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• fairy reel help -- brigid, 20:51:37 05/18/13 Sat [3]
  so now im reading through the fairy reel think i get it. watch a video and it made me sit up and refer back to the book, thinking oh this video is wrong. hmmm. I watch a dif video and it has it the way i THOUGHt it was. BUT as I reread the book im thinking now im missreading it again.
  for slip sides has
  partners (lady on rt) facing take rt hands sidestep and 3s to gents LEFT & back(free dancer to right and back.)
  THEN gent turns to lady on left. movement repeated with partner on left, other partner dancing to left and back.
  I automatically assumed the couple was then sidestepping to the right. but it doesnt say that. it says repeat and only specifies direction of the lone lady. I see videos of it as i thought i understood it with sidestep to left then to right. now i see another one with each couple dancing to the left,which is a very specific interpretation of the book actually. so im asking, which is the right way? how is it generally accepted? anyone get it on the exam? how was it to be danced?
  damn ambiguous wording!
  

  
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  • Gent dances to his left and back the first time, and to his right the second time. (NT) -- cp, 02:47:30 05/19/13 Sun
  • Think about it this way: each time, the gent and lady sidestep towards the other line of three, while the free partner sidesteps to the original position of the other lady in her own line. (NT) -- ., 09:22:29 05/19/13 Sun

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• Footwork in Ceili Dancing -- cp, 18:09:59 05/16/13 Thu [6]
  When making sure that everyone is on the correct foot, I have been using the rule, that each time a new movement within a dance is commenced (generally speaking, as I know there are exceptions)then it should be commenced with the right foot. So, for example, after having danced the Four Sevens in the 4 Hand Reel, gents have their left foot in front, and so to commence the "Hands Across" movement, they would need to switch to the right foot. Is this correct?
  

  
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  • The "rule" (and I can't think of any exceptions off the top of my head) is odd counts are R foot skips and even counts are L foot skips. In the specific example you cited, yes, the gents would need "cheat" their footwork to get from the L sevens to the R skip to begin hands across (NT) -- co, TC, 18:15:46 05/16/13 Thu
    • Great! Thanks, one of the "exceptions" if you can really call it that, that I was thinking of is when, again in the 4 hand, the Down the Centre movement is performed, the lady would stay on the left foot to commence. (NT) -- cp, 19:37:59 05/16/13 Thu
      • Well, with sevens, you would put whatever foot in front that you need to to go in the direction you want to travel as you'd never do sevens to the R with the L foot in front. I would think about which foot dancers have in front in terms of where they are moving if they are doing sevens. The R, L "rule" I was talking about above is just for skip 3s or over 23s (NT) -- co, TC, 21:20:07 05/16/13 Thu
      • My TC has us start the skip23s on right foot, regardless of which foot you have in front at the end of the side step. -- --, 03:04:25 05/19/13 Sun
  • I was taught that unless stated otherwise, every new movement should commence with the right foot. (NT) -- Good Luck, 12:16:46 05/18/13 Sat

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• I was wondering what is required for the solo dancing portion of the exam. I'm a good student and can do tests under pressure but not so much for dancing under stress. It would be great if I knew what to expect. -- TCRG hopeful., 15:57:46 04/18/13 Thu [14]
  I know I have to have soft and hard shoe steps prepared for all dances and different levels, 6 modern sets and 7 traditionals. But I still have the following questions:
  - Are you dancing by yourself in front of the panel, or are there other candidates as well? I could imagine you'd need a breather between dances at some point. Are there more candidates and are they having you take turns?
  - How long is the practical exam? Is soft shoe and hard shoe separate with a break? (again, because you might need to catch your breath).
  - My TC says OC level is not necessary as long as you have good technique, good rhythm and are able to teach. I can actually teach OC steps, it's just that my execution isn't top notch. What do you ladies and gents think?
  
  I would really appreciate you feedback. I already have my TMRF and would love to get my TCRG as well. It's quite an investment with travel that's involved and I'd like to be prepared as much as possible if I do go for it.
  

  
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  • This is how it works... -- ..., 16:39:10 04/18/13 Thu
    • Thank you so much for your explanation. Couldn't have been clearer, much appreciated. (NT) -- TCRG hopeful., 17:29:19 04/18/13 Thu
      • When I took my exam the first time, we did our trads after everyone did their contemporary sets, the second go around, we did trads first, then contemporary, so while you'll do the same thing, the order may be slightly different (NT) -- Good luck!, 23:09:33 04/18/13 Thu
    • I was in a group of 4 for the whole thing - there can be a lot of variability - don't plan on having too many more than 3 as a break between steps (NT) -- stamina~~!, 21:35:09 04/18/13 Thu
      • 3 inbetween should be fine, trads in a row would be fine too. I was more worried of having to do my modern sets in a row, they allways seem to take it out of me :) (NT) -- TCRG hopefull, 07:45:25 04/19/13 Fri
        • Pick shorter sets :) I saw girls attempting Downfall at 76 and who put both Blackthorn and Drunken on their lists, and I just thought why? It's not a competition, the judges know within two bars whether you can dance or not so keep it simple and don't make things difficult for yourself. Better to do shorter sets and not die at the end. (NT) -- ., 09:30:45 04/19/13 Fri
          • Great tip. I was actually thinking of doing that :) (NT) -- --, 10:08:30 04/19/13 Fri
          • I had those longer sets on my list, simply because I had just finished competing,knew them well, and could still do them. I was asked to do my 2 longest and 1 shortest.I know it's situational, that's just what they had me do. Put down whatever you are comfortable with. (NT) -- Atl., 14:57:56 04/19/13 Fri
            • Ok, but the poster said they struggled to get through their sets which is why I suggested switching to shorter ones. (NT) -- ., 15:34:58 04/19/13 Fri
              • True, I can understand picking those dances you know best even if they're longer but the reality is I'll have to start from scratch, so I'll probably pick the shorter ones ;) (NT) -- OP, 19:01:37 04/19/13 Fri
  • I guess there are regional differences, as in; every exam organising region will have it's own method. Different orders is not the problem, it's just the idea of knowing I'll likely have time inbetween steps to think about the next dance. For example, I tend to swap the first bar of Job of Journeywork with Garden of Daisies and it's great if you don't have to do it on the spot.. (NT) -- TCRG hopefull, 07:51:33 04/19/13 Fri
  • my experience -- b, 21:21:39 05/18/13 Sat
    • What a lovely answer, thank you. Makes me feel more confident. (NT) -- TO, 21:44:04 05/18/13 Sat

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• Has anyone set up their class before passing their exam? -- ?, 12:00:11 02/11/13 Mon [3]
  What did you tell parents etc? Can you get insurance and CRB checks without being part of Coimisiun?
  

  
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  • Yes, I was teaching for about a year before I got my TCRG...it's nerve wracking for sure! I was very frank with the parents--but I put a positive spin on it. I explained to parents that I was preparing for an exam that would allow my students to compete in a certain type of competitions. Since they were all new to Irish dance, the concept didn't really register with most of them, but they were all very supportive! Regarding insurance--that is totally separate form the CLRG. You are required to have it to be a teacher, but you do not need to provide proof of certification in order to get insurance. (NT) -- Now a TCRG :), 18:42:47 02/21/13 Thu
  • yes -- b, 21:37:51 05/18/13 Sat

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• I'm thinking about taking the test in Ireland sometime next year. I don't speak Irish, but if I were to take the test there, would I have to complete the Irish language portion of the test? -- Thanks, 15:17:36 04/05/13 Fri [3]
  
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  • The Irish portion is only for people who intend to teach in Ireland - doesn't matter where you take it, if you're not going to teach in Ireland then you don't do this part. Someone from Dublin intending to teach in Dublin would still do the Irish even if they took the exam in Australia :) (NT) -- ., 15:39:50 04/05/13 Fri
  • only if you teach in ireland -- b, 21:30:52 05/18/13 Sat

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• If anyone danced Garden for the exam and passed, would you be interested in sharing your version? I tried my version but was informed that I did not dance the set in the traditional manner. Want to get it right this time. Thanks. -- studying, 14:29:12 04/20/13 Sat [11]
  
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  • I did but I don't want to post video - see inside. -- ., 10:12:19 04/21/13 Sun
    • Thank you very much. This helps a lot. The version I used did not have crosskeys either. Could you also post the words for the step portion of the set? Thanks. (NT) -- op, 15:31:01 04/21/13 Sun
      • Same as the Olive version :) (NT) -- Above poster, 15:35:24 04/21/13 Sun
        • Great! Thank you. (NT) -- op, 16:19:24 04/21/13 Sun
  • I danced Garden in my exam and danced it identically to Olive Hurleys version. And passed. (NT) -- Sarah, 13:35:00 04/21/13 Sun
    • Thanks. Good to know. The crosskey is what worries me. (NT) -- op, 15:27:00 04/21/13 Sun
  • Is the version with the cross-key and "skiing" move acceptable though? That's the way I learned. (NT) -- taking in Limerick!, 19:15:05 04/21/13 Sun
  • Yes mine has cross keys. I did it with 7 other candidates who all danced the same version with cross keys and we all passed. (NT) -- Sarah, 23:55:14 04/21/13 Sun
    • First poster here - the others I danced with did the cross-key Olive version and at least one of them passed. I was the only one that did the point/cut and brush 234 version. (NT) -- ., 11:13:51 04/22/13 Mon
  • they accet different versions, are they "trad" dunno -- b, 21:10:37 05/18/13 Sat

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• Does anyone know, -- ready to pass., 16:29:08 04/25/13 Thu [4]
  Will there be another north american exam available? and when? I didn't make it into atlanta.
  

  
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  • For the past couple of years, there is one in January in LA (NT) -- Hope for one later in the fall!, 16:38:40 04/25/13 Thu
  • I wouldn't rule Atlanta out yet! I applied for Atlanta last february and didn't hear that I had gotten into the exam until almost July! It was a scramble for sure to get ready but I did it! (NT) -- Passed :), 21:14:49 04/27/13 Sat
  • atlanta is posted -- b, 21:07:26 05/18/13 Sat

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• Wages? -- New TCRG, 15:20:21 04/12/13 Fri [10]
  How many of you are paid by the student?
  
  How many of you are paid by the hour?
  
  I am not planning on making Irish dancing my full-time job. It's a healthy part-time job.
  
  The board of my school (it is a non-profit) has asked me to find out what "market rates" for wages for TCRGs are like.
  
  
  Currently, I make $20 an hour, and teach approximately 10 hours per week. I am not paid by the student, but instead by the non-profit.
  
  How does it work for you, new colleagues?
  

  
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  • well, when I first started, I was offered $15.per hour by tc. -- for 5 hours per week teaching, 21:30:32 04/23/13 Tue
  • I make $18 per hour. Not paid by student or anything like that. However, I think that is pretty undermarket. Most tap/ballet/jazz teachers are getting more like $25-30 I'd say. Check out dance.net for a recent discussion in the teacher's section about pay rates (NT) -- new TC, 21:35:06 04/23/13 Tue
  • Isn't this going to vary greatly by where you live? I'm in a high cost of living area and make more at my regular job than I would if I lived somewhere else. (NT) -- sr, 15:25:34 04/24/13 Wed
  • Don't know about the 25 to 30 per hour in our area. (NT) -- most make much less here, 21:24:21 04/24/13 Wed
  • Try checking other local dance studios and similar classes... find out what they pay instructors, and compare the credentials and the student tuition costs. -- Aine, 19:39:22 04/26/13 Fri
  • Totally agree this is very geographical. I'd say the average new TC (or other dance teacher) makes $15-$25 an hour starting salary, depending on cost of living (and thus cost of student tuition). (NT) -- check studios in your area, 04:38:56 05/03/13 Fri
  • Pay -- Ro, 00:52:16 05/05/13 Sun
    • You were very, very well paid, Ro - How many dancers did you teach for that? (NT) -- x, 12:18:50 05/18/13 Sat
  • is it your own business or some1 elses? -- 0euu, 21:02:35 05/18/13 Sat

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• neurotic detailed question Haste to the Wedding driving me NUTS -- brigid, 22:05:55 05/17/13 Fri [5]
  Im studying to retake ceili teaching. overall feel MUCH better this time. But in teaching the simple dance Haste to the Wedding Im having difficulty with a detail and perhaps im reading too much into it or over thinking it and im hoping to get some help and tghat i can type to explain it sufficiently. I will say i dont have a video to follow ive searched you tube and with only 3 weeks left i wouldnt be able to order a video in time. If anyone nows of one onyoutube thats accurate please forward it to me...
  the set up is same as walls of limerick as I understand it.(?)
  couples numbered off from top of room BUT evens being tops.
  The even couple takes both crossed hands and dance up the center sidestep and back then takes in the other lade (lady #1 or odd lady) for a ring to the right, then gent etc...
  my hang up is...the odd lady is to be taken into the circle on even gents left hand (book states specifically partner is on gents right) in order for that to happen with the positions or dance set up as i have it understood either, the top (even) couple would have to slightly turn so that lady would be on correct side of gent, the odd lady would have to dance into them somehow and rotate herself around, our my ideea of the set up of the dance is somehow flawed (which is likely) and then the same problem presents itself with the 2nd ring with the gent.
  anyone?
  

  
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  • nevermind -- brigid, 22:16:57 05/17/13 Fri
  • Don't think it says take crossed hands. An examiner told me that at dances with open hands to make getting into the rings easier. (NT) -- TC, 17:19:18 05/18/13 Sat
    • I did this dance in my exam, hand the dancers take right hands not both, and they did not correct me. I don't think it's both hands at all for Up the Centre. (NT) -- ., 19:48:40 05/18/13 Sat
      • the book is ambiguous -- brigid, 20:41:57 05/18/13 Sat

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• Any ideas when a ceili workshop might be held in the US? -- --, 16:33:13 05/16/13 Thu [5]
  
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  • I know this isn't what you asked but have you looked into the Marie Duffy workshop? Google Marie Duffy Foundation and look at the awards page. (NT) -- ., 10:10:16 05/17/13 Fri
    • Thanks for the idea - would love to go to that seminar but can't afford it!!! Good to know about though ... (NT) -- --, 21:10:14 05/17/13 Fri
  • Mary McElroy told me there aren't any planned right now. I was hoping before the Sept exam. (NT) -- E, 18:02:48 05/17/13 Fri
    • Bummer ... I'd love to attend one before retaking the ceili teaching. :( (NT) -- --, 21:12:24 05/17/13 Fri

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• Who signed your TCRG application form? -- L, 18:20:18 05/17/13 Fri [1]
  I am just wondering who usually signs the form, because in my case I can imagine my current TC not signing because she doesn't want to have any competition for her school in the future. (I live in an area with VERY few schools). What would you do if that were the case? Can you just approach any TC and ask them to sign for you?
  

  
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• Can Someone Please post where all the mistakes are in the Olive Hurley videos ? -- thanks, 19:22:49 05/07/13 Tue [7]
  
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  • There is no "list" of mistakes in the Olive Videos, and I've found it helpful to try and catch all of the mistakes as part of studying. You should really only be using the Olive videos to get an idea of how a certain movement should look if you're confused. Other than that, you should only be relying on the Book (NT) -- --, 20:50:26 05/07/13 Tue
    • I agree with the above poster, but will add that you know you know your stuff when you catch Olive's mistakes :) When I first began studying for my exam and found out the videos had mistakes, I initially panicked...towards the end of my studying, I was catching mistakes left and right! In the end, it was pretty empowering. Moral of the story: there really are too many "mistakes" here and there to take the time to write out, but if you study properly, you will catch them. I promise! (NT) -- Good luck!, 21:55:02 05/15/13 Wed
  • Wow that's assuring (NT) -- Wth, 00:36:31 05/16/13 Thu
    • I know it's frustrating, but as you get more familiar with the book it will get easier . A couple mistakes are: Haste to the Wedding, in the ring movements, dancers are doing "threes" around when they should be doing sidestep; and in Sweets of May, Ringing the Bells, dancers begin with right hand when it should be the left hand (NT) -- Hope that helps, 06:20:34 05/16/13 Thu
    • It really is better for your understanding if you catch the mistakes yourself. If you're spoonfed all the mistakes, you're not really learning and may stumble when it comes to the exam. It's an exam, it's hard, there aren't any shortcuts if you want to pass well. (NT) -- ., 09:26:48 05/16/13 Thu
  • I agree with most of the replies - the videos should supplement your knowledge - primary study tool MUST be the book (NT) -- TC, 22:40:08 05/16/13 Thu

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• Ceili Teaching -- Cp, 03:06:46 05/14/13 Tue [12]
  When teaching Ceili's what kind of questions were you asked, if any, by the panel? Nothing too involved I hope?
  

  
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  • To add to the OP's question, how much of each ceili did they have you teach? The body, a figure, the whole thing? (NT) -- TCRG hopeful, 15:30:47 05/14/13 Tue
    • Body of 8 hand reel, up to return chain, and full Rakes of Mallow (NT) -- --, 16:08:42 05/14/13 Tue
  • I wasn't asked to sum up figures or anything. I did get asked who the gents were at some point (considering I had 8 girls dancing), to lilt the specific tune, to show certain moves when the dancers weren't sure. No repetition of the written, that's for sure. (NT) -- TMRF, 16:00:36 05/14/13 Tue
  • First figure of 4-Hand reel, body of trip. Once they were satisfied with each dance, just asked what came next to finish it of (stopped at swing of 4-hand, fot all the way through trip). They didn't say a word while I was teaching either one, but I know others had questions. (NT) -- Atlanta (passed), 16:21:47 05/14/13 Tue
  • St Patricks Day was my first - they just said to teach it so I asked if I should do the lead round and they said just the body. I taught as far as double quarter, then they asked me what the rest of the body movements were and we moved on. My kids took 8 bars to do half R and L even though I'd spelled out 6 bars, and before I could correct them an examiner asked me how many bars it was. In Haste I went from the start to second ring, so practically all of it. Questioning me constantly. (NT) -- Scary but educational experience, 19:45:30 05/14/13 Tue
  • I think you need to be prepared for questions that are "involved" - its an exam, after all. It is not easy. (NT) -- ., 08:19:17 05/15/13 Wed
    • Unless you have something constructive to add to the conversation, perhaps you shouldn't say anything at all (NT) -- --, 15:44:56 05/15/13 Wed
      • Ditto, lol. I actually already did give a few notes on my experience but if the OP thinks they might not get rigorous questioning then they're not being realistic - they can and do ask difficult questions. (NT) -- ., 16:15:29 05/15/13 Wed
  • I was asked to teach Harvest Time Jig. I taught all of it except the very last movement. (more inside) -- jh, TC, 17:06:39 05/15/13 Wed
  • I was asked to teach body of the 8 hand jig and Bonfire dance -- co, TC, 12:57:23 05/16/13 Thu
    • Thanks very much, this is very helpful! (NT) -- cp, 18:03:47 05/16/13 Thu

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• I have quite a while before I'm eligible to sit the AD exam. However, I'd like to start compiling study sources and practice exams, etc. Any AD candidates out there willing to share maths exam help, judging advice, etc? Thanks!!! :) -- jh, TC, 17:13:22 05/15/13 Wed [3]
  
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  • Oops, posted on the wrong one! Have you tried tcrgexam.com? It's got sample math sheets and tips (NT) -- --, 06:32:12 05/16/13 Thu
    • Ha, no! I forgot about that! In my head, it was only TC stuff. Totally forgot about the AD stuff on there. Thanks! :) (NT) -- jh, TC, 06:53:47 05/16/13 Thu

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• Practical dancing -- --, 19:48:12 05/15/13 Wed [2]
  Does it matter if you end with the right foot in front at the end of a contemporary set dance?
  

  
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  • Have you looked at tcrgexam.com? It's got sample math papers and tips (NT) -- --, 06:29:27 05/16/13 Thu

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• Speeds.. -- ., 17:40:56 05/12/13 Sun [1]
  What are the required speeds for heavy dances in beginner (bun) and primary (tus)?
  
  I've found the following info for Scotland, does this apply to the whole of the UK and Ireland?
  
  Beginner and Primary HJ - 76 (seems slow?)
  Beginner Hornpipe - 128
  Primary Hornpipe - 120
  
  Thought this was as good a place as any to ask.
  

  
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• retaking -- ...., 12:13:47 04/30/13 Tue [24]
  for those who have retaken - how helpful was the feedback in terms of explaining where you went wrong? I can't really make much sense of mine. I know where / thought I went wrong, but I want to make sure I don't miss anything in prepping again.
  
  for those that have passed second, third (etc) time - what did you do differently on your final attempt that you think swung it for you and pushed you above 70%?
  
  (i'm retaking teaching)
  

  
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  • I haven't found the feedback they provide to be helpful at all really. For example, they say you didn't progess at a suitable pace but don't indicate if you were too fast or too slow! I too am prepping for a retake so am just trying to be more confident, more comfortable with my steps and see if that makes a difference. (NT) -- Good luck, 12:26:17 04/30/13 Tue
  • It's tricky to say. If you are re-taking the teaching portion I think confidence goes a long way. Look and Feel confident. Connect with the dancers and listen to what the panel has to say. Usually they are trying to help you. Make sure the steps you teach are appropriate for the level and age of the dancers as well that the material is current and the dancers can execute the material. (NT) -- KQ, 20:59:34 05/01/13 Wed
  • From my experience I walked in, the panel introduced me to the dancers. I then asked for their name, age and level they are currently competing in. I then proceeded to ask, can you please show me a step? I watched and decided what step would be appropriate based on what I just watched them perform as well as for their age group and for their level of competition. I then showed them the step I was interested in teaching. Then I looked at them for acknowledgment knowing that they can dance the step and broke it down teaching them piece by piece. Throughout this process I would ask them to show me the step before I advanced on to more material. This seemed to work for me and I only got maybe 4-6 bars in and then the panel stopped me and started to ask questions. (NT) -- You can do it! KQ, 21:25:35 05/01/13 Wed
    • I think you've misunderstood, the person isn't a first-timer, they're retaking and asking the difference between people's unsuccessful and successful attempts. (NT) -- ., 09:56:40 05/02/13 Thu
  • I agree with the other posters, confidence in your ability is key. I was way more confident the second time around, and it showed, I got lost in what I was teaching and almost forgot the panel was there. Make sure to speak loudly as well (if you didn't last time), as I think this certainly was counted against me my first go around (NT) -- Good luck!, 23:29:54 05/01/13 Wed
  • I have my own question - how on earth are you supposed to concentrate on lilting the right tune at the right speed while assessing the dancer's abilities before choosing a step, all at once? I was concentrating so hard on lilting (they stopped me and told me I was going too fast so I had to start them again) that I have no idea what the kids actually danced. Another question - my feedback for the dancing exam says that I didn't dance to the required standard in one of my solos, one of my sets, and one traditional set. But then I only failed by one mark? SO confused. (NT) -- ., 09:58:47 05/02/13 Thu
    • Can't help you with your questions but I am wondering, what level (competition/in class) you dance(d) at? I'm really interested to know because I'd like to try for TCRG but never made it to open standard in comps. If that means I'm nowhere near required standard, I'm not sure I want to spend a lot of money for (everything around) the exam... (NT) -- --, 12:12:39 05/02/13 Thu
      • Prelim. Although I know more tricks now than I used to! I very much agree with them that my trad set was sub-par as I stopped for a split-second - I just couldn't hear the music over the other dancers who were doing a different version to me and dancing between me and the music. I'm not sure what was wrong with the other two dances as you don't get feedback per dance, there's a section at the top about performing adequately and then you get a cross next to the round you didn't pass in. So you don't know exactly which critique applies to each dance. (NT) -- .., 15:36:33 05/02/13 Thu
    • You should take a look at what I posted earlier... There is a process. You should assess the dancer’s ability first, choose a step, teach the step and then lilt while they dance the step... I was an Open competitor. I don't think it matters whether you are in Prelim or Open but you do need to show good quality of dancing without hesitation or confusion (NT) -- KQ, 17:34:51 05/02/13 Thu
      • I have done the exam. I know what happens during the exam. You haven't understood again - I said how are you supposed to assess a dancers ability WHILE lilting. Because you cannot assess a dancer without them dancing for you, and they cannot dance without you lilting. (NT) -- Hdhc, 21:49:55 05/02/13 Thu
        • practice practice practice! as a TC you should be able to tell if the music is too fast or too slow within a few bars - in terms of assessing the level i just was using it as a quick confirmation that they matched the level they said (NT) -- as i had steps for each level, 22:08:20 05/02/13 Thu
          • I agree it takes practice and you should be able to access the dancer within the first 2-4bars. When I assessed I was NOT lilting and they danced a step so I could benchmark off of. Then when I taught the step, I then lilted. By the way, I am trying to understand you so I can help you, you don't have to be cranky and moody about it. (NT) -- KQ, 23:16:36 05/02/13 Thu
            • The exam has changed since you did it and lilting is essential at all times, you wouldn't pass now if you allowed them to demonstrate without setting music for them by lilting. (NT) -- Hc, 08:01:20 05/03/13 Fri
            • I know that you're trying to help, but you're going about it in quite a condescending way by describing the exam for people who've BTDT. We know what "process" to follow, we just made mistakes within that framework and are looking for advice on how to apply the examiner's comments, which are not always straightforward and don't always match up to your own recollection of the experience. Since you seem to have passed first time (well done!), you kinda can't actually help in this situation as you've never had to try and interpret their comments and use them to help you do better next time. (NT) -- ., 09:21:04 05/03/13 Fri
              • Actually, I passed my second time, not first. And that was this year where lilting is mandatory... (NT) -- KQ, 17:23:11 05/03/13 Fri
                • I was required to lilt when the dancers were showing me their steps in Toronto (NT) -- old syllabus, 04:40:10 05/04/13 Sat
                • So why not answer the actual question then - what feedback did you get and how did you interpret it, how did you apply it to the second attempt (if you did) and what else did you do differently? I don't get why you don't answer the question asked if you want to contribute. I also don't know why you'd advise not lilting when you know it's mandatory, you just were lucky to pass without having done it. (NT) -- Bb, 09:02:59 05/04/13 Sat
                  • My feedback from my first attempt was pretty general. Nothing specific where I could have applied it to my second attempt. But I was a lot more confident and I had a better process to follow in my second attempt. You do still have to lilt. The only part that I did not lilt was at the very beginning when I was assessing the dancers ability. After that, I was lilting all the time. (NT) -- KQ, 16:31:41 05/04/13 Sat
  • in class i teach infront of the children with my back to them and a mirror in front of me so i can still see the kids as they pick up the steps. for the exam is it best to teach as i have described although there will not be a mirror in front and keep glancing behind if possible or should i teach standing in between or beside the child or children? appreciate your help in advance (NT) -- thanks, 22:59:14 05/02/13 Thu
    • I'm not sure it matters. I personally teach with my back to the mirrors facing the children, and that is how I taught last year in my exam. I wasn't sure if that was going to be okay since my back was to the judges, but then I thought "This is how I teach, if they find it a little harder to watch me, too bad". I passed first time. I totally agree with the other poster--go in confident! It sounds like you're teaching students now---if they are learning and advancing, you know your stuff! They want to see that you 1. Can assess a dancer's level, and 2. Stay incontrol of a class while getting the info across (NT) -- Good luck!, 15:03:12 05/03/13 Fri
      • thanks for your reply. have to retake this part unfortunately . i just made a mess of it really. i knew i wasnt confident at the time. i was very nervous . i use the term 'shuffle' and not treble but the kids used the term 'rally' and to be honest between shuffling and rallying then trebling i knew i wasnt a bit clear to my self not to mind the kids. i found one of the examiners rude and condisending and of course i just crumbled. not sure when to do it again but i would really be disappointed if i failed it again. i passed everything else and i was very happy with the marks. (NT) -- thanks, 23:13:33 05/03/13 Fri
  • When lilting the tune, do most of you do "de de di de dum" or do you say the words of the step to the tune? When I teach I usually will just say the words of the step, but you can hear the tune in my voice. Is that acceptable when teaching the step? Or should I just hum the tune? (NT) -- First timer!, 16:09:58 05/11/13 Sat
    • I think most times it is fine to sing the step but I received feedback in the middle of my teaching section that we should be singing tunes and music only. I don't know if every examiner feels that way but at least one does! (NT) -- Good luck!, 16:14:32 05/12/13 Sun

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• Grade Exams -- Future TC, 13:59:18 05/11/13 Sat [3]
  The TC I'll be working with stated that in the new rules that in order to take the TCRG exam you must have passed all levels of the Grade Exams. So, when I looked it up its in the new rules, but states beginning in Jan 2018 all candidates for the TCRG must pass all Grade Exams. So, I'm guessing that if I should get my TCRG before 2018...
  

  
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  • Unless you want to take all the grades, then yes you'll need to take the exam prior to 2018 (NT) -- --, 06:33:43 05/12/13 Sun
  • Or get in shape (NT) -- Yup, 08:25:17 05/12/13 Sun

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• Videos of trad sets -- L, 17:59:03 04/29/13 Mon [2]
  After seeing a couple different posts (both here and elsewhere) asking for video of trad sets, I'd love to be able to refer people to this link, because it has words and video for 6 of the trad sets, BUT, I don't want to refer them to it if the versions aren't correct/exam passable.
  
  I know what I *think* is correct, but only knowing one version for most of these and having not taken the exam yet, I can't say with confidence that someone could dance these versions and pass. And I would hate for someone to not pass because they learned the wrong version!
  
  Can anyone confirm any of the sets in this link are acceptable or not?
  
  
  Thanks! Here's the link:
  
  http://www.dance.net/topic/8613465/1/Irish-Hardshoe/SIX-traditional-set-dances-Typed-words-and-video-links.html
  

  
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  • No ones knows if any of these videos are "traditional?" (NT) -- ?, 06:07:03 05/12/13 Sun

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• 3 sea captains traditional set dance, is there anyone that knows the set correctly, that would be willing to put it up on you tube, danced slowly and then to the music please. I have found the one on you tube, but it is a little difficult to follow. -- Very much appreciated, 16:16:59 04/26/13 Fri [17]
  3 sea Captains please help!!!
  

  
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  • I too would appreciate this! I've learned all of the set dances on youtube except for 3 Seas. HELP! (NT) -- thanks :), 23:34:24 04/28/13 Sun
  • I'm taking the Limerick exam in a month and still do not know Three Seas! Anyone have a video? (NT) -- ?, 19:34:39 05/08/13 Wed
  • This evening I will try to film the Olive version and put it on YouTube. I'm not 100% sure it will work but I'll do what I can and keep you posted. (NT) -- ., 09:25:38 05/09/13 Thu
  • STEP LINK INSIDE. -- ., 19:27:00 05/09/13 Thu
    • SET LINK INSIDE. -- ., 19:29:54 05/09/13 Thu
    • Thanks for posting this. Very helpful. Was wondering if you could post Garden of Daisies as well. Thanks again! (NT) -- tc hopeful, 22:40:25 05/09/13 Thu
      • I'll do any requests over the weekend so just let me know what you want. (NT) -- AP, 22:52:41 05/09/13 Thu
        • Thank you so much! (NT) -- tc hopeful, 23:41:08 05/09/13 Thu
  • I can't thank you enough for posting those videos!! (NT) -- You're a life saver :), 02:41:37 05/10/13 Fri
  • The one I learned from Mary macelroy workshop is different, will that still work for my exam ? (NT) -- Thanks, 04:05:41 05/10/13 Fri
    • I didn't take Mary's workshop, but I imagine it would. There are different "versions" of the sets, so to speak. My understanding is that they are regional type differences (NT) -- ., 04:42:11 05/10/13 Fri
    • I attended Mary's workshop in the US, and the set she taught us was pretty much identical to this one. (NT) -- studying, 12:35:36 05/10/13 Fri
  • Where did you get those DVDs ? I only have VHS (NT) -- Thanks, 04:07:57 05/10/13 Fri
    • You can by the DVD on the web, if you do a google search for Olive Hurley, her website comes up, you can buy from there, or there may be other vendors in your area that sells them. I bought mine from Keilys, link inside -- ., 04:29:52 05/10/13 Fri
  • Garden of Daisies - STEP inside -- ., 13:47:20 05/11/13 Sat
    • Garden of Daisies set inside... -- ...., 14:08:30 05/11/13 Sat

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• 8 hand jig -- m, 23:53:32 05/08/13 Wed [3]
  In the 8 hand Jig, Set All Around, should dancers use Skip/Promenade step, or sides/7's to move into the ring. I have the yellow 2000 book which does not state. It says "turn half round" which would indicate skips. But later in the text it says "as in the Back to Back movement of 8 hand reel", which is done in 7's. I have seen it danced both ways. Any one been to a Mary workshop and have the proper step? thanks!
  

  
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  • It is danced with skips. The reference to the back to back in the 8 hand reel is just to explain the formation of the dancers in the ring and not how they get to that position. (NT) -- AD Candidate, 09:08:51 05/09/13 Thu
    • 8HJ -- op, 17:52:05 05/09/13 Thu

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• For the 16 hand, in "Link Arms" the Oilve hurly video i dont see...after gents passing right arm to right : give right hand to partner and turn once in place...I see partners take hands and dance a complete circle around........ Is this a mistake or have I'm i just losing my mind, it seems to be left out or maybe I'm just not catching it.. -- Uh oh, 00:39:02 05/07/13 Tue [2]
  
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  • Maybe I'm not understanding your question, but I think that turning in place and dancing full round are the same thing (NT) -- --, 05:38:18 05/07/13 Tue

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• are the exams with each organization the same and is the same standard i,e, % required by all candidates to pass -- enquiry, 22:44:28 04/28/13 Sun [2]
  
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  • In a word, no. (NT) -- J, 23:20:42 04/28/13 Sun

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• To cross or not to cross -- cp, 19:41:31 03/14/13 Thu [18]
  When teaching jigs from ARF (such as Humours of Bandon, Trip to the Cottage) and partners/couples are taking hands, all of the videos I have watched have the couples taking uncrossed hands. But in the points to remember part of ARF it states that when partners/couples take hands, ladies hands are crossed and gents are uncrossed. So if I have to teach one of these, should I teach it with crossed hands or not? It seems that if partners are not supposed to cross their hands, then the book specifies...
  

  
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  • The intro to ARF explains that if the book doesn't specify, hands should be crossed. However, as with everything ARF there are exceptions to this rule. One notable exception is the Humours of Bandon. ARF doesn't specify that hands should be uncrossed, but it is traditionally danced with uncrossed hands and should thus be taught with uncrossed hands. (NT) -- TC, 01:29:17 03/15/13 Fri
    • Thanks, so would Humours be the ONLY one that should be taught with uncrossed hands? (NT) -- op, 20:16:36 03/18/13 Mon
      • Personally, I would teach all swings with crossed hands, even Humours. You could note if you teach Humours that some teams dance it with uncrossed hands but crossed hands is also correct (NT) -- co, TC, 12:02:13 03/19/13 Tue
        • Yes that's what I was thinking, perhaps explain that because the book does not state hands should be uncrossed, I am teaching it with crossed hands, per the "points to remember" section (NT) -- op, 15:42:36 03/19/13 Tue
        • Yes, I agree. That's definitely how I would do it. We teach our dancers to do HoB with crossed hands. (NT) -- jh, TC, 19:50:15 03/19/13 Tue
          • A friend of mine was asked to teach HoB during her exam and taught it with uncrossed hands and she passed. So long as you have a justification for the way you are teaching it, I would think you will be fine. However, they do want to see you teach the dances the way they are traditionally danced, regardless of what the book says (unfortunately). Teaching HoB with uncrossed hands is like teaching Lannigan's Ball and Gates with overs instead of skips - the book doesn't specify but that's how they're traditionally done. (NT) -- TC, 00:33:11 03/20/13 Wed
            • A friend of mine passed teaching uncrossed as well. The main point here is to be clear as to why you're doing what you're doing. If you're going to teach uncrossed, explain that the book says crossed, but it's traditionally done uncrossed. That's why my friend passed. However, personally, I wouldn't do it that way, since the book does specify that if it does not say in a particular dance, then hands should be crossed. (NT) -- jh, TC, 04:54:10 03/20/13 Wed
            • According to the examiners at my first exam, Lannigans Ball is NOT done with overs... -- Aine, 19:43:02 04/26/13 Fri
              • Lannigans is done with skips on olive too? (NT) -- Gji, 22:33:54 04/26/13 Fri
  • If the book specifies that it's danced a particular way then teach it as per the book but specify whatever way it's generally danced for competition if it differs. (NT) -- TC, 15:33:53 03/20/13 Wed
  • So, current TCs, have you passed teaching it with crossed and uncossed then? (NT) -- studying, 13:19:56 04/03/13 Wed
  • Let me see if I understand the original question ... (inside) -- old adult dancer, 13:42:53 04/03/13 Wed
    • I think you're over thinking, I mean uncrossed as in Lady's left in partners right... As in the see saw movement of the three tunes (NT) -- cp, 05:32:06 04/04/13 Thu
      • But if you are talking about uncrossed hands (lady's left in partner's right), the passage you quoted from ARF is not relevant. (NT) -- old adult dancer, 13:40:50 04/16/13 Tue
        • You've lost me. My question was whether it should be taught with dancers swinging roung with corssed or uncrossed hands. Uncrosse hands seems to be the traditional way of dancing it, however the book states that when partners swing round together, then ladies's hands should be crossed at the wrists, palms down. (NT) -- cp, 17:18:25 04/16/13 Tue
  • I had to teach humours in my exam late last year in Australia. I taught it with CROSSED hands and was asked at the end if I believed I had done it correctly. I quoted the book saying it doesn't specify Therefore they must cross but believed in a feis it was accepted either way. I passed with 90% on that secri (NT) -- Succesful TCRG, 13:32:48 04/21/13 Sun
    • Brilliant! Thanks! (NT) -- cp, 18:18:39 04/21/13 Sun

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• How do I go about getting an exam study package with the clrg CD without actually applying for an exam yet. I want to know at least 3/4 of the book before applying -- Thanks for any help, 00:12:55 04/23/13 Tue [8]
  
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  • Download the book - google Ar Rinci Foirne and there's a PDF on a European website (it's in English). I'll post the cd to you if you want - someone on this board did the same for me so I'll pay it forward. Let me know if you're interested. (NT) -- N, 07:49:03 04/23/13 Tue
    • Not the OP but I am interested. Is it ok to study off the current ARF books online?(more inside) -- Tcrg hopeful, 20:30:28 04/24/13 Wed
      • I would say you're fine to study the current version if you're taking it next year. Any changes to the exam syllabus are posted well in advance so for something as fundamental as a book change, there will be at least a years notice. Leave your email address ('inside' the message rather than in the email box as that doesn't work on this website) and ill get in touch to arrange sending the cd. (NT) -- Khfgnhjd, 21:01:06 04/24/13 Wed
        • Thanks! -- Email inside, 20:58:34 04/25/13 Thu
      • There are mistakes in the online PDF version. (NT) -- studying, 18:23:34 04/25/13 Thu
        • A lot of them? (NT) -- Worried now, 21:01:35 04/25/13 Thu
  • If you email Claire you can buy the exam pack for $50 without applying for the exam (NT) -- Sarah, 08:35:54 04/23/13 Tue

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• For dance exam, do you have to do full traditional sets or is competition length (step left and right, set on right) sufficient? -- Thanx :), 16:14:51 04/20/13 Sat [3]
  Otherwise I need to get cracking on those 2nd step and 2nd set in St. Pat's.
  

  
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  • Competition length is sufficient. (NT) -- TC, 16:57:43 04/20/13 Sat
    • Thank you for your reply :) (NT) -- Cheers!, 17:17:30 04/20/13 Sat

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• share hotel for exam -- AD hopeful, 17:13:30 04/18/13 Thu [1]
  Anybody want to share a hotel room at the Westin in Atlanta? I will be there all four days for AD exam....
  

  
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• Is there usually just one exam each fall in North America? -- Candidate, 22:20:59 04/17/13 Wed [3]
  I Looked online, and in the archives on the boards, but I couldn't find anything. But I swear I read somewhere that in NA there is usually one in early fall and one later in the fall. Am I crazy?
  
  For what it's worth, I just started studying at the beginning of this year and am planning on taking it fall 2014.
  

  
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  • Last year Atlanta was in September and November Glasgow. I believe those were the only two fall exams but maybe that was an off year? (NT) -- :), 12:42:52 04/18/13 Thu
    • Also, Toronto in August last year. Typically depends on finding someone willing to host it. (NT) -- jh, TC, 15:16:55 04/18/13 Thu

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• Hi all, looking for a TC to help with small school in Southern region. Please email me at oneirishrose214@yahoo. or text 228-239-2422. -- Julie, 03:48:40 04/18/13 Thu [1]
  
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• Office -- N, 20:52:10 04/15/13 Mon [3]
  Anyone heard from Claire since worlds? sent in my application before worlds knowing I wouldn't hear til after, but I still haven't so just checking if she's maybe on vacation? Mail tracker says it got there. Don't want to miss out on a spot - just want to pay them my $$
  

  
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  • No, I'm in the same boat as you. I've also sent three emails and haven't heard back but others have gotten confirmation/been waitlisted (NT) -- --, 17:15:09 04/16/13 Tue
  • Heard back from Claire last week. She is sorting through many applications and will let people know as soon as she can. Was out of the office until early last week. (NT) -- Atl. Can., 21:02:01 04/16/13 Tue

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• Four hand reel first figure -- ., 09:37:34 04/12/13 Fri [7]
  In the rings - would you do back 23s, skip 23s or over 23s after each sidestep, bearing in mind that at times dancers are moving into/out of the rings? I know it's skip 23s in Haste, but those rings are different as it's:
  sidestep, change, sidestep, change,
  whereas in 4HR it's sidestep, threes, sidestep, change, sidestep, threes, sidestep, change.
  

  
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  • I believe for the second set of threes the book says to "advance" which would imply forward 2, 3s. (NT) -- tc hopeful, 13:07:17 04/12/13 Fri
  • Also, I would teach the dance with skip 2, 3s for the exam. If you start with skip 2, 3s you must be consistent and use them throughout the dance. (NT) -- tc hopeful, 13:31:59 04/12/13 Fri
    • I don't think that's right - in the Square you use back 23s and in down the centre you use skip 123s. The Square would look odd with skip threes. Also in Haste, it's definitely backs in Up the Centre and definitely skips in the two rings. (NT) -- ., 14:40:20 04/12/13 Fri
      • I simply meant that you can't mix skip 2,3s with over 2,3s (NT) -- tc hopeful, 15:26:38 04/12/13 Fri
  • I would do back 2 3's when sidestepping the first time, and skips when taking the next dancer into the ring. The book doesn't specify either way, it just says "two threes", so if I had to teach it, I would explain my thought process to the panel. (NT) -- cp, 16:00:36 04/12/13 Fri
  • The book states "and then advance and form a 'Ring of Three' the second time. Can't really "advance when dancing back 2, 3s. (NT) -- studying, 17:05:13 04/12/13 Fri

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• Non-Traditional Ceilis -- New TCRG, 00:15:27 03/28/13 Thu [9]
  I recently passed my exam and opened my own school- my previous school is not as supportive as I had expected and I'm running into a few dilemmas. I never danced many ceilis/figures as a competitive dancer so it is challenging to make 2 & 3 hands for my dancers.
  
  Just want a few words of advice!
  
  How many sets of 8 do these dances need to be? (6 sets total?) Do they need to consist of a full lead around (2 sets of 8?) And are there any components that need to be included in the choreography?
  
  Thanks so much- I am always happy to supply answers regarding the exam, but I am still learning post-exam lessons!
  

  
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  • most syllabus have the length listed - i have always seen a 16 bar lead up and back (NT) -- but no rules, 02:37:44 03/28/13 Thu
  • Off the top of my head I think you get 48 bars. Our 2 and 3 hands have always had a 16 bar lead round so to speak but I don't believe that is a requirement. (NT) -- Feis syllabus should say!, 14:39:40 03/28/13 Thu
  • You need to check a couple of syllabi for feiseanna near you. In our area, it's mostly 40 bars of dancing with the 8 bar intro. -- More..., 02:45:21 03/29/13 Fri
  • None of the 2 and 3 hands I've ever learned had a lead around. (NT) -- mp, 21:13:12 04/01/13 Mon
  • You should speak to the head of your region and request you are sent the rules and regulations of your regional body. Also each region has a required standard syllabus and rules are listed in that. Plus, the questions you are asking can be best answered by your regional director. Mine was a gr8 mentor to me when I was first starting out. (NT) -- Let us know how you get on., 15:47:13 04/02/13 Tue
  • In my school (very traditional but with high-placing dancers at majors), we call our own choreography (2's, 3's, 6's, etc.) "figures." I believe it is incorrect to call them "non-traditional ceilis." Ceili is only the term used for the book dances. (NT) -- I could be wrong? - New TCRG, 04:00:55 04/05/13 Fri
    • No you're right, there's no such thing as a non-traditional ceili. The book dances are the only ceilis - any other team dance you do in competition would be referred to as a figure or by its type e.g. 2-hand, 3-hand. (NT) -- ., 15:50:27 04/05/13 Fri
  • In the MAR it's 48 bars. (NT) -- tc hopeful, 13:42:04 04/12/13 Fri

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• What's a "new" traditional set ? -- Huh?, 23:13:10 04/10/13 Wed [4]
  
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  • There used to just be 4: St. Patrick's Day, Garden of Daisies, Job of Journeywork, & Blackbird. But now there are several new ones: Jockey to the Fair, 3 Sea Captains, & King of the Fairies. (NT) -- Also white blanket, but it's not on the exam, 23:22:12 04/10/13 Wed
  • The word new is probably not appropriate either. All of these trads would have been danced for many years and known by dancers and teachers who grew up with them but they are new to the exam and feis syllabi (NT) -- :), 12:40:57 04/11/13 Thu
    • That's why we said "new", as in new to the exam but not new-new. (NT) -- ., 15:30:31 04/11/13 Thu

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• Marie Duffy seminar -- ., 15:28:51 04/10/13 Wed [4]
  Is anybody going to this in July? Does anyone know - if you attend the trad set and ceili workshops and if they are taught by Mary or another examiner, do you need to state this within the section that asks about preparation help on the application form?
  

  
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  • I wish!!!!! Sucks its the same time as nationals (NT) -- ecr, 16:36:34 04/10/13 Wed
  • Hadn't heard of this, when and where? (NT) -- --, 18:45:33 04/10/13 Wed
    • Google Marie Duffy Foundation and go to the awards page - 5-7 July, Limerick. (NT) -- Bffkgkll, 19:22:51 04/10/13 Wed

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• New exam structure. -- ...., 12:43:33 04/08/13 Mon [7]
  Just a quick question for those who took in January - re the dancing section - did anyone have to dance two jig or two hornpipe sets, or were they keen to see one of each from every candidate? Actually another question now I think of it - which trad sets did you have to dance? Did everyone do one "old" and one "new"?
  

  
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  • I had to do 2 jig sets. They picked my 2 that were the same length, I suppose to ensure I wasn't repeating material! I did 1 old and 1 new trad, but I know of some people who did 2 old ones. (NT) -- co, TC, 13:10:54 04/08/13 Mon
  • I had to do one Jig Set and one Horpipe Set. For the traditional sets, BOTH my trads were new, I was pretty surprised by that, I thought that I would dance one old and one new, but nope both were new. (NT) -- KQ - New TC, 16:26:57 04/08/13 Mon
  • Lots of folks in Dublin had two sets of the same timing. Not everyone but it was pretty common. Also most seemed to have one old and one new (if not both new like previous poster said) trads. Heard of a couple folks teaching new trads as well (NT) -- Best of luck, 13:28:56 04/09/13 Tue
    • Yep, I know of at least 2 people in LA who had to teach parts of new trads. Didn't always start with the step either -- sometimes they asked for the set (NT) -- co, TC, 14:33:16 04/09/13 Tue
      • would love to teach a set (NT) -- tc hopeful, 02:45:20 04/10/13 Wed
        • Me too, no need to worry if your step is hard enough or not - you can't change it. (NT) -- ., 09:35:23 04/10/13 Wed

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• Is there an exam in nov/dec? Anyone hear anything? -- Dyduudufufuufuff, 15:24:27 04/06/13 Sat [2]
  
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• Application for Atlanta Exam -- --, 20:49:58 04/05/13 Fri [9]
  Has anyone received confirmation of acceptance to the Atlanta exam yet?
  

  
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  • Not official word with the "contract" to sign but Claire has confirmed through email that I have a spot. (NT) -- Atlanta bound, 21:18:13 04/05/13 Fri
  • I had an email from Claire today and she said the Atlanta exam is full with a waiting list. How many candidates will be sitting? (NT) -- Wait list hopeful, 04:07:17 04/06/13 Sat
  • Thanks, I sent my application in on Feb 26 and haven't heard anything, nor has my credit card been charged, so I guess I should bug her (NT) -- op, 07:02:46 04/06/13 Sat
  • Claire told me they don't charge your card until about 3 months before. I sent my application a few weeks before you and also haven't heard back. It's been a busy few weeks for them though...I'm sure she will respond soon. (NT) -- Atl. Candidate :), 14:47:07 04/06/13 Sat
  • First responder here again. My card was charged the day I gave it. I wouldn't worry, but I would advise following up. (NT) -- Im repeating so maybe that's it, 15:53:30 04/06/13 Sat
  • I sent mine in mid February & received confirmation on Feb 22. Received my materials from them about 10 days later. I think they must have been preoccupied the past few weeks with everything for Worlds so I wouldn't worry yet if you haven't heard. (NT) -- Atlanta Candidate, 23:21:11 04/07/13 Sun
  • I sent her my application early March and she confirmed that I do have a spot for the exam. But I have not received my packet and they have not charged my card yet. -- Yikes!, 14:25:30 04/08/13 Mon
  • Thanks everyone, I won't panic yet, but it is a bit strange that they are sending out the confirmations/packages so sporradically. (NT) -- op, 16:05:19 04/08/13 Mon

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• 13. Name 3 eight hand dances each of which has its first and second figures, movements which do not appear in any other dance. Name the figures and give the number of bars required to complete each figure. -- Fb, 14:29:35 04/07/13 Sun [2]
  
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  • Trip to the Cottage, Cross Reel, High Cauled Cap. (NT) -- ., 14:37:46 04/07/13 Sun

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• Audio version of Olive Hurley Ceili Videos -- OP, 18:24:08 01/08/13 Tue [23]
  Hi all! Not sure if anyone else will find this helpful, but I converted my Olive Hurley videos into audio so I can listen on my phone/ in the car, wherever. It has really helped me visualize the dances and memorize better than just watching the video and matching it up with the ARF. I know I've been told lots, and want to warn that there are errors in the Olive Hurley videos so its best to always check the ARF. If you're interested in me sending the audio to you, just leave your email as a reply. I only have 1, 2 and 4 currently though. Good luck everyone!!
  

  
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  • yes can u mail me thanks -- what do you mean 1.2 and 4 :), 18:31:23 01/08/13 Tue
    • Not op but her ceilis are split over 4 DVDs so I assume OP is missing whatever dances are on volume 3. (NT) -- :), 18:41:02 01/08/13 Tue
  • has anyone got a ceili or set audio that I can download please? (NT) -- want to practise before I apply, 21:26:41 01/08/13 Tue
  • I can try to make the audio available somewhere for download that might be easier, I'll follow up by this weekend with any updates otherwise I can send by email :) and yes I do not have the 3rd DVD in the set of 4. (NT) -- OP, 14:47:11 01/09/13 Wed
  • Where can I get the 4 Olive Hurley DVDs? Also, which ceilis have mistakes? I want to make sure I don't learn them wrong! (NT) -- THANKS :), 20:56:48 01/09/13 Wed
    • See inside for link to purchase the 4 DVDs. -- OP, 18:06:45 01/10/13 Thu
  • Email me too please ! -- Hopeful !, 10:07:30 01/10/13 Thu
  • What a great idea!! I would love to have these emailed to me please. -- Email inside - thank you :-), 13:48:21 02/24/13 Sun
  • I'm currently studying the ceilis and would like to know which dances have mistakes in the videos? I've found some on my own, but I don't want to miss a mistake and study wrong! (NT) -- Does anyone know of ALL the mistakes?, 16:19:34 02/24/13 Sun
    • Unfortunately, I don't think all of the mistakes are written down anywhere. I have to start restudying the book. If I find any I'll post them. Best of luck! (NT) -- tc cand, 18:54:40 02/26/13 Tue
      • I don't know all of the mistakes but I noticed today that in Haste to the Wedding on the Ring movements, the dancers are doing threes around when they should be doing sidestep (NT) -- cp, 20:48:54 02/26/13 Tue
  • part of studying is finding all of her mistakes. (NT) -- good luck!, 15:21:42 02/25/13 Mon
    • While this has some truth to it everyone can miss mistakes in the videos. That's one reason why I like this board so much. While I was studying last year people generously shared information. It was like a study group. (NT) -- tc cand, 18:57:13 02/26/13 Tue
  • That would be wonderful, I'd love to have that! -- email inside, 07:02:27 03/05/13 Tue
  • Thank you, I would love to have this! -- email inside, 12:44:25 03/07/13 Thu
  • Please email it to me ! -- Thanks, 18:16:18 03/12/13 Tue
  • Can you also email to me please - much appreciated -- DW, 11:24:58 03/14/13 Thu
  • I have the DVD's do you mind telling me how you "converted" them to audio??? (NT) -- hopeful, 17:20:02 03/27/13 Wed
  • Please please send this to me :) asked twice before haven't received it !! Would be a big help!! -- Please, 02:56:41 03/28/13 Thu
  • Would Love the Audio! please please send! -- TC Hopefull - OL, 15:02:50 03/29/13 Fri
  • hopefull -- dancer, 16:12:40 03/31/13 Sun
  • I would love this, thanks - email inside -- Thanks, 05:42:44 04/05/13 Fri

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• Over two threes vs skip two threes -- Going around in Circles, 11:15:04 03/27/13 Wed [6]
  This may be a silly question but in ceili dances that use the over two threes, such as walls of Limerick (in Olive Hurley dvd)
  Is this customary or can you choose to use regular skip two threes?
  

  
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  • Walls of limerick done with skip 2 3s not overs (NT) -- Despite video, 16:24:18 03/27/13 Wed
  • The only dance done with over 2, 3s is Gates; Lannigan's can be done either way. (NT) -- workshop attendee, 17:28:28 04/02/13 Tue
  • Rakes of Mallow can also be done with over 2-3's as well as skips. (NT) -- --, 17:51:51 04/02/13 Tue
  • I believe that almost any of the ceili dances *may* be done with either hop 123's or over 23's (the apparent exception is Gates of Derry), it is a matter of what is typically done, and what is regarded (depending on whom you ask) as traditional. My first step dancing teacher taught that overs were for reel dances, hop 123's for jig dances. (NT) -- old adult dancer, 13:47:47 04/03/13 Wed
  • At Mary McElroy's workshop the only dance we were instructed to teach with over 2, 3s was Gates. (NT) -- tc hopeful, 23:56:14 04/04/13 Thu

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• figure dances -- starting up, 05:01:56 04/02/13 Tue [4]
  Hey, does anyone know what the rules are and where teachers get their ideas for figures and dance dramas? I was watching them at worlds this year and some of the stories seem so classic. like, is there a book of them some place, i would love to choreograph one.
  

  
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  • If you go to clrg.ie the rules can be found in the Worlds syllabus. There's no book of stories to choose from, it's up to the teacher, but has to link to Ireland in some way. (NT) -- ., 11:09:56 04/02/13 Tue
  • ok, so it doesn't necessarily need to be a true story. the teacher can literally make it all up? (NT) -- op, 22:47:01 04/02/13 Tue
    • Plenty of them are myth and legend (eg Children of Lir) so no, they certainly don't need to be true! Google Irish myths and legends and see what you get. (NT) -- DxoPp, 07:14:03 04/03/13 Wed

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• So who went to the graduation ceremony in Boston? What was it like? -- New TCRG who didn't travel :(, 17:38:05 04/02/13 Tue [2]
  
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  • I went and it was a really nice experience (NT) -- fortunate to be there, 00:48:29 04/03/13 Wed

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• LIVE STREAMING of CEILI DANCE comps at WORLDs in BOSTON: Hope you have invested in the live streaming as you will have the opportunity to see so many of the ceili dances performed. onthefeis.com -- It is brilliant!, 17:39:05 03/27/13 Wed [1]
  
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• Is there time before the music exam to quickly scribble down memory joggers? Or do you just take your seat and the music is played instantly -- ., 23:00:08 03/22/13 Fri [7]
  
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  • Virtually no time I'm afraid. Takes a few moments to get everyone seated and explain the format of the exam but no time to write anything meaningful, and they won't give new scrap paper out - if it's already there unused on the desk you could use it, but otherwise no. (NT) -- ., 23:19:58 03/22/13 Fri
    • Well that's unfortunate! I've practiced with and without helpful hints and marks come out basically the same. But I just know that my anxiety level would drop greatly if I had the option during the real thing. (NT) -- Op, 00:20:38 03/23/13 Sat
      • There's plenty of time before the next exam - if you start practicing without the notes every single time now, you'll still sail through it! (NT) -- Jj, 11:00:20 03/23/13 Sat
  • Does anyone know if they play the same CD as they send you in the mail? I've gotten so used to listening to those set dances at those speeds and don't want to be confused if they play a different one! (NT) -- ?, 02:18:03 03/23/13 Sat
    • yes (NT) -- tc cand, 06:36:36 03/23/13 Sat
      • They played a different CD at my exam...I panicked for a split second, but still got them all right! You have plenty of time, just start now and stay dedicated. (NT) -- new tc, 18:58:14 03/25/13 Mon

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• Having a hard time : not sure where to start and getting frustrated ,,, how Did the rest of you study and specific layout ? An hour of music and hour f book ! Help:( feeling very alone -- Help, 19:45:29 03/21/13 Thu [7]
  
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  • I can relate! More inside... -- TCRG, 21:27:41 03/21/13 Thu
  • I'm feeling the same way you are! I started with the Ceili books since that is the most challenging part of the exam. Just take it one book at a time. Also, put the set dance music on your iPod and listen to it when you're in the car, working out, whenever! (NT) -- Good luck :), 16:52:53 03/22/13 Fri
  • If you've never done ceili before, I strongly recommend going through and picking the easy ones first. Walls, Siege of Ennis, Rakes of Mallow, all those short dances with no figures. Get the easy ones learnt first before you tackle the more difficult dances with tricky figures - get used to the book terminology first, because it's old fashioned language at times. I also honestly think dancing them is the best thing you could ever do - especially when the written paper asks "I am gent x list the ladies I meet and the hands I give them in x" - if you've danced in with real people, you can visualise the movement and remember the direction/hands so much more easily. (NT) -- v, 17:56:49 03/22/13 Fri
  • Thanks everyone, how long did you study before you went to your examination ? (NT) -- Help, 20:48:49 03/23/13 Sat
    • 4 months (NT) -- 1st time & passed, 05:42:30 03/24/13 Sun
    • I didn't even apply until I'd learned all the ceilis - everyone's different and has different amounts of time that they can commit to studying. If you feel you can do it quickly then go for it, but taking your time is ok too. (NT) -- ., 12:46:59 03/24/13 Sun

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• Any new TCs care to share how their first st pat's went? -- new tc, 01:46:26 03/19/13 Tue [3]
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  • It went great! It was nice to say that I am a new TC and to see the dancers I work with do a very good job! Plus, I have been approached by other dancers from other schools wanting to take there TC and asking for some help. Overall it was an awesome day!! (NT) -- KQ, 16:00:32 03/19/13 Tue
  • The best St. Pat's of my life. Students did well, I had numerous opportunities to dance with incredible musicians. I loved every minute. (NT) -- AD, 00:45:03 03/24/13 Sun

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• How many bars is Link Arms supposed to be in Haymakers' Jig? -- cp, 04:21:27 03/22/13 Fri [4]
  
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  • 16 bars (NT) -- AD Candidate, 09:53:19 03/22/13 Fri
  • If I had to teach it, I'd say "the book doesn't specify but my class has found 24 bars to be the best". Granted I teach older adults and kids might be able to do it neatly in 16, but since the book doesn't specify I'm sure you can set your own bar limit so long as you justify it. Can't remember what Olive has the dancers do. (NT) -- ., 11:00:50 03/22/13 Fri
  • Thank-you! (NT) -- cp, 15:47:09 03/22/13 Fri

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• Any exams in uk/Ireland this year after limerick or is limerick the only one form2013? -- C, 14:38:29 03/19/13 Tue [1]
  
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• Difference between "Rise and Grind" and "Rising Step" -- confused, 17:33:58 03/15/13 Fri [7]
  Is there a difference between saying Rise and Grind and Rising Step?
  

  
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  • Sort of - the Rising Step refers to both the Rise and Grind and the Sink and Grind. The Rise and Grind is the jig step done in e.g. St Patrick's Day, and most solo light jigs - hop up, hop back, hop back 234. The Sink and Grind is only done in the Harvest Time Jig in terms of ceili, though often makes its way into solo light jigs too. Kick out and back and back 234. The intro to the book says something like - if it's to be done on the same foot twice then it's the sink and grind, alternating feet is the rise and grind. (NT) -- ., 17:37:22 03/15/13 Fri
    • sink and grind does not start with a kick - it is a jump with the feet together (often referred to as down up back 2 3 4 (NT) -- no kick, 19:11:52 03/15/13 Fri
      • I know how to do it, we call it a kick to remind the kids to extend the front leg into the jump. Different terminology. (NT) -- G, 22:01:03 03/15/13 Fri
        • Just wanted to make sure they didn't confuse it with the throws in lannigans (NT) -- kick, 01:27:30 03/16/13 Sat
          • Ah yes good point. We also say "out down hop and back 234" if that helps. (NT) -- ., 16:55:59 03/18/13 Mon
  • Thanks!! (NT) -- c, 17:49:16 03/15/13 Fri

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• Just signed up. Atlanta here I come! -- :), 17:19:28 03/12/13 Tue [3]
  
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  • me too!! -- Yikes!, 13:30:26 03/14/13 Thu
    • Me Three! - Kind of feel sick every time I remember there's a firm date (NT) -- cp, 15:13:28 03/14/13 Thu

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• I'm wanting to teach one Ceili per month to a mix of experienced and non experienced dancers. I'd like to focus on the eight hands in particular. In your opinion, from simplest to hardest, how should I order them. -- Ss, 21:11:40 03/12/13 Tue [4]
  
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  • teaching 8 hands -- tmrf, 21:18:10 03/12/13 Tue
    • Agree with this - and most schools do as well as their junior teams usually do Sweets. I think save anything with "Back to Back" until the dancers are a bit more used to ceilis. Perhaps try High Cauled Cap after Sweets, then maybe Three Tunes - the movements aren't that difficult. The rest are all "much of a muchness" in my opinion - what one dancer will struggle with another will find quite straightforward, and they all have easy parts and harder parts. Why not show them a video clip of two dances at the start of class and ask them to choose? (NT) -- ., 10:24:02 03/13/13 Wed
  • We just taught Sweets of May to our beginner adults, but the first one I ever learned was Trip to the Cottage. I look at that now and think, "YIKES!" (NT) -- teacher, 01:33:52 03/14/13 Thu

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• I'm thinking about taking the exam in limerick, but it seems a little intimidating to take it in Ireland. I wonder if the examiners score harder there.....Has anyone passed who took it there? -- --, 16:04:42 02/22/13 Fri [21]
  
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  • Examiners are standard around the world - your odds of having examiners ABC in Ireland are the same as having them in USA or Australia! (NT) -- standard grading too, 17:18:35 02/22/13 Fri
  • No matter where you take the exam, the panel will be from all over the world. In LA there were 2 Americans, 2 English, 1 Irish and 1 Australian. They all use the same standards for scoring as well, so no worries about one location being harder than others! (NT) -- co, TC, 18:47:14 02/22/13 Fri
  • yeah, I know it's the same examiners- I was in LA. I just wonder if they grade stricter/harder there..... (NT) -- --, 20:12:09 02/22/13 Fri
  • The only concern of mine would be a possible language barrier. It shouldn't be a big problem, but Americans usually use slightly different terms and have accents that the irish kids you will be teaching aren't used to. As long as you speak clearly, it should be fine! (NT) -- maybe I'll see you there!, 22:02:14 02/22/13 Fri
  • I'm Canadian and I took my exam in Glasgow. It was a bit intimidating, but travelling so far was also motivation to put the work in to pass - it's a big investment. As for the language barrier, when I started the teaching section I told the kiddies "I know I have an accent, and I may use different terms than you're used to, so if you don't understand what I mean, or need me to clarify, just raise your hand and I'll explain in a different way." (NT) -- TC, 03:43:10 02/23/13 Sat
  • Thank you- very helpful... didn't even think about having to use different terms (NT) -- --, 07:53:42 02/23/13 Sat
  • I've heard that Limerick exam is now full but this may not be correct. I'd advise that if you want to take it in Limerick then to contact Claire in the office ASAP and get your application in. (NT) -- TC, 09:53:16 02/23/13 Sat
  • yeah, I think I don't want to go there. What a way to ruin a trip to Ireland. To the person who took in Glasgow- did you pass? (NT) -- --, 15:24:53 02/25/13 Mon
    • We're you are from vs where you take the exam has no influence on writer you pass or not (NT) -- 100% guarantee, 21:51:43 02/25/13 Mon
      • yeah- but why put yourself at any disadvantage. And NOTHING is 100% guaranteed in this exam (NT) -- --, 14:55:33 02/26/13 Tue
        • Most people travel for the exam. If you know your stuff you will be find wherever you take it. If the thought of doing the test away from home is stressful then don't do it. It is stressful enough without adding more unnecessarily. However there is no truth to your perception of being at a disadvantage and you are creating stress at this point (NT) -- Tcrg, 17:17:39 02/26/13 Tue
          • I have taken the exam 4 times now, and passed every part once- and most of it twice. I guess I know what I'm in for. (NT) -- --, 16:34:15 03/04/13 Mon
    • I did pass, and it was a great trip! I wrote the exam at the beginning of the trip, and spent another week touring Glasgow, Edinburgh and London. A fun way to blow off steam after a year of studying! (NT) -- TC, 23:30:43 02/25/13 Mon
  • The different terms thing could happen even if you take it in your own region. For example I use the terms treble and click, but the teacher I'm working with at the moment uses the terms rally and slice. We are in neighbouring cities. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that candidates taking the exam in Ireland would come under more scrutiny than candidates in any other location. How would that even be ethical?! (NT) -- ., 17:21:47 03/04/13 Mon
    • you really think CLRG cares about being ethical? I'm chuckling. (NT) -- --, 15:10:55 03/05/13 Tue
      • If it makes you laugh why are you taking the exam to join the organisation - if you're not, why are you here? (NT) -- ,, 15:15:42 03/05/13 Tue
        • because I love irish dance and I want my students to compete. Anyone who thinks its always ethical is wearing rose colored glasses (NT) -- --, 17:31:00 03/05/13 Tue
          • Other organisations have competitions and who said it was always ethical? All I said was that this concept of Ireland candidates being marked more harshly is unethical. Moreover, it doesn't even make sense. Can anyone explain why they would grade harder when in Ireland, or why you (general you) thinks they do? (NT) -- J, 19:23:43 03/05/13 Tue
  • I took in Ireland and will be re-taking in NA. Not sure if the grading is harder but I found the situation to be very intimidating. Maybe because of the extra expense etc (NT) -- Just me, 19:46:59 03/05/13 Tue
  • The examiners grade the same at all venues, wherever in the world they choose to hold the exam. In LA the examiners were from different parts of the world and they were ALL very intimidating at some point. If you go in with 110%confidence in your studies and dances you should be fine. But remember it is a very intimidating exam wherever you choose to take it. (NT) -- Just remember to Breath and Focus - KQ, 22:22:50 03/05/13 Tue

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• ♫ 3 Rounds for $3 Special! ♫ -- Mark Arrington, 14:36:33 03/04/13 Mon [1]
  This includes a soft shoe and hard shoe dance once-through from my CD "Champtrax", and a set dance at any speed, including Vanishing Lake, Charlady, and Planxty Hugh O'Donnell. The soft and hard shoe tunes are the number of bars for OC/PC dancers, so it’s great for practicing beginning and endings. When you go to check out (www.markarringtonmusic.com) you will be able to type in the ones you need.
  Best of luck to the Worlds competitors!
  

  
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• Has anyone got or found a good video of 3 Sea Captains anywhere?? Am desperate now!!! -- rinceoir, 15:15:04 02/28/13 Thu [5]
  Please and thanks...
  

  
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  • It's on Olive Hurley's DVD - Step by Step Volume III - On the DVD are the following dances: King of the Fairies, 3 Sea Captains, Jockey to the Fair, White Blanket, Job of Journeywork, Garden of Daisies, The Blackbird & St. Patricks Day. (NT) -- ECR dancer, 17:51:09 02/28/13 Thu
  • Is white blanket a traditional set dance? (NT) -- Thought there were just 7, 20:32:00 02/28/13 Thu
  • White Blanket is a traditional, but you don't need to know it for the test (NT) -- cp, 21:40:54 02/28/13 Thu
    • dont think it is a CLRG trad set - it is with comhilada tho (NT) -- sorry for spelling, 18:26:32 03/02/13 Sat

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• http://thetcrgexam.blogspot.co.uk/ Just wanted to share my blog, any input would be greatly appreciated as I'm pretty much studying this thing single-handed with no local school. Would alos be great to see other peoples blogs to get some ideas and inspiration! -- cheers, 22:31:13 02/25/13 Mon [1]
  
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• Atlanta -- Studier, 00:43:49 02/22/13 Fri [3]
  Anyone studying for Atlanta in September? How long have you been at it?
  

  
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  • Yup, but only retaking solo teaching. Took last year in Atlanta, studied about 5 months almost full time. (NT) -- Good luck, 01:03:40 02/22/13 Fri
  • Yes -- inside, 14:20:41 02/22/13 Fri

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• Was wondering how many non trad sets everyone had to dance at The exams in January. Thanks. -- tc cand, 13:20:28 02/20/13 Wed [5]
  
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  • You are required to dance 3 of your non trad sets. (NT) -- AD candidate, 13:44:17 02/20/13 Wed
  • You're only required to dance two now. Did anyone have to dance two TJ sets or two HP sets? (NT) -- studying, 14:16:26 02/20/13 Wed
  • You have to dance 2 non-trad sets and 2 trad sets. I was asked to dance 2 jig sets in LA (NT) -- co, TC, 15:12:52 02/20/13 Wed
    • Okay. Thanks for the help. (NT) -- op, 22:55:27 02/21/13 Thu

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• Application for TCRG -- Candidate, 15:15:11 02/19/13 Tue [3]
  When filling out the summary of your dance career, how detailed do they want it? I was just going to do something short... as honestly I haven't competed in nine years, and I've only taught non-competitvely on and off for the last 5 years... curious to hear what others put down?
  

  
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  • I wrote a brief summary which included the highest level I competed, the major competitions I danced at, and my highest placements. I had been teaching for a school for several years before applying for the exam, but didn't include that since it asks for your "dance career" summary, not teaching experience. (NT) -- Good luck to you!, 18:03:50 02/20/13 Wed
  • I did all that and also included teaching experience as well my role in running our local Feis for several years. (NT) -- recent TC, 19:15:42 02/20/13 Wed

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• Hi Guys, I have recently passed my TCRG & was wondering if any of the new US TCRGs were looking for another teacher to open a school with? -- New TCRG, 18:36:28 12/17/12 Mon [6]
  
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  • What area are you looking to relocate to? and do you have the ability to get a job any of those places? Most schools don't make enough money to provide the necessities of life for one teacher, letalone two (NT) -- wouldn't mind finding where you're interested in., 18:16:32 12/20/12 Thu
  • If you can't find something right now, maybe you could offer your skills for hire .... -- Just a thought..., 15:03:37 12/22/12 Sat
  • anybody in Ireland looking for same? -- //, 21:24:14 02/19/13 Tue
  • Opening a dance school with someone you don't know? Probably not the best idea (NT) -- Think about it, 02:31:54 02/20/13 Wed
  • It's very possible to make a living off of just teaching. I know plenty of TCRGs who have been very successful because they don't have another job and have more time/energy to put into their school. It'll take a few years to build, but you can do it! And I agree with the above poster ^ it's risky to work with someone you don't know! (NT) -- Good luck, 14:48:43 02/20/13 Wed

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• Mary McElroy Workshops -- TCRG hopeful, 18:07:55 02/18/13 Mon [1]
  Does anyone know if Mary McElroy will be holding any workshops in the US any time soon? I can't find information on schedules or contact information.
  

  
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• www.patkingmusic.com -- New TC, 02:57:34 02/18/13 Mon [1]
  Go to this site and buy Teacher-in-Training CD. The original and by far the best exam aid.
  

  
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• Gates of Derry -- R, 18:54:07 02/17/13 Sun [3]
  I don't know if I even have to know this, but the total bars is 240 right? or are we not supposed to count the repeats, therefore it would be 96? even that number could be off if there are more then 4 couples right? help!
  

  
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  • 240 is right. If they ask for the total bars in a dance, they are looking for bars from start to finish with any repeats of body, etc. (NT) -- co, 20:17:33 02/17/13 Sun
  • Thankyou!!!! (NT) -- R, 01:35:41 02/18/13 Mon

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• If you're asked to teach traditional set, do they expect you to demonstrate it first? -- tcrg candidate, 15:16:27 02/15/13 Fri [4]
  
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  • Yes. It's best to demonstrate what you're going to teach, whether it's a trad set or a regular step. (NT) -- jh, TC, 17:38:46 02/15/13 Fri
  • You earn marks (or lose them) for demonstrating the step you will teach. (NT) -- :), 20:06:50 02/15/13 Fri
    • I wouldn't demo the whole dance though, just the step part on right foot (or whichever bit they tell you to teach), you can always demo the set after if you reach that part (NT) -- Just my thoughts, 12:54:21 02/16/13 Sat

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• ADCRG and TCRG exams announced for Atlanta 19th-22nd Sept 2013.. -- TC, 13:48:54 02/15/13 Fri [1]
  
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• If sitting for the ADCRG, if you passed the dancing section with honors, can you still skip the dancing? -- m, 01:20:04 02/15/13 Fri [2]
  I seem to remember that was on the syllabus when I sat for my TCRG but can't find it anywhere on the ADCRG application. Thanks!
  

  
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  • You have to have passed your TCRG after a certain year...I think it was 2002 but not fully certain on the year. I need to take the dancing section as I passed my exam in 2000. (NT) -- AD candidate, 06:58:57 02/15/13 Fri

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• Background check? -- Allison, 14:08:34 02/14/13 Thu [12]
  Hello.
  
  I just received an automated message from HireRight. The email says that IDTANA uses HireRight to process background checks.
  
  The email is signed by Lisa Petri. Before I complete the form (which asks for SSN), I wanted to ask if all successful candidates receive this automated email?
  
  Do they get our email addresses from CLRG? I haven't finished my registration with CLRG yet, so if they didn't get my email address from CLRG, I imagine the ADCRG who sponsored me furnished my email address to IDTANA.
  
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  • I got the same things? Did not want to give the info if it was spam. (NT) -- ??, 14:44:11 02/14/13 Thu
  • i also got it... anyone know anything about it? -- confused, 15:05:19 02/14/13 Thu
  • I got the same email. I don't know who gave the emails because I've been in contact with both CLRG and my region (southern). I was thinking maybe this is the background check Russell was telling us about in LA? (NT) -- co, 15:08:53 02/14/13 Thu
    • Your region sent the emails. At our recent regional mtng they collected all emails from ppl who hasn't don't the process yet. (NT) -- jh, TC, 19:03:11 02/14/13 Thu
      • Damn autocorrect! Haven't done. Not hasn't don't! Lol! (NT) -- jh, TC, 21:33:25 02/14/13 Thu
  • Ok - If you all got it, I feel better. I'll go forward with it. (NT) -- Allison, 15:20:33 02/14/13 Thu
  • Yes, it is legitimate. We are all being required to do this now. It's already been completed in the UK and Ireland. (NT) -- jh, TC, 15:25:34 02/14/13 Thu
  • Why do they need our credit card number? (NT) -- Allison, 15:28:47 02/14/13 Thu
    • You have to pay for the background check yourself. It's $49.60, I think. Just did it yesterday. It was something like that. (NT) -- jh, TC, 19:01:06 02/14/13 Thu
  • I did it today (and yes we have to pay for it -- hence the CC number) and I already got a report back saying it was done. Seems completely legit and painless! (NT) -- co, 02:07:32 02/15/13 Fri
  • YES! I got it too BUT I Didnt pass! Then they emailed me and said- oh- sorry, didnt mean to send you that. (you're certified! oh wait - not really. sorry) (NT) -- --, 04:25:14 02/15/13 Fri

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• For anyone who's passed in January, did anyone dance the Olive Hurley version of Jockey? Thank you. -- tcrg candidate, 03:18:26 02/14/13 Thu [4]
  
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  • I was told to dance both Jockey to the Fair and King of the Fairies as my traditional set dances. I was a little surprised that I was given two 'new' trads to dance but it all worked out in the end. And yes, I learnt them both from the Olive Hurley video. What I would have done differently is to practice the dances to different musicians playing the tunes. This threw me off time a little bit, because I was more focused on the steps and the tunes were barely recognizable compared to what I was used too. This will help you be more prepared and not fluster you – Passed! (NT) -- KQ, 14:50:51 02/14/13 Thu
    • Thank you very much. Jockey is the one I was most concerned about. (NT) -- op, 21:54:11 02/14/13 Thu
  • Can I find those videos on youtube or do I have to purchase a DVD from her website? (NT) -- ?, 16:22:31 02/14/13 Thu

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• Floor Covering: I need to get something to cover the floor of where I teach. Has anyone got any suggestions? Not looking to spend a fortune and its I only use this location one day a week I need to be able to put it down and take it up easily. I've heard people mention pond liner- has anyone else used this? -- TC, 09:33:24 02/12/13 Tue [3]
  
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  • Shower lining -- N, 02:56:07 02/13/13 Wed
  • shower pan liner. Buy it at Lowe's. (NT) -- DM, 20:45:34 02/13/13 Wed

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• Rince Fada and Haste to the Wedding - Wheel Movements -- Candidate, 18:57:28 02/12/13 Tue [2]
  When the book states that the dancers give right hands across in the centre, ladies'a hands above gents, is that right? Wouldn't it look really weird due to the ladies being beside each other? It seems to me that it should be leading lady and odd gent take hands in the centre (with their hands being the ones above), as to leading gent and odd lady... or am I missing something?
  

  
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  • Sorry, I have that backwards, I should have put leading lady and EVEN gent, and leading gent and EVEN lady (NT) -- op, 19:00:10 02/12/13 Tue

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• Solo teaching -- Candidate, 03:47:16 02/12/13 Tue [4]
  For those that have taken the exam, how many different steps did you prepare for each dance? For example, would 4 of each be okay? I was thinking one for beginner, one for novice, one for prize winner/entry level champ and one for higher level champ, with tweaks prepared to accommodate a boy. Would that be sufficient?
  

  
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  • I think you only need to know 2 steps per dance & level, so you will definitely be well prepared if you have 4! I was planning on making all my steps "boy friendly" with no toe walks, so I don't have to make last minute changes. (NT) -- good luck to you!, 15:10:42 02/12/13 Tue
  • I think your plan is a good one. That's what I did for the most part -- 1 step of each dance for each level. I did end up with younger champs for heavy shoe teaching and taught them an old PW step and it worked. Passed! (NT) -- co, 15:43:11 02/12/13 Tue
  • Perfect, thanks! I wasn't very clear in my first post, I did mean one step for each level of each dance. (NT) -- op, 16:00:40 02/12/13 Tue

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• I'm thinking of signing up for the TC exams. However, it's been hinted to me that candidates over 40 years old rarely pass. In the past few years, does anyone know of someone who was over 40 and passed? It's a lot of money to take the exam and I am concerned that I am too old. (I'm 43). -- No Spring Chicken, 18:53:46 02/11/13 Mon [2]
  
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  • How long have you been dancing? I think age does not matter, but being able to dance with good rhythm and technique, and to be able to verbally explain movements clearly to your students in the teaching exam is important. In your own dancing test, just dance clean, well-executed steps with good rhythm and technique. If you have to teach champions in your teaching, be prepared to explain a movement even if you can't execute it. (NT) -- A, 19:38:45 02/11/13 Mon

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• I'm hoping to take the ADCRG exam. Do I need to have a current AD sign my application form before I send it in? -- Can't find a spot for AD signature to endorse me., 16:47:59 02/11/13 Mon [2]
  
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  • At the moment current applications do by need to be signed by anyone. I assume once the new rules come in re the requirement to be actively teaching for 5 years before you can take the exam will need some sort of sign off however. (NT) -- AD Candidate, 18:19:32 02/11/13 Mon

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• Is there a message board for New ADCRG Exam Forum? What i'm trying to find out if I need to have an AD sign my application. -- Thank you for your info., 20:23:53 02/10/13 Sun [2]
  
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  • This board is for all exam candidates not just TCRG :) (NT) -- /, 10:12:10 02/11/13 Mon

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