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Subject: Yes but I suspect Julie is a sweetheart. I once sent her an email expressing how glad I was when she won over Texas at Miss USA & she was kindd enough to reply. PLUS, if you watch closely you can see two contestants in the background visibly pleased Julie wins over Lisa Allred.


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(Not to editorialize but Julie was robbed at Miss Universe & Lorraine's transformation the next year is legendary as one of the hugest makeovers ever.)
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Date Posted: 05:07:14 01/07/20 Tue
In reply to: Old Fan/New Name 's message, "The only Miss USA who was 1RU at Miss Universe to not hug or congratulate the winner, as far as we can see from video, was Julie Hayek." on 20:43:31 01/06/20 Mon


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[> [> Subject: Lorraine said Julie kept telling her during her reign that there was a computer error happened on the finals thus lessening her confidence by and by.


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Date Posted: 05:20:12 01/08/20 Wed

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[> [> [> Subject: You might have heard this rumor that was floating around in the late 1990s/early 2000s. During a Miss Teen USA competition where the then-reigning Miss USA and Miss Universe were in attendance, an MUO staff member allegedly described said Miss USA and Miss Universe as "those two cannot stand to be in the same room as each other". I've always thought the Miss USA was Julie Hayek and the Miss Universe was Lorraine Downes.


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Watch the crowning moments of Miss Teen USA 1983 and Miss Teen USA 1984 and the tension between them is visible.
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Date Posted: 02:40:33 01/09/20 Thu


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Lorraine in her autobiography "life, loss, and love" confirmed this. There is a chapter dedicated for her Miss Universe journey. She said she never warmed up to Julie because she made her feel she did not deserve to win the crown. That chapter of her book is very interesting. I can screenshot the chapter if anyone would love to read her tidbits regarding her Miss Universe journey.


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Date Posted: 13:37:36 01/09/20 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: I don't think it's fair to be upset with the winner. It was the judges that made the final decision. As far as Julie, whom I love, she finished ony fifth in interview, so to me, that sealed her fate even with her SS and EG scores.


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Date Posted: 15:46:04 01/09/20 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: May you please kindly screenshot the chapter? Would love to read it, thank you!


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Samuel
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Date Posted: 21:37:16 01/09/20 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: I wonder how many other Miss USAs were resentful towards the Miss Universes that defeated them.


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There are a few years where I suspect Miss USA and Miss Universe did not get along.
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Date Posted: 16:02:35 01/11/20 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Indiaís Sushmita Sen and USA Lu Parker comes to mind


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Date Posted: 00:11:10 01/12/20 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Lu didn't make top 3 and there was no way she was winning miss Universe. How about Nia and Colombia in 2014?


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Date Posted: 09:16:48 01/12/20 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Shandi didnít huge Jen. Iím not sure if they got along or not. Iíd also be curious about when Miss USA won and how her runner up felt. I wonder if there was any resentment . I kind of got a weird vibe between Nana and Olivia.


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Date Posted: 11:47:10 01/12/20 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I'm guessing Cheryl Patton was thrilled to be Miss USA 1967. With Susan Bradley refusing to take over due to her career, Cheryl must have thought-what a chance.


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Date Posted: 18:48:05 01/12/20 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Shandi and Jennifer Hawkins did hug prior to the announcement of winner, they looked to have some very nice moments before the announcement.


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Date Posted: 15:39:13 01/13/20 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I've heard Shandi say once or twice that they were both aware of the urban legend that the contestant whose hands are on top will win, and so they were both sort of scrambling to get their hands on top. If you watch just before the announcement, you can see a bit of that battle, LOL.


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Date Posted: 21:22:11 01/13/20 Mon

I've heard Shandi say once or twice that they were both aware of the urban legend that the contestant whose hands are on top will win, and so they were both sort of scrambling to get their hands on top. If you watch just before the announcement, you can see a bit of that battle, LOL.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Shandi was 100% happy for JHawk. Olivia and Nana remain questionable. Olivia had no business winning miss universe. And Nana was a serious loser state hopper who inherited the crown and seemed to hate every minute of it.


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Date Posted: 21:58:44 01/13/20 Mon


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: After the 2nd runner-up is announced, a viewer can clearly read Shandi's lips telling Jen, "We're going to be roommates," indicating to Jen that she'll be the winner.


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Shandi is a class act.
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Date Posted: 23:05:07 01/13/20 Mon


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