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Subject: from someone who works where prizes are given out


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Date Posted: 14:44:33 03/20/18 Tue
In reply to: Old timer 's message, "A serious question on predetermining a winner..." on 21:23:57 03/19/18 Mon

there are all kinds of government regulations and paperwork that is required when a prize is offered in a contest. And there are auditors that make sure we do what we say we're doing. The contest rules must be published and we must follow them and if we don't we can be fined.
Somewhere there must be official judging guidelines so that a contestant is fully aware. The pageant must follow those guidelines.

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[> Subject: We know that MUO is a voter. What we don't know is how much their vote counts - or how it is figured in. For all we know, MUO has 80% of the vote, or perhaps they can veto 1,2,3 individuals. We have no idea. Unless they publish the criteria - it could be anything.


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And.... they don't publish the criteria. This is where fairy tales meet cold dispassionate business.
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Date Posted: 15:24:14 03/20/18 Tue


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[> [> Subject: That is a good point, and I think it is where the pageant has lost a lot of credibility in recent years. Back in the day, they used to make a big deal about the scoring and judging and explaining how it was done, etc. I may have disagreed with the choice of a winner, but I was always pretty confident that the judges actually chose her. These days, it feels like anything is possible, since nothing is transparent anymore.


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Date Posted: 16:26:15 03/20/18 Tue

That is a good point, and I think it is where the pageant has lost a lot of credibility in recent years. Back in the day, they used to make a big deal about the scoring and judging and explaining how it was done, etc. I may have disagreed with the choice of a winner, but I was always pretty confident that the judges actually chose her. These days, it feels like anything is possible, since nothing is transparent anymore.

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[> [> [> Subject: Miss USA is like Roller Derby, we knew it was fixed but it was a guilty pleasure. The final question is a lot easier under IMG than under Trump. Someone suggested, that some contestants have a general idea which questions maybe asked under IMG. Under Trump, I think the final questions were unrehearsed.


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Date Posted: 20:14:07 03/20/18 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: that really is a bad idea. When she wins she could put her foot in her mouth; so many do under pressure. For some reason I had not thought about the fact that MUO has a votr ( and no one says how much it counts for) so it could be done easily if they have say 80% of the vote. At this point I do not know why anyone would invest so much in this.


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Date Posted: 22:10:14 03/20/18 Tue


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