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Subject: I donít think the judges were wrong crowning her. I thought she was beautiful but imo, we had our blinders on for Patricia maybe? It was a tough call.

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Date Posted: 19:46:43 12/26/19 Thu
In reply to: David 's message, "I agree on Gabriella's win. Seeing Venezuela win its 17th crown with a super generic contestant over the stunnigly beautiful Spain was a major head scratcher. I think this might have even been the first case of wrongly read results. Even the camera man focused on Patricia." on 15:20:21 12/25/19 Wed

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[> [> Subject: Venezuela was just so "safe" in 2013. Spain was on fire.

But those were the Telemundo days and Spain is still Europe and not Latin America
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Date Posted: 12:21:13 12/30/19 Mon

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[> [> Subject: Just imagine, had Patricia won, we would have our first out lesbian Miss Universe titleholder.

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Date Posted: 22:21:04 12/31/19 Tue

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