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Subject: TOP 10 HIGHEST PUBLICIZED PRELIMINARY AVERAGE SCORES @ MISS UNIVERSE


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 22:57:36 08/06/20 Thu

The following video highlights the contestants who achieved the top 10 highest publicized preliminary average scores (swimsuit, interview, evening gown) at Miss Universe.



For those of you who do not wish to view the video, here is the breakdown:

**** The uploader claims there is a 3-way tie for 5th place but actually, there is only a 2-way tie ****

10. Rea Toutounzi (Greece), MU 1994, Score: 9.256, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Placement: 10th
9. Carolina Gomez (Colombia), MU 1994, Score: 9.268, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Placement: 1st RU
8. Leila Schuster (Brazil), MU 1993, Score: 9.287, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Placement: 7th
7. Arlene Peterkin (TnT), MU 1995, Score: 9.310, Prelim Rank: 4th, Final Placement: 4th
6. Alicia Machado (Venezuela), MU 1996), Score: 9.320, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Placement: Winner
5. TIE (not really) Tatiana Castro (Colombia), MU 1995, Score: 9.330, Prelim Rank: 3rd, Final Placement: 10th
5. TIE Desiree Lowry (Puerto Rico), MU 1995, Score: 9.333, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Placement: 5th
5. TIE Lia Victoria Borrero (Panama), MU 1997, Score: 9.333, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Placement: 6th
4. Chelsi Smith (USA), MU 1995, Score: 9.340, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Placement: Winner
3. Ali Landry (USA), MU 1996, Score: 9.350, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Placement: 6th
2. Verna Vasquez (Curacao), MU 1997, Score: 9.410, Prelim Rank 1st, Final Placement: 4th
1. Carolina Iszak (Venezuela), MU 1992, Score: 9.477, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Placement: 4th

What I find intriguing is that in the days when the same panel of judges scored the ladies in both prelims and finals, only THREE (3) of the above contestants managed to crack into the Top 3 in their respective years with 2 of them eventually winning!

Furthermore, CHELSI SMITH (RIP) of the USA is the ONLY Miss Universe contestant to achieve a 1st place publicized prelim rank to eventually go on to win the crown!

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[> Subject: In which years were the judging panels the same at prelims and finals? I didn't realize that was a thing.


Author:
whoo
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Date Posted: 03:03:50 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: I think all of the pageants listed above had the same judges for both prelims and finals, as it should be.


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Old Fan/New Name
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Date Posted: 14:19:01 08/08/20 Sat


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[> Subject: Interesting!! Of course, it's not really possible to compare scores from one year to the next. There was definitely "grade inflation" over the years, LOL. In the earliest years when they showed scores, a score in the 7s was pretty decent. By the end, contestants were getting in the high 9s.


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Doot
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Date Posted: 10:40:49 08/07/20 Fri

Interesting!! Of course, it's not really possible to compare scores from one year to the next. There was definitely "grade inflation" over the years, LOL. In the earliest years when they showed scores, a score in the 7s was pretty decent. By the end, contestants were getting in the high 9s.

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[> [> Subject: I wonder if the generosity in scoring was a natural effect or if organizers requested it to make it appear like their semifinalists were all near perfect. lol


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 20:39:52 08/07/20 Fri


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[> Subject: 1978 SS Score for Miss Holland: 2.890


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Old Fan/New Name
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Date Posted: 15:23:11 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: She should've been pulled off stage with one of those vaudeville hooks. lol


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 20:42:31 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: LOL, that was a tad harsh. On the other hand, it makes sense to use the whole available range of scores. Towards the end of the era where they showed scores, someone who was really great was getting scores like 9.7 and someone who was so-so was getting scores like 9.4.


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Doot
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Date Posted: 08:44:24 08/08/20 Sat

LOL, that was a tad harsh. On the other hand, it makes sense to use the whole available range of scores. Towards the end of the era where they showed scores, someone who was really great was getting scores like 9.7 and someone who was so-so was getting scores like 9.4.

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[> [> [> Subject: I think the org. was insisting judges score high to make it look as if all of the delegates were the creme de la creme. However, nearing the end of the 2000s, we started seeing a bit of a range in televised scores. I recall some in the 7's in 2007 and 2008.


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 00:52:41 08/09/20 Sun


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[> Subject: I never got Rea Toutounzi in 1994. I never found her attractive. She's not ugly by any means, but her hair bothered me then. I would've given her placement to Mauritius, Zimbabwe, T&T or even tiny Northern Marianas. Meh, it happened.


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Date Posted: 18:44:04 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: There was something non-patty about Rea, which I found refreshing and I thought her hair during the finals was Greek goddess like. It was polarizing but it complimented her gown, which also reminded me of a Greek sea goddess/naiad. But the judges definitely agreed with you after prelims because she dropped to 10th place like an anvil after getting the second highest prelim score. Rea also won prelim swimsuit, which came with an award that was presented to her during the coronation ball. I don't think there is another semifinalist who took a nose-dive quite like Rea. Mauritius was stunning that year! I also liked Russia, Australia, Israel, Panama, TnT and Aruba.


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 20:36:20 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> [> Subject: Interestingly, I never heard of Greece being a host country favorite either. That year, the Philippines is all eyes on 1. Venezuela, 2. Colombia, 3. Belgium, 4. Australia, 5. Thailand, 6. Switzerland, and of course Charlene Gonzales. India was not a heavy favorite but her win was widely welcomed due to her iconic answer.


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Alyssa’s Pinoy Fan
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Date Posted: 09:36:32 08/08/20 Sat

Interestingly, I never heard of Greece being a host country favorite either. That year, the Philippines is all eyes on 1. Venezuela, 2. Colombia, 3. Belgium, 4. Australia, 5. Thailand, 6. Switzerland, and of course Charlene Gonzales. India was not a heavy favorite but her win was widely welcomed due to her iconic answer.

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[> [> [> Subject: Both Kim Seelbrede, 2nd to 10th, and Courtney Gibbs, 1st to 8th, took nose dives.


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Date Posted: 17:24:29 08/08/20 Sat


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[> [> Subject: I always wondered if Rea's downfall was her hairstyle. She wore her hair in a bun during the preliminaries. Rea also seemed nervous on the final night where she came off looking stiff at times. I also thought Mauritius Vivecka Babajee was stunning that year too (RIP) as well as Aruba. I remember the country going crazy gaga over Belgium, which I never understood


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Date Posted: 11:44:03 08/08/20 Sat

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[> [> [> Subject: She had a cute, angelic face that the locals adored. She’s their definition of beauty.


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Date Posted: 02:30:16 08/21/20 Fri

She had a cute, angelic face that the locals adored. She’s their definition of beauty.

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[> Subject: The comment on Chelsi’s 1st in prelims to eventual winner is true if you are only looking at the list posted above. But Shawn, Maritza, Yvonne, and Lupita all completed the same feat.


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Date Posted: 21:00:33 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: Correct.


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 21:05:36 08/07/20 Fri


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[> Subject: Comparing scores from year to year is like comparing oranges and apples. To me, I look at a contestant’s domination. Maritza, Shawn, Cecilia, Porntip, Angela, Lupita, and Alichia were all dominate during their respective year. However, I doubt we’ll ever see another Miss USA be as dominant as Shawn was at both USA and Universe.


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Date Posted: 21:10:47 08/07/20 Fri


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[> [> Subject: Irene Saez also won prelims and all SF areas.


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Observation
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Date Posted: 17:33:35 08/08/20 Sat


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[> Subject: For comparison, the top 10 highest publicized prelim average @ Miss USA inside.


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Basketball_Fan
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Date Posted: 15:25:04 08/08/20 Sat

10. Shirelle Hebert (LA USA 1994), Score 9.302, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Result: Top 6 (4th)
9. Amy Fissel (NJ USA 1993), Score 9.309, Prelim Rank: 4th, Final Result: Top 6 (5th)
8. Chelsi Smith (TX USA 1995), Score 9.33, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Winner
7. Katie Young (TX USA 1992), Score: 9.348, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Top 11 (8th)
6. Kimmarie Johnson (PA USA 1993) Score: 9.357, Prelim Rank: 3rd, Final Result: Top 6 (6th)
5. Lu Parker (SC USA 1994), Score: 9.459, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Winner
4. Danielle Boatwright (KS USA 1996), Score: 9.47, Prelim Rank 1st, Final Result: 1st RU
3. Kelly Hu (HI USA 1993), Score: 9.488, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Result: Top 6 (4th)
2. Kenya Moore (MI USA 1993), Score: 9.493, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Winner
1. Michelle Royer (TX USA 1987), Score: 9.577, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Winner

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[> [> Subject: Interesting how Kenya, who was 1st in preliminaries, was in the middle of the pack for each SF competition, but her Top 6 response pulled her into the Top 3 and between her final answer combined with the judges remembering her during preliminaries, gave her the crown.


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Date Posted: 17:30:44 08/08/20 Sat


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[> Subject: I’d say look at teen USA for the biggest changes. Lots of girls flipped their positions between preliminaries and finals.


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Date Posted: 13:03:14 08/22/20 Sat


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[> [> Subject: For comparison, the top 10 highest publicized prelim average @ Miss Teen USA inside.


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Basketball_Fan
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Date Posted: 14:33:11 08/22/20 Sat

9. Leah Sexton (MO Teen USA 1996), Score: 9.26, Prelim Rank: 5th, Final Result: Top 6 (5th)
9. Keylee Sue Sanders (KS Teen USA 1995), Score: 9.26, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Result: Winner
7. Christie Lee Woods (TX Teen USA 1996), Score: 9.27, Prelim Rank: 4th, Final Result: Winner
7. Corinna Clark (FL Teen USA 1995), Score: 9.27, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Top 12 (10th)
6. Heather Hart (IN Teen USA 1991) Score: 9.288, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Top 12 (7th)
5. Latoya Farley (OK Teen USA 1996), Score: 9.31, Prelim Rank: 3rd, Final Result: Top 10 (7th)
4. Patricia Campbell (PA USA 1996), Score: 9.32, Prelim Rank 2nd, Final Result: 1st RU
3. Shelly Moore (TN Teen USA 1997), Score: 9.34, Prelim Rank: 2nd, Final Result: Winner
2. Mariah Bergman (KS Teen USA 1997), Score: 9.37, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Top 6 (5th)
1. Katrina Bergstrom (ND Teen USA 1996), Score: 9.40, Prelim Rank: 1st, Final Result: Top 10 (9th)

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