As another poster said earlier, we may never know how or why this happened, but what I find most interesting about this thread (and others like it in the past two months) is that not one person has defended Crystal's selection as a good one. One said she's nice. One said we should support her. One said she's a "pretty girl." But no one...and I mean no one...has said she was a legitimate contender, a good student, a devoted advocate of her platform, talented, poised, outstanding, etc. Her win is tainted by the stench left by the previous administration and is something I think we're all politely trying to ignore. So while we may not understand the outcome, I repeat my earlier statement that we can only hope MAO will choose great leadership who will strive to rebuild our program's credibility and make sure this never happens again. -- ILLINOIS Pageants Board

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I roll my eyes at the conspiracy theories regarding her win. Did anyone ever think that no one manipulated the outcome, and perhaps it was just a bad set of judges? Or perhaps in a field of contestants with offsetting strengths and weaknesses, Crystal was "good enough" in each category to emerge as the most consistent across all categories of competition? Like it or not, she's Miss Illinois, so everyone just needs to make the best of it. (NT)	No name	14:30:41 08/25/15 Tue


Actually all of those things crossed our minds and that's certainly the best case scenario. Nevertheless, how it's possible that someone "just good enough" won is still perplexing and an outcome I think most would like to avoid in the future. You're right, though, we have to make the best with what we've got and keep going, but what a depressing thought. She was "just good enough," so we have to "make the best of it." Pitiful. I look forward to the day we have another outstanding Miss IL that we can all be excited about sending to AC. (NT)	No name	14:47:06 08/25/15 Tue
well for all of you who sat back and were too afraid to take any action for 9 years, this is what you get in return for not sticking your necks out. So you get what you deserve. In the meantime, Crystal is the current Miss Illinois. Support her with your best efforts and give her the best year possible, under the circumstances. (NT) -- No name, 15:51:13 08/25/15 Tue First, you know nothing about where my neck has been. And second, during the past nine years, I can't think of a single winner who has been of this low caliber. I think that was the OP's point. So, I'm not sure how you're relating one to the other. Assuming you're one who stuck your neck out, is this what you deserve as well? We're all in this together. (NT) -- No name, 16:02:28 08/25/15 Tue I wasn't one of the people who did the wGN interview, but I did write MAO and left the program due to the previous leader. And I don't care where your neck has been, nor do I want to touch it. BUT my point is that when you allow the program to flounder for nine years under a leader who exercises poor and erratic judgement, AND who controlled every single judge's selection for the state panel, you get the result that comes with that. It's not Crystal's fault, but rather the failure of bad leadership. So accept it for what it is and give Crystal your best support. I am. (NT) -- No name, 19:10:53 08/25/15 Tue Well, you implied I haven't stuck my neck out and yet you don't know if I have or not. I didn't "allow" anything. So to say that I, or any of these posters, "deserve" this is to presume to know a lot about people you can't even identify. (NT) -- No name, 20:50:18 08/25/15 Tue Whatever......it's not about you, OK!? And in a "back at ya" way I'm going to say that unless you were sitting in the judges interviews at Miss Illinois, you have no clue on how Crystal conducted herself with the judges and are equally off-base in your presumptions about the outcome of the pageant. (NT) -- No name, 21:49:30 08/25/15 Tue You're the one that made it about other people when you said it was what they deserve! That wasn't me. That was you. (NT) -- No name, 08:58:36 08/26/15 Wed You know, reading your posts I feel like I'm listening to 12 year old junior high girls in action....."That wasn't me, that was you"........."you started it first" (NT) -- No name, 10:13:39 08/26/15 Wed Because I ask you to make sense, own your statements and have a clear direction in your line of thinking? It appears when you're held accountable, you like to throw the ball back in my court. I'm simply not catching it. I guess you're perceiving my statements at the level of which you are capable. Again, not my problem. (NT) -- No name, 14:15:11 08/26/15 Wed So what you're insinuating is that Crystal is punishment? The booby prize, if you will? (NT) -- No name, 16:13:11 08/25/15 Tue No one seems to be saying that Crystal is the booby prize. I think they are saying that AS controlled every bit of who was selected to judge Miss Illinois. The outcome will most likely match the quality of her choice in judges. (NT) -- No name, 21:57:59 08/25/15 Tue When someone essentially says "This (Crystal) is what you all deserve for allowing nine years of AS to happen," they are insinuating that this undesirable result is their punishment. But I agree with your points about the judging. (NT) -- No name, 09:05:04 08/26/15 Wed