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BTL
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Date Posted: 02/24/04 6:10pm
In reply to: Ben 's message, "I can't say I take part in many of these discussions" on 02/24/04 5:52pm

>>I am new to forum life and I have shyed away from it
>>in the past and still I am wary of apostate and bitter
>>people. Who find the truth a bitter pill to swallow.
>>But the truth needs to be known so I said stuff it Ill
>>give it a try. So far so good.
>
>Well, now, you see, just the way you phrased it
>there... "the truth." That turns a lot of intelligent
>people off, because we (I humbly include myself in
>that lot) know that whenever someone claims to have
>"the truth" about something which cannot be tested,
>that person is typically closed-minded and unwilling
>to seriously consider anything which goes against what
>he already believes. This makes debating fairly
>pointless, since we know going in that such a person
>will likely not change his mind or even consider a
>viewpoint. What such a person will typically do is
>_pretend_ to hear the other side so as to have a forum
>for spreading his or her own truth.
>
>I do agree, by the way, that the truth may be a bitter
>pill to swallow, but I fear it is you who needs to do
>the swallowing. We say truth because that is what I believe it is unlike those who do not believe any one thing at all! I am humble ..so I take what you say and understand how you feel.
>
>>As administrator do you generally have no comment on
>>discussions or do you take part aswell? Did you read
>>my long mail? sorry that one was so long its just that
>>some things haved to be spelled out for those who dont
>>have time to ponder beyond doctrines and traditions
>>and factless claims.
>
>I used to have many comments, but not so much anymore.
> Most conversations like these are just the same old
>thing in a different outfit. So I let other people go
>for it if they want, and I usually keep my comments
>relatively short and simple. I've learned the hard
>way that explaining myself point-by-point and
>thoroughly is usually pretty unproductive. This for me is second nature as I have dedicated myself to spreading our meessage so I cant give up.
>
>I don't think you're necessarily talking too much, but
>if you want people to really read your posts, you
>might want to make them a bit more accessible. Save
>your more tedious explanations for someone who gets
>involved in a conversation with you and wants to
>understand more of what you're saying. It's up to
>you, of course. I only delete certain kinds of
>messages, and yours haven't been that kind, but in
>order to get people to really read what you're saying,
>you probably want to make your posts more concise, at
>least at first.
>
>Welcome to the board.
>
>Ben
Many thanks for your advise ( I will try and put it to practise.
Cheers

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There are very many "Truths" QUITTNER 02/27/04 12:27pm

And your point is? -- BTL, 02/27/04 5:44pm

And _your_ point is? -- Ben, 02/29/04 4:41pm

You missed some of the information I gave, Ben -- BTL, 03/ 1/04 9:16am

Ascetism -- Damoclese, 03/ 1/04 3:09pm
I don't wanna miss a thang -- Ben, 03/ 1/04 5:39pm

non-profit -- Can you get the Gist?, 03/ 2/04 9:06am

Baloney and cheese -- Damoclese, 03/ 2/04 10:34am

Aye! -- BTL, 03/ 2/04 11:20am

Hmmmm! -- BTL, 03/ 2/04 11:23am

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>>>I am new to forum life and I have shyed away from it >>>in the past and still I am wary of apostate and >bitter >>>people. Who find the truth a bitter pill to swallow. >>>But the truth needs to be known so I said stuff it >Ill >>>give it a try. So far so good. >> >>Well, now, you see, just the way you phrased it >>there... "the truth." That turns a lot of intelligent >>people off, because we (I humbly include myself in >>that lot) know that whenever someone claims to have >>"the truth" about something which cannot be tested, >>that person is typically closed-minded and unwilling >>to seriously consider anything which goes against what >>he already believes. This makes debating fairly >>pointless, since we know going in that such a person >>will likely not change his mind or even consider a >>viewpoint. What such a person will typically do is >>_pretend_ to hear the other side so as to have a forum >>for spreading his or her own truth. >> >>I do agree, by the way, that the truth may be a bitter >>pill to swallow, but I fear it is you who needs to do >>the swallowing. We say truth because that is what I >believe it is unlike those who do not believe any one >thing at all! I am humble ..so I take what you say and >understand how you feel. >> >>>As administrator do you generally have no comment on >>>discussions or do you take part aswell? Did you read >>>my long mail? sorry that one was so long its just >that >>>some things haved to be spelled out for those who >dont >>>have time to ponder beyond doctrines and traditions >>>and factless claims. >> >>I used to have many comments, but not so much anymore. >> Most conversations like these are just the same old >>thing in a different outfit. So I let other people go >>for it if they want, and I usually keep my comments >>relatively short and simple. I've learned the hard >>way that explaining myself point-by-point and >>thoroughly is usually pretty unproductive. This for >me is second nature as I have dedicated myself to >spreading our meessage so I cant give up. >> >>I don't think you're necessarily talking too much, but >>if you want people to really read your posts, you >>might want to make them a bit more accessible. Save >>your more tedious explanations for someone who gets >>involved in a conversation with you and wants to >>understand more of what you're saying. It's up to >>you, of course. I only delete certain kinds of >>messages, and yours haven't been that kind, but in >>order to get people to really read what you're saying, >>you probably want to make your posts more concise, at >>least at first. >> >>Welcome to the board. >> >>Ben >Many thanks for your advise ( I will try and put it to >practise. >Cheers

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