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Subject: Don't you find it suspicious that in 2001 that Puerto Rico and Russia were the only ones called last among their continental groups but everyone else was alphabetical and that Russia placed in 2001 when no way in Hell should she have placed. They told Russia to send Fedorova's runner-up in 2001 and they put her in top 10 to prove to Russia that they can get away with anything because the win was going to Puerto Rico in 2001 and they saved Oxana's win for the next year so that's why she was sent for 2002 and conveniently dethroned so that her runner-up from Panama could take the crown and be the reigning Miss Universe for the next year when Panama hosted in 2003. Oxana was probably in on the whole dethroning too. Miss Universe is like Miss World in the sense that winners and runners-up are all pre-determined.


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Date Posted: 19:22:17 08/17/17 Thu
In reply to: curious 's message, "The Pageant That Seemed Fixed The most" on 17:07:16 07/21/17 Fri


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[> [> Subject: But it was fairly common before that for the winner from one year to become the host country the following year. A few that come to mind: Philippines (winner in 73, host in 74), USA/Hawaii (winner in 97, host in 98), Trinidad & Tobago (winner in 98, host in 99), etc.


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Date Posted: 19:51:13 08/17/17 Thu

But it was fairly common before that for the winner from one year to become the host country the following year. A few that come to mind: Philippines (winner in 73, host in 74), USA/Hawaii (winner in 97, host in 98), Trinidad & Tobago (winner in 98, host in 99), etc.

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[> [> [> Subject: Back then, they already knew who was hosting the next year unlike these days. Shortly after Oxana was crowned, you can hear host Phil Simms say, "See you next year in Panama."


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Date Posted: 14:50:45 08/18/17 Fri


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