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Subject: Re: Valid reasons for double standard


Author:
Willy to Observer&Co
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Date Posted: 21:07:31 04/24/20 Fri
In reply to: Observer to Mirage and John 's message, "Re: Valid reasons for double standard" on 11:55:07 04/24/20 Fri

Observer you are 100% correct spelvins post was rather silly and while Mad and Mirage can crap on about equally all they what the fact is Males and Females are different we experience the world differently.Women and girls are the ones who get raped,sexually harassed cat called etc yes some boys get abused but it's men doing all this bad shit.A bit of logic says girls would see and experience being nude in front of men&boys quite differently than boys being nude in front of females and again logic says society would see it differently to.

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Author:
spelvin
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Date Posted: 01:37:05 04/25/20 Sat

Willy, I have always appreciated your posts,
and Observer, I have appreciated yours.
But whether I'm right or wrong,
I hope you realize that denouncing another person's opinions as "silly" or "ridiculous" is no way to win friends and influence people.
I try to treat other people on this forum with respect,
so I think I am entitled to respect in return.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Valid reasons for double standard


Author:
Manuel
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Date Posted: 14:56:29 04/25/20 Sat

I am siding with Spelvin on his posts.

there is something missing in these posts. i wish i knew how to express them. and i know this. that you can't please everybody. you can't make everybody happy.

but what you can do - is make everybody mad. HAHAHAHA!

you posters that disagree with Spelvin, there seems to be no room for forgiveness. you're so busy trying to prove equality with men and women, I will show you mine if you show me yours.

its not about you. it's not about her.

maybe we should consider about having eaten the fruit from that tree we were not supposed to have eaten from, the forbidden fruit. also what is being missed is the end result. what happens after you have eaten that fruit.

you and I are going to have to answer for every decision we have made, every action we have taken, every thought we have ever had. you alone will stand on that Judgment Day.

none of you is a qualified lawyer to stand before this particular Judge. and the only way in to that Just Reward is through that one and only Qualified Lawyer.

at this particular time, its not going to matter whether a man is equal to a woman or a woman equal to a man. and you will have no say in who goes in or not go in to that just reward.

how could you possibly go in when there is no forgiveness in your heart.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Valid reasons for double standard


Author:
Willy to Spelvin
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Date Posted: 21:15:50 04/25/20 Sat

Spelvin I enjoy reading your posts to you put a lot of effort in to them but I won't apologize because I believe you are wrong.There's a lot of reasons why Scandinavian countries have less rape and teen pregnancies to.They are quite open and grown up about nudity and sex and they actually have sex education.The USA on the other hand in respect to sex and nudity are a bit like a 5 year old they have a lot of growing up to do.


[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Valid reasons for double standard


Author:
Mirage
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Date Posted: 02:49:14 04/25/20 Sat

A bit of logic says girls would see and experience being nude in front of men&boys quite differently than boys being nude in front of females and again logic says society would see it differently to.

A bit of logic would also reveal that what you mentioned is learned. No girl would feel weird being naked if she wasn't taught to be, and society wouldn't it differently unless they were taught to. It's not just logic, it's basic common sense.
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Author:
Willy to Mirage
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Date Posted: 21:44:02 04/25/20 Sat

Mirage I think you answered your question there.It isn't want you or I think its want society thinks rightly or wrongly.Male and Female nudity has always being viewed differently there was a time when boy nudity was considered appropriate but girl nudity for a number of reasons.We can argue over the rights and wrongs but that's the way society was.In today's world it's women who provide the nudity.On tv in movies nudity is very one sided breasts are common full frontal not so much.Penises are very rare regardless if for a sex scene or for no reason.The excuse given for this is society views breasts and penises differently not very equal or fair is it.
[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: You missed the point


Author:
Mirage
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Date Posted: 23:41:35 04/25/20 Sat

I specifically mentioned society, not just the individual. To quote what I said "society wouldn't see it differently unless they were taught to. You mentioned Scandinavian societies in this post. This goes to my point. Americans learned to be the way they are, and Scandinavians unlearned it. The views and attitudes about nudity had by prude societies are not natural. Everyone is born naked, and despite what people believe, nudity of both genders didn't use to be an issue the farther back in time you go. It's only an issue when you introduce religion and power dynamics.


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