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Subject: Miss Universe recent TV ratings history


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Birdie
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Date Posted: 02:24:06 11/28/17 Tue

I know network TV ratings are down across the board, and the greater importance of international markets, but this trend looks pretty ominous:

2017 (Nov 2017): aired on Sunday
1.1 rating, 4.41 million viewers
2016 (Jan 2017): aired on Sunday
1.5 rating, 5.22 million viewers
2015 (Dec 2015): aired on Sunday, first one on Fox with IMG, Steve Harvey's "mistake"
1.7 rating, 6.2 million viewers
2014 (Jan 2015): aired on Sunday, last one on NBC/Trump
2.0 rating, 7.6 million viewers
2013 (Nov 2013): aired on Saturday
0.9 rating, 3.8 million viewers
2012 (Dec 2012): aired on Wednesday
1.8 rating, 6.1 million viewers

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[> Subject: 1.1? LOL. This ship is SINKING


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Sell the pageant before it is worth nothing.
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Date Posted: 03:31:10 11/28/17 Tue


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[> Subject: It looks like December gets at least 6 million viewers and November gets the worst ratings so to get the best ratings, they should have it on the Sunday before Christmas (Dec. 23, 2018 or maybe Dec. 16 if the 23rd is too close to Christmas). I wonder why Jan. 2015 was much higher. Was it because of Nick Jonas? Or was it because of 2014 being the first year to not have a Miss Universe pageant during that actual year?


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Rosha Shauna
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Date Posted: 04:08:16 11/28/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: 2015 was higher because it was the first broadcast pageant after Trump said that Mexico sends their 'bad people' Miss USA was pulled off the network earlier that year.


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So there was a lot of pent-up Trump/Pageant interest...
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Date Posted: 04:48:26 11/28/17 Tue


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[> [> [> Subject: No I don't think this is right. First pageant after that was on some no name network called "Reelz" and it definitely wasn't highly rated


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not sure
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Date Posted: 06:25:24 11/28/17 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: This is miss Universe ratings not miss usa.


Author:
Vegas
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Date Posted: 08:04:09 11/28/17 Tue


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[> Subject: Numbers dont lie. So many for many many years have excuses on why ratings are low. "There was football on" "It was a basketball game" blah blah blah. The reality is, numbers are down. As fans get older they contiue to go down. I dont see younger generations into pageants like the current fans.


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this is absolutey a sinking ship.
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Date Posted: 09:08:25 11/28/17 Tue


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[> Subject: When was the last time that MU had a decent rating? There will be a time when MU will just be live streamed, just like MW.


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With so many avenues to get "famous", televised pageants are no longer getting people's attention
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Date Posted: 09:17:31 11/28/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: The last time Miss Universe finished top 10 in the ratings was in 2002.


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WilliamNYC
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Date Posted: 00:11:37 11/29/17 Wed


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[> Subject: I get it. And yet, there are more crazy niche events on TV than ever. I see motocross, baking shows, obstacle courses... It seems like there must be an appropriate way to have a televised pageant, even if it ultimately ends up being something other than a major network.


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Old timer
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Date Posted: 09:32:51 11/28/17 Tue

I get it. And yet, there are more crazy niche events on TV than ever. I see motocross, baking shows, obstacle courses... It seems like there must be an appropriate way to have a televised pageant, even if it ultimately ends up being something other than a major network.

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[> Subject: Really...? Who watched it on TV? I watched it on the internet, just like last year and just like all the people I know.


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Any internet statistics?
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Date Posted: 23:46:54 11/28/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Right? Me, too! I'm not sure how reliable tv ratings really are today as a measurement of the actual reach of a broadcast? I'm sure MANY MANY people watched on various feeds and streams that were not measured.


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Tiki-Java
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Date Posted: 01:59:47 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: Its also fair worth mentioning it was up against the NFL.


Author:
ICEMAN
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Date Posted: 12:45:32 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> Subject: MUO can't beat the NFL. One would think MUO learned their lesson after Miss Universe 2011 was head-to-head with Monday Night Football. I think MUO's ideal schedule whould be Miss USA in April, Miss Universe in July, Miss Teen USA in August.


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Basketball Fan
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Date Posted: 13:21:43 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Meant "would be". Typo.


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Basketball Fan
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Date Posted: 13:33:26 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: There are also many Miss Universe parties watching one huge TV screen.


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WilliamNYC
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Date Posted: 17:39:02 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> Subject: Which is why you have to correlate this with other information - such as the declining state pageant numbers. Also, advertisers pay on TV. How much money did MUO get from any livestreams that evening?


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Granted, this affects more than MUO, but it is still a failing model of business.
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Date Posted: 16:55:02 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: GREAT point.


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This ship is sinking.
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Date Posted: 22:47:06 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> Subject: I will never watch it on tv again. I was highly annoyed that people on here who were streaming it knew all of the results before I did watching it on television. From here on out I will be streaming the pageant over the internet.


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nope
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Date Posted: 18:59:29 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: Question: Does anyone have any additional details as to why the preliminary competition was in that much smaller mezzanine level of PH and not the stage? I'm just curious because just a few short months ago, IMG had the resources together to have the Miss USA pageant preliminaries on the main stage at Mandalay Bay. It seems like Miss Universe, a much larger pageant in viewership and participation than Miss USA would certainly have the same treatment?


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Confused
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Date Posted: 20:21:31 11/29/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Supposedly if was for security reasons. The could of done it in the main stage with the delegate's families and national directors. I guess it was too costly and the excuse was 'security reasons'.


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I wouldn't be surprised if MU disappears in the near future.
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Date Posted: 22:54:38 11/29/17 Wed


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[> Subject: It's hard to know the real ratings, whether TV and/or Internet. The ratings might have gone down in the US but I'm sure they went up worldwide, just imagine the millions of pageant crazy countries, particularly Asia and Latin countries. I wonder how many millions of people watched this in the Philippines alone!


Author:
Fan II
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Date Posted: 16:06:05 11/30/17 Thu


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[> [> Subject: Don't forget the Filipino Diaspora (U.S., Canada, Australia, Europe, etc...), we watched too, 10.2 Million scattered around the globe beyond the Philippines.


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Anon-ie
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Date Posted: 16:12:54 11/30/17 Thu


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