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Subject: NO MORE WILDCARDS. Wow to all these arguments. They can do all this continental BS assuring "equal" distrubution but by god please call Top 20 the usual random way. Imagine if your group gets the call first and youre not in the 5. You'll be left there enduring the pain of the Top 20 cattle call.


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KiwiGuy
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Date Posted: 03:20:57 11/30/19 Sat


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[> Subject: NO OCEANIA. My girls AUSTRALIA and NEW ZEALAND can go home now.


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KiwiGuy
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Date Posted: 03:22:36 11/30/19 Sat

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[> [> Subject: Wow! MUO has basically screwed over Oceania and Asia as a whole and given Africa some freebie spots. Is this in pursuit of black celebration? As of now, BARBADOS is my favorite black delegate but I don't know how she will fare since the Americas is quite competitive. I always thought the WILDCARDS brought much needed balance to this regional mess of a system. Now that balance is gone.


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 06:56:22 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> Subject: There's nothing about this mentioned on MUO's website/social media though.


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MU_Critic
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Date Posted: 07:19:14 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> [> Subject: I noticed that Africa was broken out separately in the "Up Close" videos and was wondering if it was just for the videos or if it meant they were reorganizing the semifinals this way. Wow, they just need to stop the madness and chose the 20 best contestants.


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Doot
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Date Posted: 08:53:29 11/30/19 Sat

I noticed that Africa was broken out separately in the "Up Close" videos and was wondering if it was just for the videos or if it meant they were reorganizing the semifinals this way. Wow, they just need to stop the madness and chose the 20 best contestants.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Africa has been screwed the last two years. Last year S.Africa was the only placement where as Asia had 4 plus two wildcards. Yall racism has been showing. The Europeans have been the group that got the underserved spots the last two years.


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Date Posted: 11:50:25 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Agree re Europeans. They get filler spots and most are cut after the first round anyway.


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Basketball_Fan
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Date Posted: 13:52:19 11/30/19 Sat


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[> Subject: I agree 100% with MU_Critic! Africa is always the weakest group and now theyre getting handout placements because Madeas house is hosting the event


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Make Miss Universe Great Again!
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Date Posted: 12:14:43 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> Subject: At least 8/20 will be black--5 from Africa, plus Ireland plus Haiti plus USA. After Asia and Latinas from S America- you will have France and maybe Sweden and Albania as the token white girls.


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Ah diversity
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Date Posted: 14:21:03 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> Subject: White women have been crowned undeservedly for years . Stop being a racist . Its so obvious


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Seriously
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Date Posted: 14:37:37 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Ah, when all else fails cry racism.


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Works all the time.
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Date Posted: 14:51:06 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: That's what you are doing.


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Date Posted: 15:13:24 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: No that's what you are doing. I believe people should win pageants based on merit. For example in Miss USA 2020 so far my top two contenders are Mississippi and Rhode Island (both black) that hardly makes me a white racist


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Ok
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Date Posted: 15:48:37 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> Subject: Lebanon and Egypt makes up part of the Africa group. So they all may not be black.


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Date Posted: 14:49:55 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Please let me know what Miss Universe who happened to be white was crowned unfairly.


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Name one please
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Date Posted: 14:53:44 11/30/19 Sat


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[> Subject: I dont understand the argument. Only one girl wins. If you are the best in the pageant, you are obviously one of the best from your region, whatever that is. You have a top 5 competition at the get-go. Just be the best right away. Im not a mathematician so if there is any formula involved that shows how this is unfair then Ill shut up but I have no problem with the regional breakdown. And I truly welcome the removal of the wildcard.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 14:57:45 11/30/19 Sat

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[> [> Subject: Well because obviously there may be more than five girls who are deserving to get in from a particular region but that artificial barrier keeps them out -that's what's wrong with it


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Why can't they just have the top 20 contestants with the highest scores no matter what region they are from
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Date Posted: 15:05:59 11/30/19 Sat


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[> [> [> Subject: I get that but I just think that if you are a clear contender, there is no way you will miss the top5 in regional, regardless of how the other favs who were left behind could beat the other regional winners. And I have to believe that there was something unlikable with the favs who were left behind. I do see how other regions could have a weaker top 5 on stage as a result but that doesnt bug me anymore bec they get weeded out right away and we are then left with the best 10 of all, with the most articulate platforms, to compete in swim and gown.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 15:21:36 11/30/19 Sat

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Because the pageant gives so little exposure to the rest of the contestants, making Top 15/20 is important because of the recognition, so when you have semi-finalists who are replacing more worthy delegates, then what was the point of having them there if they weren't viable contenders? This year, for example, the Asia/Pacific group is particularly strong and I could see 10 of them in the Top 15/20, many of whom represent countries that have never qualified, like Mongolia, Myanmar, and Bangladesh. I'm always reminded of Miss USA 1992, when they showed scores, and Shannon Marketic had the lowest score of all the semi-finalists, but went on to win. You never know who will pour it on and pull out a Top 5 finish, but when you put in regional qualifiers that just get weeded out after the first cut, then you're depriving a potential finalist/winner because they came from a highly competitive group.


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Ciao500
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Date Posted: 15:27:48 12/01/19 Sun


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[> Subject: I do not like this continent grouping but to me it's more of a temporary nuisance... it will go away and I think it will soon. This will be the fifth pageant with IMG and Steve Harvey, so they are still looking for their brand. Harvey has been unpopular with fans from the get go, as has been pushing extreme left wing agenda by the disconnected, NYC based org. Having said that, I do not mind 5 spots for Africa at all. They should have way, way more African countries for decades now.... I could see lovely South Africa, Sierra Leone, Angola, Kenya and why not Mauritius for the first time... and they would all deserve it. I would not worry that much about Blacks in the Americas as USA, and 2 of 3: Dom Rep, Haiti and Barbados would make it... and they would add 2 non Black Latinas for Telemundo. And in Europe, they could.put three Biracisl Blacks out of 5: Ireland, Germany, Iceland and a Filipina Belgium and then France for franchise fees.


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HawtPlusSeksi (nsi)
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Date Posted: 15:34:31 11/30/19 Sat


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[> Subject: The only thing I dont like about Africa getting 5 spots is that there are only a few contestants competing from that region. Maybe they should have added the Middle East with Africa as one region.


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PF-Indy
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Date Posted: 14:20:31 12/01/19 Sun


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[> [> Subject: Here is how groups should go? Top four from 5 region's. Asia pacific, africa and middle east, Americas, Europe, and Caribbean.


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Date Posted: 16:08:09 12/01/19 Sun


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[> Subject: Go back to the old days. Top 10 compete in all areas, name a top 5, using headphones ask each one why they should be MU, final look, name 4 ru's and winner. The 2 girls that don't make final 3 should know which was 3rd ru and 4th ru.


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ghrtt3
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Date Posted: 22:35:47 12/01/19 Sun


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[> Subject: Is this even true, though? Miss Universe has announced that the public will be a public vote for one of the top 20 spots. This would fit a wildcard section and not a strict 5x4 breakdown? Seems like a rumour.


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ADL
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Date Posted: 02:58:14 12/02/19 Mon


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[> Subject: MUO must change its groupings to the following categories: (a) blondes, (b) brown-haired and redheads, (c) latinas, (d) asians and pacific islanders, and (e) blacks and mulattos.


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Meeeeh Too Movement
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Date Posted: 03:43:28 12/02/19 Mon


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