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Subject: Oooooh, ok. Here goes: The one who recently really bugged me the most was Thailand 2019, GORGEOUS but really irritating. Now, the rest: The Daltons, Chelsea Cooley, Cynthia Oliveira (again, gorgeous but seemed really mean), Riyo Mori, Morgan Woolard, Nana Merriweather, Amy Willerton, Tiana Griggs, Migbelis Castillanos, Anna Garcia, Brittany McGowan, Pia Wurtzbach (masterclass in patty but she seems nice so I want to like her), Ariana Miyamoto (super hyped), Laura Gonzales, Genesis Davila (ugh ugh ugh), Tianna Tuamoheloa. I realize some may not have found them hyped so maybe this is more about reps I didnít like. There are others that I thought were over hyped but imo were deserving, ex. Shandi & Catriona. As well, I agree about OK winners, except Lindsay Hill. I loved her.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 11:26:06 05/22/20 Fri
In reply to: Sammy 's message, "Who are pageant contestants and winners (since 2000) that you find overhyped?" on 10:17:03 05/22/20 Fri

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[> [> Subject: More, I prefer the girls who quietly competed, placed well, and received the hype they deserved after the pageant. I love those and Iíd like to see a post asking fans who they thought deserved more hype than they received. Iíd put Davina Bennet, Colombia 2019, and Mexico 2019 on that list.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 12:01:14 05/22/20 Fri

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[> [> [> Subject: Absolutely to those you listed above. In more recent years, I also thought Chhavi Verg (MISS NJ USA 17) deserved more hype and didn't get it. She was very pretty and I think really stood out that year. I remembered how shocked people were on this board when she continued advancing but I knew she would go far.


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Date Posted: 12:29:21 05/22/20 Fri


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[> [> [> [> Subject: Yes!!! I wasnít around on USB nor the FB group at the time so I did not know if and how she was hyped (and I forgot about her lol). Chhavi was magic.


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eloise
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Date Posted: 12:52:26 05/22/20 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: I really wish she had won actually!! I wasnít crazy about her walks, but that is forgivable to me, and I think she could have cracked the final 5 internationally.


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Pixie
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Date Posted: 17:37:32 05/23/20 Sat


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[> [> Subject: I agree with all. Thailand 2019 I feel played the blind eye route attention and it worked because she got the publicity. She was in regardless. My larger issue of hate towards Indonesia, Philippines, and Thailand is that the overwhelming majority of the their reps are mixed white.


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Original Rican
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Date Posted: 14:33:46 05/22/20 Fri


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[> [> [> Subject: I dont get why we as pageant fans feel this way about Asian delegates of mixed race yet get excited when Europeans send their own mixed race delegates. Why is that?


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eloise
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Date Posted: 15:25:50 05/22/20 Fri

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[> [> [> [> Subject: That is a good point. But I don't get excited about mixed race girls in general. Now if I was straight, I would be in love with them. But you are right I feel like African and Europe is always supported but Asia is not. I think a good theory is that at least with European and African, their mixed race girls faired pretty good. Asian countries especially Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia have consistently sent mixed race and placing. Whereas prior, they rarely made the cut.


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Original Rican
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Date Posted: 17:40:14 05/22/20 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: I think it comes down to percentage of biracial people in these countries. They are a very small percentage and de facto are not representative of their countries (Southeast Asia). There is almost always a similar scenario, a white father who is usually significantly older than the mother and they are often rich. A colonial mentality persists in that the ideal is to be as white as possible and this is the key to success. As half White people are orten gloryfied. As example 3 of Filipina MW and MU winners last decade had mich older fathers.


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Date Posted: 21:09:18 05/22/20 Fri


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They all won though, so did the international judges saw their white heritage as an advantage? Or did their being mixed raced made them more universal because they grew up exposed to two cultures? And why are critical when the other half is white but we celebrate when itís not?


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Alyssaís Pinoy Fan
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Date Posted: 03:40:11 05/26/20 Tue

They all won though, so did the international judges saw their white heritage as an advantage? Or did their being mixed raced made them more universal because they grew up exposed to two cultures? And why are critical when the other half is white but we celebrate when itís not?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I think the answer below is spot on. It is unfortunate that whatever is white is still worshipped in a bit if a colonial way in the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand, which was never a colony. Amazing girls that are full blooded South-East Asians lose opportunities to half white girls who often grew up in another country. No one would care if it happens once a decade, but it happens there all the time.


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Date Posted: 13:37:06 05/26/20 Tue


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[> [> [> [> Subject: What disturbs me is how the asian fans WORSHIP these mixed-race women, while at the same time rejecting their own. This doesnt happen only in pageants. If you see TV, print ads, fashion, etc. in Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, etc, its all about the mixed ones. I loved Paweensuda Drouin but I was bummed by the fact that she is not even Thai, she cant speak Thai, she is CANADIAN and did not even speak Thai in her national pageant's q/a round, yet she STILL won (but Catriona was a judge and they are friends) and the fans were going berserk, IDK, in my country we support girls who have our blood and not coming from abroad just for a beauty title.


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Date Posted: 02:36:25 05/26/20 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Paweedunda does not even speak Thai? Oy vey!!


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HawtPlusSeksi (nsi)
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Date Posted: 13:40:42 05/26/20 Tue


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: She does speak Thai. In fact I think her Thai is actually better than Maria from ( Thailand '16 ( whom Farsai was a runner up to)) and Porntip


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Date Posted: 00:36:13 05/27/20 Wed

Just saying

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: And I think it is enough. It does not have to be her first language but representing a country without speaking its main and by far the most used language would be something... alarming!


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Date Posted: 01:06:32 05/30/20 Sat


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I absolutely agree. I think not being able to speak Thai at all is a handicap. Tamaryn Green's ( South African '18) her first runner up is competing in Thailand but sitting out this year so she can learn more of the language. Look for her to be a huge favorite during the Thailand's 2021 pageant season


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Date Posted: 07:22:07 05/30/20 Sat

Just saying

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