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Subject: Quick Q


Author:
eloise
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Date Posted: 12:19:29 02/11/20 Tue

How much money on average does a contestant lose when they donít place.

Does she profit or break even when she wins?

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[> Subject: MUO specific pls


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eloise
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Date Posted: 12:19:50 02/11/20 Tue


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[> Subject: Funny you should mention this. Dani Walker (MT USA 2018) recently posted a video about what it cost her, out of pocket, during her reign as Miss MT and in particular leading up to the Miss USA pageant. I realize this is not exactly what you are asking, but it may help answer the question. Click in for video.


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Doot
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Date Posted: 13:28:51 02/11/20 Tue



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[> Subject: Loaded question. Financially in her reign I doubt any winner USA or MU would ever say they profited, sponsors do not outweigh costs. But ask Gal Gadot, Olivia Culpo or even Catriona what the profit was and I'm pretty sure the answer would be different! Profit is all relative, sometimes it comes from opportunity.


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Date Posted: 14:33:11 02/11/20 Tue


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[> Subject: Thanks guys. Let me babble here for a bit lol. The thing with Maureen Montagne joining and winning all those pageants to earn money just made me do a dbl take. Like it costs money to join, and possibly cost more than the monetary prize. Seems to me that all she would have earned is the experience. Did she really make a living out of all the contracts she was awarded with the crowns she won? What about the USA girls who try 4-5 times to win. That must cost a lot. And I still want to know if they wear perfume onstage.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 16:35:05 02/11/20 Tue


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[> [> Subject: Ps, I was in Daniís ballpark. I thought I would be spending at least 25k to meet my lowest standards.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 16:36:33 02/11/20 Tue

Last edited by author: Tue February 11, 2020 16:37:36   Edited 1 time.
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[> [> [> Subject: I didn't realize you competed (or are competing) in pageants! I would love to know a bit more about that, to whatever extent you feel like sharing.


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Doot
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Date Posted: 16:50:50 02/11/20 Tue

I didn't realize you competed (or are competing) in pageants! I would love to know a bit more about that, to whatever extent you feel like sharing.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Lol dear god. That last sentence should have read ďIf I were to compete in an MUO pageant, I think 25k would be my minimum blah blah.Ē Iíve never seen a pageant live.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 21:49:37 02/11/20 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: LOL, okay now it makes sense. I thought it was a bit strange that after all these years I never knew you'd done pageants!


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Doot
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Date Posted: 23:29:12 02/11/20 Tue

LOL, okay now it makes sense. I thought it was a bit strange that after all these years I never knew you'd done pageants!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: But for real, if I joined, there will be marbles rolling all over the stage during evening gown.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 21:10:49 02/12/20 Wed

Last edited by author: Wed February 12, 2020 21:11:33   Edited 1 time.
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[> [> [> Subject: I adore Dani Walker's YouTube installments. Beautiful & personable. Yet her red ballgown for Miss USA is not anything she should've worn. I've no idea what she was thinking. Perhaps she was inspired by Olivia Jordan's winning Miss USA gown.


Author:
Thoughts?
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Date Posted: 16:34:32 02/18/20 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: I really like Dani Walker as well. Yet I felt like her styling was all wrong at Miss USA. Not just the gown, but also her hair. She was sort of buried under it. It's a frequent comment of mine: for many contestants, less would be more. In Dani's case, some of this many have been beyond her control.


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Doot
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Date Posted: 16:46:09 02/18/20 Tue

I really like Dani Walker as well. Yet I felt like her styling was all wrong at Miss USA. Not just the gown, but also her hair. She was sort of buried under it. It's a frequent comment of mine: for many contestants, less would be more. In Dani's case, some of this many have been beyond her control.

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[> [> Subject: There may have been a time when competing for the $$$ made sense, like back in the 70s when they had relatively large prizes, but even then, your odds of winning and getting the "prize package" were fairly low. Hard to imagine anyone would do pageants primarily for that goal these days. (Granted, the main prize is exposure and contacts, and those can be worth a lot, but that is a whole 'nother story.)


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Doot
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Date Posted: 16:53:58 02/11/20 Tue

There may have been a time when competing for the $$$ made sense, like back in the 70s when they had relatively large prizes, but even then, your odds of winning and getting the "prize package" were fairly low. Hard to imagine anyone would do pageants primarily for that goal these days. (Granted, the main prize is exposure and contacts, and those can be worth a lot, but that is a whole 'nother story.)

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[> [> Subject: Maureen might have joined Binibining because Miss International has a winning award of 30K plus salary. Miss Supranational also has a similar financial award. Obviously competing in pageants very rarely outweighs financial investment but given the fact Philippines has an excellent track record Maureen might have calculated that going to either Intl or Supra might be more profitable... I have a hint she'll do Shamcey's pageant at the end of her pageant career. This girl loves competing, she was also Muss World America 1st runner up a few years ago..


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HawtPlusSeksi (nsi)
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Date Posted: 16:29:30 02/12/20 Wed


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[> [> [> Subject: Sheís kinda Miss Intl. Thatís actually cool she could still try for Universe even if she wins Intl.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 21:14:36 02/12/20 Wed

Last edited by author: Wed February 12, 2020 21:15:44   Edited 1 time.
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[> Subject: Price to compete


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Sigh
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Date Posted: 21:41:56 02/12/20 Wed

I don't really know how you put a price on expenditures. You work hard to win, and the prize package ends up not what it seems to be. Gown was sponsored, so that was a HUGE relief, however, sponsored means it's a Sherri, and not that I'm ungrateful, just had a dream gown in mind for so many years in the hopes that I'd cross that stage, but that is not what I wore. In fact, I have a drawing that I did before I even won a state teen USA pageant :) With travel, airline tickets, time, appearances etc, the cost adds quickly (because you certainly can't wear the same outfit twice during your reign LOL) Additionally, I took out a $12,000 loan just to get everything I needed for Miss USA! I'm not complaining, and I didn't win...didn't even place...but I'd do it all again! I crossed the Miss USA stage!

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[> [> Subject: The competition dress (and how many) is the first thing I would think and dream about.


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Date Posted: 13:54:49 02/13/20 Thu


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[> Subject: Texas cost at least 8g-10g to compete. the dresses alone are courture, And these girls get trying year after year


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You go in a prom dress at Texas. EVERYONE knows. its that obvi
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Date Posted: 13:30:54 02/13/20 Thu


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[> [> Subject: I was expecting that youíd be spending a lot more in TX. 8-10k seems reasonable. Itís still a lot of money esp if they compete over and over until they win or time runs out.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 13:57:35 02/13/20 Thu

Last edited by author: Thu February 13, 2020 13:58:38   Edited 1 time.
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[> [> [> Subject: Is that per year for the state pageant? That is a lot of money year after year to not ever get the win.


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Lola
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Date Posted: 06:09:47 02/14/20 Fri


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