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Damoclese
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Date Posted: 01/14/04 3:19pm
In reply to: Wade A. Tisthammer 's message, "One question (or two)" on 01/14/04 10:13am

>
>I know that the past is, and I know what the present
>is, but you have not defined "past present." What is
>it exactly?

I omitted a comma on accident. It should be past, present, not past-present.

>
>And how is time in a perpetual loop necessitate that
>every point in time never exists elsewhere then in our
>minds?

Points by mathematical definition, don't exist. A point on a circle is simply a point. It wouldn't make much sense to divide the cirlce up into three sections and say "okay, this point is in the lower hemisphere section". All of them are on a circle, and any one point is just as much on the circle as any other. Therefore, if time is circular, it wouldn't make sense to have a past or present or future designation. It gives a linear sense to something that isn't linear. It only appears linear.

A line by definition has a start point and an end point so that one can make a distinction as to where that point "is". It's either near the beggining, near the end, or in the middle. A circle has none of these and therefore, has no distinction as past, present or future. It's just a circle, or time. However you wanna think about it. There isn't any good way to divide that which neither has beginning nor end nor middle.

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Math stuff. Wade A. Tisthammer 01/16/04 9:52am

It's "point"less to discuss it with THEM -- QUITTNER, 01/16/04 11:36am

Logic? -- Damoclese, 01/16/04 8:44pm

Re: Logic? -- QUITTNER, 01/20/04 11:19am

K -- Damoclese, 01/20/04 1:09pm

Maybe the messages were not properly reported -- QUITTNER, 01/22/04 1:54pm

God spoke to me, but I forgot what he said -- Damoclese, 01/22/04 4:21pm

Was it really God? -- QUITTNER, 01/23/04 2:51pm

Spirited away. -- Damoclese, 01/24/04 7:30pm

Experience is very important -- QUITTNER, 01/27/04 11:52am

Wow. -- Ben, 01/27/04 3:43pm

Ben is WOWed. -- QUITTNER, 01/29/04 1:37pm

uh huh -- Damoclese, 01/16/04 8:42pm

More math stuff -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 01/18/04 2:54pm

Less than -- Damoclese, 01/18/04 4:13pm

Logic. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 02/12/04 10:17am

Distinguish between "pure" and "applied" Mathematics -- QUITTNER, 02/27/04 1:22pm

Misunderstanding time -- Ben, 01/18/04 5:06pm

Understanding time -- QUITTNER, 01/20/04 11:54am

Supporting my point -- Ben, 01/20/04 10:05pm

Paradox... hm. -- Duane, 02/11/04 9:54am

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>> >>I know that the past is, and I know what the present >>is, but you have not defined "past present." What is >>it exactly? > >I omitted a comma on accident. It should be past, >present, not past-present. > >> >>And how is time in a perpetual loop necessitate that >>every point in time never exists elsewhere then in our >>minds? > >Points by mathematical definition, don't exist. A >point on a circle is simply a point. It wouldn't make >much sense to divide the cirlce up into three sections >and say "okay, this point is in the lower hemisphere >section". All of them are on a circle, and any one >point is just as much on the circle as any other. >Therefore, if time is circular, it wouldn't make sense >to have a past or present or future designation. It >gives a linear sense to something that isn't linear. >It only appears linear. > >A line by definition has a start point and an end >point so that one can make a distinction as to where >that point "is". It's either near the beggining, near >the end, or in the middle. A circle has none of these >and therefore, has no distinction as past, present or >future. It's just a circle, or time. However you wanna >think about it. There isn't any good way to divide >that which neither has beginning nor end nor middle.

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