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Subject: Mexico's first displeasure with MU...the 3rd RU...is Miss Columbia...thoughts?


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John O.
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Date Posted: 00:00:04 12/03/17 Sun


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[> Subject: Saw live in 1978. Never anticipated the audience reaction to Columbia's placement. With this being the first time scores were shown, I was not entirely sure how USA would place. SA's final answer was well-delivered.


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Watcher from Years Ago
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Date Posted: 10:56:01 12/03/17 Sun


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[> [> Subject: Itís COLOMBIA people...ITíS COLOOOOOOMBIA!!! Ugh


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Date Posted: 11:07:41 12/03/17 Sun


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[> Subject: can someone pls explain this post? Sorry if I sound stupid. i know it's a comparison to last sunday's crowning. Why did they boo Colombia?


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possum
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Date Posted: 11:03:53 12/03/17 Sun


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[> [> Subject: For some reason, the audience rallied behind Columbia as the night progressed.


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Original Poster
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Date Posted: 11:42:34 12/03/17 Sun


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[> [> [> Subject: I found this especially interesting because Mexico was also in the top 10, but they were behind Colombia.


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weird.
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Date Posted: 11:56:02 12/03/17 Sun


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[> [> Subject: Easy to understand. Since Mexico didn't make the top 5, Mexicans usually support the next latina still in the competition, Colombia in this case. They expected Colombia to win the title but since she was pronounced third runner-up only, they didn't like the results and booed the judges decision, this has nothing to do against Colombia. Same thing happened this year after Jamaica was second runner-up, many didn't like the results and began booing, nothing against Jamaica but against the judges.


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It's also true that Mexicans love booing
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Date Posted: 08:46:16 12/04/17 Mon


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[> Subject: How beautiful did Janelle/Penny look during her final walk?? My god...


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Date Posted: 14:28:00 12/03/17 Sun


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[> Subject: ok, so because colombia advnced further than Mexico which prompted mexico's universe hatred?


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possum
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Date Posted: 23:29:06 12/03/17 Sun


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[> Subject: That was a very strange year. If you remember there was a lot of protest about South Africa even being allowed to compete because of Apartheid. When it got to the top five I thought USA was going to take it but then she totally blew the final question. But even then when it got down to her and South Africa I thought they would for sure avoid controvesry and give it to USA. But much to my sutpise they gave it to South Africa and I remember they did take quite a bit of heat for that Somebody please refresh my memory. Wasn't South Africa barred from competing after that until Apartheid was ended?


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johnnycbeegood
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Date Posted: 09:23:52 12/04/17 Mon


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[> [> Subject: South Africa did not have a rep at MU from 1985-1994. Margaret had difficulty getting a Visa to Mexico because of the apartheid issue.


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John O.
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Date Posted: 10:50:27 12/04/17 Mon


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[> [> Subject: I always thought the BIG story was that people in South Africa were pissed that Margaret was crowned by a Black woman. And, in this video, you can see that there isn't the normal sisterly love expressed between the outgoing and incoming queen. It is almost scary.


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SeminoleNation
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Date Posted: 15:09:21 12/04/17 Mon


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[> [> [> Subject: Based on what you wrote, I thought it would be more bizarre... but it wasn't... It was an awkward situation to both of them, the first black MU and the first SA MU during Apartheid. They both handled it well, yes... there were no hugs etc, but it did not really look that awkward.., if you put two other countries in, and one Black and one White delegate, I doubt it would have looked much different, especially with that many people on that stage.


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HawtPlusSeksi
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Date Posted: 19:45:38 12/04/17 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Hmm. Again, hmm.


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SeminoleNation
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Date Posted: 20:46:27 12/04/17 Mon


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[> [> [> [> Subject: It WAS bizarre.


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SeminoleNation
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Date Posted: 12:53:33 12/06/17 Wed


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Zuleyka crowning Riyo was more bizarre. Just because it was a strange political situation, I won't follow groupthink and claim it was bizarre just for the sake of it.


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HawtPlusSeksi
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Date Posted: 07:09:10 12/07/17 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: It was bizarre and awkward. "Groupthink" is irrelevant. Apartheid was at play.


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SeminoleNation
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Date Posted: 15:47:38 12/09/17 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I dont see the "awkward" you are implying. Yes, the situation may have been uncomfortable. But I think both young ladies look very nice and presented very well. I also dont like the notion that South Africa shouldnt have won based on political issues back at home. I dont think pageants and politics should ever mix. May the best girl win.


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ICEMAN
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Date Posted: 13:22:36 12/10/17 Sun


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[> Subject: One of the most awkward crownings. I heard Margaret was a very sweet girl and ended up becoming roommates with MUSA after both ended their reigns.


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ureka smoke
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Date Posted: 19:44:49 12/04/17 Mon


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[> [> Subject: Totally agree. Just awkward.


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SeminoleNation
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Date Posted: 20:51:16 12/04/17 Mon


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[> Subject: I wonder if this crowning was awkward because of the apartheid that was going on in South Africa at the time? A white woman being crowned by a black woman? It seems like the winner totally ignored the girl crowning her.


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IanSebastin
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Date Posted: 22:32:02 12/05/17 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Probably. It'd be like a segregationist from Alabama getting crowned by the outgoing Black civil rights marching winner from Detroit. One doesn't even think the other should be allowed in her space yet she has to be crowned by her.


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Heck yeah it was awkward. Apartheid was horrific against all peoples of color and the worst Black people
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Date Posted: 00:54:51 12/06/17 Wed


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[> Subject: South Africa was mentioned as a contender, but was under the radar during the final night. She won based upon the USA's (imo) disappoining answer and Mararet's confident response. she was the last finalist answer the judges heard.


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John O.
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Date Posted: 06:48:55 12/06/17 Wed


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[> [> Subject: Notice after USA is called, Mexico says to Columbia that she's next. Margaret's answer was the last response the judges heard and it's the reason she vaulted to the title.


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John O.
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Date Posted: 20:32:23 12/06/17 Wed


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[> Subject: As I recall Judi Anderson's final answer was very fluffy & lightweight -- that probably was her undoing.


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nsi
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Date Posted: 09:51:09 12/06/17 Wed


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[> Subject: Beautiful top 2


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But SA deserved to win
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Date Posted: 23:24:19 12/06/17 Wed


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[> Subject: Miss USA was GORGEOUS! Shame she didn't do a better job answering the question, but judging by how they all answered back then, that portion of the competition wasn't taken as seriously as it is now. They all gave light hearted answers.


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TST . . .
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Date Posted: 17:06:06 12/09/17 Sat


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[> Subject: In one of the most surreal moments in MUO history, the outgoing Miss Universe is the first Black winner and the final two are White women from Apartheid South Africa and a United States that was only 10 years past the Civil Rights Movement. Despite that, I still would've chosen Miss USA for the win.


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Basketball Fan
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Date Posted: 17:55:25 12/09/17 Sat


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[> [> Subject: margret Gardner hands down after that spain, margret is better then the current Miss U in my opinopn and I agree Miss Usa would have done better with a more serious answer


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sammy
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Date Posted: 21:23:24 12/09/17 Sat


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[> Subject: Of the MUSA's that were 1st RU since 1970, Judi was the most gracious and congratulatory toward the winner.


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Bitter Table for One
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Date Posted: 21:42:52 12/09/17 Sat


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