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Subject: NJ is next weekend... who's ready for the most rigged pageant of them all?


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Date Posted: 02:46:36 10/10/17 Tue


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[> Subject: You are correct and NY comes in a close second..


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Date Posted: 03:08:34 10/10/17 Tue


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[> Subject: Just curious, what makes you say that? Maybe a poor choice of judges some years


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Date Posted: 06:22:06 10/10/17 Tue


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[> Subject: Everyone knew that NY Teen was going to be diverse because of the summer scandal with Teen USA over the Top 5 being all blondes. To prop up the winner the 1st runner up was weak. But she had a story since her mother died. The top 5 with the exception of LI has no stage presence, could not walk nor pose properly. They wanted the 16 year old fashion model who when she smiles is not facially attractive to win. I canít upload an image of the first runner up in swimsuit that proves what Iím saying. There were several Beautiful teens that should have made Top 5. But they chose the weakest to prop Isabella. Go to the professional photographerís site that took the images and you will see for yourself. JMO


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OP
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Date Posted: 07:14:14 10/10/17 Tue


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[> Subject: My early predition for NJ Teen - a girl named Carsyn will take the Teen title this year in NJ. 1st runner will be Kaitlyn King but only if nj has good judges.


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pageant watcher
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Date Posted: 10:24:53 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: ^^ agree they will (should!) be in the top 5. Ava T. maybe as well (is she competing this year?) Wish they would post pics so we can see all of the choices!


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Date Posted: 11:03:32 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> Subject: Ava T. is not competing this year, she is currently a titleholder for the United States system.


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Date Posted: 14:22:45 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Carsyn Norway,??


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PACO
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Date Posted: 00:59:00 10/11/17 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: Assuming that's who they mean she was 1st ru last year


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Date Posted: 09:03:01 10/11/17 Wed


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[> Subject: Top 5 contestants for Miss?


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D&Dgirls
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Date Posted: 11:03:30 10/10/17 Tue

Does anyone have early picks for Miss NJ USA top 5? winner?

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[> Subject: I'm good friends with a judge on last year's New Jersey judging panel. She raved about the winners for months, very excited about their potential at the national pageants. They were definitely her picks to win, so I'm not sure why you claim it is a rigged pageant? Just because your favorite did not win does not mean its rigged...


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ICEMAN
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Date Posted: 13:13:32 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Did you watch the teen walk on stage? She walked like she had two left feet. I'm involved with another system in Jersey and i've heard rumors of the director handpicking the teen because they knew her not having the typical pageant look would raise numbers.


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Nj
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Date Posted: 13:30:41 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> Subject: I'm not saying I love either the Teen or the Miss. But I can say that they were the judges picks. So I dont agree when people suggest it is a "rigged pageant."


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ICEMAN
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Date Posted: 13:32:36 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: No disrespect to your friend, but did you see the qualifications of the judges? Very few of them ever encountered a pageant in their life. It was obvious they'd pick a non pageant girl.


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Jj
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Date Posted: 13:34:53 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: She is more than qualified to judge any pageant system, at any level.


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ICEMAN
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Date Posted: 13:39:45 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: I agree with ICEMAN, in that I don't think it is rigged. Just think the judges are perhaps not properly guided. Miss was great (obviously as she was 1st RU!) Teen must have done an awesome interview; she really did not have any stage presence at all. It was painfully obvious if you watched the Teen USA pageant that she was way out of her league. Your friend must have judged the Miss.


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Date Posted: 13:33:28 10/10/17 Tue


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[> Subject: Does anyone remember reading on here that at nj orientation they kept emphasizing "it does not matter if it is your first time, it does not matter if you aren't tall" which was the demographics of 4/5 of the top 5. And maybe 1-2 deserved to be there. NJ picks based off of what will appeal to young kids and encourage them to join someone "relatable looking" not someone with striking traits or even the "pageant look" because their numbers are constantly lowering. If you are tall, blonde, or even have the pageant look you have little to no chance winning here anymore. Look at how many amazing TEENS (not misses they did well) were missed because of this switch.


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Gina
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Date Posted: 13:40:03 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Well, of course they will say that; they want to keep their numbers up; but do they really mean it? I guess we will see come SUnday if that is going to be their new norm, or if last year was just a fluke. And the numbers are higher this year, I heard more than 90 in teen...


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Date Posted: 13:58:35 10/10/17 Tue


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[> Subject: NJ is so not rigger.....I was at the pageant last year and both winners were definitely standouts and that's why they won, they both had excellent stage presence!!!!.....I was at orientation back in 2008 and they said the same thing, so that blows your theory!!!


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Date Posted: 14:11:42 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Totally disagree with your statement regarding the Teen winner - the teen came from out of nowhere, it was a complete shock, she wasn't even on the radar.


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Date Posted: 14:44:01 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> Subject: That's ok you can disagree with me, we all have a difference of opinion. After she was called into Top 15 my daughter even turned around to me and said "look out for that girl".......even though I don't think she was the best looking one up there she definitely had a spark and that's what caught the judges attention and that's why she won!!!!! I also think that's why the Miss won, she had a little something extra!!!!


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PGMomma
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Date Posted: 15:03:28 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: I dont think the judges know who is "on the radar" and who is supposed to win by local standards. Nor should they. So as long as the judge's pick takes the title, I see no issue here. Doesnt mean the fan favorite will always win.


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ICEMAN
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Date Posted: 15:20:28 10/10/17 Tue


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[> Subject: Is Jenny Chu competing this year?


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Curious
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Date Posted: 14:38:24 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: I think she aged out


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Date Posted: 17:53:48 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> Subject: Most of the standouts aged out or are no longer competiting.


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Lopal
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Date Posted: 21:54:03 10/10/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Sonthere could be some NEW standouts. That's generally how it works... people age out and new girls come in


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Date Posted: 17:38:57 10/11/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Looks like NJ teen mamas on here bashing again. Just wait until Sunday if their pageant girl does not make the cut


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JMO
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Date Posted: 20:21:50 10/11/17 Wed


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