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Subject: Heterosexuality


Author:
BamaMan
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Date Posted: 14:55:27 11/21/09 Sat

What do you think about heterosexuality? Is it natural, or is it a sin? Do you hate Carrie Prejean because of her heterosexual videos and photos?

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Subject: A question for the all our Clutch friends.


Author:
Bella
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Date Posted: 13:21:37 11/21/09 Sat

Since there seems to be so much discussion over what is appropriate and what isn't when it comes to gays, I recently heard of a controversy and I want to know how both straight and gays think and believe.

Recently Adam Lambert did a cover and photo layout for the magazine Details. In this magazine he posed with a beautiful women in some compromising positions. Some showed him almost kissing her breast.

He was then asked to do a cover for the magazine Out. He only agreed to do it with a group not a solo cover. The editor of the magazine wrote a nasty editorial about how Adam was not being true to being gay. He totally blasted Adam and said he was not showing people the right image, that he was doing what "his people" wanted him to do to sell records (by doing the photo shoot with a women).

So my friends and I (including my lesbian friend) are having quite the discussion. She totally understands why the editor is so mad and says Adam is not portraying himself correctly to the public. My other friend says that he is just being himself and there is nothing wrong with him saying a women is "pretty".

How do you feel as a gay or straight person? Is this something that we could have trouble understanding the other's point of view?

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Subject: tiresome and weary


Author:
M Back
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Date Posted: 14:09:39 11/21/09 Sat

I first came to this board because the topics were interesting
and non-pageant related and you could voice your opinions
without being completely obliterated (USB) for those opinions.

But I am growing very tired of seeing every other subject
addressing homosexuality.

GET THE FUCK OVER IT ALREADY PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously. No one talks about the sexual proclivities of
heterosexuals, so people should just shut up about
homosexuals as well. What's the curiosity? I realize
many of these threads began post-Carrie but I for one
am getting really sick of the same shit day in and day
out.

Live and let live and.....
shut the fuck up already.

Speaking as a gay man I am so incredibly tired of having
the heterosexual agenda shoved down my throat. Believe
me, that would be the last thing I would want....in my
throat.

ENOUGH!

Find an original thought and post about it already,
before this board becomes nothing more than a
catechism class!

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Subject: I'm headed to Australia but...


Author:
Kris
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Date Posted: 19:16:35 11/21/09 Sat

I am going to Sydney, Australia for the first time in January. Is there anything I need to be aware of? I have heard there is a poisonous funnel web spider in Sydney, is it common to see one? I want to have fun, but I want do plan on coming back to the US alive.

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Subject: Lincoln, Nebraska


Author:
M Back
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Date Posted: 10:48:13 11/21/09 Sat

My niece called me this morning and informed me that she
and her newly married, sweetheart of a spouse will be
relocating to Lincoln, Nebraska.

I know nothing about Nebraska, so I was wondering if any
of you that either live there or are familiar with Lincoln
could give me some insight to pass along to them?

My nephew-in-law only had a single job interview there,
before being offered his new job so neither of them
really knows much about the area.

Neighborhoods/real estate, things to do, places of interest,
places to eat, etc, are all things I'd love to be able to
pass along to them.

They are both very excited for the move and have said what
they DID see of the area they were very impressed with.
They don't have kids yet (or plans to start a family for
a while,) so school districts are not something that would
be of interest currently.

Thanks clutchers!

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Subject: Attention Pageant Fans


Author:
IHP
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Date Posted: 16:33:22 11/19/09 Thu

With a heavy heart I have decided to sell off some of my pageant books and magazines. I will list the available books. I am not sure how much to charge. So let me know a fair price you would be willing to pay. I have excellent feed back on ebay. over 160 transactions with a 100 percent positive feedback since 2000. I am listed under pageant lover. I am offering these books and magazines here first. I have decided to try different hobbies, and explore different avenues. I want to bless fellow pageant fans with these items. Here is a list of what I have available. email me at queenmissmo@hughes.net and let me know what you are interested in.

Hype and Glory by William Goldman which is a true account by the only person to have been a judge at both the cannes film festival and the Miss America Pageant in the same year and lived to tell about it. This is the famous book where Mr. Goldman describes the eventual winner as Gretchen Carlson as Miss Piggy.

Beauty Queens A Playful History by Candace Savage. A wonderful coffee table book of the history beauty queens. Unfortunately I don't own a coffee table.

A Really Cute Corpse A Claire Mallory Mystery by Joan Hess.
As the reluctant director of Farberville's own Miss Thurberfest Beauty Pageant, Claire Malloy has more than enough problems with baton twirlers, monotonal vocalists, dog tricks, and general mischief among the eighteen girls vying for the coveted crown. Last year's reigning queen seems to be a sweet, vivacious young thing, and Claire is bewildered as it becomes increasingly clear that someone is stalking the girl and devising some ugly practical jokes. When a shot is fired at her car during the parade, the young State Senator there as one of the judges is convinced he's the target of professional hoodlums, but the now hysterical Miss Thurberfest locks herself in her dressing room and won't come out. Is she hiding from a malicious prankster, an old flame, her over-zealous promoter, or a murderer? While Lieutenant Peter Rosen does his best to keep his favorite amateur sleuth from meddling in the investigation, Claire searches for the answer to a most puzzling question: "Why would anyone want to murder Miss Thurberfest?"

click in for more selections

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Subject: Facebook Photos Lead to Underage Drinking Fines


Author:
Rawr <img src="http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/34/thkittyrawr.gif">
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Date Posted: 21:42:46 11/20/09 Fri

I came across this article, and it got me really thinking. I figured it was a good "first post" to make to introduce myself to the board. Just call me Rawr!

Basically, the article states that police at a University have been friending underage kids on Facebook and giving them fines for drinking. My question is: do you agree with what they're doing? Why or why not? Also, do you think that with past Miss Teen USA titleholders being in similar situations there should have been harsher punishment for those girls? Please no bashing of the girls.

I'll refrain from giving my own personal opinion until I hear from you all.



Facebook Photos Lead to Underage Drinking Fines

by Terrence O'Brien — Nov 21st 2009 at 5:00PM
We've seen wives pose as teens to bust cheating husbands and collections agencies impersonate cute girls to catch debt dodgers, but this is the first time we've ever heard of police using their precious time to send teens friend requests on Facebook just to troll their photos for evidence of underage drinking.

Students at the University of Wisconsin - La Crosse have found themselves on the wrong end of a seemingly major sting operation. According to the La Crosse Tribune, at least four students from the school have been invited to court and fined for underage drinking over the past few weeks. The pieces of evidence presented in all the cases have been photos taken from the students' Facebook pages. One of those in trouble, Adam Bauer, told the Tribune that he believes the photos were obtained by police who posed as a "good-looking" 19-year-old girl and sent him a friend request about a month ago. Shortly thereafter Bauer was asked to come into the local police precinct.

Bauer wasn't shy about sharing his feelings about the methods, either, making allusions to '1984' and saying, "They are always watching." Another student busted on Facebook, sophomore Tyrell Luebker, called the practice "shady" and "a waste of taxpayer money," when interviewed by the Tribune. Luebker and Bauer aren't in the minority, either. Fellow sophomore Brianna Niesen worried that the practice would discourage students from calling police to report serious crimes for fear of being nabbed for underage drinking.

We certainly don't condone drunken youngsters here at Switched, but we do find ourselves agreeing with the students on this one. Police have better things to do than troll Facebook and MySpace, hunting for photos of college kids holding 40s. [From: La Crosse Tribune]

http://www.switched.com/2009/11/21/facebook-photos-lead-to-underage-drinking-fines

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Subject: Dolly Parton speaks out on gay marriage


Author:
M Back
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Date Posted: 00:28:05 11/18/09 Wed

Since this has become such a hot button topic on here....

I came across this article on aol tonight:


The always candid Dolly Parton has revealed that she's in favor of granting gays and lesbians the rights to marry.

"Sure, why can't they get married? They should suffer like the rest of us do," the outspoken superstar told CNN show host Joy Behar. When Behar suggested Dolly's Southern roots might not mesh with the idea of marriage equality, the singer agreed, "I know that's true."

Dolly's not alone. This year, Reba McEntire surprised some of her conservative fans when she spoke in support of her gay fans and "many gay friends." "Don't judge me and I won't judge you," she said. "Keep an open mind."

Sugarland's Jennifer Nettles, too, recently celebrated her gay fans. "I've always had a large gay following," the singer, who has performed at Gay Pride in Atlanta three times, said. "Particularly in the lesbian community. I am grateful for that ... It also means that I'm a cute girl singing a rock song in an alto voice!"

As for Dolly, the flamboyant entertainer admits she feels a certain kinship with her many gay and lesbian fans."I think it's because they know I'm different too, and it took me a long time to be accepted," she reasons.

"Plus, a lot of my gay guy friends love to dress up," she adds. "I think they just appreciate the fact that I love everybody for who they are."

Dolly did have some strong words, however, for Houston megachurch pastor Joel Osteen, who earlier this month stated that "homosexuality is not God's best work." "I don't want to talk about him," she said with a laugh. "I think God made us who we are and how we are, and I don't think if [Osteen] was a religious person, he would be judging people."

Dolly herself has weathered gay rumors. She and assistant Judy Ogle are constantly spotted together, and their close friendship (they've also been best friends since the third grade) eventually fueled speculation about whether the two were romantically connected, as well.

"We're totally honest, open, and comfortable with each other," Dolly told AARP magazine of her friendship with Judy. "We've been accused of being lovers. We do love each other, but we've never been like that."

Dolly shrugs off the rumors and insists that the "I dos" she said 43 years ago with husband Carl Dean were meant for life.

"I know we'll never divorce," she says. "He always knows I'm coming home."

making a joke and it wasn't at the expense of anyone,
especially not gay folk but as usual, the press has
to stir up extra shit.>

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Subject: declawing banned in Los angeles


Author:
catalina
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Date Posted: 16:37:25 11/21/09 Sat

a declawing bill passed this week in los Angeles ca, a simular one passed in santa MOnica...more to come

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Subject: The pros and cons of aging


Author:
M Back
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Date Posted: 16:45:13 11/18/09 Wed

Name three pros and three cons regarding aging?

MINE:

Pro

#1 I am less likely than ever to put up with any bullshit
in the beginning stages of a relationship or decid whether
to enter INTO a relationship, simply because I find the
person hot or that I think I can "fix" them.

#2 My life experiences have made me a little wiser
and I am less likely to do stupid things (more than
once, anyway).

#3 Younger people ALWAYS guess my age to be at least a
decade younger than what I am. (Always an ego boost,
and the main reason I love having younger people around.

Con

#1 More hair on my ears than on the top of my head,
mixed with just the right requisite number of liver
spots and gravity.

#2 Waking up every day with some new ache, pain,
ailment, brittle bone or flat out disease!!!

#3 Seeing your peers and parents die.
(A buzzkill if ever there was one.)

Clearly the con list could've gone on MUCH longer,
but this post wasn't intended to be about me.
I am much more interested in hearing how descriptive
you clever bunch can be. (Plus, misery loves company.)

Your turn.

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Subject: Favorite HEALTHY foods


Author:
M Back
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Date Posted: 16:45:59 11/17/09 Tue

Seems we're all so food obsessed on this board.
It's a wonder any of us ever squeezed into our
evening gowns/formal wear.

We're always talking about favorite comfort foods,
junk foods and the like. So, for a change of pace
let's go healthy today.

What are some of your yummiest healthy food choices?

(I'm fixing one of mine for dinner right now.
The inspiration for this inane post.)

Morningstar brand Buffalo Wings.
The package describes them as "Veggie Buffalo Wings
with a crispy, golden breading - hot and spicy."
(They have them at Trader Joe's.)

If you love wings or wing pieces, etc,
you'll go stark raving mad for these mouth watering,
succulent morsels. The breading is delicious. You
will swear you are eating chicken. In fact, dare I
say that they taste BETTER than chicken!

I have them with a heaping side of mini organic
carrots and celery sticks.

(My one concession being that the dipping sauces
I line up are blue cheese, honey mustard, barbecue
and chipotle ranch.) And I have enough dressing to
make up for any attempt at a healthy meal.

Your turn.

Any savory healthy foods you love?

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Subject: For those who believe that Homosexuality is a "behavior".


Author:
almostheaven
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Date Posted: 20:32:44 11/20/09 Fri

Being gay is NOT a behavior. It is a state of mind.

You can renounce your homosexuality as much and as often as you want..
You can screw 1000 women..
You can marry a woman and NEVER partake in ANY type of same sex relations...
You can be completey abstinent...

BUT...

You are STILL GAY! And if you so believe that it's a MAJOR sin, then...
You are still going to HELL!

You're not straight simply because you deny yourself gay sex...of because you CALL yourself straight. You're a gay LIAR!

Having gay sex doesn't make person gay....being ATTRACTED to the same sex is what makes you gay.

I didn't have gay sex until I was an adult...but I can assure you I WAS STILL GAY for my entire life.

So,....why not BE HAPPY!...??? And accept who you are?
Why marry a woman when you know DAMNED well, that you can not give her what a straight-minded man could????
To deny yourself....YOURSELF, seems to me to be more wrong than following the path God set for you.

The End -

Much Love from Down Under,
almostheaven

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Subject: Why Homosexuality?


Author:
Al
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Date Posted: 17:25:56 11/19/09 Thu

Why is homosexuality looked at as the WORST sin by Christians. Doesn't it also say in the bible that fornication is wrong, that to steal and lie is wrong, that cheating on your spouse is wrong... etc. Why do Christians tend to look over those types of things that the bible says, and are more forgiving for them. But, when someone is a homosexual then the hate comes out of the so called " Christians" One of my cousin's grew up in a religious family, they all went to church every Sunday. She had a baby out of wed lock (which would be considered as fornication by the bible) and nothing was said. But had her brother stated he was a homosexual, then he'd probably would have been kicked out and looked upon as someone who had committed a round of serial killing murders.

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Subject: Where are some of my FAV posters??? MAX...SAN FRAN GUY...SC BANDIT...HOOKED ON PAGEANTS...MR AL USA... and many others who haven"t posted recently... I hope you all are okay???? :o) YOU ALL ARE MISSED


Author:
Lion Boy :o)
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Date Posted: 18:16:44 11/20/09 Fri


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Subject: Shawn Weatherly's article in The Item, Sumter, South Carolina


Author:
SFG
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Date Posted: 00:10:40 11/21/09 Sat

You're eating Henry Kissinger's dinner roll


By SHAWN WEATHERLY HARRIS
Special to The Item


I read in the newspaper the other day Hillary Clinton's quote when asked, "What would Bill think?" She quickly replied, "My husband is not Secretary of State, I am."

I thought, "Way to tell 'em, Hillary!"

It reminded me of my own experience with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Just the title itself, Secretary of State, can be so official sounding that we forget they're only human. The night I met Dr. Kissinger I was treated to his own very blunt but human qualities.

Lee Majors, of the TV show "Six Million Dollar Man," had talked me into joining him for another Hollywood event. After work, on Friday, I flew with Lee on his private jet into Denver from Los Angeles. This time the hook to reel me into going was Diana Ross sitting at our table and singing at the event. I'm a huge fan of the Supremes; every time I hear their music my soul is transformed, I forget all insecurities, and I am suddenly a passionate, powerful, creative woman with unlimited potential.

As Miss Universe I traveled everywhere with my chaperones Barbara and Suzanne. I never really appreciated their expertise until the years after my job as Miss Universe ended. Meeting the presidents of the United States, Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, had all gone so smoothly in the capable hands of my chaperones. When I was on my own, however, I found myself sorely lacking in the areas of etiquette and decorum.

The night I ate dinner next to Dr. Kissinger was one evening when I would have paid anything to have Suzanne or Barbara safely at my side.

"You're eating Henry Kissinger's dinner roll," Lee whispered.

What to do? What to do?



I sat at the head table of the Carousel Ball, the Juvenile Diabetes Foundations', star-studded, annual fundraiser. Henry sat on my right and his dinner roll had sat untouched on his plate for at least three of Diana Ross' songs. I figured if they weren't bringing any food, and he didn't want his roll, maybe he wouldn't mind. All day I had starved myself so I could squeeze into this purple-beaded gown I easily fit into the previous year when I made appearances as Miss Universe. Maybe I had used poor judgment, because I did feel a little light-headed now that it was 10 o'clock in the evening and all I had in my stomach was my dinner roll and countless glasses of wine. I stuffed the last bite of his roll in my mouth, leaving no evidence it was ever there.

Under the strain of hunger and a dress that was squeezing my vital organs, I was reduced to a groveling hyena, eating the former Secretary of State's food right off of his plate. I missed my chaperones. If Barbara or Suzanne were here they would run interference for me, take the roll for me or complain to the chef that I needed to eat.

My cheeks were still bulging from Henry's roll when Dr. Kissinger said, "Hello, we haven't been introduced yet, I'm Henry Kissinger. I understand you're Miss Universe."

I threw some wine in my mouth to try and get the roll down and managed to say, "Oh thanks, but I'm an ex-Miss Universe, that was last year."

"Well, ex-Miss Universe, you can eat my dinner roll anytime," he said.

"Oh my God, I am so sorry. I haven't eaten all day and … ,"

"Do they stop feeding you when you're not Miss Universe anymore?"

"Sometimes it feels like it," I said.


Photo Provided
Weatherly met many world leaders while serving as Miss Universe. Here she's with Cuban president Fidel Castro.
"That happens when you're an ex-Secretary of State too."

"I am so honored to meet you Mr. Kissinger."

"Call me Henry, please."

Henry ended up giving me his salad and his dessert. I wish I could say we discussed politics and world affairs but mostly we traded dinner disaster stories. We had both been to more huge dinner affairs than we could count.

After the ball was over, as we left the hotel, Lee and I were photographed together by swarms of paparazzi. The next week a friend called me and asked if I had seen in a tabloid the picture of Lee and me together with the caption that said in huge letters, "EX-MISS UNIVERSE PREGNANT WITH SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN'S BABY!!"

Geez! I must have really been bulging out of that dress after eating my dinner and most of Henry's.

Sumter native Shawn Weatherly Harris won the title of Miss Universe in 1980. She later became an actress, starring on TV in "Baywatch" and appearing in numerous films and other TV programs. She lives in California with her husband and children. She will write a series of stories for The Item Web site, www.theitem.com. Reach her at her email address, shawnw92660@yahoo.com.

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Subject: Oprah Show Is Ending


Author:
GE
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Date Posted: 14:15:36 11/20/09 Fri

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/19/oprah.ends.show/index.html

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Subject: Crazy lady on subway


Author:
OMG
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Date Posted: 15:58:04 11/18/09 Wed



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Subject: Courage...The REAL kind:


Author:
Cookie Dough
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Date Posted: 15:47:32 11/19/09 Thu

Meghan McCain's latest piece for the Daily Beast where she exposes the hypocricies of her father's own party.



"I find it even more disturbing that as long as you oppose gay marriage, filming yourself having sex is taken more lightly. Does anyone else see the hypocrisy in this kind of thinking? And hypocrisy is something the Republican Party can’t afford to have right now as the GOP struggles to find its identity. As I said, we all make mistakes and I don't want to be too harsh on Carrie Prejean. She is only 22, after all, and a former Miss California USA, not a politician.

The problem I have with my fellow Republicans is why gay marriage is the trump card in any situation. It seems that as long as you are against gay marriage, any scandal in your life can be overlooked or overcome. When you are in favor of it, however—and I have been very vocal about my support—that position defines you."



Just when I think I could not love this woman any more than I already do. One thing though Meghan, that hypocrisy is not just limited to Conservative reoublicans. It's also religious zealots who cherry pick as they choose.

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Subject: Nipple


Author:
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Date Posted: 20:23:43 11/19/09 Thu



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