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Subject: Re: Stop encouraging the idiot!


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Date Posted: 08:36:35 01/09/20 Thu
In reply to: Maria Sanchez 's message, "Re: Stop encouraging the idiot!" on 07:58:56 01/09/20 Thu

I have a cousin who works with UNICEF and the United Nations. She says the countries in South America are some of the most impoverished in the world.
She told me the worst she ever saw was in Rio where 35 to 40% of the citizens are poverty level or worse.
They take their children along to break the ice with local children and her daughter was totally delighted to see nude boys playing in the streets.
When her daughter got to interact with totally nude boys she was out of control as initially some of the boys grew erections! After 10/15 minutes they went flaccid but for the first few minutes they were excited/embarrassed about it.
She said the little girls were totally excited by this while the little boys stood there with egg on their face as the young local girls were always dressed. Many young girls had beautiful dresses but the boys were totally nude and totally exposed!
They spent about a month there and the girls got to see nude boys almost every day. She said the boys were up to 10 years old and totally nude! It seemed that in every shanty town they visited the boys played in the nude and would erect at first when meeting the new children from UNICEF!

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Willy to Avatar
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Date Posted: 20:43:40 01/09/20 Thu

Avatar a very enjoyable and educational trip for your cousin's daughter than.Did any of the UNICEF workers have sons,how did they react to the nude boys do you know.


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Date Posted: 10:52:40 01/10/20 Fri

She did mention that the boys brought along were embarrassed and jealous that the girls got to see so many penises.
Sadly for the boys she said the girls saw nude boys at almost every location they stopped at! The boys could only look on as the girls got to educate themselves on male genitalia.
She said the girls would really get excited seeing the boys when they ereccted but the boys just stood there sheepishly watching the girls look on. It had to be terribly shameful and embarrassing for them seeing that all going on!
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Willy
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Date Posted: 18:11:54 01/10/20 Fri

Avatar how did your cousin feel about her daughter seeing all these nude boys.How old was see by the way.
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Avarar
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Date Posted: 18:59:52 01/10/20 Fri

Shana was 9 years old and very, very interested in boy nudity. Darleen said she took to seeing the boys nude like a duck to water!
The difficult part was all the questions about penises, erections, foreskins and ball sacks. That was unexpected and very difficult for my cousin to react to.
It took a few times of seeing the boys nude before she could calm down and not make a big deal over!
I guess that is to be expected of a 9 year old girl getting to witness complete male nudity!
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Willy
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Date Posted: 19:21:37 01/10/20 Fri

Avatar yes all very exciting for a 9 year old girl she was bound to ask questions.Did Darleen know before hand that there would be nude boys.How did she feel about these boys being nude and her daughter seeing nude boys.
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Date Posted: 19:48:08 01/10/20 Fri

Willy,
Sorry I forgot to address that part of your post. Darleen did not expect the boy nudity and was shocked the first community they arived at. She said the girls saw that the boys were nude and got crazy now knowing what nude boys looked line.
She said that it changed her and her daughter as once she knew that all boys had pretty much the same thing the innocence was taken away.
Questioning about erections and foreskins were always being asked. She said it was like she grew up all in about a month.
Darleen had some photos of the nude boys and somehow all have been "lost"! There is little doubt that those are hidden somewhere in her daughters bedroom and looked over every once in a while. I should know, I did the same thing when I was her age looking at cousins photos under the sprinklers and nude at the lake!
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Willy
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Date Posted: 20:51:05 01/10/20 Fri

Avatar did you see your cousin's nude in the flesh or just in photos.Im I right in thinking that Darleen saw nude boys growing up to.As I have mentioned in previous posts I swam nude at home growing up as did my brother and male cousins while my sister's and girl cousins and their friends wore 1 piece swimsuits.We boys swam nude from young so we were use to it and accepted being nude.For me swimming nude was a boy thing modesty was a girl thing.The girls were expected to behave in appropriate manner so there was no teasing or comments from the girls.But they definitely enjoyed our nudity and although I was a bit embarrassed from time to time specially when one of the girls had a friend there I still accepted being nude and felt it was fair and appropriate for the girls to wear swimsuits.
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Joseph
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Date Posted: 19:32:05 01/10/20 Fri

I have to feel sorry for the boys who were there and had to see the other nude boys as the girls got to see all they had, especially if they erected! That would have been so embarrassing to share that part with the girls. It would give the girls such an advantage getting to know all about the boys penises.
Those boys had no secrets from the girls they were staying with and you know there was teasing involved about knowing what the boys looked like all nude! At that age your genitals are supposed to be private, but having all the girls looking at and seeing those boys erect would be so humbling!
I remember that feeling when my cousin swam nude and my sister and girl cousins got to see all the boys swimming with boners and their foreskins covering the tips and all that. I was totally humiliated that it was right there for them to see. And worst of all, there was nothing that could be done to change it, they saw it and knew exactly what I looked like nude, just like the boys swimming.
Of course the girls let us know all they got to see and teased us about how funny the boys looked sticking straight up like that. It was very embarrassing knowing they could see and make fun of what we had but we never got to see girls all nude like that! It really wasn't fair or fun at all!
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Date Posted: 20:09:51 01/10/20 Fri

Those girls had to be extreamly excited not only seeing those boys nude but getting to see different boys every time the left for another community!
Pair with that knowing that the boys they were with had to stand there as they looked at and saw so many boy secrets! There was no question that each girl there knew exactly what a penis looked like!
Imagine the excitement they were experiencing knowing they would again get to look at nude boys and see them growing erect. It had to be extreamly exciting!
As for the poor boys it must have felt like a death sentance going to another community where yet again the girls would get to look at even more penises and watch as they too erected day after day!
You know it had to be so embarrassing to just have to watch as the girls experienced so much sexual excitement. They were actually permitted to look at and enjoy seeing the boys penises the entire time they were there!
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Date Posted: 20:34:07 01/10/20 Fri

You are right that the girl was excited. She was allowed to look at boys with their genitals exposed for extended periods of time. It wasn't a glance, as it sounded like they stayed there for a while and interacted with the nude boys!
It had to be the best time of their lives! They could look at the boys parts for hours at a time! Even getting to stare at the boys bodies for as long as they wanted!
If I was a boy there I too would have to erect knowing all those girls were getting to see nude boys like me and see their penises showing! I agree with Benji!
That would have been hard to deal with as I would have hated to be there and watch the girls look at penises. It might have been wonderful and exciting for the girls but that had to be utter Hell for those boys having to be there and seeing the girls look at penis after penis, day after day!
Just knowing that tomorrow they would have to see the girls watching as the nude boys erected then watch as their erections subsided leaving the boy totally exposed for girls they were with to enjoy the boys nudity. What a humiliating thing to go thru every day for about a month. That had to be torture!

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Date Posted: 22:08:35 01/10/20 Fri

This is not unusual at all. There are several church organizations that do charity work in these poor countries by running shelters for street kids.
There is one in my area that is always asking for volunteers to go help in these shelters and I know several girls and women who are members of this church who go every year. Some of them take their kids with them since they have separate living areas for the volunteers next to the shelters.
I once talked to one of these women who had a young daughter of about 11 who frequently went to help in these shelters during the Summer holidays.
She told me that the first thing they did when they picked up these street kids, who were mostly boys between age 9 and 13, the first thing they did was to make the boys take off all their dirty clothes and rags and give them a good bath.
Then they gave them some basic clean clothes while they lived at the shelter.
Since these shelters are mostly in hot third world countries like South America, Africa and some Asian countries they also give them a daily hose down in the shelter yard all together with the boys completely naked.
There is a stream nearby where she usually volunteers where they take the boys to swim, usually naked.
When I asked her if she also takes her daughter with her she said yes, especially when they took the boys to swim so she can also have some swimming fun. There are also other couples and women who take their kids with them during these volunteer spells and do the same.

One may ask why almost all these street kids are boys, it is because girls are usually kept at home to help in the house work while they don't care about the boys because they cannot support them or even feed them.
Also young girls do not last long on the streets because it is a tough life and they usually end up either being raped or go into prostitution. It is a tragic situation, mainly due to the ignorance of having large families when they don't even have enough to feed themselves. This is the main cause of world poverty in which children suffer most. Overpopulation is the biggest problem in the world today, but no one seems to be addressing this or even mention it.

In any case these charity organizations also have separate shelters for girls.
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Date Posted: 23:09:31 01/10/20 Fri

I went with my church to one of these missionary projects with my mom one summer. As you said they drive a van thru the inter city and pick up young boys to feed, clothe and give them a week off the street.
We also stripped the boys nude then gave them a bath with total hands on cleaning including washing their genitalia. I was 11 and got to bath many of these boys where I was shown how to retract their foreskins and wash them thoroughly. Some of these boys were older than I was and reacted sexually to my handling their penises. Some were very embarrassed while others were eager to have me touch them as they erected while I washed their private parts!
I found that I could stretch out the older boys baths and enjoy touching them as much as they enjoyed being touched. We spent 2 month in Panama and I spent the entire time giving the induction bath and the morning wash down with a hose. Many boys left after the first night but the other boys stayed the whole 6 days allowing me to get plenty of time looking at their penises. I became very good at washing the boys and getting to touch them for as long as I wished. It was quite the education for me experiencing the male form and understanding a lot about penises!
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Date Posted: 14:26:11 01/11/20 Sat

What a marvelous cover for pedophiles these church organizations were! Trolling for boys in their church bus offering the street boys free food and clothing for a week. I am sure no mention was made in their pitch of their forthcoming forced public nudity as the price for these free services.

Once recruited, then command the boys to strip publically and announce they will be bathed by women and girls. Don’t supply wash cloths and give the females free reign to bath the boys bare handed and spend as much time as they like on their private parts. Then in days following gather the boys in a court yard, command then to strip and hose them down every day in front of delighted female onlookers.

What a gift of power and sexual excitement for the female charity workers!

Just cannot help but to imagine if the genders were reversed. What would people think of these charities then? Would they seem like righteous helping charities or perversion machines giving men and boys ready access to impoverished girls’ bodies?

The killer is this process was so unnecessary. If the charities were indeed honorable, they would have built a locker room and give each boy soap, shampoo and a clean set of clothes, then released the boys to the boys only locker room to bathe themselves. But that would have removed the fun for the females. They would then only be giving and not receiving. So they did it this way because it was great pleasure for them and they had the power to do so. Despicable “charity” organizations in my book. I imagine they would also be in many of your books too if the genders were reversed.
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Date Posted: 14:56:51 01/11/20 Sat

John, I'm not sure why you are so upset? We used washcloths, just not all the time!
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John to Marti and Barry (Mad)
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Date Posted: 15:41:59 01/11/20 Sat

So you both would be okay if the genders were reversed? That men and boys were stripping and washing the girls, with or without wash cloths? And giving them no privacy? That seem okay with you both?
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Date Posted: 16:43:27 01/11/20 Sat

I wonder if it ever occurs to females to teach boys how to properly bathe themselves? Because that is generally the excuse about taking away their privacy. Boys don’t know how to bathe themselves so require help.

This charity situation is noteworthy in this regard because they are supplying temporary “help”. In the weeks, months and years to come, the charity won’t be around to provide this service. So if they truly want to help the boys, they would educate them on how to properly bathe themselves, not do it for them. And they could do this verbally and maybe with visual aids (not a living boy but perhaps with a manican for example).

While this would require some effort, in the end it would be less labor intensive for them as they could train via a classroom setting by teaching many boys at one time. Then when street boys were on their own, they would be self sufficient.

But females don’t do this either for charity or at home. I think the reason they don’t is obvious. No pleasure in teaching. It is not because the boys cannot learn.
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Date Posted: 17:21:35 01/11/20 Sat

John, women and older girls bathing boys is accepted in every society, including ours.
But I don't know of any society or country in the world where it is acceptable for men and boys to bathe girls.
So your big 'if' is irrelevant in such cases.
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Date Posted: 18:12:03 01/11/20 Sat

Because it’s accepted doesn’t make it right. Why not do it to girls too? I imagine because it is wrong to embarrass and humiliate them. I agree - that would be wrong. So why do you think it is right to do to boys?

And this hosing down policy is exceptionally cruel without purpose. No one like to be doused with cold water from a hose. Yet these charity organizations forced all boys under their care to strip naked every day, assemble as a group in a courtyard and be hosed down. Why? Would they get so dirty after being scrubbed clean that they needed to be hosed down? And why could they not rinse their bodies under a warm shower in privacy? Instead of being hosed down in a courtyard like a farm animal?

I imagine if a boy objected, he would not be fed and evicted from your “care”. Why? Because you would not want rebellion. If he refused but was allowed to stay and eat, others would likely refuse to be hosed down too. So your charity forced daily humiliation on these boys or they could starve as far as you were concerned.

The message to the boys seems clear: Trade your daily humiliation for food and a safe place to stay. Some charity.
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Date Posted: 15:03:06 01/11/20 Sat

John, I think you are being unfair and putting these volunteer helpers in a negative way.
They make great sacrifices to spend time helping these street kids. These shelters are usually just small places with just basic amneties in these poor areas which they build and keep at their own expense, including the food and clothing for these deprived kids.
They can't trust these kids who have been living on the streets with ragged clothes without taking a bath for weeks or months to wash themselves proper and so need a good scrub down.

I also disagree with you that this is abuse in any way or that any abuse takes place in these shelters, in fact these charity volunteers keep these children safe from abuse and deprivation on the streets.
You must really get to know the conditions that these people live in these poor countries where their corrupt governments don't even care what happens to these kids, even if they die on the streets.
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Willy
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Date Posted: 18:11:23 01/11/20 Sat

Barry I think you are on the money unfortunately mad John's posts are just getting stupid he clearly needs to get a grip.
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John to Marti (Mad)
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Date Posted: 16:45:05 01/12/20 Sun

I just wanted to drop you a note to clarify that I don’t blame you for your participation in this process. You were eleven and doing what you were directed to do. This practice, which was clearly abuse in my mind, was set up my the organizers.

But something struck me about your comments. You said that some boys left after the first day and you seemed somewhat surprised by this. I think it is perfectly understandable.

After they were recruited and maybe surprised that they were not allowed to have a normal private shower but instead were made to strip publically and be bathed by others, they could have felt betrayed. Then when they learned that the cost of their free room and board was to be humiliated each day by a very unpleasant hosing down with cold water while naked in front of all charity workers or females visiting the charity (and I imagine you had visitors arrive for this special daily event) then they decided the actual cost for their ‘free’ room and board was not worth it and they left after one day.

Once again, as a girl, this was not on you. But I wonder all these years later if you have any empathy for the boys faced with this delima: Eat or be humiliated? And if you were in their position, how you would have felt and reacted?

Something to consider and hopefully learn from.


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