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Subject: This post from further down really is telling.......


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Date Posted: 19:54:17 08/04/15 Tue

Further down, someone posted the following reply, which needs to be highlighted in its own separate post and gets to the heart of the problems within the Miss Illinois Program the last nine years:

"The POINT is....the WGN story is a complete load of crap and some of ( ALL OF) the people on the panel are not credible. You have a stalker, some chic that got fired because ahe bounced checks and the Teen ED, a few other chics that didnt follow the rules and were put on probation, a pissed off parent ( what else is new?). The point it not to deflect....the point is, people are taking what these 8 people are saying and running with it. They are NOT reliable resources and these stories are made up, hearsay or completely embellished. People are STILL afraid to speak the truth....what sort of backlash would there be? Especially now with AS out? They're cowards! The petition included A LOT of people that never even met AS and had absolutely nothing to do with the organization. Friends of friends of friends signed that thing. It's not too difficult to get 250 signatures. People just believe any old bullshit these days....."

This post could only come from about three or four different people. The denial speaks volumes. So now they are claiming that everyone who appeared in the WGN story is not credible, as well as the people who signed the petition.

To the poster of this drivel, YOU miss the point. For the 11 people who appeared on WGN to speak out, there are at least ten people who didn't step forward who had similar experiences. I was first contacted by WGN this past April, and for everything they asked me on the phone, they asked for proof or verification. This report was not thrown together in a couple of days and went way beyond the people shown on camera. WGN spent MONTHS pouring through individual testimonies, letters, emails, etc. to validate their story. We've also confirmed that between letters to MAO, the on-line petition and meetings with Angeli that eight Miss Illinois titleholders stepped forth to express their frustration over their year. Tell me how many other states in the history of Miss America have had EIGHT titleholders in nine years demand change!

The real pathetic part is how deep the denial runs, when the numbers of people negatively impacted speaks volumes. Guess what? If all of those people who left the organization over the last nine years were bad and eight out of nine Miss Illinois titleholders were "spoiled brats" with "another pissed-off parent" that still reflects poorly on A.S. and her board of hand-picked puppets. After all, it was A.S. and her Board who were responsible for bringing in volunteers and selecting the judges who were supposed to give then an "manageable" Miss Illinois. So if all of those people were bad, then all of this still falls back to their FAILED LEADERSHIP!!!!

To this small group of people still in denial and trying to claim that the WGN story was fabricated b.s.: you really need help. I don't make that statement as a cut down or slam. I say that constructively, in that you really need some counseling or some sort of help to face the reality of the bad culture you created within this program for nine long years. I take mental health seriously, and the best thing you can do is just get yourself some help and move on. Volunteer in different venues; throw yourself into your job; spend time with your family; take a vacation, but for your own sakes, move on and accept the responsibility. Learn from the failure and move on.

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btw, original poster here. I did not go on camera because my employer would not allow it. But I did talk to WGN multiple times during their investigation. (NT)No name20:03:13 08/04/15 Tue

Telling me I need therapy, I do take as a slam. As a person that has been a witness to this organization for many years along side AS.....i am well aware of the situations, experiences and relationships she had had throughout. I have seen how this organization has always been a revolving door....even prior to AS. I dont care how much research or how much digging WGN did. I dont care how many people were contacted and didnt go on camera- due to whatever reason. What i do know are those people on that panel. What i do know are the stories that habe been embellished. What i do,know is that some of those people DO NOT deserve to have their voice heard .... (NT)No name20:47:07 08/04/15 Tue

Here is a bit of advice, If AS think that what was reported was untrue and cast her in a false light then she should sue everyone. Let the truth come out in a court of law. But I bet she can't handle the truth. The only thing constant in nine years of titelholders' hell is AS. (NT)No name16:23:43 08/05/15 Wed


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