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Subject: We know for certain the live finalists are pre determined (all or a certain number). During the live show, I think the judges score actually counts but there is someone who reviews the list at each cut. I think it is more than Paula and her team are promoting the story, diversity, body image narrative. So naturally Deshauna and Kara won on story. Universe is tricky because they still need to appeal to the masses.

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Date Posted: 11:30:25 03/20/18 Tue
In reply to: Old timer 's message, "A serious question on predetermining a winner..." on 21:23:57 03/19/18 Mon

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[> Subject: I've pondered this for years. I think the judges are there for show only. I think the organization can announce any finalists they want, crown anyone they want, any time they want to. I believe the 2012 "list" supposedly seen by Sheena Monin. I believe she saw it but didn't have proof, and I believe that, in typical of his style, the later-to-be POTUS 45 sued the sh**t out of her to keep he quiet.

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Date Posted: 14:15:56 03/20/18 Tue

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