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Primordial
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Date Posted: 02/24/02 11:23am
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Good point" on 02/23/02 9:24pm

>I believe that mankinds' ability to
>manipulate its environment may eventually be the
>downfall for him, for each time we retain someone who
>most certainly would have died of illness, we give
>them the opportunity to spread whatever problem it is
>they have to someone else through means of
>procreation.

Or even how the values of society are ultimately affected? Dr. Kevorkian (sp.), the last I heard, was still in jail. But he was jailed for applying the law of nature (arguably); he was standing up for the right of death; which is certainly not a legal right according to conventional law...but understandable from the point of view of the persons wanting to end "suffering". The notion that a "righteous" society would not allow these things presents some interesting concepts to debate.

>
>For some reason, humanity has placed a large emphasis
>on life itself, that somehow the notion of dying must
>necessarily be worse than being alive, that anyone can
>mitigate any horrendous act by saying "yeah, but at
>least you aren't dead."

You leave me with the impression that you are quite devoted to science with the posts I have read on this forum. I offer up this "creative" thought.....(I enjoy these creative games when played with methodical, logical minds and I thank you for your indulgence to date). You are the only responder, so I am left to presume there is little interest in pursuing these matters. But I will as long as at least you respond! Here it is:

Will Psychology ever play a greater role in providing evidence than science will allot it now? i.e. evidence in proving certain theories (general); to evidence proving, perhaps, evolution over creation (specific)?

>
>Granted, I do not look forward to death, nor do I
>dread it. What it brings I must necessarily accept,
>and perhaps it will be the grandest party, or perhaps
>it will be the most hellish experience ever endured.
>Either way, while I'm here I intend to have a good
>time, and to live honestly so that if I am to be held
>culpable by anyone or anything I can genuinely say
>that I believed what I believed because I thought it
>was so to the best of my knowledge.

There's a wonderful epitaph in there somewhere!! I was surprised by the reference to something beyond death without mention of the possibility of "nothingness".

>....in the words of Einstein, "Time is merely a
>figament of the imagination".

.....I tip my hat; good day to you, Sir.

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Some thoughts Damoclese 02/24/02 11:44am

and again..... -- Primordial, 02/24/02 12:44pm

Clarification -- Damoclese, 02/24/02 3:28pm

Mind and Matter -- Primordial, 02/24/02 7:37pm

Hard Thoughts -- Damoclese, 02/24/02 8:08pm

matter andmind, the sequel -- Primordial, 02/25/02 12:10pm

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>>I believe that mankinds' ability to >>manipulate its environment may eventually be the >>downfall for him, for each time we retain someone who >>most certainly would have died of illness, we give >>them the opportunity to spread whatever problem it is >>they have to someone else through means of >>procreation. > > Or even how the values of society are >ultimately affected? Dr. Kevorkian (sp.), the last I >heard, was still in jail. But he was jailed for >applying the law of nature (arguably); he was standing >up for the right of death; which is certainly not a >legal right according to conventional law...but >understandable from the point of view of the persons >wanting to end "suffering". The notion that a >"righteous" society would not allow these things >presents some interesting concepts to debate. > >> >>For some reason, humanity has placed a large emphasis >>on life itself, that somehow the notion of dying must >>necessarily be worse than being alive, that anyone can >>mitigate any horrendous act by saying "yeah, but at >>least you aren't dead." > > You leave me with the impression that you are >quite devoted to science with the posts I have read on >this forum. I offer up this "creative" thought.....(I >enjoy these creative games when played with >methodical, logical minds and I thank you for your >indulgence to date). You are the only responder, so I >am left to presume there is little interest in >pursuing these matters. But I will as long as at least >you respond! Here it is: > > Will Psychology ever play a greater role in >providing evidence than science will allot it now? >i.e. evidence in proving certain theories (general); >to evidence proving, perhaps, evolution over creation >(specific)? > >> >>Granted, I do not look forward to death, nor do I >>dread it. What it brings I must necessarily accept, >>and perhaps it will be the grandest party, or perhaps >>it will be the most hellish experience ever endured. >>Either way, while I'm here I intend to have a good >>time, and to live honestly so that if I am to be held >>culpable by anyone or anything I can genuinely say >>that I believed what I believed because I thought it >>was so to the best of my knowledge. > > There's a wonderful epitaph in there >somewhere!! I was surprised by the reference to >something beyond death without mention of the >possibility of "nothingness". > >>....in the words of Einstein, "Time is merely a >>figament of the imagination". > > .....I tip my hat; good day to you, Sir.

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