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Subject: I think you people would even rip to shreds a female version of Jesus Christ, if she were the reigning Miss Illinois. And we wonder why contestant quality is dropping throughout the program.

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I think you would like to think that instead of accepting the alternative. (NT) No name 19:08:50 09/03/15 Thu

Oh, yes! The decline in contestant quality has nothing to do with the way the program has been run for the past nine years. Give me a break! There were plenty of quality contestants at state this year. This titleholder is just a symptom of the problem that has plagued our system. It's not entirely her fault, but let's not pretend this contestant is typical of the ones we usually send to MA. (NT) No name 19:26:04 09/03/15 Thu

Illinois managed to eek out two top tens in the past 9 years, and that's it. The days of Illinois being a competitive state need to be rebuilt from scratch. Crystal isn't any worse than some of the other titleholders that have been sent to Miss America over the past 9 years, and I say that as someone who's seen them all. She may not be your choice for Miss illinois, but so what? Give it a rest. And as for all of those "lies and deep dark secrets" I do not accept something posted on a voy board as proof. When you provide substantiated proof via a legit venue, then (and only then) will I take them seriously. The comment about female Jesus is right on the mark. (NT) -- No name, 19:38:59 09/03/15 Thu

And who are you that anyone should provide proof to you or care what you think? Or that anyone should give it a rest because you said so? Fortunately for me, I don't really care if you take these assertions seriously or not. I can claim responsibility for only one of the above posts. So the idea that it's only one person who is aware of the ways in which Crystal embellished (or whatever) her education or platform is simply not true. Let's be honest, most of the world doesn't care about Miss America, much less Miss Illinois, so it's understandable people would come here to talk about it. At least they're politely keeping it off FB. (NT) -- No name, 20:02:33 09/03/15 Thu
Yes, Miss Illinois does need to rebuild the program from scratch, and I think that we are all hoping that it can be done after years of bad leadership. However, to act as though the last 9 were unworthy because only two made the cut is one of the dumbest things I've read on this board. They all did a fantastic job as titleholders, despite the daily drama that they had to deal with just to be Miss Illinois. Many had the potential to do well, but who knows what went on that may have affected their preparation. Amalia was notorious for talking badly about her own contestant to Miss America before they even got to nationals. We also have to accept that the national organization has changed immensely in the last 9 years. (NT) -- No name, 20:23:57 09/03/15 Thu
Oh please. Dont even try to compare her to the others. They had educations in progress with goal expectations of life. They traveled the state alone and made contacts to improve the program and they deemed a professional appearance and represented the state with poise. (NT) -- No name, 22:15:44 09/05/15 Sat

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Subject: I think you people would even rip to shreds a female version of Jesus Christ, if she were the reigning Miss Illinois. And we wonder why contestant quality is dropping throughout the program.
Author: No name	[ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:16:17 09/03/15 Thu In reply to: 's message, "Crystal says (Click In) she's attending Southeast Missouri State University ....Since when? And she looks like an old lady in the Welcome Video." on 13:11:20 09/03/15 Thu [ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ]

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I think you would like to think that instead of accepting the alternative. (NT)	No name	19:08:50 09/03/15 Thu


Oh, yes! The decline in contestant quality has nothing to do with the way the program has been run for the past nine years. Give me a break! There were plenty of quality contestants at state this year. This titleholder is just a symptom of the problem that has plagued our system. It's not entirely her fault, but let's not pretend this contestant is typical of the ones we usually send to MA. (NT)	No name	19:26:04 09/03/15 Thu
Illinois managed to eek out two top tens in the past 9 years, and that's it. The days of Illinois being a competitive state need to be rebuilt from scratch. Crystal isn't any worse than some of the other titleholders that have been sent to Miss America over the past 9 years, and I say that as someone who's seen them all. She may not be your choice for Miss illinois, but so what? Give it a rest. And as for all of those "lies and deep dark secrets" I do not accept something posted on a voy board as proof. When you provide substantiated proof via a legit venue, then (and only then) will I take them seriously. The comment about female Jesus is right on the mark. (NT) -- No name, 19:38:59 09/03/15 Thu And who are you that anyone should provide proof to you or care what you think? Or that anyone should give it a rest because you said so? Fortunately for me, I don't really care if you take these assertions seriously or not. I can claim responsibility for only one of the above posts. So the idea that it's only one person who is aware of the ways in which Crystal embellished (or whatever) her education or platform is simply not true. Let's be honest, most of the world doesn't care about Miss America, much less Miss Illinois, so it's understandable people would come here to talk about it. At least they're politely keeping it off FB. (NT) -- No name, 20:02:33 09/03/15 Thu Yes, Miss Illinois does need to rebuild the program from scratch, and I think that we are all hoping that it can be done after years of bad leadership. However, to act as though the last 9 were unworthy because only two made the cut is one of the dumbest things I've read on this board. They all did a fantastic job as titleholders, despite the daily drama that they had to deal with just to be Miss Illinois. Many had the potential to do well, but who knows what went on that may have affected their preparation. Amalia was notorious for talking badly about her own contestant to Miss America before they even got to nationals. We also have to accept that the national organization has changed immensely in the last 9 years. (NT) -- No name, 20:23:57 09/03/15 Thu Oh please. Dont even try to compare her to the others. They had educations in progress with goal expectations of life. They traveled the state alone and made contacts to improve the program and they deemed a professional appearance and represented the state with poise. (NT) -- No name, 22:15:44 09/05/15 Sat