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| Subject: weather for sat .race ?????????????? | |
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Author: spec [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:13:20 03/12/09 Thu anyone in dallas know what the weathers going to be and are they still on for sat night racing ? |
| [> Subject: Re: weather for sat .race ?????????????? | |
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Author: mike [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:50:19 03/12/09 Thu cold and wet |
| Subject: Here are my Adrl Pics at Houston Raceway Park | |
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Author: 10.5 fan [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:26:40 03/11/09 Wed http://photos.streetfire.net/album/ADRL-2009-HRP_1629917.htm |
| Subject: Check out my interview tonight on www.81rocks.com , the show should start about 8;15 | |
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Author: Rodney Whatley [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:26:50 03/11/09 Wed I will be talking about our upcoming season. schedule ,payouts, and the our second chances race. |
| [> Subject: Rodney don't know where he is but we think he is going to be here. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 14:10:02 03/11/09 Wed www.http://81xrocks.com/ click on all night entertainment. If that don't work call David (lol) Rodney's 12 year is still at school so he need help. Sorry Rodney, I couldn't risist. Say lots of good things about OTTA. We are banking on you. |
| Subject: Allrite This is the week. OTTA Guys, who is going? | |
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Author: Don Dick [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:37:39 03/10/09 Tue If a poor guy like me can go, so can you. Lets go racing. |
| [> Subject: Don this might be your big win, thanks for supporting OTTA... Glad to here from you. See you in Denton Saturday. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:01:04 03/08/09 Sun Who else is out there...... |
| [> [> Subject: Re: Don this might be your big win, thanks for supporting OTTA... Glad to here from you. See you in Denton Saturday. | |
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Author: Chad Revia [Edit] |
Date Posted: 04:14:06 03/09/09 Mon Team Virus will be there. Never been to Denton, looking forward to it! |
| [> [> [> Subject: Headed to Denton this weekend | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:38:59 03/09/09 Mon Don Chad Kyle Themo Cip Thanks guys for steping up and supporting OTTA. |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Headed to Denton this weekend | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:36:13 03/09/09 Mon Don Chad Kyle Themo Chip Thanks guys for steping up and supporting OTTA. |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Rob call, he's waiting on a transmission, but thinks he will be ready. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:06:27 03/09/09 Mon |
| [> Subject: Re: Allrite This is the week. OTTA Guys, who is going? | |
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Author: Justin Harvey (W.F.O Racing) [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:48:02 03/09/09 Mon W.F.O Racing will be there with BLACK BETTY ( Black 69 Camaro). Weve done a little testing over the winter so we are a little more prepared this year. |
| [> [> Subject: Welcome Justin, we are looking forward to seeing you. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:37:39 03/10/09 Tue |
| Subject: OTTA's first race of the Season at North Star March 14th | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 23:13:06 03/08/09 Sun Who all is planning to go to North Star March 14, 2009 fpr the first race of the season? |
| [> Subject: I will be there, Who else is going to represent the Dallas metro plex? | |
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Author: Rodney [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:46:13 03/01/09 Sun > |
| [> [> Subject: Come on racers, I need to know who is going to Denton March 14, 2009. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 14:34:24 03/03/09 Tue Are we going to have a field to represent OTTA? ![]() ![]() |
| [> [> [> Subject: Remember Gates don't open till 6:00 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:20:33 03/03/09 Tue This is a one evening race. |
| [> [> Subject: Re: I will be there, Who else is going to represent the Dallas metro plex? | |
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Author: virus racing [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:19:15 03/04/09 Wed >> WERE GOING TO TEST SOME MORE THIS WEEKEND BUT PLAN ON BEING THERE.DONT KNOW IF WILL BE READY BUT WE WILL BE THERE DONATING AND SUPPORTING OTTA. |
| [> [> [> Subject: Re: I will be there, Who else is going to represent the Dallas metro plex? | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:50:49 03/04/09 Wed Thanks Virus good to hear from you. I hope you tested out ok last weekend. I left early Sunday because I was just so cold... (I know - dumb reason to leave a track), anyway the last pass I saw you make looked good. We need all the support we can get for this first race, many of our members are still down from the winter and waiting on parts and a couple broke last weekend, so the Houston support is going to be lite. I really need at least 8 cars from Houston and we have 5 confirmed and 10 still downs waiting on parts, come on guys I need at least 3 more cars. It is early in the season, but we need to keep the track happy... This one is on the track which is what we worked so hard to make happen last season. We can't stop now. After this one will will have almost a month to get more cars completed for the season... I really need your support here. |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Who else is going to represent OTTA at the Dallas metro plex? | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 12:33:15 03/05/09 Thu I just talked to Kenjo Kelley our “2008 OTTA Champion”, he said that the track in Denton is kind of far from him to travel but if there is anyone out there that would like to chip in a few bucks for some fuel money, he has plenty of space on his car to advertise then he would be happy to go up there and make sure that that the Trophy/win makes its way back to Houston. Kenjo ran a 4.64 and back to back to back 4.66 pass’s at Baytown last weekend testing so if anybody wants to do some advertising on Kenjo’ s car he can be reached at 979-709-7279 or you can email him at vfskk@aol.com. |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Who else is going to represent OTTA at the Dallas metro plex? | |
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Author: tired of kenjo greed [Edit] |
Date Posted: 22:11:30 03/07/09 Sat May be he could hock his championship ring or collect cans at hrp tonight to get gas money!He started the shit about money last year and has allready started this year!If you are the Champion start acting like it!STOP crying!!!!or leave.No one will miss YOU!!!! |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Instead of Cup Cakes , he needs some cheese to go with that whine (lol). | |
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Author: Little Johnny [Edit] |
Date Posted: 23:13:06 03/08/09 Sun |
| Subject: well, Bonnie since you deleted my post, i guess you are only for the racers if it benefits you, huh. I ask if anyone was going to run in the txdrl since the purse was now posted. since this is where the true tens racers hang out, this seems like an appropriate question. | |
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Author: stop the bs [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:39:34 03/06/09 Fri |
| [> Subject: We are not promoteing "No Name" slannder. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:39:51 03/04/09 Wed Shit starting post by no namers will get deleted. That post was going bad fast. Nuff Said! |
| [> Subject: Re: well, Bonnie since you deleted my post, i guess you are only for the racers if it benefits you, huh. I ask if anyone was going to run in the txdrl since the purse was now posted. since this is where the true tens racers hang out, this seems like an appropriate question. | |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:44:34 03/04/09 Wed I TOLD HER TO ERASE THAT MESS. DON'T WANT TO READ ABOUT WHAT A HOOKER I AM TOMORROW FOR PROMOTING JOE BASHING. GOT SOMETHING TO SAY SIGN YOUR NAME. IF NOT I AM SURE THE OTHER BOARD IS LOOKING FOR SOME EXCITMENT.... |
| [> [> Subject: Hahaha That's a Good one Traci ;) Too funny =) Hell,, Girl you aint got shit on me,, If I tell the truth I get Banned from work.. Hahaha Thank god I got my shit together at home. =) I aint been called a hooker though !!!! =) lol lol lol lol | |
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Author: The Duck [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:13:19 03/05/09 Thu |
| [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hahaha That's a Good one Traci ;) Too funny =) Hell,, Girl you aint got shit on me,, If I tell the truth I get Banned from work.. Hahaha Thank god I got my shit together at home. =) I aint been called a hooker though !!!! =) lol lol lol lol | |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:27:42 03/05/09 Thu Love it... Can't win for losin can we? Oh well all in fun. We are going to miss you Kenjo in Dallas. But I'll text you with updates. Looking for that 4.60 pass from Kyle or The Virus Crew. I think they sold cans and had a Car Wash to get there gas money to travel. You quys need to get orginal like them. That is what I call Otta support!!!!! Maybe yall can have bake sell let me know I will be happy to donate some cupcakes. LOL |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hahaha That's a Good one Traci ;) Too funny =) Hell,, Girl you aint got shit on me,, If I tell the truth I get Banned from work.. Hahaha Thank god I got my shit together at home. =) I aint been called a hooker though !!!! =) lol lol lol lol | |
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Author: Chad Revia [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:39:34 03/06/09 Fri LOL Tracie... We will get there. Just taking a little longer than expected. We are renting the track again the Friday before Denton. Hope to have it sorted out by then. Between grimlins and just a bunch of new stuff, we are slowly working through them. I have logged some decent 60fts as well as 330's though... We're not too worried about running 60's, just trying to be consistant. |
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Author: In the Know and in the Loop [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:06:39 03/04/09 Wed Spec tator.. Here is something for you to ponder on! Last year Joe shit on you guys saying that you did not bring in a big enough crowd to pay a purse and he baically also said that you guys were too BORING for the spectaors as well!!!! So with that said; would you go back and be a part of his races just because he is doing a payout? He has shit on you guys and spit you out more than once, but it never fails he will start sucking up on somebodys nuts and try to get on your good sides, but you know as well as most of the racers know that he will shit on you again AND he will place the blame on you saying; again that you are not pulling in the crowd and then probably end up cutting your purse again, or else he will just loose car count and again blame it on YOU!!! Now with that said; Do you really want to go to his races?! |
| [> Subject: Hey Spec-tator, Looks like you might win the race if you show up cause I know a lot of Ten'ers that aint gonna show. And don't start saying that this Board, Bonnie or Traci are the ones that need to ((STOP THE BS)) as you signed your name on the earlier post... Look the other direction and see how many times TT5 got shit on by your hero! What I am seeing here is that you must either like being shit on or else you like the nut huggin that brings you back?! Who knows what floats your boat, but all I gotta say is that it looks as if you are going to be the only sailer sailing the Golden Seas. and BYW When you get over there, let us know how the *SHRIMPING* was. haha | |
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Author: In the know and in the Loop [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:24:36 03/05/09 Thu |
| [> [> Subject: hey bs stopper you should go on joes board and ask how many otta racers are going to denton next week. | |
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Author: if you get banned you will be in the know [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:49:30 03/05/09 Thu |
| [> [> [> Subject: Look, i asked a ssimple question originally because I live in Houston and I WAS hoping to see you all run this year. With the economy, I cant afford to drive to Evadale and damn sure cant afford Dallas. My second post was because I never got to see a reply to the first. As a spectator, I dont care about all BS, i just wanted to see you all race but after all this hatred, you have now lost another fan. I wont be going to any of your races. No wonder you cant get an OTTA race in Houston. Good Bye. | |
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Author: spec-tater [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:45:19 03/05/09 Thu |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Good Bye. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 19:57:32 03/05/09 Thu The first I offered phone numbers. NOT GOOD ENOUGH The Second time I deleted it. NOT GOOD ENOUGH The Third time I stayed out of it. NOT GOOD ENOUGH And you signed you name how? --- Stop the bs. |
| Subject: Please join me in welcoming our first Points sponsor for OTTA. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:41:17 03/04/09 Wed ![]() By Bonnie_Webb |
| [> Subject: Opps. The sponsor is Rodney Whatley... sorry Rodney | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:02:43 03/05/09 Thu |
| Subject: Frank “Turk” Webb Extreme 10.5 car | |
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Author: Nitrovid [Edit] |
Date Posted: 03:54:25 03/04/09 Wed Frank “Turk” Webb Extreme 10.5 car for the first time this past weekend for testing Feb 2009 |
| [> Subject: Is that the old Tweaked 2 chassi? | |
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Author: Ben...again [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:38:12 03/04/09 Wed If so...it sure is nice to see it out and going down the track again! |
| Subject: Wheel stand going left then right and missing the T tops 2-28-09 HRP | |
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Author: Nitrovid [Edit] |
Date Posted: 04:15:57 03/03/09 Tue Wheel stand going left then right and missing the T tops 2-28-09 HRP |
| Subject: Wheelstand Black LX first hit with a turbo on it! 2-28-09 HRP Eric Stubbs aka 747 Stubbs Racing | |
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Author: Nitrovid [Edit] |
Date Posted: 04:11:24 03/03/09 Tue Wheelstand Black LX first hit with a turbo on it! 2-28-09 HRP Eric Stubbs aka 747 Stubbs Racing |
| Subject: Baytown this weekend | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:30:49 03/02/09 Mon I just got home from the Baytown test session this weekend. This was the first time I been to track and got to visit instead of work… It was good to see the guys getting ready for the 2009 season. Kenjo ran a 4.64 last night and 2 different 4.66 passes today. Chad was testing without wheelie bars, had some transmission issues but the last pass I saw was a pretty good one. Richard with Strickly Proformance was running pretty good. Calhoun made a killer pass, Rob and Themo were out yesterday saw quite a few of the others, Justin, Sandlin, out there but I did not see their cars run. Good luck to all of you and I am getting excited about the 2009 season. |
| [> Subject: Re: Baytown this weekend | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:01:34 03/01/09 Sun I asked Kenjo how the 4.64 pass felt, he said I only do what I gotta do (lol)! Good luck Kenjo... I only saw a few full passes this weekend, most of the cars had to abort for one reason or another and Kenjo went staight down the center every pass. Very impressive Kenjo.. |
| [> [> Subject: Re: Baytown this weekend | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:30:49 03/02/09 Mon Here is a copy of Kenjo's pass from last weekend at Baytown. I think his pass made a statement in itself. ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: Hes waitin on you OTTA boyz | |
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Author: David [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:42:52 03/02/09 Mon ![]() ![]() |
| [> Subject: hE NEEDS TO PUT SOME DAMN RACING GLOVES ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Author: Henry =) hehehe [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:27:51 02/27/09 Fri |
| [> [> Subject: Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:12:36 02/27/09 Fri The car looks great and it was very nice to chat with you tonight.. Sounds like testing when well and we will see you in Dallas next month. Please welcome our newest OTTA member! See you at the races, Bonnie |
| [> [> [> Subject: Who is this | |
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Author: OTTA fan [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:42:52 03/02/09 Mon For those of you who do not know this car belongs to Rodney Watley in Dallas. |
| Subject: OTTA will be running with the ProMods in Denton March 14, 2009 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 12:07:15 03/02/09 Mon ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: WHERE IS THE RACING SPIRIT | |
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Author: GOOGLE MAN [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:43:37 03/02/09 Mon DONDE? WHERE? Is the OTTA & Ultimate Street spirit, I heard thru the grapevine, that the OTTA guys were still arguing about the wheelie bars, Looks as that you all have more than a wheelie problem, where is the car count. Who's coming out to play this year? Down below, OSCAR is having problems to getting the Outlaw 10.5 cars out, I wonder why, are they a dying breed thats about to come. They now have a chance to back down and run with slower guys with a little of changes. Strap on some 29.5 non w's and make the weight and let her rip. Back to the wheelie bars. I think you need to let those guys run what you brung to help make the car count, and keep the breakage down. To my concern this will never slow them guys down to make them competitive to the slower guys and breakage with these many races will hurt the class all round, with this bad economy, you will not see a fast return. I do want to tell one of the guys on here something, Red TAZ I really think you are fighting a hard battle about wheelie bars and what ever, that combo will never be competitve with the turbo and big block nitrous cars. Tell you what you got a few more weeks to be in competition. Take all the weigh out that you can and show the world that you can run 4.60 anything. Someone has said that you have nevered been satisfied since the Clash Of Titans. The biggest crybaby of them all. Have you notice no one has not gotten on your bandwagon to cry with you, really think you are by yourself. Been talking of splitting the class up, we don't even know how many is coming to race at the first race just yet. Is this economy hurting a lot of us. I would think that the girls have found all the races, but no one has step up to say they are supporting all the races. Do you guys want all those races or not. The poor guys in Ultimate street, I see there is a little noise, but no activity. I see there are 7 committee members and a hand few, that are talking about racing, but no show of hands. Probably running Coach half nuts to if he is going to have his head count this year. After struggling all last year. They got the website up and running, but no one isn't saying anything but Coach, I bet he will get tired of begging to get the guys out. But Ultimate Street has really step up with there game. They do now have some other sanctions to join there racing series, TTT5 up North in Dallas. I really think that the Ultimate Street & TTT5 will be the next biggest class of the future we hear no bickering going on there. With speeds @ 5.14 on one kit, that is amazing. There is some limited guys with 3 kits and sheetmetal manifolds, at less weight, and backhalfs, can't even run those numbers. I think those guys need to start a index class, because they can't back down to the slower class. Really to tell you those guys are just contributing to the cause of a car count. The U/S & TTT5 - that class of guys has really done there homework on making a stock body car on stock suspension and maybe ladderbars, do those kind of numbers on the board. If I was the girls I would drop all the crybabies and support the Utimate Street and TTT5 class, they do have there rules and act together. Up North, TTT5 Extreme is the show, having a multiple of races with no drop outs. Just my .05 cents I hope you guys don't cuss this, I really think the OTTA guys need to strap on a set of drag Radials, and this will really make it interesting for 3/4 of the year or season. And stop worrying about wheelie bars. I bet this will bring a string of cars out of the woodwork all over the world. Dang, DRAG RADIALS, TALK ABOUT THAT. I really believe this will even the field up for a while. A new game for every one. this will also cut back on tire expenses. A whole new tuning program for every one. NO SLICK ALLOWED. Drag Radial is a growing class across the world. .15 cents and some change. |
| [> Subject: Re: WHERE IS THE RACING SPIRIT | |
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Author: Coach @ Ultimate Street (No excuses here.) [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:15:49 02/27/09 Fri Thanks GM who ever you are, for the kudos. You are right I haven't seen any spirit from the guys this starting season. Can't pull any hair out, because I keep it short and the shop is keeping me alive. My famous word here in Houston is where is my Houston racers that can race the U/S class, the season is about to start, and everyone is hiding, maybe the economy is hurting that they can't even turn on there computers anymore. A yea or nee is acceptable. If you are not ready yet please respond anyway. The rest of the guys would love to here from ya. Holy crap, Drag Radials in the OTTA upper class. That would be interesting. Or will it bring out some more crybabies. I guess they will cuss me too, I really think that would be the best move for the that class. Tires and tune-ups will be the main factor for a while. Kyle, Justin, Kenjo, Chad Revia, How do you guys feel about Drag Radials and the rest of the gang.????? Bouncing front suspension up and down the track, because of no bars will tear up cars and hurt your car count. But those drag radial tires will not. I think this will be the best thing since beer was brewed we use to drink it hot. Now its got to be ice cold. |
| [> [> Subject: Re: WHERE IS THE RACING SPIRIT | |
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Author: madman [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:20:32 03/02/09 Mon The radials are fine with us. We plan on making as many races as possible when our car owner/driver is back from Iraq. Our car only runs radials. |
| [> [> [> Subject: Madman... Nick may be a bit delayed since it's the start of crawfish season! ;) | |
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Author: Ben...again [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:43:37 03/02/09 Mon as for U/S....I sure hope it takes off! I've been working on my sled trying to get ready. |
| Subject: Points for 2008 ideas. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:52:35 02/27/09 Fri I put this out there with not reaponse .... Lets try this. We have 14 races 7 here 7 there. What if we pick 10 races of our choice and drop 4. That means you would attend 10 of the races of your choice and get the bonus. Come on RACERS... I need to know what your thougts are. I am not trying to control this, I am trying to have some type of happy mix. I need your input please! I know that you can not attend all 14 races, please give me your thoughts ________________________________________ Points for 2009 OTTA -- Bonnie, 09:35:33 02/18/09 Wed [1] The schedule has been realeased for the 2009 season and will be working on the points system over the next week. We are thinking: Double points at two Dallas area Races and Double Points at two Houston Area races and the racers can drop two races. We understand that not all racers can travel to all the events but we would like everyone to attend as many as they can. This will be a busy race season but I think it will be a lot of fun. See you at the races. |
| [> Subject: Keep it simple. 1 point for qualifying, 2 for going to the 2nd round, 3 for going to the 3rd round and ect. The winner gets 1 more point than the runner up. | |
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Author: Dave [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:48:11 02/28/09 Sat >I put this out there with not reaponse .... > >Lets try this. > >We have 14 races 7 here 7 there. What if we pick 10 >races of our choice and drop 4. That means you would >attend 10 of the races of your choice and get the >bonus. > >Come on RACERS... I need to know what your thougts >are. I am not trying to control this, I am trying to >have some type of happy mix. I need your input please! > >I know that you can not attend all 14 races, please >give me your thoughts > >________________________________________ > >Points for 2009 OTTA -- Bonnie, 09:35:33 02/18/09 Wed >[1] > >The schedule has been realeased for the 2009 season >and will be working on the points system over the next >week. > >We are thinking: > >Double points at two Dallas area Races and Double >Points at two Houston Area races and the racers can >drop two races. We understand that not all racers can >travel to all the events but we would like everyone to >attend as many as they can. This will be a busy race >season but I think it will be a lot of fun. > >See you at the races. |
| Subject: Members Registration for 2009 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:55:33 02/27/09 Fri ![]() ![]() http://www.houstonoutlawracing.com/Registration.aspx |
| [> Subject: Revia tested Friday: Shows alot of promise | |
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Author: crew [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:51:41 02/22/09 Sun > > > > >href="http://imageshack.us"> >164y5uhxs.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by >ImageShack.us"/> >href="http://g.imageshack.us/img502/arpm280094164y5uhxs >.jpg/1/"> >uhxs.jpg/1/w240.png" border="0"> >Texas "has" gone wild in Outlaw True 10 and I am >excited to be a part of it. > >Our currect Record holder in OTTA is Kyle Huettel > >Kyle Huettel is our current record holder in OTTA with >a 4.71 backed up with a 4.73 > >Kenjo Kelly currently has a 4.67 @ 163.76 pending to >be backed up in OTTA > >Justin Curry set record in Clash of the Titan with a >4.67 @168, backed up with 4.68 and another 4.68 > >Rob Valden has been out testing for this season, last >night at HMP he ran 4.67 @ 165 backed up with a 4.67, >4.68, 4.68 > >I don’t know what this season is going to bring but I >think it is going to be exciting. If we get a few more >hitting these kinds of numbers we may have to find a >way to spilt the field…. > >I would like to hear what your predictions are for >next season…. Do you think we will see any 4.50’s, if >so who do you think will do it? |
| [> [> Subject: Re: Revia tested Friday: Shows alot of promise | |
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Author: Glad to see he's back [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:55:41 02/22/09 Sun Revia came out strong last year and suffered some major issues near the end of the season. My guess is that he will be on that "look out here we come list" (lol). What kind of numbers did he run? |
| [> [> [> Subject: Herd Revia got in the 70's testing with the new set up | |
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Author: Is this true [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:35:54 02/22/09 Sun |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Herd Revia got in the 70's testing with the new set up | |
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Author: NOTTTTTTTTTTT [Edit] |
Date Posted: 19:01:35 02/22/09 Sun NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT |
| [> [> Subject: Re: Revia tested Friday: Shows alot of promise | |
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Author: Klint Aka Red Tazz [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:02:11 02/22/09 Sun My prediction is that all the turbo cars are going to be untouchable and all of us Nitrous babies will look for a new place to race where we might be able to be commpetitive with out having to go to the dark side. I am not trying to start anything just giving the feed back you requested. I know that even wth the weight breaks there is not a N2 car out there that can run with these turbo cars. Back when I was fan following the races it bacame boring when the same cars repetedly won and I watched the same two or three cars in the final rounds race after race. Bonnie how many cars would it take in each class to in order to have a Nitrous class and a turbo class insread of haveing the 2nd chance race? This moght actually bring more crs out of the wood works which could mean more spectators. Some of the N2 cars I have talked to like my self are not interested in racing for 2nd place. Could also run the procharged cars with the N2 seeing as they are also slow when compared to the Turbo cars. What do you think Brian? (LOL) Oh heres a thought have the tubo cars take the bars off when they are next to a N2 car. |
| [> [> [> Subject: Re: Revia tested Friday: Shows alot of promise | |
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Author: BLACKSUNSHINE RACING -BRUCE [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:23:04 02/23/09 Mon I WILL PROMISE THEIR WILL BE NITROUS CARS IN THE 4.60s. IF YOU CREATE AN ALL NITROUS CLASS THERE WILL BE 2 OR 3 CARS THAT WILL DOMINATE THAT CLASS AS WELL. I, FOR ONE, DONT AGREE WITH TRYING TO MAKE THE TURBO CARS SLOWER. HELL, THEY SPENT THE MONEY TO RUN THEIR COMBO JUST AS WE DID. WE PICKED NITROUS, NOW LETS MAKE THE BEST OF IT, OR BUY SOME TURBOS. I CAN SEE THIS YEAR WITH HALF THE FIELD BEING SUB 4.80s, AND 16 CARS AT SUB 5.00s. WHAT COULD BE BETTER? YOU CAN'T CREATE A CLASS FOR EVERY CAR. THIS IS A HEADS UP CLASS THAT WE ALL LOVE TO RUN. THE FINALS LAST YEAR WERE TWO NITROUS CARS AND NOW THAT ROB HAS RUN GOOD IN TESTING SOME OF THE NITROUS CARS WANT SOMETHING. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, BUY SOME TURBOS OR RUN THE 5.00 S@S CLASS OR STEP UP. IT'S ALL JUST FUN FOR US AND WE PLAN ON HAVING SOME OF THAT THIS YEAR. THE FASTEST CAR DOES NOT ALWAYS WIN. JUST MY 2 CENTS! |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 12:27:40 02/23/09 Mon Thanks Klint for your response but I think BlackSunshine Racing has a very valid point, so we should recap for a minute. ![]() ![]() OTTA 2008 Winners Kyle Huettel – Nitrous Jimmy Gardner – Nitrous Justin Curry – Nitrous Keith Szabo – Nitrous and No Bars Kenjo Kelly – Turbo’s Remember, these numbers did not start coming out until next to the last race of the season which is why we immediately put up the 2nd chance race money up at the last event. I don’t think taking the bars off would help the situation at all, and I don’t think Turbo vs Nitrous is the correct answer. #1 We take a chance on breaking cars, is that the answer that we want? NO, I think not. if we break cars, we lose cars, which means a reduction of cars counts. #2 Ten years ago I may have agreed that the bars would slow cars down but with today’s technology, after a few passes these guys will down load the data on the cars, make adjustments and be right back where they started. #3 It is a safety factor and I am not willing to stand on that starting line and wonder if it was my decision that caused someone to destroy their car or get hurt or hurt someone else. I truly believe that splitting the field is the best option but until we see what members we have we can’t do that. We have no clue at this point what the best type of split would be. We don't know who has done what over the winter with the exception of a couple of cars that we have seen out testing. As of today, I know of about 5 cars running these kind of numbers and “rumors” of a few more. If we can get a 7or 8 car field of these type of numbers then we can look at splitting the field.. (I predict that will happen). The 2nd chance race was put up as a STARTING point. We are not trying to lose racers we are trying to gain them. We don’t want to hold racers back, we want them to be all they can be and we do not want any of the cars that support the organization to lose interest. We are trying our best to keep “EVERYONE” happy and that my friend is a very hard thing to do, but we are trying. We want this to be the strongest organization out there and we want everyone to have a good time racing again, isn’t that truly what it is all about? We had to start somewhere and we started with the 2nd chance race. Tracy and I have always tried to address issues as soon as we see them popping up and not waiting on everyone to start complaining before doing something about it, so remember we are trying to help not hurt. We (OTTA) also took on the Dallas members for the coming up season. We don’t know what that is going to bring to the class yet, most of the big numbers came out once the OTTA season was over (i.e Clash of the Titans or Out testing for the new season). We have to wait and see what OTTA has… We only saw one car run one pass in the 4.60 range in OTTA and that number is pending being backed up in OTTA with OTTA rules. Honestly we do not know what weight or anything else these cars were running when racing in another organization or out testing. We can’t jump the gun here. We have to deal with it in OTTA, with OTTA rules at an actual OTTA event. You should "NOT" be afraid of the unknown you should be excited about it. Thanks for your input. |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: thanks for the comments but we haven't been in the 70's yet. We did go a 4.82. Hopefully soon. I don't think splitting the class is a good idea right now. I have said and still say that nitrous cars are better than turbos in the heat. Most of our season is ran in the heat. I think that Jimmy and Cindy are gonna be the team to watch this season. Also, as bad as I hate to admit it, blowers are a good combo in hot conditions so Lamar and Sandlin are gonna be tough this year. (that took alot out of me..lol) This should be a great season for OTTA. | |
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Author: Chad Revia [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:14:00 02/23/09 Mon > >Thanks Klint for your response but I think >BlackSunshine Racing has a very valid point, so we >should recap for a minute. > > >href="http://imageshack.us"> >ons2008.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by >ImageShack.us"/> >href="http://g.imageshack.us/img510/ottachampions2008.j >pg/1/"> >08.jpg/1/w600.png" border="0"> > >OTTA 2008 Winners > >Kyle Huettel – Nitrous >Jimmy Gardner – Nitrous >Justin Curry – Nitrous >Keith Szabo – Nitrous and No Bars > >Kenjo Kelly – Turbo’s > >Remember, these numbers did not start coming out until >next to the last race of the season which is why we >immediately put up the 2nd chance race money up at the >last event. > >I don’t think taking the bars off would help the >situation at all, and I don’t think Turbo vs Nitrous >is the correct answer. > >#1 We take a chance on breaking cars, is that the >answer that we want? NO, I think not. if we break >cars, we lose cars, which means a reduction of cars >counts. > > #2 Ten years ago I may have agreed that the bars >would slow cars down but with today’s technology, >after a few passes these guys will down load the data >on the cars, make adjustments and be right back where >they started. > >#3 It is a safety factor and I am not willing to stand >on that starting line and wonder if it was my decision >that caused someone to destroy their car or get hurt >or hurt someone else. > >I truly believe that splitting the field is the best >option but until we see what members we have we can’t >do that. We have no clue at this point what the best >type of split would be. We don't know who has done >what over the winter with the exception of a couple of >cars that we have seen out testing. As of today, I >know of about 5 cars running these kind of numbers and >“rumors” of a few more. If we can get a 7or 8 car >field of these type of numbers then we can look at >splitting the field.. (I predict that will happen). >The 2nd chance race was put up as a STARTING point. We >are not trying to lose racers we are trying to gain >them. We don’t want to hold racers back, we want them >to be all they can be and we do not want any of the >cars that support the organization to lose interest. >We are trying our best to keep “EVERYONE” happy and >that my friend is a very hard thing to do, but we are >trying. > >We want this to be the strongest organization out >there and we want everyone to have a good time racing >again, isn’t that truly what it is all about? We had >to start somewhere and we started with the 2nd chance >race. Tracy and I have always tried to address issues >as soon as we see them popping up and not waiting on >everyone to start complaining before doing something >about it, so remember we are trying to help not hurt. > >We (OTTA) also took on the Dallas members for the >coming up season. We don’t know what that is going to >bring to the class yet, most of the big numbers came >out once the OTTA season was over (i.e Clash of the >Titans or Out testing for the new season). We have to >wait and see what OTTA has… We only saw one car run >one pass in the 4.60 range in OTTA and that number is >pending being backed up in OTTA with OTTA rules. >Honestly we do not know what weight or anything else >these cars were running when racing in another >organization or out testing. We can’t jump the gun >here. We have to deal with it in OTTA, with OTTA rules >at an actual OTTA event. > >You should "NOT" be afraid of the unknown you should >be excited about it. > >Thanks for your input. |
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Author: Klint AKA Red Tazz [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:51:32 02/24/09 Tue Not scared just know the facts. These turbo cars will be in the low 70s and high 60s consistantly. Lets see we have Curry, Rob, Kevin Cram, Chad and Jason Wolfe, Eric, and Kenjo and Temo the turbo cars I left off(9 turbo cars). Kyle is the only N2 car anywhere in the ball park. Kenjo either slept or redlighted and that is the only reason Kenjo did not win more races(Rob abd Curry came in at the end of the season) hell he ran low 5.0s on seven cylnders several times. Look at Rob this weekend and look at the yellow tire max mustang at the last Clash. Remember I am just offering solutions to keep our sport alive(and stirring the pot a little with a back hoe LOL) because we do not want to be like the oulaw 10.5 races where mabe 5 cars show up to race. How about we have all cars qualify and you take the 8 fastest N2 and Turbo cars race them and the winner of the turbo class races the winner of the N2 class. This could really keep it intersting and then we would always have a N2 verses turbo final round.(just a sugestion and I know this would garauntee 16 cars)I am not sure about all of you but racing is fun and winning just makes it funner. I personally do not race for 2nd place and do not see the need show up if my car is not in the hunt. Yes we could go and drop the $$$$ on a turbo, but this does not help if racers either do not want to spend the money or just dont have it. When the every day racers can not afford to hang with big money cars they will not come. I know everyone wants to see how fast these turbo cars can go. And maybe it is really time for the N2 guys to hang it up or maybe we can set some type of rules to keep the N2 and turbo cars affordable and competitive(inlet restictions). I know we get a weight break but Physics will tell you that 100 lb weight break will not make a 4.84 car run with a 4.70 car(just a fact). Oh and as far as he bars go we raced with out them for a long time and it seemed that the field was level. By watching the videos everyone knows that this will slow the turbos down and some of the big inch N2 cars. The cars will have to find their tune but will not be able to unleash the major horse power($$$$$$$) they have. Some people say it is for safety but, I think is to say that OTTA breaks this and that reccord yadda, yadda, yadda. But wheelie bars were and are not allowed where the real true 10.5 races originated(East coast)so these records do not say alot. Take the bars off and then see how good these tuners are and see how many different cars you will see in the winners circle. This should be the groups vote not just Bonnies or Tracy's. This way Bonnie would not have to sit at the starting line and wonder. From what I heard this item was shut down at the meeting and not even voted on. Good thing I did not waist my gas trying to get my vote in LOL. Thanks Brian for trying to get this item voted on(lol). |
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Author: BLACKSUNSHINE RACING- BRUCE [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:45:37 02/25/09 Wed CLINT, NEVER SAID YOU WERE SCARED. IF YOU WILL LOOK WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU. I KNOW YOU ARE MAKING CHANGES IN YOUR CAR AND I EXPECT YOU TO RUN 4.70S. ADRL CAME ALONG AND KILLED OUTLAW 10.5 AND THEY DID IT WITH FEWER RULES, NOT MORE. THERE ALL KINDS OF COMBOS IN ADRL AND THEY ALL RUN TOGETHER AND THEY RUN BARS. YOU SUGGESTED THAT BLOWER AND NITROUS CARS RUN TOGETHER, AND THATS OK, BUT LAMAR IS BUILDING A BLOWER CAR. I AM NOT HIS BIGGEST FAN, BUT I DO RESPECT HIS ABILITY. HE WILL PROBABLY RUN THE PHUCK OVER BOTH OF US AND DO IT WITHOUT BARS, AND THATS OK TOO. TIGER WOODS WINS MOST OF THE TOURNAMENTS HE ENTERS, BUT I DON'T THINK HE SHOULD BE MADE TO PLAY LEFT HANDED. ALL I AM SAYING IS WE HAVE A CLASS. WE HAVE A SET OF RULES. WE HAVE A VENUE TO RACE. LETS GIVE IT A CHANCE AND LETS ALL RUN TOGETHER. EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO STEP UP AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I PREDICT ONE CAR WON'T WIN EVERY EVENT. BET WE CAN QUALIFY 16 FASTER CARS IN OTTA THAN ORSCA CAN. |
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Author: just a thought [Edit] |
Date Posted: 19:41:18 02/24/09 Tue Why don't we all agree just to give your whiney ass a head start. I thought you already had a new place to race? Shut up and Bring it.. Or just shut up....... If you spent as much time on your tune up as you did crying about how unfair everything is.. Then maybe you would be competitive. Again just a thought.. But what do I know? |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:58:23 02/25/09 Wed Tired of writing books. I try to get you excited about the 2009 season, but let's face it "I CAN'T" I am just fooling myself. |
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Author: PAUL [Edit] |
Date Posted: 03:14:05 02/27/09 Fri Come on now, this is a racing forum and every body has a right to there own opinion.The w/bar issue has been an on going debate for ever and there are alot of different opinions.My personel is that no bars would even alot of the field but hey once again its just my opinion.I know that its possable to run those 60s and low 70s without them but not here in texas and if so remind me who and when it was.Im guessing but look for some 50s from a couple of teams with there w/bar tunning device(LOL)AND NOW I HEAR UNLIMITED POWER ADDERS(please tell me im wrong).Hey, just trying to keep it interesting. lmao |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:11:33 02/27/09 Fri There was “NEVER” a limit on Power Adders, that did not change from last year. If you want to vote on the power adders talk to you committee and tell them you have an issue with it. That has NOTHING to do with me. That came out of the meeting last year when the discussion came up about adding alcohol to Nitrous, over 20 drivers in the meeting a few minutes discussion and they said let it go. That is what your committee is here for. The Wheelie bars (wow). Everyone keeps comparing us to ORSCA! ORSCA is “DYING” and needs help….Why repeat the same mistakes, shouldn’t we learn from our elders (ORSCA is our elders and they are suffering car counts) Ask yourself why? Simple: “If we lose car counts we die”….. If we destroy cars,(we lose car counts) we die. If we pay all the money up top – we lose the little guy for lack of interest. WE DIE. How many of you have even seen ORSCA’s payout. Challenge Yourself… OutlawRacing.com go find the payout. We do not want anyone to set in the garage and not join us…… It is that simple. I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN HATE ME TODAY FOR DOING THE EXACT SAME THING YOU LOVED ME FOR LAST YEAR…. NOTHING HAS CHANGE! I don't understand. MORE RACES-MORE MONEY! |
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Author: PAUL [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:41:57 02/27/09 Fri Easy now, lol, i stated it was just a opinion,Who the f#@$ am i "nobody".Was just clearly expressing my thoughts on the subject.As far as the power adders go, guess i wasnt clear, all i heard last year was kenjo this and kenjo that with his nitrous assisted turbo car and if someone wanted to protest him then they need to step up-you remember that?So if the rule has been no limit on power adders why the hell would anybody even give a crap what he had on his car. |
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Author: PAUL [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:46:56 02/27/09 Fri Also just for the record i dont hate anyone.I have no issue with this organization, but the day we have to keep our mouth shut because we might step on some toes is bullshit. I personaly think that you Bonnie have done a outstanding job keping the whole thing together and keeping a place for the otta racers a place to race.JUST SO ITS CLEAR, IT WAS ONLY AN OPINION |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:18:19 02/27/09 Fri Yes Paul... I do remember that and the reason it never became an issue was because it wasn't an issue, he was clearly within the rules.... I also remember several people coming to me and asking about Klints radial tires and again, it was never and issue because he was clearly within the rules! |
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Author: PAUL [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:31:00 02/27/09 Fri Thank you Bonnie, kinda slow sometimes-lol, ill try and keep up. |
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Author: PAUL [Edit] |
Date Posted: 03:22:26 02/27/09 Fri One more thing looking for a tuner for a twin turbo(promod 91s), F3 prochared, 2 fogger, twin plate, nito methane fueled true ten 5 gonna wear your ass out bad bitch with 100 inch w/bars in a outlaw ten five chassis(thats legal right?.LOL, sorry Bonnie i couldnt help myself |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:34:58 02/27/09 Fri No one is asking anyone to keep your mouth shut, you are more than welcome to express your openion.... but is there any other openions out there beside the wheelie bars? If this is the only thing that everyone has to fuss about then I think we are in pretty good shape. No matter what decission is ever made on the wheelie bars -- someone is not going to like it. |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:24:06 02/27/09 Fri Dang... Ok I can't spell I guess.. It was 6:30 this morning when I was trying to respond to all of this, there is something you can beat me up about and it will not hurt my feelings at all (lol). Again Paul. I am not telling you to shut up in any way, feel free to voice all of your concerns.... I am just hoping that we can "all" get past this one. |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:22:00 02/26/09 Thu I wanted to share this document with you because I thought it was worth reading. Just something to think about, or at least it was for me. Karen@RPM Magazine Posts:71 Outllaw 10.5 Guys - Question ?? http://outlawracing.com/MESSAGEFORUMS/tabid/53/forumid/1/postid/34898/view/topic/Default.aspx 02/26/2009 12:37 AM Alert A few weeks before I left to go to Hub City Dragway for the Fat Tuesday event, I heavily requested that Ralph and Todd add Outlaw 10.5 back into the event so we could continue the class participation that Fat Tuesday has always presented. It just did not settle with me well to leave you guys out. Fortunately after begging repeatedly, they (Ralph & Todd) agreed to take the risk and added a respectable purse. We had four (4) cars show up - three at the last minute and Mike Hill there with those last three in support.. Thank you Mike. Guys....... What I want to know is - IS THIS CLASS WORTH SAVING? Or shall we as track operators, promoters and premiere media representatives just let it wither away as it appears TO ME to be doing now? You guys that have Outlaw 10.5 cars used to be the hottest thing on the track. I know that Outlaw heart is still in there somewhere. Hardened maybe... but still there. Is bigger and better really the best? Or is racing a class you truly love to race the best? When I left ORSCA as your Media Director, I felt very solid in what we as ORSCA had built. I also felt it would stand the test of time. Changes yes, incorrect changes and allowances in the rules maybe/yes.... I do understand the positions taken on these issues. That is not what this post is about.... What this post is about is re-building what was once a great class - and restoring it back to its roots - and what would it take to get it there or if its worth the effort. Johnny Fenn has sent me what I consider a very humble and sincere email - while I was at Hub City. That in itself took alot. He and I share the same concerns on what he sees on the inside at ORSCA as far as participation and what I see on the outside across the southern sector of the United States in discussion with track operators and promoters down here concerning Outlaw 10.5. We see a division of the forces that is creating a slow death of something good. I talked with Mike Hill about what he sees has happened in Outlaw 10.5 and his position of possible remedy and I have now heard from Johnny Fenn. Mike Hill, who I love dearly has asked me to help aid in this process. How do you say NO to Mike Hill? Truthfully, what Mike asked me is if Johnny and I would work together to restore this class to what it used to be. It can and it will but not without your support. I really don't have a clue how many of you are out there that still plan to run Outlaw 10.5 and I would like a showing of hands to see who is still interested. Not necessarily with ORSCA just all over the south... and Texas guys this does include you .. and up the east coast too... if you guys are interested... I am prepared to put forth the effort in union with Johnny Fenn to rebuild this class to what it once was if the participation is there. (Did you sit down before you read this Johnny?) But before we attempt this - we need a showing of who is out there that would support this effort. ORSCA or not... No if ands or buts.. just simply "I will support". Nobody is drinking martinis out at their mansion running Outlaw 10.5 last time I checked. I truly feel its all about re-establishing roots and those of you who started with this class and have remained with this class know exactly what I am saying here. We all can not afford the financial upgrades to ADRL with the weakened economy, nor can the track operators afford those $10,000.00 - $20,000.00 purses with the current economy either. So give me a show of hands.... how many... and what will it take to get you to the track? Johnny - Mike Hill asked me to kiss and make up with you and work together to rebuild Outlaw 10.5 - I figured if I closed my eyes it wouldn't hurt so bad........ YOU READY? Seriously....... I need to know the support is there before effort is placed.. or if all of you have decided to just quit and walk away? This is a pretty open post guys - Karen Bryant |
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Author: TRACIE [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:00:37 02/25/09 Wed I THINK I AM REPEATING THIS CORRECTLY 3RD EVER PASS IN ADRL EXTREME 10.5 CAR NAISER GOES A 4.11 WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM. GLAD I GOT MY AUTOGRAPH LAST WEEK. LOL. THIS EXPLAINS THE SUDDEN DECLINE IN YOUR BOWLING SCORE IT SEEMS YOU AND RICKY HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON HORSEPOWER AND NO LONGER ON PIN ACTION. LOL.. I AM SO EXCITED AND CAN'T WAIT FOR THE 6TH AND 7TH.. WAY TO GO NAISER AND TRICKY RICKY OR AND YOU TO KIM... :):):) BTW IF ANYONE NEEDS ADRL TICKET BONNIE AND I HAVE THEM |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 22:24:53 02/20/09 Fri That is awsom to hear... Best of luck at the ADRL and I can't wait to be on the side line watching. |
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Author: coop [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:00:11 02/23/09 Mon first pass off the trailer 4.17 then the 4.11 and almost looked like he clicked it early it was definitely hauling the mail |
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Author: in the know [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:00:37 02/25/09 Wed |
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Author: Nitrovid [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:24:57 02/24/09 Tue ROB VALDRN aka "TURBO ROB is in the final round in the semi final he ran a 4.74 for the win. In the other lane was Paulk who had engine trouble. It is a Texas VS Georgia finals Sabo from Georgia ran a 4.75 to Robs 4.74 Rob has lane choice in the finals. Report from Wes Strom Nitroart.com. Reporter Kevin Maurer / Nitrovid |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:12:49 02/25/09 Wed |
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Author: 10.5 fan [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:29:20 02/24/09 Tue http://videos.streetfire.net/profile/clreese1990.htm Outlaw 10.5,True10.5,Pro Mods,Grudge vids The videos are unstoppable including a video clip from 07 high velocity tx vs the world at hrp 2008 Shakedown At E-Town There are some more coming up so stay tuned every week |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:08:16 02/24/09 Tue ![]() By Bonnie_Webb ![]() By Bonnie_Webb ![]() By Bonnie_Webb ![]() By Bonnie_Webb |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:12:40 02/23/09 Mon 1. Rob Valden 4.749 2 Szabo 4.50 3 Soliz 5.08 4 Paulk 5.12 5 Maxwell 5.17 6 Mcgee 5.19 7 Stambro 5.39 8 Shows 5.44 9 Nichols 5.57 10 Donaldson 5.73 Good luck guys... Keep us posted |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 14:34:29 02/23/09 Mon What ever you post in the body will pop up all on the screen now even when replying to a previous message. You will not have to click on it to open it up. If you do post everything in the title, be sure to delete everything in the box down below. This was fixed per Paw Paws request. Hope this helps. Thanks, Bonnie |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:38:47 02/23/09 Mon Just a reminder: Please find attached the Pre-Registration Form to enter the 1st Annual Spring Stampede Test Session February 27-March 1, 2009, at Houston Raceway Park. First annual Spring Stampede Preseason Test Session Feb. 27- Mar. 1 at Houston Raceway Park presented by WWW.DRAGRACEHOSE.COM Baytown, TX- Officials for Houston Raceway Park today announced the first annual Spring Stampede Preseason Test Session presented by DragRaceHose.com which will take place Feb. 27-Mar. 1, 2009, at Houston Raceway Park in Baytown, Texas. Organizers expect race teams in the NHRA, IHRA, and the ADRL sanctions to participate in this preseason test to tune their hot rods for the 2009 season. Houston Raceway Park benefits from incredible atmospheric conditions because of its proximity to Trinity Bay, which feeds the facility cool air. “During this off season we are going to grind our concrete launch pad to ensure we have the smoothest racing surface possible. The track will be in tip-top shape for the ground pounding 8,000 horsepower machines that need ideal track conditions,” said track GM Seth Angel. “We know that the ADRL will open its 2009 season here March 6-7, the NHRA O’Reilly Spring Nationals are set for March 27-29th, and this test session will allow everyone a chance to fine-tune their set-ups both for our race and the upcoming season.” Houston Raceway Park is also scheduled to host two NHRA South Central Division events, May 15-17th and July 24-25th. Sportsman racer Will Hanna, owner of DragRaceHose.com and webmaster for the popular sportsman websites InsideTopAlcohol.com, InsideCompRacing.com and InsideFastBrackets.com, has worked closely with the track to organize the event. “With the schedule falling the way it does next year, this is a perfect combination of schedule, venue and conditions,” stated Hanna. “Usually the Division 4 schedule kicks off in late February or early March, but they have pushed that back this year, so it will make it easier for the local teams to get ready to test. It’s the week after the Phoenix NHRA national, so the Pro teams will be on their way from Phoenix to Gainesville, Fla. So it’s right on the way for them. Not to mention, its right before the ADRL season opener here at this track. “Having experience myself with high horsepower cars, it’s very difficult to find the right conditions to test and actually learn something,” Hanna continued. “Without having a decent amount of high horsepower cars going down the track, it’s hard to duplicate race day type conditions. That won’t be our problem with this event. There will be plenty of cars and great conditions. I’m proud to have my company, DragRaceHose.com’s name associated with it.” Top Fuel Dragster and Nitro Funny Car Teams: No charge—all teams must pre-register prior to Monday, February 23, 2009. Please contact Seth Angel at (281) 383-7223 or e-mail: seth@houstonraceway.com for additional information. Professional and Semi-Professional Teams: Pro Stock, Pro Stock Bike, Pro Mod, ADRL Professional Categories: Pro Extreme, Pro Nitrous, Extreme 10.5, & Pro Extreme Motorcycle Top Alcohol Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, Pro Street, Outlaw 10.5. Cost to test is $150 if you pre-register, $200 after deadline (includes car and driver plus two crew) and is valid for entire weekend. Pre-Registration Deadline: Monday, February 16, 2009 Sportsman Teams: Open to any Lucas Oil Sportsman team or any NHRA E.T. category. Cost to test is $100 if you pre-register, $150 after deadline (includes car and driver plus one crew) for a weekend run card or $75 for a single day of testing. Teams can also contact Will Hanna at (979) 415-4959 or email will.hanna@insidetopalcohol.com. Pre-Registration Deadline: Monday, February 16, 2009 Thursday, Feb. 26, 2009 Credential sales and pit parking - 9 a.m.-5 p.m. Friday, Feb. 27-Sunday, Mar. 1, 2009 Credential sales and tech inspection - 7 a.m. Sportsman and E.T. time trials - 8 a.m.-6 p.m. Professional and Semi-Professional time trials - 9 a.m.-5 p.m. Houston Raceway Park is located off Interstate 10 East in Baytown. Fans should take the Hwy. 146 exit (No. 797) and turn right. Proceed to the first stop light, which is FM 565, and turn left. Houston Raceway Park is three miles down on the left. For additional information click to: www.houstonraceway.com Will Hanna’s www.DragRaceHose.com is an official distributor of ultra high-quality Goodridge Hoses and Fittings, the name top racers in all motorsports disciplines trust. Goodridge is also a paying contingency sponsor in NHRA and IHRA, so log on to add your name to the list of racers winning with Goodridge. Houston Raceway Park Media- Sincerely, Seth Angel General Manager Houston Raceway Park Office: 281.383.RACE Fax: 281.383.3777 Visit us at: www.houstonraceway.com |
| Subject: Fat Tuesday - Update from Hub City | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:33:26 02/22/09 Sun Rob Valden ran a 4.78 today at Hub City with the front wheels up from the 330 through the traps, Szabo is the #1 qualifier with a 4.75. Good luck Rob, bring some of that Mississippi money back to Texas. I will try to keep you posted. |
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Author: copied from the ORSCA board [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:47:03 02/23/09 Mon Anthony New is the only Outlaw 10.5 car. Limited Street #1 Szabo 4.75 #2 Turbo Rob from Texas 4.78 (Run dq'd b/c he hit the 1/8th mile cone) Paul Solis went 5.08. There's a good amount of limited street cars, but its a sad showing for Outlaw 10.5. There were a bunch of fans for sure Sunday, so it should be crazy as far as fans go Tuesday. Not sure from there. Paulk was on a pretty good run in the second round, but when Rob hit the cone in the other lane it also tripped Paulk's timer. |
| Subject: Mickey Thompson Discounts. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:13:52 02/20/09 Fri ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: More memories | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:55:26 02/19/09 Thu More memories.. I just found this while looking for something else, but it brought back memories for me. Check it out. http://www.texaskingofthehill.net/html/hvlimited.html |
| Subject: Tracie and I would like to give a special thanks to NitroVideo for sharing some special Highlights with us for our 2008 season. | |
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Author: Bonnie and Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 22:05:54 02/18/09 Wed ![]() ![]() Tracie and I would like to say a special thank you for joining us last year and we are looking forward to a great 2009 season I hope I posted these video's correctly Thanks Kevin and Wes for sharing these with us. Kyle+Huettel+Sets+OTTA+ET+Record Kyle Huettel sets OTTA record at Evadale KENJO+KELLY+OTTA+TRUE+TEN+4.67+%40+163+MPH KENJO KELLY OTTA TRUE TEN 4.67 @ 163 MPH FASTEST+TT5+HOT+ROD+IN+TEXAS Some+Texas+Drag+Racing Some Texas Drag Racing The+Clash+11-29-2008+P1 The Clash of the Titans The fastest OTTA hotrods in Town Justin Curry THE+O.T.T.A+%26+U%2fS+CLASSES+OF+HIGH+VELOCITY+RACING THE O.T.T.A & U/S CLASSES OF HIGH VELOCITY RACING 10-4-2008 It's 3:30am Ultimate+Street+record+setting+pass Ultimate Street record setting pass OTTA+10-4-2008+True+10.5+Racing OTTA 10-4-2008 True 10.5 Racing OTTA+8-20-2008 OTTA 8-20-2008 Kenjo+taking+the+10.5+car+for+a+little+big+end+180 Kenjo taking the 10.5 car for a little big end 180 spin OTTA+%26+S%26S+Index+Race+P2-+Houston+Raceway+Park OTTA & S&S Index Race P2- Houston Raceway Park - August 2, 2008 OTTA+%26+S%26S+Index+Race+P1-+Houston+Raceway+Park+-+A OTTA & S&S Index Race P1- Houston Raceway Park - August 2, 2008 OTTA+OutLaw+True+10.5+Finals+August+2%2c+2008 OTTA OutLaw True 10.5 Finals August 2, 2008 Houston Tx. HRP OTTA+OutLaw+True+10.5+Finals+August+2%2c+2008 OTTA OutLaw True 10.5 Finals August 2, 2008 Houston Tx. HRP OTTA+%40+Evadale+7-5-2008 Evadale 7-5-2008 OTTA+(OutLaw+True+Ten+Association)+May+2008 OTTA (OutLaw True Ten Association) May 2008 Bad+Chad+67+Camaro+Outlaw+10.5+Hard+Hit+and+Save+M Bad Chad 67 Camaro Outlaw 10.5 Hard Hit and Save May 31,2008 HRP Vett.+Oil+Leek+and+Crash Vett. Oil Leek and Crash HIGH+VELOCITY+and+S%2fS+INDEX+SHOOTOUT+HRP+2007 HIGH VELOCITY and S/S INDEX SHOOTOUT OTTA+High+Velocity+April+5%2c+2008+Evadale+Raceway OTTA High Velocity April 5, 2008 Evadale Raceway Come+out+to+the+Fastest+track+in+the+Texas+Deep+So Come out to the Fastest track in the Texas Deep So 2007+Evadale+Tx.+Some+10.5+Racing+ Evadale Tx. Some 10.5 Racing Outlaw+True+Tens+Final+Round+Evadale+Raceway True 10 finals at Evadale |
| [> Subject: Re: Tracie and I would like to give a special thanks to NitroVideo for sharing some special Highlights with us for our 2008 season. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:38:29 02/19/09 Thu Sorry everyone. Street Fire is down for upgrades. It should be back up in a couple of hours. |
| Subject: M/T Slick | |
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Author: T.Diaz [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:56:11 02/18/09 Wed Who has the best price on 29.5 x 10.5S in the Houston area? |
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Author: Black Sunshine [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:37:37 02/16/09 Mon We deal with George at Wholesale Wheel and Tire (713-946-3999). He will do you right on the price and he usually has them in stock. I know a bunch of the OTTA guys use him and his tires are always fresh. |
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Author: T.Diaz [Edit] |
Date Posted: 12:02:54 02/18/09 Wed Thanks, good luck in 2009 >We deal with George at Wholesale Wheel and Tire >(713-946-3999). He will do you right on the price and >he usually has them in stock. I know a bunch of the >OTTA guys use him and his tires are always fresh. |
| Subject: Some Texas Drag Racing | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:46:28 02/18/09 Wed Some+Texas+Drag+Racing Here some Video's that Kevin put up earlier this year |
| Subject: Points for 2009 OTTA | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:35:33 02/18/09 Wed The schedule has been realeased for the 2009 season and will be working on the points system over the next week. We are thinking: Double points at two Dallas area Races and Double Points at two Houston Area races and the racers can drop two races. We understand that not all racers can travel to all the events but we would like everyone to attend as many as they can. This will be a busy race season but I think it will be a lot of fun. See you at the races. |
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Author: ... [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:36:48 02/18/09 Wed So if i read the schedule right there are gonna be no races in the houston area in 09? |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:06:49 02/13/09 Fri Looks that way. Bonnie is woking on Sealy but it is not set in stone yet. |
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Author: TRACIE [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:37:28 02/13/09 Fri OK I DO KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT IS WORKING NOT WOKING.. |
| [> [> [> Subject: OOOOOOHHHHHH BUSTED | |
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Author: BIG DUSTIN [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:05:48 02/13/09 Fri DAMN TRACIE GOT SKEWLED LOL |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: The schedule is complete now, 7 in Houston Area and 7 in Dallas area... | |
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Author: Do you want more? [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:35:12 02/16/09 Mon |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: The schedule is complete now, 7 in Houston Area and 7 in Dallas area... | |
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Author: tt5 racer [Edit] |
Date Posted: 14:05:20 02/17/09 Tue Houston area...??? what a fucking joke... three tracks in the houston area an i din't see any of em on that list!! This board should say for heads up racing everywhere but the houston area!! |
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Author: Dip Shit finder [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:21:01 02/17/09 Tue The tt5 RACER'S over here have names. Haven't you heard, they are famous even Hot Rod Fucking Gossip knows who they are. Go Home you want-a-be and comeback when you are man enough to post your name "or should we post it for you"? |
| [> Subject: Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can read! | |
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Author: Give him an A for AssHole [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:26:40 02/17/09 Tue |
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Author: GOOGLE MAN [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:36:48 02/18/09 Wed Now alot of these guys can't make it out of town all the time not in this day in time with the economy like it is. But realize one thing, you have a place to race now. Sorry that our big tracks don't want to honor our OTTA guys. So you have to take them else where to get a show. When do racers after putting their cars together have to come up with extra money to race and pay there purse. The North tracks are offering their care to get OTTA up North to give them a show, in which they haven't had in a long time. So now they got what they wanted. Houston will finally realize when you got the best, in your back yard you need to honor and cherish them. Now our Houston fans are going to get Kibbles and Bits. I really believe that the Houston tracks really need to work with the group that are here and push them 100% to keep these shows at home and build something that world will know that the racing is in Houston, that is the place to race. Like we alway say COME AND GET YOU SOME, No Excuses, Now that OTTA has made a name for itself, everyone wants to get on the wagon and ride except for our own Houston tracks. We all know that Joe has races, this year also, but had to get bits and pieces of the venues in between the dates of out of town races to hope that his deal become successful. I wish him good luck to also. But there is still a problem there. Why didn't our tracks honor any of these races in Houston. Don't blame it on the promotors, the tracks are the blame, they can't do anything unless the track has come to an agreement. It's an all win for them and not caring about who's going to put on the show. I hope this year goes well, will the tracks, promotors, sponsors, racers, & spectators get any of this STIMULUS PACKAGE? I don't think so. Remmeber Racing is a Hobby, not an job. |
| Subject: Turbo Rob testing for the OTTA 2009 season last weekend | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:53:27 02/17/09 Tue [More videos from Bonnie_Webb] Thanks Miranda for sharing this video with us. |
| Subject: PineValley Raceway joins the High Velocity Impact Racing 2009 tour | |
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Author: Bonnie and Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:28:29 02/16/09 Mon ![]() ![]() http://www.pinevalleyracing.com/ OTTA and Ultimate Street has just added 1 more races to the 2009 Tour We are excited to announce that OTTA and Ultimate Street will be running at PineValley Raceway September 19, 2009 Please join me and welcoming PineValley Raceway to the High Velocity Impact Racing 2009 tour. Pinevalley raceway 3427 FM 2497 Lufkin, TX 75904 3/14/2009 OTTA - North Star Denton 4/11/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 5/16/2009 OTTA - North Star- Denton 6/13/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street – Sealy, Lonestar Motorsports Park 6/20/2009 OTTA - Dallas Raceway, Crandall, TX 7/4/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 7/18/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 7/25/2009 - Eddinburg TX - OTTA and a Bracket Race - Eddinburg International Raceway - I need at least a 10 car field for 5k purse - This will not be a pointsrace but I need committments please 8/15/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 9/5/2009 OTTA - Dallas Raceway. Crandall, TX 9/19/2009 OTTA - Ultimate Street – Pinevalley Raceway, Lufkin, TX. 10/3/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 10/10/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street – Sealy, Lonestar Motorsports Park 10/17/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 11/14/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale |
| Subject: Lonestar Motorsports Park added to the 2009 tour | |
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Author: Bonnie and Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:51:13 02/16/09 Mon ![]() ![]() http://www.lonestarmotorsportspark.com/lonestarmotorsportspark/page.php?id=6 OTTA has just added 2 more races to the 2009 Tour We are excited to announce that OTTA and Ultimate Street will be running at Lonestar Motorsports Park June 13, 2009 and October 10, 2009 Please join me and welcoming Lonestar Motorsports Park to the High Velocity Impact Racing 2009 tour. LoneStar Motorsports Park 120 OLD COLUMBUS RD. S. SEALY, TX 77474 3/14/2009 OTTA - North Star Denton 4/11/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 5/16/2009 OTTA - North Star- Denton 6/13/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street – Sealy, Lonestar Motorsports Park 6/20/2009 OTTA - Dallas Raceway, Crandall, TX 7/4/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 7/18/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 7/25/2009 - Eddinburg TX - OTTA and a Bracket Race - Eddinburg International Raceway - I need at least a 10 car field for 5k purse - This will not be a pointsrace but I need committments please 8/15/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 9/5/2009 OTTA - Dallas Raceway. Crandall, TX 10/3/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 10/10/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street – Sealy, Lonestar Motorsports Park 10/17/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 11/14/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale |
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Author: Klint Aka Red TaZZ [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:24:54 02/15/09 Sun Selling 10 Nitrous bottles some of them are full and ready to go. Will sale or trade for 15lb carbon fiber bottles. I need 6 carbon fiber 15 lb bottles. Also have ols SBC from old car for sale, and a couple pairs of 10.5 slicks with less than 10 passes on them. Gearing up for next season and mai=king room. klintl@sbcglobal.net 281-222-1495 |
| Subject: Scott's new wrap for his mule | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:22:37 02/14/09 Sat I thought this was cool so I wanted to share it with you. Here is a draft of the new wrap that Scott Singleton is putting on his mule. ![]() ![]() |
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Author: Karen Bryant (RPM Magazine) [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:11:44 02/12/09 Thu Hey that is freakin awesome...way to go Scott...be riding in style !!...LOL.. Karen >I thought this was cool so I wanted to share it with >you. >Here is a draft of the new wrap that Scott Singleton >is putting on his mule. > > >href="http://imageshack.us"> >scottsingletoit1.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by >ImageShack.us"/> >href="http://g.imageshack.us/img212/newwrapforscottsing >letoit1.jpg/1/"> >singletoit1.jpg/1/w800.png" border="0"> |
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Author: SCOTT SINGLETON [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:22:37 02/14/09 Sat Yea I can't wait to see it in real life! Hopefully at the end of next week. I did have the graphic Designer Eric Bottos go back and paint Turbo Todd's hood blue before the final proofs were complete! lol If you need a new Mule or new Kawasaki T-Rex call up UV Country in Houston and talk to Shannon Tracey the owner and she will take good care of you! Those Bad Boys are perfect for carrying all your race stuff and tows the car real nice!! |
| Subject: possible true ten race at little river. | |
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Author: john dinkel [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:12:00 02/13/09 Fri anyone interested in a tt5 race at little river on march 28? we will run ultimate street rules and it will pay down 8 places if we get more than 8 cars. not sure if anyone will be ready that early but i need to guage interest before i say go. probably be 100.00 entry driver and 1 crewmember and 1000.00 to win but don't hold me to the details. john dinkel 512-771-5257 |
| Subject: Kyles new Hero Cards watch out turbo boyz hes coming to get ya | |
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Author: David/KOTH [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:31:24 02/13/09 Fri ![]() If anyone is interested in getting some I will be at ADRL David 214 282 6404 |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:33:08 02/12/09 Thu |
| [> Subject: So I take it that those Hero Cards are going to make his car beat Turbo Cars now? Hmmmm Sounds kinda Fishy to me.. =) How many Kits you got in them Hero cards there Buddy? Hehehe | |
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Author: Th Duck =) [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:31:24 02/13/09 Fri Hey Kyle, I thought you were breakin in the NEW car out and Retiring the Bad 9er? OMG!!!! I just seen something that just don't look right!!!!! DUDE,,, Are those (((W's) in tha Picture? Hehehehe =) |
| Subject: Winter Warm up reminder | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:23:55 02/11/09 Wed ![]() ![]() |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:25:37 02/11/09 Wed Anyone who wants to take advantage of this, give Rodney a call and he will make sure that your name is at the gate Rodney Whatley 214-763-3587 |
| Subject: NOS Bottles for sale | |
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Author: T.Diaz [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:53:03 02/11/09 Wed Turbo's are in and the Speedtech High Flow Bottles got to go $100.00 each as of today got 7 Call 281-960-9599 |
| Subject: ultimate street | |
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Author: jeff miller [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:49:19 02/11/09 Wed I think the comment about ultimate street getting shit on is very much the truth .you all are using the evadale races as alag timefor when you all are not running. I would like to know what kenny barnes told you about us running at his track . Im doing alot of work to my car to make it leagal for U/S. Plus be competitive. When you go to the track owners tell them its a package deal. Just like when someone makes acomment about something and says tits and ass.LOL JUST MY 2CENTS. |
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Author: Kenny [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:12:01 02/10/09 Tue Author: Jeff Miller [Edit] Date Posted: 17:47:02 02/09/09 Mon Joe lets talk about combing some races with the ultimate street class for two or three races. __{And blow the purse away from the other organizaion}___.Lets HEAR SOME IMPUT. So joe can start working on it.may combine some of the local cars with aweight limit on a 10 in tire. T bag, bussnell and some others So who were you planning on blowing away because we know WHO your BLOWING!!!! |
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Author: Bonnie and Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:19:30 02/10/09 Tue Jeff If you need any information, rules, names, phone numbers emails, etc. feel free to contact us and we will be happy to send you any information that you feel valued to help build your Tuff Street class. We will be happy to assist you in any way possible. We are here for the racers. |
| [> [> Subject: JEFF MILLER IS A CRYBABY BRAT THAT CRYS IF HE DOESNT GET HIS WAY. WHY DONT YOU TAKE YOUR SHIT AND RUN SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU BIG TIT. | |
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Author: SEEN IT MYSELF [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:49:19 02/11/09 Wed |
| Subject: I need Rick Stevens or Kevin Crams PH # | |
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Author: Klint AKA Red TaZZ Express [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:35:09 02/10/09 Tue I need Rick Stevens or Kevin Crams PH # It can be emaile to me at klintl@sbcglobal.net |
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Author: Henry [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:05:21 02/10/09 Tue |
| Subject: OTTA - Press Release Schedule for 2009 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 23:36:21 02/09/09 Mon ![]() ![]() OTTA has just added 2 more races to the 2009 Tour We are excited to announce that OTTA will be running at the new State of the Art facility in Crandall, TX. at Dallas Raceway in June and September of 2009. The track will be hosting an IHRA National event at the end of May so there should be plenty of rubber on the race track for us in June. 3/14/2009 OTTA - North Star Denton 4/11/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 5/16/2009 OTTA - North Star- Denton 6/20/2009 OTTA - Dallas Raceway, Crandall, TX 7/4/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 7/18/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 7/25/2009 - Eddinburg TX - OTTA and a Bracket Race - Eddinburg International Raceway - I need at least a 10 car field for 5k purse - This will not be a points race but I need committments please 8/15/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 9/5/2009 OTTA - Dallas Raceway. Crandall, TX 10/3/2009 OTTA - North Star - Denton 10/17/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale 11/14/2009 OTTA and Ultimate Street - Evadale |
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Author: David Burnnett [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:54:11 02/09/09 Mon I am a little confused????? I thought Ultimate Street was apart of OTTA??? Isnt Ultimate Street a " Class " in OTTA? Alont with "Outlaw True Ten Class". Why would The outlaw True Ten class be at 12 races and the Ultimate Street class Only have 4! There is something seriously wrong with the picture here. I have built a car for this class under the assumption I would have a competetive points series to race in along with the Outlaw True Tens. With there only being 4 races scheduled for the Ultimate Street class it is pretty clear to me this class is being treated as the "FILLER" for the Outlaws in Evadale. I believe this class is a respectable class in the Heads up racing communtiy and they are getting shit on by being shafted with only 4 races at the same track. How can you book 12 races for one class and only 4 for the other??? I really enjoyed watching this class last year and was looking forward to racing in it this year. Can you please let me know ASAP if there is only going to be 4 races for this class this year. |
| [> [> Subject: The TTT5 organization has about 13 races in the Dallas area at these tracks, once you include the 4 we booked it makes 17 races for them. The tracks in Dallas each already have them for 3 races. We are working on a solution. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 23:36:21 02/09/09 Mon |
| Subject: recap and fairwell | |
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Author: big dustin and family [Edit] |
Date Posted: 19:22:29 02/06/09 Fri Well its been a while since my last post and (ass chewing) there has been a lot of confusion with money the last few seasons and as long as people continue to race there will always be a concern of it even though it doesn’t come out of everyone’s pocket just a few certain pockets however I would like to thank Bonnie and Tracie for all of there efforts they have put forth toward the racing industry I think we should all take a step back and look what they have done for the industry without them we would still be a bunch of test and tuners Bonnie brought the AMS pro mod’s to Houston as well as the ADRL a big accomplishment Bonnie and Tracie both together have promoted the OTTA and have made us all famous we have even made it in the magazines lol even me so I would like to say thanks ladies my hats off to you and keep up the good work Also with all the drama in racing the body shop business has gotten really busy and I have not had time to reply back or talk to many people which is starting to cut into my family time and seeing how we have officially found out that im going to be a daddy now im going to lay off of racing this year so I wish everyone a good season and I will see ya around im sure and ill post in a few weeks or so what we will have PS some one tell Kenjo he can have multiple power adders this year lol |
| [> Subject: HEY Big DUSTIN.. !!! | |
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Author: Th Duck [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:12:24 02/05/09 Thu Hey first off I want to congratulate you on the up and coming new addition to your family. =) Congrats man !!!!!!!! =) and I just wanna say you are gonna be missed this year, I think I have more fun giving you a hard time than I do anyone else in the OTTA group. Your funny antics and your funny sense of humor is really what this class needs. People get way too serious when it comes to racing,,I mean yea it's a Bitch Racing and wanting to compete, but you still can't let that get the best of us.. You are always having fun regardless if you are qualifying, going rounds or get knocked out first round or even if your ladder bar welds broke making your car go all jacked up & crab walking down the track;; You think that shit is cool as hell and wanna do it again and we laugh about it cause we all know that would piss anyone else off if it happened.. You my friend have always had an outgoing and Chipper outlook on racing and I am sure alot of the guys respect that.. and they will miss that as well.. I still think you should make it by the races just to say hey and give us all that SMACK TALK that we enjoy coming outa your mouth even though you are not racing this year. I am sure you can grab a mic too and give em hell too. =) Hope to see ya around big boy!!!!!! and hope the baby comes out holding a Transbrake Button !!! =) hehehe |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:58:07 02/05/09 Thu CONGRATS ABOUT THE LITTLE D. ON THE WAY. I am so sad that you won't be racing. But we know that family and work comes first. So since your not racing how about being on the recieving end of OTTA. WE NEED YOUR LOUD MOUTH ON THE MIC.... WE LOVE YA BIG D... SO HOPE TO SEE YA AT THE RACES...... |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:08:49 02/05/09 Thu You have said for years that as soon as you found out you were going to be a daddy that you would quit racing and focus on your little sports team. I know that you have looked forward to this day for years and I know that you are going to be a great daddy. We really enjoyed having you race with us last year and we are going to miss having you around, but if you ever get board, just come on out and we will put a mic in your hand. We love you Big D and good luck to you on your little blessing. Keep us posted. |
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Author: Fred @ the Dale [Edit] |
Date Posted: 19:22:29 02/06/09 Fri Big D sorry to hear you are taking off this year. But also glad to hear about the Little one. You are welcome anytime to grab that cordless Mic here at the Dale when ya come out. |
| Subject: LATEST UPDATE!!!!!! MORE OTTA MONEY WELL SPENT. HAD A GREAT CHICKIN FRIED STEAK TODAY WITH SOME SWET TEA HOMEMADE TATERS AND GRAVY. LOL | |
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Author: THE FOOD NETWORK [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:59:59 02/05/09 Thu |
| [> Subject: Very funny (STI). You might try laying off the tatters a bit. | |
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Author: In the know...... [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:56:41 02/04/09 Wed |
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Author: ..... [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:59:59 02/05/09 Thu |
| Subject: Let's get back to RACING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Author: Kenny [Edit] |
Date Posted: 04:08:47 02/05/09 Thu First annual Spring Stampede Preseason Test Session Feb. 27- Mar. 1 at Houston Raceway Park presented by WWW.DRAGRACEHOSE.COM |
| Subject: Can we get back to racing. I will have ADRL tickets tomorrow if anyone needs some dropped off. | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 21:58:39 02/04/09 Wed |
| Subject: Ultimate Street Anouncment | |
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Author: Bonnie and Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:42:07 02/04/09 Wed I would like to thank Mike Kurtz for joining Ultimate Street's organization as a team leader in organization of Ultimate Street at the High Velocity Impact Races. Coach worked very hard last year to get Ultimate street up and running and now there is a need for more help. As the old saying goes, "Coach can't do it all!" Coach will focus on Tech and can be more available to the racers in the pit area with Mike working the starting line, line up, ladders, and issue that come up on the starting line. We have had the oppertunity to work with Mike in the past and we welcome his expertise. We are excited that Ultimate Street has grown enough over the last year that we had to add extra head count to the class. Please join me in welcoming Mike Kurtz to our organization. Thanks Mike and we look forward to working with you all season. |
| Subject: NEWS FLASH!!!!!! THIS JUST IN ALL THE OTTA MONEY HAS BEEN ACOUNTED FOR. IT WAS WELL SPENT AT FOGO DE CHOW AND BOY WAS IT GOOD. | |
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Author: TREASURER$$$$$ [Edit] |
Date Posted: 12:28:34 02/04/09 Wed |
| [> Subject: Wow! They said it couldn't be done without HRG, OTTA had a great year without HRG last year and this year OTTA seems to be the main topic of HRG. Should we thank him for the Advertisement. | |
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Author: Today is history in the making [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:14:16 02/02/09 Mon |
| [> [> Subject: Re: Wow! They said it couldn't be done without HRG, OTTA had a great year without HRG last year and this year OTTA seems to be the main topic of HRG. Should we thank him for the Advertisement. | |
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Author: billy bob [Edit] |
Date Posted: 14:00:03 02/02/09 Mon I was just on that page and Joe never said anything about yall except that he likes Tracy. Saids she was nice to him. It is all the others that are talking trash |
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Author: HMMM! [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:06:30 02/02/09 Mon |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: Hey OTTA is FAMOUS, RPM, ESPN, AND NOW "HOT ROD FUCKING GOSSIP" | |
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Author: PAPARAZZI [Edit] |
Date Posted: 15:19:23 02/02/09 Mon |
| [> Subject: NEWS FLASH!!! NO ONE CARES GLAD YOU COULD HAVE YOUR SAY ON THE OTTA BOARD. AS USUAL HERE FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT | |
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Author: wasn't that spectacular looking back [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:42:01 02/03/09 Tue |
| [> [> Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH!!! NO ONE CARES GLAD YOU COULD HAVE YOUR SAY ON THE OTTA BOARD. AS USUAL HERE FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT | |
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Author: HOTRODFUCKINGGOSSIP.COM [Edit] |
Date Posted: 12:28:34 02/04/09 Wed EVERYBODY THATS ANYBODY RODE JOES NUTS TO GET THERE! OFTEN IMATATED BUT NEVER DUPLICATED!!!! |
| Subject: OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:26:27 02/03/09 Tue With all the drama over the last few weeks, I thought we could take a quick trip down memory lane as a refresher. Here are some pictures of your cars that were taken in 2008. I think we should stop and take a minute and remember what a great year we had, it was a bit rocky at times but it was a great year for OTTA. We "all" did it. The question is, can we "all" do it again????? I think so, so come on guys let take over Texas Houston - Dallas - Odessa - Eddinburg - Crandal. We have come to far to stop now. 2008 OTTA Points Champion Kenjo Kelly ![]() ![]() 2008 Points Runner Up Kyle Huettel ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: Continued OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:24:32 02/03/09 Tue More 2008 In alpha order Big Dustin ![]() ![]() Bobby Fry ![]() ![]() Brandon Fugler ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: Continued OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:23:28 02/03/09 Tue Brian Fitzgerold ![]() ![]() Brian Sandlin ![]() ![]() Chad Revia ![]() ![]() |
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Author: slow poke [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:15:07 02/04/09 Wed |
| Subject: Continued OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:22:13 02/03/09 Tue Don Dick ![]() ![]() Dustin Dubose ![]() ![]() Gary Peltier ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: Continued OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:21:20 02/03/09 Tue Jason Gibson ![]() ![]() Jimmy Gardner ![]() ![]() Justin Curry ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: Continued OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:20:25 02/03/09 Tue Justin Martin ![]() ![]() Kevin Cram ![]() ![]() klint Leblanc ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: Continued OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:19:20 02/03/09 Tue Mario Gonzales ![]() ![]() Mike Croix ![]() ![]() Rob Valden ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: Continued 2008 otta | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:18:23 02/03/09 Tue Roger Wildens ![]() ![]() Shane Parker ![]() ![]() Themo Diaz ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie Webb [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:22:05 02/03/09 Tue With all the drama over the last few weeks, I thought we could take a quick trip down memory lane as a refresher. Here are some pictures of your that were taken in 2008. I think we should stop and take a minute and remember what a great year we had, it was a bit rocky at times but it was a great year for OTTA. We "all" did it. The question is, can we do it again????? I think so, so come on guys let take over Texas Houston - Dallas - Odessa - Eddinburg - Crandal. We have come to far to stop now. 2008 OTTA Points Champion Kenjo Kelly ![]() ![]() 2008 Points Runner Up Kyle Huettel ![]() ![]() More 2008 In alpha order Big Dustin ![]() ![]() Bobby Fry ![]() Brandon Fugler ![]() ![]() Brian Fitzgerold ![]() ![]() Brian Sandlin ![]() ![]() Chad Revia ![]() ![]() Don Dick ![]() ![]() Dustin Dubose ![]() ![]() Gary Peltier ![]() ![]() Jason Gibson ![]() ![]() Jimmy Gardner ![]() ![]() Justin Curry ![]() ![]() Justin Martin ![]() ![]() Kevin Cram ![]() ![]() klint Leblanc ![]() ![]() Mario Gonzales ![]() ![]() Mike Croix ![]() ![]() Rob Valden ![]() ![]() Roger Wilkens ![]() ![]() Shane Parker ![]() ![]() Themo Diaz ![]() ![]() |
| Subject: OTTA 2008 | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:10:40 02/03/09 Tue With all the drama over the last few weeks, I thought we could take a quick trip down memory lane as a refresher. Here are some pictures of you that were taken in 2008. I think we should stop and take a minute and remember what a great year we had, it was a bit rocky at times but it was a great year for OTTA. We "all" did it. All of us! The question is, can we do it again????? I think so, so come on guys let take over Texas - Houston - Dallas - Odessa - Eddinburg - Crandal. We have come to far to stop now. OTTA Rules! (Ok, I had a little trouble sizing all the pictures the same, so please forgive me, I know I'm not perfect, but I try (lol) 2008 OTTA Points Champion Kenjo Kelly ![]() ![]() 2008 Points Runner Up Kyle Huettel ![]() ![]() More 2008 In alpha order Big Dustin ![]() ![]() Bobby Fry ![]() ![]() Brandon Fugler ![]() ![]() Brian Fitzgerold ![]() ![]() Brian Sandlin ![]() ![]() Chad Revia ![]() ![]() Don Dick ![]() ![]() Dustin Dubose ![]() ![]() Gary Peltier ![]() ![]() Jason Gibson ![]() ![]() Jimmy Gardner ![]() ![]() Justin Curry ![]() ![]() Justin Martin ![]() ![]() Kevin Cram ![]() ![]() klint Leblanc ![]() ![]() Mario Gonzales ![]() ![]() Mike Croix ![]() ![]() Rob Valden ![]() ![]() Roger Wildens ![]() ![]() Shane Parker ![]() ![]() Themo Diaz ![]() ![]() |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:24:59 02/03/09 Tue |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:42:01 02/03/09 Tue Just want everyone to understand that Bonnie And I love what we are and have been trying to do. We thought we could help you guys get what you wanted out of a race and we could be part of something GREAT. The tracks have to make a certain amount of money to open, pay there staff and turn on the lights. Like has been said it is a business for them and it is an expensive hobby for you. But it doesn't make since to have one without the other. When we book a race OTTA is the main show. However, it takes several classes and test in tuners to make it worth while to the tracks. They have to put on a show and allow for down time attractions. To keep fans coming.Those are additional cost for Bonnie and I. I want yall to understand that our main focus is OTTA. But when booking races it takes a plan not just one class alone can give the tracks what they need take the risk. This is why we push so hard for Ultimate Street to increase there involvement, have added indexs and allow test and tuners. The more car involvement = more spectator involvement = win for everyone.But realize that these thing don't come free. The cost are added expenses to her and I. Yet, still OTTA is the main focus. We have to pay these people for there show to. Because just like OTTA they have to have a reason to be there. With every race we have learned a valuable lesson and how to try to do it better for you guys.These learning curves come at our expense not anyone elses. So when we get upset snd defensive it because like I always say we are being questioned by the very people we are trying to help and promote. So sorry for wearing my feeling on my sleeve. But why does the money matter you are getting what you asked for and then some. Heck if you gualify it was free to be there. I KNOW THE GAS THE TIRES AND THE CAR COST !!!!! I AM NOT TRYING TO DISMISS YOUR RACING COST, BUT COME ON GUYS IT COST 1000.00 TO GO AND TEST FOR DATA ALONE. And as far as HRP they have not turned yall away they had a point when saying why do you want us to take the risk of 6500.00 when we could just take a risk at half that. Seth has never indicated that he doesn't want OTTA just that we need to come to agreement on the purse and sponsorships. We are still working on this guys... Bonnie and I just don't want to stand behind something that is not in the organizations best interest. When we put our name behind it we know for a fact that you will get paid and do everything in our power to make sure the race happens reguardless of how much money we or the tracks may make or lose. We work to help the organziation and are trying to keep it growing. As I said before the 6500.00 is a starting point for the 09 season and hopefully with full fields and added interest the sponsorships will come. |
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Author: Kevin Cram [Edit] |
Date Posted: 22:17:35 02/01/09 Sun .... |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:21:43 02/02/09 Mon It seems that HRG is saying that our events lost money at every event. That is a big laugh. The tracks never lost a dime on OTTA, we simply said that we work very hard and that we take the risk even if it means that it has to come out of our pocket. You can twist and turn this around in any way you want but the bottom line is, unless you are writing me a check to pay the bills, it really is none of your business. I WILL NOT ADRESS THIS AGAIN. OTTA is scheduled for a full season of racing in 2009, and the tracks are excited about having you. |
| [> [> [> Subject: and i quote Tracie from a post below," LAST YEAR WE LOST MONEY AND ALL OF YOU STILL GOT PAID." We never said you lost money...YOU TWO DID! | |
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Author: Shut Up and Race! [Edit] |
Date Posted: 22:25:03 02/02/09 Mon |
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Author: shut up and race [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:17:14 02/03/09 Tue |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: She said "TRACKS" | |
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Author: READ [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:42:01 02/03/09 Tue |
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Author: Derek Rustys son from dad/son [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:37:09 02/03/09 Tue im trying to get in touch with Dustin if thats the same younger dude that use to race at navasota with his pops with the black mustang i think old man frank was helping him out..i just got out the pen so as u can see its been awhile but uhm could you give me a call at 281 744 3011 or let me know if your going to be at hrp hmp anytime soon..im trying to get in touch with old friends of my dads so i can get back in the game been away awhile..bonnie an tracie if this is your site as everyone says it is if you dont mind could you let this post stay up cuz joe aint trying to let me post shit on his site...kinda despises my way of doing things...i'd appreciate it... |
| Subject: why do you all think people come watch us race | |
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Author: big dustin [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:18:35 02/02/09 Mon I want to ask everyone of the racers and fans that reads this board why they think people come watch us race do you think its because they want to see the straitest fasted 4sec car on true tens or is it becasue they want to watch us sky the hell out of the front end peddle the car to the other end shoot out flames outa the exaust & talk shit what do you all think |
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Author: LOUIS (SPECTATERS) [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:34:41 01/29/09 Thu >I want to ask everyone of the racers and fans that >reads this board why they think people come watch us >race > >do you think its because they want to see the >straitest fasted 4sec car on true tens > > or is it becasue they want to watch us sky the hell >out of the front end peddle the car to the other end >shoot out flames outa the exaust & talk shit > >what do you all think |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:56:43 01/29/09 Thu Dustin you got something to say than say it. It is not like you to beat around the bush. I am curious what everone thinks tooo. But, also think about this. If there is no CARS left there is no show. Oh! Not everyone is as good at being evil knevil as you. Those great shows you put on are hard to top. So with that said I as a spectator would like to see a FINISH WITH 2 CARS SIDE BY SIDE RACING to the finish. Before 3 am and no track oil downs. But thats my opion. I think I saw some advertisements a while back for some wheelie contest. Oh but 5000.00 min to enter just what it cost to rebuild your car after the BIG SHOW!!!!! |
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Author: Bryan Sandlin [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:41:14 01/29/09 Thu People come to watch tt5 for the same reason they come to watch top fuel, funny car, pro stock, pro mod or any other form of heads up racing. To see fast side by side racing with cars going all over the track blowing up catching fire and pulling the chutes. Seeing how we changed the rules for a couple of cars with endless pockets i beleive the show will be less of one. Just my opinion which apparently means nothing (REMEMBER THE SO CALLED MEETING). By the way girls, you need to go to an ORSCA race and see how many people are in the stands having a great time watching fast cars going crazy down a track. Glad Dustin has the balls to voice his opinion, and not go to the dark side. Thanks for the space. |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 17:56:26 01/29/09 Thu Yes I think the east coast has one hell of a show. But as we said in the meeting we are NOT orsca. Yes I have been to an orsca race and yes the stands were full. Yes there were several different classes at those races. We are TRYING TO HELP NOT HINDER THE CLASS. IF YOU FEEL THAT WE ARE HINDERING THE OUTLAW TRUE TENS IN TEXAS THAN JUST SAY SO. We have always tried to use the best judgement and fairest rules. For that matter just tried to help... Why is it that they (orsca) allow outlaw 10'5 to run wheelie bars and not the limited street class? your car is as fast yet heavier and smaller tires is this not more dangerous? But can see that we are spinning our wheels so I will talk to Bonnie and suggest we turn theses race back over to you guys.. Have a great year!!!!!!! |
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Author: Lamar [Edit] |
Date Posted: 18:25:28 01/29/09 Thu Why are we still crying over the rules.RULES ARE RULES IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM......STAY HOME |
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Author: Bryan Sandlin [Edit] |
Date Posted: 19:14:26 01/29/09 Thu Didn't know any one was crying about rules ,i thought we were wondering how to get fans in the stands.How come erery time someone voices there opinion in this association you people get your feathers ruffled and wont to quite . |
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Author: Darin [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:12:01 01/29/09 Thu The rules are what they are. I am not at the level of the big boys. Car has never seen a 4 anything. I look forward to racing this year.... BUT, after reading Bonnie's post it kind of set me back. I was already hesitant in running many of the south Texas races. Now after reading her post makes me wonder if I want to spend my money with her at all. Her comment is not something I would expect from someone trying to get new members. Maybe I took it wrong, or she was having a bad day. Since I am a new driver I will use the bars. If I fell ok and the car works like it should then I will take advantage of the 50 lb wt break. Thanks OTTA for the 2nd chance race. It helps guys like me. So to all the other NEW GUYS that might be on the fence about racing with OTTA I say come on. Give it a chance. Atleast if you run me you know you aint running a 4 second car. |
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Author: Darin [Edit] |
Date Posted: 20:16:22 01/29/09 Thu >The rules are what they are. I am not at the level of >the big boys. Car has never seen a 4 anything. I look >forward to racing this year.... BUT, after reading >Bonnie's post it kind of set me back. I was already >hesitant in running many of the south Texas races. Now >after reading her post makes me wonder if I want to >spend my money with her at all. Her comment is not >something I would expect from someone trying to get >new members. Maybe I took it wrong, or she was having >a bad day. >Since I am a new driver I will use the bars. If I fell >ok and the car works like it should then I will take >advantage of the 50 lb wt break. Thanks OTTA for the >2nd chance race. It helps guys like me. So to all the >other NEW GUYS that might be on the fence about racing >with OTTA I say come on. Give it a chance. Atleast if >you run me you know you aint running a 4 second car. |
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Author: BONNIE WEBB [Edit] |
Date Posted: 22:37:49 01/29/09 Thu ORSCA! The name seems to keep coming up! Why don't one of you give David Reese (ORSCA) a call and ask him how he broke his back last year. I believe he will tell you that his car went up and came down on a gaurd rail... Oh and by the way -- I was standing there when it happened and when they put him in the ambulance as he proceeded to tell me that his butt was hurting and I also talked to him the next day in the hospital to find out his back was broke. But hey: he was and is one the one of the fastest limited street guys out there in ORSCA, he tried to switch last year and run promod but since they "FUSED" his back together the clutch is too hard and causes him a lot of pain. Maybe ORSCA needs to re-think thier rules or does a few people have to DIE FIRST. The rules were created when LIMITED STREET were running high 5's not MID 4....'s I was also at an NHRA event when MY FRIEND Steve Engles hit the wall and broke his neck basically which he did not recover. That's rite, HE DIED from the accident a few months ago! Oh and guess what! NHRA set the rules up many years ago and it took several people to DIE before they said "NO MORE QTR MILE" " YOU Racers are going to fast for this distance" and pushed it back to 3/4 of the track. How many of you have to get hurt or even DIE before you think that the Wheelie Bar issue should be in your own hands. I am not willing to stand there and watch you get hurt before I speak out. "Thats not going to the dark side". I also spoke to Dustin tonight who seems concerned about where the sponsor money is going. You really need to ask where it is coming from becuase it sure is not you out there finding it so if we don't find it for you, who will? And how many hours do you think goes into just closing ONE DEAL. And how much is our commission off of those deals ZIP, NOTA, 0000.00 NOT ONE DIME! But that's ok we don't need a life. We have worked all these deals so that you have a place to race and it seems there is some confusion about the difference between "Backing and Sponsoring" Just because I have the backing to cover the race does not mean that I have a funds to cover. We bust our asses all the way to race day to find a way to get you paid and guess what we get in return.....? THAT CORRECT, This kind of crap.... We don't even get our gas covered to go out there and work all day so that you can have a place to race...... "WE DO IT FOR THE SAME REASON THAT YOU DO -- WE LOVE THE SPORT -- not to mention the countless hours that we spend trying to get you the funding. Now you have a chance to race in Dallas with the Purse Covered and you make commits about the money. Hell I had to nigoiate with them today to get them to purchase the trophys and to cover the admin cost for you RPM coverage so that the expense would not come out of my pocket and again I get to buy my own gas to get there so you can race. It amazes me that you think money to cover your purse just falls from the sky. And what is your point about ORSCA spectators... That is where it started and we are trying to get there but it takes time and money or perhaps you can just go out there and do it better, I will be happy to step away and let you take a pop at it if you think it is so easy. Not a problem in the world here in doin that, OH YEA! I did step aside in NOVEMBER and even made a commitment to work the ADRL full time this year when my phone did not stop ringing... but if you want to give it a shot just say so and I will get the hell out of your way... And by the way Darrin We "The Girls" BONNIE AND TRACIE, HIGH VELOCITY IMPACT RACING put up the money for the 2nd chance race - NOT OTTA. At what point do you think we should say enough is enough.... |
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Author: Webb [Edit] |
Date Posted: 23:37:56 01/29/09 Thu You can stop blamming the Wheelie Bar issue on the endless pockets... In fact why don't you take a pole on the OCSCA board and find out how many of them got a call from me to discuss the issue.... I spent a whole week on the phone calling ORSCA members as well as members of other organizations who I hold nothing but respect for in order to make a decission. I then called each one of YOUR committee members and told them that I would not allow you to vote about the removal of the bars. "That's rite, I did not even ask you Committee members" Now ask yourself why... No matter what they said, you were going to blam them. I assure you that my decission came for many conversations with ORSCA and as far as going to an ORSCA race, just remeber that I was born and raised in Atlanta Georgia by a racer. I have seen More East Coast races than I have Gulf Coast. And I seen a lot of my friends get hurt during my 3 year tour with NHRA and IHRA. So if you want more than a 50lb break for no bars vote on it, I don't care, that is all in your hands... But don't throw around ORSCA because ORSCA was where I gather the majority of the information which made the deciding factor. |
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Author: Madman [Edit] |
Date Posted: 04:46:26 01/30/09 Fri Bonnie, my driver and Shane Stack were the first people to David when he crashed and broke his back. The race wasnt and ORSCA race it was at Phenix City. Wheelie bars wouldnt have helped at all in that situation. He crashed at the finishline and hit the cable that holds the light pole up. As for the wheelie bar deal I dont run them on our cars but I dont care if the guy in the other lane has them. Bonnie you and Tracy have done a great job with OTTA and we look forward to hitting some races this year. |
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Author: ******* [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:18:14 01/30/09 Fri |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:47:25 01/30/09 Fri Darin I would hope that my thoughts would not keep you from running with Otta. Believe me when I say that there is a certain few that we (Bonnie and I) just cant seem to make happy. Even though those people were the ones that we decided to come back and do it again for. So don't let my words keep you from running with the group. I don't forsee my involvement in the organization in the 09 racing season |
| [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: They were running ORSCA rules.... and it was all the ORSCA cars there. I do believe the bars would have helped him but if nothing more it was an eye opener for me | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:03:47 01/30/09 Fri |
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Author: kenny wolfe [bad habit racing] [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:25:56 02/02/09 Mon Track Management want to have thier cake and eat it too forsay,When HMP brought in KOTH,FSTA,S&S the organzations had to furnish thier OWN money,so management was in a win/win position=gate money,concession money and so on then someone will say oh they had expenses,lights,ins.track prep and so on but they were going to be OPEN anyway,so instead of having 10 people in the stands and 20 T&T cars in the pits they were packed!Freddie took his show to HRP on Thanksgiving weekend,so turnout was light so in normal clash style the purse was cut,but with the racers allready there werent going to pack up and go home so the race went ON=records being set and great side by side action[THANK YOU RACERS!}but mgmt sees this and says this happened for this amount of money why should we PAY more!OUR promoters come in with every racer in the org. in mind say no THIS type of show will cost this much so th B/S begins!Other tracks see the potental of the org.and its promoters and are willing to PAY the price!HOUSTON tracks just want something for nothing!Bonnie and Tracie work thier butts off to get us [the racers] these RACES and all some people want to know is if they put a FUCKING dime in thier pocket,who pays for thier TIME,GAS,PHONES and GRIEF [bitching @ the race they have to put up with]?NOBODY!THANK YOU GIRLS!!!ps tracie our car is legal and Jason and I worked our butts off last year at the races while we were upgrading our car even if YOU don't remember!ps Big D don't quit just because you skeeeeerd!!!!!Also some of you who go out early or dont have a car at the race might check with the girls to see if they need any HELP instead of bitching its taking too long!!!!!!! |
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Author: Guaranteed [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:33:18 02/01/09 Sun HMP puts up all the purse for KOTH and S&S and guarantees the purse for all its races. Its their risk. Maybe instead of blaming the tracks, look at history and find a solution. If it was so profitable to have OTTA, why did HRP stop doing it. No business stops doing something they make money at. The purse come from the gate. By the posts below, the girls just guarantee it if there aint enough at the gate. If the gate covers the purse and not much else, the girls aint out nothin and the track makes nothin. Seems like there shoudl be a solution somewhere where the racers get the purse and the tracks make money. Everyone gets pissed if a race track makes money but they are a business. Most racers do it for a hobby. We can call it a business and convince our CPA that it is but no local racer is making a prifit from racing. We do it cause we love it. Racetracks are a business, they do it to make money just the same as any other business. Rather than bithcing why dont everyone focus on finding a solution. OTTA aint gonna grow if the Houston tracks aint involved. Just askin? |
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Author: simple enough [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:13:49 02/01/09 Sun Beings that Hmps guarantees the purse wouldn't that explain that everytime there is or was a lack in spectators that the cancelled the race. Or while racers were in route the would call and explain how they were going to cut the purse.. What sort of gurantee is that? We need someone to step up and take the risk for us don't we? What does it really matter to anyone? If there is a race for the amount that we agrees is worth running for why does it matter who is making money or losing money. I SAY SHUT UP AND RACE !! I THINK YOU GIRLS ARE DOING AND GREAT JOB... OH AND HERE IS MY THANK YOU |
| [> [> Subject: From What I here, HMP schedule 8 races for True 10 with a Guaranteed purse of 1500.00 if there is a 16 car field... WOW! | |
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Author: Just Saying [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:33:13 02/01/09 Sun Thanks girls, |
| [> [> [> Subject: Yea, not even your tech card money back if there is a 16 car field, and I heard that HRP guaranty Fredy's race, that the purse was cur in half. | |
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Author: . [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:37:50 02/01/09 Sun |
| [> [> [> [> Subject: ONLY THING I KNOW IS, PEOPLE SINK ALL THIS MONEY IN THEIR CAR AND EXPECT ALL THESE BIG PAYOUTS WHEN OUR ECONOMY IS SO BAD AND THEM WANT ALL THIS MONEY FOR PAYOUTS WHEN THIS SHIT IS A GAMBLE FROM THE START. IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT! GET OUT OF IT! WE ALL LOVE SEEING YOU GUYS RUN ON THE EDGE, BUT, LOOK IN THE STANDS, PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD YOU AT THIS TIME! | |
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Author: DONALD TRUMP [Edit] |
Date Posted: 05:20:50 02/02/09 Mon |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I don't know what track you went to Donald, but the OTTA races have never had empty stands. | |
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Author: Ivana Trump [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:25:56 02/02/09 Mon |
| Subject: HAVE FUNN | |
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Author: BIG DUSTIN [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:10:32 02/01/09 Sun WELL LOOK AS YOU SAID Beat a dead horse you will fuck up a wet dream and turn shit around I DEFENDED YOUR ASS LAST YEAR WHEN EVERYONE ACUSED YOU AND BONNIE OF STEELING im tired of defending you and her the only damn thing I wanted was for you to make it clear where and how the sponsor ship was working to everyone else I don’t give a shit AND WHY THE HELL WOULD WE WANT TO DRIVE TO DALLAS FOR A FUCKN SECOND CHANCE RACE Take the second chance race out adjust the main thing that makes everyone go fast the wheelie bars YALL HAVE FUN THIS YEAR IM OUT BEAT UP ON SOMEONE ELSE STICK YOUR CLASS PONITS AND ATTITUDE UP YOUR ASS AND KEEP THE 200$$$ FOR MY MEMBERSHIP JUST SAY I DONATED TO THE JUST AND KYLE FUND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| [> Subject: Why is anyone questioning the money? You get paid and that is all that matters. Did any of you ever toss them a 20 to get something to eat on the way home after a 18 hour day. I seen them tossing around 100's to people that help them out on race day to get them something to eat. | |
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Author: get a grip here! [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:36:49 01/30/09 Fri |
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Author: Tracie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:43:59 01/30/09 Fri Dustin no one is trying to beat you up. It is that maybe Bonnie and I do take it personally when the same question keeps getting asked. And yes you were the one that asked it. Yes, I know you defended us last year. That is what I am talking about defended us for what. The season starts out with a race it is planned and it is up to Bonnie and I to make sure that if we put on a 6500.00 purse it is there at the end of the race even if it comes from our on personal check book. I know that if the question is being asked than it has not been explained to the full understanding of everyone. So here goes. We want to put on a race so we book dates and work out arrangments with tracks to put them on. Last year Bonnie and I were completely responsible for all of the Otta payouts. The tracks did not put in any money towards the purse. Yes at times when available there would be sponsorship which helped out with the 6500.00. and of course the tech card money went toward this payout. So lets say we got a 16 car field and 1000.00 in sponsorships than that would be 6500.00 less 2600.00 leaving bonnie and i on the hook for 3900.00.. We than come up with the rest with a portion of the gate whatever the track and HIGH VELOCITY agreed on. With that we pay the rest of the purse, the help that we have, and the radio, and the media expense and trophies.. If there is something left over than that is how we get paid if not or we are short we have to come up with it ourselves. Yes the dallas races are far yet they want yall and agreed to pay the purse. So it is for yall. We WILL make nothing for these races. We will just be there to organize. The local tracks are still in negotiations and have not been finalized We understand that yall do not want to travel to dallas 5 times so we are and have been still working on other options. Wheelie bars please explain to me because apparently i am ignorant to this. How it is going to slow anyone down for long.. So the second chance race is put into place to make sure that while helping the car count that you have now two chance where as you use to only have one against the fast cars. I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO RUIN IT FOR THE SLOWER GUYS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE UNLIMITED FUNDS THAT OTHERS DO. I would hope that are goal this year is not to stop at 6500.00 for a purse but to use that as a starting point to grow. We have tried to look out for everyone. |
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Author: big will [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:10:06 01/30/09 Fri i like the 2cd chance race,i am also not one of the faster cars but will try my best.i like wheelie bars as well. |
| [> Subject: The Just and Kyle show.. That cracks me up! | |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 10:47:30 01/30/09 Fri Do you not remember all the blow ups and rentals and burn ups that Justin went through just to get to the race to support the class.. Both of these guys were willing to make what ever scrafice was needed to not hurt the class. Justin offered not to run his new car here and go to the east coast with it and just run the old car here and Kyle said that he would take the bars off if that was what it takes to save the class. Neither of them ever looked out for themselves in any conversations that we had, they always looked out for what was good for everyone else. You keep mentioning them but I am pretty sure that Rob and Kenjo has been faster than both of them. I know that there is somemore heavy hitters planning to race with you. I would not doubt that by the end of the year, we will have to split the field and have a Turbo class and a Nitrous class. We should be growing not hindering. The more we grow the more we can put our own price tag on the event. I don't remember exactly what the payout was here in the Houston area prior to OTTA but I know that it was increased from the past True 10 races at the very first OTTA race and here we are going into the 2009 season with another increase in payout. Do we really want to go back to the way it was or do we want to find a way to grow bigger and stronger each year? If OTTA wants to survive we have to find a way to grow, but we have to do it safly. Dustin I am sorry that I hurt your feelings last night but when you started talking about the money situation it really upset me. It seems that you do not have a clue what we go through to make sure that you get paid at every race and never do we worry about us. We have been trying to build an organization that can stand on its own with out every body having to pay for their own race and running for their own money. We have worked very hard to show and prove to the tracks that you are worth the purse and now we are seeing the results from that. I spend many hours a week dedicated to making this a good event and making sure you get paid and all anyone seems to care about is if I am making money off you. Quite frankly, I should be making money for the efforts that I put into these races. Do you think that Johnny Finn for Freddy Cruz do it for free. I guess the reason we get so defensive about the money is because we are ones personally taking all the financial risk yet we get questioned constantly. This is our money, not the tracks not the sponsors but our money. Those of you that constantly question the money are not taking on the risk and we understand that building a racecar is taking a risk but it is a double edged sword. No money + No Tracks + no cars = No Race. No body is trying to be ugly here but I just don't understand why we have to keep covering this issue. Some body has to do the front work for you to have a race but it doesn't make since to me that you think I should have to pay you to work hard for you. This is crazy. I don't know anyone else that goes to work for free, This is our choice of communty service. A simple Thank you would be fine, but that seems to be to complicated. |
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Author: Google man [Edit] |
Date Posted: 07:56:06 01/31/09 Sat From what I keep reading here is that stamping on the girls feet, and not saying they are sorry. Inspecting them to say ouch, and go on. After reading the complete thread of this situation. HAVE ANY ONE NOTICE THAT ALL THE RACES ARE OUT OF TOWN, WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH OUR HOME TRACKS. WHY ARE TRACKS UP NORTH ARE WILLING TO PAY THE PURSES AND HOUSTON TRACK WANT TO GIVE OUT CHEESE AND CRACKERS. This was supposed to be an Houston base organization, that would supposed to draw other racers accross the nation to come race in Houston. We are jumping on the wrong folks, we need to find out why our tracks down here don't support us and work with our promoters to help things run smoothly. And we worry about what the promoters are putting in their pockets, we are worrying about the wrong thing. Everyone is scraping over some doggone wheelie bars, this is not going to make the class any better nor worse. Its not going to make the class more equal in comparity. But in some cases will destroy some cars and less to race for the class. We need to really evaluate the rules more closely. Letting the NOS small blocks running at 2700 lbs. is not going to pick those guys up to run 4.60's, and the cars that are these speeds are running 3200. Every racers need to look at their own program to get with the pack. Look at this, the upper OTTA, racers are really showing a bad example for the Ultimate Street class. There is no bitching over there, just waiting on the Upper class to get their act together. Do they need to pull out, or stay with the crap that is going on. ???? |
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Author: ON LOOKERS [Edit] |
Date Posted: 08:04:37 01/31/09 Sat DALLAS IS TRYING TO STEAL THE SHOW BACK, WITH US COMING UP THERE. MORE MONEY, MORE CARS, MORE SPECTATORS. HOUSTON HAD ITS CHANCE TO GET THINGS GOING, AND THEY ARE SCREWING UP. |
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Author: Bonnie [Edit] |
Date Posted: 09:05:21 01/31/09 Sat No body is trying to steal anything, they are trying to be part of something great. The races in Dallas will be OTTA races controlled by OTTA with OTTA rules OTTA payouts and OTTA committee members in charge. They Will be OTTA races |
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Author: Just Sayin! [Edit] |
Date Posted: 11:04:46 01/31/09 Sat Word I hear from both Houston Tracks is the PROMOTERS are the problem on why the Houston tracks dont want anything to do with OTTA. |
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Author: That seems simple enough, [Edit] |
Date Posted: 13:42:45 01/31/09 Sat |
| [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: PROMOTERS to step out of the picture and all the Houston Tracks will book OTTA and give them a 6500 purse. | |
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Author: On looker [Edit] |
Date Posted: 16:59:06 01/31/09 Sat Have heard the promotors say that they would step out of the way, The tracks just still want to feed cracker & cheese. You might get some peanut butter. They had their chance before the season start to come on out and get the best of Texas to be their own show. HMP & HRP, is jealous of each other on who's going to make more money. They will not work with each other. So the racers suffer and have to other places to race. I would think that everytime OTTA hits the magazine, and records are broken, it was done at my track when these things happen. A little track like Evadale atleast they are trying to keep them racing there. There facility is not the top notch as other tracks but they get it done in everyway possible. So don't down the girls for trying to make a place to race. It's a cruel world out there. And damn we got to live in it. Lets go racing. Girls when you get something going stick to it don't play in and out of the game, you got racers that are watching and listening to everything that you do. |
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Author: kenny wolfe[bad habit racing] [Edit] |
Date Posted: 06:10:32 02/01/09 Sun Track Management want to have thier cake and eat it too forsay,When HMP brought in KOTH,FSTA,S&S the organzations had to furnish thier OWN money,so management was in a win/win position=gate money,concession money and so on then someone will say oh they had expenses,lights,ins.track prep and so on but they were going to be OPEN anyway,so instead of having 10 people in the stands and 20 T&T cars in the pits they were packed!Freddie took his show to HRP on Thanksgiving weekend,so turnout was light so in normal clash style the purse was cut,but with the racers allready there werent going to pack up and go home so the race went ON=records being set and great side by side action[THANK YOU RACERS!}but mgmt sees this and says this happened for this amount of money why should we PAY more!OUR promoters come in with every racer in the org. in mind say no THIS type of show will cost this much so th B/S begins!Other tracks see the potental of the org.and its promoters and are willing to PAY the price!HOUSTON tracks just want something for nothing!Bonnie and Tracie work thier butts off to get us [the racers] these RACES and all some people want to know is if they put a FUCKING dime in thier pocket,who pays for thier TIME,GAS,PHONES and GRIEF [bitching @ the race they have to put up with]?NOBODY!THANK YOU GIRLS!!!ps tracie our car is legal and Jason and I worked our butts off last year at the races while we were upgrading our car even if YOU don't remember!ps Big D don't quit just because you skeeeeerd!!!!! |

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