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Those of you in Wisconsin. Was this reported to the police? I don't know Doug Black, but I do know this, if you are stalked, REPORT IT to the authorities. There is a situation on my daughter's campus similiar to this. It needs to be reported. (NT)	No name	14:29:09 08/01/15 Sat
Not with Doug B. , but where the girl said she was stalked, never reported. No one will take this accusation seriously until you go to the authorities. (NT) -- No name, 14:37:08 08/01/15 Sat She lives in New York now, go ahead and reach out to her. She speaks of this openly as does her mother. (NT) -- No name, 18:54:54 08/01/15 Sat Give me a break with the stalking thing. Christina and her Mom were a pain in everyone's butt. if you called her twice to follow up and make sure she was doing what she was obligated to do, or called to ask heer to stop doing something etc she whined to the few friends she had and next thing you know you were accused of "stalking her". Got to be the standard excuse for her not doing what she was supposed to do. She was more than happy to hav Doug B prepare her for her successful Miss A competition. How he put up with her bs is anyone's guess. AS made a mountain out of a molehill when there isn't even dust. She was a Miss W no one was sad to say good bye to. (NT) -- No name, 14:43:07 08/04/15 Tue Listen, this needs to be settled one way or another before Doug Black should be associated with any new regime. It is a liability to have that story out there. Period. (NT) -- No name, 15:23:18 08/05/15 Wed Ah, so that's what this is all about. Someone's afraid that he'll be part of a new leadership team. I know Doug, and he's made it very clear he's not part of any bid and doesn't want to be. So you can unclinch and relax. But what I find laughable about your post is you make the comment about how important it is to settle this, like this is going to get settled on an anonymous voy board. If Doug was part of a bid, that's for MAO to figure out, not for someone making the accusations while hiding behind voy forums. Gheez (NT) -- No name, 15:46:25 08/05/15 Wed You would then have to "settle" with the ten to twelve other people alleged to have stalked this queen. Good riddance to her and her drama but you cannot prove a negative. Stalking is a term of art and if her mother is a lawyer and they are accusing others of committing a crime which is UNTRUE they can be sued for defamation. The little hissy fit thrown by them when asked to comply was old then and it is even older now. Doug B has nothing to prove nor disprove and your continued attempts to discredit him with this bs are pitiful. AS seiazed on their very "loose" complaining verbage and blew it up into an unverified and untrue accusation to oust him from Wisconsin because she is a vicious, vengeful bitch. (NT) -- No name, 16:15:22 08/05/15 Wed What you describe in that last sentence is how she ran the Miss Illinois program for 9 years. Imagine what it was like for her titleholders. (NT) -- No name, 18:17:23 08/05/15 Wed Exactly (NT) -- No name, 18:47:12 08/05/15 Wed You may be disappointed to find that I agree with you. This can't be settled on the voy board, probably shouldn't be discussed on the voy board and it isn't even any of our (the voy board's) business how these questions are satisfied. It just has to be addressed by MAO if he's going to continue to be involved in ANY capacity. I neither know nor care if he's on a bid, although I have heard he is behind one, just not on the paperwork. I don't even know him. He may well be a great guy and it's clear he's invested in the organization. I'm just saying when there's an allegation like this made, you can't just ignore it. That's all. (NT) -- No name, 16:20:45 08/05/15 Wed Such a passive-agressive approach. Smearing someone with unproven gossip and demanding they prove a negative is bullshit. There are plenty of people who would line up behind him to speak up about this stalking farce as we are now emboldened to speak our own truth to power. We did not like the way he was treated in Wisconsin and have wanted him back on our team for quite awhile. This type of backstabbing, witch hunt needs to stop. (NT) -- No name, 16:28:04 08/05/15 Wed For clarification, Doug Black's treatment in WI had nothing to do with Christina Thompson. He worked with several Miss Wisconsins after her. Where he got a raw deal was getting falsely accused of taking Laura to Fran Skinner and her Dream Team. When MAO found out that Laura had worked with Fran, Amalia and MAO threw a fit and called the WI directors. He got thrown under the bus for Laura working with Fran, which was absolutely ridiculous. Fran and Doug were both helpful to Laura and she would not have won without their help. MAO's fear of Fran is ridiculous and reflects poorly on them. (NT) -- No name, 16:50:02 08/05/15 Wed Well, that makes sense. (NT) -- No name, 17:22:49 08/05/15 Wed Yep, and after Laura won Miss America, we were told that Doug could no longer be badged through Wisconsin and he couldn't be involved in our contestants Miss America prep. He had to go through Illinois since he lives down there, and Amalia wasn't going to allow that to happen. (NT) -- No name, 21:03:52 08/05/15 Wed You're reading way too much into my statement. It's sad the environment that continues to be harbored here is one of paranoia & scheming to such a degree that everyone's motives are questioned when they comment. I meant exactly what I said. I agree w/you there's been an effort here to smear him, but it isn't by me. I neither started, nor perpetuated this rumor. I'm not demanding proof. None of my business. And I'm satisfied that someone who actually has a dog in this fight can be trusted to determine whether or not the allegations are true. I'm simply saying that, in any organization where allegations like this are made, they have to be resolved. It's really that simple. Let me add that it's also despicable for someone to falsely accuse him, if that's the case. So my point was that either way, IF he's going to continue his involvement (which it sounds like he isn't), it needs to be settled so people can shut up about it. No passive aggression on my part. THAT is MY "truth to power." (NT) -- No name, 17:13:32 08/05/15 Wed If you "neither know him nor care" then why are you posting about it here ad nauseam. And if you heard he was part of a bid you heard wrong. I AM part of a bid and we asked him to be part of ours and he refused. He also has no desire to even be on an advisory board. So maybe you should give it a rest!? (NT) -- No name, 16:58:08 08/05/15 Wed Ha! Ad nauseam? Do you really believe there is one person behind every comment made about Doug Black? What is it that I just said, in that comment you just responded to, that offends you or you find unreasonable? (NT) -- No name, 17:22:04 08/05/15 Wed What bothers me is the fact that Doug did nothing wrong. He spoked the truth and now people are throwing false accusations at him. He was one of the early defections from the Miss Illinois board under Amalia's reign of terror and went back to Wisconsin, where he had worked before. But Amalia was constantly trying to have his badge access at Miss America blocked or have him blocked from judging state pageants. She used to talk openly about having his badge revoked, and just couldn't let it go. (NT) -- No name, 21:12:06 08/05/15 Wed That doesn't seem like a complaint about what I, specifically, said. I'm not throwing anything at him. It sounds like that was done well before he spoke out and has resurfaced because of someone's personal vendetta. I'm just saying once it's out there, it can't be ignored. It has to be addressed so it can go away. But I do agree that it's a lot to go through if one is falsely accused because of someone else's agenda, which it sounds like could be the case here. That said, how often does that happen on this board? There's a lot of mud-slinging based on misinformation, hurt feelings and personal agendas. Not all complaints can be addressed by MAO, obviously, but those where there's a potential liability have to be ruled out. That was my only point. (NT) -- No name, 08:30:10 08/06/15 Thu

anyone who stepped up for that story is going to get trashed that's Amalia's way of dealing with everything (NT)	No name	18:21:15 08/01/15 Sat
Only on this small board; cannot do a thing to them otherwise. (NT) -- No name, 18:27:33 08/01/15 Sat Ive also heard of the Doug Black stalking situation. I dont think it was taking to the authorities, but it's a very true story. WGN should've done their research on who these 8 dumbasses they had on this- so called -"panel." the LAST thing they are is brave and courageous. (NT) -- No name, 21:29:18 08/02/15 Sun This IS true, Christina's mother is an Atty. and I'm sure she'd be willing to speak about this. (NT) -- No name, 23:37:40 08/02/15 Sun Bring her here! I'm so tired of the posting without facts. The WGN story was factual they showed documents, people reported based on their experience. They should go to WGN then and report it or stop hiding behind this voy board! (NT) -- No name, 18:18:27 08/03/15 Mon Dumbasses? Really? Do you not think that Mark S. and his team poured through hundreds of letters from 9 years of volunteers, parents, formers, etc... before even agreeing to do this story? Why don't you watch it again, and see that while he was professional and had his reporter face on, the obvious disdain he had for this witch was apparent! Wouldn't want to be her going to the grocery store anytime soon! Oh, and you might want to rethink those vanity plates AS! Also, Panera in Algonquin doesn't want you in there anymore on your cell phone loudly announcing who you are either! (NT) -- No name, 17:10:45 08/03/15 Mon Wow...is this a personal threat to someone on a pageant voy forum? Classy bunch Illinois! (NT) -- No name, 11:04:39 08/04/15 Tue Can you READ??!! Sound it out, maybe? DU-DU-DUM--DUMB-ASS-ASSES. Got it? Yep! That's what u mean (NT) -- No name, 12:00:25 08/04/15 Tue (I) (NT) -- No name, 12:01:31 08/04/15 Tue Wow Beth Gollohon.... You're pretty transparent! Sales in the Walmart recently. Don't threaten Beth. (NT) -- No name, 12:50:59 08/04/15 Tue Ohhh...Beth. Really? She was always such a large classy broad. Hang it up! Go stock a shelf. (NT) -- No name, 12:59:09 08/04/15 Tue I've known Mr. Black for over 20 years, and I don't believe you. It's pretty pathetic how AS and her loyal toadies are trying to deflect and discredit anyone who is too smart to be manipulated and controlled by them. But you know what? I'll play along with your little game. Let's pretend that what you say is true and that Mr. Black is a real scumbag and schmuck. What does that have to do with the WGN story? The story focused on 241 signatures on the online petition; the princess being denied access; over 70 resignations of the state pageant staff; Miss Illinois never getting an accounting for her appearance fees; Amalia changing the by-laws to give herself all day-to-day operating power; tassels being cut off of Megan Ervin's blouse as punishment, privacy invasion and it showed three of the most recent Miss Illinois titleholders having secret meetings with Marc Angeli to discuss how they were treated during their year.....part 2 to come (NT) -- No name, 17:27:37 08/03/15 Mon part 2........Your rantings are completely irrelevant to the overall story, and even if true don't change the content of the story one single bit! So you can come on here and continue making anonymous accusations on a voy board, but the content of the WGN story speaks for itself regardless. And in the process you make yourself look pretty desperate to make yourself look better. (NT) -- No name, 17:32:16 08/03/15 Mon The POINT is....the WGN story is a complete load of crap and some of ( ALL OF) the people on the panel are not credible. You have a stalker, some chic that got fired because ahe bounced checks and the Teen ED, a few other chics that didnt follow the rules and were put on probation, a pissed off parent ( what else is new?). The point it not to deflect....the point is, people are taking what these 8 people are saying and running with it. They are NOT reliable resources and these stories are made up, hearsay or completely embellished. People are STILL afraid to speak the truth....what sort of backlash would there be? Especially now with AS out? They're cowards! The petition included A LOT of people that never even met AS and had absolutely nothing to do with the organization. Friends of friends of friends signed that thing. It's not too difficult to get 250 signatures. People just believe any old bullshit these days..... (NT) -- No name, 10:57:30 08/04/15 Tue No, what happened was the WGN story was poorly written. I saw the emails & how the Little Girl was treated, why because I was part of the Princess program. I was hoping that the truth would come to light because I do fear coming forward still. Instead WGN wrote some bull crap piece when they had the evidence in their hands of what AS really did to that family. (NT) -- No name, 15:57:26 08/04/15 Tue Bull, no you weren't. You didn't see the emails because if you did, you would know about the meeting with Joe, Stephanie, Lovena and the other Board members. Where Amalia showed the emails. WGN NEVER even asked IsA about this. Jane Ann BLABBED to Marc all lies to save her friend Linda Byassee. Linda was brought in BY Amalia to speak to her about this. So get your facts STRAIGHT WGN and others. Or, call the Princess ED who knows ALL about this. -- No name, 17:39:38 08/04/15 Tue Are you that stupid to believe that AS showed everything that was written? They were all in there trying to save their own asses. And if this was all a lie, why did the Princess ED, in front of a large group of other Mom's, tell the Princesses Mom that AS had called her late Thursday night and was now allowing the Little Girl on stage for Fri night? Maybe you need to get your facts straight. (NT) -- No name, 21:23:57 08/04/15 Tue Tell us the true story then. You know it all and have accused others. Speak up or quit accusing people yourself. (NT) -- No name, 21:30:55 08/04/15 Tue Lisa...you signed your reply. Please set us all straight since you know what really happened. (NT) -- No name, 21:42:05 08/04/15 Tue I'm going to say this again. If you are stalked, then go to the authorities. It is only hearsay then and I don't believe you! Why would not not take it to the authorities if it were this big of a deal or are you making it out to be more than it is. (NT) -- No name, 18:16:11 08/03/15 Mon As the poster above you stated, someone's desperate to make themselves look better. That's what this is all about. (NT) -- No name, 19:02:19 08/03/15 Mon

Subject: Oh yes, and herpe face Doug Black who stalked Christina Thompson, Miss Wisconsin should be trusted. All of us in Wisconsin know better!!!!!
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