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Subject: Re: Idiot Factchecker's real name is Tiki Tiki and he used to post the same idiocy here last year


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DonaldK to Jon
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Date Posted: 17:37:15 11/19/20 Thu
In reply to: Jon 's message, "Re: Idiot Factchecker's real name is Tiki Tiki and he used to post the same idiocy here last year" on 17:24:51 11/19/20 Thu

Jon,
Can you give me an idea what kind of sexual fooling around took place?
Have ant other readers had that ecperience?

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Terry
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Date Posted: 02:30:22 11/20/20 Fri

My first summer camp was a series of other firsts, over a two week period.
I was a young 13, only son of very middle class, good living parents.
Camp was my first time I saw same age and older boys naked.
My first communal showers with other boys.
My first shared toilet experiences. Sitting, not just standing at a urinal, like at school.
My first experience seeing other boys, young and older, masturbating themselves and others.
My first masturbation experience. Full contractions and sensations, no spurting, self generated.
Mt first masturbation experience. Full contractions and sensations, at the hands of other boys, my age and older.
My first observation of ejactulations.
My first experiences with oral sex, both giving and receiving.
Selection, with another boy, as a judge of a Jerk Off race competition between five other boys.
I held the trophy money: $5.00.
Boys sat on foot lockers. A length of brown construction paper was put down on the floor in front of them.
When my partner "official" said to go, they began masturbating. I didn't take long before one boy got up from his footlocker and went down on his knees over the paper and began to shoot off.
He was clearly the winner.
Then is seemed like the other four boys all got down at the same time.
I'm still glad that one boy finished first, because I could not say which boy finished next.
It was my first look at 8mm black and white porno film reels. One of the guys had six of them.
He would load them into a plastic, hand held viewer that you held to the light, and turned a hand crank on the side.
The films were poor quality, but showed guys and girls fucking.
It took two hands. One to hold the viewer, and one to turn the crank. Another camper held a flashlight up to the white plastic screen so you could see the film.
You then rewound the reel and held the light for him.
It didn't happen to me, but some of the guys actually came in their pants, watching those reels.
I remember all of those experiences.
I went for three summers.
It was fun to be an "older" guy the next two summers.
Oh yea, we also had swimming, with suits, sports - a lot of them, crafts, rifle range and nightly campfires.
I don't remember a lot about all that stuff.
Could not happen today.
Or could it?
What do you all think?
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Sam to Terry
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Date Posted: 03:07:48 11/20/20 Fri

Are you saying that all this went on with the counselors blessing since it was all open, and did they also join you in the fun?

This would never have happened at our summer camp, although mutual masturbation was common among us young boys but always in secret.
Yes, it was a time of exploring and making discoveries, not just in the woods but also among ourselves. But like I said it was always done out of sight of our counselors.
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Terry to Sam
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Date Posted: 03:53:36 11/20/20 Fri

Never in sight or sound of any staff.
The closest encounter we had happened when one of the kitchen staff, a female, had bed check. This was after campfire.
Usually, it was one of the guy staff who just came by, looked in and asked if everybody was there.
We always said yes.
If he said what about that bunk or another, we would just say "Bathroom or shower". and he would go on.
This lady opened the door, had a clipboard and a spotlight.
She asked where so and so were, and we said the usual.
She came in, walked back to the toilet/shower room and came in.
I was on owne of the toilets.
We all yelled "Get out", but she walked right by me and another kid, sitting on the toilet, to look into the shower.
There were some both the older and younger guys in there and she started checking off names.
The guys yelled at her to get out, and some of the older guys used profane language.
Me and my fellow camper, on the toilets, crossed our arms over our laps.
She checked off her list and left.
The next day, we were all called down to GHQ, the camp directors office.
She was there, and the Director yelled at us for being rude to her, and using bad and curse word language at her.
We got "extra duty", cleaning trash cans in the dining hall, and stuff like that.
She quit not long after.
Every day, during morning crafts, the first period of activities after breakfast, each cabin was inspected by the staff.
Your cabin would be awarded a gold, red or yellow eagle, that would be attached to the "Totem Pole" outside your cabin.
That had to do with camp chore assignments, under direction of the groundskeeper.
Bathrooms and showers were cleaned by campers, with stuff supplied by staff, before we went to activities.
Other than that, adult staff did not enter or associate with campers in the cabins.
Short answer: No staff were involved with any sexual stuff, at least while I was there for three two week summers.
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Jamie to Terry
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Date Posted: 05:03:34 11/20/20 Fri

I won one of those races in 1956.
The other guy was from another cabin, and they boasted he could beat any body.
Our treasure pot was only 2 dollars, held by a tent mate.
I won.
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Chuck to Jamie
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Date Posted: 17:22:47 11/20/20 Fri

I wish I had two dollars for every time I jerked off, back then.
I could have retired early.
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Terry to Jamie
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Date Posted: 15:19:03 11/20/20 Fri

Jamie,
Where did you do the jerk off races.
In the bathroom,outside, or in the sleeping area.
How many campers were usually present?
How old were you?
Can you give us more of the details of your races?
Thanks
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Simon to Terry
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Date Posted: 19:05:10 11/20/20 Fri

Terry, I see, at your 13, in Summer Camp, you opened for yourself "new boyish world". Were you more admired or upset
then? Was something very abominable for you?
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Terry to Simon
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Date Posted: 19:28:05 11/20/20 Fri

Nothing abominable for me at all.
New campers were assigned an older cabin mate as a sort of "Big Brother".
My big brother guided me through the first few days.
He was the first other person to show me how to masturbate, and the first other person to masturbate me.
In my third camping year, I was assigned a "Little Brother".
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Donna
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Date Posted: 14:36:26 11/21/20 Sat

Is Terry's story typical of boys experiences at summer camps?
Has anyone else had those type of experiences?
Or were they unique to him and his particular camp?
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Timothy to Donna
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Date Posted: 15:24:35 11/21/20 Sat

I was in Summer camps 3 times - when I was 13, 14, 15.
I had almost the same experience and most part of Terry's memories was in my life then too
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Frank to Dinna
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Date Posted: 16:14:01 11/21/20 Sat

I went to a boys camp when I was 14. Things were pretty much as Terry said, except I don't remember any oral sex/ I didn't see ant or do any.
Everything else he said is accurate.
Some guys did race each other to see who could cum first, but there was no money bets.
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Donna to Frank
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Date Posted: 17:07:01 11/21/20 Sat

Frank, How old were the boys in your tent/cabin. were they all about your age, or were there younger and older in together?
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Frank to Danna
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Date Posted: 17:13:50 11/21/20 Sat

I think we were 12 - 14.
They were cabins with bathrooms and showers.
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Curious to naughty campers
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Date Posted: 17:42:38 11/21/20 Sat

Were the younger boys of 12 also involved in this sexual play with older boys?

Were any of the HS and college age counsellors ever involved in this sexual play with the boy campers?

When the boys were caught in this sexual play were they punished by the counsellors?

Did this ever happen with boys who had female counsellors?
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Frank to Curious
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Date Posted: 17:58:25 11/21/20 Sat

All boys were involved at some time. Maybe just looking and watching at first, then touching and allowing themselves to be touched.
All cabin counselors were older males. None of them were involved in any of the sexual activities, that I knew of.
Nobody, at least in our cabin, were ever "caught" or punished for ant sexual play.
It wasn't like that was the only thing going on.
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Peter
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Date Posted: 19:01:22 11/21/20 Sat

I was in Summer camp the first times at 13. I was very shy boy boy then and in beginning was very embarrassed to poop in front other boys and even take shower with them. However, older boys forbid other to tease me and after a few days I almost lost my shyness and was as all. I was taught to masturbate and some other "boyish matters". It was important time for my development.
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Frank to Peter
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Date Posted: 19:08:51 11/21/20 Sat

Peter, who taught or showed you how to masturbate?
Did you ejaculate the first time, and was it in bed, in the showers, with a group, or just another camper.
Please share.
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Peter
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Date Posted: 19:56:08 11/21/20 Sat

Two from older boys taught me. They showed me as can do it, then one of them did it to other. Both ejaculated but when I tried do myself I got a little drips only. One of boys took my penis and worked until I was ejaculated too. I recall, I had mix feeling embarrassment/ fun/ agitation/pleasure...
It was first times when someone (except mom ) touched my penis. Boys weren't rude and I understood they want to help me and teach me really.
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Johnny to Peter
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Date Posted: 20:42:43 11/21/20 Sat

My embarrassment was not from guys seeing me with a boner, but was sitting on the toilet, between two other guys pooping.
Everybody just talking and looking at each other like they were at the dinner table.
Sooner or later, somebody would ask to
Please pass the toilet paper, and everyone watched as you wiped your ass.
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Peter to Johnny
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Date Posted: 21:53:14 11/21/20 Sat

You are right. The firsts days in Summer camp I was very embarrassed when had to poop together with other boys. We had toilet with six holes without any barriers and each morning (it was part of morning hygiene) six boy were sitting and trying to poop and next six were standing in front them waiting their turn. Wiping in front such big company was most embarrassing for me
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Donna to Peter
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Date Posted: 22:59:27 11/21/20 Sat

If a boy just had to pee, did he still have to stand in line for one of the holes?
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Peter to Donna
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Date Posted: 23:22:17 11/21/20 Sat

We had linear urinal on the floor along wall and could to pee there, however our counselors told each boy ought to try to have #2 in morning ( my mom considered so too and it wasn't new for me) and each boy in morning had to sit over "poop hole" near other boys.
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Donna to Peter
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Date Posted: 23:27:04 11/21/20 Sat

Were all of the counselors male, or were there some female counselors at the latrine in the morning?
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Peter do Donna
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Date Posted: 23:35:56 11/21/20 Sat

They were male in age 20-30
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Frank to Peter and Donna
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Date Posted: 23:54:37 11/21/20 Sat

Our counselors were mostly teachers, who had the summer off, or grad students doing a paper. Some lived off campus, or in small trailers on campus.
Others lived in a counselors cabin, with their own room, private bathrooms and showers, and TV. Black and white, rabbit ears and only got a signal at night.
No counselors lived in any of the camper cabins, so there was lots of opportunity for boy/boy play stuff.
Counselors had a separate section, off of the main dining hall. but went through the same buffet line.
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Peter to Frank
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Date Posted: 00:09:29 11/22/20 Sun

Yes, night was "boys time". Nobody troubled us and all plays (without big noisy only) among boys were acceptable for us - innocent and, if honestly, for older boys non-innocent too
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Larry to Terry
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Date Posted: 00:38:56 11/22/20 Sun

I enjoyed your listing of "Camping firsts".
We didn't use brown construction paper for a masturbation contest target, we used the red FIRE bucket that was filled with sand.
It was set on the floor, and the guys racing would jerk off into the bucket. so everyone could see who shot off first.
Usually one or two of the younger kids were on the floor next to the bucket to score who they saw shot off first raising their hand and pointing to the winner.
Usually, seeing the first boy ejaculate would be enough for the other contestants to start cumming also.
No prize for second or later places.
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Larry to Terry
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Date Posted: 00:42:12 11/22/20 Sun

I did everything on your list except oral sex.
I watched other guys do it though.
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Date Posted: 03:25:27 11/22/20 Sun

It is hard for me to believe that 14 year old boys would openly masturbate in full view of other same age, younger or older boys, let alone ejaculate with other campers watching.
Can anyone else support these reports?
Please.
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William to Susan
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Date Posted: 03:36:20 11/22/20 Sun

Susan, I'm 23 now and believe me, boys at 14-15 when they are out of adults control, can do such experiments which would be reason of deep horror for their mothers. I myself did little more than was in Terry's list, It happened no in caps only but in home, during sleepovers too.
Susan, it isn't good, it isn't bad, it's boys' development
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Susan to William
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Date Posted: 03:54:26 11/22/20 Sun

At what age did you start doing the things in Terry's list.
Are you saying you would openly masturbate with other boys watching you, and they would do the same?
Still hard for me to accept.
Sorry
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Sam to Susan
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Date Posted: 10:11:46 11/22/20 Sun

Susan, you are right. I went to several camps and open masturbation, let alone masturbation competitions as described by some here never happened at the camps I went to or that I knew of.
Yes, there was some masturbation as one would expect with boys but these were always done secretly between maybe two boys if not alone, but not in large groups as described here. Some boys would sleep in each others bed at night to play with each other but again these were few.

I can't imagine such orgies as described here taking place without the counsellors not knowing about it.
The counsellors at camps are responsible for the boys safety and behavior and I would hardly believe that they would not be monitoring the boys all the time.
Fights could break up among the boys, or dangerous play and similar, so they were always kept an eye on, especially when they were in groups, including the shower rooms.
I am not saying that what is described here never happened, but it would have been rare indeed.

About your other question, yes, we had female counsellors up to age 12 and some boys would flaunt themselves in front of the girl counsellors for fun while they supervised us in the showers, but open masturbation would not have been allowed.
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George to Susan
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Date Posted: 14:30:08 11/22/20 Sun

Susan
It happened as Terry described.
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Date Posted: 16:19:52 11/22/20 Sun

When I went to camp for first time, I knew nothing about masturbation, Nothing.
By end of week I was masturbating with others.
Could not spurt but enjoyed feelings of orgasm.
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Date Posted: 16:24:05 11/22/20 Sun

I was 12-14 then, after starting puberty
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Date Posted: 16:45:46 11/22/20 Sun

Terry's list included a reference to oral genital contact.
Did you ever see that, or did you ever participate in that yourself?

If yes, were they same age, older or younger campers.
Did you do it as well as receive it done to you?
Did others see you doing it?
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George to Susan
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Date Posted: 18:45:13 11/22/20 Sun

When you're a first time camper and living in with other boys for the first time, and seeing other guys touching each other, boldly walking around fully erect, and openly masturbating with other guys watching, it's hard not to join in.
Once you experience the excitement of having other guys looking at your erect penis, and your own pleasurable sensations you get from masturbating, it's easy just to join in.
Watching an older boy, who may just be 14, but more developed, with pubic hair, standing there, openly mutually nasturbating with a couple other guys is very stimulating, especially if you are invited to join them.

if they invite you to join in.
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Jimmy to George and Susan
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Date Posted: 19:22:54 11/22/20 Sun

I think George hit on a valid point.
Acceptance and recognition by other campers, especially the older, if only a year or two older, was very important.
The first year, or younger campers would naturally desire acceptance. That desire would override a resistance to sexual activity, and a boy would surrender to the norm and actively participate.
Once he experienced the pleasurable sensations, he became a willing camp participant.
When he returned to home from camp, he would return to more socially acceptable activity, and sexual activity, such as masturbation, became a more personal and private
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David to All
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Date Posted: 20:07:00 11/22/20 Sun

I did stuff at camp, like masturbate with other guys, younger and older, walk around naked with my boner pointing at the moon, because everybody else was doing it too.
I would never think about doing those things back in school.
Never.
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William to Susan and everyone here
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Date Posted: 01:11:25 11/23/20 Mon

For boys age about 13 when usually starting puberty is unusual age. I already was embarrassed when mom gave me bath or when she wanted to check cleanliness of my behind after pooping, but I had no any embarrassment among boys after a few days in camp. Yes, we did almost everything and for us (al least, for me) our activity was part of our independence and "male development". It was so.
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Susan to William
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Date Posted: 21:35:50 11/22/20 Sun

I'm still asking about oral sex among campers.
Did you see it?
Did you participate in it?
How old were the participants?
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Sam
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Date Posted: 03:03:34 11/23/20 Mon

I think oral sex would have been rare among boys that age. Maybe a very few who had homosexual tendencies.
Same for butt sex, which has not been mentioned.
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Larry
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Date Posted: 03:21:18 11/23/20 Mon

I never saw actual oral sex activity.
I don't think anybody did actual anal penetration.
There was a lot of "goosing", poking your finger in another guy's butt, but not into his ass hole.
That took place even while fully clothed.
If there was any oral activity, it was minimal, and probably among the older boys, if at all.
Terry's list remains a standard reference of very typical activity, and I must say, I did them all. (except oral).
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William to Susan and Sam
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Date Posted: 03:11:08 11/23/20 Mon

I never saw oral sex in camp, but were attempts of "butt sex"
more joke than really. The same in home, during sleepover, we had joking attempts of "butt sex" but now really.
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Susan to William
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Date Posted: 03:41:27 11/23/20 Mon

You guys are tired of my questions, but I'm inclined to understand a lot more than before.
William, are you saying that during sleepovers, not at camp, but at home, would sometimes include sexual touching and things like masturbation?
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Sam
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Date Posted: 04:44:51 11/23/20 Mon

Yes, it did happen during sleepovers, especially if we slept in the same bed or when we were alone in our room. But only touching and masturbation.
I think this is normal for boys before teens.
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Susan to all
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Date Posted: 04:54:11 11/23/20 Mon

Thank you guys and gals, all.
I have learned a lot.
My sons are grown and have wonderful families.
I am blessed with wonderful grandchildren.
I hope they all are successful and care for their children
as I have cared for them.
Donna
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Sam to Susan/Donna
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Date Posted: 05:13:17 11/23/20 Mon

Are you saying that you raised up boys and never caught them doing it?
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William to Susan
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Date Posted: 04:09:29 11/23/20 Mon

My best friend and me had sleepovers in our home often enough till HS graduation. Our parents were friends and we were best friends too. Age 14-16 was time our growing and time for some experiments. Of course, parents didn't think about it and we were "little boys" for them still. We liked took shower before sleeping together and parents permitted it without problems. We played one with other, masturbated together and washed bottoms one another with joke protests when soap finger (nothing penis) went into "hole". We liked to share bed, although, each had own, and it was big pleasure for us.
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Susan to William
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Date Posted: 04:16:13 11/23/20 Mon

Thank you William
You said you masturbated together.
Did that include completion with orgasm and ejaculation, or just touching and feeling each others penis?
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William to Susan
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Date Posted: 13:32:03 11/23/20 Mon

Yes, it happened and for us it was normal then
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Christina
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Date Posted: 17:32:07 11/23/20 Mon

Did your sleep naked when share bed with your friend?
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Theodore to Christina
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Date Posted: 17:45:06 11/23/20 Mon

I don't know about William, but when I had sleep overs buddies, we usually wore just underpants to bed.
We would usually start by feeling each other's penis through the underpants, then pulling them down.
Then masturbate each other until we cum.
That was 8th grade, we were 13 - 14.
Did it a lot.
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William to Christine
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Date Posted: 19:03:20 11/23/20 Mon

For parents we were in PJs but soon after mom's "good night, boys" and behind close door we took off them almost always. Be naked in the shared bed was very pleasant and we played together (sometimes till ejaculation). After plays we slept usual in "spoon position" but it was innocent always (never anal penetration by penis)
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Theodore
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Date Posted: 21:52:38 11/23/20 Mon

There was a standard joke in the showers at camp about if you dropped your soap in the showers with other guys, don't bend over to pick it up, or some guy would stick his boner in your ass.
I was careful, that if I dropped my soap, I simply squatted straight down to pick it up.
Anybody else ever hear that wives tale?
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Anna
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Date Posted: 22:06:45 11/23/20 Mon

I have enjoyed reading these reports.
There are several references to "Terry's List", but I don't know what that list includes.
Can anybody help me with that.
Thanks
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Todd
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Date Posted: 19:34:33 11/24/20 Tue

I have read most of these recollections about boys atsummer camp, and want to add my thoughts.
I went to a very good boys summer camp for three seasons, ages 11, 12 and 13.
All of the after-hours events reported by the previous posters are true.
They don't mention the days full of great activities like swimming (in swimsuits), field games, target shooting, canoe skills, good food and caring staff.
But, after the campfires and the "counselor minute", before they left us alone, things got really intense.
I can remember the first time, sitting on my cot, watching other boys casually walking around, not just naked, but physically aroused, and touching each other.
The surge of sexual excitement was too much to suppress,
and I willingly joined in.
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Henry
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Date Posted: 20:34:45 11/25/20 Wed

It was the summer that I had just turned 16 and was the first week of summer. I loved summer, the warm weather, later nights, freedom from school; a time to hang with friends, stay up late and do almost anything you wanted. That summer I was a camp counselor at an overnight camp up in the country. It was great, I was getting paid to pretty much spend time outside and having a blast.

I shared a cabin with Willie, who was also 16, but he was two weeks older than I was. I only knew that because he was talking about just getting his driver's license. Anyway, I only knew Willie through camp, we both had been going to this camp since we were 7 years old. This year, we were both camp counselors. I loved having a cabin almost to myself, instead of being forced to share a cabin with 10 other people, like when you're a “camper”.

It was a Saturday morning at the camp, I remember that it was saturday because it was the only day of the week everyone could sleep in an extra hour. However, when Willie was fixing the alarm the night before he made a mistake and let’s just say our alarms didn’t go off. Which sucked, since the Counselors were supposed to be the first ones up to get the campers ready for the day and provide supervision.

We were awaken by Mrs. Keyes, who was the camp director. She was a lady in her late 20’s. Mrs. Keyes slammed medal rod against our bed posts to wake us up in utter panic and shock. Willie and I instantly knew we were in a lot of trouble. Mrs. Keyes looked furious. Steam was practically blowing out of her ears. She ordered us out of our beds (we had bunk beds). There was one problem though. Due to the heat and humidity we both decided to sleep “O-Natural” and were butt naked under our sheets. I froze. I didn’t want to get out of bed naked in front of some woman I barely knew. Willie also froze and Mrs. Keyes patience was wearing thin.

She shouted a second time, repeating her order. Willie tried to explain the situation to her. Mrs. Keyes responded by going up to Willie, who had the bottom bunk, grabbed his ear, and pulled him out of bed. Willie let out a gasp in pain and was now standing, naked in front of her. Her gaze traveled north to me. I knew it was futile and stepped onto the ladder lowering myself to the ground level. Willie and I both cupped our privates with our hands.

After a few minutes exchanging awkward looks, she told us to put our hands behind our head. Once again, we did nothing and stood there frozen in time. She resorted to grabbing ears again, with her fingernails grinding our earlobe. We moved our hands towards our head area, not out of compliance, but rather to try and swat her hands away. She held on until both of our hands were locked behind our heads. To this point, it was the most embarrassed I’ve been. She looked us both over and I will never forget what she said as long as I live: “Looked like we have a shower (looking at Willie) and a little tiny grower (looking at me)”. I just looked down, not wanting to be there anymore, wishing summer was over and I was back in school. Wishing I could be anywhere but in that cabin.

I peaked at Willie, who actually was hung like a horse and he manscaped, shaving all the pubic hair away making it look bigger. It was actually even more embarrassing having him next to be, because it allowed her to make comparisons. After what seemed like an eternity of her comparing our packages, she told us to follow her. Instinctively we both reached down for our briefs on the floor of the cabin, but she stopped us and told us we would be walking butt naked. And yes, we were probably the only teenage boys who still wore briefs at the camp.

After a walk of shame, she eventually led us to the camp meeting area, where all the campers had gathered for the morning meeting. It was dehumanizing. Being led down to center stage in front of campers and counselors alike. Eyes fixated on two naked males. I had never been spanked before in my life, but Mrs. Keyes decided to use Willie and I as a paradigm for what happens when you fail at performing duties. All the campers would learn the lesson. At this camp, you better behave, or else. Mrs. Keyes took control that day. Every person at the camp knew it.

Willie and I stood side-by-side on the stage, butts facing the crowd (Thank-god). She walked up to the Willies side. I have to admit that I actually watched, I didn’t want to (more for the fact I wanted to give him privacy and not stare at that region) but I did. With her right hand she wielded the paddle and her left hand she gripped his penis (teasing it as she spanked), repeating the process with me until we had cherry-red asses and erections. She then had us turn around, facing watchers, in front of both boys and girls. Our faces were as red as our behinds. I could have died from embarrassment that day. That day marked a new regime at Camp Lincoln.
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Steven
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Date Posted: 20:10:31 11/26/20 Thu

I was in church Summer camps since my 12 till 15. If we violated camp rules, we were spanked but in privacy only - in counselors' cabin. However, if a few boys got spanking - all got together. About "boys' plays" almost all was true



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