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Subject: Have a big problem with this

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Date Posted: 21:21:04 05/03/14 Sat

Sad to see Pageant Chris embraced in NH.

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What are you talking about? Who is embracing him? (NT) No name 21:25:29 05/03/14 Sat

His Twitter would have you believe people are embracing him, but I will always keep my distance. On the Guru board, someone said that Megan C. is one of his girls. Megan could have won on her own. It's a shame she turned to him for help (NT) -- No name, 06:15:25 05/04/14 Sun

Why the negativity? (NT) No name 07:04:36 05/04/14 Sun

Chris is a wonderful human being who helps girls achieve what THEY want to achieve. He's worked with many other states with great success, we should be welcoming him with open arms in NH. He is a wonderful person. (NT) No name 07:48:26 05/04/14 Sun

He is NOT a wonderful person. Some of you are either new to NH pageantry or you have an awfully short memory and forget that Chris bashed two of our state titleholders at the national pageant, under his own name. And many suspect he was the one behind some disgusting bashing posts posted right here on this board about one of those titleholders (NT) -- No name, 08:47:57 05/04/14 Sun

Chris is awesome! He is a wonderful person and produces winners. He worked with both of New Hamphshires winners. he must be doing something right. Just sounds like someone want to start trouble. (NT) No name 08:46:21 05/04/14 Sun

The family that ran the Miss SC pageant for decades had wonderful results too--but that didn't make them wonderful people. Same can be said for the husband/wife team in Texas years ago. (NT) -- No name, 11:13:07 05/04/14 Sun
He DID NOT work with New Hampshire's winners! (NT) -- No name, 06:48:42 05/05/14 Mon

The state leaders do not like him. He has not been "embraces by NH." (NT) No name 15:31:09 05/04/14 Sun

chris No name 05:50:59 05/05/14 Mon

You are collapsing personality with results. I'd rather have someone willing to tell the hard truth, rather than be a 'yes' man to anything a 20 year old thinks is fabulous. (NT) -- No name, 07:47:36 05/05/14 Mon

Different poster, but you're speaking about something totally irrelevant to what we're talking about. No one is saying they want a "yes man." But there's a HUGE difference between a "yes man" and a person who has no respect for other contestants merely o ut of jealousy because they beat his girl (NT) -- No name, 18:45:45 05/05/14 Mon

It's perfectly relevant-- whether it's 'silly' to hire a 'douche', who produces results. If you want to win, you need to hire someone who can give you the right advice to win, rather than choose based on how emotionally immature they can get at times. I'm sure he's not for everyone, but he DOES help improve girls' performances, and that's what you hire a coach for. (NT) -- and didn't he calm down his tweets a while back?, 07:59:02 05/06/14 Tue

I have yet to see proof of him helping girls' performance (NT) -- No name, 15:44:51 05/06/14 Tue

Chris is embraced by many other states, states that have had tremendous success on the Miss America Stage. Why are we so fearful of someone who could help our New Hampshire girls become more competitive? Don't blindly judge Chris based his ability to be honest and tell the truth on social media sites like twitter - something that everyone who voy is afraid to do any way. (NT) No name 07:13:41 05/05/14 Mon

honesty vs nastiness -- No name, 09:42:09 05/05/14 Mon

I have been in his company and heard him myself trash our girls ..not constructive criticism but nasty and mean (NT) -- No name, 14:23:19 05/05/14 Mon

Chris was young a few years ago. Holding grudges from years past and saying the State Board hates him when you should not speak for them is not right. I am sure not everyone would like to be judged by their early years. In the past two years I have watched and seen a man who has given confidence to many young girls in NH. Some of these girls hide working with him because they are afraid of some who write natsy things on boards. Let's all back up and give the girls an opportunity to work with who they want. It is really their choice not yours. (NT) -- No name, 15:16:01 05/05/14 Mon

I am not the original poster..and really do not care if they work with him or not....but I am the one who said I heard him trash our girls...and sorry...he was an adult ..so no grudge but no forgiveness here either..and it was exactly two years ago soo...when did he change exactly? his comments were gross (NT) -- No name, 15:51:49 05/05/14 Mon

Obviously you have never done or said anything that you regret. People learn from mistakes. (NT) -- No name, 16:59:57 05/05/14 Mon

OMG...this is a guy running a business and frankly he lost some by being cruel as well as respect..while i support your decision and choice to employ him if you will I am entitled to my opinion. that is how it is in the business world , impression is all (NT) -- No name, 17:31:36 05/05/14 Mon
most people who regret things they have done apologize for what they do if they are truly sorry. I also don't think if it was your girl he was nasty to you would be so quick to forgive (NT) -- lets see him man up, 17:33:26 05/05/14 Mon

A-freaking-men! All the Chris defense is disgusting. He was an ass and until he owns it, he doesn't get a pass. Oh and by the way, I don't buy for a second that he was just young and now regrets it. More like he knew his reputation was trash based on the crap he said about the girls and he knew he had to change his PUBLIC persona if he wanted to continue to work as a coach (NT) -- No name, 18:52:22 05/05/14 Mon

Aww, poor little Chris was young??? Well guess what, so was Krystal and so was Regan, both of whom were bashed by him! Sorry, you don't just get a pass because you were young once. You were a loudmouth jerk who bashed girls for fans on Twitter. No one is going to quickly forget that (NT) -- No name, 18:50:14 05/05/14 Mon

they were more then bashed they were brutalized by him (NT) -- disgusted, 19:04:16 05/05/14 Mon

I have yet to hear of a state that embraces Chris. CHRIS will say they embrace him, but just because he says something doesn't mean it's true. I also have yet to hear one high-profile winner give him some credit for the win, like they do other coaches. Also, we're not talking about Chris's "honesty." We're talking about Chris's nastiness (NT) -- No name, 18:48:04 05/05/14 Mon

It's so annoying when someone has only nastiness to say about someone. It's usually they themselves that have issues. I know many girls that have worked with Chris and are so happy. He makes them feeling amazing about themselves. All I know is that is he booked solid when he comes to town because so many girls want to work with him. So even though you don't like it let others decide for themselves. (NT) No name 15:49:09 05/05/14 Mon

You're absolutely right, it is annoying when someone has only nastiness to say about someone. So where were you to tell Chris that a few years ago when he was spewing his nastiness??? (NT) -- No name, 18:53:14 05/05/14 Mon

Chris is an excellent resource and talent expert. The last Fourpoints "Men of Miss America" issue detailed a list of clients (with testimonials) who placed in the Top 10 at Miss America and MAOT. Chris is always open to communication. Email him at PageantryByChris@gmail.com. (NT) No name 20:42:15 05/05/14 Mon

This is bullying. He signed his tweets two years ago and you hide behind this board. I will work with Chris. He is excellent and I am not going to have one person trash someone who is talented. (NT) -- No name, 20:46:34 05/05/14 Mon

Please remove all this trash from this Board. (NT) -- No name, 21:07:21 05/05/14 Mon

I have a question about Chris. He has stated that he will be working with the new Miss Vermont. (I have no idea what he will be doing with Miss Vermont.) But, if this is true, he cannot work with any other state pageant winners - correct? (NT) No name 02:06:16 05/06/14 Tue

No not true at all. Think about what you just said. Bill Wolf worked with 15 girls at Miss A and Tony Bowls is working with everyone. Shea Sullivan worked with a bunch of the girl too. It's just the way the business works. Don Baker also worked with a large group of contestants. You expect the coaching/dress designers/interview people to give you their best, then it is up to the girl to roll out her plan. (NT) -- No name, 03:22:11 05/06/14 Tue

Time to move on people let's not let this one nasty person thrive on their hate. Let's encourage out new Miss New Hampshire to do wonderful things. (NT) No name 06:53:16 05/06/14 Tue

Who made you the authority when it is time to move on? How arrogant! (NT) -- No name, 08:03:41 05/06/14 Tue

You just proved my point. You sound like a worse person than Chris sounds like, (NT) -- No name, 10:48:41 05/06/14 Tue

I don't trust reports that a girl was 'bashed' anymore since it seems anything that isn't 'positive' is seen as bashing or bullying by sensitive people on the boards. Saying you don't like a girl's dress (or being a bit snarky and saying it should be burned), that she isn't ss ready (or she's got to lose weight to win), that she can't sing on pitch (or screeches), that she's not a trained dancer (or just walks around and moves her arms), that she doesn't have a strong interview (or can't interview), or that she won't make T15 at Nationals because she's overrated (or just hyped to death like Reagan was- then didn't make the cut)-- none of this is bashing. Fat, ugly, stupid- that's bashing. I don't know what he said, but until I see the tweets from back then, I'm reserving judgement. (NT) Sure, people could be a little softer in their delivery, but it doesn't mean it's bashing. 08:19:41 05/06/14 Tue

He bashed, period. It wasn't just an honest opinion. I'm not from NH, so I didn't keep track of everything he said about Regan, but that year, my contestant sang Rollin in the Deep and Chris tweeted making fun of her for cheap laughs, including a cheap line "more like rollin in the weep" with an lol. Those were the kinds of comments he made about all the girls he hated. Not just constructive stuff you'd expect from someone begging people to take their advice, but mean-spirited comments to make fun of the girls (NT) -- No name, 15:49:53 05/06/14 Tue

Chris bashed publicly, we bash behind a computer so nobody knows its us. How is it different?? He's the bigger person in the sense that he can at least sign his name and own it. (NT) No name 19:53:07 05/09/14 Fri

This is so true. At least Chris looks like he has is trying not to bash anymore. I just laugh at these people that say what they are doing on here is not. I plan on making my own opinion about him by what I have experienced with him and it has only been professional and pleasant. (NT) -- No name, 03:55:48 05/10/14 Sat

Speak for yourselves. I, for one, don't bash. I barely criticize the girls because I was one of them many years ago. I don't agree with making rude, unwarranted comments by anyone, but I think it's especially worse when it comes from a coach because they have a vested interest in doing it. Someone beat his girls so he bashes them to high heaven. Listen up ladies -- never trust a coach who trashes your rivals because you never know when he'll do the same to you with other girls (NT) -- No name, 06:51:49 05/10/14 Sat