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Subject: Well no actually Tooly.


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PAUL
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Date Posted: 06/17/03 5:35pm
In reply to: Tooly 's message, "Building on foundations" on 06/17/03 10:15am

>Well thanks for pointing out my errors Paul but I
>think you'll find what you actually mean is that you
>disagree with my opinions not that that I'm 'wrong'.

No its my post and Im not expressing an opinion,Im telling the truth-It might not mean
much to you but it does me,to express it as an opinion is to say I have doubts and I dont.

I
>could say that you are wrong for being part of an
>organisation that would deny a child a vital blood
>transfusion on the grounds that it goes against your
>beliefs, but I won't because it is your decision how
>important human life is. You say that

And I would say its wrong to give a child a blood transfusion when safer and more accessible treatments will do the same job.
A childs lifes important enough for us to ask for the best treatment available.


>>>How can corruption not seap into the system? Easy if
>>God is in charge of the system.<<
>
>Even if God is in charge of the system he has human
>beings as managers and the corruption and greed of
>human nature is something that cannot be denied.

Yes it can-If the organisation is run on rules
written down in Gods word the Bible.

>Also
>
>>We all have our road to travel
>>but if where on the wrong road its time to change
>>direction<
>
>I agree Paul, are you on the right road ? And if so
>who was it that painted the street signs ?

No its the only logical path for those who walk it,and all the signs are painted in Gods word.

>Paul you say beliefs are 10 a penny but give no
>reasons why your own beliefs are priceless so I can't
>really put any value on your opinion until you prove
>its worth to me.
>

Let me start with the basics Tooly-You believe
in God,do you think he created the universe
we live in?
And if so do you think he had a reason to create it,or do you think he did it on a whim?

>Regards
>Tooly
>
No worries Tooly-Keep searching the answers are out there if you want them.
>
>>PAUL-But your wrong about the bible and evolution-
>>Is it possible to believe in God and not religion? Eh
>>yes.
>>But God has always had his church on earth from the
>>earliest times,problem is finding the
>>right one cos contrary to popular opinion they
>>aint all different paths to the same place-You gave
>>the first clue to finding the right one,look for one
>>that isnt about territory,money,power or respect-Only
>>truth.
>>
>>How can corruption not seap into the system? Easy if
>>God is in charge of the system.
>>
>>I say beliefs are ten a penny and really dont mean a
>>jot if they aint true-We all have our road to travel
>>but if where on the wrong road its time to change
>>direction Tooly.
>>
>>Oh Im one of Jehovahs witnesses by the way.
>>Nice to make your acquaintance.
>>
>>>Reading some of the articles on the front page I
>>>agreed with debunking of the bible, but then I've
>>>never really believed it was 'the word of god'
>anyway.
>>>Like I mentioned when I first posted I am quite
>>>confused. Part of me beleives in god or 'something'
>>>but I have no actual basis for these beleifs and at
>>>the same time the scientific world can explain most
>>>things away. Evoloution happened and the evidence is
>>>pretty conclusive so logically I should have no
>reason
>>>whatsoever to beleive in god especialy considering I
>>>don't have any type of religious upbringing.
>Sometimes
>>>when I have 'prayed' I sometimes get the feeling I'm
>>>just empowering myself unwittingly. This is were my
>>>head is at at the moment.I stumbled on this site
>after
>>>basil posted 'the religious mind' on a forum I
>>>frequent and it intersted me so I decided to see if
>>>there was more where that came from, and there
>>>was.I'll finish up by showing you the post that that
>>>led baz to post 'religious mind' last week. It may
>>>help to explain my feelings.
>>>
>>>>Do you think that it's possible to believe in God
>but
>>>not beleive in religion ? I have a problem

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