LA. She's very cute. ICEMAN, what do you think Melissa R. needs to do to get back into the T5 and possibly win? (NT) -- delilah, 17:58:36 07/15/14 Tue Madeline will be competing for Louisiana USA in late October. And truthfully, I'm not that well versed in the Florida contestants. But if Melissa R. is who I think she is, I think she needs to improve her fitness. Her legs, and butt, seemed a little bulky in comparison to some of the more "hard bodies" on stage. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 18:30:15 07/15/14 Tue I guess sitting in the audience offers a different perspective. I agree, in photos they do not look very strong. But in person I thought the top 5 was legitimate. I would have alternated one or two, but was not surprised necessarily. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 12:41:27 07/16/14 Wed Great summary. I appreciate your positive mention of Kailyn Perez. I had her for the win and believe she has the complete package for MUSA and beyond (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 19:59:29 07/15/14 Tue Great photo of Madeline Langlinais. I'm rooting for her to take the Lousiana USA crown this year. If she does, she'll certainly be a contender at Miss USA. (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 13:15:26 07/16/14 Wed (NT) -- ICEMAN, 13:31:19 07/16/14 Wed I agree Duration... She's certainly taking this year to do everything right in her preparations for Miss Louisiana USA, and is looking stronger and stronger. But Louisiana will be tough. Madeline Langlinais, along with strong vets like Devin Boyd, Christina Famularo, Lauren Whittle, Hilary Tuttle, Ashley Morreale, Whitney Moss, and Sheree Carroll.... Then there are several newbies who are going to be very competitive, like Ashley Giambelluca, Kimberly Newville, Courtney LeBlanc, Abby Guidry, Tanya Crowe and many others... Will be a very good show this year! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 13:38:06 07/16/14 Wed Is Abby Guidry related to Brittany Guidry perchance? (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 12:35:40 07/17/14 Thu No. She is actually Erin Edmiston's first cousin. (Erin being Miss Louisiana USA 2012)... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:20:51 07/17/14 Thu Great review! Does your tie really light up? ♥ it. (NT) -- eloise, 14:43:32 07/16/14 Wed I wear rhinestoned ties to pageants... Its kind of my "thing".... I have 12 of them now. :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:55:32 07/16/14 Wed LOL, I also assumed they were little lights and that you had some kind of tiny battery in your tie! -- Doot, 17:24:08 07/16/14 Wed I want my teeth to light up. Wondering how to shove batteries in my mouth. (NT) -- eloise, 17:55:24 07/16/14 Wed I love "things". They're the best. Right now for me, Tiki is still the reigning King of Things. That cape! So glorious. It was like Riyo wearing the tux but much funner. So André Leon Talley. You might have to come in on a unicorn to top that. I wonder how Tiki will. (NT) -- eloise, 17:51:53 07/16/14 Wed I would never dream of challenging Tiki of any kind of fashion statement. First, the velour komono... This year, the black cape. So regal, and he wears them all so well. And just the other day he posted his new luggage on facebook. I wish I could pull something like that off. Suits him perfectly. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:04:22 07/17/14 Thu I still remember when Iceman hit the scene as Russia! You have just taken us by storm, Iceman! (NT) -- Bostonian, 17:58:16 07/16/14 Wed Harken back to the days of the Louisiana message board... Yes, I was known as "RUSSIA"..... :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:02:33 07/17/14 Thu

Subject: Miss Florida USA Pageant streamed live and free Saturday Night
Author: www.News4Jax.con [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:38:31 07/12/14 Sat Watch the Miss Florida USA 2015 Pageant live and FREE as the event is streamed through the pageants Jacksonville television station. Here is the info www.News4Jax.com Live Saturday July 12 7:00 - 9:00pm EDT 70 delegates and the word from Hollywood is this is the most competitive year ever in the Sunshine state. Hosted by Shandi Finnessey and Susie Castillo [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I wouldn't be surprised if an underdog comes in and takes it. Someone like Brittany Lugo. She has a Rachel Smith vibe. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:49:00 07/12/14 Sat It's Florida so literally anything could happen. I will never understand Annilie not winning in 2012 - even less that she didn't make the top 5. Just weird. Natalie Carbonell has caught my eye as well as Melissa Ramirez. I just say the unpredictability does make FL a fun/slightly scatty watch every year. Always keeps you on the edge of your seat because you never know what will happen! (NT) -- oz-usb, 09:27:35 07/12/14 Sat I really really really like Natalie Carbonell too. Some of the pics ended up on the explore page of my IG and she really caught my attention. I think she's a bit rough around the edges and could use a little smoothing out, but I think she has loads of potential. (NT) -- HiJake, 16:35:38 07/12/14 Sat But many of those girls are out of shape. I was really suprised by how many were not toned. There is a fitness portion ladies! (NT) -- Bmyvalentine, 10:02:36 07/12/14 Sat I wonder if with all the hoopla over Miss Indiana this year, a more "normal" body is going to be the in thing this year? (NT) -- HiJake, 20:17:23 07/12/14 Sat I hope the unexpected with an underdog takes FL !!! Would love to see that !!! (NT) -- FL Fan, 10:08:27 07/12/14 Sat To see prelim swimsuit and evening gowns go to the Miss Florida USA website and on the main page to the right click on Flicker. (NT) -- Brie for the win, 10:16:30 07/12/14 Sat I am so with Hi Jake on this one. Really loving Brittany Lugo! (NT) -- M, 10:30:25 07/12/14 Sat can't say I find Lugo's gown very flattering in her. Other than Kailyn & Brie who I totally adore the two girls who totally blew me away are Valentina Esquivel and Rachel Stacy. Could Rachel rekindle the VA-FL connection? (NT) -- oz-usb, 10:47:26 07/12/14 Sat I canceled plans for this because pageants! (NT) -- eloise, 16:30:44 07/12/14 Sat Is there a link or do I just wait until 7pm? (NT) -- eloise, 17:22:09 07/12/14 Sat last year the pageant started at 7pm but there was a hour delay for tv and it was online at 8pm (NT) -- just a fyi and you just go to the news channel link., 17:26:48 07/12/14 Sat Thanks! xx (NT) -- eloise, 17:52:36 07/12/14 Sat eloise my love. Who are your favorites. I am waiting for the last possible second to put Crissy and my Road to Pick:) (NT) -- chexmex, 17:50:39 07/12/14 Sat ♥ I'm going fresh. I have not looked at a single pic. I'm excited! (Though I am tempted to have a peek for sure.) (NT) -- eloise, 17:57:11 07/12/14 Sat DO IT. Go to The Miss Florida USA Webstie and click on Flicker, and icon on the bottom right. I need some help. PLEASE. We got 50 minutes))))) (NT) -- chexmex, 18:02:03 07/12/14 Sat lmao nooooo! I wanna go fresh just like how I discovered Miss Universe! I also want to see if I can pick front-runners without influence lol. (NT) -- eloise, 19:04:08 07/12/14 Sat ok, I pick Central FL and Hollywood (havent heard them speak yet though). (NT) -- eloise, 19:39:20 07/12/14 Sat I don't have a problem with women wearing fur...but I am surprised to see a mink coat as one of the prizes. I'm even MORE surprised to see Shandi and Susie are hosting knowing a fur coat is one of the prizes. I thought they had come out publicly against fur. (NT) -- Andrew-TX, 17:58:40 07/12/14 Sat I will take any oportunity to rip on Susuie, however I dont think by her hosting means she is accepting fur as being ok. It is not as if the pageant is giving the fur coat. One of their much needed sponsors is. And with that being said I still think fur is gross and outdated. It needs to go. (NT) -- jmo, 18:42:42 07/12/14 Sat Florida got rid of fur's in 2010. The PETA representative actually sent them a thank you note. (NT) -- I understand when they picketed the producers would send water and food, 17:05:26 07/16/14 Wed Super appreciate if someone can please post the full link to watch Miss Florida live. I cannot find it. (NT) -- AB, 17:59:59 07/12/14 Sat Thanks for letting us know! Much appreciated. :) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 18:22:05 07/12/14 Sat Where is the link on News4jax.com (NT) -- No info on website, 18:26:01 07/12/14 Sat BUMP anyone have a direct link?? (NT) -- ??, 18:52:00 07/12/14 Sat Can't find it either. HELP!!! (NT) -- Freud, 18:52:38 07/12/14 Sat where on the news channel website is the link for the stream? (NT) -- I don't see anything :(, 18:53:19 07/12/14 Sat http://www.news4jax.com/news/watch-live-online/23432654 (NT) -- fan, 19:38:03 07/12/14 Sat http://www.news4jax.com/livestream/watch-live-from-WJXT/23307196 (NT) -- Freud, 18:54:25 07/12/14 Sat Found it at the bottom of the page there is link that says Live. http://www.news4jax.com/livestream/watch-live-from-WJXT/23307196 (NT) -- AB, 19:00:15 07/12/14 Sat Must be delayed or not webcasting...? It's 7:18 East Coast time & it hasn't started yet...? (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 19:19:08 07/12/14 Sat http://www.news4jax.com/livestream/watch-live-from-WJXT/23307196 (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 19:19:54 07/12/14 Sat Hollywood is very pretty (NT) -- fan, 19:27:21 07/12/14 Sat

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Author: PAGEANTQUEEN [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:53:05 07/16/14 Wed Beautiful. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Miss Universe 2014 date & place
Author: Jake [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:24:22 07/16/14 Wed Is there any possibility that during the approaching Miss Teen USA 2014 pageant the MU organization will finally announce the date and place of the much awaited 2014 Miss Universe Pageant? At this pace I see it further and further away. Maybe around Xmas time again? Who knows? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I feel like we just crowned Molly. So weird. (NT) -- eloise, 14:45:01 07/16/14 Wed

Subject: Taking the "Bubble Board plunge"!
Author: DAPHNE [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:21:08 07/15/14 Tue Hi, Bubblers! After visiting the board for years, I finally decided to take the plunge and sign up for an official username. (What was I waiting for, right?!?!) I have long been a fan of pageants, and particularly MUO. I competed years ago as a teen in a different system and have stayed involved as a pageant director, "coach," and enthusiastic spectator. I look forward to joining this great family and contributing to the conversations. ps. I chose DAPHNE as a username because Jack Lemmon as Daphne in "Some Like It Hot" is one of my favorite film characters ever! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Welcom, DAPHNE! I look forward to hear your opinions, thoughts and expertise! Enjoy your stay! I love it! (NT) -- Groove, 15:32:57 07/15/14 Tue Hi Daphne... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:51:54 07/15/14 Tue ughh.... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 13:21:18 07/16/14 Wed Aloha! Welcome! =) (NT) -- HiJake, 16:03:04 07/15/14 Tue Hi Daphne! So how did you get your offical user name? I've been wanting to do that for a while, but every time I click the log-in link at the top of page, it says that new account creation is temporarily closed, or something like that. What's the process? -- Doot, 16:40:09 07/15/14 Tue Shoot an email to the moderators and they can help you out :-) That's what I had to do, but it's pretty simple! (NT) -- DAPHNE, 16:51:17 07/15/14 Tue Cool. Thanks! -- Doot, 20:58:51 07/15/14 Tue Hi! (NT) -- eloise, 22:17:08 07/15/14 Tue Welcome Daphne :) (NT) -- USBModPageantrella, 01:35:39 07/16/14 Wed Welcome Daphne! Glad you decided to join in the fun. (NT) -- JennNYC, 03:04:57 07/16/14 Wed Welcome Daphne! It's going to be great fun! (NT) -- WilliamNYC, 03:27:43 07/16/14 Wed Welcome Daphne! (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 10:56:35 07/16/14 Wed

Subject: Pretty!
Author: MadeYaLook [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:08:28 07/08/14 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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LOVE Nia, but I am not wild about that crown. It always reminds me of Mickey Mouse ears. Plus, if you look closely at the middle of the very top, it looks like one of the pointy bits has broken off. Has this crown been dropped??? -- Doot, 18:17:21 07/13/14 Sun It was broken the night of Olivia's USA crowning (I'm pretty sure). At the beginning of the show, the green "pin top" is there when it was on Alyssa's head, and by the time Olivia was crowned, it was gone. :( A real shame. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 18:30:44 07/13/14 Sun Yep. It's been broken for awhile now. I thought Oz said it was fixed and it appeared that way in a photo after her crowning. So maybe it was fixed and broke again, or well, it was never fixed and I am seeing things. Which is always a possibility. (NT) -- jmo, 18:57:02 07/13/14 Sun I noticed that it's broken again, it was fixed by the time she was crowned and it was still hanging on by the time of her Fadils and media week but I guess it broke again (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:12:59 07/13/14 Sun It did look fixed for a while, but I wonder if it was just a "let's try to super glue this sucker back on" attempt. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 22:33:04 07/13/14 Sun Ugh! That's probably exactly what they did. So sad. Hopefully the new design won't have the antennas. (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 09:02:22 07/14/14 Mon When will we get a new design? Im sorry I'm a newbie, but is this crown passed from titleholders instead of kept? (NT) -- new kid, 21:14:49 07/14/14 Mon A new company is going to be supplying the crowns starting with Miss Universe 2014. Titleholders pass the crown but get to keep the tiara. (NT) -- Anon, 07:32:20 07/15/14 Tue So Olivia Culpo her identical two, someone post side by side and you will see it (NT) -- me, 12:49:01 07/16/14 Wed

Subject: Website with past Miss USA telecasts?
Author: Smiley [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:59:38 07/15/14 Tue Website with past Miss USA telecasts? I can't remember it's name or address. I remember watching Miss USA 1974 and finally seeing Amanda Jones' antics, haha. Help please. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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http://www.t3licensing.com/license/home.do (NT) -- John O., 19:35:43 07/15/14 Tue Thank you! Watched a bunch of past pageants last night! (NT) -- Smiley, 11:37:04 07/16/14 Wed There were videos at pageant-lovers.com. However, the link to the videos hasn't worked in quite awhile. I am not sure if they removed them entirely, or just working on them. (NT) -- GE, 11:46:16 07/16/14 Wed

Subject: She's Beautiful Here (Gabriela Isler)
Author: g [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:39:17 07/16/14 Wed help pls. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsghrQ_IQAAJZdF.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsgh7ibIAAAFxvR.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsgfGz0CAAA3H2v.jpg [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Florida throwback!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:02:38 07/12/14 Sat Just a little bit of Miss Florida USA history... can you name this winner? (& bonus points for being able to name her runner-up and which state title she later held!) I have a treat for you! Thanks to super fan Mitch Klein (and I'm so sorry Mitch, I thought this was up at the start of the year and I have no idea how it got wiped) I have state pageant results from almost every year from 1983 up on my site! http://www.pageantupdate.info/stateresults.htm#FL [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Jamie Converse (1998), runner-up is Katy Johnson, who won Miss Vermont MAO the following year and Miss Vermont USA a couple years after that. (NT) -- How was Katy eligible in VT? Was she a student?, 06:55:58 07/12/14 Sat Yep, second runner-up was Andrea Ballengee, former Miss VA Teen USA who'd been stripped of the Miss VA title (or was it Miss FL?) and 3RU was future Miss America Nicole Johnson! (NT) -- oz-usb, 07:00:56 07/12/14 Sat Andrea was stripped of her MAO title but later went on to compete as Mrs Florida, won Mrs. America and placed top 10 at Mrs. World. The Florida-Virginia connection does not end there! Kellie Lightbourne, VA USA 1995 later won Mrs. Florida and placed top 10 at Mrs. America. Shannon Depuy won Miss Virginia in 1990 and placed top 10 at MA then won Miss Florida USA in 1995 and was a finalist at MUSA. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 07:20:23 07/12/14 Sat when Andrea won Mrs. America, it was as Mrs. California. She also won another national Mrs. title, while representing Ohio. (NT) -- to my knowledge, she has never held a Mrs. title in Florida, 02:40:53 07/13/14 Sun Wow, why doesn't anyone ever accuse HER of state hopping? VA, CA, FL, OH? That's the most I've ever seen. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 22:01:40 07/13/14 Sun That was Mrs.United States in 2003. (NT) -- JennNYC, 23:37:32 07/13/14 Sun You mixed up your years Oz. Andrea Ballengee and Nicole Johnson were two of Angelia Savage's runner up for the 1997 FL USA title. (NT) -- VE, 13:57:27 07/12/14 Sat Btw. FL USA 1998 had an amazing all blond top 5. (NT) -- VE, 14:00:17 07/12/14 Sat Jaime's runner ups were Katy, Kim Decker, Jackie Briggs & Shannon Brooks (NT) -- Former Wannabe, 18:44:46 07/12/14 Sat Lol oops! (NT) -- oz-usb, 18:50:13 07/12/14 Sat Wait, Nicole Johnson competed for FL USA title before winning VA MAO? I never knew that. (NT) -- JennNYC, 01:05:06 07/13/14 Sun Katy enrolled in school in VT 6 months before the MAO state pageant. She then won and moved back to FL for the year. Needless to say, she wasn't a very popular contestant in VT. When she won VT USA, security had to get her bags from the dressing room after the pageant because Katy walked in and realized how pissed the other girls were at her and one girl in particular I guess said something that scared her (NT) -- Former, 09:14:33 07/16/14 Wed WOW! Loving the state pageant results. You are a god, Oz! (NT) -- Phyllis Darnell, 12:08:34 07/12/14 Sat Jamie Converse has always been one of my all time favorite FL titleholders. Her exclusion at Miss USA will always be a headscratcher to me. Her and Jamie Solinger were really the only two I was shocked to see miss the cut. (NT) -- JennNYC, 15:59:59 07/12/14 Sat I was shocked Jamie Converse didn't make the cut at Miss USA but wasn't surprised about Jamie Solinger because she was overweight (for pageants) and had an immature obnoxious personality. How come people ganged up on Katy Johnson for winning Vermont? She went there legitimately for college yet people are condoning Nia's suspicious move to NV when it was clear she was living and working in CA! (NT) -- Walter, 22:39:14 07/12/14 Sat I wasn't on the boards back then, but I always got the vibe it was just a general dislike of Katy in general, and not really one thing she did. Some people said she established residency in VT just to win in an easy state, but moved back to FL after winning. Whether that was true or not I don't know. And quite honestly, I have no issue with it. I wish more of my favorites in competitive states with 100+ girls would move to the likes of AK and ID! (NT) -- JennNYC, 00:18:53 07/13/14 Sun If you're state pagent is too hard, move away and get a new card... (NT) -- RockyGirl, 00:57:38 07/13/14 Sun That's true. Katy had a reputation of being an airhead (I am not sure if this is the case), she even set up a pageant website prior to competing at Miss USA. There was a story of her ex-boyfriend publically discussing intimate details of their relationship on the internet. I remember Meemaw disliked her and mocked some of her antics. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 03:36:47 07/13/14 Sun This is all true. Katy set up a website and took on a platform of abstinence and teen dating. Her ex then came out with the infamous "The Miss Vermont Story" (which is still online), with details about Katy that were less than flattering. Katy fought it on the basis of libel and said it wasn't true, even getting an injunction in court and threatening a lawsuit. She later retracted her claims when he posted video of the two of them during a weekend trip that proved they were dating (the video was not a sex tape; it just proved they were together, despite Katy claiming they weren't) (NT) -- Former, 09:19:08 07/16/14 Wed Jenn, I also recall something like that and people on the boards bashed her for only competing in VT to win because it's an easier state to win but she won both VT USA and VT America, so she lived there for much more than 6 months and she attended college there, so I found her residency legit and so what if she moved back afterwards? She could've found a job back in FL and/or wanted to be back with her family again. I loved Katy and never understood the bashing she had to endure. She also has a soft spot in my heart because she also won Miss Oktoberfest and was a much-loved queen as she spoke to many schoolchildren during her reign. (NT) -- Walter, 21:50:38 07/13/14 Sun You shouldn't rewrite history Walter.her residency was sketchy in Vermont and she moved back to Florida AFTER winning the title to prepare for miss America. She didn't care about the state only getting the crown hence the two appearances she made as miss Vermont. Not afterwards, but during. Her reign. She commuted from Florida, to Vermont to canada to speak to these schoolchildren when she won in 1998? Gee Walter, and you wonder why people questioned her residency? (NT) -- Tonya Harding, 22:41:24 07/13/14 Sun I think the residency issue was about the last thing most people had an issue with (of course there were some who did). I don't know if she found a loophole or actually lived their long enough to actually establish residency. She wouldn't be the first, and won't be the last to make a move like that. As I said, I wasn't posting on the boards back when she won her USA and MAO state titles, but I remember the first time her name came up it wasn't met with a lot of positive thoughts. Of course I have girls that are favorites of mine that are pretty much loathed for reasons that I don't feel appeal to me. I always say to each their own :) I saw Katy on an episode of MTVs Made, like 10 years ago coaching a would-be contestant, and she seemed nice enough. (NT) -- JennNYC, 00:08:38 07/14/14 Mon She actually comes off very nice, I remember the close-up of her or some sort of interview they published before USA 2001 and she seemed nice although she sounded like a pageant patty, she depattified her looks but her manners were old school pageantry. All in all, I think her bad reputation is blown out of proportions and we are 13 years past that, so. :) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:16:56 07/14/14 Mon I agree. I saw a close up of her, I thought it was for Miss America, and she came off really nice. I don't get the bashing more than a decade later. (NT) -- ..,., 09:57:36 07/16/14 Wed Katy won Miss VT America, then moved back to FL during her year of service. She didn't make any appearances and when the VT board was replaced, Katy was terrified she'd lose her crown. Once she gave up her MAO title, she completed her college education there and competed and won Miss VT USA. She did the same thing after winning VT USA though and moved back (NT) -- Former, 09:20:57 07/16/14 Wed You keep posting this about katy and it's not true.she went back to Florida after winning miss Vermont and won a grand total of two appearances as miss tv and pulled a similar stunt as miss vt usa. You need to let this go and quit making up bs (NT) -- Tonya Harding, 00:21:22 07/13/14 Sun Made a total of two appearances as miss Vermont. She also made some bitchy comments about bringing beauty to miss tv. Jenn is correct is was a lot of things, from her ridiculous website, fudging her resume, and the hypocrisy of her public vs. private life. The tucker max scandal exposed her hypocrisy in the rawest form, but it was something pageant people had known for years. (NT) -- Tonya Harding, 00:26:28 07/13/14 Sun Yes, that is true. Katy did an interview with the media in VT shortly after moving there to establish residency. She was quoted as saying that VT girls don't know much about pageantry and she hopes that she can teach them. You can only imagine how that went over. True or not, you don't go somewhere and brag about how you're going to teach the people there how to do it right and expect to be welcomed with open arms. She also was a hypocrite, as noted by Tonya Harding, by preaching about abstinence to the point of writing two books about it and yet she, herself, was not abstaining (NT) -- Former, 09:25:20 07/16/14 Wed

Subject: Profile for Ashleigh now up!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:21:14 07/13/14 Sun First profile for 2015!!! I already have quite a few pics up, considering she was crowned less than a day ago :) FL is awesome like that! Profile for Ashleigh Lollie Miss FL USA 2015 >> http://www.pageantupdate.info/missusa2015/delegates/florida.htm Last edited by author: Sun July 13, 2014 07:22:02 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Although I will miss BOlde I think this girl is Stunning! She's smart and feel she will do well at Miss USA! (NT) -- TeamFloridaUSA, 07:26:44 07/13/14 Sun I think she is beautiful and with some prep will be even better for Miss USA. (NT) -- jmo, 08:35:21 07/13/14 Sun Pretty winner! She reminds me of Marissa Powell. (NT) -- BamaMan, 08:56:50 07/13/14 Sun She's beautiful. (NT) -- WilliamNYC, 09:01:52 07/13/14 Sun Any girl crowned after the Goddess Oldehoff would have enormous shoes to fit. Ashleigh's strength is definitely the interview, and I wish her the best of luck in the national phase. Now, she needs to tame that hair and wear make-up that emphasizes less on the large distance between her eyes... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 10:04:15 07/13/14 Sun Congrats to Ashleigh! While it wasn't the result I expected, no one can argue that she is a pretty girl. Very Jessica Ahlberg to me. While I don't see her winning USA (especially if a Florida rep like Brittany doesn't), I do see her making Top 20 (or 15 if they switch back this year). (NT) -- MJ1978, 11:41:03 07/13/14 Sun Hard pass. She reminds me of one of the women from Real Housewives of New Jersey. (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 11:52:07 07/13/14 Sun THRILLED with this win! Chexy and I went back and forth with our "Road to" picks. In the end after seeing all the prelim pictures this beauty was the clear cut winner. We were really surprised more people did not pick her on the "Road to" board. She has a great chance at bringing home the USA crown. Let the year begin!!!!!!!!!!! :) (NT) -- Crissy, 12:04:52 07/13/14 Sun Not getting this at all, though I didn't watch the pageant. I was never a big B-Old Fan, but goodness, she is/was heads and shoulders above the 2015 winner! (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 12:28:40 07/13/14 Sun To me, she's like a Michelle Aguirre/Marissa Powell/Snooki combo. From someone who had no dog in this fight, I think she's a lovely representative. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 13:01:46 07/13/14 Sun Flordia got it right. She is so natural on stage with really no previous experience. Ashleigh came out of no where and stole the show. Kailyn was worthy too, but she is a bit patty for my taste. Although she toned it down a bit this year. She can win next year. Brie, well, what can I say. She has a couple more years too. I wanted her to win but once I saw the preliminary pics on Flicker, Ashleigh was the face and body of the pageant. So glad I went with my heart on The Road To. Top 5 was a shocker and a lot of girls not making Top 15 was also annoying. In the end, I love my homestate winner. (NT) -- chexmex, 13:13:31 07/13/14 Sun What's up with the southern states? The American south is bringing it grown & sexy y'all. First Brittany, now Ashleigh. If this continues Florida will battle it out with Alabama to become the southern powerhouse. Texas who? . (NT) -- Caramel-blonde, 18:09:56 07/13/14 Sun Texas....the state who hasn't made the semi-finals only 5 times since 1975 and only missed 12 times since 1952. Yes, THAT Texas honey. (NT) -- Just keeping it real, 15:04:57 07/14/14 Mon meant to say missed (not made) (NT) -- JKIR, 15:07:47 07/14/14 Mon She's got a FANTASTIC swimsuit figure! I think her face is fine, but she'll look a lot better if someone fixes her brows. She's drawing them in too close together and too straight across. Start them at the right point, and give a bit of an arch, and she'll look awesome! (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 19:28:07 07/13/14 Sun Both of the top 2 looked like mannequins kept in storage and needed to put a brush through their hair. (NT) -- She's a clapper. Not pretty at all., 23:02:49 07/13/14 Sun Lollie Lollie Lollie get your adverbs here :P (NT) -- GPP, 00:55:49 07/14/14 Mon Omg! I think of that song every time I see her name! Lol. Glad I'm not the only one. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:52:09 07/14/14 Mon Maybe it's just the eyes that are too wide apart but she appears cross-eyed on most of the pictures I've seen her so far. I can see that she's got the basic goods and her styling team would be wise to model her after Marissa Powell. I may be in the minority who did not like B.Olde that showed up at MUSA. (NT) -- Banalities, 01:25:04 07/14/14 Mon On the last part.... shhhhh I agree but I got kinda called out on it by BOld herself! oops. It's possible to like a girl but not her styling, no? (NT) -- oz-usb, 01:27:22 07/14/14 Mon I can't scroll past her gown photo without thinking of Jesica (NT) -- oz-usb, 01:28:04 07/14/14 Mon New winner--nice SS, very so-so sort of square shaped face. (NT) -- DeeDee, 09:55:34 07/14/14 Mon Excuse me, but WHERE is the photo of the winner in the pink chair? (NT) -- Please discuss this important issue, 14:00:41 07/14/14 Mon Go to the Miss Florida USA Website and press the Icon for FLICKER on the right. She is on THE CHAIR, LOL! (NT) -- chexmex, 14:25:16 07/14/14 Mon LOL Right? God that chair is hidious. I also hope it never goes away. Something about that huge tacky pink chair is just a tradition. (NT) -- jmo, 19:04:09 07/14/14 Mon Can't leave this picture off the board for too long! (NT) -- xoxo-blondie, 19:44:03 07/15/14 Tue I'm gonna go ahead and call it; FLORIDA has a back to back placement with this uber hotness of a woman; Top 15 at least. (NT) -- Groove, 19:16:49 07/14/14 Mon Maybe its just me but Florida got it all wrong this year. The 1st runner up should of definately been the winner, clear standout. I thought this girl did horrible on Q&A and she needs major help in interview before Nationals. The 1st runner up was not only MISS USA material but could of competed with the best of them at Universe. (NT) -- Westtnmommy, 22:29:22 07/15/14 Tue

Subject: Miss Mississippi 2014 (Miss America Pageant)
Author: a fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:55:24 07/13/14 Sun Jasmine Murray became the 3rd black woman to win Miss Mississippi. The 1st black winner was Toni Seawright, Miss Mississippi 1987 and the 2nd winner was Kimberly Morgan, Miss Mississippi 2007. http://www.msnewsnow.com/video http://www.msnewsnow.com/video?clipId=10360467&autostart=true [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm so very ecstatic Jasmine won! This is such great news. She seems like a genuinely sweet, caring girl. I've loved her cuteness since she was a finalist on AI. Mississipp's gonna make at least Top 15, if not Top 5 (which is a no-brainer in the MAO). (NT) -- Groove, 16:36:54 07/13/14 Sun I thought she looked familiar! I initially thought she was a former Teen. Lol. Beautiful girl. (NT) -- HiJake, 17:47:22 07/13/14 Sun She is! She was Miss Mississippi's Oustanding Teen 2007 - competed with Bishara Dorre (Miss WI USA) & Moani Hara (Miss HI USA) at MAOT! Bishara & Jasmine both made top 10... (NT) -- oz-usb, 17:56:33 07/13/14 Sun did she make t 5 (NT) -- catalina, 19:58:14 07/15/14 Tue AA's in Miss Miss. -- Tim, 16:09:22 07/14/14 Mon

Subject: I hate Florida!
Author: eloise [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:56:05 07/12/14 Sat Never watching that show again. Last edited by author: Sat July 12, 2014 20:59:33 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Hahaha! I'm stoked. I really liked her and facially preferred her over Perez. Her "Lollies" really popped, so maybe that gave her the edge. Hehe. (NT) -- HiJake, 20:59:36 07/12/14 Sat I'm glad I won't be alone in supporting Ashley throughout the year :) For all the talk of other states crowning girls who pay their dues and crowning what people call "tired veterans who need to hang it up", give Florida credit for going with an out of left field pick and taking a chance on a new girl. Looking at the top 5 she's the sole stand out, with Heather Martin second. I just wish I had gone with her on the Road to like I planned! ETA: I guess calling them "Lollies" is the new Lavianos? (NT) -- JennNYC, 21:50:44 07/12/14 Sat "Tired veterans who need to hang it up" LOL, I must have missed that one. Some veterans indeed look tired, but others look better than ever. I think Texas also could crown a newcomer to the USA system, Siria Bojorquez, she's gorgeous. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 22:02:27 07/12/14 Sat Yeah, someone quoted that once and it's always stuck with me. I can't remember who they were talking about. I figure, if a girl wants to keep giving it all she's got until she ages out, why not? I do think that, for some girls, it's obvious that they've reached their peak and probably won't be as competitive as they once would have been. In terms of vets and TX, my heart will belong to Tahnae Tarkenton, but if she can't finally pull off a win, then some of the girls from last years top 5 (Alejandra and Yliana), or SF Caitlyn Rasmussen, Erin Kay, and Kenda Carroll would be my picks. (NT) -- JennNYC, 22:24:10 07/12/14 Sat I think Yliana and Alejandra will be in the mix. Yliana will be tough to beat but Siria has a good shot in my opinion. I do not think we will be the level of favoritism Brie enjoyed this weekend. I really like Tahnae and if I am not mistaken this is her last year. Unfortunately I do not think she will win this year either. By the way, one of my favs Peyton Saverance (who always has great styling) will not be coming up as she recently got married. I think she had at least one year left. :( (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 22:40:34 07/12/14 Sat coming back, I meant. ;) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 22:41:28 07/12/14 Sat Why are Texas Miss & Teen pageants 3 months apart? (NT) -- eloise, 22:57:36 07/12/14 Sat I always thought it had to do with the number of contestants. Plus, TX USA used to be a lot more prestigious event-it was a week long with a lot going on during pageant week (honestly, I felt like the activities almost rivaled Miss USA), and it was televised. That's just a guess, though. Hawt, I have to say I agree about Tahnae. It saddens me to say it and I really hope I'm wrong, but she's one who I feel peaked and now it's someone else's time. This will be unpopular, but she should have won TX Teen in 2007 over Sommer Isdale. If Jordan Schultz wins, I'll be having the same reaction to that as people are having to Kailyn losing in FL. I just do not get the hype with that one, especially with who else TX has competing. TX is like FL, with way too many girls getting passed over that would have easily won on their first try in any other state. I'm sad to think about all my faves that I never got to see on the USA or Teen USA stage. (NT) -- JennNYC, 00:14:23 07/13/14 Sun I've seen one Miss Texas pageant on youtube. I think it was the one where either Megan Ellis was crowned or crowned a new winner. It was GRAND! All the bells and whistles that go with pageantry. I think they even had uniformed men from infantry or navy (military anyway, also I could very well be mistaking it for another pageant). They also had a bajillion girls! That proved to me that Texas is USA's Venezuela. Loved it and wish I can watch this year's. (NT) -- eloise, 14:35:33 07/13/14 Sun Yes, it was a TOP NOTCH production - even winning the Emmy Award a few times. It was a full 8 days of grueling rehearsals, appearances, television promos, side competitions (like celebrity swimsuit competition) and meet and greets. It was SO much fun and a true experience to be had. The men you are talking about were the Texas A&M Singing Cadets - they weren't military, just wore cadet-type uniforms. They sang and escorted the girls. The pageants are separate because both have over 100 girls competing and it would be impossible to give each pageant the appropriate attention. The production numbers with special effects and sound were also incredible. Definitely an experience of a lifetime - and thankful I did it 4 times. (NT) -- ., 09:24:25 07/15/14 Tue LOVE the winnner, BAMA my Brother, get a look at those TAH TAHS! Miss Florida is bodacious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- chexmex, 00:38:43 07/13/14 Sun This totally reminds me of the 2012 result and Annilie getting shut out of top 5 an a weird top 15. Random thought, the winner is the lovechild of Julianna Erdesz and Jesica Ahlberg. (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:01:11 07/12/14 Sat Perez was CLEAR Top 5 at Miss USA....winner is a clapper. Why does FL do this so often. The clear winner was right there!!!! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 21:03:00 07/12/14 Sat Yaha. Kailyn's interview question was one of the best I've heard in a pageant... (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:08:30 07/12/14 Sat Yes it was! So much poise and stage presence. She could be a Miss VZ or DR with that presence. Should have crowned her. (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 21:14:24 07/12/14 Sat I'm sad! I thought Kailyn had it. (NT) -- MJ1978, 21:14:27 07/12/14 Sat lol you guys. I felt exactly how Kailyn looked. It was a quintessential "Wait, what???" moment. (NT) -- eloise, 21:08:52 07/12/14 Sat Damn! The bad thing is that we're never going to hear the end of it. Lol. I like Kailyn (I actually liked her more last year when she didn't have as much support), but I don't think she'd do well at Miss USA. She seems like an awesome chick and would most likely be an awesome titleholder, but wouldn't make an impact nationally,in my opinion. (NT) -- HiJake, 21:09:09 07/12/14 Sat lol I'm gonna torment you all year long. (NT) -- eloise, 21:11:11 07/12/14 Sat lol, eloise! (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 21:14:59 07/12/14 Sat lol Jake will put her on his top five list for USA just to spite the disappointed. Watch. (NT) -- eloise, 21:57:58 07/12/14 Sat Hahahaha! Well, she's #1 on my list right now! Lol. (NT) -- HiJake, 22:06:21 07/12/14 Sat HiJake, you said it PERFECTLY. She was definately going for that Universe feel, but I think the winner is absolutely beautiful. Style her hair to show off her face and get her a sexy gown (NT) -- fan, 21:53:13 07/12/14 Sat She needs a good conditioner...her hair scratched my tv screen during the swimsuit competition... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 22:07:09 07/12/14 Sat LMAO! =) (NT) -- HiJake, 22:09:02 07/12/14 Sat PREACH!!! Love the winner! She has a multidemensional look, gorgeous figure, Amazing Lollies (stole that one from you), is smart as hell and gorgeous! Kailyn looks the same in every picture, not a bad thing but she would have not stood out at Miss USA. (NT) -- chexmex, 10:29:31 07/13/14 Sun I actually like her! I think she reminds me of Jessica A from Alabama! (NT) -- Miss USA? I don't think so. Top 20? YES!, 22:03:09 07/12/14 Sat Well, I'm having some Brie with fig jam tonight, for I am almost getting depressed with the results... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 22:04:20 07/12/14 Sat CRISSY AND I picked her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, she is Gorgeous. Eloise, get over it, but I still love you:))))))))) (NT) -- chexmex, 22:05:02 07/12/14 Sat lol I promise I will. ♥♥♥ (NT) -- eloise, 22:07:54 07/12/14 Sat After googling images of Ashleigh, I immediately put her in my Top 5! Florida is gonna have a back to back placement ;) I'm just extremely surprised that Jessica & Lacey made it that far. I would've crowned Ashleigh, Brie, Kailyn, Melissa or Anh. My heart just aches for Brie :'( (NT) -- Groove, 16:20:01 07/13/14 Sun Me TOO! I adore her. Just hope she comes back. Her interview just seems to get away from her. She answers the question but it seems to ramble and loses focus. Nerves, can't blame her. (NT) -- chexmex, 16:43:24 07/13/14 Sun I feel for Brie, and I also hope she returns. I didn't watch the pageant so I don't know if it was obvious why she missed the cut to the top 5. But I thought she really shined in photos and the intro video posted a few weeks back. I had said I didn't think she had it in the bag, and I guess I was right. This is one of those outcomes that's bittersweet. Love the winner, but sad my original pick hasn't punched her ticket yet to Miss USA. (NT) -- JennNYC, 20:47:05 07/13/14 Sun I think she did very well in SS and EG but some said she had dead eyes. It clearly WAS NOT the best of the 4 USA state pageants she competed in and the answer was not that good, but then again a lot of the top 16 did not answer that well. Kailyn (amazing answer) and Ashleigh were among exceptions. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:12:49 07/14/14 Mon Glad I did not watch this whole thing. I guess Miss USA is no longer a beauty pageant. (NT) -- Cal, 00:48:13 07/13/14 Sun There's still 49 states and DC to go, so let's not jump to conclusions. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 19:54:10 07/14/14 Mon Should we place bets on how many states will be crowned by the time the first person says "It's the weakest year ever!" (NT) -- JennNYC, 03:55:27 07/15/14 Tue LOL so very true!! I'm about to get rich, y'alls. (NT) -- Groove, 18:06:30 07/15/14 Tue Weakest Top 5 I've seen in a long time, but I like the winner, she's the love child of Miss Utah 2013 and Miss Florida 2013. With a few makeup and hair tips, she will look great. Certainly has the potential to crack the top 5 (NT) -- mack_P (NSI), 08:57:06 07/15/14 Tue she looks like she wears dentures or has an underbite or something. her bottom lip looks strange too. i just don't see it...sorry (NT) -- sorry, 19:44:19 07/15/14 Tue

Subject: Miss Teen USA 2014 contestants at Miss USA 2014
Author: thePageantGuy [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:15:40 07/10/14 Thu Here is a video of the Miss Teen USA 2014 contestants during their visit to Baton Rouge for the Miss USA 2014 pageant. >> http://www.thepageantguy.com/video-miss-teen-usa-2014-contestants/ -Will [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What a beautiful class of Teens! IMO these young women far out shine their Miss sisters, I found it hard to pick the stand outs because all but a few are just that stand outs. What an exciting competition this will be. I love the class of 2014 (NT) -- MeFromCali, 15:21:21 07/15/14 Tue

Subject: Miss Teen USA
Author: MissUSAFan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:13:30 07/14/14 Mon Miss Teen USA is just under 3 short weeks away! I know the hype with the new FL USA and the new Miss US going to MW, etc, is a hot topic right now, but I want to know where everyone stands SO FAR for teen? My opinion personally changes daily almost, but here is where I stand. Who is your top 15? 10? 5? Winner? Photogenic? Congeniality? Top 15 Alabama Arizona California District of Columbia Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Nevada New York Oklahoma Pennsylvania South Carolina Utah Washington West Virginia Top 10 Alabama California District of Columbia Mississippi Nevada Oklahoma Pennsylvania South Carolina Washington West Virginia Top 6 (I just couldn't narrow down a 5!) California District of Columbia Mississippi Pennsylvania South Carolina West Virginia 5th RU - District of Columbia 4th RU - California 3rd RU - West Virginia 2nd RU - Mississippi 1st RU - Pennsylvania Winner - South Carolina Photogenic - Pennsylvania Congeniality - Utah (she just looks like the sweetest girl ever) This was HANDS DOWN harder to pick then Miss USA. I don't know why I see South Carolina winning, I just do. I see a brunette winning, and something about her catches my eye. Again, I could feel completely different next week :] [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Agree with Pennsylvania win miss photogenic, but she can win it all!!!! My favorite are Pennsylvania , Mississippi and Colorado! (NT) -- Ricoky, 12:00:42 07/14/14 Mon My faves are Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, Mississippi, Minnesota (NT) -- Just to name a few, 13:15:54 07/14/14 Mon I can't pick teen, because you really don't know. I was shocked at some that made it into the finals last year as well as the top 5 (NT) -- PM, 13:59:00 07/14/14 Mon also. the winner will most likely be 18 or 19 yrs old(and I understand why, it is difficult for a minor who has not graduated HS to go on to NY on their own) (NT) -- PM, 14:01:50 07/14/14 Mon muo has made changes to be more flexible with teens since they are usually all in school, i know from PA bio that she is cyber schooled which is a huge edge..judges will see that (NT) -- Atlantis, 14:15:47 07/14/14 Mon i would hope so (NT) -- catalina, 17:23:25 07/14/14 Mon cyber school or not. There is always an issue when you have a minor living on their own in NYC. Too many legal issues, dealing with parents etc.. (NT) -- pm, 19:58:05 07/14/14 Mon The girls were told they only live in NYC if they are attending the NY Film Academy (NT) -- ITK, 20:53:35 07/14/14 Mon Pennsylvania is just the most adorable girl ever. Click in to see my T15, T10, T5 . -- MJ1978, 20:29:01 07/14/14 Mon My favorites are WA, CA, AL, Arkansas, and OK. I won't be surprised if WA will take the crown home. She is a total package. (NT) -- Jay-z, 05:06:32 07/15/14 Tue Top 5: Mississippi, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Alabama, Minnesota. Top 15: Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, New York, Maryland, California, Colorado, Kentucky. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:17:02 07/15/14 Tue Top 5- Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Indiana, and Maryland. Really don't understand why Indiana isn't getting much love, she's awesome! (NT) -- Bubbles for Top 5 Washington, California and Kentucky, 08:50:48 07/15/14 Tue TOP 5: Mississipi, WA, AL, Kentucky, OK (NT) -- Dark Horse: CA and PA, 10:48:25 07/15/14 Tue

Subject: IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN!! THE ROAD TO MISS USA 2015 CONTEST IS NOW OFFICIALLY OPEN FOR MISS FLORIDA USA!! PLEASE VISIT WWW.VOY.COM/213733/ TO SUBMIT YOUR ENTRY!
Author: Qban [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:09:54 07/08/14 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Do they have the Teen on a different date since they havent been to nationals yet? (NT) -- Phyllis, 14:27:46 07/08/14 Tue All Miss and Teen pageants for USA are at the top of the page. Yes, the Teen pageant is held on a different date; same with Texas. (NT) -- Groove, 16:12:04 07/08/14 Tue Let the contest begin! I can't believe it's that time already! The state contestants, picking my favorites and playing The Road to...is absolutely my favorite part of all pageant seasons!!!!! (NT) -- Groove, 16:10:44 07/08/14 Tue So excited! Thanks Qban for all your time and work organizing this! (NT) -- JennNYC, 20:11:54 07/08/14 Tue reminder (NT) -- contest is open to all participants, 11:57:21 07/10/14 Thu If I missed FL is it too late to participate? And how does one vote? (NT) -- djm (not signed in), 02:25:03 07/15/14 Tue You can join at any time during the pageant season! A thread will be posted on the ROAD TO page for each contest and you enter your pick for the winner! Easy and fun so join us again the Labor Day weekend as the next contest revs up. (NT) -- Qban, 09:13:40 07/15/14 Tue

Subject: All about the brows!
Author: Former contestant [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:28:01 07/13/14 Sun Ok, Ok, I admit, I've been using a pencil on my brows. I have very dark hair and blackish brows. I've been trimming them and using MAC's brow pencil in Lingering. But lately, I'm finding I want a more beautiful brow and don't know how to get it. I see brunettes with grayish/taupe brows that look perfectly sculpted all filled in with makeup, but I don't know what makeup they use and how they get the powder (I assume they use powder?) to stay all day long. Any advice or help? - A former [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Former contestant here - everyone is used a product like the Anastasia Dip Brow Pomade (other brands make similar ones as well, but this is my favorite) - you can sculpt your brows to high heavens - I swear by it! (NT) -- Hope this helps!, 14:34:27 07/13/14 Sun Gimme Brow by benefit is awesome. Its like a mascara wand so you can shape and fill in. (NT) -- LuckyPenny, 17:53:47 07/13/14 Sun I use Tarte's Amazonian Clay Waterproof Brow Mousse. Love it. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 19:30:59 07/13/14 Sun If you're not ready to make the investment yet for Anastasia, try this you can find it at target or ulta (NT) -- BreeZe, 20:02:33 07/13/14 Sun I just bought this an like it. I definitely want to try the Anastasia line but this is good for me while I'm on a budget. -- ., 19:22:56 07/14/14 Mon Even cheaper, E.L.F.'s $3 Studio Eyebrow Kit! I have almost black hair, and the Medium shade is perfect for me. It's a tinted brow cream-gel and powder, in a mirrored compact with a tiny double ended brush. I do use my own brush though, and toss the one it comes with. Love the gel for filling in and keeping hairs in line. I rarely use the powder for brows, but will use it for eye shadow or counturing in a pinch. (NT) -- I get mine at Target, 19:34:58 07/14/14 Mon Try my brow blenders at www.SmoakShop.com they are Bomb! (NT) -- Sxoxo, 03:25:06 07/14/14 Mon dude, "Smoak?"...how genius is that?! (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 20:48:12 07/14/14 Mon -- Sxoxo, 20:06:19 07/14/14 Mon

Subject: Opinion on this gown for EG?
Author: future MAO contestant [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:58:47 07/08/14 Tue It's for MAO. http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Aidan-Mattox-Long-Sleeve-Sequined-Gown-Ocean-Blue-Aidan-Mattox/prod168090056_cat16870753__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.jsp%253FitemId%253Dcat16870753%2526pageSize%253D30%2526No%253D0%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod168090056&cmCat=product [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm going to have to say no. It's too matronly ,IMO. You can do a lot better. (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 18:10:49 07/08/14 Tue It reminds me of the dress Miss Missouri wore in 2008, she was gorgeous, unfortunately the dress was her downfall. I would say NO. (NT) -- chexmex, 18:58:59 07/08/14 Tue I like the idea of the dress. but IMO it needs to hit the floor at the very least. I say spend the same sort of money at a pageant trunk show somewhere. The long sleeves and sparkles are in, so you're on the right track :) (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 19:38:29 07/08/14 Tue No! (NT) -- No No No, 21:26:01 07/11/14 Fri very mother of the bride IMO. I would say no, not even for MAO (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:44:05 07/11/14 Fri Sadly, you posted this either on Pageant Guru or the other MAO board and you got the same response from that site. This gown is not the right gown for a pageant. Do you think that all pageant fans not know what is right or not? Sorry not meaning to "attack you" but it's crazy to me that you don't take the advice of an MAO pageant site for a dress that you want to wear in an MAO prelim. (NT) -- whiteknight, 22:48:38 07/11/14 Fri Take it easy, "whiteknight." Trends come and go, but still everything in pageantry will stay 100% subjective. Our opinion is no more valid than this contestant's mother or grandmother, who probably thought this dress looked lovely on her. This girl can ask for advice from boards and not take it as much as she wishes. I'm sure her budget was tight. I'm sure she didn't have 1000s of dollars at her disposal. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 18:04:40 07/12/14 Sat Celia, the point I was getting at is that the poster posted this on a MAO board, asked the same question and not a single person said it would be a good idea to wear. Nothing about spending mega bucks, but solid good founded reasons behind why it wasn't a good pageant gown for a young woman. And the poster basically thought they didn't know anything and came here to post it a few weeks later to ask the same question and is basically getting the same answers. IF the poster is entering an MAO pageant, (and we all know that MAO and UNIVERSE pageants are very different in styles liked to be worn), it is a slap in the face of all the posters (and again some were big name posters with years of experiance) to ask for advice, get it, and the ignore it to come post on another site to prove they didn't know what they were talking about. (NT) -- Whiteknight (not signed in), 01:58:08 07/13/14 Sun I think that everyone has the right to a second opinion. That saved my life when my view conflicted with the medical experts. I see no reason why pageant experts should be treated with greater veneration than medical professionals. (NT) -- Duration_and_Convexity (not logged in), 02:34:30 07/13/14 Sun I think it's too short. I like the back but as sparkly as it is, it's a bit dull. Oddly, I think it's very very Miss America. If you like this style, I would recommend something closer to the dress Stacie Juris (IL USA 12) wore. (NT) -- eloise, 16:45:00 07/12/14 Sat Is your vision to have a sparkly long sleeved gown or are you more conservative and would like more coverage in general? If the former, I would say it's very hard to go with a long sleeved gown without it coming off as matronly. You would need it to be form fitting and have either sheer elements, low cut, or leg slit. If you are just looking for more coverage (i.e. no cleavage or leg slits), I would suggest not going with the long sleeves, and instead simply picking a more conservative cut (like a portrait neckline). You need to make sure the gown does not come off as too teen- so color and material is very important (a black, navy or jewel toned somewhat form fitting gown will read less teen than a pastel ball gown). Since Tony Bowls is the official MAO gown sponsor, click in for some conservative gowns I think would work well at the MAO Miss level: -- Grace-Under-Pressure, 13:54:47 07/14/14 Mon

Subject: MISS FL USA WEBCAST
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:04:15 07/12/14 Sat Here's the link to the FREE Miss Florida USA webcast from News4Jax - starting in just a few minutes!!!! ~~http://www.news4jax.com/livestream/watch-live-from-WJXT/23307196~~ http://www.news4jax.com/news/watch-live-online/23432654 RESULTS Miss FL USA - Ashleigh Lollie 1RU Kailyn Perez 2RU Jessica Voight 3RU Lacey Morgan 4RU Heather Martin TOP FIVE Well I'm not sure anyone predicted that top five! Heather Martin - Lake Eola Jessica Voigt - Capital City Lacey Morgan - Orange County Ashley Lollie - Emerald Coast Kailyn Perez - Central FL MISS FLORIDA USA TOP 16 - as always in FL some huge surprise omissions! Natalie Carbonell - Plantation Jessica Voigt - Capital City Heather Martin - Lake Eola Melissa Ramirez - Florida Keys Lacey Morgan - Orange County Ashley Lollie - Emerald Coast Brianna Esteves - Tampa LInette De Los Santos - Hollywood Melissa Ziegler - West Broward Sarah Rogers - Jacksonville Marissa Danish - Sanford Celine Pelofi - Sunny Isles Beach Ana Perez - Miami Brittany Lugo - Hollywood JCI Brie Gabrielle - Jupiter Kailyn Perez - Central FL Last edited by author: Sat July 12, 2014 21:22:25 Edited 7 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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last year the pageant started at 7pm but there was a hour delay for tv and it was online at 8pm (NT) -- fyi keeping checking, 19:10:21 07/12/14 Sat Well the webcast does say 7-9pm so I'm not sure what's going on :( Boooooo!!!! (NT) -- oz-usb, 19:11:36 07/12/14 Sat I know last year at the pageant it was announced there is 1hr delay (NT) -- not sure but last year it was on at 8 though it started at 7, 19:16:58 07/12/14 Sat Ahhh..ok. Good to know. I was wondering why it hadn't started yet..:) (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 19:20:57 07/12/14 Sat Kissies! (NT) -- eloise, 19:15:10 07/12/14 Sat A lot of surprises in the semi-finals. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 19:32:55 07/12/14 Sat Some favs that did not make it: Connor Boss, Glenda Pietri, Anh Do, Elise Lobb and Taisha Smellie. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 19:39:51 07/12/14 Sat RACHEL STACY wtf???!!! (NT) -- oz-usb, 19:41:40 07/12/14 Sat I ♥ Central Florida. Hollywood is a mix of T&T 2004 and Rachel Smith. (NT) -- eloise, 19:37:38 07/12/14 Sat Emerald Coast is my interview pick from the first group. I wish Brie's eyes were not so sleepy looking (NT) -- fan, 19:39:59 07/12/14 Sat Sarah Rogers answer... asked whether tv had positive images of women (ok that's a bad summary but I'm forgetting) and anyway she was like "well we're on tv now" and went on with a speech about what she'd do as Miss FL USA...wth? That didn't answer the question! (NT) -- oz-usb, 19:42:33 07/12/14 Sat lol. and then you get hollywood's 1 word answer. then bree wouldnt shut up. then Central just wiped the floor with them lol. (NT) -- eloise, 19:47:14 07/12/14 Sat OMG wasn't Kailyn insanely incredible?! That was a Miss USA answer right there. But found it hilarious she was essentially answering Shandi's Miss USA question :P (NT) -- oz-usb, 19:48:28 07/12/14 Sat I hate suggesting plastic surgery for girls, but Kailyn would look gorgeous if she just got a nose job. Her nose bothers me. Gorgeous face, but I can't get past the nose. (NT) -- Sorry :(, 20:15:20 07/12/14 Sat Kailyn Perez gave the best & most confident answer. She reminds me of a taller Valerie Pro. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 19:49:04 07/12/14 Sat Perez NAILED her question! Did anybody notice it was the same question that Shandi got while in top 5 at Miss USA 2004? I wish the camera had been focused on her face as well when the question was asked! (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 19:49:27 07/12/14 Sat How did Susy and Shandi do as hosts? (NT) -- I can't see, 22:12:31 07/12/14 Sat That last girl gave probably the best answer I've heard to a pageant question. (NT) -- She's not my winner, but DAMN! You go, girl!, 19:51:47 07/12/14 Sat Looks like the interview was set up just like MAO panel interviews in front of all of the judges, in stead of the traditional (I think) speed-dating/sitting down interviewing. Is this a change happening across the nation? or is it state specific? (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 19:52:45 07/12/14 Sat It varies from state to state. I know of full panel interviews, as well as where the panel is cut in half and you talk to judges on one side and then switch after a few minutes to the other judges. I've never heard of the speed dating type interview at an MUO pageant, but it may happen in some states. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 10:13:24 07/14/14 Mon Wow! No Glenda? I thought she looked great in Prelims. Happy for Melissa. (NT) -- delilah, 20:01:03 07/12/14 Sat Ashley Lollie stood out to me early on, so I'm happy she made the cut. I can't say this line up surprises me too much, though Connor Boss being excluded isn't something I saw coming. Hoping Brie takes it! I'll be happy with Kailyn though. (NT) -- JennNYC, 20:04:37 07/12/14 Sat B.Lugo and M.Ziegler FTW Brie needs to wake up and Kailyn has great body and brain not so much face. -- FlFan, 20:09:34 07/12/14 Sat The aura of Brie is terrific, but there's something about her in close-ups that doesn't have me saying, Wow! Still, T5 material. Connor, I believe, gained weight (I remember seeing some swimsuit photos of her online and she wasn't in the best shape). Linette has a great body and walk, but facially doesn't do it for me. (NT) -- delilah, 20:11:31 07/12/14 Sat Emerald Coast,Brie, and the last girl are my top 3 (NT) -- fan, 20:08:20 07/12/14 Sat Linette De Los Santos is actually a very HOT girl, much more telegenic than photogenic, think of a hotter Adriana Diaz. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 20:08:51 07/12/14 Sat Who owns Florida? Do they get a lot of funding? They seem really organized and pro. They cover all the details well. Also, GREAT hosting! Both on and off stage. (NT) -- eloise, 20:10:06 07/12/14 Sat The Gravitts. They own a tv production company. (NT) -- HiJake, 20:23:35 07/12/14 Sat et voila! Great show. (NT) -- eloise, 20:37:16 07/12/14 Sat Kailyn, Brie, Brittany Lugo, Ashleigh tops in SS. High score to Kailyn. Dang, that girl is on fire!!! C'mon Brie!!!!! (NT) -- Dude in FL =D, 20:11:07 07/12/14 Sat That green gown the non-semifinalist just wore on stage was so beautiful (NT) -- fan, 20:23:04 07/12/14 Sat That's Rachel Stacy and it's an absolute joke that she didn't make the top 16. (NT) -- oz-usb, 20:46:03 07/12/14 Sat Are they on break right now? It looks like the girls are ready in gown, but I've got a blank screen. (NT) -- delilah, 20:23:30 07/12/14 Sat My top 5 prediction: Kailyn Perez, Brie Gabrielle, Linette de los Santos, Melissa Ramirez and Marissa Danish, let's see how I'll do. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 20:32:41 07/12/14 Sat Melissa Zeigler, Celine Pilofi, Brittany Lugo, Brie Gabrielle, Kailyn Perez. I want to replace Brie with Linette though. (NT) -- eloise, 20:34:50 07/12/14 Sat LMAOOOOOOOOOOO (NT) -- eloise, 20:42:47 07/12/14 Sat I'm not a fan of Carbonelle's photo (top left) at all (only because her mouths open kinda weird). She's such a pretty girl. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 20:33:18 07/12/14 Sat My 5: # 6 Emerald Coast,#8 Hollywood, and the last three girls. I think they're going to pick #16 Central Florida, Brie is my pick. (And I still love that green gown Brie wore one year at California) (NT) -- fan, 20:34:05 07/12/14 Sat can they make it more obvious that they want kailyn to win? those 4 other girls in the top five? really no brie no Brittany no Melissa no linette.....interesting (NT) -- FlViewer, 20:45:10 07/12/14 Sat LOL at the top 5, really? (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 20:42:25 07/12/14 Sat Pretty random Top 5. The short one in the purple is the prettiest. (NT) -- HiJake, 20:45:30 07/12/14 Sat Oh no...they're gonna do the weird crowning, aren't they?!? (NT) -- HiJake, 20:48:32 07/12/14 Sat it's interesting. I'm kinda enjoying it. (NT) -- eloise, 20:52:38 07/12/14 Sat They're stacking it for Kailyn. She has no real competition except for Lake Eola but then, not even. (NT) -- eloise, 20:45:33 07/12/14 Sat I'm shocked. There were some good girls left out of the first cut and then the T5 solidified the WTF quality of some of the picks. Judges must not have been considering facial beauty very much (NT) -- Not to say the T5 girls aren't beautiful, but there were some real stunners that were forgotten (Ramirez, Pietri, Lugo, Gabrielle), 20:46:49 07/12/14 Sat Brie should have never left California. At least California is predictable. (NT) -- Florida is always so random., 20:49:15 07/12/14 Sat lmao I love the cut to adverts after the 4th ru. I was all #@$%% but also haha jerks! (NT) -- eloise, 20:49:25 07/12/14 Sat Woah I do not like how they did the finalists in groups (NT) -- Weird, 20:52:28 07/12/14 Sat They've been doing that for a few years now. It sucks. It takes away the suspense because the winner of the 3RU showdown knows she's going to be in the Final 2 as does the audience. I'll have to rewatch the show when it gets to youtube. After the prelim photos went up last night, my T5 was (in no order) Melissa, Brie, Glenda, Kailyn and Ashleigh. So 2 out of 5 made it. (NT) -- delilah, 21:19:03 07/12/14 Sat Wanted to add that I think some of the T5 were filler. Less competition for the favorites. (NT) -- delilah, 21:25:35 07/12/14 Sat I had #3 in 6th place-sexy girl (NT) -- fan, 22:36:13 07/12/14 Sat I'll admit that I have never really been on the Brie Gabriel bandwagon - I just don't see her as Miss USA in any way shape or form (although I used to think that about Nia too - and well, there you go), however based on the photos I saw on the Miss FL website and the photos from the arrival day (or whatever that event was) I thought for sure she was in the Top 3 of the girls competing. So what happened? Did she fall during the swimsuit competition? Did she suffer a wardrobe malfunction? I didn't watch the pageant, but I do not for the life of me understand 4 of the Top 5 including the winner. The only girl in the Top 5 photo that belongs there (IMO) is Kailyn Perez. Oh well, they can't all be Brittany Oldehoff - right? (NT) -- djm (not signed in), 13:13:16 07/14/14 Mon Brie struggled with her question, as did many of the top contenders. Brie also lacked any personality on stage. Many times she had a pissed off look on her face. Being in the audience, I was not shocked to not see her in 5. She didn't look like she wanted to be there, let alone win -- FlFan, 13:47:57 07/14/14 Mon

Subject: PROFILES/HEADSHOTS UP!!!!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:59:04 06/30/14 Mon Post by Pageant Update - Miss USA Coverage. Last edited by author: Mon June 30, 2014 09:59:38 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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All of the Teens look gorgeous. After seeing the photos, I am now hanging it up and saying that Pennsylvania might possibly be the most beautiful girl in the world. She is so gorgeous. Others that stood out to me were Alabama, California, DC, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nevada, Oklahoma, and South Carolina. SC looks like someone to me, but I can't place it. (NT) -- MJ1978, 10:15:26 06/30/14 Mon I think she looks like Sandra Bullock in her headshot. (NT) -- Tux, 11:11:31 06/30/14 Mon Maybe that is it. She isn't a very common pageant look IMO, but she is very beautiful. I think she will do well. (NT) -- MJ1978, 11:27:54 06/30/14 Mon I love SC, she has legs for days and incredible presence. Hope she does well :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 13:04:40 06/30/14 Mon Where did DC come from?!? Holy cow she's stunning. Kentucky is giving me total Lana Del Ray in her headshot and I am loving it so much. I love my home state girl, NV, so much, but i am not feeling her headshot :[ she's such a beautiful girl but this shot has all her hair in her face and I can't see her eyes which I don't like. And I MUCH prefer her smiling, she's gorgeous and fresh faced, I just wish I could real see her face. New York is a standout for me in head shots. Oklahoma is just the cutest thing ever. Pennsylvania is on a whole other level. South Carolina is looking very Brittany Oldehoff in her headshot. Not feeling Texas this year. Utah is super cute as well. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 13:23:02 06/30/14 Mon I think its best to look at the pics from Baton Rouge of these kids some photo shop here (NT) -- not the real kids, 14:52:29 06/30/14 Mon Oh no, I know. I've seen the pictures from Baton Rouge and know that a majority of these girls do not look the same in person. I was just judging purely off the headshot. However I will say that DC is still a huge frontrunner for me. Kentucky doesn't impress me in person but I do still love her headshot. South Carolina also doesn't look like her headshot too much, but I still think her headshot looks very B-Olde to me. Still not feeling TX in person or in headshot. Still think Utah is super cute in person. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 15:02:26 06/30/14 Mon The interesting thing with Utah was she was 1RU at Miss Utah MAO a few months before she won UT Teen USA. Yet she still has this awesome teen vibe and never once have I thought she looked too old for the competition. (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:13:02 06/30/14 Mon Oh yes I saw that!! Definitely interesting! And she absolutely looks like a teen to me. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 23:45:21 06/30/14 Mon I was at the South Carolina pageant and said then she looks like Brooke Shields (NT) -- Marcum, 22:33:44 06/30/14 Mon One of my favorite is Florida, her headshot is stunning and she is beautiful in person. Other girls that stand to me are Cali and NC both beautiful in person. Not feeling Texas. Penn is beautiful but in person very pale and washed out, not feeling the bleached white short hair. -- CrownDiva, 22:43:15 06/30/14 Mon My favorites are Texas, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, Minnesota, Nevada, Mississippi (NT) -- Phyllis, 11:01:31 07/01/14 Tue NY TEEN'S HEADSHOT SPITTING IMAGE OF A BRUNETTE DANIELLE DOTY... (NT) -- anyone else agree???, 16:03:51 07/01/14 Tue I can see that. I also thought CA looked like a brunette Chloe Hatfield (who took over as CA Teen USA when Cassidy Wolf won). (NT) -- MoNkayMaN, 16:25:48 07/01/14 Tue I recently saw a photo of Cassidy, Chloe and the current CA Teen. The 3 of them looked like sisters. They could almost be fraternal triplets. (NT) -- delilah, 21:13:06 07/01/14 Tue Also, how did I not realize that OK teen & miss are both named Brooklynne? Same spelling and everything (NT) -- !, 16:06:47 07/01/14 Tue On the Miss Teen USA website, Mississippi teen is named Airaby?? So weird LOL, how is that a name. (NT) -- Athalia, 16:32:05 07/01/14 Tue WA Teen -- A Fan, 21:06:38 07/01/14 Tue Just glanced quickly: AL, AZ, CA, CT (is she related to Logan?), IL, KY, ME, MA, MI, NJ, OH, PA. I love Ohio in her headshot - although she doesn't look like the typical TEEN winner. Also, Arkansas should just compete on the MISS level - she looks like she could be on that stage. (NT) -- djm, 02:26:11 07/02/14 Wed Yes, Sydney is Logan's younger sister! She also competed in the CT's Outstanding Teen programme like Logan and was a runner-up :) Really sweet family. (NT) -- oz-usb, 03:40:08 07/02/14 Wed My Top 5: california, mississippi, pennsylvania, arizona and dc! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 04:48:04 07/02/14 Wed My favorite is WASHINGTON! She is very beautiful, intelligent and may have the best interview skills of all contestants. She has the potential to win it all. Sad that she seems to be overlooked in this forum - but that may be because historically WA state has not performed well in the nationals. This year, however, should be special for WA state. (NT) -- Pageant Eyes, 05:49:49 07/08/14 Tue At long last, a sensible comment from someone with good judgment. You hit the nail in the head. I myself am a fan since I saw her at Baton Rouge. There is something in her that makes me look again and again. Very special teen indeed. (NT) -- A Fan, 23:47:30 07/08/14 Tue My first ever top 10 for this year: Alabama, California, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, Oklahoma. Rounding up the top 15 for now: Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, South Carolina and West Virginia. Interestingly, I do not have Pennsylvania near the top. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:58:57 07/09/14 Wed I hope Mass wins she seems to be the total package! (NT) -- Bostonian, 09:49:39 07/09/14 Wed Arkansas is totally channelling Megan Fox in her headshot photo! She's in my Top 15/16. (NT) -- Groove, 10:25:22 07/09/14 Wed Colorado, DC and Maryland all look fantastic upon first glance, at least to me. (NT) -- my pics, 12:12:07 07/09/14 Wed I'm so surprised to see little-to-no love for ALABAMA TEEN! In my opinion, she is right up there with PENNSYLVANIA in the top tier of contestants. Seeing her in person at Miss USA, I was blown away by her natural beauty. She is 100% top 5 material. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 12:48:50 07/09/14 Wed She is one of my favorites! Definitely the epitome of a teen look to me. (NT) -- MJ1978, 19:17:24 07/09/14 Wed No love for Alabama? She is in the top 4 of the most hyped girls along with Pennsylvania, California, Mississippi and deservedly so. I also adore her. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 20:17:09 07/09/14 Wed Gorgeous teens this year. WASHINGTON is a total package and should win the crown. Arkansas, OK and PA are beautiful. (NT) -- straightgurl, 00:01:29 07/11/14 Fri All the teens are amazing! Every year Teen is always more competitive than Miss, I wonder why that is (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 00:12:42 07/11/14 Fri Who is the IT girl for teen this year? (NT) -- too hard to choose!, 07:52:20 07/11/14 Fri Amazing teens, beaming!!! (NT) -- Atlantis!, 20:52:31 07/11/14 Fri My top five: WA, PA, Arkansas, CA, AL. The winner will be decided between WA and PA. But WA should win it during the final interview. (NT) -- Pageant Eyes, 21:17:30 07/13/14 Sun I agree with the poster who thinks PA may be the most beautiful girl in the world. I would put her in the same class as Olivia Culpo who I think is the most beautiful Miss in the world. (NT) -- Fan, 10:44:27 07/14/14 Mon

Subject: Miss Philippines 2014 MJ Lastimosa - i've heard she got fat, but I don't see it in this picture, I think she's ready. What do you think guys?
Author: PageantMaster [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:57:36 07/13/14 Sun https://imageshack.com/i/neiajt8j [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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You mean this?Can't see the image. -- PrettyPls, 23:22:42 07/13/14 Sun Yeah!! -- PageantMaster, 23:29:36 07/13/14 Sun

Subject: FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ADVOCATE ENVIRONMENTAL PAGEANTS.....
Author: SexyDrew82 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:41:35 07/09/14 Wed Miss Earth/Grand International United States is happening this weekend! Here are the official contestants: Upon conclusion of this pageant, all US titleholders for "Grandslam" international pageants will have been elected!! NIA SANCHEZ - Universe ELIZABETH SAFRIT - World SAMANTHA BROOKS - International ALLYN ROSE - Supranational and whomever is chosen to represent the states at Earth and Grand International! Some Notes: - Miss Ohio USA 2010, Amanda Tempel is Miss Earth Southern Ohio. - Miss Colorado USA runner up and Miss US International 2013, Andrea Neu is Miss Earth Colorado. - Miss California USA 2011 Top 20 placer, Susan Romanishin is Miss Earth Golden State. As far as the delegates go, I think there is some pretty decent competition. I'm not sure if there are preliminaries to represent a certain state/area, but I think the ones who are prepared will definitely stand out. Best of luck to all the candidates! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thanks for the info! I also noticed Michaila Leinbach (Top 10 NC 2011 and non-finalist NY 2012) and Rachel Kronish (non-finalist Cali Teen USA 2011, non-finalist Cali USA 2012, non-finalist NE USA 2014, non-finalist Cali MAO 2015. :D) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 14:41:03 07/09/14 Wed What is the age bracket for Grand Int'l? I can't find a website for them! (NT) -- Please & thank you, 16:58:43 07/09/14 Wed Delegates must be at least 17 and not older than 28 as of the Miss Grand International pageant(October). Great opportunity for those aging out of USA/America/ (NT) -- www.grandpageants.com, 21:57:10 07/09/14 Wed I thibnk the age cut off is 26/27. (NT) -- SexyDrew82, 19:14:55 07/09/14 Wed any news? (NT) -- any news?, 21:42:29 07/12/14 Sat Probably later on, I think the pageant is in Hawaii. Hope for Andrea Neu to win, I adore her, that would be her second Grand Slam pageant and Imane Obou is perfect for CO USA title. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:50:20 07/12/14 Sat THe pageant was in Hawaii last year. This year, it's in Los Angeles...and there isn't a Miss Hawaii..:( (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 01:10:15 07/13/14 Sun It strikes me that we may have a bit of a landmark day. With the last minute addition of Miss United States being a preliminary to Miss World, (correct me if I'm wrong), this may very well be the first year that the U.S. has had an official preliminary pageant for EVERY major grand slam international pageant...Universe, World, International, Earth, and promising newer pageants Supranational & Grand International. I can't tell you how much it pleases me that our American women now have an actual PAGEANT they can ENTER to compete for the U.S. title for all these great international pageants!! (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 01:46:50 07/13/14 Sun Andrea won Earth US (NT) -- Congrats, 19:54:25 07/13/14 Sun

Subject: Congrats to Ashleigh Lollie, Miss FL USA 2015. Is she the one who is studying law? Well she also won Most Photogenic, so she does have a beautiful face!!! Kailyn and Brie, PLEASE come back next year!!
Author: Dude in FL =D [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:08:39 07/12/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm really mad. Whatever no offense to her and her family/friends but that was one messed up shit. (NT) -- eloise, 21:10:10 07/12/14 Sat Got that right Eloise! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 21:11:18 07/12/14 Sat Seriously. I'll get over it but I will never forget the disappointment. (NT) -- eloise, 21:14:09 07/12/14 Sat What happened? What did I miss? I wasnt able to watch the pageant. (NT) -- jmo, 21:16:21 07/12/14 Sat You actually did not miss anything, jmo! Watching the show would be a total waste of time and nerves... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 21:20:53 07/12/14 Sat Basically, Surprising top five with 4 ok-looking forgettable girls and 1 Universe ready stunner who won interview. Stunner placed 1st ru to someone with bad hair and dress. (NT) -- eloise, 21:24:40 07/12/14 Sat Really? I enjoyed the show, it was great for a state pageant, liked Shandi, Susie et Megan as hosts as well. The top 15 was unexpected though and so was the top 5. I believe judges could be better instructed in the future, but then I could say the same about judges at the last Miss USA (especially prelims). (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:25:13 07/12/14 Sat Regarding Shandi, Susie and Megan, I totally agree with you. However, the constant disappointments as the show moved on simply ruined the entire thing, IMO... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 21:30:52 07/12/14 Sat Agree. The hosts were lovely and had great personalities. (NT) -- THERE, 22:08:17 07/12/14 Sat Megan was a beautiful surprise, she speaks very well... Oldehoff looked stunning as always, but sounded as if she were taking an oral exam in high school... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 22:18:40 07/12/14 Sat Did anyone pick Lollie as the winner? (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 21:19:10 07/12/14 Sat Yes, me! (NT) -- Harley, 00:20:48 07/13/14 Sun Me TOO! (NT) -- chexmex, 00:31:27 07/13/14 Sun ME THREE!!!! (NT) -- Crissy, 01:57:06 07/13/14 Sun I strongly considered it and didn't go with my gut and picked a favorite instead. This is my first time playing the road to. Next time, I'm going with my gut! (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:43:18 07/13/14 Sun Just because she won Miss Photogenic doesn't mean she has the most beautiful face... lol. It just mean the "panel of international press" (yaha, right?) thought she was the most beautiful. Of that top five, I'd actually give most beautiful face to Heather Martin! But still... Rachel Stacy... I just don't get it. (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:23:31 07/12/14 Sat Well by looks of it all the girls in the background were really happy that the winner was Lollie. (NT) -- That speaks volumes, 21:25:34 07/12/14 Sat The classes at the Sunshine State Institute of Clapping Sciences begin this coming Monday, at 5:00 pm... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 21:33:45 07/12/14 Sat ♥ lol now watch her win Florida's first USA crown. (NT) -- eloise, 21:35:54 07/12/14 Sat haha...that can actually happen...if ALL states mess up with their results as well... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 21:56:57 07/12/14 Sat Maybe FL USA did what FL-MAO did and read the 1st runner up and winner backwards! A girl can hope anyways! I wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy but right now I can hope! (NT) -- westtnmommy, 21:42:20 07/12/14 Sat I like her. More beautiful than the 1st ru-the 1st ru was better prepared. But she is beautiful-just part her hair on the side and get her a sexy gown(like California's black one). The 3rd ru was a complete shock to me--didn't hold a candle to Brie (NT) -- fan, 21:44:03 07/12/14 Sat I'm happy :) I almost went with her as my Road to pick, too, but decided to be safe and go with Brie. It's what I get. But I think she's going to do just fine. She has the longest of any titleholder to prepare for nationals. She stood out to me from the intro vids. (NT) -- JennNYC, 21:46:21 07/12/14 Sat You should have gone with your gut JennNYC! Agree that she will do fine. Don't see her winning USA, but I also don't think she will do a bad job. (NT) -- MJ1978, 11:43:06 07/13/14 Sun Congratulations to Ashleigh. I am disappointed that it was not Kailyn. At the beginning, I was positive it would be either Brie or Kailyn - by the end, I just knew it was Kailyn. She was perfect. Great pageant to both of my favorites! (NT) -- MJ1978, 21:46:46 07/12/14 Sat Heck... just looked it up, Ashleigh is the first Photogenic winner to win Miss FL USA since Angelia Savage in 1997!!!! That's quite a streak that's been broken. (NT) -- oz-usb, 22:03:04 07/12/14 Sat She is a Stunner! I'm glad Florida always selects first since they raise the bar so high. (NT) -- WilliamNYC, 11:49:09 07/13/14 Sun I know! That's why I feel like it's going to be a great state pageant season. The first one usually sets the bar for what the year is going to be like. I'm super excited for TX, and to see who is returning there or any potential newbies that could surprise everyone and take the whole thing in one of the most competitive states. I'm glad that there are more pageants earlier this year, and we don't have to wait until the end of October to get things rolling. (NT) -- JennNYC, 16:12:28 07/13/14 Sun WOW!! MISS FLORIDA USA 2015 IS GORGEOUS!! IMO, Florida got it right. Tweak the beauty styling a bit and Ashleigh is a Miss USA/Miss Universe 2015 contender. Lovin the sultry white gown on her. Who is the designer? WOW, WOW, WOW!! (NT) -- Caramel-blonde, 17:42:39 07/13/14 Sun

Subject: Miss FL USA Swimsuit comp...
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:22:28 07/12/14 Sat Screenshots of all the top 16 competing in SS eg... Last edited by author: Sat July 12, 2014 20:23:09 Edited 3 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm still rootin' for Melissa Ziegler, although she seemed to have lost her confidence after her little stumble during Q&A. I still think she's one of the prettiest in the group, so I hope that will prevail. (NT) -- HiJake, 20:30:07 07/12/14 Sat Note to MUO: They were able to talk to 16 girls, have 16 girls compete in swimsuit, 16 girls compete in EG, and showcase their sponsors and host location in less than two hours!!! (NT) -- HiJake, 20:39:03 07/12/14 Sat Preach! We had 3 hours this year, and I felt like the crowning for Nia was completely rushed. And they still had a way less content than pageants that are 2 hours or under. (NT) -- JennNYC, 04:02:32 07/13/14 Sun Right on, HiJake! Very, VERY good point! (NT) -- Groove, 16:41:58 07/13/14 Sun

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Subject: Cool!
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:28:51 07/07/14 Mon On July 6, Miss World announced that 2014 Miss United States Elizabeth Safrit (North Carolina) will represent USA at Miss World in London this December. As a NC girl myself I say...whoohoo!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She's beauty and she's grace... she's Miss United States... Where's William Shatner? (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 09:32:07 07/07/14 Mon This is going to sound weird but the United States crowns are so pointy they have always made me feel decidedly uncomfortable. Actually, they remind me of the Iron Throne! Youch. (NT) -- oz-usb, 09:36:15 07/07/14 Mon They are horrible! I wish the'd change them. (NT) -- Ugh, 10:08:56 07/07/14 Mon oz-usb, the crown is inspired by Miss Liberty's crown. (NT) -- Americana, 10:09:37 07/07/14 Mon Oh my gosh, I can definitely see a major resemblance. How interesting and thanks for sharing :) (NT) -- Groove, 11:40:51 07/07/14 Mon I agree. Very sinister looking. (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 14:42:56 07/08/14 Tue She may just crack the semis as a reward by Julia Morley for the publicity & attention she's generating in the US. She'll be facing real tough competition in London from younger and more beautiful ladies from more than 100 countries. (NT) -- Politics in Pageantry!, 10:59:28 07/07/14 Mon The last NC girl at Miss World, Rebekah Revels made it to the top 10, I think it was 2002 if I am not mistaken. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 11:08:46 07/07/14 Mon Kristen Motil, but with a nicer and more attractive mouth. I think she'll do well. (NT) -- Groove, 11:39:59 07/07/14 Mon She looks NOTHING like Kristen Motil -- Ashly, 11:59:38 07/07/14 Mon IDK, I definitely see a resemblance in these photos, especially the mouth. (NT) -- Groove, 12:36:36 07/07/14 Mon For her national costume I'd luv to see Elizabeth wear a 'Gone with the Wind'-inspired Southern gown similar to what Chelsea Cooley wore in Miss UNIVERSE. (NT) -- Southern gal, 11:57:27 07/07/14 Mon I can't agree. I don't want to see anyone do what Chelsea did at MU. She was far and away better at MUSA. (NT) -- ., 05:09:11 07/08/14 Tue She is pretty but Miss World like really young looking girls. She wont go to far. Best of luck to her anyways. (NT) -- Cal, 12:29:39 07/07/14 Mon She is not winning material, but I think MW org will want to solidify its new US franchise and will award her with a top 10 finish. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 12:48:51 07/07/14 Mon I think she is beautiful, and could have a good chance of doing well at Miss World. However she definitely would need to change her styling. Someone said she was only 22? She is not styled like a young 22 year old. If the Miss United States org can take the time and money to prepare her (which I would sure hope they would if they went into an agreement like this with Miss World), then she could do well. A slightly sexier gown, hair down, slim the face just a little, I think she could really surprise everyone. Maybe not as sexy as Miss USA pageant, but not quite as conservative as Miss America. She is looking more Miss America to me right now. But, I think she has loads of potential. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:59:06 07/07/14 Mon Who is the beauty in the black gown crowning her? How come it's not Olivia Jordan? (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 14:04:43 07/07/14 Mon That's Candiace Dillard, Miss US 2013. Olivia Jordan didn't win this title last year, she was appointed. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 14:36:55 07/07/14 Mon How come Candiace didn't compete? (NT) -- MadeYaLook (NSI), 22:32:44 07/07/14 Mon This is the first year the Miss United States will go to Miss World. Before the US rep was chosen by a modeling agency. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:46:13 07/08/14 Tue DO the titleholders get to keep the thorny & spikey crown?!!? (NT) -- Crowning Glory, 17:07:07 07/07/14 Mon She's seriously so beautiful, I hope she brings back the Miss World Crown to The USA. I had the pleasure of meeting her back in November and she has the brains to go along with that beauty. Congrats on a well deserved win Miss Safrit! (NT) -- Peace, 17:16:32 07/07/14 Mon How does this system work? I do not know much about it, (NT) -- Are the state titles given at a pageant or as a delegate? If you win can you still compete at a Miss america state pageant. Trying to figure out how legit it is., 18:45:59 07/07/14 Mon Most of the titles are at large, if not almost every single title here that competed. There is nothing wrong with that, but yes, you can just buy the right to compete at the national title. Maybe some states have state titles, and who knows if this franchise holds the rights to hold the state pageants, or the MWO will allow it. I am sure the rules will all come out soon. (NT) -- jmo, 19:00:27 07/07/14 Mon I know Nevada has a state pageant to choose their state delegates, but I do not know about all of the states. I am sure some many delegates do just buy their title outright, kind of like some US International titles. Its very interesting how some states hold a pageant for this while others do not. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 19:56:08 07/07/14 Mon Well the southern and eastern us are just more pageant friendly and more popular than say the west coast Wa/Or/Id those nw states would be near impossible to pull a pageant with even 30 contestants in it. We are just not a real pageant type over here. I really wish it were different though and that may show through in how some outcomes in those states are. (NT) -- jmo, 22:46:17 07/07/14 Mon Lisa Forbes runs Missouri , Kansas , Nebraska and Oklahoma pageants. Lisa is former Miss Kansas USA 2004. (NT) -- EbonyDiva, 23:38:29 07/07/14 Mon I like her! A more youthful look would suit her, I think she has the potential of looking freaking amazing. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 19:37:50 07/07/14 Mon She reminds me a bit of Shannon Dresser, the baton twirler from Hawaij. (NT) -- HiJake, 00:37:35 07/08/14 Tue NC and SC have a state pageant, and the title holders did a fabulous job at Nationals! WTG! (NT) -- CC, 05:05:46 07/08/14 Tue She's only 22? Wow. Yeah, she could definitely use some new styling to youngin her up! (NT) -- celia Fo'Realia, 08:36:30 07/08/14 Tue She is very pretty... But I agree with others, her styling seems a bit off. But hey, she won! So who am i to comment. However, agreed she needs to freshen up a bit. She looks much older than 22. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:23:04 07/08/14 Tue They allowed two GORGEOUS women from Ohio and Texas (Crystal Stewarts twin) to not advance to the top 10 and they were drop dead stunning in swimsuit. I do not understand this pageant one bit. Same in teen, crowned an average girl who couldnt walk down the stairs to save her life (no poise) to win over beautiful and graceful girls from other states. I don't get it and won't be recommending it to anyone anytime soon. (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 02:41:32 07/09/14 Wed She looks like a man. (NT) -- Sorry, 00:30:23 07/10/14 Thu GET REAL..Seriously? A man? Just be happy for the girl, she will represent this country well at the Miss World Pageant and I for one think she is very beautiful and like no other woman I've ever seen before. She has such a Miss Universe look that I think she can take this title in Decemwber (NT) -- Sorry Not Sorry, 01:00:10 07/10/14 Thu Sorry, in December..typing to fast:) (NT) -- Sorry Not Sorry, 01:02:42 07/10/14 Thu There's a nice pic. of her in a bikini on the Miss World website. MW travels to other pageants for their crowings. Not all, but some. Sorry I haven't learned to post yet. Have a great weekend. (NT) -- Smile Pretty, 16:58:16 07/10/14 Thu GuyRex, the most successful Gay partnership & duo in pageantry, were the BEST American license holders & organizers ever for Miss WORLD-USA! (NT) -- Please please bring them back from retirement! - The United States need them., 02:25:35 07/10/14 Thu She looks like Meagan Fox!! Good luck to her!! (NT) -- KansasKat, 18:06:38 07/10/14 Thu The pageant has 38 state pageants currently. -- ___fan, 01:39:53 07/12/14 Sat She was my Road To pick a few years ago when she was 4th runner up in North Carolina! (NT) -- SanFranGuy, 03:34:47 07/13/14 Sun

Subject: Some Fadils of Nia
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:51:37 07/09/14 Wed Last edited by author: Wed July 09, 2014 10:46:46 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I like! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 09:05:02 07/09/14 Wed Nia. Nina is some other pageant's winner. (NT) -- ..,., 09:48:15 07/09/14 Wed These are gorgeous (NT) -- MJ1978, 10:26:11 07/09/14 Wed Very pretty! She is jumping right in, and I like what I see thus far. I dont adhere to some saying she will be a clapper at Miss Universe. Thats ridiculous. I dont have her winning right now, but I can easily see her in the top 5. Definitely top 10. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:01:38 07/09/14 Wed Agreed. No way in the world do I see her clapping. Personally, I think she is beyond gorgeous and I see her doing extremely well between natural beauty, preparation, and desire. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 12:56:20 07/09/14 Wed She looks stunning here! And she can be a sassy little thing, she definitely won't clap (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 13:39:31 07/09/14 Wed i think she is going to do phenomenal although i do not like these photos fadil continues to produce the same stuff over and over!!! (NT) -- love nia, 15:59:20 07/09/14 Wed These are the best pics I've seen of her. Take Fadil out of the equation, these shots are fantastic! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:39:15 07/10/14 Thu Sorry folks, but she will fall into classic Miss USA pattern. Went all out for the national title, got it, then realized she has the same deal as Miss Universe already (if not better). She will not clap because she is Miss USA and no trainwreck like she who shall not be named so MUO will throw her in the mix. Plus, she is part Latina and the Telemundo audience will love anything with a Hispanic connection. Top 10 but no way will she be in Top 5 with the ladies who will undoubtedly be far hungrier. (NT) -- Yes, I know about Olivia Culpo. Even she wasn't hungry for Miss Universe. As with all of Olivia's 3 pageants, she was in the right place at the right time. Her victories are the exception, not the norm., 17:04:33 07/09/14 Wed Thank you, Negative Nancy... But I think your theories on virtually everything are off here... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:40:32 07/10/14 Thu what ice said (NT) -- dink, 02:00:17 07/13/14 Sun I LOVE me some Nia Sanchez, but these photos do not wow me. I think back to Erin Bradys shoot with Fadil (the one of her in the big black dress sitting down, stunning, her headshot that hung in the MUO office, fierce) and Olivia (just perfection no matter what), and these fall short. I do not think it is Nias fault, rather the Fadil photography is getting tired. Does she look beautiful in these? Yes. But the last two Miss USAs had MIND BLOWINGLY (yes, i made that a word) fierce/gorgeous/amazing shots, and this one is just meh. I hope there are more to come. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 17:52:52 07/09/14 Wed (NT) -- Sxoxo, 22:54:52 07/09/14 Wed Now these ^ are fierce. Love. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 23:50:37 07/09/14 Wed I don't know - there is something about these shots that seem sort of flat to me. I don't think it's Nia necessarily, but rather the styling and the photographer. I know there will be better shots to come so I am not worried, just sort of bored. (NT) -- djm, 00:13:09 07/10/14 Thu I kind of agree. They look the same as all of the other Nia pictures I've seen - could have just photoshopped that crown right in. Fadil is talented and does beautiful work, but has obviously has a formula that he uses on every single girl. Its kind of like David Bartley back in the 90's, and Ladd in the 00's, and now you have Fadil and Select Studios of the 2010's churning out cookie cutter images. (NT) -- Bored too., 09:02:51 07/10/14 Thu I feel as though Nia's candid photos are better than these (NT) -- Same dead face in every picture, 16:19:09 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: I have an intriguing question that I would love opinions on, opinions not bashing please. We are seeing some girls coming out as gay in the pageant system. I for one support being who you are. Is their any option for these women to compete in the Mrs. Pageants if they have a civil union? Do you think rules should be changed to allow this?
Author: pageant fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:44:35 07/09/14 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That's an interesting questions. As more states make it legal, and society in general becomes more accepting, I think this is an issue that could very well come in the near future. I haven't seen a Mrs. Pageant contract in a while, but if your state legally allows 2 women to marry, I can't imagine your state Mrs. pageant could ban you from competition. (NT) -- ., 16:29:00 07/10/14 Thu I've never seen a Mrs. pageant contract but personally I think it should be allowed if they are in a state that only allows civil unions, but if the state allows marriage then I think the requirement should be legally married. It probably (I can't say for sure though) has never come up, but I'm sure it will in the future. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 16:44:38 07/10/14 Thu I would imagine that if same sex marriage is legal in that state, they would be required to accept women married to other women. Anything else would be discrminatory plain & simple. They'd never stand up to a legal challenge. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 20:56:18 07/10/14 Thu That's not entirely true. To violate the constitutional fundamental right of marriage, the entity in question has to be a state actor or public entity. Pageants are all private entities. Think of private clubs like the Augusta golf club.. Augusta only admitted high profile women to its membership because of public pressure, not because of any law. Think of Donald Sterling. He was fired by the NBA, a private business, because of an internal policy against racism - not because he broke any law. People are racist all the time unfortunately and nothing happens. Another example would be all-girls schools or all-boys schools. They can exist if they're private. Public ones become government actors if they get enough funding and so non-coed schools would be unconstitutional there because of sex discrimination. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 21:23:17 07/10/14 Thu But do you not imagine there would be a very vocal & public outpouring of support (pressure and legal support) coming forward to any woman who said "I wasn't allowed to compete for Mrs. Whatever because I am married to woman, which is legal in my state." that state Mrs. Pageant wouldn't have a PRAYER of being able to uphold their decision in 2014. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 14:24:12 07/11/14 Fri I completely agree with you there. There'd be absolutely a massive outcry from people on both sides and it'd be a bloody media mess. Bouncing vapid talking heads like Nancy Grace would have a field day. But (for the most part) people can still invite and be selective about who they want in their club/pageant/frat, as long as they're private and not government subsidized. There continue to be all black and all asian frats/sororities to this day (which could be construed as racist because they're not all-inclusive), and yet they're allowed to exist because they're private, which is a legitimate and not an infringement on anyone's rights. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 03:06:45 07/12/14 Sat I love this. Obviously, Equality! However, as great as the acceptance is, I don't see married lesbians stampeding to join pageants just because the door is open. Am I wrong to think so? (NT) -- eloise, 01:20:59 07/12/14 Sat we live in an era where broader civil rights for same sex couples are becoming the norm. like a few peeps have said, if it's legally recognized in your state/country, hitched lesbians should be allowed to compete in mrs pageants (NT) -- dink, 01:57:05 07/13/14 Sun

Subject: Miss Hawaii USA & Miss Hawaii Teen USA

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Date Posted: 01:16:29 07/13/14 Sun

Just want to give a shout out to any Hawaii ladies reading USB. It's not too late to become the next Miss Hawaii USA & Miss Hawaii Teen USA. I spent the morning at a workshop where pageant & runway walk was taught to the contestants, but there's plenty more to come!
Entries are accepted until August 31 for the Nov. 23rd pageant at the Ihilani Resort in West Oahu. It's gonna be a GREAT season!! Entry information at www.misshawaiipageant.com.
(And...yes, I am back on the Miss Hawaii USA committee under the new directorship of Alicia Jones, former Miss Hawaii USA!)

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Subject: This year reminds me of 2012....
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:26:08 07/12/14 Sat Miss Florida USA 2012... totally weird top 15, huge favourite (Annilie) left in top 15 as well as other top contenders, top five looks like it's been stacked for someone (Melissa Ramirez) ... but then she ends up 1RU Miss Florida USA 2015... totally weird top 15, huge favourite (Brie) left in top 15 as well as other top contenders, top five looks like it's been stacked for someone (Kailyn Perez) ... but then she ends up 1RU [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What goes on when this happens? Also, I'd have chosen the middle girl. (NT) -- eloise, 21:28:32 07/12/14 Sat Amanda Hasselvander in the middle is the only girl from that top 5 that had some pageant experience before, 4 were newbies. I was very surprised by that year's results. I believe Brie is 25 and has one year of eligibility left, I think Florida is way too risky for her, because even if she does her best, results are just too random. I would advise her to go to a smaller state, NV could be a great option for her. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:41:24 07/12/14 Sat I'd like to see the ff hop to another state (not all to NV though lol): Linette \|De Los Santos, Melissa Ziegler, Lake Eola, and definitely definitely Kailyn. (NT) -- eloise, 21:44:30 07/12/14 Sat Random is right. This years 3rd runner up came out of left field(look at 2012 4th-same thing) 2nd runner up should have won 2012 (NT) -- fan, 21:48:48 07/12/14 Sat I thought the 1st runner up could be MIss Universe. I thought the winner was, well, not my choice. (NT) -- jmo, 22:15:57 07/12/14 Sat I liked Karina more than others did, until her name got dragged into Sheena-gate as the one who started it. I wasn't surprised at her exclusion at Miss USA, but her win in FL didn't completely shock me. From this top 5, Amanda would have been my pick and she is on my list in FL of girls that got away. I never got the hype with Annilie. (NT) -- JennNYC, 00:21:56 07/13/14 Sun

Subject: Depending on what you hear, the Katherine Webb-AJ McCarron wedding is today or Sat. Click in for a link to the coverage from AL.com.
Author: Anon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:53:45 07/11/14 Fri http://search.al.com/Katherine+Webb/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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No photos yet of the happy couple, they were screened out by guests leaving the church. CW says they have an exclusive deal with some media entity. (NT) -- Anon, 23:34:22 07/12/14 Sat From what I've seen on IG her bridesmaids includes Natalie Pack and Jessica Ahlberg (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 23:41:05 07/12/14 Sat And Miss AL Teen USA Peyton Brown :) big group of bridesmaids! (NT) -- oz-usb, 23:48:17 07/12/14 Sat I didn't recognize her since she looks so grown up! She's a beauty (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 00:05:54 07/13/14 Sun

Subject: Jasmine Murray is the 3rd Black Woman to win Miss Mississippi (Miss America).
Author: a fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:50:09 07/12/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: :)
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:27:08 07/12/14 Sat Ashleigh makes history as the first winner from the Panhandle since 2006! Last edited by author: Sat July 12, 2014 22:27:29 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Panhandle has some of the best beaches in Florida and all of the US, absolutely amazing white sand! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 22:29:58 07/12/14 Sat

Subject: An observation
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:37:35 07/12/14 Sat Ashleigh = lovechild of Julianna Erdesz and Jesica Ahlberg [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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lmao you trying to hurt me? First, the FL dismay, now you're reminding me of my love Jesica who did not advance to the top 10? criesalot (NT) -- eloise, 21:41:37 07/12/14 Sat* Definitely! She's got the Erdesz eyes! Thanks for pointing that out because I was about to compare it to the Guidice housewife. Lol. (NT) -- HiJake, 22:08:25 07/12/14 Sat She does look like Ahlberg. (NT) -- MJ1978, 22:12:59 07/12/14 Sat Ya'll need to see the bigger picture. She looks like Miss Ohio from 2013 with the yellow dress, HAWTTTTT!!!!!!! (NT) -- chexmex, 22:14:37 07/12/14 Sat I think she looks like Ashlea Gutierrez, the girl that competed in Texas a couple of times. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:19:11 07/12/14 Sat Yes! (NT) -- oz-usb, 22:26:30 07/12/14 Sat She has the look. I think come pageant time (whenever Miss USA is) she will be a strong contender for the crown. I feel like we're off to a good start, and this outcome has me even more excited for the upcoming state pageants. (NT) -- JennNYC, 22:19:40 07/12/14 Sat

Subject: Miss FL USA 2015 Top 5: Heather Martin, Jessica Voight, Lacey Morgan, Ashleigh Lollie and (whew) Kailyn Perez. CRAZY TOP 5!!! NO BRIE!!! WTH???
Author: Dude in FL =D [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:46:12 07/12/14 Sat I had, Perez, Lollie, Lugo, Rogers, and BRIE!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Shut the front door!!! (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 20:48:40 07/12/14 Sat Brie looked kind of out of it, so I'm not surprised she didn't advance. Too focused, maybe? (NT) -- HiJake, 20:54:39 07/12/14 Sat Brie's body, hair, and walk were fabulous, but the look on her face sorta gave me a "i'm over this" vibe. I had hoped she'd advance to the top 5, but this just goes to show that different night....different outcome. (NT) -- Celia Fo'realia, 20:59:20 07/12/14 Sat I had Brie to win. Thank goodness they picked the most beautiful out of the weak 5. How the 3rd runner up got that high over her I have no idea. But the winner is beautiful! (NT) -- fan, 21:00:44 07/12/14 Sat Brie looked horrible. She looked tired and worn out. Perez was stand out and I didnt even know who she was until I watched the webcast. (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 21:06:13 07/12/14 Sat Didn't get this T5 at all. Only Ashleigh and Kailyn belonged there IMO. My screen blacked out after T16 did their gown stroll. Did not get to see the announcement of the T5 (a shocker, IMO) or the announcement of the winner. Ashleigh will do fine, but I think she needs a brighter makeup palate. Congrats to her. (NT) -- delilah, 21:07:42 07/12/14 Sat

Subject: Miss Venezuela
Author: MoNkayMaN [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:18:03 07/11/14 Fri With so much success at Miss Universe, I'd be very curious to know which Miss VZ's surprised Osmel and performed significantly better or worse than he expected. You have to think he goes into each pageant with a pretty specific idea of how he thinks his girl will do. I'd be interested to know if any of his MU crowns were COMPLETELY unexpected, even by him, and which girls he thought would win but didn't even come close. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I read that Osmel didn't have high hopes for Mariangel Ruiz since she was rebellious towards him and went against his plans for her. This explains the great transformation from looking overdone when she won Miss Venezuela to showing up at Miss Universe in a total anti-Venezuela fresh and natural look. (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 19:19:17 07/11/14 Fri Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! (NT) -- MoNkayMaN, 19:25:53 07/11/14 Fri That's really interesting! They look like two totally different girl's, I much prefer her unpattified Universe appearance :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 08:39:06 07/12/14 Sat Oh 2003, and Mariangel arrived to the pageant late that year because of some weird currency issue that I still don't understand. Apparently the organization couldn't fund her ??? so I believe the Panamanian govt got involved because it didn't feel right hosting a Miss Universe without Venezuela competing. Strange indeed. Even stranger was that Amelia Vega trained under Osmel (as did a few other countries). After that, he stopped training other countries' reps. (NT) -- Mariangel had a more patty look for prelims (hair up). I think I recall from somewhere that she rebelled against Osmel and wore the straight wig you are looking at in the above pic. If I recall, she actually had it shipped in from Miami while she was at the pageant., 11:36:02 07/12/14 Sat I think Venezuela 2000 was not favored as well, and was also first runner up. (NT) -- Alyssa's Pinoy Fan, 20:08:03 07/11/14 Fri Mariangel had my favorite dress with my favorite walk in my favorite evening gown presentation in a miss universe pageant. that year was memorable for alot of reasons and dresses, but this is by and far my favorite miss venezuela presentation, thought she might pull it off on the end, but the domincan amazon won out in the end. (NT) -- Texas Freak, 20:52:13 07/11/14 Fri I heard that Alicia Machado was not a favorite of Osmel either. (NT) -- ., 21:17:29 07/11/14 Fri As noted before, he wasn't a fan of Mariangel Ruiz--she was chosen by a jury of former Miss Venezuelas to mark the 50th anniversary of the pageant, and it came after the previous year's girls to MU and MW were said to be total "fixes." In his defense, only a few observers even had her in the top 10 of Miss Venezuela that year. He liked both Stefania Fernandez and Molly Isler but was surprised by both of them, especially Molly (they are open about that). And of course, Alicia Machado tops the list for most shocking victory...I think he was at a hotel and nearly had a coronary when she won, while Carolina Izsak was the biggest surprise on the other end. Dayana's win was expected but recollection is that Mexico (Elisa Naguera) gave him a bit of a scare in the prelims. He expected better placements for Eva Ekvall, Carolina Indriago and Ana Karina (as did most, I think, before the actual pageant). (NT) -- MB108, 21:24:00 07/11/14 Fri It's also interesting about Mariangel because while he did an incredible transformation with Cynthia Lander the year before (probably one of the greatest prep jobs ever done in the history of the pageant, and smart of him to choose her over her runner-up who was a ringer for Denise Quinones), her styling was everything to her placement and it was apparently all her. She broke the decades-long tradition of white/metallic/light gowns, and he wanted her hair up and makeup harsher. Recall a lot of people thought she wouldn't place, including him, after semifinals, but she really did a very good job being bullheaded on her style. (NT) -- MB108, 21:28:02 07/11/14 Fri Oh, I ADORED Carolina Indriago! (NT) -- MoNkayMaN, 12:23:30 07/12/14 Sat There was one year when VZ sent the winner to Miss World and the RU went to MU because they kept finishing 2nd at MU. Ironically, the RU also finished 1st RU! (NT) -- ureka smoke, 07:31:34 07/12/14 Sat Other way around--Veronica Schneider and Cristina Dieckmann were shut out of MW, which was taken as a demand by Morley that Osmel send the winner. Martina Thorogood, Miss Venezuela 1999, therefore went to MW and finished second. For a number of reasons, Osmel did not want to send her or Norkys Batista, her runner-up, to Miss Universe and instead held the "emergency pageant" Miss Bolivarian Republic of Vzla, which Claudia Moreno (who was something like seventh behind Martina and Norkys) won. And then she too finished behind India :). (NT) -- MB108, 11:04:02 07/12/14 Sat Thank you MB10! I knew there was some drama with one of the pageants! (NT) -- ureka smoke, 11:19:13 07/12/14 Sat If you are speaking of Martina Thorogood in 1999, that is not what happened. Osmel decided the winner of the 1999 pageant would compete at both Miss World 1999 and then Miss Universe 2000. For some reason or another, Miss Universe wouldn't accept Martina Thorogood. At the time, rumor was that they wanted the actual winner of her national pageant to compete. The gorgeous runner_up to Thorogood was not allowed to compete in her place. So a dinky version of Miss Venezuela was held for Miss Universe 2000. Claudia Moreno (who was not a runner-up to Thorogood, just a semifinalist) won. For a few years after then, this two pageant system continued. Ironically, it resumed after Venezuela won the Miss World title in 2011. Seems like either Morley or Trump or both don't want the second-rate winners from powerhouse Venezuela. (NT) -- However, countries like South Africa, France, Russia, Switzerland, etc. send one winner to both. On the other Philippines now has a separate pageant for its rep and has done phenomenally since then. Seems like a fishy double standard., 11:25:41 07/12/14 Sat It's a very fishy double standard from Morley, especially now that the pageant has been forced to truly split into two (i.e., a totally separate casting, versus 2001-2002 where "Miss World Venezuela" was really just a preliminary to Miss Universe--Lupita did the same in Mexico those years). MUO was more fair--I don't think they actually rejected Martina in 2000. Other nat'l directors complained, but if Osmel really wanted her to go, she could simply have disclaimed her placement in Miss World if she won Universe (it's not like Morley would have sued to force her to become Miss World if something happened to Yukta Mookhey). The story these days is that Osmel did not want her or Norkys to go for a combination of other reasons, and hence cooked up the Miss RB Vzla contest. There I think he did favor Claudia, although Maria Laura Lugo (another SF behind Martina) was also one of his "likes." (NT) -- MB108, 11:35:51 07/12/14 Sat Also, while there were likely some different reasons why Osmel didn't want Martina to go to Universe, that's not to say he didn't like her. He thought she would be Miss World, period, and probably the greatest one in history. Five or six of her competitors at Miss Venezuela told the media "we are running for second place" during and after the pageant. It was an insanely amazing year for Venezuela (probably six or seven potential Miss Universes in that group), IMO the best year after 2011 (Vanessa Goncalves'/Ivian Sarcos' class) and a truly stunning national pageant. Recommend everyone get it on tape if they can. (NT) -- MB108, 11:44:02 07/12/14 Sat Yes Osmel wasn't really that excited with Venezuela 2000 because he was all about Martina (World 99) that year. The Miss Venezuela 2000 was a last minute pageant with rejects because Osmel was somewhat pissed that MUO denied Martina for MU2000. He certainly had higher hopes for Eva (2001), the usual transbot with Cynthia (2002). Mariangel (2003) was already mentioned. He was surprised that Ana (2004) missed the first cut and revert to more natural styling for Monica (R.I.P 2005) and Ly (2007). Osmel is pretty much hands on with all Miss Venezuelas except for Jictzad (2006) because she was just a complete mess right from the get go in Vegas. I believe that Osmel wasn't too fond of her. (NT) -- Banalities, 11:05:04 07/12/14 Sat 2006 was in Los Angeles. Yes, Osmel did little to help that poor girl prepare. I was at the pageant and saw her crying in the lobby after the pageant. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 20:37:06 07/12/14 Sat I thought Miss World wouldn't allow Martina to compete at Miss Universe because she had obligations as the first runner up? (NT) -- HiJake, 16:16:47 07/12/14 Sat this one: (NT) -- eloise, 16:40:28 07/12/14 Sat I saw a video On youtube from A tv show that aired 2 wks ago on venevision plus in which they had pageant experts chime in about miss venezuela 2005 which jickzad won. The guy that trained susan carrizo (miss world vlza 2005) said there was a lot of racism that year. They did not want a black girl to win and both jictzad and susan were said to be the possible top 2. The reason jictzad won was because there was a rumor that miss carabobo that year "bought" the crown. So the MV organization decided to have a panel of judges comprised strictly of actors and actresses from venevision -- Franny, 18:47:55 07/12/14 Sat Carolina Perpetuo a famous actress and ex MV contestant was completely against miss carabobo, as were the other judges. Even though none of the judges voted for her in any phase of the competition, miss carabobo still made it to the top 5. So carolina perpetuo (she herself admitted this) went to susana djim who was the head judge and told her if either carabobo or distrito capital win (both girls were rumored to have bought the crown) make it to the top 3 or win, they would boycott the pageant. As miss carabobo competed in finals night all of the judges gave her a clear THUMBS DOWN whenever she would look at them. So they all thought both Susan carrizo and jictzad were the clear winners. Jictzad herself was interviewed on the show and said osmel would constantly put her down, would call her "black" and tell her she was fat (even though we all know she was a professional athlete). -- Franny, 18:50:56 07/12/14 Sat Osmel however did like susan carrizo and trained her more than jictzad and thought she would do well in miss world, but she went unplaced. Jictzad also said osmel forced her to live in the miss venezuela house and refused to giver her the car she won ( which i remember clearly during her reign jictzad gave an interview stating this). -- Franny, 18:52:44 07/12/14 Sat

Subject: Miss Universe 2013 ending not seen in the US (first time seeing this unedited ending). Seemed like for a good 10 seconds neither Spain or Venezuela knew who won! I think because of broadcast timing, the announcement and crowning was very rushed and it may have been too loud in the theater....
Author: Qban [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:26:00 07/11/14 Fri http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnuuqTbEzyQ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This crowning was so bad. It's the big moment and this is how they dod it?! I blame the hosts though, the way he said it was very rushed. (NT) -- Athalia, 06:59:41 07/11/14 Fri That crowning was a mess, but Gabriela's reaction was so cute once she realized that she won! It looks like she thought Patricia won. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:13:47 07/11/14 Fri It's all MUOs fault for starting that annoying thing of not announcing the first runner-up first, then Miss Universe. Half the time they say "the first runner-up is whoever", the other half they say "Miss Universe is whoever!". Please stop this MUO..ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS say ,as Bob Barker used to.."I shall announce the name of the first runner-up FIRST, and THEN Miss Universe.......the first runner-up is Miss whoever...." That is how it should always be done. And, btw, have the finnal two FACE the audience, not each other...so annoying. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 14:19:01 07/11/14 Fri Yep. Every word that Tiki said. Now the girls face each other, the crowning takes 2 seconds, and then credits roll. I get times have changed, but bringing back the basics needs to happen. (NT) -- jmo, 15:10:15 07/11/14 Fri Plus, while the winner should be having her moment one of the hosts is mentioning the 1st-runner up as an afterthought. Almost as bad as the double crownings in some of the states. (NT) -- Distracting., 16:45:34 07/11/14 Fri My pet peeve is when they end the show before the girls get to congratulate the winner (Miss USA 2001 comes to mind - worst crowing ever) (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 16:22:41 07/11/14 Fri What a difference 5 seconds edited out can turn a memorable crowning reaction from a winner into the most boring reaction seen by the NBC TV audience. I also agree with all the comments. I don't care for the way they announce the winner first, since the first runner up doesn't get any kind of moment And let the winner have a long walk rather than the one side of the stage to the other and then the girls mob her. Even bring back the throne on top of the stairs on center stage. And have the credits roll over the stage scene rather than coming to an abrupt end and then we see credits and ads for upcoming shows. I loved when back in da day the credits would roll and you can still see all the girls congratulating the winner and can tell if the winner was well liked or not. Good example, when Kenya Moore was crowned in 93, you can tell she wasn't well liked by the other girls just by the way they hugged her quickly and then walked away (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 18:59:18 07/11/14 Fri I would love if they brought back the throne! I also want them to interview the winner right after she's crowned. Just a quick "how does it feel?" (NT) -- FutureMiss, 23:49:32 07/11/14 Fri This was the moment I knew I was going to be a Molly fan even though I wanted Spain to win. I really loved Molly that night. Her smile and vibe were so genuine. Plus her dress was amzg. (NT) -- eloise, 00:59:26 07/12/14 Sat Maybe if they extend MU to 3 hrs like they did Miss USA, then they can add these things back. Is that so much to ask? (NT) -- Ciao500, 01:09:54 07/12/14 Sat It is so annoying now that the winner does not get to walk after being crowned. "The thunder from Down Under" comes to mind. It looks so great when the winner gets her walk after being crowned. Now I don get it why this doesnt happen anymore. (NT) -- Sifiso, 12:34:24 07/12/14 Sat I watched an online stream so this was the version that I saw. It really was a mess, but a really cute reaction nonetheless. (NT) -- HiJake, 16:08:34 07/12/14 Sat

Subject: Miss Florida USA 2015 Registration Day Photos
Author: Qban [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:18:26 07/08/14 Tue http://www.local10.com/news/miss-florida-usa-registration-day-photos/26848060 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thanks for posting Qban! A stand out to me in these pics and the Flickr photostream pics is Kassandra Montandon Miss South Miami. Has she ever competed before? Beautiful girl. Good luck to all the contestants! (NT) -- Crissy, 15:49:51 07/09/14 Wed If anyone is interested the coverage for Miss Florida arrivals is on www.flicker.com/photos/missforidausa/ I must say that the coverage is amazing and the pictures are constantly being updated. LOVING THIS!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Crissy, 15:54:23 07/09/14 Wed Thanks for the photos. I have 3 favorites. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 17:02:29 07/09/14 Wed Who are your faves? (NT) -- Crissy, 17:22:36 07/09/14 Wed Brie Gabrielle, Anh Do, and Natalie Carbonell (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 15:48:59 07/10/14 Thu Wow, either these are INCREDBILY terrible photos of the girls, or this is really what they look like, which is what I assume considering its just a regular photo with no smoke and mirrors. Honestly I only found one girl to be of any potential, and that was Kailyn Perez, with Brie Gabrielle tailing behind, and even that is a stretch for me. I know girls pull out all the stops for the big stage, but man, the girl that wins Miss Florida USA and hopes to win Miss USA and potentially Miss Universe, I would expect to see some WOW. And I just didnt at all. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 17:48:06 07/09/14 Wed I have 4 favs or the crown: Brie Gabrielle (my #1 fav for the crown), Anh Do (who is a stunning woman of Asian decent; do you guys think FL would crown her?), Annie McFarland & Kailyn Perez (NT) -- MsS♥, 18:42:44 07/09/14 Wed Anh Do is a pageant veteran (former Miss Vietnam Florida), is doing her Master's Degree, very well-spoken, and obvious very fit and beautiful. She has the whole package, and I'm wondering if Florida would crown her too. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 15:51:20 07/10/14 Thu These pics are very telling. Brie doesn't have very much competition. Some of these girls have new boobies too. Ladies bigger isn't always better and give them time to settle before the competition. (NT) -- Bmyvalentine (not logged in), 18:57:03 07/09/14 Wed From these photos, my standout was Natalie Carbonell. With that being said, I think that Brie Gabrielle, Anh Do, and Kailyn Perez are also very pretty. Those four stood out the most to me. Prior to this, though, Natalie was not one of my picks. She looked great at check-in! (NT) -- MJ1978, 18:58:47 07/09/14 Wed Oh my goodness, I really cannot understand how Linette placed 2nd runner up last year. Meanwhile, Vanessa Ferbeyre & Cristina Neal didn't even make Top 16. Yes, I know I wasn't there and have no idea how they perform on stage, how toned they are, etc., but come on now. sigh OK, I'm done. (NT) -- Groove, 19:21:48 07/09/14 Wed HELLO!!!!!!!!!!My Home State better not screw this up this Year! (NT) -- chexmex, 20:35:35 07/09/14 Wed Hey, B-Olde did a fab job this year! IMO, your state hardly screwed up ;) Have you been to any of the pageants? If so, who are your faves? Mine are Anh Do, BRIE!!!!!, Ashleigh Lollie (googled images of her and she looks like a def contender), Kailyn & Melissa R. (NT) -- Groove, 14:25:18 07/10/14 Thu I know, but after 2012, I am still scarred. Top 5 are Brie, Glenda, Kailyn, Rachel, and about 5 others. I would be happy with any one of these girls winning. Unfortunately I have not been to any pageants, but Crissy and I always watch and cheer together:) (NT) -- chexmex, 17:59:11 07/10/14 Thu One of my absolute favorite things about this board is Chex Mex's firece loyalty to the home state of Florida :) It does not matter who is crowned. Chex Mex will suppport, protect and defend until the end. I love it! xoxo (NT) -- jmo, 18:38:39 07/10/14 Thu AWHHHHHHH, Thank You! I am like a dog, loyal and a bit messy:) (NT) -- chexmex, 21:09:15 07/10/14 Thu My favorite is Melissa Ramirez, followed by Kailyn, Brie and Anh. I would love to see Leeza Ovalle make T15 despite her horrible headshot. I also think Kassandra Montandon is very cute, but not ready yet. Carbonell is adorable, but she's short. (NT) -- delilah, 20:53:55 07/09/14 Wed I know Carbonell is short, but I don't know how short. Do you know her height? (NT) -- MJ1978, 09:44:20 07/10/14 Thu Carbonell has the face of an angel.... (NT) -- Crissy, 11:30:35 07/10/14 Thu Totally (regarding Leeza)! I didn't her as a Top 15....until I saw the pix from registration. Now she's one of my faves. Typically, it's the other way around, where their headshots look MUCH better than in reality (i.e. Annie McFarland, Elise Lobb, Jessica Voigt, etc.)... (NT) -- Groove, 14:28:40 07/10/14 Thu ...those 3 were in my Top 15 until I saw the registration shots. (NT) -- Groove, 14:29:59 07/10/14 Thu Go to the Preliminary Pageants link at the top of the FL USA page and then click on the Coral Gables pageant, which Leeza won. She looks gorgeous. Her headshot does her no justice. (NT) -- delilah, 15:31:30 07/10/14 Thu Yes, I've seen those! That's how I select my pre-pageant Top 16 ;) I'll have another look at Miss Leeza just to remind me ;) (NT) -- Groove, 18:36:26 07/10/14 Thu delilah, I have no idea how I missed this prelim which Leeza won. For candids, she looks amazing! And I must add that she needs to stick with a neutral gown like "champagne" as she did here. OMG. She may knock Melissa Ramirez out of my Top 5 (no hate, peeps- I still love her). (NT) -- Groove, 19:03:16 07/10/14 Thu Bite your tongue. I'd love to see Melissa win. Leeza has plenty of time. It's only her 2nd year in Miss; she was in Teen for a few years. A T15-16 spot would be great for her right now. Want to add that Melissa looks great in swimsuit. My T5 right now is Melissa, Kailyn, Brie, Glenda and one open spot. (NT) -- delilah, 23:17:21 07/10/14 Thu Candid swimsuits are up of Florida Contestants on Flickr photostream. Pretty sure it will be a solid top three of Brie, Kailyn and Glenda. I did not get to see all the girls but those three stood out by a long shot. Brie is really in shape! Kailyn and Glenda are right behind her. So happy with this daily and hourly Florida coverage...I feel like it is Miss USA all over again! Way to go FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Crissy, 14:44:25 07/10/14 Thu I love what Fl idea for their girls even the teens. Even if you don't win you feel really special. I wish more states would do things like this. These girls spend so much time and money it s really nice to see them having this awesome experience! Way to go Florida (NT) -- Mellon, 17:26:09 07/10/14 Thu done (NT) -- Mellon, 17:34:36 07/10/14 Thu* Swimsuit pics ! http://www.local10.com/news/photos-miss-florida-usa-swimsuit-photos/26880090 (NT) -- Qban (NSI), 22:47:44 07/10/14 Thu I went through all of them, the ones that I liked the most were Brie Gabrielle and Marissa Danish. Glenda Pietri is in the mix too, I checked her modelmayhem profile and she's Venezuelan. ;) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:00:18 07/11/14 Fri I went through all of the pics and I think it's finally Brie's year and I'm sooo excited for her! Melissa Ramirez looks amazing as well though and could definitely take it. This isn't my favorite pic of Kailyn but I still know that she's hot, lol. Rachel Stacy is up there for me too. Those four are all in my top 5. The fifth spot is up for grabs to whoever wants it the most that night. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:36:13 07/11/14 Fri South Miami (Kassandra Montandon); Central Florida (Kailyn Perez); and Jupiter (Brie Gabrielle). (NT) -- BamaMan, 10:27:56 07/11/14 Fri Yup Bama..Kassandra for sure will be up there. Haven't heard too much about her. Can't wait till tomorrow! (NT) -- Crissy, 18:21:49 07/11/14 Fri Kassandra is the NEW Michelle Aguirre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- chexmex, 21:25:53 07/11/14 Fri Is there anyone at FL prelims who'll be reporting in after the show tonight? (NT) -- delilah, 23:12:50 07/11/14 Fri Brie looks like she has gained some weight. (NT) -- Cal, 23:32:32 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: :(
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:54:31 07/07/14 Mon Hosanna Kabakoro is a somewhat controversial former titleholder on here... but this is weird/sad :( The son of Fiji's military strongman has been held in police custody over the weekend after being arrested for allegedly assaulting his new beauty queen wife. As a soldier Meli Bainimarama helped his father Voreqe Bainimarama overthrow democratic government in 2006, but since then he has got off-side with his father. In January he eloped with Miss Idaho Tean USA and now journalist Hosanna Kabakoro, 21, and they married against family wishes. On Saturday police sources said Kabakoro fled to the Fiji Women's Crisis Centre and was later taken to hospital. The centre says she is now at a "secret and safe location". Meli Bainimarama was shortly after arrested and charged with four counts of domestic violence. He counter-claimed against this, alleging that she had assaulted him. Fijilive news website said both appeared before Chief Magistrate Usaia Ratuvili this morning who bailed both of them on F$3000 (NZ$1899) bail with strict reporting clauses. They will next appear to make pleas on August 11. The Fiji Times reported that lawyers acting for Kabakoro said she suffered lacerations to her hands and bruises on her body. When Bainimarama seized power in a military coup in December 2006, Meli was among the dozens of soldiers on the streets. He was on the front line trying to seize deposed Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase. Whether dad trusted him is open to question; he was given an M16 automatic - but without any bullets or magazines. The commodore's suspicions about his own soldiers had good grounds; in 2000 they tried to kill him. In 2011 Meli set up Fijian Solutions Group International - one of the many mercenary companies involved in finding security work for ex- soldiers. His wedding this year was exactly 12 years after Voreqe Bainimarama gave his daughter Ateca away in marriage. At the reception at the Suva Yacht Club a guest, John Whippy, was said to have been drunk and insulting. Bainimarama's brother-in-law, navy Commander Francis Kean, beat and punched him, killing him. Initially charged with murder, it was dropped to manslaughter and Kean kept his rank and full military pay. He eventually got 18 months jail but served less than a month Last edited by author: Mon July 07, 2014 23:55:46 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Paying the price for myopic lust! (NT) -- That's what you get for disobeying your prudent parents!, 03:31:52 07/08/14 Tue When I was 21 I was going out with friends, enjoying that I was finally able to drink legally and worrying about school. What a shame. I want to assume she didn't know this person all too well before she decided they needed to make a lifetime commitment. I just hope she runs and not go back to him. The fact that she's so young and getting married to someone she wasn't supposed to hits close to home since I have a cousin who's getting married next week to a guy that she has only known a year and she just turned 20 today. That guy doesn't have a stable job and every time they argue they can't keep to to themselves and feel the need to air it out on social media. It's tough seeing a marriage that probably won't last happen this way. But I digress, hope Hosanna gets the help she needs and learned from this mistake. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 08:45:08 07/08/14 Tue weird. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:18:32 07/08/14 Tue What's the story with her? I see someone above wrote karma. Does she have a history of being mean and nasty or something? (NT) -- FutureMiss, 12:52:24 07/09/14 Wed She won Miss Congeniality at Miss Teen USA 2010 and then came out with some less than congenial comments on Twitter. To be honest... I can't even remember what they were now just that - like this - the whole thing was weird :P (NT) -- oz-usb, 18:13:54 07/09/14 Wed I think her negative comments were mostly directed at the winner? (NT) -- you're right; it was weird!, 19:03:14 07/09/14 Wed Yeah that was my memory too, just didn't want to say in case I had it wrong... (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:47:44 07/09/14 Wed I believe she tweeted "the mean girl won." I don't think it went beyond that but the message board went bonkers over it. (NT) -- ..,., 12:12:25 07/10/14 Thu It went like 3 years beyond that actually. She and her family were stalking and harassing the winner. Still feel bad for her though. (NT) -- It's unfortunate, 21:58:49 07/11/14 Fri Typically classic case of a girl falling for the bad boy. (NT) -- Fatal attraction, 16:23:24 07/09/14 Wed Domestic Violence should never be framed as a mere case of good girl falls for bad boy. (NT) -- Context, 08:24:20 07/10/14 Thu Yeah, Im kinda grossed out by the shaming going on in here. No one knows what went down and it's just icky people are saying she deserved it. (NT) -- jmo, 15:22:40 07/10/14 Thu I agree. The whole karma thing is a little uncalled for, no woman deserves to be physically abused like that just because "she had it coming to her." She could have listened to her parents when they didn't approve (apparently his didn't either and no family attended the ceremony) but that's about as far as it goes. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:42:02 07/11/14 Fri Sometimes they seem like good guys until you've been dating for awhile or are already married. Some people are good at hiding their true colors. (NT) -- M, 21:59:06 07/10/14 Thu

Subject: So sweet
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:54:17 07/10/14 Thu Chelsea Cooley judged International Junior Miss last weekend and had her daughter with her... seriously how cute is she??!! Looks just like her mama and I can totally see Miss USA in her sights. Hey, Kristin Dalton's mum competed at Miss USA too! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I had seen some pictures of her little girl and oh my gosh future Miss Universe in the making! She's such a gorgeous little girl! I wouldn't doubt it for a second that Chelsea will encourage her to do pageants. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:00:32 07/10/14 Thu Beautiful little girl (NT) -- K, 02:47:24 07/11/14 Fri Is she hosting FL USA this year? (NT) -- Thats a change for the gravitts?, 07:54:15 07/11/14 Fri Shandi and Susie are hosting Florida this year. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:09:25 07/11/14 Fri Oops I always get Chelsea confused with them lol (NT) -- ImAMoron, 09:20:10 07/11/14 Fri Omg, in that first pic she is a spitting image! (NT) -- ., 15:09:34 07/11/14 Fri The brunette International Junior Miss is gorgeous and does anyone know if she's intending to compete in a state Miss/Teen USA Pageant? (NT) -- Wandi, 22:30:32 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: Pageant Predictions

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Date Posted: 19:15:49 07/11/14 Fri

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Subject: 2015 state pageant calendar map!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:28:33 07/08/14 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Connecticut? (NT) -- Twinx, 09:40:15 07/09/14 Wed We don't have the specific date for CT yet :( (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:48:56 07/09/14 Wed CT, DE, VT & NM now updated! (NT) -- oz-usb, 02:32:38 07/11/14 Fri When is ct announcing? (NT) -- ??, 08:14:28 07/11/14 Fri Thank you for updating Connecticut! (NT) -- Twinx, 08:30:06 07/11/14 Fri We're now just waiting for Alaska. I need to message Rea to get AK's date - but KY hasn't set a date yet but are close to it, Connie is in touch so I'll be able to post theirs as soon as it's official :D (NT) -- oz-usb, 18:38:00 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: Question about state hopping: in states like Delaware, would residents really be that upset about a real contender state hopping and competing? Just curious because I don't think it would matter as much?
Author: Anonymous [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:36:52 07/11/14 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I do not believe so. Keep in mind, DE numbers are very HIGH for such a TINY & MINISCULE state. If you expect 10 contestants to compete, you will be very surprised coz based on recent pageants it could be 50. I have an impression that a lot of gurls from Philly and Jersey prefer to compete in Delaware since pageants there are quite competitive and winners hold their ground nationally. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 04:02:07 07/11/14 Fri It depends on the system. I am not sure how involved Delaware USA is after MUSA but MAO is a full-time job. As long as she made appearances, promoted the pageant and worked with sponsors for her year, I doubt in the end if people would care except perhaps for the family and friends of those who did not win. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 06:33:53 07/11/14 Fri Donald Trump is probably still fuming over Kate B. calling him out on the Delaware Curse eons ago. She might of thought it was cute and got her 15 mins of Board fame from it, but he doesn't take kindly to getting called out. Just for that he probably makes sure DE is cut on purpose. (NT) -- My theory. Hop over to PA instead, much friendlier state for statehoppers if you are in the NE., 16:55:05 07/11/14 Fri Oh come on, I doubt Trump even remembers Delaware never placed. They'll place sooner or later anyways. They also won Teen back in 1999? (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 17:39:36 07/11/14 Fri

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Author: Sxoxo [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:56:15 07/10/14 Thu Not sure if any of you will around for these dates! Nia will be doing a lot more with other charities, hospitals, public officials and sponsors but these are events that are open to the public and all former and current titleholders! hope some of you can make it! we will also have more info on flyers for each event as we get closer! enjoy! S.xoxo [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What a great series of events Shanna! I also love how you incorporated a recruitment event with Nia's homecoming. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 06:41:03 07/10/14 Thu Now this is awesome! Great planning, Shanna! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 08:51:41 07/10/14 Thu Shanna, may I suggest using the crowning photo of Nia where you still see her Nevada sash for the flyers for the recruitment event? (NT) -- Anon, 09:57:14 07/10/14 Thu good thought! thank you! Ill do that for that flyer. (NT) -- Sxoxo, 16:40:40 07/10/14 Thu Not only is this a great series of events, but I love the sense of humor expressed in tht she will be touring & meeting government officials in Carson City! :) Love it. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 11:37:57 07/10/14 Thu LOVE this picture of Nia! (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:20:55 07/10/14 Thu Nia looks great! Totally random--I was watching The Glades on Netflix (before realizing A&E canceled on a cliffhanger), and I saw our very own Sxoxo! (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 12:51:14 07/10/14 Thu Is there a homecoming parade? or is it just visits and promos? (NT) -- Vegas, 15:11:55 07/10/14 Thu I just wanted to add that normally the mayor would give the key to Las Vegas for something like this. When a Las Vegas local achieves something great. But I havent heard of anything. (NT) -- Vegas, 15:14:25 07/10/14 Thu Vegas, great to have you back! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 16:25:27 07/10/14 Thu Wow that schedule looks exhausting, esp. In the 100 degree heat. (NT) -- 11:30 pm events'. Not for the lazy!, 16:12:27 07/10/14 Thu She is meeting the Mayor for the key to the city but it's not for the public, this was just public events, she is also doing a royal day with The Shade Tree las Vegas and making crowns with the families, visiting Nellis Air Force Base, as well as the children's hospital, there are sponsor events too but this is all open to the public! glad you like it guys! (NT) -- Sxoxo, 16:36:26 07/10/14 Thu So glad all those sorts of events are happening too! When I first read this I was a little disappointed but it just looked like all the typical Vegas nightclub parties etc (I didn't really miss that at Miss USA this year to be honest) so I'm thrilled there are a range of other events she's involved with too. You were right when you promised it would be big! (NT) -- oz-usb, 21:55:51 07/10/14 Thu (NT) -- Sxoxo, 16:42:22 07/10/14 Thu Is Haze at ARIA or Ariain???? (NT) -- Spell check, 18:09:59 07/10/14 Thu Aw, I wanna celebrate National Lollipop Day, too :( but I live in Ohio (wah, wah, waaaaah). I have a feeling we'll soon be seeing a few pix of Miss Nia seductively licking a lollipop (I hope not, but I have a feeling); regardless, she'd still look stinkin' awesome doing it! (NT) -- Groove, 18:23:24 07/10/14 Thu BRAVO Shanna! This promises to be the BEST Homecoming in Miss USA's history! (NT) -- ! WoW! WoW! WoW!, 20:45:55 07/10/14 Thu I so wish I could be there. It is going to be a fantastic few days! (NT) -- gaj (not signed in), 17:08:10 07/11/14 Fri

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Author: NEQueen [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:30:56 07/09/14 Wed Not sure if this has been posted here. Very nice (fast) run through of prelims! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Not this one in order, we had some other recaps posted but this one is the BEST, as much as liked this year's pageant a lot, I find it nothing short of MIND BOGGLING that so many worthy girls were eliminated prior to top 20. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 16:43:41 07/09/14 Wed I do NOT understand how Arkansas, Michigan, and Utah didnt make the cut. They were beautiful and perfection. Arizona has got to have the WORST Miss USA finals walk of all time. Indiana was not strong for me in prelims so I'm surprised so made it to where she did, and same goes for Virginia. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 18:03:35 07/09/14 Wed You are spot on. I would sleep just fine at night without Arizona, Indiana, and Virginia in the top 20. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 01:21:38 07/10/14 Thu So many girls robbed, it is beyond belief, the most obvious ones to me: Utah, Texas, New York and Kentucky. I'd also put some others instead of some of the top 20 finalists. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 01:43:30 07/10/14 Thu I was surprised New York and Massachusetts didn't make it. I would have had them up there instead of Arizona and Indiana. Utah was one I got more as a teen than a Miss. Although had she made it I wouldn't have complained. (NT) -- Glitzy, 16:58:53 07/10/14 Thu So gorgeous these two. I can see how NY may have come off as cold/flat/aloof, because she did have those tendencies. So did Illinois, who is Hollywood gorgeous and her career success is proving that. However, Massachusetts and Utah seemed to be on point. I can't help but think all were pulled from the Top 20 to make room for fillers and sob stories. (NT) -- Would have loved to see NY especially compete in EG., 17:07:43 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: Need Advice Please!
Author: Grateful for your help. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:53:57 07/03/14 Thu I am planning to compete for Miss in a VanBros state this year and would like any insights, tips, observations, etc. you would care to share -- especially if you are someone who has competed with those directors. I competed in Teen and Miss in another state with other directors where I used to live. I'm just wondering what the experience will be like. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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VanBros. Frankly, they are not among my favorite directors but over the years I noticed fewer delegates complained about them than other state systems. The good thing is: I do not think formers enjoy as much an advantage as in most other states, so former Teens and runner-ups are not given a preferential treatment. On the other hand, it is difficult to stand out and results are at times difficult to explain. I notice they tend to go for girls who are EASIER to work with rather than who would be more competitive on the national stage. Miss Universe Org definitely likes them as they gave them an additional state IL from this upcoming season on. I am not sure they offer enough advise to the girls, since some of their girls wore atrocious gowns in recent years... If you enjoy individual approach to the USA pageant without the director telling you what to do, I think Vanbros are great. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 13:48:45 07/03/14 Thu how would they be able to tell who is easier to work with? Do they let the girl/teen/miss pick her own gown? Do they tell her what to say/ not say? what is consitered difficult? (NT) -- catalina, 19:37:53 07/03/14 Thu Usually their pageant is two days, their numbers are not that huge so they have time to observe the girls, especially those who come back. Yes, they do...notice huge difference between fab gowns of Oklahoma 2014, 2010 and absolutely atrocious ones of Missouri 2010, Kansas 2007. Me still love Cara Gorges though! Vanbros winners seem to go with the flow, the problem with that could be if there is a diamond in the rough like Kaitlyn Smith Vanbros is NOT the best directorship to be under. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 20:33:55 07/03/14 Thu I know for a fact that MO 2010's gown was not her Vanbros-chosen gown, but a sneak one of her own, FYI. (NT) -- VB thoughts, 16:51:55 07/06/14 Sun The gowns are from a few designers but John has bragged on multiple occasions how he picks the styles and helps design or do custom changes to existing gowns. Don't blame the girls I have been told by 5 past winners they had zero say and the designer they worked with didn't either, he makes 100% of the decisions. (NT) -- -, 01:37:45 07/04/14 Fri I don't think there are any young women who have worked with Vanbros who don't feel special, appreciated, cared for, and wind up a member of the V family. They are simply wonderful, know what they're doing with 2 Miss TUSAs, 1 Miss USA, and countless finalists. If you should win your state, "Grateful", you will be under the guidance of a warm and wise team. Good luck. (NT) -- silver, 09:54:19 07/04/14 Fri Three Teen Usas. (NT) -- tonyusb, 22:02:05 07/04/14 Fri Their results seem tyo be questionable at times and makes you think that the judges are given "guidance" on who to select. 8 out of 10 times the best girl doesn't win in these states but typically the girl that doesnt make waves, is cute and preferred by john (NT) -- i would compete in another state, 12:18:30 07/04/14 Fri Any more helpful hints or insights? (NT) -- OP, 16:02:28 07/06/14 Sun Yes - ignore the venom, Vanbros actually spends quite a bit if money and time on their girls - they have only had problems when a girl wants them to pay for a certain brand or coach/opt out of their training in favor of a different consultant. That being said, they like fresh faces and very fit bodies. I've noticed it's hard for an okay body to beat a less experienced girl with a harder body. They like girls who stand out until their very last moments on stage, so there's no room for nailing prelims and coasting through finals. Find a way to brand yourself and double your cardio - and, by all means, don't lay on the "patty" vibe. They hate that, and for good reason. (NT) -- VB thoughts, 16:49:15 07/06/14 Sun Thanks! That's helpful. I see that VB does SS and EG first in prelims then interview the next day so clearly girls have to really be fit to make a good first impression on judges. (NT) -- OP, 23:09:43 07/06/14 Sun ttt (NT) -- :), 20:20:36 07/08/14 Tue Unfortunately, with all the pageants vanbros have taken on, title holders individual attention only if they really make it known they need it. So we' re seeing less drMatic transformations than the past. They are nice people who do not demand much from their titleholders, but prefer go-getters. They have their state pageants down to a science so very little time is wasted but I do wish they would changed the duel crownings of teen and Miss. They like to crown girls who are lean and pretty good in swimsuit to begin with, so more of the long leggy type who are fit. And thankfully they have been posting on FB how many of their states have new sponsors for a variety of things including gowns! (NT) -- If you ask they will help you with anything- you just HAVE TO ask., 17:06:55 07/09/14 Wed Good to know. Thanks for the insights! This board has so many thoughtful and experienced pageant pros, I knew I could rely on you for input, even though I am not a board "regular." More comments are welcome! I'd love to hear from Iceman and some other board regulars if you all are willing. (NT) -- OP, 19:50:01 07/09/14 Wed I hold the Vanbros organization in high regard. Through the years their pageants have become more streamlined and run like a finely tuned machine. More importantly, the pageants are fair. Since its founding, Vanbros delegates have performed quite well, including a few national titleholders. They treat their titleholders and former titleholders quite well. The organization provides wonderful services and guidance for their titleholders. However, I also think they may have overextended themselves in recent years with the number of states they oversee. Having now acquired IL, they are up to six programs. Overseeing that many, sometimes leads to a less personalization for each delegate. Rather than each delegate receiving individualized treatment, it is more of a group experience. (NT) -- MLB, 12:49:01 07/10/14 Thu I think they're a great organization that has an exceptionally fair pageant - they are directors who take great pains to let the judges run and omit themselves from the decision making process. It sucks when they pick bad judges, but I think they've done a better job of avoiding "consultant" types generally. I DO think that Vanbros girls actually benefit from having many sister title holders - you have more individual time if you ask for it, but otherwise you learn what mini-competition is like before you get there. If you're strong, you rise to the occasion. I'd rather tough love that makes you the best competitor you can be than surrounded in a protective echo chamber that makes you mentally weak at USA. (NT) -- Bacon, 20:42:45 07/10/14 Thu Love this insight. It is true that even with "sisters" there is competition (interpersonally, for time, for resources, etc). Just like at Miss USA. So that is an important mindset to acquire. (NT) -- Girls in those states just have to accept they need to own their prep and take charge., 17:02:12 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: My "ones to watch" in Florida...
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:09:48 07/01/14 Tue (just their significant placements) Brie Gabrielle - 1RU ‘14, 2RU CA USA ‘13, 1RU CA USA ‘12 (click here to read my interview with Brie!) Linette De Los Santos - 2RU ‘14 Kailyn Perez - 3RU ‘14 Melissa Ramirez - 4RU ‘14, 1RU ‘12 Connor Boss - 4RU ‘13, 2RU FL Teen USA ‘12, other NF placements Marissa Danish - 4RU ‘12 - barely recognised her with the long hair, what a transformation! Elise Lobb - 4RU FL TUSA ‘13 Anh Do - 4RU FL TUSA ‘09 Christina Nicholson - 4RU VA TUSA ‘08 Rachel Stacy SF VA USA ‘14, SF VA USA ‘13 - should have made top 5 by now in my opinion ;) Jessica Voight - SF ‘14, looks to have improved hugely since then as well Melissa Ziegler - newbie who caught my eye My full commentary is now up at http://pageantupdate.tumblr.com/post/90421679091/miss-florida-usa-2015-will-be-crowned-july-12 and includes notes of past placements for all contestants [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thank you oz-usb for a lovely and thorough analysis of what is going on in FL USA competition. It is extremely RARE to have 4 out of the previous year's top 5 come back, let alone in a BIG state like FLORIDA! Also Taisha SMELLIE is a former Miss Bahamas contestant. I am so sad for Britt Oldehoff, I know 5th place in Miss USA is still a great accomplishment but this girl is MU material and did everything right, so sad. :( The dynamics of this competition will be interesting. Marissa Danish coming back is amazeballs too! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:30:05 07/01/14 Tue There's something I really like about Kailyn Perez. I had forgotten she was 3RU last year. Brie is of course a frontrunner and while not my personal favorite, I can see her finally winning it. I agree with yo Oz, Melissa Ziegler caught my eye too. Should be a fierce competition, as Melissa Ramirez or Linette De Los Santos could also pull it off. (NT) -- Athalia, 12:53:11 07/01/14 Tue With no disrespect to the girl, I just do not get de los Santos at all. She's probably a lovely person, but I don't understand the appeal from an aesthetic viewpoint. (NT) -- delilah, 21:00:17 07/01/14 Tue I think she has an interesting look and Florida often crowns an interesting looking girl rather than a bombshell. I think Jenna Edwards, Stagia Pierre and Karina Brez fit that bill too. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 11:32:31 07/02/14 Wed I ditto that. Honestly, she has very masculine features. I couldn't believe she made it as far as 2nd runner up last year (let alone placing :/).....but best wishes to her! (NT) -- Groove, 18:24:07 07/02/14 Wed I'm thrilled to say that I will be in attendance at Miss Florida USA this year to watch the lovely Brittany Oldehoff give up her title, and to support my new friend Kailyn Perez in her quest to be the next Florida USA! Ft. Lauderdale, here I come! :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:17:09 07/01/14 Tue And while I'm on the subject of Kailyn Perez... While her headshot is pretty, it does absolutely no justice to how stunning she is in person. She really did steal the show at virtually every event I saw her at in Baton Rouge during Miss USA weekend. Not only is she absolutely gorgeous, I was also enthralled with how personable she is, and so easy to talk to. I'm sure Florida has quite a few lovely young ladies to pick from... But I am 100% behind Kailyn Perez. She would compliment Brittany Oldehoff's successful year very nicely for the Sunshine State! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:21:19 07/01/14 Tue Ohh, this makes me even more excited for Kailyn, as I remember last year you said the same thing about Brittany Oldehoff being personable at Mis USA events, ICEMAN! (NT) -- Athalia, 16:41:33 07/01/14 Tue Very interesting observation, Athalia... I had not drawn that conclusion, but you really hit the nail on the head. I have virtually the same feeling about Kailyn Perez that I had about Brittany Oldehoff last year (in regards to that remarkable x-factor).... Good call! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 19:20:27 07/01/14 Tue I watched the webcast last year and LOVED Kailyn and actually had her as my winner. I really hope she does well this year :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 22:49:39 07/01/14 Tue Are you dating her Icey???? (NT) -- Inquiring minds..., 06:42:37 07/02/14 Wed No, we are not dating. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:36:37 07/02/14 Wed whomever Iceman is dating is a lucky gal! (NT) -- jealous, 11:13:20 07/02/14 Wed There is no lucky gal at this time... But I'm taking applications! ;) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 00:04:46 07/03/14 Thu Can a lucky guy apply?? ;) (NT) -- Dream date, 00:37:33 07/04/14 Fri Give him time, he will eventually end his beard behavior and come out of the closest. (NT) -- Shantella, 20:13:04 07/10/14 Thu LOL...is that not the truth....no woman in her right mind would come anywhere near that in the first place. (NT) -- ., 14:35:29 07/11/14 Fri (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:35:38 07/02/14 Wed She reminds me of a prettier Valerie Pro mixed with a little bit of Genevieve Cortese (from WildFire on ABC Family a while back). (NT) -- HiJake, 07:21:16 07/03/14 Thu Exactly! Valerie Pro with a bit of Elizabeth Ivezaj in the mix. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 19:16:07 07/06/14 Sun my favorite picture of her is the more "natural" one on the right. I think she'd fare better without a middle part. But that's just me :) (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 15:22:36 07/03/14 Thu Did she have a nose job? Not that I have every seen a picture of her looking different, and he nose is perfect....it just looks like its not what would have originally been on her face....make sense? It doesnt seem to fit the rest of her features. (NT) -- LuckyPenny, 20:01:55 07/10/14 Thu My favorites for this year are Kailyn, Brie, and Melissa Ramirez. However, I feel like Florida is always tough to call. I can't wait to see who our first 2015 titleholder is! It seems weird that we will know it so soon! (NT) -- MJ1978, 22:46:54 07/01/14 Tue I completely agree. FL seems like a state that would be easy to predict, and, because it's a competitive state to compete in, likely favor veterans of the pageant stage. But it seems like there's really never any clear winner, and finals is anyone's game. I've been surprised by a lot of girls who competed numerous times but failed to ever capture either the teen or miss crown in that state. While Brie is my favorite, but I don't think anyone has it in the bag. There's some newbies that are standing out to me that I won't be surprised to see win it all. (NT) -- JennNYC, 06:40:58 07/02/14 Wed two VA Girls in FLA now (NT) -- good luck, 11:44:13 07/02/14 Wed Va. Girls Rachel Stacy is attending Physical Therapy School in St. Augustine for her Doctorate. Florida is her residence and home now. Go Rachel (NT) -- no name, 12:29:01 07/02/14 Wed Ah, yes, Rachel competed in Virginia! I knew I recognized her name! (NT) -- Groove, 18:25:46 07/02/14 Wed Who is the other VA girl?? (NT) -- MiaME, 23:38:22 07/02/14 Wed Read my post & commentary! It's Christina Nicholson who was 4RU in Teen in 2008. (NT) -- oz-usb, 00:10:29 07/03/14 Thu Good for these girls to get out of VA USA (sorry..not my fav state) and go for their dreams! (NT) -- VICNIC, 09:53:23 07/03/14 Thu Brie is my sentimental favorite. Love her spunk. Kailyn is SO Amelia Vega 2015, just hope her head does not fall off the way she contorts her back. De Los Santos, am I missing something, she looks like a teen. My darkhorse is GLENDA PIETRI. SHE IS HAWTTTTT! I just hope they crown a pretty one. (NT) -- chexmex, 14:19:58 07/02/14 Wed Itt is confirmed at www.News4Jax.com will once again be streaming the pageant FREE OF CHARGE (NT) -- to all worldwide pageant fans, 18:43:55 07/02/14 Wed I love her over the back look she has going in that photo! It looks like something a Miss Venezuela would master for an appearance... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 00:12:50 07/03/14 Thu Hailey Bason photoshop too Natalie Carbonell, Amanda Cooksey, Helen Higgins, Ashleigh Lollie, Ashley McKenzie, Kerissa Nelson, Celine Pelofi, Nicole Sabol, nobody takes them into account, but they can cause an upset and sort easily Danielle Castilian much like Brittany Oldehoff Gabriella Lopez, my favorite I hope you have a good classification Nicole Bowden interesting (NT) -- paco, 00:50:42 07/03/14 Thu I am team Brie! Kailyn will be up there too for she has it all together! My underdogs are Natalie Carbonella and Glenda Pietri. Glenda just has "the look" but I could be totally off base on this one. Cannot find much about her and have not seen her in motion. I do know that she has Venezuelan blood and is a runway model. Anyone familiar with her?? Can't wait for next week!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Crissy, 11:03:25 07/03/14 Thu Brie has the goods to win. Kailyn has all the right moves but lacks the maturity to win. My guess is that a newbie will win. (NT) -- SVB, 17:14:58 07/03/14 Thu After looking at the candids, I also LOVE Glenda! Good to hear it's not just me (NT) -- LA Liz, 22:44:53 07/09/14 Wed Don't forget former Miss Teen United States 2012 Lacey Morgan! (NT) -- Wannabe, 23:02:59 07/05/14 Sat BRIE was the lead in a movie called "Forget Me Not." The trailor is on YouTube. It looks scarey as hell. Love her even MORE!!!!!!! (NT) -- chexmex, 18:31:15 07/06/14 Sun Yes Chexy that does look scary!! Movie got good reviews too!!! She is in a horror movie too?? That does it, team Brie all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Crissy, 21:01:44 07/06/14 Sun Oh yeah! That looks wicked!! I adore horror flix! Not that I needed any reconfirming that Brie would be my Road To pick, but this just seals the deal for me! (NT) -- Groove, 14:21:44 07/10/14 Thu What's the story on Rachel Stacy (Space Coast)? She stood out to me in arrival shots. Also Brie, Glenda Pietri, Leeza Ovalle and Sarah Rogers. (NT) -- Phyllis Darnell, 10:36:11 07/10/14 Thu I like Rachel Stacy too! I can see her doing very well. I would have her in my top 5 along with Brie Gabrielle, Kailyn Perez, Melissa Ramirez, and Anh Do. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 11:19:21 07/10/14 Thu Am I the only one who thinks Rachel Stacey resembles Jesica Ahlberg? Jesica is Miss Alabama this year and placed at Miss USA! (NT) -- Crissy, 11:37:50 07/10/14 Thu She looks like Natalie Portman to me. (NT) -- Sunluv, 13:01:38 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: Miss Tennessee USA
Author: MissUSAFan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:08:46 07/10/14 Thu I stumbled across this article today when someone on my Facebook shared it, thought it was interesting. Do you think we will see our Miss Tennessee USA on the next season of The Bachelor? Definitely found it interesting that she was at the casting. http://m.nashvillescene.com/nashville/once-you-leave-the-auditions-for-the-bachelor-single-ladies-the-real-competition-starts/Content?oid=4231311 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I hope for her sake that she isn't chosen for the show. They'll reduce her to some stock character (probably "vapid airhead beauty queen") and edit edit edit to support that image, regardless of what she's actually like. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 19:54:47 07/10/14 Thu Meh. Just wants to be famous. She tried to sing with her sister (google "Official Hot Mess" please) and then tried the pageant thing. I guess reality TV is next, but beauty queen and looking for a husband don't really mix too well. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 21:58:47 07/10/14 Thu Have you ever spoke to her? She is by far one of the nicest titleholders I have ever met or talked to. I have had many conversations with her and she is very new to the pageant world. She has done more with her ittle then alot of Miss TN USA's have. She is 100,000,000% dedicated to our troops and armed forces. Kristy I hope you stay off these pageant boards because your amazing and right now use your title to benefit later on down the road thats what all the girls do anyways! (NT) -- westtnmommy, 22:19:32 07/10/14 Thu Oh I'm sure she's a very nice person and has the best intentions in the world but that doesn't mean she doesn't want to be famous or infamous (whatever people prefer these days). (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 00:11:10 07/11/14 Fri Ok, wow where do I start? First of all if any of you actually read the article instead of the headline, you would realize that the people at the casting asked this writer not to publish names, probably to avoid rumors like this getting started. Second of all, if any of you actually know miss tn USA, you would realize that she is originally from LA, and having those roots, you are bound to have friends in "the industry". Thirdly, being a personal friend of hers (from LA)I actually know the real story. She was ASKED to stop by the casting by a friend. NO she is not doing the bachelor. So get your panties out of a wad and forget about it! So sick of sweet girls like her and Lexi Atkins getting hate for pursuing things other than pageants. Ok. Rant over haha (NT) -- Friend2thePageantGirls, 07:48:11 07/11/14 Fri

Subject: Connecticut and Vermont state pageants
Author: Glitzy [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:41:43 07/10/14 Thu Connecticut Miss and Teen is November 15-16, 2014 Vermont Miss and Teen is November 22-23, 2014 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Do you work for Pageant Associates? (NT) -- ?, 20:16:45 07/10/14 Thu

Subject: who is preetier from 1983-now
Author: catalina [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:09:52 07/09/14 Wed every year there are 3 pageants teen, usa and universe. Pick the one each year you think is the prettiest. this is just for fun so no negativity [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'll play! 1983: Julie Hayek (USA) 1984 Yvonne Ryding (Universe) 1985 Deborah Carthy-Deu (Universe) 1986 Christy Fichtner (USA) 1987 Kristi Addis (Teen) 1988 Courtney Gibbs (USA) 1989 A tie between Angela Visser (Universe) and Gretchen Polhemus (USA) 1990 Carole Gist (USA) 1991 Janel Bishop (Teen) 1992 Michelle McLean (Universe) 1993 Charlotte Lopez (Teen) 1994 Sushmita Sen (Universe) 1995 Chelsi Smith (Universe) 1996 Ali Landry (USA) 1997 Shelley Moore (Teen) 1998 Vanessa Minnillo (Teen) 1999 Mpule Kwelagobe (Universe) 2000 Lynette Cole (USA) 2001 Denise Quinones (Universe) 2002 Oxana Federova (Universe) 2003 Amelia Vega (Universe) 2004 (this is difficult) Shelley Hennig (Teen) 2005 Allie LaForce (Teen) 2006 Katie Blair (Teen) 2007 Rachel Smith (USA) 2008 Crystle Stewart (USA) 2009 Stormi Henley (Teen) 2010 Ximena Navarette (Universe) 2011 Alyssa Campanella (USA) 2012 Olivia Culpo (Universe) 2013 Cassidy Wolf (Teen) (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 03:09:19 07/09/14 Wed Some very difficult choices. 2013 I struggled between Erin and Cassidy. 1989 was a struggle between Angela and Gretchen to name a couple. (NT) -- Duration-and-Convexity, 03:10:41 07/09/14 Wed I'll play for the years I care for: '92 (Jamie Solinger TEEN), '93 (Cahrlotte Lopez TEEN), '94 (Sushmita Sen UNIVERSE), '95 Chelsi Smith (Universe), '96 (Ali Landry USA)), '97 (Brandi Sherwood USA), '98 (Vanessa TEEN), '99 (Kim Pressler USA), '00 (Lara Dutta UNIVERSE), '01 (Denise August UNIVERSE), '02 (Justine Pasek UNIVERSE although Oxana is still my MU), '03 (Amelia Vega UNIVERSE), 04' (Shelley Hennig TEEN), 05' (Allie LaForce TEEN), '06 Tara Conner USA, 07' (Rachel Smith USA), 08' (Dayana Mendoza UNIVERSE), 09' (Stormi TEEN), 10' (Ximenya UNIVERSE), 11' (Campanella USA), 12' (Culpo, UNIVERSE), 13' (Cassidy Wolf, TEEN) (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 04:18:24 07/09/14 Wed 95: Plead the fifth. Shanna & Chelsi have to have been one of the most amazing duos ever. Can we break the crown in half and share it between them? 96 - Ali Landry, 97 - Brook Lee, 98 - Vanessa Minnillo, 99 - Mpule Kwelagobe, 00 - Lara Dutta, 01 - Kandace Krueger, 02 - Justine Pasek, 03 - Susie Castillo, 04 - Again, I plead the fifth. Can we split the crown three ways? Impossible to pick a favourite, 2005 - Ditto. Not quite on the same level as 2005 but all three are soft spots of mine & I refuse to split them :P 2006 - Katie Blair but in later years I grew to absolutely love & admire Tara in a way I never did during her reign, 07 - Rachel Smith, 08 - Crystle Stewart, one of the weaker years for me, 09 - Stormi, but again, like Tara I have gained a new love & respect for Kristin since then, 2010 - Kamie Crawford, 2011 - Alyssa Campanella (although so hard to split her & Danielle), 2012 - Olivia Culpo, 2013 - Cassiderin. Yeah, I'm hopeless. (NT) -- oz-usb, 07:13:49 07/09/14 Wed Chipping in! 2002 - Oxana Federova (Universe), 2003 - Amelia Vega (Universe), 2004 - Jennifer Hawkins (Universe), 2005 - Allie LaForce (Teen), 2006 - Tara Conner (USA), 2007 - Riyo Mori (Universe), 2008 - Dayana Mendoza (Universe), 2009 - Kristen Dalton (USA), 2010 - Ximena Navarrete (Universe), 2011 - Alyssa Campanella (USA), 2012 - Olivia Culpo (USA), 2013 - Erin Brady (USA) (NT) -- Katie, 07:46:09 07/09/14 Wed 1983 - Julie Hayek, 1984 - Yvonne Ryding, 1985 -Laura Harring, 1986 - Christy Fichtner, 1987 - Kristi Addis, 1988 - Courtney Gibbs, 1989 -Gretchen Polhemus, 1990 - Carole Gist, 1991 - Lupita Jones, 1992 - Shannon Marketic, 1993 - Kenya Moore, 1994 - Sushmita Sen, 1995 - Chelsi Smith, 1996 - Ali Landry, 1997 - Shelly Moore, 1998 - Vanessa Minnillo, 1999 - Mpule Kwelagobe, 2000 - Lara Dutta, 2001 - Denise Quinones, 2002 - Oxana Federova, 2003 - Amelia Vega, 2004 - Jennifer Hawkins, 2005 - Allie LaForce, 2006 - Tara Conner, 2007 - Rachel Smith, 2008 - Crystle Stewart, 2009 - Kristen Dalton, 2010 - Ximena Navarette, 2011 - Alyssa Campanella, 2012 - Olivia Culpo, 2013 - Erin Brady (The years 1989, 1995, 1996, 2004, 2006 were tough to decide between) (NT) -- PF-Indy, 12:40:42 07/09/14 Wed 83: USA 84: Universe 85: USA 86: Universe 87: Teen 88: USA 89: USA 90: USA 91: Universe 92: Teen 93: Universe 94: USA 95: USA 96: USA 97: Teen 98: Universe 99: USA 00: USA 01: Universe 02: Universe 03: Universe 04: Teen 05: USA 06: USA 07: USA 08: Universe 09: Teen 10: Universe 11: USA 12: Universe 13: Teen 14: TBD :) (NT) -- ., 15:36:17 07/09/14 Wed 83' - Teen, 84'- Universe, 85'- USA, 86'- Universe, 87'-Teen, 88'- Universe, 89'- USA, 90'- USA, 91'- Universe, 92'- Universe, 93'- USA, 94'- Universe, 95' - Universe, 96'- USA, 97'- Universe, 98'- Teen, 99'- USA, 00'- Universe, 01'- Universe, 02'- Universe, 03'- Universe, 04'- TIE, 05'- Teen, 06'- Universe, 07'- USA, 08'- USA, 09'- Universe, 10'- Teen, 11'- Universe, 12'- Universe, 13'- USA (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 18:39:18 07/09/14 Wed this is hard 1983 Ruth Zackarian 84 cherise Haugen 85 Kelly Hu 86 christy Fichner 87 Kristy Addis 88Courtney Gibbs 89 Angela Visser 90 Mona Grudt 91 Bridget. 92 Michelle 93 Charlotte L 94 Lu parker 95 Chelsi smith 96 ali Landry 97 brook Lee 98 Shawnae Jebbia 99 Kim Pressler 00 Jillian parry 01 Kandace Krueger 02 Oxana F 03 Vanessa Semrow 04 Jennifer H 05 Alli 06 Ryio 07. 08 Stevi 09 stormy, 10 usa 11 Alyssa 12 Olivia 13 Erin 14 Cassidy 83,84,87,90, 92, 93 were the hardest (NT) -- catalina, 22:08:36 07/09/14 Wed 1983: Julie; 1984: Cherise; 1985: Kelly; 1986: Christy; 1987: Kristi: 1988: Courtney; 1989: Gretchen; 1990: Carole; 1991: Lupita; 1992: Shannon; 1993: Charlotte; 1994: Sushmita; 1995: Shanna; 1996: Ali; 1997: Brook; 1998: Wendy; 1999: Mpule; 2000: Lara; 2001: Kandace; 2002: Justine; 2003: Susie; 2004: Shandi; 2005: Allie; 2006: Zulyeka; 2007: Hilary; 2008: Dayana; 2009: Stefania; 2010: Ximenia; 2011: Alyssa; 2012: Olivia; 2013: Cassidy (NT) -- JennNYC (not logged in), 15:44:52 07/10/14 Thu

Subject: Final of Miss U.S. International
Author: Tiki-Java [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:13:14 06/27/14 Fri Watch the finals as two young women are selected to represent the United States at world-wide pageants: Miss International & Miss Supranational! At 7pm East Coast time..top of this hour. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Mark my words - Allyn Rose will win the title. Georgia will win Supernational (NT) -- ITK, 19:51:11 06/27/14 Fri Great to know that Allyn is competing! We really need to have the names of contestants on the website next year. Except for Allyn Rose what other girls from the USA system (national or state) are competing? Btw, a fellow Marylander Cassandra Tressler was Miss USA Intl a few years ago. ;) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 20:23:10 06/27/14 Fri It doesn't appear that any other former American or USA title holders are competing this year. 39 girls if I counted correctly but no other State title holders (NT) -- Luvin2live, 21:00:18 06/27/14 Fri Allyn won super national and CA Miss US International really though Georgia should have won a title (NT) -- Congrat. Wasn't Allyn suppose to have her breast surgery after the USA pageant? She now says December., 21:37:23 06/27/14 Fri Oh Allyn Rose... this girl and her breast remval surgery use to really piss me off. I finally came to the realization that Yes, I feel she is a liar. But on the other hand, it is her life, I am not her doctor. I have not seen her med chart. If she is lying that is on her. Karma will get her bigger than I could nad honeslty spenign my time anymore bitching about what a publicity stunt I think this is, it is just not up to me to judge. But man do I want to!! This is her journey, and I need to step back and let it all unfold no matter how that is to happen. And I would feel like a real ass if what she says is true and and I had judged her for it. (NT) -- jmo, 22:16:56 06/27/14 Fri I agree with you I only hope her story is sincere. What bothers me is her interviews during Miss Amercica 2011 and USA she states after the pageant she will be having a double mastectomy. (NT) -- 3 pageants same story. I understand it's a big decision maybe better said if she state she is considering it., 22:29:54 06/27/14 Fri I watched the webcast..until it ended at intermission, so I didn't see the results, but I think these were two good choices. Both looked great & spoke well! They should do well at their respective international pageants! (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 22:32:50 06/27/14 Fri Miss Connecticut Jessica Zapata competed in Miss RI USA 2013. (NT) -- Anon, 01:44:25 06/28/14 Sat andrea neu just delivered miss international crown us, may be re-used presentarce to miss colorado Andrea Neu (1 RU13, 1RU 12, 1RU 11) (NT) -- paco, 22:39:35 06/27/14 Fri This pageant was extremely sketchy... Age requirements were changed right before Nationals, a contestant was allowed to compete after the deadline of May 1st, there was no preliminary interview - only the top 15 was allowed to speak on stage. Which is wrong. Love the international winner... But a little sketchy for my liking with one too many coincidences. (NT) -- Flyonthewall, 12:07:11 06/28/14 Sat What is the name of the winner? And Allyn Rose is going to Supranational right? I am quite impressed with Miss Supranational after five years, they already seem to have secured the status of the fifth most prestigious pageant internationally. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 12:49:41 06/28/14 Sat If the pageant is sketchy maybe you should ask the director about your concerns. She will speak with you. (NT) -- She is a register user on this voy board, 13:31:15 06/28/14 Sat Why is it sketchy to not have a private judges interview? There is no private judges interview at Miss International in Japan. And large states like California at USA sometimes have 90 second interviews. I don't understand how you connect that with "sketchiness". (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 14:48:49 06/28/14 Sat Dear FlyOnTheWall, I just love comments like yours. Let me ask you ONE THING. Were you at my home when I recieved all of the paperwork for the May 1 deadline? I could have sworn I am the only one at my office accepting the entries. Every single delegate had their paperwork submitted on time who was competing. It takes at least 4 weeks to get crowns and sashes in, which is why the deadline is May 1st. The age limit was raised by the ICA, the owners of Miss International in April. Not by my asking, but by the pleading of ALL national directors for the past several years. The age was raised for my program because Supranational is 18-26. IF you are a delegate in my program, which I hope you are not, let me refer you to my website: http://missusinternational.com/areasofcompetition.html These competition categories are clearly stated on my website. If you do not like this, then don't enter. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 13:38:51 06/29/14 Sun Why would non-finalists speak in interview? They do not do this at Miss International? If I want my USA delegates to succeed, I want to follow what the next level does closely. I work very hard to have a fair pageant, for you to call me sketchy because you are upset is wrong. If you have an issue, come to me, but I have a high suspicion that you will not. Thank you. END OF RANT. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 13:40:12 06/29/14 Sun Stacey I have a really stupid question but can't find the answer. What's the difference between Miss US Supra & Miss US Inter??? (NT) -- curious, 06:57:41 07/09/14 Wed "Choosing life is more important." Actually, Allyn, call me crazy but you've been choosing beauty over your proactive health/life - and pretty publicly too. Am I the only one who can't stand this girl? She's beautiful and well-spoken, but a class A hypocrite. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 14:22:10 06/28/14 Sat Quite frankly, her medical history is none of your business. You dont know what she and her doctor discuss, or if she possibly has had medical procedures done to correct any issues she may have. Ultimately she competes in pageants. She walks on a stage in gown and swimsuit. If you still "cant stand" her because of her evening gown presentation, then thats a different story. Otherwise, move on... Its creepy.... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:24:17 06/28/14 Sat Actually, considering the fact that she uses this story in order to illicit sympathy and pageant votes from us, it's perfectly reasonable to hate her for her hypocrisy. I can't stand anyone who uses a ploy such as cancer and lies on a national stage in order to win a crown. Call me creepy (NT) -- PF, 19:50:45 06/28/14 Sat I understand what you're saying, ICEMAN, but I will say that she makes her medical history our business, by inundating us with insincere updates on her pre-op status every chance she gets. I starting hearing about Allyn and her surgery in 2011. That was 3 years ago. Call me creepy - that's fine - but it's time to either put up or shut up. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 00:01:34 06/29/14 Sun ICEMAN, I think your response is a little strong. I also think it's quite odd to "hate" this girl for her story/gimmick. I will say, from my perspective she makes her medical stuff our business when she talks about it constantly. Not unlike any other contestant with a platform, official or unofficial. I got tired of hearing about Nia and the black belt, and she was my favorite contestant at USA this year. My point is, once they put it out there and we know about it, it then takes on a life of its own and people don't want to keep hearing about it from the same perspective. They now want to hear that she considered it or is still considering it or has decided against it or whatever. Simply saying it over and over in the same way is frankly monotonous and annoying. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 01:08:54 06/29/14 Sun Your being an ashole yet again....guess it would be like a day without orange juice if you were not. (NT) -- ., 22:33:49 07/09/14 Wed* I guess Samantha Brooks won't be returning to Miss CA 2015... (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 14:53:44 06/28/14 Sat Love Allyn Rose! :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 15:25:07 06/28/14 Sat I have nothing against crown chasers. I have no right to discuss someone's medical issue or health choice BUT I do have serious beef when someone uses the same, tired, rehearsed "unique" aspect of their life that it's borderline/blatant obvious that there's not much substance behind the greatly structured speech. Just a ploy for publicity and don't be crying foul when others start to criticise you for your hypocrisy (NT) -- Banalities, 21:01:57 06/28/14 Sat Super congrats to the new Miss US International! Can we get a photo of the winners? Looking forward to seeing her in Japan! (NT) -- Snowflake, 01:54:42 06/29/14 Sun (NT) -- Sxoxo, 04:04:08 06/29/14 Sun COngrats! I think this is the best she has ever looked and I'm not 100% sure but I think she's having her surgery in Dec… I'm just really happy for her! xoxo (NT) -- Sxoxo, 04:12:57 06/29/14 Sun Samantha Brooks is Miss US International. I believe she competed in CAUSA and Ms. Racing Queen. (NT) -- HiJake, 07:57:30 06/29/14 Sun Yes, she made top 20 the year when M. Capeluj won. Not sure if she competed this January. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 09:50:52 06/29/14 Sun (NT) -- USBModStacey, 13:51:29 06/29/14 Sun I also must compliment the judges, because in my opinion, after watching prelims and final and hearing the semi-finalists on-stage interviews, I think this an entirely logical ranking...:) (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 15:05:51 06/30/14 Mon Names and home states of winners please! (NT) -- other than the obvious on sashes, 13:10:18 06/30/14 Mon She could win any pageant--as long as she doesn't have to roller skate. (NT) -- DeeDee, 13:18:52 06/30/14 Mon Ok so Anastagia Pierre gets flack for being a crown chaser, but Miss Surgery 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 doesn't? (NT) -- Former fan, over her already., 14:38:37 06/30/14 Mon Any "flack" I'd throw towards a "crown chaser" would be in fun. I'll never understand why if you have this interest & 'hobby' of competing in pageants, why you should "gracefully retire from the spotlight" after doing any more than 2 systems, or 3 or 4 pageants. Screw that. Do football players retire after winning the Super Bowl? Do you NOT return to the Olympics because you won the gold medal last time & wouldn't want to be a "medal chaser" ? Bullcrap! Honey, if you love doing pageants you can do them until you fall off your walker at Ms. Senior USA!! More power to you. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:35:42 06/30/14 Mon I've got no problem with crown chasing. I love me some Anastagia Pierre types! What turned me off about AR is the gimmicks with her double mastectomy. Cheapens a legitimately huge experience for real women all in the name of a publicity ploy/sob story. Spare me the we don't know about her circumstances stuff, because I'm not buying any of it. (NT) -- If you're going to chase a crown do it with your beauty, not all the other BS., 10:20:00 07/01/14 Tue You are ridiculous. She is getting better with age, and has achieved great success. Why would she turn down the opportunities presented to her if she loves what she is doing? Quit being such a hater and let this girl enjoy her life and the opportunities she has been awarded. And if you dont like her, find someone else to fawn over... I'm a big fan! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:08:49 07/09/14 Wed Stacey - Please identify the lovely finalists in the photo above. (NT) -- Thanks!, 15:52:54 06/30/14 Mon Miss U.S. International - Samantha Brooks (California), Miss U.S. Supranational - Allyn Rose (Maryland), 1st Runner Up: Shelynne Hoyt (California), 2nd Runner Up: LaKea Burrison (Georgia), 3rd Runner Up: Kelly Kirstein (Michigan), 4th Runner Up: Kylie Hurd (Colorado) (NT) -- USBModStacey, 23:06:43 06/30/14 Mon Shelynne Holt is hottttt! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 11:12:04 07/09/14 Wed Allyn Rose should easily make the TOP-10 in Poland and achieve the best American performance in Miss SUPRANATIONAL's 6-year history. (NT) -- Best US rep to the pageant so far, 09:10:26 07/07/14 Mon I know I'm a little late to the game here, so sorry for bumping this up. But does anyone know for a fact that Allyn hasn't already had the surgery?? She looks very small breasted in these photos, almost flat chested. Anyone?? Anyone?? Beuller?? (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 20:50:16 07/09/14 Wed I believe she stated that she was still weighing her options so I'm going with no (NT) -- I applaud her careful thought, 07:20:55 07/10/14 Thu

Subject: A final question I would love to see...
Author: Doot [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:53:16 07/09/14 Wed "What can men learn from pageants?" So what's the crown-winning answer? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Does anyone know of a site where I could find photos of previous Miss Venezuela Universe queens competing at Miss U?
Author: LatinStyle [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:58:46 07/09/14 Wed Hi all- I am helping coach a young woman who's personal style reminds me of our Miss Venezuela queens at Miss Universe. Does anyone know of a site with candids of these queens or photos that show their interview outfits? Would really appreciate any tips. Thank you! (So wish Oz covered Miss U like she does Miss USA/TUSA! Oz you are a Godsend for those and LOVE your site!!) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The only one I can think of is : www.bellezavenezolana.net, but these photos are prior to when they head to Miss Universe. (NT) -- SexyDrew82, 13:13:25 07/09/14 Wed Thank you so much! (NT) -- LatinaStyle, 21:08:17 07/09/14 Wed

Subject: Anyone here worked with Future Productions? I am wondering what the experience is like as a titleholder. Are they going to get a girl prepared to win Miss USA? Asking because I saw the Vanbros posting and I'm curious about these directors as well. Thanks!
Author: Curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:39:57 07/08/14 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Bump (NT) -- Q, 19:58:24 07/08/14 Tue I would be curious as well. (NT) -- FP girl, 20:07:21 07/09/14 Wed

Subject: Which pageants allow you to compete in other pageants during your reign?
Author: Miss America and Miss usa do not. What about US Internation, United states, Earth or world [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:30:57 07/05/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I doubt World would. Morley gets cranky about her girls joining other pageants before or after competing in World. I'll assume the big ones won't like it. Also, other countries send their girls to a variety of lower-level gigs. I think Miss Canada trains by joining rinky-dink latin pageants for experience. Like Banana Coffee Queen and such. (NT) -- eloise, 20:40:47 07/05/14 Sat I remember one Venezuela girl won Reyna Hispanoamericana (I think) before she Miss World and she still got 2nd runner up. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:22:01 07/05/14 Sat I think that might be a myth, Eloise. I also competed at few of these smaller Latin American pageants in the early 2000's and there were many contestants from South, Central and North American countries (and Caribbean nations) and many of those contestants gained the experience they needed to do well in the Big Four in months or years to follow. I can name appx 10 contestants including a Miss World from Peru who I personally competed with and they were not hurt by participating in the smaller pageants. Hope that helps. (NT) -- Snowflake, 22:22:02 07/06/14 Sun Canada has a nice system in place, one of the runner-ups goes to Miss International, 5 of them per year go to Nicaragua for a humanitarian mission and there are these smaller Latin American pageants... that is why it is easy to see who is the fav of the organization, as exemple Chanel already competed at Intl and already went to Nicaragua a few years ago, so it was obvious the org loves her. The drawback of it all is that many competitive girls get lost in the shuffle, as exemple there was a 6 footer blond stunner named Joanie Roy at this year's MU Canada but she did not even make the top 20 (and would have been a sure semi-finalist at MU). (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 00:19:21 07/07/14 Mon But isn't it true the contestants are left largely on their own to prepare for Miss Universe? A few of their reps of late have hinted as such. (NT) -- Invested national directors are crucial for suce$$$ at Miss Universe., 12:07:23 07/09/14 Wed You should probably stick to one a year (NT) -- I think, 21:01:49 07/05/14 Sat you don't have to stick to one a year. It actually is a good practice for them to keep competing. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 13:03:33 07/09/14 Wed I have seen reigning local MAO titleholders compete in USA state pageants before..post MAO state pageant. I've also seen someone hold a World title and compete in & win an MAO loal while reigning with the World title BEFORE MIss World. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 02:39:04 07/06/14 Sun Miss U.S. International only required you to compete at the national event if you are representing a state that only holds a casting call or is an AtLarge state (not many of those left). If you are a state winner, you are bound by that state director's contract. Perfect example of us allowing, last summer Yvette Bennett and Desiree Perez, competed last summer as their respective states, did not win the national title, went on that same fall to compete for their Miss USA state events and won them both. Both went on of course to compete in Miss USA last month. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 12:59:11 07/09/14 Wed What about Miss United states? I would like to compete for state but also want to compete in MAO. (NT) -- How does their state work? Are they like US international if you compete at state and go to nation on lose can you compete the same year in MAO even thought your reign is not up for state?, 19:31:22 07/09/14 Wed

Subject: http://www.pageantology.com/blog/2014/6/19/5-ways-to-rock-an-interview

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Pageantology- Shandi Finnessey
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Date Posted: 18:06:21 07/09/14 Wed

Hi everyone! I wanted to share some advice on how to kick butt at your interviews for all those competing in pageants. You may find some of it useful... Maybe not. But either way, I wanted to pass it on to those who could use it.
Hope you're all enjoying your summer!!
XO, Shandi

http://www.pageantology.com/blog/2014/6/19/5-ways-to-rock-an-interview

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Subject: Jessica McRaney
Author: RockyGirl [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:35:29 07/09/14 Wed Maybe I missed it but was it ever noted that Jessica McRaney, MS-USA 09 & MS-TUSA 04, is the DAUGHTER of Gerald McRaney, ie MAJOR DAD?!?!? How am I just now finding this out?? I freaking loved that show! This is according to http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/gerald-mcraney/bio/151866 which I realize may not be accurate... but my interest is piqued! Last edited by author: Wed July 09, 2014 10:40:21 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I am close friends with Jessica McRaney Mathis and this is not true. (NT) -- Louisiana Friend, 10:54:27 07/09/14 Wed Aw, rats. (NT) -- RG, 14:03:07 07/09/14 Wed Just because he has a daughter also named "Jessica McRaney" doesn't mean it is the same. People do had the same name.It amazes me how people think sometimes, lol. (NT) -- WV, 15:39:01 07/09/14 Wed Okay, but they're also in Mississippi. It amazes me how rude people can be sometimes, lol. (NT) -- RG, 16:34:35 07/09/14 Wed

Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY CASSIDY!!!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:56:07 07/05/14 Sat Today is Cassidy's 20th birthday! I'll miss her when she passes on her title but I'm sure she'll be going on to big things :D [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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~~~HApPy♥BiRthDaY~~~ here are some puppies! (NT) -- eloise, 20:15:12 07/05/14 Sat Happy belated birthday! You had a very amazing year! Wow, you will be in the Bahama's in just a few weeks! Thank you for all that you did during your reign! Amazing! (NT) -- AB, 01:26:52 07/09/14 Wed

Subject: Happy birhday Logan!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:51:17 06/20/14 Fri Today is Logan's 20th birthday :) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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WHEN will she compete in the Miss division? (NT) -- After graduation?!!?, 03:16:34 06/21/14 Sat I totally loved her - does anyone know if she is planning on competing anymore? (NT) -- djm, 19:20:49 06/21/14 Sat i read she might compete for miss america do not know if it is true though (NT) -- catalina, 23:29:42 06/21/14 Sat I'm happy if she join miss america! Totally is different compare miss usa! I like miss america show! Show more talent and I find out miss america more intelligent than miss usa!!! (NT) -- But I do wish she join miss usa, cos I want to see her in miss universe!!, 00:58:02 06/22/14 Sun Logan's remarkable qualities are better suited, appreciated & valued in the Miss AMERICA system. (NT) -- MAO scout, 00:20:15 07/07/14 Mon Knock it off she did great in BOTH systems and was a great miss teen usa. No need to dredge up the Mao v usa crap again. (NT) -- She was respected in both systems, 00:29:21 07/07/14 Mon I have a feeling we'll see logan at both Miss USA and Miss America (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 08:44:59 07/07/14 Mon I have a friend who attended the recent Miss CT pageant and saw Logan there on stage. He said that she still is beautiful but looked very heavy in the thighs. Anyway she indicated when she spoke that she seemed to be leaning toward the MAO rather than MUO for her future plans. Also the new Miss CT, Acacia, is gorgeous on stage. (NT) -- !!, 10:02:23 07/07/14 Mon Frankly speaking, Logan's facial beauty is neither Miss USA nor Miss UNIVERSE material..... And she's very prudent & smart to switch to the MAO system. (NT) -- GREAT pageant move, Logan! I earnestly look forward to seeing her as a future Miss AMERICA., 10:23:18 07/07/14 Mon What's wrong with her facial beauty? I think your assessment is very harsh. (NT) -- disagree, 11:23:46 07/07/14 Mon I was at that pageant and saw (and spoke) to Logan. She looked very fit to me. She will never have very thin thighs, or be a very slender girl for that matter. However, I thought she looked like she was in great shape. (NT) -- Fit, 22:38:01 07/08/14 Tue I'd love to see Logan compete on the Miss America stage! I can see her doing very well in that system as well. However, she already has a national title, so I feel doing well in the MUO system would be difficult for her, unfortunately. We've seen it happen before :/ (NT) -- Groove, 11:36:06 07/07/14 Mon

Subject: What's happening here?
Author: eloise [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:35:02 07/06/14 Sun Is someone running a fake Supra? I hope we're sending Allyn to the right pageant. lol jk. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Long story short: the directors of Miss Supranational had a falling out and now both of them are running a pageant under that name. (NT) -- asdfghjkl, 16:31:48 07/06/14 Sun Well done Stacey! Your gorgeous blonde delegate is my actual choice to succeed reigning queen, Mutya Johanna Datul, on December 5th in Krynica-Zdroj, POLAND. (NT) -- Realistically, Filipinos aren't anticipating a back-to-back win, but expect Yvethe Santiago to be in the TOP-5 mix., 09:44:14 07/07/14 Mon I think and hope she will do very well at Supranational. She has a strong interview and great stage presence. I think she is just what they are looking for. The above post is correct, the people who split off from the owner are trying to start their own version. (NT) -- USBModStacey, 10:36:01 07/08/14 Tue World Vision kid begging for donations? (NT) -- 25 cents a day will get her a lipstick color made this decade., 15:54:56 07/08/14 Tue I'm tickled by your black humor!........ (NT) -- BamaMan, is that you again?, 16:43:15 07/08/14 Tue

Subject: How did you guys re-act when you saw this for the first time?
Author: eloise [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:24:19 06/25/14 Wed I think it's pretty out there, regardless of era. But it's Venezuela so it's totally ok. I genuinely believe only a country like VZ can take a dress like this all the way to 1st ru. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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At the time, that gown was beautiful. Still puzzled how Dayanara won the year Milka competed. (NT) -- and i'm in NEVADA, 00:50:52 06/26/14 Thu It's because of her sash. If some other country wore her sash, I don't think they're make it far with this gown. Facially, she's pretty but puzzled how Australia, Spain, and Brazil failed to advance (NT) -- Samuel, 01:38:50 06/26/14 Thu Milka became 2nd RU behind Colombia (1st) & Dayanara. My faves though were Australia and Brazil. (NT) -- Pete of PDB, 02:40:36 06/26/14 Thu The first time I saw it (and today still), I thought it was kind of ridiculous. However, she was very lovely and I prefered her to Puerto Rico & Colombia. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 02:47:19 06/26/14 Thu I thought "It's a memory to last a lifetime". Ha-Ha. (NT) -- Smile Pretty, 14:28:29 06/29/14 Sun I screamed. I LOVED it. (NT) -- Twinx, 08:11:53 06/26/14 Thu The gown is over the top, but I still would've crowned Milka that year (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 08:30:59 06/26/14 Thu CaliDude, I read in one of those Latina weekly newspapers (my Spanish is horrible, so I asked a co-worker to translate for me) and he verified what I'd struggled to translate: Milka actually won Miss Universe. The results were read in the reversed order and Dick Clark was given the list incorrectly. Someone did the scoring tally wrong and however they do it, five points for the win, zero points for third; whatever). I was furious because Milka was one of the most beautiful women I'd ever seen and I was sooooooo upset, just simply could not FATHOM that Dayanara had won. Horrible choice for Miss Universe. I loved Miss Australia that year, too. (NT) -- Twinx, 14:48:19 06/26/14 Thu I too could not understand how Dayanara won that year. I would've went with Milka or Paola of the final 3 and also liked Australia and Brazil. Another theory that I read was that the judges were split between Venezuela and Colombia so Dayanara ended up winning by default. Either way I still would've went with Milka despite her numerous calls for World Peace, Unity, and Democracy (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 15:46:29 06/26/14 Thu This one came close and she took it all the way! (NT) -- NEQueen, 08:41:44 06/26/14 Thu I thought Olivia looked like a Holiday Barbie! a really really sexy Holiday Barbie! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 08:52:34 06/26/14 Thu I remember thinking it's a bit maybe over-designed. Without the trim I'd have liked it more. Thing is, anything she wore was overshadowed by her beauty. She should've won that year IMO. Dayanara Torres was to me the beauty pageant equivalent of fingernails on the chalkboard. (NT) -- ..,., 09:53:00 06/26/14 Thu At one time, Venezuela always wore the most over the top fabric heavy gowns so when she came out, I just thought Osmel forgot to take his meds again. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 10:20:29 06/26/14 Thu I totally remember the words that came out of my mind: "Who chose that ridiculous gown for her?" One of the most ridiculous gowns in pageant history (NT) -- Philly Fan, 10:36:46 06/26/14 Thu I think it looks beautiful in a way, not sure how it looked in the context of early 1990s, I do not think it must have been that bad. Milka was on fire the WHOLE night. Here is a resume of her participation: (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 10:45:40 06/26/14 Thu My god!! Look at her crown when she won Miss Venezuela! It's the approximate size and shape of the Guggenheim Museum. -- Doot, 20:44:27 06/26/14 Thu I actually loved Milka's gown. I thought it was very couture and Cinderella-like. Ha! The color actually complemented her skin tone and Milka definitely carried it well. (NT) -- TRTW, 11:04:11 06/26/14 Thu Initial reaction was WTF, but I've grown to love this gown. With regard to the results, I put Miss Universe 1993 in the "over my dead body" file because the results were heavily influenced by a judge who had clear favorites and clear "unfavorites" (ie, "she will win only over my dead body"). This happened at Uni 92 (Kim Alexis loved Namibia; Colombia would win only over her dead body), Uni 93 (Matsui loved Finland and India w/ PR being the least of the top 3 evils), Uni 94 (Grudt loved India; Venezuela and Colombia would win only over her dead body), and USA 2010 (Conner loved Michigan; Oklahoma would only win over her dead body). -- mjoon, 22:58:28 06/26/14 Thu I thought when I first saw it, that she looked like a delicious orange wedding cake, that gown was so huge at the bottom, an audience could have fit in there, lol. I thought her little sister was going to get swallowed up by the gown, lol. Luckily she presented herself in it well, but I first thought that this choice may cost her. (NT) -- facts-therealone, 12:46:42 06/27/14 Fri Do you think Deise Nunes de Sousa (Brazil '86) would've made Top 5 had she chosen a more spectacular gown? (NT) -- deise fan, 20:47:14 06/27/14 Fri oops, wrong thread. sorry. (NT) -- deisefan, 20:57:19 06/27/14 Fri I always thought this gown was too much at Universe, but was not surprised. I watched Milka compete in a similar red gown, but without the gold lace applicade at Miss Venezuela the prior year. I don’t know how Milka could have scored higher than Leila Schuster (Brazil) in this phase of competition. (NT) -- MLB, 12:53:53 06/30/14 Mon I loved Leila's gown that year. So regal. I think her downfall was that she was on the shorter side. (NT) -- She probably looked tiny on stage compared to the lines of Colombia, Venezuela, and USA that year who were all glamazons., 14:40:53 06/30/14 Mon To this day, I find this a head scratcher - I do not understand how Leila went from the preliminary favorite to 7th after the final competition. The judging panel, all of whom judged her in the preliminary competition, placed her in the lower half of each phase of final night competition; to add insult to injury, Dayanara scored better than her in all phases. (NT) -- MLB, 12:59:31 07/02/14 Wed I never saw Miss Universe 1993 in full but the results seem STRANGE, really strage. With Leila Schuster, Voni Delfos and especially MILKA CHULINA being on fire throughout the whole night, how come Dayanara ended up with a crown, it's nothing short of mind boggling! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 16:39:42 07/02/14 Wed Leila did everything right on finals night. I am with you, it was a total head scratcher she didn't advance higher. Spain was also a shock not to advance farther after getting a high preliminary score. Dayanara was never my cup of tea. I wanted Australia or Brazil to win that year. (NT) -- PF-Indy, 19:11:44 07/04/14 Fri Leila was Miss Brazil, right? (NT) -- My mother picked her to win, saying that she had such nice, chiseled features, 21:08:29 07/05/14 Sat The barbaric audience are to blame for the results. I'm sure none of the judges felt comfortable after Miss Mexico failed to make the cut and the audience started jeering. Through all this commotion, they started to show support for Dayanara who looked like an unfit pipsqueak on stage next to the other stunners. My Top 5 would have been: BRAZIL, SPAIN, COLOMBIA, VENEZUELA, and AUSTRALIA. (NT) -- Michelle McLean, 16:03:20 07/08/14 Tue

Subject: 15 years of Miss Florida USA...
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:04:45 07/08/14 Tue Who is your favourite??? Bigger versions of each photo are on my Facebook page... https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10154338054465384.1073742141.435124740383&type=1 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Michelle Aguirre and Carrie Meewha missing the cut entirely will always be a head scratcher to me. 2003 was a competitive year at Miss USA, but I'll always say the results didn't reflect that. And Lisette being cut at the top 16 is another pageant travesty. Their titleholders get better every year. Maybe this will finally be their year! (NT) -- JennNYC, 02:52:50 07/08/14 Tue Carrie Meewha is hands down my all time favorite. I still don't see how that girl was over looked. She is was/is stunning. (NT) -- jmo, 10:01:42 07/08/14 Tue I know I'm relatively new to the pageant circuit (I've only been involved since about 2004 in Louisiana, and since 2011 nationally)... But my goodness, Lisette Garcia is still such a godess to me. She is the biggest shocker in my recent USA history, not advancing out of swimsuit (but being the best in the swimsuit round)... head scratcher... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:20:43 07/08/14 Tue Kristen Ludeke! (NT) -- how time flies..., 14:08:55 07/08/14 Tue

Subject: Pageant Update interview #3
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:24:14 07/07/14 Mon This week's interview is with first-year contestant Melissa Ziegler who is competing at Miss Florida USA 2015 this weekend. Melissa is a UCF grad with a passion for cheesecakes (yes, I'm craving one right now) who has gained a new respect for fitness through her preparation for Miss Florida USA. Fun fact: her mother competed for Miss Ecuador 1988! http://www.pageantupdate.info/interviews/melissaziegler.htm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This girl is stunning (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 23:02:32 07/07/14 Mon I agree! I was looking for a newbie to interview and she really caught my eye. Fun girl too, I mean who can resist cheesecake?! (NT) -- oz-usb, 23:13:28 07/07/14 Mon Interesting... Not at the top of my list. But certainly worth keeping an eye on... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 00:36:52 07/08/14 Tue

Subject: Pageants for short girls
Author: Meshelle [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:56:00 07/07/14 Mon Hello. Does anyone know if there are decent pageants for short girls? I mean really really short girls. I thought about competing in regular pageants without height requirements like Miss USA or Miss America but the reality is I don't think I can compete with girls a head taller than me! I'm only 5 feet tall on stocking feet. By the way I'm 20 and weigh 102 lbs. Any advice would be appreciated. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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leticia castro does one for girls and I believe there are petite pageants! (NT) -- s.xoxo, 22:23:00 07/07/14 Mon

Subject: Word from the GURU board: NO Kathryn Dunn in the top 15 at Texas-MAO.
Author: :( [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:41:29 07/05/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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is she going to mis texas ( or can she) (NT) -- catalina, 22:39:26 07/05/14 Sat That's too bad, she can't seem to catch a break. I think she wasted those first couple of years at MAO and should have started with the MUO system first (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 23:02:35 07/05/14 Sat I share the same thoughts, PinkOfHearts. I didn't take the time to check out her talent or platform. Hope she tries again! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 00:39:46 07/06/14 Sun I'm actually very surprised by this. Talking with Kathryn I have come to know her as extremely personalble and friendly. She is also very outgoing, and seems like a near perfect fit for MAO. I'm very surprised she is not even in the top 15, much less the top 5. She still has a few years in MUO, but I thought she had a better shot at MAO. Their loss. :( (NT) -- ICEMAN, 23:30:40 07/05/14 Sat From what I read on the MAO board, there was a judges pick Top 14 and the People's Choice made the 15th spot. Had they gone with a Top 15 + PC, Kathryn would've made it. (NT) -- Groove, 12:16:58 07/06/14 Sun While that was the thought, it was said that the girl in 15th was there because of her scores even with the people's choice. (NT) -- :), 00:39:13 07/07/14 Mon Ohhhh. Yeah, that part was a little confusing. Thanks for clarifying! (NT) -- Groove, 12:46:02 07/07/14 Mon I just don't get it. This news has the power to ruin my night. SMH (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 23:52:52 07/05/14 Sat I don't get it either. Really thought this was her best shot. Really thought we would see her up there. (NT) -- Butterfly, 00:17:17 07/06/14 Sun I love Kathryn, and have become a big fan in the last few years. She was not strong this week at all. Her talent (she did cotten eyed joe) was very weak. Some people there watching said is reminded them of a very elemetary jr high recital piece. She was the first runner up to the Quality of Life award (for platform work). Kathryn was in a VERY strong group prelim nights and the scores weren't being thrown her way. It didn't help her she had strong girls before her in the line up as well. (NT) -- whiteknight, 02:28:48 07/06/14 Sun there is a picture of her on fb with a plaque she was awarded for 16th place (NT) -- sooo close, 10:58:21 07/06/14 Sun That's a really tacky consolation prize for being kept out because of her affiliation with USA. I have no doubt that the org board didn't want her near the title because of the animosity between to systems, so they gave her a consolation prize and paraded it around in front of everyone. Poor girl. I feel really badly for her. (NT) -- ., 15:03:32 07/07/14 Mon Can't blame her for trying - I think I read one of her Instagram comments and someone said she should go to MAO and she didn't really feel like her talent was very strong. But there's nothing wrong with giving the last year of eligibility a go. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 11:03:00 07/06/14 Sun Those damn line ups..the same goes for the South Carolina - Wyoming group; the most difficult line-up at Miss USA. Even if there's a well-deserving and board favorite Miss South Dakota, good luck making the cut in a competitive group, and I HATE that :'( (NT) -- Groove, 12:14:44 07/06/14 Sun I agree. This year they skipped Texas, but picked up Wisconsin, who deserved her placement. As well as Virginia who also deserved hers. But poor Vermont always gets ocverlooked even when they send worthy contestants, and I felt West Virginia and Wyoming sent strong reps this year as well. Hi Groove!!! (NT) -- SanFranGuy, 16:43:12 07/06/14 Sun Hey there, SFG! :) (NT) -- Groove, 16:12:15 07/07/14 Mon Kathryn, I'd be totally fine if you state hopped ;) Then again, I have no issues with state hopping, so whatever lol... (NT) -- Groove, 12:18:31 07/06/14 Sun I agree. I think if she state hopped, she could win a state title, and go on to make the cut at Miss USA. That is how strong Texas can be. I love Kathryn. She is sweet and kind, has a great personality, and is gorgeous to boot. (NT) -- SanFranGuy, 17:20:10 07/06/14 Sun I would be very excited to see her state hop. She would be such a great representative. (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 12:50:17 07/07/14 Mon She is a beautiful girl. From what I was told and as a previous poster said, it was her talent. A miss talent to Cotten Eyed Jo was just working. I would love to see her win the state title she wants so bad. She is a stunning young lady and so many rave how kind and real she is. (NT) -- jmo, 12:24:57 07/06/14 Sun I wish Kathryn would go back to the styling/look she had when she first started competing. She looked gorgeous, fresh and like she was having fun. Over the past few years, I haven't been a huge fan of her as she comes over looking overprocessed. -- NYCNewsie (not signed in), 17:00:55 07/06/14 Sun This happens to so many who place high in their first pageant, they come back I think over prepped, over done and in that they lost the freshness and newness that got them in that place to begin with. I have heard others say the same thing about her. I did not see her compete but just heard how bad her talent was. (NT) -- jmo, 18:14:09 07/06/14 Sun She finished 16th. She got a plaque for it. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 18:24:02 07/06/14 Sun The reason why kathryn doesn't do well in pageants anymore is because it is not her life anymore. She doesn't need this to complete her. Dancing for the mavericks, starting her career, and spending time with her friends are her priorities. She competed this year for fun and is very happy with the outcome (NT) -- Know her, 20:23:51 07/06/14 Sun I know what you're trying to say, but be careful, because it could be construed that "the only reason that people who do well in pageants is because it is their life." (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 21:33:54 07/06/14 Sun There's nothing wrong with that. I think it's great that girls shoot for the opportunity and really see the value in it. If a girl wins, it IS going to be a big part of her life during her reign. Anyone having a problem with that , just doesn't get it (which is unfortunately a lot of people). But we don't really care about those folks, do we? (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 12:59:55 07/07/14 Mon I do not think holding a local title will prevent Kathryn from competing at TX USA this year (if she decides to do that). Technically, she can also give up her local crown to compete at TX USA, especially because this was her final year of eligibility at MAO. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 00:34:42 07/07/14 Mon MAO 'releases' contestants at midnight following the state pageant so Kathryn is allowed to compete at Texas USA. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 06:32:12 07/07/14 Mon Not all states do this---North Carolina doesn't. They own their local MAO titleholders until a ne local queen is crowned or 365 days pass. (NT) -- Limits a lot of girls, 20:45:13 07/07/14 Mon She does not need to show up at Miss TX! She would be "lucky" to make the Top 15, but not Top 5 material! Sorry!! If she just doing this for fun now, then she needs to take a good hard look at pageants!! They are way to expensive and time consuming to be doing for fun!! I say stick with your career!! (NT) -- just saying......, 09:09:53 07/07/14 Mon I agree. Saying you did it for fun when its your 5th time to do it... it was just for fun. If its just fun, don't bother showing up because I want someone who wants to WIN. Its a slap in the face to her local sponsors who gave money and time and resources for her to just say she was doing it for fun. I go shopping for fun, running, crafting, working out... those are things you do in your spare time. Using other people's thousands of dollars for "fun" is a lie. (NT) -- ., 15:11:17 07/07/14 Mon

Subject: Swimsuit trainers in NYC
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Subject: Incredible
Author: BamaMan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:05:49 07/07/14 Mon Just found this crazy news about Miss USA. Embedding it here for all to view or follow this link: Last edited by author: Mon July 07, 2014 07:07:28 Edited 2 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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LOL... But lame... You should do one with a fake location for Miss Universe. Like it's going to be held in Dubai or Morocco even though that nation won't be represented in the main pageant. (NT) -- Zero-Defect, 08:08:25 07/07/14 Mon I love it!! Grateful for your humor, BamaMan! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 10:39:39 07/07/14 Mon Oh Bama I think this is your best yet. Teehee! (NT) -- oz-usb, 10:59:47 07/07/14 Mon I seriously can't get over the time and effort spent on this, not to mention the professional wording! "...Emergency Committee..." lmao!!! (NT) -- Groove, 12:01:31 07/07/14 Mon ROFLMAO Now that's prize winning journalism! Great way to start off the week. Thank you! (NT) -- Twiggenberries, 12:24:58 07/07/14 Mon so now the press confuses not just Miss USA with Miss America, but Paula Shugart confuses who is who. Do your job Paula!! Learn the name of your winner even if it is close to the first name of Miss America, you should probably know it! (NT) -- ..,., 14:54:32 07/07/14 Mon Bama, you are so smart and funny! Your 'real life' family and friends are lucky to have you on a daily basis. Is there any chance any of us have meet you? Do you attend pageants? All USB posters are cool, but you may be the coolest. (NT) -- GoldenBoy, 14:59:16 07/07/14 Mon i cant get over the gut on that girl in the middle! -- eeeek!, 15:57:22 07/07/14 Mon Wow..this is getting SERIOUS with a Congressional delegation involved! (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 18:05:21 07/07/14 Mon Tiki, do you think this congressional involvement may be the reason for the serious disclosure of the host country? This is getting serious. (NT) -- Bostonian, 19:31:02 07/07/14 Mon

Subject: MISS UNITED STATES 2014 WILL BE COMPETING @ MISS WORLD DEC IN LONDON!!!!!
Author: Mrs. United States 2012 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:06:44 07/06/14 Sun Just announced as Miss United States 2014, South Carolina, crowned!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes, a girl who couldnt make top 5 at NC USA is representing USA at Miss World. (NT) -- Weird, 23:10:50 07/06/14 Sun The only thing weird is how absolutely stunning she is. Im confused as to how she didn't wipe the floor at NC USA. She gives off a Marissa Powell vibe. So happy she is representing the US at world!! (NT) -- Excited!, 23:21:02 07/06/14 Sun Yes weird that NC always has a off the wall winner. Looks like RPM needs to look into getting better judges for that state, no one decent but Kristen Dalton and Cooley (NT) -- Js, 23:55:23 07/06/14 Sun you'll only say those names because they won Miss USA. There are lots of incredible women who comes from NC, whether they win the national crown or not. It's not all about winning the big one. It's just a part of the experience. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 00:21:52 07/07/14 Mon come (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 00:24:50 07/07/14 Mon* The past 5 years they've sent clappers, RPM needs to get that state together. (NT) -- J's, 08:38:28 07/07/14 Mon Well, fingers crossed they send YOU next year. ;) lol, gimme a break (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 08:54:44 07/07/14 Mon Little too old sweetie but hoping for a win from Coble or Burrows, they could bring NC back the crown. (NT) -- ;), 09:32:16 07/07/14 Mon Are you talking about all of RPM or just North Carolina? Ashley Mills (NC) made the Top 10 (finished 7th) in 2013. One placement in the last 5 years isn't all that breathtaking, but if you look at the last 10 years, NC placed 5 times, including 2 national crowns! That's pretty damn good, IMO! (NT) -- Groove, 11:47:19 07/07/14 Mon I think that's great news . We finally have a pageant deciding the representative again. Good luck to her! (NT) -- [><], 23:17:30 07/06/14 Sun She was actually Miss NC United States. Here's some photos of her - CLICK IN. IDK what the criteria is for Miss World or how she will fare against other countries but I think she's very beautiful. -- lexis-PA, 23:25:36 07/06/14 Sun Her captivating deep blue eyes and winsome smile are her best assets. (NT) -- Sorry, her generic beauty does nothing for me!, 00:07:46 07/07/14 Mon Good news - but I am a little confused. I thought the age limit for Miss World was 24 and under, but this pageant accepts girls who are 29 and under. So does that mean that those who were over the age of 24 were not going to win? While I am happy to hear this news, it seems like it would be unfair to the others. (NT) -- What would have happened if someone 27 has won?, 23:31:29 07/06/14 Sun If the last 2 had been over age for Miss World the highest placing runner up of the correct age would have been allowed to go. (NT) -- Great opportunity, 23:38:44 07/06/14 Sun Let them fix it so that the final two are under 24 and call it a fair competition... (NT) -- Lady June, 11:39:26 07/07/14 Mon Well she's only 22 so it's fair (NT) -- Starz, 23:52:46 07/06/14 Sun I sincerely feel that Audra of North Dakota would be a better choice for Miss WORLD (NT) -- Believing in sending the best, 23:31:42 07/06/14 Sun Is it me or all the winners always from the same area(Mid Atlantic States)? (NT) -- Miss contestant, 23:41:49 07/06/14 Sun I think their numbers will increase substantially then! What a positive surprise these news must have been for the winner. As far as MW age limit goes, it does not seem that strict as exemple Assel Kuchukova was 27 when she competed at MU and she went to compete at MW that same year. According to wikipedia, the oldest girl competing this year is 26, (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 23:43:49 07/06/14 Sun Also, Vincenza Carrieri-Russo competed and did very well (2nd runner-up), it would have been cool to see her compete at MW. Jessica VerSteeg and Renata de Carvalho represented Iowa and Mass. respectively. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 23:50:19 07/06/14 Sun What I don't get is the age limits for this. Vincenza is 30 so they couldn't have sent her to Miss World anyway. Does that mean that they wouldn't have let her win? I actually thought she was competing in Ms with Whitney. (NT) -- oz-usb, 05:07:59 07/07/14 Mon I think had Vincenza won, they would have likely sent the 1st runner-up to World. I think they will change their age brackets for the next year's competition. The Miss World franchise question likely came all of a sudden so I do think it was too late to modify the pageant. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 11:00:27 07/07/14 Mon The United States pageant is experiencing strong growth and this development is only going to ensure that continues! (NT) -- I think it's great, 23:54:51 07/06/14 Sun But they still crown average girls! I watched stunning girls in Miss from Ohio and Texas get passed over for an average looking girl who won! Same in teen! They have a reputation for crowning average and not exceptional beauties! This girl who won is barely above average and typical Miss United States of late! They need to go back to crowning beauties like Courtney Turner! They let go two beauties tonight of her caliber! Crazy! Im disappointed with Miss United States pageant! (NT) -- Jmo, 00:24:43 07/07/14 Mon What a random surprise. The reigning Miss World was at the event too (NT) -- HCF, 01:34:20 07/07/14 Mon I heard Whitney Jones was 1RU yet again... poor thing! Ugh that must suck (for those who don't recognise her name, she was 1RU at both Miss NC USA & Miss SC USA back to back 2012-13) (NT) -- oz-usb, 02:53:29 07/07/14 Mon No, 1st run was Mae Ann Webb from SC (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 03:09:35 07/07/14 Mon Oh sorry Whitney was in Ms United States (NT) -- oz-usb, 04:46:28 07/07/14 Mon There are a handful of age divisions. Whitney Jones was 1st Runner Up in the Ms. United States division, which is different from the "Miss" apparently. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 08:57:15 07/07/14 Mon I've just looked this up: Miss United States age limit is up to 29. Miss World contestants must be under 25 at Miss World. So how does it work - because you'd have to think a large number of the Miss United States contestants wouldn't have been eligible to compete at Miss World. Were they given a chance to win? (NT) -- oz-usb, 05:17:28 07/07/14 Mon Oh duh I just realised someone else reached the same conclusion above :P but anyway, Vincenza is 30 so how did she compete in Miss? That's one reason I was confused because I thought she was competing in Ms with Whitney. Ah well I don't really get this system but it's nice to know there's a proper competition for Miss World again. Although yeah, I'd send Audra any day ;) (NT) -- oz-usb, 09:46:30 07/07/14 Mon this raises several red flags.... if this program accepts up to 29 year olds, then were all of those who competed and out od the range of Miss World, secretly not going to win. Glad there is a prelim to Miss World, but how it was handled was very crappy to the women who competed out of the age range and never had a chance to win. (NT) -- ., 06:49:38 07/07/14 Mon it makes perfect sense that this pageant received the franchise, since Isabella testified for Miss World against a certain person who was running Miss Teen World and if now sueing him herself. (NT) -- wow, 07:15:47 07/07/14 Mon Gee..I wonder who that is! haha (NT) -- T, 08:32:24 07/07/14 Mon Did you not read Isabella's written testimony? You could download the documents as they were filed. For a hot second, I thought she was in favor of Mr. Cruz. (NT) -- Lady June, 11:43:22 07/07/14 Mon I would be curious to know how many of those over the age of 26 actually made the top 15 or better and how many were in the top 5. I would be upset if I won, but one of my runner ups goes to Miss World, because I am ineligible. Best thing would be to lower the age requirement for Miss to match Miss World. I know Miss World will accept someone slightly over the age, but I seriously doubt they would accept let alone crown someone who 28. (NT) -- The Donald, 10:43:29 07/07/14 Mon Im not going to jump the gun on attacking the age limit thing. Maybe she just got the franchise and it was to late to change the age limit and tell girls they could not compete. or maybe she could not change the age limit and refund girls since then she would have to tell them and she was not allowed to disclose it until the pageant. There are many variables here. How many made top 15, who knows, but I think it is nice a pageant was finally held to get a USA rep. Now lets see how long it lasts... (NT) -- jmo, 11:44:15 07/07/14 Mon MW is arguably the 2nd most prestigious international pageant. The Miss US pageant wasn't that impressive prior to finding out this new info, but I imagine MANY former MUSA state winners will now be competing in Miss US, and I can see Miss US becoming the 2nd most prestigious national competition. While Miss America currently holds that spot, Miss America doesn't compete in an international pageant. I look forward to this actually. My home state of NV has quite a few duds compete for Miss US and I look forward to it becoming more competitive. Only thing that stinks is that, like many have mentioned already, the age limit. If women know you have to be 24 and under to compete at MW, they either A) won't compete in the state pageant for Miss US unless they are in the MW age group, or B) women over the age limit of MW WILL compete, and potentially win, which would be a bummer for the state they are representing, since the state will know that their delegate has no chance. Interesting. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 12:55:37 07/07/14 Mon 2nd most prestigious is stretching it, but IF and that is a big if, if they are consistent and are able to maintain the franchise over the years, no doubt the pageant will attract a lot of crossovers. Also, in reality Miss World is more popular and recognized in some countries including pretty much all of Europe. Of course, they will also have to know how to handle Julia and her tantrums, that is a different issue altogether. :) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 13:27:09 07/07/14 Mon I don't think it is yet, but I think it could be. Miss Universe and Miss World are the two most sought after international titles from what I gather, so I would think the two feeder pageants would be right up there, no? Either way, I really (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 13:55:35 07/07/14 Mon Look forward to it becoming a bigger and better competition :) (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 13:56:12 07/07/14 Mon The issue is the number of women who were allowed to compete despite not meeting the age requirement for Miss World. This has been in the works for some time and I seriously doubt Julia knew how many contestants would not qualify for Miss World before signing the agreement. The contestants were not given advanced notice and the reigning Miss World was literally hidden from view until she appeared on stage. If the directors had any integrity, they would have gone up to those who were over the age requirement and let them decide if they still wanted to compete for Miss U.S. but they would not have an opportunity to compete for Miss World. If they decided not to compete, they should have been given a full refund. I have known girls who competed in the past in this system and none were happy with their experience. I also find it interesting that the top 2 met the age requirement but the 2nd RU did not and I am sure is wondering if she even had a shot at winning. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 13:42:04 07/07/14 Mon To be honest though, I doubt ANY of the girls that initially signed up to compete even envisioned being at Miss World at the end of this. I think this DEAL between MW and Miss U.S. must have been signed at the last minute, no one knew about it until yesterday. I think they will modify age categories for next year, they can easily put 26+ girls in the MS category. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 14:22:06 07/07/14 Mon Miss World might have also given the winner a pass if she didn't meet the age requirements, at least this year. Didn't someone say elsewhere that people older than 26 were allowed to compete at Miss World? There were a couple of rare exceptions made. (NT) -- JennNYC (not logged in), 15:43:23 07/07/14 Mon This is where I am at. This was last minute, or was suppose to keep quiet. Either way people will complain and conspiracy theories will continue. I am going to wait and see if this franchise even continues in the US for a few years. I just have my doubts it will. But we will see. (NT) -- jmo, 15:45:49 07/07/14 Mon

Subject: Nia @ times square
Author: BreeZe [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:50:57 06/11/14 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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LOVE the dress! Definitely fit for Miss USA! (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 13:57:56 06/11/14 Wed That dress needs to be shipped back to the Hee Haw Museum where it belongs. There is nothing hip or relevant to it - no wonder people don't take Miss USA seriously. (NT) -- djm, 03:06:36 06/12/14 Thu LOL!!! So true, You can just see Minnie Pearl wearing this hideous thing... (NT) -- NoPonytailsPlease, 11:43:53 06/13/14 Fri I'm a devout Christian, but this photo makes me want to cuss like a demon straight outta hell. (NT) -- BamaMan, 11:26:19 06/13/14 Fri Halle Berry wore a version of it. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 17:37:00 06/13/14 Fri Meryl Streep, Katy Perry, Wendy Williams have worn it too (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 17:55:58 06/13/14 Fri I thought it looked better on video than in still pictures. (NT) -- SouthernGirl, 19:22:45 06/13/14 Fri THIS is her national costume! Couldn't be more AMERICAN. (NT) -- Red, White and Blue, 20:18:07 06/14/14 Sat Where's the Uncle Sam hat??? (NT) -- YeeHaw, 09:52:09 06/15/14 Sun I was reading about this couple on Yahoo. THey're in Brazil for the World Cup and getting lots of attention because of her pants. Miss USA should go this sexy patriotic route. (NT) -- Rogue, 00:04:54 06/17/14 Tue I like it better on Nia (NT) -- Beauty-Critic, 17:15:05 06/16/14 Mon ANY idea or suggestion for Nia's national costume??? (NT) -- Americana, 23:58:39 07/06/14 Sun Tried posting this earlier, but the first time this dress was worn by a Miss USA was 13 years ago, believe it or not! Kandace wore it in 2001 during her USO tour. (NT) -- ., 15:13:39 07/07/14 Mon

Subject: Putting a face to a name...
Author: Doot [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:17:35 07/06/14 Sun I see there's a cool new picture of our Mr USBs at the top of the page, but who is the gal standing among them? I kept waiting for this to come out in the wash or for someone else to ask... maybe everyone knows but me, LOL. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Our mod Stacey, who is also the director of Miss Intl/Supranational US. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:33:59 07/06/14 Sun Thanks! Hi Stacey, pleased to meet you :-) (NT) -- Doot, 22:25:58 07/06/14 Sun She is also the Mr. USB sponsor and "national director." :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 00:05:00 07/07/14 Mon it's good to finally see the face behind the handle. absolutely adore you, stace <3 (NT) -- dink, 00:39:20 07/07/14 Mon

Subject: Rate that dress!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:15:14 06/12/14 Thu I rate it .... um... well I'd rather not say :P (but I love Nia. Even though, as much as i love Nia, I can't stop thinking how much I'd love to see Audra doing this instead. Ugh). [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Oz, all I can say is that I rate this dress....VERY PATRIOTIC ;-) (NT) -- SexyDrew82, 00:20:35 06/12/14 Thu I actually quite like the dress! I don't think I've ever seen a Miss USA so patriotic (other than NTL costume), I think she really pulled it off considering it's so much dress and borders little house on the prairie style-wise. It makes her look like a Miss USA you can take serious, not one that tries to be too sexy in a too tight, too short dress. And tell me about it, Audra would have been wonderful! She's drop dead gorgeous, it makes me sad to think that we won't see her on a stage again-someone get her to Miss World or International please!!! (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 01:22:16 06/12/14 Thu That dress is HIDEOUS - and that is putting it mildly. (NT) -- djm, 02:56:50 06/12/14 Thu I would so much rather see Audra. Nia is a beautiful girl but Audra has the "it" factor. This dress please send it back....it does nothing for your figure! (NT) -- westtnmommy, 08:38:07 06/12/14 Thu While I do not care for the dress, Nia works it very well. Its almost like its meant to be worn by Miss USA... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 09:01:07 06/12/14 Thu Too much of the pattern. Perhaps keep the shirt, but wear a solid color skirt or even blue jeans. (NT) -- MLB, 14:55:04 06/12/14 Thu Loved her she interviews well. (NT) -- Bubbles, 15:20:09 06/12/14 Thu I normally hate overly patriotic attire (all countries incl) but I don't mind this on her. I think it's totally appropriate for what she was doing. It should never see the light of day (or night) after this though. (NT) -- eloise, 15:21:53 06/12/14 Thu I agree. Usually they are a little much and just downright gaudy. But I like this. (NT) -- JennNYC, 16:07:26 06/12/14 Thu lol. "You look like the 4th of July, makes me want a hot dog reeeeal bad." (NT) -- eloise, 16:15:35 06/12/14 Thu Hahahahahahaha. (NT) -- HiJake, 16:47:43 06/12/14 Thu L (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 15:34:34 06/12/14 Thu I love this dress on her. I agree that this totally works, considering she's our new Miss USA. Although Audra was my pick for Miss USA (as well as for Miss Teen USA 2011), I do love me some Nee-San. (NT) -- Groove, 18:54:20 06/12/14 Thu Mixed opinions about the outfit. Don't hate it. Don't love it either. Perfect ensemble to join Miss Florida USA line dancing Wednesday night (or was it Tuesday?) (NT) -- Freud, 01:48:00 06/13/14 Fri What on God's green Earth???? LMAO!!! (NT) -- BamaMan, 11:05:42 06/13/14 Fri Luv her to bits for being sooo AMERICAN! (NT) -- Yankee doodle, 20:25:30 06/14/14 Sat It would've been perfect if she had worn the Uncle Sam hat! (NT) -- YeeHaw, 10:14:13 06/15/14 Sun HAPPY Independence Day everybody! (NT) -- 4th of July, 23:48:44 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: Miss Austria 2014
Author: me3 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:41:19 07/04/14 Fri Miss Austria 2014 was chosen last evening and she is Julia Furdea. Apparently she will go to both Miss World and Universe this year, if they do not coincide. MU 2013 Gabriela Isler served on the jury along with former Miss World Kaiene Aldorino. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She's cute. Better than the last delegate, IMO. (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 11:06:41 07/04/14 Fri (NT) -- me3, 12:37:22 07/04/14 Fri I want to like Molly because she seems like such a sweet person but when she's around other beauty queens she always looks like she could be their mom. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 13:40:42 07/04/14 Fri Molly seems to be traveling a lot more than her recent predecessors. A bunch of new places too: Philippines, Morocco, Austria, Curacao. I like it. (NT) -- HiJake, 19:52:05 07/04/14 Fri Good heavens, those are the craziest sashes I have ever seen. They are as wide as a sheet of butcher paper, and putting the corporate sponsors on there is pretty gross. -- Doot, 13:45:41 07/04/14 Fri The new Miss AUSTRIA looks like she could be Nia Sanchez's younger sister. (NT) -- The year of generic beauties, 20:10:50 07/04/14 Fri Molly looks great. Your negative post is ridiculous! (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 00:19:20 07/05/14 Sat Hopefully, they'll keep the runner-up "at the ready" to compete at World or Universe, because I think they are pretty darn likely to be very close together. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 22:53:06 07/04/14 Fri They look like department store girls. And there's a big sale on sparkly dresses. (NT) -- eloise, 20:30:12 07/05/14 Sat Austria used to do fairly well in the 50's & 60's, so it would be pretty awesome if Miss Austria would make the cut. With that said, the winner looks like she's 14 years old, for cryin out loud. (NT) -- Groove, 00:20:52 07/06/14 Sun Yes, AUSTRIA will be joining BELGIUM, FRANCE, RUSSIA & SOUTH AFRICA to compete in both Miss UNIVERSE & Miss WORLD pageants. (NT) -- Welcome to Club G2, 23:22:32 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: Just saw a post on Facebook where Miss United States will be representing at Miss World.
Author: fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:05:13 07/06/14 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: MISS USA: All Stars (VOTING NOW OPEN)
Author: Zero-Defect [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:15:41 07/01/14 Tue The top 20 battle it out for your votes, and a place in the Top 15!! Voting is now open... Class of 2014 is most successful with 9 out of 20 placements. 2013 has six placements followed by 2012 with just 5. 18 States are represented, and Nevada and Georgia have 2 candidates each. ----------------------------------------------------------- Contestants are split into five groups of 4. You have to ELIMINATE one contestant from each group. Group 1: Choose the contestant you want to eliminate 1. Lauren Lundeen, Oklahoma 2. Olivia Culpo, Rhode Island 3. Stacie Juris, Illinois 4. Brittany Booker, Texas Group 2: Choose the contestant you want to eliminate 1. Brittany Oldehoff, Florida 2. Erin Brady, Connecticut 3. Brittany Guidry, Louisiana 4. Kristen Danyal, Michigan Group 3: Choose the contestant you want to eliminate 1. Taylor Burton, Maryland 2. Marissa Powell, Utah 3. Nia Sanchez, Nevada 4. Hayley O'Brien, Minnesota Group 4: Choose the contestant you want to eliminate 1. Chelsea Welch, West Virginia 2. Jade Kelsall, Nevada 3. Angelia Layton, Utah 4. Audra Mari, North Dakota Group 5: Choose the contestant you want to eliminate 1. Tiana Griggs, Georgia 2. Cassandra Kunze, California 3. Mary Margaret McCord, Alabama 4. Jazz Wilkins, Georgia Voting Rules: 1. Reply in the thread as a click in and eliminate one contestant from each group, they must come from the group. You cannot eliminate two contestants from one specific group. 2. Voting closes on Sunday, 6 July and the Top 15 will be announced on Monday, 7 July. 3. The first 5 replies that have a REGISTERED handle will be used in a special twist later in the Top 10 round of competition. So the faster you reply, the better. 4. Good Luck :-) Last edited by author: Tue July 01, 2014 07:18:18 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Touggggghhhh!!!! Click in for my answers :D -- oz-usb, 07:31:36 07/01/14 Tue Hey OZ, after my apologies and they were sincere, I'd like to have your e-mail address because I'm a very old pageant lover and I'll tell you why. My family would kill me if I post. LOL (NT) -- no name, 19:23:23 07/02/14 Wed My choices inside... -- Zero-Defect, 07:38:36 07/01/14 Tue click in -- Mark S., 08:14:17 07/01/14 Tue Click In -- HiJake, 08:30:32 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- Celia Fo'Realia, 08:45:39 07/01/14 Tue Click In -- MJ1978, 08:49:15 07/01/14 Tue ny selections -- gaj, 09:04:34 07/01/14 Tue CLICK IN: -- Lifelong Fan, 10:12:32 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- Kev, 10:34:55 07/01/14 Tue click in -- belgiangreg, 10:42:24 07/01/14 Tue click in (group5) -- belgiangreg, 10:45:15 07/01/14 Tue CLICK IN -- TWINX, 11:09:31 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- FUN, 11:23:29 07/01/14 Tue CLICK IN! -- Whisper, 12:16:41 07/01/14 Tue Click in... -- ahbma, 12:17:30 07/01/14 Tue Click in! -- MissUSAFan, 12:22:02 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- Groove, 12:27:07 07/01/14 Tue 1 Stace Juris 2 Brittany Oldehoff 3 Marissa Powell 4 Audra Mari 5 Tiana Greggs (NT) -- catalina, 12:37:54 07/01/14 Tue Click in! -- Athalia, 12:41:57 07/01/14 Tue CLICK IN -- MoNkayMaN, 12:55:25 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- MadeYaLook, 13:00:19 07/01/14 Tue My Votes -- see inside, 13:07:52 07/01/14 Tue CLICK IN -- ICEMAN, 14:41:37 07/01/14 Tue My selection -- MLB, 15:07:37 07/01/14 Tue Click in.... -- Freud, 15:13:48 07/01/14 Tue Click In -- Rebel79, 15:51:01 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- Duration-and-Convexity, 16:04:40 07/01/14 Tue Click In -- PF-Indy, 16:32:30 07/01/14 Tue Click In - critique on my eliminated one -- Bostonian, 16:39:20 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- NEQueen, 17:35:18 07/01/14 Tue CLICK IN, with comments. -- chexmex, 18:37:33 07/01/14 Tue Click in -- Vech, 22:20:43 07/01/14 Tue Click in... -- NayNayTN, 22:20:58 07/01/14 Tue Click in! -- MAC, 22:49:33 07/01/14 Tue Click In... -- TxPageantFan, 22:49:45 07/01/14 Tue Group 1 3. Stacie Juris, Illinois Group 2 2. Erin Brady, Connecticut Group 3: 1. Taylor Burton, Maryland Group 4 Chelsea Welch, West Virginia Group 5: 2. Cassandra Kunze, California (NT) -- paco, 00:23:59 07/02/14 Wed Click in: -- JennNYC, 01:10:01 07/02/14 Wed Click In -- Sxoxo, 01:28:51 07/02/14 Wed Click in -- djm, 02:01:57 07/02/14 Wed click in -- AnnaS, 02:17:02 07/02/14 Wed CLICK IN -- Pete of PDB, 03:29:45 07/02/14 Wed C l i c k I n -- DAIRYQUEEN, 07:28:29 07/02/14 Wed My votes ---> -- BamaMan, 07:38:05 07/02/14 Wed CLICK IN -- lexis-PA, 10:40:55 07/02/14 Wed Click In -- south star, 11:16:57 07/02/14 Wed CLICK IN: -- DeeDee, 12:06:19 07/02/14 Wed INSIDE -- HawtPlusSeksi, 13:51:23 07/02/14 Wed Click in for mine -- Doot, 14:43:39 07/02/14 Wed here's mine, click in -- ., 14:50:30 07/02/14 Wed Click in -- Bambam, 15:17:25 07/02/14 Wed CLICK IN! -- SexyDrew82 (Not signed in), 15:29:50 07/02/14 Wed G1- Booker G2-Danyal G3- Burton G4-Welch G5-Griggs (NT) -- Banalities, 18:12:59 07/02/14 Wed 1. Lauren Lundeen, 2. Brittany guidry, 3. Taylor Burton, 4. Chelsea Welch 5. Tiana Griggs (NT) -- IHP, 01:05:38 07/03/14 Thu Booooooo I can see a couple of my favourites going down the gurgler :P lol (NT) -- oz-usb, 01:25:35 07/03/14 Thu Me too hahaha. Love me some Lauren Lundeen and she's quickly going down haha (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 02:03:05 07/03/14 Thu For me it's Kristen Danyal & Chelsea Welch. i have a massive soft spot for both of them ;) and both were totally robbed by not getting past the first cut! (NT) -- oz-usb, 02:55:14 07/03/14 Thu Click in! -- Katie, 06:16:58 07/03/14 Thu CLICK IN! -- sucker4silvergowns, 14:01:10 07/03/14 Thu Click in -- Love this, 19:53:51 07/06/14 Sun My Choices -- PinkOfHearts, 21:48:30 07/06/14 Sun stacie juris-kristen danyal-hayley o'brien-jade kelsall-tiana griggs (NT) -- lipbalm, 21:51:44 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: Teens!
Author: eloise [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:18:02 07/04/14 Fri There are some really good head shots this year. Yah? I love This pic. Also really love AZ, CO, IL, MS so far, I have to go back and review the M's and the rest. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes! I love this head shot. I posted in another thread that she's channeling some Lana Del Ray in this. I'm not a huge fan of her, but her headshot is to die for. (NT) -- MissUSAFan, 10:23:57 07/04/14 Fri KY has indeed one of the best shots! Pennsylvania stands out to me, Texas and New Jersey are tall and gorgeous, 5' 11'' both. It's a shame Maryland is only 5' 4'' she has one of the best faces of this edition. Well luckily in Teen USA height is less important than in most pageants. (NT) -- gAgA, 11:21:32 07/04/14 Fri Do you think they will crown a teen who towers over Miss USA? Nia is 5'7". Those 5'11" teens have no hope. (NT) -- Jmo, 16:43:23 07/04/14 Fri I know its a long shot but I would love to see Conneticut pull off the win and have two sisters as Teen USA titleholders for the history books. (NT) -- westtnmommy, 17:04:47 07/04/14 Fri With this year's stellar roundup of solid Teen contestants, I would be disappointed if Connecticut were to win. I do not have her even in my top 20. I think there are so many girls more deserving of this title (at least competitively speaking)... And I pray the "sister card" does not get thrown in the mix. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 01:05:01 07/05/14 Sat AMEN ICEY! (NT) -- ;), 05:51:34 07/05/14 Sat One of the best teen head shots I have seen. She does look like Lana del Rey (NT) -- USAfan, 02:15:55 07/05/14 Sat I really like KY teen! Contender for Miss Photogenic! (NT) -- Athalia, 07:38:44 07/05/14 Sat I LOVE Kentucky's professional shots and although she looks different in candids, I still think she's super cute! She's a terrific model and I think would make a great Miss someday. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:34:15 07/05/14 Sat ICEMAN I agree. I just like to see history made sometimes but I am pulling for PA. She is my absolute favorite so far for the crown. (NT) -- Westtnmommy, 10:06:07 07/05/14 Sat I'm KINDA partial (as one of her judges and a new Texan) but I LOVE Kellie and really hope she does well :) (NT) -- RockyGirl, 11:05:20 07/05/14 Sat I love this photo! And what the heck? Every teen's photo is amazing! Lots of pretty girls this year! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 12:40:34 07/05/14 Sat She is a solid pick in my top 5. My top 5 are: Kentucky, California, Pennsylvania, Virginia, South Carolina (NT) -- Top 5 Picks, 16:40:10 07/06/14 Sun Go VA! (NT) -- VA all the way, 18:50:20 07/06/14 Sun I love PA and VA too (NT) -- Phyllis, 20:35:31 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: Good luck Courtney!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:35:37 07/01/14 Tue I'd like to wish Miss Georgia Teen USA 2012 Courtney Smits all the best today as she ships out for basic training! Two years ago she was heading to the Bahamas to compete at Miss Teen USA, now she's heading for the army :D Courtney graduated from high school about a month ago. She grew up in a military family, with her dad serving in Special Forces and her mom in Military Intelligence. Both are now retired but Courtney and her brother are keeping the tradition of service alive. http://www.pageantupdate.info/msisteenusa2012/delegates/georgia.htm http://www.henryherald.com/news/2014/jul/01/courtney-lynne-smits-celebrates-independence-day/ Last edited by author: Tue July 01, 2014 21:36:00 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That's awesome! Love seeing these girls serve. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 23:33:05 07/01/14 Tue I loved her back then, and I love her now... Cant wait to see her on the Miss USA stage one day! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:14:22 07/02/14 Wed I noticed on her FB that she will be back to compete in the future! Well rounded young lady and proud of her for serving our country! (NT) -- DawgNation, 15:17:07 07/02/14 Wed GREAT! Good luck - and thank you for your service, Courtney! (NT) -- OSF, 21:07:24 07/02/14 Wed Great kid with a great mom guiding her! She wore the GA Teen USA crown more proudly than anyone ever has! I didnt pick her to win that night in 2011 but she turned out to be a great Miss GA Teen USA. (NT) -- All the best to you CS, Athletic Supporter, 00:49:29 07/04/14 Fri Amazing young lady! Thank you for serving. (NT) -- TxFan, 20:09:12 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: More Crazy Gowns
Author: Cali_Dude [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:05:08 07/05/14 Sat I was just watching Youtube and found this clip of the crowning moment of Miss Venezuela 1990. Talk about crazy gowns. The craziest one is the one worn by the winner of the Miss Venezuela-International title (the one whose gown has light bulbs on her sleeves in the shape of Popeye's arms) I know there's been lots of talk about hideous gowns lately, but just thought I'd share this. Last edited by author: Sat July 05, 2014 04:46:22 Edited 4 times. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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(NT) -- Cali_Dude, 04:45:52 07/05/14 Sat Holy F BALLS!!!! The one with Popeye's Arms looks like something from Beetgeuse. Her arms look like they are morphing. Poor thing. (NT) -- chexmex, 08:10:38 07/05/14 Sat Lol exactly! And when she walks she looks like she's in pain from her arms morphing. (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 14:49:01 07/05/14 Sat I am sure all other contestants were relieved to not have been picked to wear that hideous creation. She won Miss International, Right? What a joke. (NT) -- chexmex, 15:00:51 07/05/14 Sat She won the Miss Venezuela-International title and placed in the top 15 at Miss International. lol That's probably why she looked so hesistant and embarrassed throughout the video, plus her hairdo doesn't help either. The one worn by Miss Monagas looks like she has a bunch of tarantulas crawling on her gown (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 18:33:03 07/05/14 Sat WTF! Her forearms look like a blowfish, porcupine, etc........ (NT) -- chexmex, 20:10:36 07/05/14 Sat (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 18:42:30 07/05/14 Sat I actually kinda like this look. but I think I'm okay with it, only because her face is fantastic. The dress would be more appropriate for a scary character/villain in a play or something, but a pageant not so much. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 20:26:56 07/05/14 Sat I'd totally wear it on a crowded side-walk. It's very get the hell out of my way. How did these dresses even happen? It's like a dream. (NT) -- eloise, 20:35:58 07/05/14 Sat It must be from "A Christmas Story" (NT) -- Because she can't put her arms down, 21:05:19 07/05/14 Sat It's cool...but completely disfunctional. She couldn't put her arms down the entire evening. But it's just wierd & not in a good way, i think. It's too distracting. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 02:34:04 07/06/14 Sun Holy cow at that crown! I thought crowns like that were only for toddler and drag queen pageants. Lol. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:29:36 07/05/14 Sat lol, yes those crowns look like they'd weigh a ton. But I always liked the Venezuela crowns (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 18:34:02 07/05/14 Sat THAT WAS SURREAL. on so many levels. And leave it to VZ to have a 14 minute crowning. Osmel rocks my socks. (NT) -- eloise, 20:22:14 07/05/14 Sat Also, I love how the doors slid shut so quickly on the girls who didn't make it. I laughed. "Yeah you're done. Thanks for coming out." A trap door to a bottomless pit wouldn't have been too far-fetched for this pageant dramedy. (NT) -- eloise, 20:26:44 07/05/14 Sat I haven't seen anything like this since Janie Jetson won Miss Solar System (NT) -- But she was sleeping with the judge, 21:00:27 07/05/14 Sat OMG! I loved that episode. (NT) -- Freud, 10:35:27 07/06/14 Sun My inner child LOVES those crazy Miss Venezuela gowns. It's like haute couture, a fantasy. Not really meant for the real world but make you wish it was real. It's also amazing how much they tone it down when their girls get on a bigger stage - almost like they feel that only their national pageant is the only one at that over the top gown level. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 02:40:24 07/06/14 Sun It looks like the fireflies in Barbara Palacios 1986 dress got bigger, bigger...an multiplied!!! lol... I could not recognize stunning Rebecca de Alba in that "Gaylactic" outfit... she must have gotten it from Osmel's closet... (NT) -- MiamiSpice, 08:52:46 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: What do you think of Debbie and Cindy's pageants?
Author: pM [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:14:56 07/03/14 Thu I know they took over NY last year and there were some changes. Opinions about them? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Why did they lose Illinois? (NT) -- Curious, 00:09:38 07/04/14 Fri I think they chose to give it up because they took on New York. They probably didn't want to have six states and IL was always the geographical outlier given all their other pageants are on the east coast. (NT) -- oz-usb, 00:18:57 07/04/14 Fri That makes sense. I am surprised FutureProductions didnt get it (NT) -- Curious, 00:21:31 07/04/14 Fri Thank you for this because I seriously want to know whetever tf happened to CK. She was my winner. I swear I'm never furiously rooting for any girl as hard. I feel partly responsible for jinxing Candace's chance. I didn't think I'd top my total miss with Alida D'Angona. I was so wrong. (NT) -- eloise, 00:25:33 07/04/14 Fri Both Cindy & Debbies girls! (NT) -- oz-usb, 00:30:19 07/04/14 Fri that's actually quite impressive. And lol, for a sec there I thought Nana was from CA and I was about to poke holes at giving up IL then I remembered. (NT) -- eloise, 00:37:47 07/04/14 Fri I am not really surprised at NY's exclusion this year. From being at the pageant, I wasn't overly impressed with Candace's stage presence. The pageant still has way too many girls, IMO. -- NYC_Newsie (not signed in), 00:36:10 07/04/14 Fri NY was my ♥ winner. My actual winner was either FL or NV, but I put SC on my monkayman ballot. lol I was all over the place. (NT) -- eloise, 00:56:25 07/04/14 Fri I love Candace but I didn't love all the scowling ... I actually struggled to find prelim photos to post where she was smiling. I also wasn't a massive fan of her gown... not that that means much anyway (Nia, Erin! lol) (NT) -- oz-usb, 01:15:21 07/04/14 Fri lmao, she was exotic yet ice-cold at the same time and also radiated some anger. That's tough! And that list why mom thinks she's the best was so daft lol. I was just lady you're annoying. (NT) -- eloise, 01:23:44 07/04/14 Fri I did like if she smiled more..... I guess the fierce look works more at Universe. It's a pity she missed the cut because she would've done well if she placed. (NT) -- Samuel, 12:20:27 07/04/14 Fri I think she needed a better gown and a bigger smile. Then maybe she would have placed. (NT) -- PM, 15:55:21 07/04/14 Fri Even though most of the girls at USA are models when your doing pageants have a personality and not just catwalk skills. I still believe that personality and smile goes a long way with the judges. Miss USA has gone two years back to back with less model type girls and more beauty pageant looks. Im glad. (NT) -- westtnmommy, 17:07:50 07/04/14 Fri Agreed! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 06:11:04 07/05/14 Sat Miss USA 2014 is cute and their is nothing "WOW" about her. She will only make the Top 15 at Miss Universe. (NT) -- Disagree, 09:19:32 07/06/14 Sun ONLY?? Making the top 15/16 at Miss universe is a HUGE accomplishment. Assuming she "only" does that, she should be very proud of herself. She may go further and I hope she does. Many young women would love to "ONLY" make the stage of Miss Universe let alone become a semi-finalist. (NT) -- Freud, 10:32:16 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: Miss Universe Greece 2014
Author: me3 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:04:38 07/05/14 Sat Chosen in a casting call was model Ismini Dafopoulou. Ummmm....wow. Just wow. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Remember that delegates crowned in a casting, picked without a pageant often fail at MU, there was a lot of hype about Greece 2011 and she even failed to make the first cut. Other failures include Denmark Ena Sandra who was a huge disappointment and was out of shape and last year's Germany who had a horrible styling. I think it is better to stage even a small pageant rather than pick a girl directly. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 12:59:03 07/05/14 Sat While that may be true at times, there is one MAJOR exception....Jennifer Hawkins was part of a very small casting. This woman reminds me of JH, (NT) -- me3, 14:52:32 07/05/14 Sat stunning face (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 16:16:58 07/05/14 Sat She's giving me a Julianna Margulies vibe. I dig her! (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 18:13:17 07/05/14 Sat I like her too. (NT) -- eloise, 20:41:43 07/05/14 Sat She is most definitely a stunner. But if Doukissa failed in 2007 and Ilianna failed in 2011, I really don't know what kind of creature the greeks shoud send to MU in order to place. With a Venezuela or USA or PR sash she would be a huge contender. Now, I'm not sure. (NT) -- MU fan, 08:10:22 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: Amazing behind-the-scenes video from Miss Universe 1985
Author: visitor [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:36:41 06/22/14 Sun Would somebody please post it. you won't be sorry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNt2hUf-CgQ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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For some reason, the girls look much better than they did during the final telecast. Miss Korea was really beautiful. Felt kinda sad upon seeing the late Miss Sri Lanka -- imo, 08:26:06 06/23/14 Mon imo, I totally agree, Korea is a goddess. Ireland loooked like a Miss California during the shoot, on stage she was not so soft. Spain looked the same which is not a bad thing. Debra was adorable, not surprised she won. Miss USA looked like a Miss Mexico. Over all the contestants seemed more youthful and fresh. NOW, let's talk about the elephant in the room, Miss Brazil's ASS!!!!! You could show a movie on it! (NT) -- chexmex, 11:17:49 06/23/14 Mon You picked the right words: "more youthful and fresh". (NT) -- imo, 20:32:58 06/23/14 Mon That year the crown was Spain's to lose and she did...I clearly remember her being too silly as the competition went on...Deborah Carthy Deu was boring and stiff but she maintained her poise. That won it for her in the end. Too bad...Spain was gorgeous. (NT) -- That's the way I remember that night...clearly., 00:16:02 06/24/14 Tue LOL about Miss Brazil. As Dorothy Zbornak would say "if you wanna to talk about behinds, they can show how the West was Won on yours" (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 06:25:20 06/24/14 Tue I know right. I think she made the cut that year. Can you imagine a contestant with BACK like that making the semi's in this day and age. She is attractive. (NT) -- chexmex, 08:03:46 06/24/14 Tue Yes Brazil was a beauty that year, but I never really noticed her fanny until watching this video. But then in the 80's the women in pageants had much fuller figures compared to nowadays. (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 19:05:58 06/24/14 Tue i have to disagree somewhat...yes, compared to today the girls were not as fit but I watched it that night and back then I thought her hips were huge...I don't think the decade would've made a difference. :o) (NT) -- She was just a beautiful girl with a wide behind., 01:00:02 07/02/14 Wed Really enjoyed that! I loved the geographical groupings they did..I wonder why they didn't do the swimsuit video that way that year. So LOVED seeing Guam, Tahiti, Philippines & Papua New Guinea all together...PNG was HOT actually that year. Also, I never really "got" Deborah Deu on finals night as she seemed bathed in heavy make up, but, man, she was BEAUTIFUL in these swimsuit videos! (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 23:28:35 06/23/14 Mon I too thought the same about Deborah Carthy Deu. I never really cared for her but she looked fabulous in this video. And yes Papua New Guinea was a pretty girl, and Korea was gorgeous. I always thought Philippines was pretty that year from the final telecast, but after watching this video she sorta annoyed me and came off as trying to hard to get all the attention from the other South Pacific beauties during the shoot. (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 19:10:46 06/24/14 Tue Totally agree. Carthy-Deu remains my least favorite winner (and I've been watching since the late '60s!). But in this video she looked much better than finals night. And Papua-New Guinea was very attractive, maybe before her time in pageant terms. Today she'd be compared to Lupita Nyongo. (NT) -- ..,., 10:22:18 06/26/14 Thu -- Tiki-Java, 23:30:30 06/23/14 Mon Thanks Tiki-Java. (NT) -- OP, 08:08:03 06/24/14 Tue The porno music definitely made the video :) I thought the Bahamas was a real looker in the video along with Korea. Puerto Rico was definitely the stand out in her group. (NT) -- NoPonytailsPlease, 03:52:09 06/25/14 Wed It appears that Malaysia had just received a vaccination. (NT) -- Check her right arm...., 18:07:12 07/02/14 Wed SPAIN! wow! -- MSpageantfan, 01:44:18 07/06/14 Sun

Subject: Nia's first 48 hours as Miss USA!
Author: gaj [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:08:54 06/30/14 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Oh WoW, Nia reminds me so much of Kristen Dalton! (NT) -- Just like Kristen, brown-haired Nia is also gorgeously petite with an endearing angelic aura., 02:44:32 07/01/14 Tue Agree! Did you know that Nia was one of Kristen's bridesmaids? :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 03:23:47 07/01/14 Tue Sweetie oz, please post some exclusive pics of bridesmaid Nia at Kristen's wedding!!! (NT) -- Pageant scoop, 03:54:10 07/01/14 Tue Here's a photo that was posted on Instagram :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 06:21:44 07/01/14 Tue I love that Kristen included so many of her pageant "sisters," but it makes me wonder if she had any women friends in her life besides her sisters prior to Miss USA. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 10:15:37 07/01/14 Tue Hmm, I thought for sure she'd have Carrie Prejean in her wedding. (NT) -- Groove, 12:33:44 07/01/14 Tue DID Nia meet her current beau at Kristen's wedding? (NT) -- Just curious, 18:01:29 07/01/14 Tue Is that Courtney Turner on the lower right next to Nia? Whoever it is, she looks great as does Megan Tandy. Kristen was a beautiful bride. (NT) -- delilah, 18:56:48 07/01/14 Tue No she's a friend who does compete in pageants, so yes she does have friends other than pageant sisters (NT) -- lol, 21:11:11 07/01/14 Tue does not (NT) -- lol, 21:14:17 07/01/14 Tue I dont remember the last time I've seen a bride this breathtaking.... (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:40:31 07/02/14 Wed (NT) -- HiJake, 19:17:04 07/04/14 Fri I meant I havent seen a bride this breathtaking since Liza Minelli. Thank you, HiJake, for the clarification. :) (NT) -- ICEMAN, 01:02:06 07/05/14 Sat Lol. She sure does take your breath away, doesn't she? Hahaha! ;-) (NT) -- HiJake, 08:21:41 07/05/14 Sat She seems like a genuinely sweet and humble young lady, but I just want to ram pencils in my ears whenever she opens her mouth. Love her as long as she isn't talking! (NT) -- MAC, 22:56:24 07/01/14 Tue I 100% love Nia, but I do agree that the one thing she could do to improve just a bit is work with a voice coach to find a way to speak in a slightly lower register. As far as I know, it's usually not too difficult to do that, and it would give her a sexier and more grown-up vibe. Could also help at Miss Universe. -- Doot, 14:50:30 07/02/14 Wed Yep. I fully agree. What did Meemaw used to refer to it as? Baby talk? Ugh. (NT) -- Broccoli, 10:06:07 07/03/14 Thu She has a cute, lay back personality. It's possible for her to make top 10 at Universe or even 5 if she trains hard (NT) -- Samuel, 19:51:45 07/02/14 Wed I really cannot stand Miss USAs voice. Holy moly I hope she she doesn't talk much during this reign. (NT) -- Pretty face though!, 18:15:42 07/04/14 Fri I've been watching this board from afar for several years. Just like life, it's about who you know and how you leverage the network of people you know. Alyssa and Olivia. Kristen and Nia. Um Shana. I'm not taking away from from the titleholders, but this is surely a tight knit group (Trump/Hill/whatever) that if in the club you advance. But, that's life in any industry. (NT) -- West Coast Groupie, 22:47:56 07/04/14 Fri Yep I was thinking the exact same thing. Makes me a little sad that it has to be this way. (NT) -- S, 08:48:06 07/05/14 Sat It's odd that in every photo, Nia's always in California! (NT) -- Leah Taylor, 22:47:16 07/05/14 Sat

Subject: Miss Universe 2014, your favorites up to date?
Author: HawtPlusSeksi (nsi) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:08:04 07/04/14 Fri While Miss USA was described as one of the strongest in recent years, I feel like Miss Universe does not look all that competitive at least at first sight. You can check the list of 49 delegates crowned to date on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_2014 I noticed no to little discussion about MU this year. I wonder is it due to the anti-climax of the last edition? Many fans seem to have lost hope that we will get a fair & square competition after last year's results. Having said that, I believe Venezuela is sending one of their strongest reps since at least the year 2000 and we can get a repeat of last year's results. South Africa seems to be on her way to become the main fan favorite but I would say she is more in the semi-finalist range. USA will benefit from most judges being from the US and honestly, I do not think she could miss top 10 this year. I noticed that there is not much discussion about either Puerto Rico, Mexico or Colombia. From major powerhouses only Brazil and India are left to crown their delegates. France (either winner or runner-up) are attractive but probably not in the top-tier, Ukraine is looking at another semi-final showing but I do not see the crown for her. Australia, Russia could end up as semi-finalists but they are not winner material either. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm in the minority, I know, but Venezuela this year leaves me cold. So does USA (sorry). The only one I want to win MU so far, is South Africa. (NT) -- Buster, 21:31:07 07/04/14 Fri Lots of negative comments regarding Miss USA -- that are totally ridiculous. Nia will be a very competitive contestant at MU. Also - Colombia, Mexico and PR have amazing delegates -- therefore, I believe this will be a very competitive year! (NT) -- Catherine Cates - NYC, 00:16:44 07/05/14 Sat So far I think South Africa is the clear frontrunner for Miss Universe. (NT) -- ICEMAN, 01:01:11 07/05/14 Sat For me, it's just there is so much unknown: the date, the host country/venue, half of the contestants. The close we get and the more we know, I'll get more excited. I'm really liking how the year is shaping so far, though. Some of the obvious choices are my some of my favorites: South Africa, USA, France (whether Flora or Laetizia), Venezuela (she has time to shed the weight). I'm also really loving Gabon, Israel, Turkey, Serbia, and Colombia. (NT) -- HiJake, 08:44:18 07/05/14 Sat I really like Gabon, Serbia, Greece, Israel (always a sentimental fav of mine and I've seen some beautiful Instagram photos of her) South Africa, and Austria. I have to look at the others more closely. I think this is going to be a good Miss Universe season! I hope it's going to be as stellar as Miss USA. (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 13:38:34 07/05/14 Sat Oh and I forgot to mention Curacao (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 15:31:07 07/05/14 Sat I don't see USA placing at all this year. Since watching MUO pageants in 1988, Nia is my least favorite Miss USA. If Kimberly, Shauntay, and Rima didn't make the cut Nia is definitely not going to. It is such a shame in a really competitive year at Miss USA, Nia was the one who won. (NT) -- Not a fan, 13:51:45 07/05/14 Sat The Colombian girl is to die for! I also love Migbelis, she's beautiful and has the personality. I think it will be another Latin win again this year. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 18:51:07 07/05/14 Sat I will go with the Philippines! She is the one to watch out for come Miss Universe (NT) -- --- Cerritos Boy, 19:25:23 07/05/14 Sat I haven't seen or can't recall many of the girls listed. I think Canada will make waves in interview and get in the 15/16. Philippines will win so brace yourselves. (NT) -- eloise, 20:53:45 07/05/14 Sat

Subject: Sisters!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:53:29 06/23/14 Mon Miss USA Nia Sanchez & Miss Universe Gabriela Isler attend Cirque du Soleil's ONE during their trip to Las Vegas for the Licensing Expo. Last edited by author: Mon June 23, 2014 21:54:18 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Older and younger sister. So alike! And Nia is very cute, definitely a Disney Princess (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:58:25 06/23/14 Mon Mother - Daughter night out! (NT) -- John James, 01:16:43 06/24/14 Tue Yes, it also made me think of the picture of Claudia Henkel with Miss Ukraine, I think it was 2005 or 2006. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 01:30:06 06/24/14 Tue NOT good pictures folks-not good, not good. (NT) -- DeeDee, 09:55:24 06/24/14 Tue Miss USA is cute. There is nothing "WOW" about her. (NT) -- She will not win Miss Universe 2014., 11:00:27 06/24/14 Tue Miss USA is Cute? I think you're trying to be cute with your comment! You must not be an American National. Nia is gorgeous she's very femenine and a sweet person..There's nothing WOW about her? You must not be atractive to women to think theres nothing WOW about Nia. She's clearly TOP 5 Miss Universe finalist and most likely she could win the crown. (NT) -- RECURRING FAN, 22:58:19 06/24/14 Tue Nia has such a beautiful smile with those full lips! And I want Gabriela's dress; I LOVE yellow & gray together. (NT) -- Groove, 13:15:19 06/24/14 Tue Gabriella does look old here..... Don't see Nia winning Universe, she looks like Teen USA (NT) -- World Cup fan, 13:20:43 06/24/14 Tue I'm noi trying to be mean but Gabriella have been looking old in ALL her photos. The big plastic surgery on her face that made her look old. (NT) -- 1st runner-up Spain should have won Miss Universe 2013., 14:09:38 06/24/14 Tue She's ALWAYS looked old and with a poor fashion sense. Whoever is in charge of her image should be fired! (NT) -- Philly Fan, 12:47:46 07/03/14 Thu They both look matronly! (NT) -- Yuk, 21:42:14 06/24/14 Tue curiosity what is nia's age and height. With Miss. U she looks tiny (NT) -- me, 22:33:40 06/24/14 Tue I do believe Molly is 5'10 and Nia is listed at 5'8. She's not 5'8. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 22:43:50 06/24/14 Tue as far i remembered, Nia was 5'6" when she competed in California (NT) -- calipageantfans, 14:54:06 06/25/14 Wed she's the same height as me, she's 5'8 (NT) -- Sxoxo, 17:24:22 06/25/14 Wed Hey there! I'll donate $100 to your favorite charity, IN YOUR NAME, if you post a photo of Nia flatfooted, with a measuring tape attached to show her height. I'm one of those that doesn't believe she's anywhere close to 5'8, (just like most of our recent USA winners) and I'd love to put this issue to rest! Now that I see you chiming in on this, I know you have the ability to make us naysayers shut up once and for all! (NT) -- Hooked, 19:05:54 07/01/14 Tue you know I would but she's in NY… if you MUST know we are actually 5'7 and a half…. for real. I like it because I can appear short for acting when I need to and I can put on platforms and tower… it's a good height. (NT) -- Sxoxo, 01:36:47 07/02/14 Wed It IS a perfect height!! I think you both look fabulous and really do not care how tall anyone is. I just hate the fakers and the idea that you must be over 5'6 to win. Clearly, that's not the case! Thanks for responding! (NT) -- Hooked, 22:47:20 07/02/14 Wed If she is 5'7" and a half then why lie and say 5'8"? For me you lose a lot of credibility when you come on here with a bold faced lie. Moreover, you know as well as we all do that she has never even been 5'7" on her best day. I would say 5'6" is more like it, but maybe even that's a stretch after seeing her next to Molly (who I know is not 6'). But I suppose this whole lying about height thing has been the norm for the past 15 years in pageantry. Here's a novel idea...measure them when they arrive at Miss USA and forget having them submit their own ridiculous "estimates" of their height. I've seriously heard a pageant girl tell me she was "5'8"... in heels" with a straight face. (NT) -- just be honest, 14:59:21 07/02/14 Wed It's called rounding up....relax! Now if she was 5'6 and said she was 5'8 I could understand your point, but giving yourself a half inch is totally reasonable. Most people don't fall on a whole inch when it comes to their height and when you can choose going up or going down of course a girl is going to go up. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 15:34:52 07/02/14 Wed The point is she IS barely 5'6"...if that. The pictures with Molly make it more than obvious. But whatever, same old same old. Every single year we argue over this height thing. That's why I say have them officially measures at the pageant or don't ask their height at all. Almost all seem to "embellish." (NT) -- Tired of the lies, 17:23:12 07/03/14 Thu dude! she was my titleholder, she stands the SAME height as me! stop telling me how tall she is off of pictures! for the love of god! You all fight over height and it makes NO difference in this pageant anyway! omg move on! (NT) -- S.xoxo, 21:32:16 07/04/14 Fri omg.. now I'm laughing at you….are you kidding? please tell me your kidding… (NT) -- S.xoxo, 19:41:30 07/02/14 Wed Nia reminds me of Arielle while Molly reminds me of Ursula...LOL (NT) -- Philly Fan, 10:41:21 06/26/14 Thu Nia Sanchez, Miss USA 2014, is the Latina Kristen Dalton, Miss USA 2009. (NT) -- Disney Princess, 02:35:36 07/01/14 Tue I think Nia is adorable, but I'd like to see a few highlights in her hair. When she first came on the scene in CA, her hair had blonde highlights and I thought it looked very striking on her. (NT) -- delilah, 21:09:58 07/01/14 Tue Oh my gosh...who the fck cares about how tall they are. So irking. (NT) -- HiJake, 16:59:44 07/02/14 Wed* IKR? My goodness, I have a lot of stuff on my mind (bills, cleaning my house, doing laundry, making dinner, sex). I ain't got tam fo dat. (NT) -- Groove, 18:14:01 07/02/14 Wed Lmao!!! Making dinner, sex.....I love it! (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:31:10 07/03/14 Thu Hellz yeah, Groove! PREACH, sistah! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 17:11:42 07/03/14 Thu Well I am a HI Jake fan so I will just root for him!!!! Honey I know a lot irks me on here too babe and I am really busy!! (NT) -- Bostonian, 18:26:06 07/03/14 Thu \m/ (NT) -- HiJake, 08:45:33 07/05/14 Sat Height doesnt matter so who cares how tall Nia is!!! I cant wait for a 5'3 girl to win USA and Universe...oh wait, thats already happened! Thank you Olivia Culpo! (NT) -- Shut up about height!, 00:29:36 07/04/14 Fri I think it's nice that Joan Crawford is still taking her daughter Christina out for dinner. (NT) -- DeeDee (bring me the ax!!), 13:01:23 07/05/14 Sat OK, that was just funny! Christina Darling!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- Rare Steak, 14:53:58 07/05/14 Sat Everyone said I was crazy when I said that Nia looked like Miss U. Next! (NT) -- Cici, 20:52:14 07/05/14 Sat

Subject: New Crowns for our Queens? Diamonds International Corporation
Author: HiJake [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:38:27 07/04/14 Fri On yesterday's Throwback Thursday thread, Cammie mentioned something about a new company designing new crowns for our MUO trio. I was intrigued, so I did a little research and found that she was right!!! Diamonds International Press Release On the same day our new Miss USA was crowned, it was made public that Czech based Diamonds International Corp., has inked a 10 year deal with MUO to design new crowns for our titleholders. The company designed the 2009 Miss Universe Slovak Republic tiara. President of DIC (immature giggling from me, hehe), Lubos Riha with Gabriela Isler and Trump at Miss USA 2014 Thoughts?!? Last edited by author: Fri July 04, 2014 18:45:49 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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PS - Shoutout to Cammie for the info!!! Thanks!!! I'm also surprised it hasn't come up yet! (NT) -- HiJake, 18:39:33 07/04/14 Fri Oh my gosh! I'm soooo excited for new crowns!! I just hope that they are beautiful and timeless. The only thing that annoys me is that they feel the need to change the crowns every couple of years, Miss World have had that crown forever and it's still beautiful and recognizable. (NT) -- PinkOfHearts, 18:49:51 07/04/14 Fri I saw Cammie mention that and was hoping she was right. I am looking forward to seeing new crowns. (NT) -- jmo, 19:41:23 07/04/14 Fri Just who is Cammie, guys?!!? (NT) -- WILL this year's Miss TEEN USA be crowned with the new crown?, 20:19:36 07/04/14 Fri Hey guys you are very welcome. I was not here right after Miss USA final due to my school exams and I was surprised that nobody knew because in Czech press it was posted on June 11 or somethink like that. For the queastion I´m just pageant fan from Czech Republic :D -- Cammie, 03:49:43 07/05/14 Sat Methinks there could be a win coming up for the Czech Republic if this new company becomes a longtime sponsor and then they bail the year after just like Mikimoto did after Japan won in 2007. (NT) -- Clowja, 04:52:56 07/05/14 Sat I just hope it´s not this year. I really don´t like our girl. -- Cammie, 05:36:52 07/05/14 Sat This is interesting! I hope they don't look cheap though. (NT) -- Athalia, 05:08:55 07/05/14 Sat I absolutely hate the DN crowns! I hope these mew ones will be more wearable and less gaudy! (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 06:15:22 07/05/14 Sat The mikimotos were my favorites. I always thought a diamond gem version would be beautiful. I don't like the crown in the above photo so I really hope the new crowns don't look like that otherwise they should just stick with DN and I have a like/hate feeling with them lol (NT) -- South star, 09:17:07 07/05/14 Sat They can't just "stick" with Diamond Nexus. DN is no longer a sponsor of the pageant. They parted ways earlier this year. (NT) -- ITK, 11:48:37 07/05/14 Sat Would y'all prefer a crown/tiara with only white diamonds, with some color, some pearls, maybe a gold setting? I wonder if we get to help pick one like DNL did with the Universe crown a few years back. (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 12:22:26 07/05/14 Sat I liked the crowns in the 1970s to 2001 the best. The Mikimotos were too small, the current crowns are too gaudy. I would like to see an improved version of the older crowns. (NT) -- Dayla, 12:33:02 07/05/14 Sat Now that looks cheap. Don't mind the fangs at the bottom digging right in your scalp. Incidentally, I just noticed recently that the Nexus Uni crown was modified. I checked their website and they did in fact take quite a bit of the design elements off. Apparently, it was way too heavy. (NT) -- eloise, 20:46:29 07/05/14 Sat

Subject: Happy 4th of July ot all my US friends!
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:18:28 07/05/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Cute post (NT) -- Thanks oz, 18:31:05 07/05/14 Sat

Subject: #Throwback to 2004
Author: oz-usb [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:03:01 07/04/14 Fri Ten years ago (give or take a few months)! Have posted this on my facebook & instagram, everyone is more or less in agreement that (a) this is one of the best trios of all time and (b) we miss those crowns! Agree? Disagree? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I've gotten used to the Nexus crowns. I suddenly find the mikimotos really chunky and too pearl. (NT) -- eloise, 01:08:00 07/04/14 Fri Great trio. Don't really miss those crowns though. My favorites were the crowns that MUO used for a long time before the mikimoto ones. (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 01:09:18 07/04/14 Fri I don't think ANYONE would be complaining if they went back to those. I wish :( (NT) -- oz-usb, 01:12:25 07/04/14 Fri Exactly. But I do appreciate the Mikimoto ones and would take them back in a heartbeat over the ones they use nowadays (NT) -- Cali_Dude, 14:22:48 07/04/14 Fri Please bring back those Mikimoto crowns (modern, simple, ELEGANT) and Scott Grossman. -- Current crowns are too blah and the choreographer is HORRIBLE!, 03:25:33 07/04/14 Fri The TEEN Mikimoto was the best. That should have been the Miss Universe crown. I wouldnt be surprised if DNL's sponsorship ebds soon and we'll see another redesign. I only like the Universe DNL crown...but its not the one I voted for. hehe. (NT) -- HiJake, 07:34:09 07/04/14 Fri 100% agree. The Mikimoto crowns symbolised style and glamour. Someone once told me that when they saw Leila in person wearing the Diamond Nexus, that is looked rather cheap in person. Also when I am watching MU, 1999, 2000 , 2004 and 2005, I am in awe of the choreography of the opening numbers - something that is now lacking with the new choreographer. Although Miss USA 2014 was definitely an improvement in this regard. (NT) -- Sifiso, 08:05:43 07/04/14 Fri I'm not surprised it looked cheap. DN makes crap jewelry and has some shady business practices trying to misrepresent their product as something better than it is. (NT) -- UC, 08:35:55 07/04/14 Fri Best Trio and by far my favorite crowns. (NT) -- jmo, 11:27:49 07/04/14 Fri Mikimoto were by far the best crowns in MU's history. Great trio too. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 11:47:39 07/04/14 Fri Czech based company Diamonds International Corporation has a 10 year deal for making crowns for all three title holders. This news has been posted in czech medias right after Miss USa crowning and later on confirmed on companys FB page so I´m surprised nobody nows it here. -- Cammie, 13:47:37 07/04/14 Fri LOVE the trio, HATE the crowns. My problem with the Mikimoto crowns is that they never seemed to sit gracefully on the head. They always looked like they were just photoshopped on. Plus, the MU crown always reminded me of the NBC peacock (which, come to think of it, may not have been accidental, LOL). -- Doot, 13:49:50 07/04/14 Fri it wasn't doot. i like these 3. the crowns not so much. Going back i loved Michelle, Shannon and Jamie (NT) -- catalina, 22:48:54 07/04/14 Fri I never liked Shelly Henning and found her personality to be fake and just acting like how a teen would talk. I did, however, love Jennifer and she was gorgeous. (NT) -- Lorraine Siu, 23:45:02 07/04/14 Fri The TEEN Mikimoto is nice but I don't miss the Universe Mikimoto at all. (NT) -- Serena van der Woodsen, 13:29:22 07/05/14 Sat I always loved this tiaras! the Miss tiara looked great straight on, but to me looked broken from any other angle (like this one). definitely done on purpose, but looked weird to me (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 13:38:50 07/05/14 Sat these! (NT) -- Celia Fo'Realia, 13:42:43 07/05/14 Sat*

Subject: Miss United States pageant is this weekend and I have a friend who is competing in it. I have researched it but cannot find much about it but from what she tells me it is all about the money. The girls pay for EVERYTHING except the entry fee. What do you guys know about this pageant.
Author: desperately seeking info. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:14:21 07/02/14 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Some USA gurls competed there either prior or after their USA appearance, as exemple Ciera Butts and Desiree Perez competed there one year ago. I personally would do MAO, Miss US International or Miss Earth USA before doing Miss United States. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 15:12:43 07/04/14 Fri I'm not a big fan of pageants that cram several age groups into one event; I can understand Teen, but Miss United States has Ms, Jr. Miss, etc...too much in my opinion. (NT) -- T, 15:44:45 07/04/14 Fri For the money I would go with one of the ones sugggested above. This pageant has such a shady history and the massive age divsions always in my opinion cheapen a pageant. (NT) -- jmo, 16:46:37 07/04/14 Fri I thought it was a little shady too by what she tells me. It's mostly about how much money the girls can raise. But yet, Vanbros are directors of 3 MS United States. (NT) -- seeking info, 18:02:13 07/04/14 Fri See I thought it was just Mrs United States. And then they must of gotten ahold of the other titles becuase there have been a few different miss united states pageants. Many MUO state pageants have the Mrs pageants for Mrs United States. WA use to have this, I think it only lasted a year and was an at large title. (NT) -- jmo, 19:44:05 07/04/14 Fri If you complete and win a state title can you complete in another system such as Miss Americal (NT) -- curious, 19:39:20 07/04/14 Fri

Subject: Do girls still wear one-piece swimsuits in pageants?
Author: Lola [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:15:55 07/03/14 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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some of the state pageants require the teens to wear a one piece (NT) -- PM, 00:35:16 07/03/14 Thu What about Miss? (NT) -- Lola, 01:04:41 07/03/14 Thu No states require it and very few Miss contestants wear a one piece. The last winner I can recall winning wearing a one piece was actually Jamie Crandall in 2011. (NT) -- oz-usb, 02:57:06 07/03/14 Thu Some of the semi-finalists at Miss Universe this year wore one-piece suits...although, they were barely one piece. The answer is YES, but it is not common. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 05:17:40 07/03/14 Thu Venezuela has for the past couple of years used one-piece suits - I actually find them sexier than 2-pieces. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 12:28:30 07/03/14 Thu no state requires MISS to wear them but there are a few that do require the teens to wear them(NY is one of them) (NT) -- mm, 18:34:52 07/03/14 Thu sometimes bigger girls compete in MISS and wear them(I remember there were some in Texas state). No winners though (NT) -- PM, 18:38:43 07/03/14 Thu I like this one. And 100% love Valentina btw. love her so much. (NT) -- eloise, 00:52:33 07/04/14 Fri who. is. this? <3 (NT) -- dink, 02:21:50 07/04/14 Fri NJ Teen 2014 (NT) -- Athalia, 06:40:36 07/04/14 Fri DANG that one-piece looks smashing on her. Or she looks fantastic in that one-piece. (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 17:26:51 07/04/14 Fri Teen states that require them: AR, KS, NE, OK, MO, IL, NY, DE, MD, RI, NJ, CO, WY, SD, ND, IA, WI, MN ... basically Vanbros, D&D, Future Productions. Don't think I'm missing any one :) (NT) -- oz-usb, 01:04:26 07/04/14 Fri I dont understand the purpose of a one piece when the girls wear two piece at Teen USA. Shouldnt the national pageant set the standard? (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 01:20:43 07/04/14 Fri I am not a fan of teens in bikinis/ heels on stage. . I like the one piece (NT) -- PM, 01:37:13 07/04/14 Fri One piece looks matronly. These girls look relevant and current in a two piece. They wouldnt wear a one piece to the beach or pool, so why should they wear one in a pageant? (NT) -- Athletic Supporter, 02:24:45 07/04/14 Fri AGREE! (NT) -- ICEMAN, 10:05:22 07/04/14 Fri

Subject: Here is a pageant related Buzzfeed.com quiz
Author: MadeYaLook [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:48:16 07/01/14 Tue What Would Your Pageant Title Actually Be? http://www.buzzfeed.com/bravo/what-would-your-pageant-title-actually-be?bffb=quiz (BTW I got Miss Congeniality....) Last edited by author: Tue July 01, 2014 16:50:18 Edited 1 time. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I got Most Talented! (NT) -- NEQueen, 17:26:53 07/01/14 Tue So did I!!! (NT) -- MLB, 20:25:33 07/01/14 Tue I got Best In Show (NT) -- PF-Indy, 20:50:38 07/01/14 Tue Rather than a pageant title, I'd rather do the site inspections and work behind the scenes as an event planner for MUO and MUSA. In my former life, I was a Corporate Meeting & Event Planner. (NT) -- delilah, 21:03:34 07/01/14 Tue You know that everything is a competition, and you have the cool, calculating air to always come out on top. Some may accuse you of being cutthroat, but you know that’s just jealousy talking. The losers will always want to take the winners down; it’s nothing you haven’t handled before. Get your pageant title courtesy of Bravo’s Game of Crowns. (NT) -- I got MISS BUSINESS, 22:20:03 07/01/14 Tue Woohoo, in good company with RockyGirl, Punky & MadeYaLook... I'm Miss Congeniality! (NT) -- oz-usb, 22:50:30 07/01/14 Tue * like (I wish voy had a "like" button or something similar) (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 23:18:29 07/01/14 Tue I got Miss Congeniality! (NT) -- RockyGirl, 11:19:49 07/02/14 Wed Of course you did! (NT) -- oz-usb, 12:26:20 07/02/14 Wed I got Most Talented. I think I've been competing in the wrong system. (NT) -- Tiki-Java, 22:52:22 07/01/14 Tue Most Underestimated. (NT) -- MAC, 23:02:41 07/01/14 Tue I'm most Underestimated (NT) -- Yep, 23:54:05 07/01/14 Tue I'm "Best In Show" whatever that means. (NT) -- chexmex, 06:10:48 07/02/14 Wed MISS BUSINESS BABI! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 11:31:03 07/02/14 Wed I got Miss Sass (NT) -- , 12:57:35 07/02/14 Wed* I got "Best in Show" too. Where is my kibble and new bone. LOLOL (NT) -- pageantrella, 14:13:38 07/02/14 Wed LMAO!!! I felt like a running on all fours, RUFF!!!!! (NT) -- chexmex, 15:36:24 07/02/14 Wed LMAO!!! (NT) -- pageantrella, 13:29:34 07/03/14 Thu Oh great, I'm the guy who mops the stage after Miss Nicaragua slips down the stairs :-( -- Doot, 17:49:02 07/02/14 Wed Well, the job has to get done...;) (NT) -- MadeYaLook, 18:21:08 07/02/14 Wed Yay, I got Most Talented! This is so funny because I was voted Most Talented my senior year in high school! LOL! (NT) -- Groove, 18:07:17 07/02/14 Wed I got Miss Business. (NT) -- Alex, 18:28:06 07/02/14 Wed MISS BUSINESS OVA HERE! Which is funny because sometimes I really have no business. lol (NT) -- JayBay, 19:37:40 07/02/14 Wed What's a business ova? Is that, like, the product of an egg donor?? ;) (NT) -- RockyGirl, 10:20:03 07/03/14 Thu Ova= over. (NT) -- MadeYaLook (nsi), 21:49:13 07/03/14 Thu Best in Show. (NT) -- Aida, 21:04:18 07/02/14 Wed I got Most Talented. How does liking a Blue Hawaiian and eating breakfast make me talented? (NT) -- sucker4silvergowns, 14:23:22 07/03/14 Thu The fact you have could have a Blue Hawaiian at breakfast is talent enough. (NT) -- chexmex, 14:56:48 07/03/14 Thu Scratch the 1st have. My Blue Hawaiian is kickin in:) (NT) -- chexmex, 15:06:37 07/03/14 Thu Best in Show (NT) -- Good, because I don't remember my answers, 21:55:43 07/03/14 Thu I got Miss Business too which I am so not. (NT) -- eloise, 01:34:44 07/04/14 Fri

Subject: Question for those who know. Helping a "new" contestant who has not competed in USA prelims, local or state previously but instead has competed in MAO prelims and Cinderella and NAM local and state prelims and has done exceptionally well but feels her time is done and it is time to move on. She has been contacted directly and asked to compete and is considering competing. My question as someone who helps her with obtaining sponsors for wardrobe, fundraising, and that sort of thing, is this typical raise your numbers recruiting behavior? Should she go at large? Attend this year's state pageant and watch and compete in prelims? Go at large if necessary? She will need to sell some of the more conservative wardrobe that she has. Thank you in advance. I think she could do really well crossing over. And she did really well in the MAO state prelim she just was what they call "too USA" for their conservative state.
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I doubt anyone on here can provide you with the answer you are probably looking for (a definitive yes or no that she will do well). My thoughts would be if she is excited about competing and really wants to do so - go for it. But, just like anything else, this pageant will take time and money and if she doesn't have her whole heart involved, the outcome won't be what she is looking for. (NT) -- MJ1978, 08:58:24 07/03/14 Thu This is hard to answer not knowing the girl or the state, but I agree with what MJ1978 said. If she wants to do it, she should go for it. Win or lose, it is a fun experience (at least where I've competed). If she wants to feel more prepared going into her state pageant, then competing in a prelim wouldn't hurt her and can get her more comfortable with how USA pageants work, but I don't think it's necessary. (NT) -- FutureMiss, 09:21:03 07/03/14 Thu I think watching the state prelim would benefit her greatly and competing in a prelim, win or lose would as well. It's quite different from the other systems mentioned as you get feedback from judges if you request it and can purchase your score sheet if the director allows that option which allows for growth. Not familiar with National American Miss or Cinderella but I am with America. Wish they would provide the score sheets to the contestants post competition to see what areas need working on. There is no harm there, black out the judges names. Got off track. Wardrobe will be slightly different and need adjusting but not a complete overhaul most likely. And your girl will probably dare better than you or she expects. I don't know how competitive your state is. I know my state is fairly competitive from say 10 on up but the 10 varies year to year. Regulars chime in? (NT) -- Flipper, 09:36:43 07/03/14 Thu Please tell us the state, state directors and teams at USA have different expectations, so it would help if you shared the state. As far as competing, she can go AT LARGE at her first try and then come back next year with a strong local sash. I presume your girl would have 2 to 3 years left since you mentioned she aged out of MAO, that is why I would certainly recommend going at large this year, so she is aware of everything for next year (if she does not win). Being a MAO girl in USA pageants is not seen as negatively as the contrary, so I'd encourage her to go for it, (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi, 12:17:35 07/03/14 Thu Different poster, similar situation. Young lady in MA but we can't find any information about the directors except their names (NT) -- crossing over, 21:11:52 07/03/14 Thu Mass. Laurie Clemente is often described as SWEET AS APPLE PIE. Her personality seems to be a major asset when it comes to this system and last year they also took over Maine and NH for a total of 3 states. Having said that, there were controversies over the years. Many girls complained they were not adequately prepared. Others complained about favoritism. Indeed, A LOT of Teens seem to win it...higher than a national average. Some other people complained that the pageant is not dynamic enough and is somewhat old school. Our handled poster BOSTONIAN has had nothing but praises for Laurie though and that over the years. People noticed this year's Maine delegate did not have a defined physique, so either Laurie was too polite to advise her of that or did not notice that (she should have, imo). But many of her girls are in top shape as well! All in all, I would say go for it! (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:45:30 07/03/14 Thu Sorry it too so long to return. I worn 12 hour shifts as a Physicians Assistant and I am on call this weekend. It is SC NC Alabama Louisiana territory so RPM is the directors. I told the young lady my personal advice is to go watch this year and compete in some prelims and see if she enjoys the difference in systems and adjust to competiton. If she needs to go at large the next year then so be it. But she will have gotten her feet wet in prelims. I appreciate the advice. (NT) -- Joesph, 21:19:58 07/03/14 Thu RPM, the director Paula Miles is generally well liked. This is also an organization that does not receive a lot of criticism. Having said that, they tend to favor contestants that come back, out of last year's four winners, all came back even Christina Zapolski did not win on her first try. A few years ago there was some criticism that there was pressure on some contestants to work with pageant coaches close to RPM, ie: Chelsea Cooley among others. That issue was discussed on here and people were on both sides of the spectrum, otherwise no major controversies in recent years. Paula always prepares their girls, they go for a few days retreat EVERY YEAR (all 8 Misses and Teens). Yes, RPM states have preliminaries but I am not sure if it is too late to compete in them this year, advise your friend to go at-large and if a preliminary is close, she can go there but I would advise against competing. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:36:33 07/03/14 Thu RPM is more conservative than most directors, therefore going from MAO to USA will be much easier. Also, Paula does not seem to discriminate against MAO girls (unlike what seems to be the case in some states). As exemple, Ericka Powell won SC. Another thing I noticed, gown selection is less of a factor at RPM than in most states. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:39:44 07/03/14 Thu Compete right away! Paula runs a great organization and is a very ethical in my opinion unlike other southern state directors! You will have a great experience and will be on equal footing as everyone else. Go ahead and compete! There is no reason to wait! Do a prelim or go at-large (NT) -- My opinion, 00:19:21 07/04/14 Fri

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