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Subject: See, this is where pageants have it all wrong. Whats the deal with having a baby at 18 or getting divorced at 25? We dont know the dynamics behind those life stories. Yes, beauty queens are role models in like say, India or the Philippines. Most countries don't really care about them though. And I think the backlash is not letting women from all backgrounds compete. I find a really huge contradiction that pageants would let transgender women compete but not a woman who has been divorced or widowed or even married. It is the biggest oxymoron ever. And you know... the former Victoria's Secret Angels (now that VS is broke) who were even bigger role models than pageant queens, are all mothers, married, that didn't interfere with their job. I think thats the point here. The criteria for eligibility is obsolete.


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Date Posted: 10:37:59 05/10/20 Sun
In reply to: Alyssa’s Pinoy Fan 's message, "Probably true in the US. But for most countries, getting pregnant at 17 and divorced at 25 is not normal. Beauty queens are seen as role models and there’d be a backlash if an 18-yr old mom or a 25yr old divorcee gets to compete to become a “role model for young girls”." on 03:30:53 05/10/20 Sun


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: As what I’ve said, your thinking is not shared by the majority of the world. Parents don’t want their daughters looking up to another girl who got pregnant at a very young age. There’s a place for those girls if they really have inspiring or success stories. They can do speeches like TED talks. If they can’t speak, they can join reality TV’s where networks could exploit their stories. Pageant girls are seen in most countries as conservative and with “good moral characters”. And being pregnant before marriage more so as a teen definitely doesn’t fit that criteria. These are no big deal in the US, but not in most countries.


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Date Posted: 11:11:02 05/10/20 Sun

As what I’ve said, your thinking is not shared by the majority of the world. Parents don’t want their daughters looking up to another girl who got pregnant at a very young age. There’s a place for those girls if they really have inspiring or success stories. They can do speeches like TED talks. If they can’t speak, they can join reality TV’s where networks could exploit their stories. Pageant girls are seen in most countries as conservative and with “good moral characters”. And being pregnant before marriage more so as a teen definitely doesn’t fit that criteria. These are no big deal in the US, but not in most countries.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: This is an important and interesting debate to have. For example, these days, why must a pageant titleholder be single? I mean, even the most conservative people would probably agree that a woman can be married at, say, 24 and be a perfectly good "role model." I don't pretend to have any of the answers, but these kinds of issues are one reason why the way forward is going to be so tricky for pageants.


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Date Posted: 13:24:50 05/10/20 Sun

This is an important and interesting debate to have. For example, these days, why must a pageant titleholder be single? I mean, even the most conservative people would probably agree that a woman can be married at, say, 24 and be a perfectly good "role model." I don't pretend to have any of the answers, but these kinds of issues are one reason why the way forward is going to be so tricky for pageants.

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