|Subject: The MUO decade in review|
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Date Posted: 16:30:04 12/22/19 Sun
Yep, it's the end of another year and another DECADE!
What stands out for you the most from MUO pageants of the 2010s? For me...
Titleholders I loved: Katherine Haik (Teen 2015), Kaleigh Garris (Teen 2019), Erin Brady (USA, 2013), Nia Sanchez (USA 2014), Iris Mittenaere (Universe 2016), Catriona Gray (Universe 2018), Zozibini Tunzi (Universe 2019)
Some HIGH POINTS
- Angela Ponce (Spain) at Miss Universe 2018. Her moment to shine was so moving and historic.
- The demise of "sash factor" at Miss USA. Over the past decade, we saw first-time winners from Oklahoma, Nebraska, Nevada, Connecticut, and high placements for the Dakotas. (On the other hand, Miss Universe seems to be more predictable than ever. But they have been crowning deserving winners in my opinion.)
- Former titleholders on social media: one my favorite developments of the past decade is watching former titleholders do their predictions and recaps: Shandi and Susie, Dani Walker, Siera Bearchell, Nia Sanchez, and a few others.
And a few LOW POINTS
- The 2015 "error" at Miss Universe. I am still convinced this was a publicity stunt and very cruel one at that. The most shameful pageant moment of the decade for sure.
- Kaci Fennell (Jamaica) as 4th runner-up at Miss Universe 2014. That just didn't make sense based on how everything else went up till then. She really should have been in the final two.
- Rima Fakih's entire year (2010) as Miss USA.
- The rushed swimsuit and evening gown competitions of the past few years. WTF? It's the heart of the pageant, why rush through it?
- Steve Harvey. Now that his 5 year contract is done, maybe we can start the next decade with fresh blood.
What are your highs and lows from 2010 to 2019?
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- The highs were I really enjoyed miss Universe overall. It's still the most exciting event on TV. I have also enjoyed miss Universe using YouTube more. The lows Steve Harvey but he was good this year. The current miss Universe is horrific. And I agree the 2015 mistake was a lie. To this day we still have no answer why the crowning was at least 10 minutes before the top of the hour and they had enough time to recrown. (NT) -- Test, 19:35:13 12/22/19 Sun
- Two things stood out this decade: the abundance of California state hoppers at Miss USA, and the abundance of delegates representing the Southeast Asian countries (ie. Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia) at MU that are born outside Southeast Asia and have White fathers. (NT) -- Anyone else notice these?, 20:57:50 12/22/19 Sun
- I really love the fact that sash counts for less in the USA and Teen USA divisions. This was a major issue up to last decade and of course continues to be at Miss Universe. Few people noticed that the jurisdiction that is by far the smallest, DC was leading the medal table this century with 3 golds and 1 silver. North Carolina took over this year with 3 golds, 1 silver and 1 bronze. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:37:11 12/22/19 Sun
- On the Miss Universe front. I never thought I'd see a day where 5 non Latinas would win 5 contests in a raw. This was such a huge issue and it climaxed with the Latin fiesta in January 2015 when Paulina was crowned. At that point, there was rare unanimity in the forum and everyone just had enough of it. The fact that so many Southeast Asian countries went gaga over pageantry the Pinoy way, especially Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam guarantees in a way that we will see less Latina winners. Yes, the issue of Asian girls with white fathers is a huge elephant in the room. This was discussed in the forum already a few years ago. Unfortunately the trend spilled over from the Philippjnes into other countries. This year, PH, TH and ID delegates had fathees of non Southeast Asian origin. All Filipina winners in MU and MW this decade had white and older fathers. This is the trend that I hope will go away and there is less colorism in these societies. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 21:50:09 12/22/19 Sun
- You missed one first time state win @ Miss USA, Rhode Island. Miss Teen USA this decade had the first wins for Maryland and Connecticut. Miss Universe this decade had the first win for Angola. (NT) -- Basketball_Fan, 23:14:10 12/22/19 Sun
- LOWEST: MUO staff mopping the floor at the 2019 prelims livestream. HIGHEST: The beautiful stage design at Sao Paulo. Loved it's not all LED screen. (NT) -- KiwiGuy, 23:39:17 12/22/19 Sun
- Sadly this decade seven former MUO titleholders passed away: Leona Gage (dethroned Miss USA 1957) in 2010; Amparo Munoz (MU 1974) in 2011; Sylvia Hitchcock (Miss USA and MU 1967) and Luz Marina Zuluaga (MU 1958) in 2015; Charlotte Sheffield (inherited Miss USA 1957) in 2016; Linda Bement (Miss USA and MU 1960) and Chelsi Smith (Miss USA and MU 1995) in 2018. (NT) -- Basketball_Fan, 01:14:36 12/23/19 Mon
- HiIGHS: (1) THOMAS ROBERTS!!! Yum!!! (2) The magnificent and opulent looking MU 2013 stage in Russia. (3) MU 2012 Leila Lopes ó muito bonita! (4) And as much as it is very controversial, I say MU 2015 is a high too since it made a lot of noise for the org. It brought the pageant to everyoneís consciousness again. LOWS: (1) Steve Harvey (2) MU 2017s prelims at the mezzanine of a hotel. (3) MU 2019 at Tyler Studios. (4) Gabriela winning over Spain, Kaci Fenell not placing higher (4) Regional groupings!!! (NT) -- Poll, 22:23:28 12/23/19 Mon
- Something that I find interesting is how well nowadays are received pageants from 2011 and from 2013, Sao Paolo and Moscow respectively. People in general including I were quite disappointed after them and now, we seem to be much more indulgent. I noticed the same about Cyprus 2000. That pageant was so disappointing at the time but obviously the fact that 2001 was worse seems to level it out. I am just surprised that people now think this was an excellent pageant. Obviously it us better than most IMG's but still for a year 2000 a tiny hall in Nicosia. ;) (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 00:57:25 12/25/19 Wed
- Highs: The USA's placements in 2012 and 2014. Lows: My disinterest in pageants as to the point of not even watching them. And this is coming from someone who got excited over seeing the commercials on CBS. The only guarantee in life is change, but it doesn't have to be liked! (NT) -- Old Fan/New Name, 07:47:18 12/26/19 Thu
- Click in for my reply: -- facts-therealone, 14:45:12 12/26/19 Thu
- Awesome. You donít like Culpo? Lol. Iím off her now but I still think she is one of the top five MUO wins in history, incl her USA win. Now, she just seems like an empty doll for rent. I digress. Other things: I like K Fennel but I ADORED Davina Bennet. I was, and still am, devoted to her. I was ok with Rimaís win bec I couldnt get on board with Morgan. What I really want to know is what it would take for fans to finally break up with MUO. The relationship is obv not working. MUO continually rattles the fan cage with ďchangesĒ yet also keeping them notoriously uninformed with even the most basic of things. And then the fans become whiny bitches and everybody fights. They are all free to go but they stay. Iím one of the weirdos that actually like what IMG is doing, esp the production concept óexecution, not so much. I also like the new model for the winner. Luckily, Iím not interested in fighting about it so itís easier for me let othersí anger and frustration not get to me. (NT) -- eloise, 19:39:06 12/26/19 Thu
- I was not a fan of anyone in the Top 5 for Miss USA 2010, especially Morgan. So I was happy Rima won, but disappointed afterwards. You posed a good question about fans and MUO. I think the bottom line comes down to the fact that we have nowhere else to go. It's still, overall, the most important pageant around. I am actually fine with how IMG has changed Miss Universe, it's more at Miss USA where it feels like things have derailed a bit recently. Finally, I think a lot of the fighting on this board is not really about the pageant or the winner but about bigger issues of race and class that play out in a million ways on a daily basis (at least in the U.S.) In any case, it's ugly and exhausting. -- Doot, 20:53:20 12/26/19 Thu
- The fights get weird but theyre easy enough to ignore. My fav from the USA2010 top five was Sam. I loved her in teen and in miss. Youíre right, the IMG formula is not working for USA. USA judges pick the right winners to represent the USA everywhere else except in miss Universe. (NT) -- eloise, 23:14:30 12/26/19 Thu
- Sorry to say but I disagree. US Universe delegates are still competitive enough out of the IMG ones I am not a fan of Summers, other three are fine. US World delegates have not been strong since Audra Mari. How this year's delegate made top 40 at World is a bit of mistake. Also, the US has not placed at Miss International for three years. Obviously I have not seen these pageants, but I think stronger delegates were part of national competitions than the eventual winners. (NT) -- HawtPlusSeksi (nsi), 03:52:08 12/27/19 Fri
- I would find it difficult as a judge to select a winner if it would come down to two girls: one who shined that night and one that would do well at Miss Universe. (NT) -- Old Fan/New Name, 18:47:12 12/27/19 Fri
- Exactly. Thank you. (NT) -- eloise, 19:45:31 12/27/19 Fri
- This gets to an issue I have been wondering about: should the goal of the Miss USA pageant be to crown someone who will do well at Miss Universe? Or is it about choosing the best Miss USA? The two may not be the same. I'm not really sure, but I lean toward just choosing a great Miss USA. For example, Sarah Summers seemed like a perfect choice as Miss USA the night she won, even though she did not necessarily have a ton of potential for Miss Universe (and that turned out to be the case). But I'm fine with that. -- Doot, 09:07:27 12/28/19 Sat
- At Miss USA 1993, during the Final 6 judge's question, the commentator said pageant veterans thought Kelly Hu's exotic good looks would have her do well at Miss Universe. We know what happened there. IMO, of the three semi-finalist leaders that year, GA, HA and, PA, none of them would have handled the crowd in Mexico as well as Kenya. (NT) -- Old Fan/New Name, 18:54:46 12/28/19 Sat
- Warning Posters : STOP the personal attacks and negative comments. We will not tolerate this language on the board. We had to delete SEVERAL messages on this thread that were using very vulgar and profane language. (NT) -- USBModSquad, 22:03:51 12/26/19 Thu